What do you faggots think of new Ubuntu?
Just as disgusting as ever.
>>62344634
Unity looked amazing, GNOME as it is right now is a turd.
>GNOME
>>62344634
If they can make gnome3 bearable to use, i'm all up in that bitch.
I've been using Unity for almost 7 years, and it's comfy as fuck.
I had a netbook when netbook edition came out with unity, and it was a complete game changer.
>>62344662
There's nothing wrong with the Gnome technology, just their default layout and set of extensions is ass. If canonical can make it feel like Unity, I'm going to love it.
>>62344634
Used it for a couple days before installing kde, it was fine but I'm not a fan of GNOME so I didn't really care for it
>>62344660
this
>>62344634
Looks similar to my "old" Xubuntu
>>62344634
Too resource heavy. i prefer peppermint
>>62344634
shit, i also don't get why this is recommended as the beginner distro, as a windows user myself linux mint is a lot more comfy for me
>>62344853
Because Mint is shit for a couple of reasons and Ubuntu was easy to use when it used the Unity DE
>he thinks a DE is the OS
>>62344634
They should have picked Budgie
Love it, though I wish they would update their icons or at least give other colours than just orange.
Looks good. I kinda hope they drop the orange soon. It got old.
>>62344634
>GNOME 2 got good
>GNOME 2 gets dropped, Ubuntu switches to Unity shit
>2017, Unity finally gets good
>Unity gets dropped, Ubuntu switches to GNOME 3 shit
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's getting there.
It'd be sweet if they can turn Unity into a gnome3 theme, I miss Unity on my BSD gear.
>>62344634
looks like mac os
>>62345301
>GNOME 2 got good
No. Fuck you. Gnome2 was never good.
You just got comfy with that old piece of shit and change is usually not comfy, that's why everyone thinks gnome 2 was good. It was missing lots n lots of features we have today
>>62345471
>It was missing lots n lots of features we have today
true
GNOME 2 is not "today" though
>>62345009
>Mint is shit for a couple of reasons
Such as?
seriously flawed
at the very least they should put the dock on the bottom
>>62344634
Why did they keep their dock?
it still looks fucking horrile with that color scheme.
Any serious self respecting linux fag would be using Mate or a tiling wm.
The ugliest thing about that screenshot is how the top panel is more transparent than the left one
>>62344634
>transparency without blur
>huge window titlebars
>no global menu
guess I'll go KDE then
KDE Plasma is the present and the future.
>>62345694
I wish it wasn't so buggy. I'd switch in a heartbeat
>>62344634
I think the dock and the panel should be tied together so they had the same color / opacity.
I think gnome needs a good launcher like KDE.
Otherwise fine.
>>62345711
Learn C++ and help fix things.
>>62344634
When will they ever drop that cringy black/orange default theme?
>>62344634
haven't used the beta yet, but I run gnome 3 which I riced myself to look and feel more like unity and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
>>62345711
Gnome is buggier.
>>62344634
Budgie or bust desu senpai
>>62344634
It needs more brown.
>>62345890
t. pajeet
not as good as xubuntu
>mfw no DE with proper support for hi-dpi displays
>>62346135
What kind of support do you need?
>>62346183
I should have been more specific.
>mfw no DE with proper support for hi-dpi displays other than plasma
plasma is a bugfest
>>62345615
That's retarded. Most people have widescreen and your idea just fucks you over even more on vertical space.
>>62345301
>unity finally gets good
in your dreams, compiz maybe got "stabler" but unity 7 had literally zero meaningful updates since 14.04, and was a shitty gtk2/3 + tons of qt for "unity next" preview monstrosity. Thats without touching the topics of keybindings, dash launcher and global menu which while a good concept had some problems.
>>62344634
Why do they insist on using that disgusting brown grey?
>>62346283
So don't use all of plasma.
I don't see why it has to be either or with you people.
You can use the plasma desktop without relying on plasma widgets.
You can also just use the scale option in xrandr.
>>62344634
gnome is the worst DE they could go with. they droppen unity, they had a fresh start and they went with a fucking gnome? they had plans for QT, why not use kde or that lxqt DE? why fucking gnome?
ew, why the fuck are they such a different color/transparency
>>62346830
>why not use kde
way too buggy
>lxqt
way too bare bones
>>62344634
I threw up a little
I personally think they should have merged Ubuntu MATE instead of Gnome.
>>62344634
I'm currently on Ubuntu Gnome, how they will manage the dist-upgrade ?
Does Ubuntu Gnome will close and they will update Ubuntu only, or does the both version will be merge and be updated to Ubuntu ?
>>62345584
Dumb name
>>62347433
https://ubuntugnome.org/blog/
>if you are using either Ubuntu 16.04 LTS or Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 LTS, you will be prompted to upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. For >normal release users, this upgrade should happen with the release of 17.10
>>62344634
So is this just gnome shell with add-ons to make it look like the old unity?
It had Firefox 50.x "Ubuntu version" or some shit when I installed Artful on a VM. Interface is shit as ever, they somehow managed to make GNOME even shittier. Would-not-install-on-metal/10.
>>62345763
Unfortunately people use their DE to code things, not use their DE to code their DE to code things. Otherwise there would be a good DE by now.
Open sores model doesn't work. You need a dedicated team working on something, not a million people making 1 line contributions
>>62344634
You forgot to enable the united gnome theme, anon, hence why it looks terrible.
>>62344634
shit like the previous one
>>62344634
>GNOME
Into the trash it goes.
I may come back to it if they manage to get the global menu back into it, until then I am sticking with KDE.
>>62345458
Except mac has the perfect GOAT global menu. Gnome has a global date and time activity bar. Seriously, who thought that was a good idea? An entire bar with nothing but the time on it?
Just switched to it from Fedora, fells comfy.
>>62345009
Unity is anything but easy for a new linux user, its confusing and its shit.
>>62348569
>easy for a new linux user
You mean it doesn't require as much terminal commands?
>>62344634
I hate how they try to put their own spin on everything. Vanilla gnome looks so much better.
Here's my ubuntu gnome 16.04.
Why do most linux distros use fuckhuge fonts by default? It makes it look like they're advertising it to elderly people.
>>62347490
There's very little difference between Unity and Gnome if you take 3 seconds to configure it properly. I use both and have zero preference over one or the other, they both do the same shit.
>>62350387
because its harder to notice shit font rendering with bigger fonts
Gnome is an abomination. They should have contributed to Plasma instead.
>>62350488
KDE is a bloated mess. gtk is better than proprietary QT anyway. enjoy paying royalties to the QT jews for using their toolkits.
>>62350520
KDE uses less memory than Gnome. Qt is free as in freedom you faggot.
>>62350355
Just fuck my vertical space up!
>>62344634
>/g/ in 2016
OMG UNITY A SHIT CANONICAL Y U ABANDON GNOME YOU RUINED UBUNTU
>/g/ in 2017
OMG GNOME A SHIT CANONICAL Y U ABANDON UNITY YOU RUINED UBUNTU
I learned a while ago to ignore whatever /g/ believes.
>>62350761
>/g/ is a hivemind
>>62344634
Puke ugly
>>62350605
it's free as long as you don't make something you want to sell then it's time to pay up kiddo.
>>62350355
It looks like garbage compared to op picture.
pic related: I've selected the whole human and it said it was correct lmao.
>>62351031
You can sell free software brainlet.
>>62351142
hello 89iq newfag
https://www.qt.io/licensing-comparison/
Keeping an eye on it, I went back to Windows 3 years ago and it looks like Ubuntu may win me back again just like it did in 2007.
>>62345694
>>62348470
>>62348522
>A Global Menu Extension for GNOME Shell is in Development
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/global-menu-for-gnome-extension-development
>>62351178
That doesn't stop you from forking Qt and selling the software dumbass.
>>62351222
Gimme huggy, Taytay. <3
>>62344634
which version of ubuntu is this? is it stock?
>>62351299
Ubuntu is switching to GNOME Shell come 2018. That is the beta.
>>62347471
It's gonna be a bugfest.
How did you fuck up the theme so hard, anon? This is my 17.10 install.
>>62351313
i see. interesting. why did they switch? because wayland is coming too?
is the gnome version of ubuntu ultimately going to look like stock gnome? that looks a little different to me.
>>62351560
Thats what 17.10 is for, just hope they get their shit together for 18.04 thou
It doesnt look so bad tbqh, but will probably stay on 17.04 till next year
After Ubuntu 18.04 I will try Gnome 3 again. Canonical did a great job in Unity and having the support of a large community and big companies will do some good for Gnome.
>>62351942
gnome is already the default for RHEL and fedora, which have pretty big support behind it.
does gnome 3 still have a bunch of ugly gtk warning messages when you run applications from the command line?
>>62345132
/thread
Budgie will be my goto DE.
But there's one annoying thing about it.
>2 screens on top of eachother
>panel on top
>you just CAN'T drag a window from the lower screen across the panel to the upper screen
Hopefully they'll fix
>>62351961
Yeah, but Red Hat is trash
>ITT: People too dumb to install a unity 8 theme and enable dash to dock
>>62352020
Fedora is trash, you mean. RHEL/CentOS are great, seeing as they're actually stable and still use yum rather than DNFuckyou
>>62352023
This. Unity tweaks use Gnome shit, yet these dinguses are ranting about Unity being better than Gnome. It's almost the same thing, as are Budgie and Cinnamon.
>>62344634
I have no opinion as I use Xubuntu and thus don't use the default DE anyway.
>>62352101
i agree, a lot of these desktops are only slightly different from a user point of view. from a developer point of view, i don't know.
all this UI fragmentation has an effect on users though. macOS has a pretty consistent look & feel. windows users typically have no choice anyway.
>>62348569
>>62349153
KDE is the best desu
I really want to use Ubuntu, it looks comfy but I can't justify putting the future of my OS in the hands of Canonical.
They probably won't even be around next year, they're bleeding money even with the "donations" from Microsoft.
>>62344634
Shit
Just like old Ubuntu
>>62344634
Red Hat is cancer and gnome devs are retards. Canonical wouldn't be allowed to fix that pile of shit even if they were capable of that.
>>62351178
Did you even read it 69iq fag? You pay for being able to redistribute it in proprietary form and for having support.
If you pick the gpl license it's free software. Payed or gratis.
It'll probably break on it's own because it's Ubuntu.
>>62346830
unity is gnome what you talkin bout
>>62350355
/thread
>>62345694
>transparency without blur
Just put b/w borders on fonts and it will be fine. Some compositor can do it though.
>>62350355
>>62350355
they should have just changed the blue accent to ubuntu orange. I did it myself on the default gtk and shell themes and it looks good while being consistent. Not this ugly ambiance mess they have now.
>>62344634
Okay. They're making GNOME a little less retarded and trying their best to upstream some common sense.
I don't like the Ubuntu base, Debian, so I'd never use it anyway.
>>62351031
>it's free as long as you don't make something you want to sell
It's under the LGPL you humongous faggot. You can just dynamically link it.
>>62344634
Literally, the same thing over and fucking over
>>62352723
Read the quote chain, retard
>>62345862
>>62345132
>>62352003
>tfw Budgie will be inevitability abandoned someday
What the fuck is the difference between Gnome and Unity anyway? Unity has little dots on the dock icons for running applications? The menu taking over the top taskbar? Explain like I'm fucking five years old
>>62344634
>the absolute state of the linux desktop
At least it's free though, right?
>>62344660
I love unity, and I'm currently using Ubuntu, 16.04. I dread the day where the support runs out and I'm forced to upgrade.
Hopefully by then someone will have forked it and continued support, or I might have to.
gnomefags in denial
>>62351711
This actually looks pretty ok.
What did OP do? Is that an old development version?
>>62356618
>>62344634
noobuntu
>>62344660
>>62357824
Same boat as you friends.
>>62357824
Even if someone forks it the support will never be as good as Canonicals.
Still, I'm sure they'll do some magic with GNOME to make it less gay
>>62344634
It's great. Thank you for asking, bud!
>>62344634
Just like my gnome3!
>>62344634
I still don't get why Linux setups have two bars. There's not any more information being conveyed for all that space being taken up.
WHEN ARE THEY FINALLY GOING TO GET RID OF THAT NASTY HEADER BAR FOR FIREFOX ON GNOME REEE
>>62345155
Check out Numix icons. Aesthetic af. And it looks great with Unity.
>>62344634
why don't they just hire the elementary os team instead?
>>62365823
There's actually a working prototype of CSD for Firefox already. I haven't checked it lately but AFAIK it could be released to Nightly this year
>>62362936
As long as the forked unity works the same as current unity and has a decent sized community and helpful devs, I'll be happy
How do you play games when using Linux?
>>62366421
wine+steam
>>62366421
cd game/
wine game.exe
preferably in a dummy user account
>>62365823
press F11
>>62345471
Where's my drawer widget, fgt
>>62344634
>>62344660
>>62344781
>having 2 taskbars
absolutely disgusting
Plasma (KDE Neon) is where is at, the integration of the menubar in the titlebar is god tier. I'm never going back to Gnome and the GTK fiasco again.
>>62367488
How?
>>62344634
Same as the old Ubuntu.
Mint is the superior buntu.
>>62367488
I would use it if it was horizontal.
>>62367488
I've been using KDE Neon for about a month and my experience has been almost perfect. The only problem I've had was caused by an update last week. After that update my system drops to 15 FPS or less whenever I use the hand tool on okular but only on any other application everything runs fine. There are days that this doesn't happen, but the next day it comes back and I don't know how to fix that problem. I'm considering changing distro but I wouldn't know where to go from there. May I'll just go back to Windows
>>62367631
Menubar can either go to a menubar panel (like unity and Mac OS) or go into a button in the titlebar of the application, it really helps with vertical space savings
>>62367697
Agreed, horizontal would be better but that doesn't keep me from using it.
>>62367723
Use Qpdfview, Okular seems like a little overblown for a PDF viewer.
>>62367675
Mint is autistic
>>62347464
Good one. That absolutely sounds like a real problem.
>>62344634
>dock and sidebar
>>62367488
>kde
1 compositing / panel doesnt update when disable/enable
2 compositing flashing black screen graphical glitch during compositing enable disable after program launch(default settings uncheck allow applications to block compositing fixes it)
3 mouse scroll causes garbled text in the main menu and other system settings place
4 really inconsistant mouse scroll rates, painfully slow in menus, very fast in dolphin, etc
5 when hovering over many icons (pinned panel programs, files on desktop) tooltip causes very bad lag / choppy fps (depends on theme, some better than others, breeze is one of the worst for it)
6 glitched text in Ark until you resize, also happens in Open File dialog prompts, only happens when Preview is selected, fixes when mouse hovers over any item. Happens every time.
7 wallpaper settings sometimes doesnt display correct preview, displays wrong wallpaper than what is chosen
8 if you install too many themes/window decorations the default Breeze theme gets overwritten by a randomly installed one? (Removing all themes sort of manages to pull Breeze default back though)
9 firefox turns white screen with loading bar if compositing enables or disables at any time (game launch, opengl program) have to restart firefox to fix (fixed in Nightly)
10 Themes dont uninstall properly. After you click remove, it still shows 'Uninstall' in 'Get new themes'
11 sometimes audio will completely bug out and be totally distorted/garbled until you move the slider up & down a bunch of times.
12 switching default audio to HDMI from the panel menu causes audio to glitch out until you switch back & forth and move the volume up and down, gradually fixing it
13 Poor OpenGL Compositor settings. XRender resizes windows, moves windows, much smoother than the OpenGl renderers
https://webmshare.com/EBNPa
http://webm.land/w/xTtr