/tpg/ Thinkpad General

Is 77 degrees celsius a normal temperature for an X220 under ~90% load? I re-pasted the CPU.

Anyone here have the w530?

Is it really too heavy?

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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

>>62341209
Are these good or just a meme

And where do you get one single one?

I won't need a pack of 10 or whatever

Any games run on x60?

What's the recommended battery charge threshold?

T440s master race COMING THROUGH.

>>62341256
>T440s
>not T440p
Fake news!

>>62341246
Most everything made until 2010 will run if you turn the settings down a bit.

>>62341256
>ulv piece of shit
lmao

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Daily reminder if you use ANYTHING post X61, T61: YOU ARE NOT USING A THINKPAD

>>62341203
Yes, it's normal. They're made to work under in 100º C.

>>62341204
I own the T420 and I think it's the heaviest thing ever. Still, I'm never satisfied with laptop weights, but mind that the W5x0 is way bigger.

>>62341246
Emulators should run OK.

>>62341247
My laptops are always 95~98% stop. My last battery is running with TLP at 95% and has little no no battery degradation.

Even with the core 2 duo?

Is the core 2 duo as bad as people think?

>>62341204
No laptop under 10 pounds is too heavy for daily carry

>>62341183
best os for x60 and is there anyway to speed it up a bit?

>>62341281
... running for 7 months with TLP...*

Fixed.

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>>62341265
>>62341268

Is that what you say when you're trying to pick up a fat chick at a bar?

>>62341221
They're good for mouse movement when typing, word editing and making fine adjustments
You usually can't order just 1, its kinda dumb considering its a plastic nub worth .0001 cents
Might as well grab 10 for 2 bucks and have spares

>>62341221

They feel pretty good and precise.

>>62341247

80% to 95% depending on how much power you need on the go.

>>62341203

Absolutely, mine hits around 85c under 90% load.

>>62341282

C2D is perfectly fine for web browsing and light gaming i.e source games.

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So when did Briggs, Cole, and Cooper talk about Judy? I don't remember them really having an opportunity to do that in the original series.

>>62341300
Oh boy 3 AM time to shitpost!

>>62341305
Thanks. Where did you order yours?

>>62341313
wrong tpg pal

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>>62341278
Why aren't you anons using an X40?

>no hardware backdoor
>super efficient processor
>best keyboard
>near-retina screen
>10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery)
>no homosex trackpad
>no need to install transexual boot shit
>gigabit ethernet
>tiny and sexy
>proper aspect ratio
>internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF)
>actual IBM logo
>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
>only $30 or so
>cute docking station and extended battery available
>*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision
Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?

Photogenic weekend pic included.

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Is it worth it^??

currently owning t420.
thinking about getting second laptop for tinfoil, paranoid, crypto stuff.
should i get x200 and libreboot it, or x220 w/ coreboot and ME remover? thoughts?

>>62341322
>disrespecting the T440s master race
>accusing me of shitposting

You really need to sort your shit out, Juan.

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>>62341345
you can't fully trust any of that

only solution is a pre-ME era Thinkpad

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>>62341326
Oh... so it is. You guys should really think about changing the initialism here.

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I bought a T420 off ebay and it has an HDD with it, it should be arriving Tuesday. Will I be able to put an SSD in it immediately or do I have to get an adaptor or something? All laptop drives are 2.5"but HDDs can be taller sometimes, right? I want to get an optical to HDD adaptor to swap out my DVD drive but I'm concerned the SSD won't fit in the main drive slot. I'd rather not have the SSD in the optical adaptor because occasionally I do want to use a DVD drive for things.

>>62341343
>1366x768

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>>62341183
>Retro Thinkpad will be garbage edition
We will read your moanings in 4 years when you can buy a cumstained one.

>>62341293
Debian with XFCE/i3/LXDE is AMAZING on low-specs computers. I was blown away the first time I installed it. Super solid OS.

>>62341369
It'll fit. It's better if you have those little thingys that raise the SSD, you know? Anyhow, they should be free in any computer shop.

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This actually caught my eye earlier. I might get this, what do y'all think?

>>62341387
it's even better if you remove systemd

sudo apt-get install sysvinit

sudo reboot

sudo apt-get remove systemd

sudo apt-get autoremove

sudo apt-mark pin systemd

This will remove it from your system and prevent it from installing again as a dependency.

>>62341278
Sorry, but I consider the X200/T400 to be the last of the ThinkPads. I have both X60s and X200

>>62341282
C2D is perfectly fine, I have a P8700 in my X200 and it will handle anything I throw at it

>>62341293
Best thing to speed up the X60 is an SSD, it will fly with one

>>62341336
Because you can't flash libreboot onto an X40

>>62341361
which exactly is pre ME era thinkpad? t60 and older?

>>62341403
>sudo apt-mark pin systemd
sudo apt-mark hold systemd

sorry

>>62341381

Lenovo will probably make it limited edition and only sell 25,000 of them. We already know it's based on the t470, presumably it's ULV.

>>62341400
not worth it at that price
why the fuck are x60's so expensive, is it due to libreboot?

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Is there no way to add a second hard drive to the X230 without a thirty dollar extension?

>>62341427
i tried to find decent x60 for fun, but couldnt find anything under 100

Why the FUCK is /g/ so autistic about libreboot?

>inb4 muh NSA
>inb4 muh jews
>inb4 muh freedums

>>62341404
>you can't flash libreboot onto an X40
Why would you want to? It has none of the shit libreboot claims to fix.

I don't trust that shit anyway.

>>62341406
Yeah look on Thinkwiki:

https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology_(AMT)

List is a bit old but anything newer than what's listed has it 100%

>>62341427
>why the fuck are x60's so expensive, is it due to libreboot?
They don't need libreboot, that's why they're expensive. They have no CIA nigger backdoors at all.

>>62341458
It's only two or three loose freetards.

>>62341406
Only Pentium stuff

>>62341440
Use the internal MSATA slot for boot/OS and install a 2TB+ HDD in the actual side bay. I've done that on my x230t and it's pretty comfy to have an entire emulator/media/Steam library on the other drive.

>>62341473
WRONG

>>62341447
I just got a mint condition one for £50 :3
...but it's tablet version and I can't get any of the touch shite version on linux

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What Thinkpad do you use as your daily driver and why?

>>62341464
according to this, x220 is can also be librebooted (in the near future?)

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>>62341495
X40, because I have a powerful desktop and want something super small and light, with a great keyboard.

>>62341488
elaborate?

Should I get the Ultra, Pro, or Basic dock?

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>>62341507
Intel didn't want anybody poking into the ME and removed support for their software, then deleted the site.

Shifty.

>>62341526
T60 and X60 are both free of it.

Seriously, why are the price of used macs so inflated? You can get a very decent ThinkPad for very low shekels on eBay with a bit of luck and patience but macs always sell at much higher prices than their actual worth.

People will literally pay 500+ shekels for a 4+ year old macbook air with shitty 1440x900 TN panel and 128GB of non upgradeable SSD.
A Thinkpad of the same age with the same initial cost would sell for 250 tops.

>>62341426
>presumably it's ULV
Why wouldn't a laptop be ULV?

>>62341556
OS X. It Just Werx unlike Linux sometimes, and BSD on a laptop can be a huge pain in the ass. It's the easiest way to get a Unix laptop and they're 'retro' now for millennials.

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>>62341481
Oh wow I didn't even know that was an option. Don't know how committed to this Thinkpad I am to drop another $160 on it though.

>>62341464
>Why would you want to? It has none of the shit libreboot claims to fix.
Bwhahahaha, the X40 might not have ME but there could still be back doors lurking in the proprietary BIOS. Can't audit the code, might as well enjoy your botnet faggot.

>I don't trust that shit anyway.
t. CIAnigger

>>62341495
T440p because of the fhd ips screen and being the last thinkpad with upgradeable processor.

>>62341588
>Bwhahahaha, the X40 might not have ME but there could still be back doors lurking in the proprietary BIOS. Can't audit the code, might as well enjoy your botnet faggot.
Extremely doubtful, I've been observing mine for more than a year and snort didn't pick up anything at all so far.

Anyway the secret computer spying laws didn't kick in until 5 years after the USA Patriot Act passed.

T430 with i5-3320M without a battery or hdd for $120, yay or nay?

who t510 here bb

>>62341495
I've been using a T420 since release and it's just been the perfect laptop for me, I have yet to feel the need to buy a new laptop. It's not too big, not too small, feels great, runs great. My T420 has held up perfectly despite over 6 years of use. I bought like bare minimum model back when I first bought it but I was a poor ass student and over the years I've upgraded it incrementally.

Mine currently has an i7-2620M, 16GB ram, 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD, 900p screen (Missed my chance to get the 1080p mod sadly). I've replaced the touchpad sticker once because in college I used to let people use my laptop all the time and it got worn out eventually because they're fucking plebeians with greasy Indian hands and don't know how to use the glorious nipple. Other than that, still pretty good shape.

Once I got my first SSD, my laptop is still super responsive and fast. What exactly do the new laptops offer anyway in performance? Unless you're gaming or shit like, I've never felt like my laptop was underpowered.

>>62341495
p51 full spec

Do all T420 models come with Nvidia graphics?

>>62341702
no but that's a downgrade on the t420 imo

>>62341622
>Anyway the secret computer spying laws didn't kick in until 5 years after the USA Patriot Act passed.
lmfao, you're naive if you actually believe they haven't been backdooring and tapping into all computer networks and hardware since the 1980's

>>62341670
You're not missing much without the 1080p mod. If I remember correctly it didn't work too well and had signal problems on the T420 so yours is pretty much as good as it gets.

>>62341721
Whys that senpai?

>>62341746
battery life I'm assuming?

>>62341730
I never said they weren't, but nice pilpul.

Hardware backdoors built into the computers consumers use were mandated by secret laws after 911.

>>62341746
>barely better than the integrated hd3000
>consumes extra power
>shares heatsink with the cpu increasing the average temps
>removes the option to upgrade to a quad core because of above reason

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>>62341670
>tfw your t420 only has an i5 and the shit 720p screen and you're too poor to upgrade

>>62341822
If we're being honest, the performance difference between the i5 mine came with and the i7 I eventually installed: Fucking nonexistent in day to day. The i5 is more than fine, the i7 isn't really worth it unless you're doing super CPU intensive stuff all the time because all it does is make your laptop run a little hotter for normal use. I only did it because it was a "Why not?" sort of thing.

1600x900 is totally worth it though, get on top of that.

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Just picked up a cup I thought was fucking empty but wasn't and I practically threw it on my StinkPad. I pulled the battery out as fast as I could and poured 100% isopropyl on it. Once it's evaporated it should be good to go or is there other stuff I should do?

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>>62341791
Doesn't switching from the default option ('Optimus') in the BIOS to 'Integrated' disable the NVS4200?

>>62341898
Indeed it does Shinobu but if you do that then it's pointless to pay an extra for the NVS that you aren't going to use.

>>62341867
Yeah but e-peen though.

>>62341898
the gpu is still on
just nothing can use it.

>>62341867
>The i5 is more than fine, the i7 isn't really worth it unless you're doing super CPU intensive stuff
There is no difference between the stock mobile dual core i5s and i7s, those i7s are just i5s with slightly higher clockspeeds.

The difference between the stock dual cores and upgrading to an aftermarket quad core is the real deal.

>>62341917
proofs?

>>62341968
both me and my friend have t430s
mine has the nvs 5400m, his is hd4000 only
we both have 8 gigs of ram and an 850 evo, but he gets about 2 hours better battery life than me with the same battery.

Is the Nvidia card on the t420 even worth it for gaming, seems like a shit gaming experience regardless.

>>62341982
ok but are you guys using the same battery? (his or yours)

>>62341984
If you're really going to game on it (you shouldn't), but if you are then yes, it is worth it. It's not very good but its a lot better than Intel's shit. Also integrated graphics sometimes have compatibility issues with games and Nvidia just doesn't because it's fucking Nvidia. I wouldn't do any serious gaming on it though.

>>62342003
>with the same battery.
and before you ask we left them just sitting idle doing nothing on a base install of windows with it set to not go to sleep

>>62341982
T430's have a lot worse power management when it comes to the Nvidia card than the T420 IIRC. I remember some people complaining about it back in the day. The difference between a T420 with and without it should be small.

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someone please sell me a cheap x61

>>62342045
t430 was a clusterfuck of a mess in general, what a piece of shit.

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just a reminder that i am still here.

>>62342124
>jojo-pc
That couldn't possibly be a...

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>>62342124
>4gb ram
>320gb hdd
>$500
but why

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>>62342113
Wasn't the T430 the first one with the new keyboards?

>>62342136
yeah noticed when bought.

>>62342151
as i said a few threads ago, i was desperate. The last 2640 non tablet was sold on ebay and all others were broken and or shit in some other way. Amazon only place online i could find with 2640. It is a soldered cpu after all so i would not consider getting a shit spec one with upgrade intentions. Its so old that you should get it with best hardware atleast the things you cant change. Obviously putting ssd and 16gb in it on arrival along with JAP keyboard.

>>62342157
As far as the T series is concerned, the T420s was the first one and the T430 followed up I think? The first one in general was the X1 I think.

my t420 finally came in. I'm really surprised how snappy this thing is for an i5 with a 5200 rpm drive.

I want more fast though. what's going to be faster, an mSATA ssd or a normal 2.5" ssd?

>>62342221
>what's going to be faster, an mSATA ssd or a normal 2.5" ssd?
msata is capped at sata2 speeds, 2.5" ssds can do sata3 speeds. However this is irrelevant in daily usage and only matters if you transfer big files between sata3 ssds or something that handles sequential sata3 speeds.

So it's more of a
>do you want to have the option to use 3 drives?
msata
>you don't give a shit?
2.5"

>>62342253
>msata is capped at sata2 speeds
I meant msata as in the t420 msata port not msata ssds in general of course.

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>>62341495
x220, because it's compact, light and runs kde like a champ which is basically all I need at the moment. I'll only replace it when I have the money to buy something new and a suitable reason to do so, and I have neither

>>62342188
>The last 2640 non tablet was sold on ebay and all others were broken and or shit in some other way
I think buying a broken one + new palmrest/lid/backplate/bezel and probably new mobo as well would've been cheaper than that.

>with JAP keyboard
but why

>>62341495
t420 because I got broken one for $5 missing a bunch of parts and brought it back to life and bought replacement parts for it and now have a damn good computer. I've spent like $100 total on it and it does everything I want.

>>62342253
>>62342279
thanks for that, I could really use the open drive so I'll be going with the m.sata.
I even bought this cd drive replacement that holds a hard drive so I could have two.

Will a x230 motherboard fit in an x220 chassis?

>>62342329
trust me i considered that, it was becoming retarded cost wise. Also shipping became a problem for cost and time on a bunch of individual parts so i went with one that is mostly what i want in good condition. It actually comes with 8gb, that says 4gb because it was the general details and not the specific sellers listing. Still got 16gb kit for fucking 90USD. Yes this is no longer the cheap thing its supposed to be. But hell i will still beat the thing as if it were a dollar.

>>62342363
idk but why, for the new cpu. Otherwise you will be stuck with shit keyboard on x220 and modding still gets you sketchy not full function old keyboard.

Is the T420s worse than the T420?

T430 9 cell is only getting over 5 hours juice is that normal?

>>62342413
Yes, you cant upgrade the cpu or have a 9 cell battery on a T420s.

What keys dont work on the w530 if i swap to a w520 keyboard?

>>62342502
but on the other hand it only comes in 1600x900, you can use an ultrabay battery and you have a fully working FHD IPS mod.

>>62342413
Depends on what you want. In my opinion: Yes.

The screen is worse, the battery life is a lot worse, it's harder to replace parts for it.

T420s has USB 3.0 though and it's 1lb lighter than the T420. The T420 is plenty light though.

Pick your poison.

>>62341336
I have, in my hands an X41 with a busted battery, if I were to replace the part what would I even boot this ancient thing into for use as a daily driver?

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>tfw just got finished upgrading my thinkpad with a bunch of shit
Why is this so fun?

>>62342594
what'd you do?

What's the upgrade path for the T440p?

I ordered a 1080p screen and the T450 trackpad

>>62342604
>4800qm-4810qm (because of better igpu clocks than the 4700mq) + dgpu heatsink
>9-cell battery
>m.2 ssd + hdd/ssd + hdd/ssd
>2x 8gb 2133mhz ddr3l sticks

>>62342600
Upgraded my CPU, got a new screen, put some new memory in it and swapped my disc drive for a hard drive. Feels like a new computer tbqh.

How come the T420 seems so much more popular than most models? Trying to get on on auction on Ebay is light fighting vultures, fuck.

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>>62341458
>tfw you'll never experience the true computational bliss of 100% free software, privacy, and freedom-- from the OS all the way down to the BIOS
why even live?

How do you gusy clean your Thinkpads without ruining the rubber coating?

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>>62342878
idc, literally no one pays for any software unless its for commercial environment use obviously like someone at an animation studio needs to use a legal copy of 3dsmax etc. If you need to go super sketchy mode, go ahead and use a vm and run some distro with full disk image encryption while making sure to have the vm actually stored on a cheap flash drive, never to touch any primary storage, and use tor with noscript, https everywhere, etc, and use a vpn and proxy chain then when done being sketchy, properly dispose of flash drive, break off emmc chip(s) from flash drive board and put into bag then hammer into literal dust then pour into sewer. easy. Also ideal to hover about a library with free wifi and use that network even if vpn and or proxy(s) are in use on your end. Also also likely to use a laptop you consider disposable, only have hdd in it and eventually when you think you will not be sketchy for awhile, remove the drive and fully dispose of it also, using similar to flash drive distruction method but putting large magnet on all platter(s) after opening the drive, then hammer to a powder, unless they are metal, in which case cut very fine into pieces with bolt cutters, use blow torch on them, hammer, magnet, then put into sewer. Also dont be a retard on the places you visit and take other online precautions to concealing identity, etc.

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>go to cs class
>see chinks and indians everywhere
>day ruined

>>62342878
still running proprietary microcode and firmware

>>62342993
Nope. Libreboot replaces the firmware.

>>62342926
windex does not have any solvents that can dissolve it, i use it on mine with no issues. Make sure you dont let it run into ports, lights, display, keyboard, etc.

>>62342978
please go back to pol

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noob question. So I bought my T420 yesterday and updated the BIOS to the latest version (v1.49)
can I still do custom bios splash screen?

>>62342549
I use Debian on my X40.

>>62343195

yes you retarded cuck read the file in the extracted bios folder

>>62343195
Yes, it's a feature of the original bioses.

Now channel your inner weeb and end up with something like this >>62340137

>>62341527
Ultra, if it's supported. UltraBay dock is the shit.

>>62343315
Why do you say that?

>>62343195
noober question, how to do custom image. have x220.

>>62343269
s-sry. i wont post here ever again ;_;

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>>62343325
post image and i'll make it flashable 4u

make sure it's the same aspect ratio of your memepad

After trying 3 different thinkpads I think I settled on the T430. It has great screen, battery (9 cell average 6-8 hours), not too heavy, SIDE SPEAKERS and light up keyboard.

>>62343355
just need to put it into the bios flash shit folder and make sure its screen size and 30kb or less.

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>>62343382
>T430
>It has great screen

>>62343355
**********************************************************************
* *
* NOTES ON CUSTOM START UP IMAGE *
* ------------------------------ *
* *
* THIS VERSION OF THE FLASH UPDATE PROGRAM GIVES THE OPTION OF *
* REPLACING (OR ELIMINATING) THE DEFAULT "LENOVO" IMAGE THAT IS *
* DISPLAYED DURING SYSTEM START UP. *
* *
* GUIDELINES FOR CUSTOM START UP IMAGE: *
* *
* 1. THE IMAGE FILE SIZE IS LIMITED TO 30KB. *
* 2. RESOLUTION OF THE IMAGE SHOULD BE LESS THAN 640X480. *
* 3. VALID FORMATS FOR THE IMAGE ARE AS FOLLOWS: *
* BITMAP (.BMP) FILE FORMAT *
* JPEG (.JPG) FILE FORMAT
* GIF (.GIF) FILE FORMAT
* *
* STEPS TO ENABLE CUSTOM START UP IMAGE: *
* *
* 1. PREPARE YOUR IMAGE AND COPY IT TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE *
* WINUPTP.EXE EXISTS. *
* 2. RENAME THE IMAGE AS FOLLOWS. *
* BITMAP FILE --> LOGO.BMP
* JPEG FILE --> LOGO.JPG *
* GIF FILE --> LOGO.GI
* 3. RUN WINUPTP.EXE AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. *
*
* AFTER YOU UPDATE THE BIOS ON YOUR SYSTEM, YOUR LOGO WILL *
* APPEAR ON THE STARTUP SCREEN.

>>62343401
Compared the the shit 720p screens I had on the other thinkpads yeh

>>62343323
I own one, it came with my X220. Juuuust a little biased.

>>62343382
>SIDE SPEAKERS
enjoy ur lint and dust collecting grilles

>>62343440
Oh yeah by resolution the 1600x900 screen is nice but the actual screen is shit-tier in colors and viewing angles, that's why the alienware mod is a thing.

>>62343427
what are the chances the bios chip is just some common emmc chip and you could replace it with higher capacity one, reflow and replace it, then be able to upload larger bios logo. bios flash software needs to be modified to allow larger too but still.

Can every thinkpad have a custom bios logo or is it just the older ones?

And do I have to redo it everytime the bios updates?

>>62343458
Lucky! What's cool about it?

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>>62341336
x40 master race reporting in

>>62341372
The Business resolution ;)

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>mfw I'm the only one with a thinkpad in my compsci class
Why did you use your financial aid to buy a fucking Macbook, Pajeet?

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Where can I get a FHD mod for x220/230?

>>62343553
In my class, there are a few thinkpads other than mine but most use like slim light HP laptops or chromebooks and shit like that. The girls in my class are exclusively on the apple cock though.

>>62343500
Extra USB slots, CD/DVD drive, extra VGA port, extra ethernet port, etc.

T430 last that can do coreboot that i know of

>>62343526
YES

What OS are you running on that baby?

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How does this combo look?

>>62343478
I will thank you. Couldn't hear shit on the bottom speakers of the other models.

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>>62343553
>tfw your engineering professor uses a thinkpad with linux on it and everybody asks why he uses such a shit laptop

>>62343721
scam tier shipping cost, otherwise fine.

>>62343740
Fucking kids these days with their fucking Surface Pros and Macbooks and super thin aluminum trashtops with no cooling.

>>62343721
probably should worry about getting an ssd, ram, trackpad, and extended battery (if current one is the small one and in bad condition) first, those would be my priorities anyways

>>62343721
>compatible
oh boy

>>62341278
>>62341336
>>62341361
>>62341400
>>62341515
>>62343526
>That screen ratio
Yuck

>>62341278
I respect your dedication but I'm 100% happy with my T420. You do you though.

>>62341183
Any thoughts on current Toshiba build quality?

Hey guys, I would buy a ThinkPad but they are too flashy for me. I want people to think I'm a nigger. Which Apple laptop would you guys look down upon me the most for having?

I'm bought a used x230 on eBay, everything seems great except for that 250GB HDD. Can I install the SSD then install a clean windows? will the device recognize the Windows 10 pro key?

I have a T61 with 3GB of ram and Win7 that runs like absolute dogshit. What should I do? Reinstall windows? I tired dual-booting Ubuntu and that doesn't work... it crashes every 10 minutes

>>62343914
SSD

>>62343334
t-tell me about bane. why does he wear a mask?

>>62343923

That's an option, but I paid $35 for the thing off Craigslist so I don't really wanna drop money on an SSD. Also, small problem I think the previous owner put a pirated copy of Win7 on there because when I check for the key in the registry it comes back as BBBB-BBB-BBBB-BBBB or something like that and the sticker on the bottom is a key for Windows Vista. I don't have the Win7 disc (Obviously), what's the best way of getting Windows back on there?

>>62343905
Your Windows key is under the battery. If it's a Pro key and you install Pro then it should work.

>>62343957
Do you even Thinkpad?

Dude, the Chinkpads are cheaper, and that's the deal. Putt a fuckin' SSD on it, 8GB of RAM and you'll have an awesome shitpost machine.

Also you could use the same SSD on another computer and throw than T61 away when you don't want it anymore.

>>62343957
4gb or bigger flash drive

iso links on right side
https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/

then use this tool to put iso onto flash drive
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool

then use daz loader to crack the key, downloaded only from mydigitallife forums, anywhere else is fake

and you really should get an SSD, you can always take it out and put it in another machine in the future

>>62344025

Thanks man!

>spill drink on thinkpad
>it still works
>only left it to try for three hours
Based.

wasn't there a special discount link in the OP before, is the promotion over now?

>>62341183
How do I flash the EC back to stock on a thinkpad x230t
Or ideally to no keyboard swap but removing the battery white list.

My 16 gig RAM X1 Carbon still gets laggy with desktop facebook on Firefox and Chrome. Is this laptop not as good as I thought it was?

>>62344415
Blame Intel

Is this the correct panel for the T420 IPS mod? What else do I need?

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>>62344938

>>62344544
Perhaps jewbook is ridiculously bloated and resource-heavy

I am gonna get a used x230 thinkpad, is there a screen mod for a ips screen? also can I take a 1080p screen on it.

>>62343914
What CPU? Get a 9300, it's miles better on the T61

>>62345185
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640

Maybe there is still time to get on this? He collected payment for preorders a week or two ago.

>>62341204
It's not the weight that's the problem. The reason I carry an X230 is because of the size and battery life. My "15 inch" laptop backpack just barely fits a W530. I don't need it very often so I prefer something smaller

Shame not even the dock has an expresscard slot. Thought I could get it somehow on the t440p

Is there any way I can add a CF Card reader in my W520?

The 32GB cards take over an hour to download from my camera.
I'd rather not use an external reader.

whats /g/'s experience with off-brand lenovo batteries?

>>62345701
good

>>62341360
>T440shomosexual
>masterrace
>Not T440p
Lmao@u

>>62345962
please don't bully the ULV CPUlets

i5-4300M or i7-4600U?

>>62345995
PGA 4300m then upgrade the cpu

So I had a problem with my t440p
the touchpad was constantly moving when I touched it without moving my finger. also, the screen flickered when playing resource intensive tasks. had a little heart attack there.
some chink charger was the cause of this nightmare.
fucking chinks

>>62345153
>>62344544
>>62344415
4 GB T7200 TC4400 reporting in
Blame Firefox

>>62345758
Yeah but after a 6-7 months is it still good

>>62343914
Try win 8.1 embedded

>>62345995
T440p and then this >>62346025

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who /thinkpad slash trackball/ here?

>>62345962
Yeah, Juan, because carrying a 6lbs 1.5" thick laptop makes you MANLY and ALPHA. How else are you going to pop in a Knoppix Live DVD whilst sitting in starbuck's?

Pro tip: No, you're not a hacker for using a clunky, bulky ugly 1366x768 laptop, and, no, you're not a hacker for using linsux, and neither will that get you laid. Stop being a fat autistic fuck.

>>62346211
Lmao shut up you twink

>>62346211
Well anon carrying muh thintop and trying to kiss up to your macbook friends by going "hahaha look it's as good as yours :)"
Carrying a 800x600 laptop just because it's lighter doesn't make you any smarter anon

>>62346239
I'm 6'6", I weigh 225 lbs and I deadlift 4 plate.
>>62346287
No, I carry a 1080p laptop that is light and efficient because I'm not a leet hacker but a regular person who has regular work to do and I also happen to have a normal sex life.

>>62346327
Sure anon
I bet you're a big guy

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>>62346327
Fucking shit gotta stop replying to these

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Bought a T420s, but after hearing everyone say it's not that great of a machine it makes me wish I had instead spent the money upgrading my X220 instead.

G-Guess I will just stick with it and give it my love.

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>>62346350

so am i normie for posting this from a p40 yoga?

>>62346327
>being this insecure about yourself that you have to add your height weight and mention your sex life
>>62346449
>being so insecure that you have to post official identification to prove that you're insecure
Fuck anon I could even be a 30 cm midget but you lost so hard

>>62346485
kinda and kinda not
if you were a normie you'd post from a FagBook
if you weren't a normie you'd get an X2xx Tablet

you're just inbetween, schroedingers normie

>>62346518
How's that virginity treating you, manlet?

Can I bypass my BIOS's forbidden USB booting by using PLOP?

>>62346389
don't worry, it's an adorable ThinkPad. The only thing I dislike about it is the soldered CPU, I'd love to have a Quad-core in it. did you already get a fullHD upgrade kit? there are still a few ones out there. out of all the upgrade kits released, this is the simplest but it costs $50 and you'd need a screen too which would cost about $40. don't worry, your money didn't go to waste, anon-kun.

>>62346518
that damage control

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oh, and, btw

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Is a used t460 for $599 a good price? Seems like its lightly used, i5, 1080p, backlit keyboard. Pretty much has all the features they need Picking out something for my parents, and this seems perfect, but I haven't heard much about the t460. im also wondering if it has easy to find docks (sold my mother on getting one after telling her about the dock), and if the blue bit in pic related just means that t doesn't come with a trackpoint, and i need to buy one and put it on?

>>62346449
>cm

Sorry can't read that commie shit.

>>62346574
(You) counter when??????

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>>62341183
/tv/ here. So y'all just discuss laptops ITT? lmao

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>>62346580
>commie shit

Okay :^)

>>62346576
docks for newer ChinkPads (please don't call them ThinkPads, they don't deserve that name) are expensive as hell compared to the old ones. Expect to pay more than $70 dollars. And yes you just have to buy a new clit for the keyboard

>>62346601
>>>/tv/
>literally a board for saying "Did you see X last night?" so neckbeards don't feel alone in their animu
>laughs at people giving buying advice to others
Le Mayo!

>>62346576
im also wondering how easy installation is for the screen and keyboard on t460? i have some experience with laptop parts but not much, and i dont want to fuck it up since im not using my own money to buy it. seems like models with the lower res are a lot cheaper, and it would be fun to do some upgrades
>>62346661
alright, thanks m8. $70 should be fine, the budget for a new laptop is $1000, but im trying to save them some money. im just going to call them thinkpads though, thats what the brand says. i have no experience with older thinkpads so i dont really care if they're not as good as they used to be so long as it gets the job done. looks like even the newer models are loads better than other laptops out there though, haha. seems like 100% of laptops nowadays have garbage keyboards, and even newer thinkpads are loads better in that regard

>>62346327
>deadlift 4 plate
Yeah, you eat a lot if you need 4 plates for that.

>>62346607
dude, you are insecure beta that fucks ugly fatties
now GTFO

>>62346700
kind of a shame you never used old ThinkPads. Maybe you'd still want to check out the T430 or T420? they're only $200 at max and docks are widely avaiable and cheap. the new T-series uses crap ultrabook CPUs and the last good one is pretty much the T440p for having a replacable CPU. of course, it probably doesnt matter to your parents what kind of CPU is installed but there hasnt been a big improvement over the last years so even a 3rd gen processor will handle all tasks thrown at them with easy. just look at us autists using 6 year old notebooks and not complaining because they're still working well. just think about it and maybe look around if there is somebody selling one in your area, you should definitely test it out. I also dont think they'd complain about the keyboard soo... save your money and get either a T420 or T430, there are plenty of youtube videos about these two so you could look at them. if they want something smaller (12" instead of 14") you could look into the X-series. The X220 is great even today and you can easily get one for $130.

>>62346834
how hard is the cpu install? seems like it would be more prone to going wrong than a screen/ram/hdd replacement. im most likely going to buy an x220 or t420 for myself at some point after ive saved up some money. i dont think id be able to sell them on something older, but well see. my mother has been using a garbage dell for the last 3+ years, and id like to get her some thing modern that she'll appreciate. she also did ask for a nice keyboard (again, that dell was absolutely terrible in every way). if I could, i would buy an older model for myself first, see how it runs, and how i like it, and then get my parents a thinkpad based on what i think of it. but they need one fairly quickly, and im thinking id rather go with something newer and safe if i dont know what im getting into. on a side not, my biggest issue for myself with an older model is that im a sucker for nice displays, and i dont know how much i would like a 1366x768 resolution. but you cant go wrong with a ~$200 price range, so ill try it anyways. thanks for the helpful responses, anon

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>>62346552
Wouldn't know pretty comfy with my boyfriend
>>62346573
>it's not damage control when I'm being called a manlet and post my id but it is when you call me faggot for doing so

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Hey lads, moving offices at work and we chucked a bunch of `shit` we decided we'd never use out, among that was an X210, T410, T400 another one in my car I forget and the guts of a T530, like it was in a box torn completely apart, but every piece was there, apparently there was something wrong with it, an ex-employee was going to fix it but never did

Anyway I've plugged the fan and power in and it spins up alright but the screens fucked, what are my chances of sacrificing a T410 display to get this bad boy operational again?
Recommendations?
Is LVDS that diverse, could maybe solder up a connector if I needed to?
Anywhere I could find pinouts? Can't seem to find them in the hardware manual.

I've found a good offer for a T440p but it also has a GT730m, will that change something like CPU temps or whatever? I really don't need a dedicated GPU and I wanna know if it will influence something.

>>62347002
well, I ain't stopping here brother
The only old ThinkPads that have a 1080p screen or can hold one are the W500, the T500 (if you install the 1080p panel from a W500 in it), the W510, the T510, the W520, the T520, the W530 and the T530. then there are the ones where you can install one after modding: these are the T420s and the T430s (the mod costs $50 and you'd need a panel), the X220 and the X230 (requires soldering, not practical because it uses one of the DisplayPort ports of the dock and it'll be as if it is powering two displays at all times which puts stress on the CPU and slows it down). almost everybody who has used a ThinkPad keyboard has said it's one of the greatest and even the chiclet keys are acceptable apparently. if they need something fairly quickly, just get them either that T460 or a T430, both work like a charm, they are still fast for everyday tasks and the T430 is cheaper but can't hold a 1080p screen. if your parents care about screen quality and resolution, go T460. if not, just get a T430. as for you, 720p sucks dick unless you're on 12", then its acceptable. I would get a T420s in your case, the upgrade kit is literally putting a little chip on your motherboard and connecting the display cable, thats it. you'll then have a 1080p screen, you cant upgrade the CPU but I dunno if that matters this much. if you need more info just ask, I'm here all day

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>>62346449
Manlets BTFO

>>62347020
haha gay faggot
>>62347025
nah, 14" isnt for 15" laptops, but the T530 can use a 1080p screen, maybe there's something about it in the HWM
>>62347041
not CPU temps but general temps, iirc you can use just the iGPU so don't worry

>>62347134
>he isn't even 200cm
why even bother continuing

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Just flashed my w530's BIOS with a custom logo

Too bad it reduced to 16 color and looks like its from an SNES but it still looks rad

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lol oh well

>>62347135
At least I'm not a virgin
Also
>he doesn't have a rich bf who buys him shit even though I tell him not to
Lmao@u

>>62347266
Why isn't the dot on the i lined up with the Terminators eye?
Reeeeeeeee

Are the ULV processors that bad? I was going to buy one with a i7-4600U but I'm not sure now..

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>>62347302
it is. exact center of the mass.

>>62346449
>>62347134
>197cm
Damn, dudes. Must be hard for you.
I'm 185cm and i'm taller than most people i meet on the streets.
Sometimes i meet lads who are even taller than me and they always look so out of place. I almost feel sorry for them.

>>62347291
enjoy your buttsex faggot

>>62347244
You can see the dot isn't centered on the pupil. How could you live with that.

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my librebooted MacBook 2,1 is superior to your librebooted X200. prove me wrong.

>>62347403
im a lil drunk so maybe its not as centered as i think
will fix tomorrow with the jaggies on the text

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fixed it. removed the dot, let the eye be the dot.

>>62347318
pls respond

>>62341784
>Hardware backdoors
Intel ME can only function when a payload is uploaded to it from the BIOS. Post Core2 Thinkpads have unflashable chips that check signatures of the blobs uploaded to the ME engine on boot, making an i-series Libreboot port impossible without modifications to the hardware.

Anyway, my point is that physical access to a device will always be a "hardware backdoor". Intel ME's coprocessor may have been created for evil use, but any software can be uploaded to it and used on Core2-era devices, making it more a feature ready to be used, rather than a hardware backdoor.

Oh, and as for the X40, have you audited your BIOS? It may be constantly listening for a Lenovo representative to tap in and take a look at your device. :v)

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>>62347446
My Libreboot W500 is superior to your Libreboot MacBook 2,1. Prove me wrong.

Also, post pics that sounds like an awesome device.

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>>62341265
Good taste.

>>62347134
c-can i-i t-touch your k-ielbasa?

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>>62347856
You get a hi five

>>62347519
Now if only it wasn't 2x2 pixels...

>>62347119
that sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. ill see about that T430. it should be enough for them, it just depends on whether they trust me to find a used product that needs upgrades and deliver it to them in one piece, haha. (what about T450, havent heard anything about those at all, and they were difficult to find on ebay when i looked). according to the thinkpad buyers guide in the OP, s series are generally not as good. is the difference enough to make me regret my purchase of a T420s over a T420? i really like the smaller form factor of the x series, but screen quality is important enough to me that i would get a T420 over an x220/230 if i cant buy a better screen for them. from what you're saying, im leaning towards a T420 right now, as i kind of want the classic thinkpad experience with the older keyboard. some anons were posting about a thinkpad where you could take out the disc drive and replace it with an hdd, would you know which one that was?

>>62347856
can someone explain libreboot and its benefits to me? i did a google search, but i dont quite understand what it does and why its talked about so much here. from what i understand its a bios upgrade that gives better security? excuse my newness, and thanks in advance

is $300 for a t60 a good price?

>>62348057
FOSS BIOS with no proprietary blobs, meaning no Intel ME or any other issues possibly embedded in your stock proprietary BIOS. Also faster boot times.

>>62348093
how easy is the install? can i fuck it up horribly if o do something wrong? can i get it for the T420?

Is this a good deal?

Lenovo ThinkPad T450s Touch Performance Windows 10 Pro Laptop - Intel Core i7-5600U, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 14" IPS FHD (1920x1080) Touchscreen, Backlit Keyboard, AC Wi-

should I buy a brand new thnikpad?

>>62348182
I do-

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>>62346601
no this is twin peaks general

>>62348152
On a T60 it can be done through software, and on a XX00 series device an external SPI flasher is required. The worst thing you could do is mess up flashing on a T60 and have to buy a SPI flasher and rip it open to save it. Otherwise, it's hard to mess up really…

No, the T400 is the last supported 14" Thinkpad. However, coreboot exists if you just want a speed boost.

What's the largest screen/best display thinkpad one can purchase?

>>62348243
W500 with 1920x1200, 16x10 display.

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>>62341183
Fuck I missed out on a sticker. My internet went down for the last three days and they're all sold out. Is there a chance of another batch?

>>62348274
Yes the next batch is soon©

Couldn't you have ordered it on your phone tho

I'm not trying to throw bait and I'm genuinly curious why does /g/ prais thinkpads so much and which model are we talking about?

>>62348240
All X60 models can be flashed with libreboot, however not all T60 can be due to some having ATI chips. All T400 can be I believe. For a T420 someone can do coreboot + ME cleaner. It's not libreboot but it's better than nothing.

>>62348342
Yeah, you're right, good information to include.

>>62348340
T420 is the official meme thinkpad.

In a nutshell; cheap, durable, literally a fucking bento box so they're weebshit, large community, easy to repair.

>>62348291
My phone is a 3GS, alright for browsing to scratch the itch and exactly what I want in a phone in general, but it gets a bit tricky with online form submission.

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Anon that helped me flash a custom bios splash image yesterday, I could use your help for another splash image done.

It would actually be easier if you explained the template you have that you make them with, because I get the same error every time otherwise

>>62348431
Dank

I love it

>>62348381
I just restarted the Libreboot general
>>62348458
Lots of resources for ThinkPads in the thread

Just bought a usb drive to install some distros on my ThinkPad. What's a good benchmark program (for Windows)? I can't remember the name of the one I always see on /g/ and I don't want to create a whole thread for it. Ty

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>>62348533
CrystalDiskMark?

If you mean the one showing system info, that's Speccy.

>>62348600
Thank you it was crystaldiskmark

Does anyone else have issues with their palmrests cracking? It's happened to 3 on my x220 since I got it in Jan.

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>>62341183
Could a T420 i5-2520M with 8gb of ram be able to run AutoCad 2015 smoothly without bursting into flames?

how's the fan on the t430?
the fan on the t420's quite loud and i'm considering an upgrade

>>62348873
Still too fucking loud

>>62348882
How about the x220/230?

>>62348243
W540 with the 3K IPS.

How to do with a 16:9 screen for boot screen ?
How can i change boot screen after upgrade of the bios ?

hello virgins

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Is an x220 too small as an everyday notebook? I have an 15.5inch notebook atm but its way too big and i use a twm anyway. Will i regret making it my only computer? (Kind of a minimalist)

>>62349296
No, you won't regret it at all. It's the perfect size.

>>62349296
I've been using a TWM on an X220 for the better part of a year. You won't regret it.

>>62349375
>>62349406
Alright, thanks guys

Should I go for 8gb or 16gb on my T440p?

And how big of an SSD should I go for? Mine has a 500gb HDD

>>62343893

Macbook air

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>>62341183
Can the next thread be the "family photo edition"?
I need better lighting.

>>62349296
Depends. If you have a larger screen at home it's good. If not, you might want to consider either a larger laptop or buying a seperate screen. 12" is fine but sometimes you just need something bigger.

>>62348243

P70 with 4k

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>>62349653
>All but one running Windows
>Linuxmint

>>62349862
i'm assuming all three of those have dgpus
drivers for anything but intel are too much trouble on linux to be worth it

>>62342081
I have a X61 Tablet with 160GB HDD, 2GB RAM, and Win 7 Pro. I also have a genuine pen, (new) battery and dock.

>>62349296
Way too small for me. The 14 inch Thick series is pretty good.

>>62346601
>talking shit with an I<3DP shirt on

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going to buy a t420 from some guy online, asked him to fully charge it so i can test before i buy, besides running speccy what are some other things i should check out.

t. first time thinkpad buyer.

>>62349862
No need to be upset, pal. I'm not too far into the open-source black hole. The W541 stays docked, the X201t is my dd, the T60 will probably share that role eventually. The T41 needs a new battery, so it doesn't have a role.

>>62350048
The T41 does.

where do fellow europoors buy their thinkpads from?

>>62341278
My X61 is lenovo branded, not IBM. Did I fall for the meme?

>>62350132
You can find an IBM branded lid & palmrest.

>>62350132
IBM labeling on *60s and *61s doesn't mean anything. They were all designed and made under Lenovo.

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>>62341367
Does Twin Peaks predate Thinkpads?

>>62350048
Older Nvidia hardware is at least usable with nouveau. It's just not worth buying any device with dedicated graphics hardware, unless it's switchable with Intel.

>>62350104
What a shame, does the T60 have AMD hardware or something?

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>>62350103

>>62350177
ATi GPU, so there are drivers. Truth be told, I've only had it for a week, and linux wasn't my top priority. I'll probably go full normie and dualboot win7 with another flavor of the month. What do you recommend?

>>62350176
By a couple of years, yeah

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>>62350231
I don't have an preference, just unfortunate you can't throw Libreboot on that T60. ;(

Maybe try Debian? That's my main OS.

Where is that anon with the Japanese keyboard I want to ask them something

>>62350103
>>62350222

Just do the usual tings when buying a new laptop,check the temps, ask if the user replaced the thermal paste, also check the keyboard, I read somewhere that people use something to make it look better than it actually is.

Also just check the Bios for anything that doesn't look right.

>>62350332
I have one on my X200, and am waiting for one for my W500. Whatcha wanna know?

Should I get an X61 tablet for 4:3 comfort or an X200 tablet for higher resolution and full-size keyboard?

>>62350423
Where'd you get it from?

Also how does it feel being a spacebarlet
The spacebar is my only concern

>>62350279
I already have the winshit 95 pape, now I need this one, awoo-kun, mind sharing it? ARIGATÊAU!!!

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>>62350543
Aliexpress, you just need to get lucky. If they say "Refurbished", that means they spray it with clearcoat to get rid of any sign of previous wear, and stick a chink trackpoint on it. My last one I got for my X200 was spray-painted but it looks new and hasn't begun to wear down so I guess I got lucky...

The one for my W500 is apparently "new" so we'll see how that goes.

>>62350564
Lol, sure.

Should I refurbish my X61t with Plasti Dip?

>>62350543
Not him but i have the weeb keyboard on my T440p, see my rant here rbt.asia/g/thread/62292070/#62302057

tl;dr dont

Shit my escape key on the x220 just stopped working for some reason. It just randomly did it on arch Linux and then on windows it did the same. I reseated the keyboard cable and cleaned it out and it worked, but only if I disabled the trackpoint.

If I enable the trackpoint all the trackpoint does is scroll for some reason, and if I press too many keys I get the noise because the esc key is registered as being pressed all the time.


Do I just need to replace the keyboard? It worked fine for several hours since I got it and just started it out of the blue.

>>62348081

Hell no. I'd pay like $100 tops for one in perfect condition.

>>62350662
What other upgrades do you have on it?

>>62350606
Thanks between you and the anon I quoted I'll figure out if I should do it or not. Do you like it?

Okay /g/ I need help fast
I have 30 minutes left to try to buy a T440s with i7-4600U, 8 GB RAM, 1080p IPS display for 350 euros. Thing is, I don't know if a T440p would be even better. I've looked online and in Europe there aren't many used T440p sold, way more T440s.

Is a T440p that MUCH better over the T440s? The upgradable CPU and the full voltage CPUs are tempting, but I don't know if I should risk it over this deal.

I know I'm probably overthinking this but it's my first Thinkpad and I want to be sure.

>>62345651
use an external reader, it's the only way.

>>62350820
I do like it, but I also don't mind the US layout. If you're going from another layout, rest assured it takes a lot of getting used to. Once you are it's comfy to use.

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>>62350852
That's not a bad purchase anon, but if you really need the extra grunt from the t440p it's damn worth it. It's also a lot sturdier, and you can throw a 9 cell in it for great battery life.

I'm in the UK and this is my first ThinkPad, I got it for £240. Swapped CPU for £115, added a spare SSD lying around and bought a new battery for £70. Not sure how it is on the continent, but over here there's a shit ton of T440 ex-business base models and not that many T440p/T440s in comparison. Ebay has a few dozen of both at the moment for me at least, they aren't rare by any means.

>>62345962
>t440p
>not t420s
Have fun lugging that round, you probably think it shows off your gains, it just makes you look like a fat lonely autist.

>>62350887
I'm teaching myself Japanese and I'm planning on studying abroad so I suppose it'll help. Thanks!

Do I just search Japanese Keyboard [thinkpad model]?

>>62350897
the t440p is lighter than the t420 you stupid numale

you have to be a massive homosexual to find a t420 "heavy"

>>62350910
"Thinkpad Japanese Keyboard" yeah haha

>>62350892
I'm not sure I do need extra CPU power, but the fact that I can upgrade it later on is useful to also extend its longevity. There are a few T440p, but none of them have 1080p/IPS screen sadly.

what the best distro to run on a librebooted x200

>>62350941
That's a £50 upgrade or so, it's not too big a deal.

>>62350897
It weighs a pound and a half more than the T440s, if that's enough to make it "lugging" then you're weak as hell.

>>62350984
>£50 upgrade
Isn't it a pain in the ass to do though?

>>62350820
>What other upgrades do you have on it?
Nothing really outstanding, the t450 touchpad, 4800QM, FHD IPS and SSD.

>>62350941
A genuine new FHD screen is $65.

>>62350910
Then you have a reason to get the weebboard, check the FRUs of your model and search by FRU. Or just "model + japanese".

>>62348764
easily, I run inventor 2018 on my t420s with the same processor.

>>62350995
Only in the slim models with the glued bezel, the 440p one is ez as fug.