I just installed W10, what programms do I have to run now to fix the privacy things?
>>62329431
Rufus. Use it to copy an iso for installing a better OS on an USB.
rufus
>>62329431
None, stop believing /g/ memes and stop being a tinfoil retard
I dont think any third party app will work, I dont trust them, its Microsoft's OS so if they want to spy on you they will, no third party app will work, or even if it works for some time Microsoft will update Windows to make those apps not work. Maybe the only thing you can do is to install W10 Enterprise edition and disable telemetry almost completely in it through group policy. In the enterprise edition you can disable more telemetry than in the other editions
>needing third party applications to have your OS do what you want it to do
lel
>>62329484
>if you care about privacy, you're paranoid
Pic related
>>62329431
OP, W10 is a privacy nightmare. You should install a different version of Windows if you really need it. The telemetry updates can just not be installed in 7 and 8.1
>>62329484
>no /g/ memes
>no tinfoils
might as well suggest him to go to /r/Technology
>>62329527
>W10 is a privacy nightmare
aaah these buzzwords make me feel so tingly for some reason, everytime i see them here or on some clickbaity articles
>>62329657
this one ain't any better than the linux article
same amount of misinformation, outdated crap and fud just to generate a "Oh wow shit's serious!" reaction
>>62329704
post the linux one
gentoo
>>62329766
google "altervista main linux problems"
>>62329431
Just tweak group policies.
Then you should use some smart approach, like of course block servers trough which Microsoft communicates - best way is router way.
https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker
I would use hosts from here because it's the most intelligent and safe approach - they had multiple virtual machines with windows 10 running for a long time and daily collecting all attempted connection by the OS, then that's the list with updates / other services being filtered out and being optional blocking.
Here's a start:
v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
settings-win.data.microsoft.com
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
vortex.data.microsoft.com/collect/v1
>>62329431
You don't need an app or program to remove the privacy.
You're going to use group policy editor for a lot of the spying use. Just look up how to disable cortana, and it's the same way for most of that stuff. But windows has privacy settings in control panel too, so turn all those off as well.
>mah privacy
MacOSX™ doesn't have this problem
>>62329817
it doesn't have privacy, you're correct.
>>62329431
Are you a terrorist or a pedophile? What's the big deal about others seeing your data?
>>62329843
are you a terrorist or a pedophile? why don't you post your browsing history here?
>>62329847
Because Microsoft sends it to the government, not to autists on 4chan
>>62329843
NSA and advertising providers microsoft sells the data to.
Basically Microsoft collects and organize the data in a readable form from which you can gather intelligence about that person.
NSA just hoards all data it can without it being structured, hence it lacks the intelligence element it needs.
PRISM and other projects allow NSA to continuously take data from Microsoft servers, their automated flags, scripts and so on work better with that data.
Basically just let them gather data about you if they wanted to the hard way make it useful only when they put real human beings work with it - and that shouldn't happen unless you do illegal stuff.
>>62329865
so privacy infringing is okay as long as ones data gets sold by corporations to the government? what kind of logic is that
>>62329847
Ok:
Outlook.com
Reddit.com
9gag.com
4chan.org/v/
Discord.com
See, no biggie.
>>62329828
So having privacy is a problem to you?
You dingus ;)
>>62329890
You did not include your username, password, clicks, google searches, typed keybinds.. that's the basic core data that gets collected at minimum.
>>62329872
Government fights terrorists and pedophiles. 4chan autists don't.
>>62329890
okay, now your banking details? the porn you watch? your email history? what about your address?
>>62329895
no, i like privacy, i don't want it sold and traded like a commodity. I don't even know what point you're arguing for anymore, you're just saying things and then making assumptions when i try to figure out what you're trying to get to.
>>62329912
I'm saying that macOS is respecting your privacy.
How hard was it to understand?
>>62329890
>no 4chan.org/g/
Are trying to hide something, mister?
>>62329431
>>62329963
Yes privacy is not a problem with OSX you just give it away at first agreement.
>>62329941
how do you know it respects your privacy? the apple website says so? I apologize, I misread the comment you replied to and thought it was a different one.
>>62329906
>muh children and da terrorists
get a warrant if you want to get information on me. besides, many terrorist communications were over things using plaintext such as PS4 online chat. heck, the boston bombings were used over plaintext sms, and the government knew about it and chose to do nothing. hoarding all user data for years just makes it harder for them to actually sift through everything to find what's actually an issue.
You cannot disable it. If it really bothers you, just remember that your hardware and firmware is proprietary and can spy on you, as can most programs you'll use on Windows.
>>62329991
>How do you know
Because I Apple© is trusted by high profile people. They wouldn't use Apple© products otherwise.
>>62330081
:^) of course. that makes sense, if Senate member xx uses apple because he believes it's secure, it must be secure
>>62329469
>>62329472
le fun fun meymeys
>>62329941
>We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used
>We may collect information regarding customer activities on our website, iCloud services, our iTunes Store, App Store, Mac App Store, App Store for Apple TV and iBooks Stores and from our other products and services
>We may collect and store details of how you use our services, including search queries
>Apple may use this information in our marketing and advertising services
>At times Apple may make certain personal information available to strategic partners that work with Apple to provide products and services, or that help Apple market to customers
https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
>>62330114
>inb4 he says 'but MS/google/everyone else does it too!' or some other similar answer
>>62329431
just smash your PC with a rock, no one can steal your data that way
>>62329519
that's how every os works
you use one so you can install third party applications
>>62330145
there's a difference between installing a third party application to, say, connect to the internet, and installing a third party application to manage, for you, the operating system itself in ways like keeping your privacy preference disabled or other such settings.
>>62330165
The difference is that if you can chose between different applications you can get exactly what you need out of your OS instead of being dependent on the shit it ships with.
>>62330114
>Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device
>>62330198
>using windows 10 home edition
>disable firewall/cortana/updates through the UI
>MS says, in their Terms, that they will turn them back on for you when they feel like it
>using not windows 10
>disable updates/firewall through the UI
>they stay off
basically, if I tell the OS to (not) do something with its settings, it should continue to (not) do it for as long as I do not change the setting. Installing a third party application to manage those for me because the OS itself refuses to let me control it is bad design. This isn't a matter of having choice (chrome vs edge vs firefox, etc) it's a matter of my OS doing what I, and not MS, tell it to do. If the OS doesn't let me administer it in the way I want it to, it's a garbage OS.
>>62329431
bu kardeş
https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases
>>62330114
And all this "tracking" is to improve quality of services Apple© is providing to their customers.
This is the reason why Apple© products are so high quality. ;)
>>62330247
I think this is a misunderstanding. I thought he was referring to things like NetworkManager to connect to the internet as third party software, whereas in Windows such things a builtin.
>>62329890
>cucklook
>need to b shot
choose both
>>62330272
nah, I was referring to administering the system itself. I'm obviously fine with different options for doing external things (text editing, internet browsing, network management). i have an issue, mainly, with the OS needing third party software to manage the internals and administrative stuff of the machine itself.
>>62329500
Seconding enterprise, especially if it's ltsb. No telemetry, no metro, no edge, no cortana, no windows store, no feature updates that take hours to download and that's not even mentioning what you can do with local and group policies. Using it as my second OS when compatibility is absolutely needed and couldn't be happier.
>>62330269
I'm sure it's also used in that regard, but the fact remains that they don't respect their users' privacy in the slightest.
>>62329559
maybe you should stop visiting these sites and go back to redit?
>>62330386
>No telemetry
False.
And everything else you mentioned can be disabled via group policies with normal enterprise without locking yourself in a kiosk os meant for hardware that should never be tampered with.
>>62329431
>what programms do I have to run now to fix the privacy things?
Uninstall it. All of it
>>62330386
>no telemetry
I use LTSB but don't kid yourself.
>>62330849
>kiosk os
It's just Enterprise with less bloat, you can install whatever's missing.
>>62330965
can you install store and use UWP apps?
>>62329431
>57 posts
>nobody posted the correct link
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
>>62330992
your link is boring and doesn't fuel anyone's paranoia
>>62330985
I believe so. Why would you want Windows store?
>>62331109
last time i checked it was impossible or led to OS breakages. Windows doesn't like when someone is messing about with its guts.
As for why - there are some handy uwp apps, like Xodo, and some others, and i also believe uwp platform will be getting bigger and bigger, and ignoring it, thinking that it will maybe go away, is childish.
>>62329469
>>62329472
This.
/thread
>>62331172
Personally I don't use Windows for anything important so LTSB is best for me, but I see how it could be a problem.
>>62329431
stop looking at Child Pornography
>>62331183
it's a meme you dipshit
>>62331230
Why don't you tell me your full name, location, bank account balance and favorite porn genre? It's not like you're a pedophile right? You have nothing to worry about.
>>62331256
are you worried that MS is going to blackmail you for looking at tranny porn?
>>62331279
I'm worried they sell that shit to advertisers or simply have a compromised server. Stuff like that happens every day. You have no idea who ends up with your data in the end.
>>62331342
then why use windows at all?
why would they sell that to advertisers?
feels like it would be more valuable to them to keep it for themselves.
>>62331371
>then why use windows at all?
I don't
>why would they sell that to advertisers?
Money?
>feels like it would be more valuable to them to keep it for themselves.
It's not like they can't use the data for their own marketing etc. and still share it with third parties.
>>62331231
No, its the only sane fix to botnet10.
Take a while to figure it out. If u block too much windows break itself.
>>62331417
there is nothing to block -> >>62330992
it breaks itself when you start disabling services, that YOU think YOU don't need
>>62329431
You better have enterprise nigga
>>62329431
gentoo
>>62329431
install gentoo
>>62331619
I don't want shitty UWP apps running at background but guess what? Disable it breaks the start menu.
Block some host break some others settings, so I fixed all of that shit removing win10 itself.
>>62329469
rufus has issues for me on some distros like void. Etcher works nicely
>>62329865
I'm sure they sell it outside of the government too. Corporations must love you
>>62329431
>fix the privacy things
Hahahahahhhahahahahahaha
>>62335869
Disable them running in background but do not disable them entirely. I still use the calculator from time to time tbqh..
>>62329963
...as much
>>62336399
So I just need to set telemetry to 0 and then disable MSRT and Windows Defender.
Looks great. I appreciate that Microsoft is making this information available as documentation right in the operating system.
Why are you laughing though?
>>62336756
You also need to disable every single privacy setting from the menu and Cortona and the typing thing from group policies.
It wouldn't hurt to also disable telemetry via hosts there are 5 ip's which Microsoft also provides.
Usually if your power setting is set for saving or if you're on battery windows sends 0 data but if you're on power cord even with lowest settings for privacy windows might send small packets of data periodically which include your unique device id alongside what peripherals you have, windows version and so on - some random shit which can be 100% avoided by blocking the servers.
>>62336756
>minimal data
It's still spyware you illiterate tard.
A think..think
>>62337012
Read the next sentence you illiterate tard.
>>62336756
Read again. It includes, not limited to. So there's more than MSRT/MSE data still sent to MS.
>>62337070
But then it would say "This data includes, but is not limited to, ..."
>>62337109
It includes as in there's a blob of data still sent, which also includes MSRT/MSE. You may disable the MSRT/MSE data collection (or disable MSE completely and decline MSRT's installation, since it's not installed by default, you only get it on the first update), but the rest of that data blob (which is unknown to you and what it consist of, only MS knows) is still sent.
>>62337219
But it doesn't say that anywhere, where are you getting your information from?
Random russian kids on the internet?
>>62337240
It's how the wording is. "Includes" means there's more than only the few stated things.
>>62337262
No it doesn't. It doesn't exclude that possibility but it doesn't mandate it either.
>>62337294
Then the wording would have been "This data consist of ..", which it isn't.
>>62337341
Whoever wrote that didn't expect that a retard would nitpick over the phrasing.
Read >>62330992
Telemetry consists of those three things. It's called telemetry because it's doing nothing but reporting information back to Microsoft.
All other connections listed there aren't telemetry but something that is required for various components to operate.
>>62329431
Install Gentoo
>>62337021
You have no idea what it's actually sending.
>>62337477
>legal loopholes
>you're just nitpicking
Unironically kill yourself.
>>62338255
>group policy description is a legal document
>>62337477
>required for various components to operate
There are fully functional OSs, and even versions of Windows, that have all those features and never connect to the internet. That data is not necessary.
>>62338275
It is, you fucking tard. They can't lie to customers outright, but with proper wording they can get away with whatever.
>>62329431
you can't fix them
>>62338175
>>62329657
I don't even use Windows but the guy who wrote all that shit is a fucking retard. He doesn't know anything.
>>62338281
>all those features
Name one feature that now requires an internet connection but didn't before.
>>62338289
>They can't lie to customers outright
They have a limited warranty clause in the license just like literally every other piece of software. They can do whatever they want.
They don't need to rely on tricky wording to get away with shit. Not everything is an elaborate ploy.
>>62329866
Unless a scumbag Senator commits felonies with Medical Insurance Fraud for the sake of the Cody family and other such shit, aka no warrants, all Character assassination and destruction of rights.
>>62338361
It was you who said it needed the connections to operate.
>>62338667
Ok then I'll give you one example.
Previous versions of Windows didn't have a Microsoft-provided push notification service.
>>62338706
Why would that need internet?
Why do you fags keep insisting than Win10 can be fully debotneted? Sorry to burst your bubble, but it can't. You can make it phone home less often, but you can't stop it completely.
>>62338730
Because the notification is coming from the internet you dumbass.
You can let microsoft handle sending notifications to millions of your users instead of creating your own infrastructure and wasting the user's battery power by maintaining a separate connection.
>>62338782
There's no reason the whole OS should break without Internet, just notifications.
>>62338768
Why do you fags keep insisting that Win10 can't be fully debotneted? Sorry to burst your bubble, but it can.
See, I can make statements like that on the internet too.
>>62338768
We all know that, people saying you can are shilling either Windows or the "de-botnet" programs.
>>62338805
>There's no reason the whole OS should break without Internet
Well it doesn't. What's your point?
>>62338817
Go on, post a 72-hour Wireshark test from your "debotneted" PC on idle. Hell, even 24 hours is usually enough to see a ping to MS.
>>62338832
Go on, disconnect the internet for a week on Windows 10. See what happens.
>>62329906
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>62338845
Since you seem to be so well informed about issues that occur on a disconnected installation of Windows 10, why don't you just tell me what they are?
>>62338298
Not an argument against Gentoo
>>62338841
There's a restricted baseline configuration package available on this link >>62330992
You can do it yourself. You won't trust me anyway.
>>62338897
It will still send data. If there's even a single ping to an MS server, it's botnet.
>>62338917
>It will still send data.
There's only one way to find out.
>>62338946
Honestly it isn't worth the effort for me, I separate my proprietary machines from my safe machines.
>>62338962
>it isn't worth the effort
But shitposting about it clearly is.
>>62338991
Just trying to help people who want to use Windows 10 for important data. I might start linking them that instead.
>>62329843
>>62329865
>im happy to open my anus and data to corporation and im happy with it
this kind of people is the future, scary
>>62330965
>I use LTSB
Is LTSB worth losing feature updates? Also, when you open Windows Settings, does it look like pic related, or is it different?
>>62339144
depends if you're a gaymer or not
>>62339174
I do play games on Windows 10.
>Inb4 Minecraft
>>62339203
>installed an indian windows iso from bittorrent
>>62339144
I don't think there's really a difference for regular use between Enterprise and LTSB.
>>62339174
I play games on LTSB, what's the problem?
Is there an activator for Enterprise?
>>62339270
Well, I haven't had any problems with it, and I've been able to activate it without paying.
>>62339279
Are the feature updates worth losing for LTSB? I've read that those are some of the things LTSB doesn't get, but I'm not sure if they are worth losing.
>>62339329
If you really need a feature update I believe you can manually install them, but are any of them worth it?
>>62339393
>I believe you can manually install them
You can? How?
>are any of them worth it
I'm not sure if they are, but I would like the option to try them.
>>62339203
>2017
>Windows 10
>>62339418
Download it from Microsoft's website.
>>62339534
idk about english image, but tried to download russian.
The image is broken - it cannot find EULA file after selecting OS edition (pro, home, etc.).
Forced me to login into VSLC and download it from there.
>>62339562
You've reached the point where you should be googling this shit.
>>62339587
I'm too lazy to google, besides, all possible solutions on forums are like "turn computer off and on".
Just download other image from non-public site section (there you can get office, exchange, older shindows versions, etc; and your enterprise MAK/KMS keys).
>>62339652
>Just download
So, I just downloaded
>>62329431
The best way is to block all communication to Microsoft servers.
Like >>62329799 said, add these to your hosts file.
https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker/wiki/dataHosts
http://www.angelfire.com/comics2/fatboy9175/
Then you have to edit out the Microsoft domains from dnsapi.dll with a hex editor to stop it from bypassing the hosts file. There is a version in System32 and another somewhere in WinSxS which both need to be edited.
>>62339702
Okay and then what happens? You run a vulnerable OS because you never install security patches?
>>62339725
I just use Common Sense™ Deluxe 2018 Edition. It's better than Windows waking my computer up in the middle of the night to install updates.
>>62339835
Turn it off is too difficult?
>>62336399
What happens when you set it to disabled ?
>>62339870
in a word, yes.
>go to options, turn off, doesn't change anything anyway.
now try not to be a smartass again, dumbass.
>>62339534
Link pls.
>>62341146
You can defer feature updates for 365 days and security updates for 30 days. Why would you need more than this?
>>62339835
Le Common Sense doesn't magically patch vulnerabilities, doofus.
A truck.
Over your HDD
>>62329431
You need a firewall on your router that blocks any and all Microsoft traffic.
Installing programs that Windows has control over will do exactly jackshit to help you.