I hate audiophiles

>I have shit hearing
lmaoing @ youre life too be honest famm.

ok

>>62323340
Real audiophiles EQ $3 walmart shitphones to sound like HD800.
t. professional audiophile

>>62323340
Hey at least you know that guy could listen to his music whilst the solar storm was going on with no measurable difference in snr...

I wish I could be an audiophile but I have tinnitus

>>62323340
snek

>>62323364
REAL Audiophiles, EQ and tune an FM transmitter and receiver.
Listening to anything with Wire Bias is plebeian.

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>>62323340

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>these retards buy an overpriced CD reader for 4000 dollars
>Warren Buffet says he call hear the difference and spent 70.000 dollars in a simple CD reader
>in fact it's using a Sony 15 dollar DAC

>>62323390
>Falling for the live snake cables meme

Enjoy your audible hiss

>>62323380
NO STEP ON IT PLOX

>>62323340
>>62321962

>>62323340
>>62323380
>>62323390
>>62323417
Does anyone else think those big audiophile cables looks kind of scary?

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>not using crystals for better audio quality

>>62323618
What is the theory here

>>62323639
placebo

>>62323368
Fake diagnosis like adhd and """depression"""

That's a big python

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>>62323340
>>62323618
why would this anger you anon? this is fucking funny

>>62323639
The desicants absorb the wet audio signals to provide a crisp dry sound.

>>62323340
wtf i hate audiophiles now

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>>62323340
You just can't hear quality

>>62323755
i'm tripping ballz on acid and goddamn this made me laugh

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>>62323340
Whip me with those cables daddy!

>>62323764
i thought this was a priest by thumbnail

>>62323340
>literaly laying on the ground
>not propped up on cable elevators
it's like this guy wants to hear the static

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk6R9YlcKNM&index=162&list=FLr2NTVhc3VbkmxfZNUegkXg

>>62323618
Isn't that just dry rice

>>62323417
zozzled

>>62323618
Something like "healing" with gemstones I guess.

>>62323340
the fuck am i looking at

>>62323417
top kek

>>62323417
top banz

>>62323722
Go to an indoor shooting range and spend 8 hours without headphones there. Then ask someone to shoot yourself after, retard.

>>62323454
for you

>i hate people who have autistic hobbies that don't affect anyone or manifest themselves in any way outside their personal domicile
hmm

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>coconut audio's website is squatted

>>62323759
It's comments like these is why i can't quit 4chan.

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>>62323759
>SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN

why does anyone care what audiophiles do?

this is like making threads about how angry amish people make you.

who fucking cares? they're losers. ignore them.

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>tfw my $100 cables came in today

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>audiofags

>>62324973
Ironic, because you post like you're from leddit

>>62323340
it looks like prolapsed ass

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>>62325712
>mac
>windows

>>62323340
Are audiophiles the "alternative science" fags of the consumer tech industry?

>>62324757
Faraday cages around cables i presume

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>>62325712

>>62325826
The computer in that picture is a late 2006 MacBook pro, which contains an Intel x86-64 CPU, and an Intel chipset, plus a BIOS compatibility layer in its EFI, thus making it a fully IBM PC compatible computer that can indeed run Microsoft Windows versions intended for such computers.

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>>62325869

>>62323618
Are those jelly beans?

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>>62323618

>>62323340
They are probably hearing some kind of a difference with those crazy cables. The amplifiers popular with many audiophiles are simple circuits with practically no damping or global feedback and highly reactive to loads. It's not 'truth' they are hearing but an effect. It might be a cool effect but not worth the money imo.

>>62323340
God, why is new hi-fi equipment so goddamn ugly and boring looking. I want flashing lights and VU meters and so many dials that some of them don't even do anything. This clean and minimalist trend needs to stop.

>>62323340
>I hate people enjoying things

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>>62323417
(You) deserve this

>>62323755
Lmao, this.

>>62325967
>implying audiophiles actually enjoy things instead of perpetually "upgrading"

There's nothing wrong with being an audiophile. Like all hobbies, some people just take things way too far. Autists exist in all hobbies.

>>62326062
Everything is wrong about that.
>be autistic about drawing/playing music/crafts
>bring joy to others through art pieces
>be autistic about cooking
>bring joy to others through delicious food
>be autistic about film/tv/literature
>bring joy to others through interesting relatable discussion

>be autistic about linux
>sperg on 4chan
>be autistic about audio equipment
>shitpost on headfi 24/7

>>62323618
you will KNOW the difference

>>62324586
they are sourced from a lake in alaska
there is only 1 place

>>62325889
dat kayne west

>>62323618
>Not attatching orgonite to critical time space domains

Yep we got a whole fucking bunch of Reichlets in here...

>>62326062
It's fine to be into audio. These guys get made fun of because they consistently fail at blind listening tests. They actually can't tell the difference between a normal high-quality setup and their over-the-top shit. I don't think there is an equivalent of this bullshit that hams or model railway fags, etc., buy into.

>>62326146
>be autistic about drawing/playing music/crafts
>bring joy to others through porn
>be autistic about film/tv/literature
>bring misery to others by finding racist transmisogyny in everything
FTFY

>>62326228
>be autistic
>shit all over with your poltardianism

>>62326251
I'm just being real about film/tv/literature autists.

>>62324757
sneks (pls no step)

>>62323639
theory? you don't understand, this provides purely practical benefits, no theory involved

>>62326304
nice

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>>62325869
>steely dan, throat singing, steely dan
>you name it

>>62323364
>tfw I have a legit pair if HD 800S
Come visit anon and we'll have a no homo audio party

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>>62325712

>>62323340
How can the cable be more efficient if the connector is still that small?

>>62323639
It's for high fidelity audio.
The crystals at the top of the cable reflect all the high frequencies back down into the audible hearing range so that you can hear more detail in the music.
If you want more bass you can tape a packet to the bottom too.
Don't tape ones to the side though or you'll kill the soundstage.

>>62323454
Looks like some kind of evil parasite desu

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poorfags

>>62326912
>7.5ips reel-to-reel only
>don't hit on me silly metal cassette users

>>62323340
All that could be replaced with a fiber optic cable.

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>>62326985

>>62326985
you can replace speaker wire with fiber optics?

>>62326985
wireless would be even better hth

>>62327002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK

>>62327029
i said speaker wire, that's clearly speaker wire, notice the spade connectors

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>>62326912
WE

>>62327023
Depends on the wireless. That said, for short distances (>40 feet), hands down the best cable is HDMI. An Amazon Basics HDMI cable will give you better sound than a $1000 cable with crystals taped on it.

>>62327044
That's like saying that HDMI isn't an option because your TV only has a coaxial input. Maybe don't use archaic shit.

>>62323722
Tinnitus is very real, I lost 2 fingers and a foot to an ied but literally the worst part of it is tinnitus. I would give my dick to get rid of it.

>>62326912
>Do YOU come with the audio system?

>>62327077
anon, speaker wire carries amplified analog signals, they drive the speakers
you can't just replace it with a digital cable, that makes no sense
i've heard of power being transmitted by laser light, but i'm not sure if this is available as a speaker wire replacement

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>>62327119
>They drive the speakers.
Only if you're using archaic shit.

>>62327119
A power cord to the speaker, combined with digital signal, is entirely possible.

>>62327128
People will by anything

>>62327128
You can only feed your speakers with an analog signal(speaker wire), those are digital inputs.

>>62327140
that would mean the DAC and amplifier is in the speaker unit, which is perfectly fine, but not what we're talking about

>>62327140
Is not memeboi, speakers are analog.

>>62327049
what anime

>>62327255
Pretty sure that image isn't an anime.

>>62327158
Not even a DAC would be required, just an amplifier circuit as long as the FO cable is sending over PWM signal

>>62327049
'XTERMINAYD

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>>62323340

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>>62327307
pwm is still a digital signal, you could put an analog signal over fiber-optics, but that would be beside the point in this case

also, i wrote up a diagram for those confused about what goes where

>>62327107
>Oh, you. Teeheehee~

>>62323759
If it's too damn dry, you need to use medical grade 3M types instead of industrial.

>>62326835
is this for real? and what kind of crystals?

>>62327001
didnt know they made animes about autistic niches like audiophilia. what is this called?

>>62323722
you stupid motherfucker

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>>62325523

>>62323368
You can be one with tinnitus. You just have to recognize and be able to separate the internal sounds from the external ones.
Tinnitus doesn't stop you from having sensitive hearing. I have tinnitus, I can still make out the hard drives spinning and differentiate between each of the fans in my computer that's 6 feet away. The breathing of my dog who's sleeping 20 feet away. The compressor running in my fridge downstairs, the sprinkler outside and everything else.
I just also hear a high pitched whine mixed in with everything else that I know is internal.

>>62323417
>Beyerdynamissssss

>>62327505
T H I C C
H
I
C
C

>>62325879
>thus making it a fully IBM PC compatible computer
There are no IBM PC Compatibles with EFI and dual core CPUs. Their compatibility is only up to 70%. Direct hardware access is restricted.

>>62327505
wew lad

>>62325712
at that age he most certainly lost a ton of his hearing so what's the point

>>62324794
>Go to an indoor shooting range and spend 8 hours without headphones there.
Why would I willingly fuck up my ears? Guess it makes sense that the people with tinnitus are these type of retards.

>>62326985
Nope. Unless you have a speaker with a build in amp that accepts digital. You can't replace the wire between the speaker and amp with a optic one.

Also, speakers with build in amps are shit. Not even audiophile level shit, just shit.

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for the amount of money they spend wouldn't it be cheaper to just hire an orchestra when ever they want to listen to some tunes?
surely the quality would be "like you're just there"

>>62327556
still cheaper than getting steely dan to play in your living room

>>62327505
>insulators
>on wooden floors
i used to hate these idiots but now i think this is a ripe market for exploitation

what product should i make /g/? i know basic electronics

>>62327556
But my system is better than the orchestra!

>>62327505
THICC

>>62327594
make mains plug with soil insulation, and call it something like Gaia insulation.

>>62327612
"enhanced grounding, made with REAL ground!"

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>>62327594
Anyting with the word "audiophile" on it.

>>62323815
kraft balsam!

>>62327059
Non audiophile detected

Digital Audio over HDMI has terrible terrible jitter. I can easily hear it when I take the spdif out of my TV and plug it into my amp. Aes/ebu over balanced xlr is the best. Also balanced xlr is patrician tier. My digital crossovers have 6 analogue xlr out and that 5v peak to peak with common mode noise rejection is god tier. Won't go back that weak .5 v peak to peak rca shit ever again.

>>62327690
digital signal jitter doesn't mean shit unless you're underrunning your buffer (and literally anybody can hear an underrun buffer, as it results in loud clicks at a minimum)

>>62323639
>some guy learned about audiokeks
>to parody and make fun of them he started to sell audiophile rock sacks which improve audio quality. It was for a joke.
>then more and more people were interested in these
>he could barely keep up with the demand.

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>>62325712

>>62327481
Not him, but it's Akiba's Trip The Animation. The audiophile stuff is just from one episode though. This part was great, very snek oil.

It's called the placebo effect

>>62327481
Like the anon here said
>>62327811
It makes fun of all kinds of autism. I binging it right now. The loonix scene made me Kek hard.
10/4chan in a nutshell

i only listen to 128kb/s mp3s on the headphones that came with my old discman

>>62323340
You hate a particular group of people?
Why? What's your problem?

>>62323454
they look kinda gross

>>62324836
this

>>62323815
What the hell is with the paper wrapped around his cables?

>>62327942
fire hazards go hand in hand with audio quality

>>62327059
HDMI is trash for audio. Optical is the best. Light is faster than copper

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What's even the point of these snake cables? damn..

>>62327986
>Light is faster than copper
latency means nothing when you're talking about a non-interactive media like playing a cd/record
what difference does it make if there's a few more nanoseconds between the laser/pickup and the sound coming out of the speakers? only a consistent rate matters

>>62327894
There is not many groups of people you can make where I wouldn't hate them.
All people who share an ideology?
All people who are vocal about an issue?
All people who owns a car?
All people who doesn't own a car?
Hate is meant to be targeted towards groups of people.
If you can't stop hating individuals, you have a problem.

>>62323340
Who doesn't.

>>62327836
God damn, those cables are hideous

>>62323417
Made me chuckle.

>>62328147
People who hate just because are mentally ill.
Hate is used again individuals and meant to be a short term emotion.

What did audiophiles do to you? Rape your mom?
>le hate because I'm bored in my NEET cave

>>62328165
You can rationalize anything.
I hate people who owns a car when I have to drive behind a slew of people who drive slowly.
Maybe hate is a strong word, I mean the leftist definition of hate.

>>62323722
I know this is b8 but imma respond anyway

Tinnitus is REAL and it's a fate possibly worse than death. protect your ears, people

>>62327049
ARE

>>62328223
The fuck is wrong with you? yeah, tinnitus is real. But it doesn't effect your life in any way. You get used to it.

>>62323815
yes

>>62323618
but mdma crystals do improve audio quality, anon

>>62327594
Audiophile q-tips

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>>62323417
top gouda m8

>>62323417
ayyyyyy

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>>62323340
>all those ravaged Playstations

>>62327505
This always makes me wonder what they do about the cheap power wiring in their walls, or the mass-market pleb-tier transformers down the street that step down their home electricity.

>>62328805
But anon, thats what all this advanced technology is for, to filter the dirty power coming in from the mains. Are you retarded?

>>62328782
Some of those are pretty cool. The ones that still play games, I don't see a problem.

>>62328805
They have battery backup systems in their basements that they charge up and switch over to when they listen to music.

Also devices that clean power exist.

>>62328782
I don't understand. Is there something special about the playstaiton cd palyer or somethings? why tey do dis

>>62328805
Replace all of your wiring with daisy-chained sneks.

>>62328845
because they are morons and think that PS1 had best DAC in DAC history

>>62328845
Yeah, the PS1 one was supposed to have very low noise due to some fluke of design/production. Of course there are others as good (or better?) but it was cheap and easily available so it memed its way into peoples setups.

>>62325933
>t. Techmoan

>>62328863
Only the early units, as Sony used parts that where far better quality than needed.

>>62328860
It has a good DAC for a consumer grade CD player at the time.

>>62328517
I think the resoults may vary, anon.

>>62327049
top kek

>>62323340
Why are they so thick? I don't know much about electronics but the basics.

>>62329200
The additional eddy currents create a warmer sound.

>>62327771

I feel bad for not exploiting these people. All it costs you in this case is stuffing some pebbles into a nylong bag and shipping it.
I am too late for this.

>>62328845
Sony made what was considered some of the best Hi-Fi equipment at the time, and the first batches of playstations had a DAC used in high end standalone players of the time, probably just picked based on what stock was most available
but keep in mind, the playstation came out in 1994, it might have been a good choice as a standalone cd player back then for this reason, but it's not 1994 anymore, the DAC hasn't been anything special in a long time

>>62323340
I've seen slimmer snakes.

>>62327507
Hi mr. Murdock.

What is the purpose of those cables?
I just bought a 5m 3.5mm extension cable for 10€ and it just werks
Just avoid the ultra cheap ones, those break really easily

>>62329945
t. hearlets

>>62323340
I hate myself
I hate stupid people
I hate religions
I hate that aliens don't visit us

>>62330015
>I hate that aliens don't visit us
what do you call feminists?
you really think they're human?

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speakers are good for putting shit on

>>62323340
Imagine one of those climbing into your bed at night while you are sleeping and strangling you to death

>>62328805
most of them don't think hard enough for that
although I saw a video where a japanese dude paid a bunch of money for his own pole and transformer.

>>62325829
Yes.

>>62328845
No.

>>62328863
>very low noise
Not especially, even by the standards of the day. Those early 1-bit converters didn't quite manage to make an effective noise-shaping loop. The lousy circuitry makes it even more of a wonder how it got picked up.

>>62328894
>>62329579
>DAC used in high end standalone players of the time
All PS1s used various versions of AKM's low range multimedia codecs.
I have no idea how people started to think that the PS1 was a decent player. It seems more like a "Coconut Audio" type of prank that has gotten way out of hand

>>62330353
>All PS1s
They changed it in the SCPH-500x. Plus it was half decent for the time. It certainly doesn't sound bad. The point of the "Audiophile" PS1s was that they made for a decent CD player that was cheap and plentiful, and then it got a cult status. Kind of like the Model M, or ThinkPads.

>>62330353
>All PS1s used various versions of AKM's low range multimedia codecs.
Nope, earlier revisions didn't. Sony literary used their stock of DACs meant for high end media players for them at the time, because marketing reasons.

>>62323340
What's the point of those cables if three connectors are tiny shits anyway, also the weight of that cable probably pulls down the connector making it badly connecting.

>>62323454
yes, they are deeply unsettling

>>62328517
It does affect your hearing. It's not a severe condition but it's extremely annoying to never have silence.

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>>62327430
Are you real

>>62327255
akiba's trip

>>62330568
It's only really annoying at night. During the day you're surrounded by enough other sounds to drown it out normally.
But when you lay down for sleep, and it's the only thing you can hear, it's annoying I agree. But it only lasts for a couple min before you fall asleep.
Rather have this then migraines or other weird head shit.

>>62330438
>>62330479
AKM AK4309 was shipped with the initial SCPH-1001.
>SCPH-1001
https://www.stereophile.com/content/sony-playstation-1-cd-player-measurements
>SCPH-5501
https://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/03/measurements-sony-playstation-1-scph.html


>it was half decent for the time
Sony's actual CD players from the time far outstripped it in performance.
>It certainly doesn't sound bad
Sure. A lot of things sound fine. That's more of a statement of our ability to design electronics than of our hearing.
As it stands, AK4309 does not even hit 16 bit effective performance on its spec sheet, never mind in practice.

>>62323387
>transmitter and receiver.
>Wire Bias
Anyone here can tell you then wired is better than wireless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adTecwbWwNI

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>>62323340
just admit you have shit ears

>>62331699
oh im laffin

>>62329945
You really don't get the autism behind audiophiles do you?

>>62323722
I like how we have passed the point where it's impossible to tell who is trolling and who is legitimately stupid

>>62331699
underrated

>>62331871
Here is what you need to know about audio;

All you have to worry about is how close products fit to ideal technical specs, which a lot of companies don't want to publish. Distortion, frequency response, bit depth etc. Thankfully most digital amps being put out today are amazing. CD recording quality will reproduce a sine wave exactly the same as an analog system. Always go digital.

Tube amps, record players, add distortion. The people holding onto these are insane. You can get much higher quality sound by buying off the shelf shit at best buy.

There is something to be said for using high quality insulated cable. I can tell the difference. With high quality cable, the higher frequencies are more apparent. I've done tests with recording mics, and you can tell what cables I used.

Speaker stands that don't transmit vibration and reflections into your desk are very important. Speakers that stay close to ideal specs will perform better, but you may not like the sound. Ported speakers may be okay, but they are not 100% accurate. Front ported speakers are the worst because they resonate fake bass toward you.

The guys that buy very expensive headphones are very dumb. 99% of headphones are shit; mot much better than 20$ earbuds.

>>62331749
sauce on this please

>>62331699
What's with the safety glasses?

>>62331699
It might not be placebo. When my laptop is plugged into the shitty train sockets there's some fucking grain in the headphone output.

>>62332298
reverse search, it's on the first page.

>>62332450
found it thanks

>>62323417
Not bad, kid. *tips*

>>62332450
>>62331749
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/ultrasone-edition-10
>The Ethiopian goatskin on the ear and headband pad is soft and luxuriant.
kek Ethiopian goatskin

>>62332627
for $2749 they better be made out of Ethiopian skin

>making fun of audiophiles
>buying mechanical keyboards, ricing or even using linux, programming with lisp, having expensive computer specs, etc, all perfectly acceptable behaviors and not autistic at all
kek

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>>62323340
>conflating audiophiles with audiophools
Take your $8 monoprice buds back to /v/.

I wish I was retarded enough to spend my life rotting away with the only "hobby" being listening to shit ,buying and "optimizing" expensive(and more than likely placebo) equipment.
god i miss the days when I used to sell shiny stones on ebay in plastic bags as "audiophile crystals" for $150 a pop. Good times

>>62323722
>>>/pol/

>>62332793
LOL
Same effect could be achieved with less show-off - in smaller cases with properly made labirynths

>>62326912
>non-audiophile grade woman in the room

might aswell listen to 96k mono mp3 with $3 earbuds m'lord

>>62332851
> with less show-off
I think you miss the point here.
How will all your audiofriends know you have serious equipment.

>>62332779
>first world problems
I wish a pair of headphon--- err, I mean, head speakers gave me that commotion

>>62323639
negative ions

>>62331749
What the fuck is wrong with his face?

>>62332870
Good sound is the most important thing
Good sound from inconspicuous looking equipment is GOD LEVEL real audiophile

>>62333007
no, that's usually pro equipment and completely ignored by audiophiles
if the manufacturer provides a complete set of measurements it can't be good because it's missing all the magic

>>62332945
Case of heavy audioautism.
I know - horrible disease, but they would say it's photoshopped

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>>62323618

>>62333027
It is laughable how little the audiophool community look into professional equipment.
Since the performance per $€£ spend is much higher.
But maybe it is all do dodge the uncomfortable truth that, the room matters almost more than the equipment.

>>62333182
>room
my $55k headphones need no room

>>62333182
of course it is. a real audiophile does not believe in any kind of room influence, he rather uses another power cable

>>62327128
Those inputs are for the built-in DAC and amp you fool.

>>62333182
audiophiles are the prime example for the phrase "more dollars than sense"
they aren't looking for high quality audio equipment, they don't know how audio works, they don't know what to look for
they just get whatever costs the most and has the most interesting sales pitch/reviews by other audiophiles (at least that's what it looks like, i don't even want to know what is going through their heads)

BLIND TEST

>>62333770
That's a thing that 'audiophiles' fear the most

>>62333421
What triggers me most is his fucking Mains frequency purifier/generator.
For fuck sake, at this point he should just battery power the whole thing, like a true Audionigger.

>>62323340
THICC

>>62333770
>>62321962
apropos blind tests, I've come to the conclusion that a same-sized AAC-LC (fdkaac) kicks OPUS in the balls for hi-bitrate music, and I can scientifically demonstrate it (comparing spectrograms in the 0-18MHz region with the source with sox and imagemagick's compare)
I still can't realistically hear a difference between a FLAC and a MP3 V0 but w/e

>>62333795
if it's double blind do they get triggered twice?

I wish there were more AAC Bluetooth headphones rather than "lossless" AptX
I wouldn't have to carry an entire collection in flac to avoid double-compression

>>62333995
all those precious supersonic frequencies
wandering in the dark

i am having a hard time browsing this thread, the extent these autismos go to reach hi fidelity is astounding, it's like they see themselves like a monk trying to achieve nirvana.

i bet these dudes will have their first born, born in negative decibles just to preserve his or hers perception of audio. unless you're daredevil I don't think any normal human will be able to benefit from this shite

>>62333935
>0-18MHz region
DC to 18kHz?
>comparing spectrograms
Time-frequency analysis is never as straightforward as we like it to be.
Looking at the spectrogram directly isn't useful and is missing the point. The usefulness of a lossy coder is make use of auditory masking that suppresses the induced artifacts from quantization.

>>62333995
>double compression
You're being stupid. Really stupid.

>>62334076
>>double compression
>You're being stupid. Really stupid.
No, you. I wish there were AAC-enabled headphones rather than AptX ones. On AAC-enabled headphones, an AAC is delivered as-is.

>>62332793
Why even get such an advanced sound system if you haven't even an acoustic room?

>>62332694
Go fuck yourself with your 24/192 DAC

>>62334193
>no 32/768
why even have ears

>>62334076
>Looking at the spectrogram directly isn't useful and is missing the point.
It's not if I'm looking at which codec is being able to deviate less from the source. AAC and Opus are both a huge improvement on MP3, and it can be demonstrated this way. AAC is also more "true to source" in the relevant audible range. Psycho acoustic arguments concern a different set, game and championship.

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I have a $250 DAC and yea I'm better than you

>>62334251
Good goy

>>62334076
>two lossy codecs applied in successions are commendable
sometimes I envy people with shit ears like yourself

>>62334251
>Needing a DAC in the first place.
>Not only listening to vinyl & reel tape.

Anyone has that picture with all the high grade audiophile equipment connected to the dirty public power grid?

>>62327851

This is extremelly LOL

>>62334251
God I wanna skull fuck her

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>>62334406
>listening to actual sound waves
>not imagining sound better than earthly possible

>>62334165
The audio signal can withstand a fairly large degree of impairment, as far as a straight SNR metric is concerned. This has been true for all of the last 25 years. Codec losses are worst a minor inconvenience as compared to the linear errors, even with the re-quantization.

>>62334244
>It's not if I'm looking at which codec is being able to deviate less from the source
>Psycho acoustic arguments concern a different set, game and championship.
Perhaps I am reading it the wrong way, but I can't put these statements together.
I'll read through that thread in a bit.

>>62334315
Every time someone says this it usually ends up with the person calling me the turboautist audio nerd or something at the end.

>>62325712
Anthony Bourdain is really looking worse for wear.

>>62328782
Cool, someone found a use for the shittiest system.

>>62326663
kek

>>62334594
cannot unsee

>>62334263
It was free for me

I have a 1200 usd tube amp which I had to clear through customs couple of years ago, and couple of high end sennheiser headphones and beyerdynamic 990 (which sucks) . I don't know what the amp is supposed to do (other than power the phones), because my current solid state JDS o2 amp seems to do the same job, in much smaller package, more practicality (no need to wait 10-15 minutes for tubes to warm up before connecting headphones), it just works and does the job. I'm actually thinking of buying a second o2, one with 1x-3x gain switch, instead of the 2x-5x gain switch my current one has.

>>62326912

I'd hit it.

>>62327851

All of that to play 192 kbps .mp3's purchased off of iTunes

>>62326912
Why do they need early warning radars

>>62323454
They look like tentacles

>>62332898
Those looks like some modded senn6xx ? I doubt they're that good, audeze 2/3 or some high end hifiman is where it's at

>>62334187
yep, and not even a cover to hush the direct needle noise

>>62333196
https://www.toneboosters.com/tb_morphit_v1.html

this will make them even better

>>62335093
to monitor the plebs approaching the house

>>62328110
People buy this shit?

It's fucking digital. It either works, or it doesn't.
There will literally be no performance difference of a 2M silver plated "Diamond HDMI" vs the $7 Amazon HDMI cable.

>>62323350
Am lyfe whois wer ?

>>62335093
>he doesn't have his own OTH scanning radar
>not being notified the instant a nuclear launch is detected

How does it feel to be in the 1930s?

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>>62335607
mate
people buy sata conditioners, special audiophile nas systems with approved switches and routers and 'specially treated' drives
there's listening tests of different networking hardware now
don't believe digitalizations stopps the audiophilia

>>62325997
>Not listenng to music only to hear your gear

>>62335667
Much more comfy than being in the 1960s.

>>62335674
>people buy sata conditioners
I give up.

>>62323815

We need to nuke Sweden ASAP.

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>>62335727
I'm not kidding

>>62334550
>I'll read through that thread in a bit.
It's not addressed in that thread. Fact is, if you compare (with graphicsmagick or imagemagick's tool) how much same-sized AAC/OPUS's spectrograms deviate from a (true) FLAC source, you'll see that they'll be consistently 20x better than MP3 (at the same size). At least, this occurs using their best settings. We can argue that a lossy codec could be 100x worse than the FLAC source and still be a good codec if it can mask artefacts efficiently. Anyway, ceteris paribus, a codec which deviates less has to mask artefacts less and is overall more "true" to its source. Sure, it's theoretically possible to craft a codec which deviates 0.0000001% from the source and still play worse than a 32 kbps MP3. But we have to assume that AAC, Opus and MP3 try their best not to introduce audible artefacts, using "mask" and psycho acoustic as a a backup tool.
IF we assume this, AAC-LC is still better than OPUS in the 18kHZ range, while OPUS represents minimally better the waveform if we include supersonic frequencies and the like.

>>62331749
what is this faggot doing
is he epileptic

I prefer my music 224kbps mp3 or higher, no reason to go all snobby with some flac shit.

>>62335781
he's enjoying music, can't you see?
true love is indistinguishable from true pain

>>62335799
flac is for storage and storage is cheap. no reason not to keep a flac archive.

>>62323340
this is snek

>>62323364

Real studio engineer lmfao at your life.
Main neve and ssl.

>>62331749
I doubt the ultrasones are good, their previous model look kinda shite http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=1053&graphID%5B1%5D=863&graphID%5B2%5D=2871&graphID%5B3%5D=3221&scale=15&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

>>62327594
An acoustic audiophile grade floor mat that refines sound waves when you sit on top of it and enhances your hearing perception with micro-crystal fibers that suck in high frequency out of your body to convert it into audible sounds and redirect it all the way up your rectum to your brain increasing the quality of music.

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Audiophiles are snake oil customers. Once you have good monitor speaker setup it doesn't get more hifi than that. Most of these people are old guys with lot of disposable income. Would make sense if they were musicians and people who actually know what is happening with the music they are hearing in the first place. But I guess it's a hobby just like expensive cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJJy6VJvSCk

>you see these sticks... they enhance the audio vibrations... 2500$ piece...

>using AKG K712 pro at home
>go to gym
>carry a tablet with a 32GB SDCard and a collection in flac
>insert pic related BT ear-rape phones
I die a little every taim
can't wait for my new blue-tooth ear-rape phones
sadly wired earbuds just don't cut it (I've tried)

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>>62336361
forgot pic related

>>62334555
Damn she's gotten thiccer
Time to go fap.

>deluding yourself into hearing some sound quality that is PROVEN not to be audible
There's a word for hearing things that aren't there. Mental Illness.

>>62327100
That's probably real hearing damage which can't be replaced. I have tinnitus as well from years of playing music and using headphones daily. It doesn't bother me, I can hear almost normally and can sleep very well. It gets worse if I have headache, flu or increased blood pressure. Sometimes my ears seem to scream lot but I have learned to separate the sound in my mind so it's pretty much like hearing your own breathing, it's not external as someone already pointed out. I'm pretty sure lot of normal tinnitus issues (unlike yours which came from explosion...) can be attributed to wax buildup and probably virus infections as well. I'm sure it's not just well researched in medical community. Anyways what else could they do than prescribe antibiotics which are useless.

>>62336463
Meant to reply to
>>62323350

What's a good way to test the SPL of my headphones?

>>62336463
you'll find quite a lot of people who will claim they'll be able to spot subtle differences above the 20kHZ threshold on steve hoffman's forums. they also claim they'll be able to tell the difference between a flac and a 512kb/s m4a.

>>62324836
>"awwww shucks guys stop making fun of me for dropping obscene amounts of money on placebo"

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>>62323340
>that pic

Why even use copper cables? Why not go all-fiberoptics? Every speaker can have a built-in digital decoder that drives the speaker directly. Fuck, you can even get headphones with a digital decoder that drives them.

There's literally no need to buy metal cables of any kind these days. You can get the absolute cleanest input voltage by using a battery instead of being connected to the mains, so each device will have its own battery too.

There, non-placebo audiophilification.

No cables = no degradation.

>>62336506
If you are experienced musician or sound engineer you can certainly hear the difference between format which is lossless vs almost lossless. Sound signal gets compressed in certain way and there's a lack of certain frequencies. But of course after some point it's just psychological more than real objective difference.
But usually people who don't even play any instrument, who don't know how to learn to play a song just with their ears are mostly just bullshit wannabes and easy targets for scams.

>>62325712
>converted with youtube-mp3

What a waste of money.

>>62335764
>using "mask" and psycho acoustic as a a backup tool.
I think I am getting closer to what you are saying. I think you are approaching this from the wrong angle.

Lossy coding is based entirely on the principle of auditory masking. No one would attempt to make it workable otherwise. The value of the coder is completely dependent on the perceptual model it uses. JJ Johnston used to like showing off a track with 15-20% distortion to really drive this point in (the 13 dB SNR miracle). The lossy codecs usually have better SNR than 13 dB, but the point is the same: the quantity of artifacts are not indicative of quality.

While Opus, MP3, and AAC all have psychoacoustic coding in mind, the model used has been changed significantly for each version.

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>>62332283
Also before going autistic is that there is more of an issue how certain records have been mastered rather than an issue in the fucking sound system.
http://dr.loudness-war.info/
Comparing different releases of your favorite artists you see that about after year 2k there was a trend to increase compression (reducing dynamic range) and making each and every note sound as loud as possible. This affects so much more how the record can be perceived than any single hifi setup.

>>62336916
solution is simple: just don't listen to overproduced music in general.

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>>62336959
Yeah of course but the issue is that even with my favorite all their new releases are shit production wise. Then they release probably some kind of collector's "vinyl" which have proper normal dynamic range like what it used to be. The issue is the industry itself. Haven't compared how it's in different genres. Look at this, it's shit and it's their best album on this decade.

>>62336916
This is true, I had a vinyl rip of a song and it sounded like a completely different song compared to the CD version because for whatever reason the CD version was mastered with compression turned to 11/10.

Dynamic range compression is fucking cancer.

>>62336916

Blame A&R for the changes to mastering approach, this was their push to have a subjectively louder song on radios, and less phase issues with cd.

Best mastering is pre 90s vinyl because more dynamic range intact.

>>62337031
Yeah, the whole recording process turned into digital in early 90s I think. Protools was released in 1992 (?). But even then most of recording artists and bands used to record on analog tapes and then just mix/master it together digitally.
But I guess this is probably a trend which goes by, because looking at how the popular music is today. It's not even music as such but a parade of boobs and marketed "artists" with overproduced loops used as songs.

Does buying "better" dacs even make sense when the analog signal is uniquely defined from the digital?

>>62336903
I appreciate you didn't jump to insults as usual on this site.
Well, I'll have to dig deeper. You basically say that psycho acoustic is more important than everything.
I didn't negate that; I actually assumed that all those lossy codecs will "try their best" to mask artefacts efficiently. I conceded that it's possible to think of a codec with minimal distortion yet awful quality.
But I can't assume that psychoacoustic efficiency can save MP3 in this comparison. MP3 is really ancient compared to AAC and OPUS, so I'll just assume (reasonably, I believe) that if it's 20x less "true" to the flac source, his psychoacoustic model won't help anyway.
We could argue probably that psycho acoustic can make the sound quality of OPUS better than AAC, given that there's no big discrepancies between the two; and this also if OPUS appear "worse" in the spectrogram.
Spectrograms are something I can measure, psycho acoustic models are more difficult to evaluate I guess.

>>62337083

Try to.compute how many student s pass through S.A.E globally, yearly.

Now realize the teachers are ex students

No industry exp.

Orig inally we had people like Moog wiring up their own tech.

Now we have people clicking mouse and pressing space bar.

Good audio engineering is a black art, and the masters grow old but wipe the floor with kids. No it is not taught in "skool".

>>62337220
This applies to lot of industries as well. Traditional animation is in bad shape as well because new animators who come from art schools don't know how to draw any more. It's kinda similar.
And some crafts need the experience, you need years to train your ears to know what is going and there's tons of engineer level stuff to learn. That doesn't come from school.

>>62337188
I like to think of MP3 and other lossy codecs as the triumph of psychoacoustics. It represents a mountain of evidence that you aren't going to get anywhere without a serious attempt at weighting signal errors. Auditory masking can be extremely powerful. Sometimes the effect can be very dramatic.

JJ also mentioned how he couldn't work in everything he wanted into MP3 back then. The reference Franhofer model made back then was quite oversimplified, as was the analysis technique. MP3 has come a long since then, as have other codecs and our understanding of hearing.

Little aside, how are you setting up the spectrogram? Window and FFT bin counts mainly.

>>62329579
Audio equipment doesn't age like CPUs do anon. The PS1's DAC, if it is somehow a lesser god tier DAC, isn't less of a DAC because in two years it will be an antique.

>>62337186
Of course, just because the digital input is the same doesn't mean the analog output is the same, that's the entire point of a better DAC, getting an analog output that is as accurate and precise as possible.

What is or is not worth it in terms of making a discernible difference for audio signals is another question.

>>62323340
here is where you can find this in spades. No pun intended.

https://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/bbs.html

>>62338565
>https://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/bbs.html
>tweaker's asylum
Thanks but...I'm not a tweaker.

>>62336916
when i heard someone says something similar a few years ago about that same Megadeth album, i called bullshit. then for giggles I took my old as fuck but unscratched 1989 version of Peace Sells, my early 2000's remaster re-release that I had gotten in a boxset from a yardsale, and the new COLLECTORS EDITION one from the fanclub.

every single note showed up different in the spectrograms.
>>62337005

pantera had this going on bad too. different editions, from different countries and pressings varied wildly in sound.