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An algorithm deduced the sexuality of people on a dating site with up to 91% accuracy raising tricky ethical questions

http://archive.is/2017.09.08-023213/https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/07/new-artificial-intelligence-can-tell-whether-youre-gay-or-straight-from-a-photograph

The study from Stanford University – which found that a computer algorithm could correctly distinguish between gay and straight men 81% of the time, and 74% for women – has raised questions about the biological origins of sexual orientation, the ethics of facial-detection technology and the potential for this kind of software to violate people’s privacy or be abused for anti-LGBT purposes. The machine intelligence tested in the research, which was published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology and first reported in the Economist, was based on a sample of more than 35,000 facial images that men and women publicly posted on a US dating website. The researchers, Michal Kosinski and Yilun Wang, extracted features from the images using deep neural networks, meaning a sophisticated mathematical system that learns to analyze visuals based on a large dataset

The research found that gay men and women tended to have “gender-atypical” features, expressions and “grooming styles”, essentially meaning gay men appeared more feminine and vice versa. The data also identified certain trends, including that gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men, and that gay women had larger jaws and smaller foreheads compared to straight women. Human judges performed much worse than the algorithm, accurately identifying orientation only 61% of the time for men and 54% for women. When the software reviewed five images per person, it was even more successful – 91% of the time with men and 83% with women. Broadly, that means “faces contain much more information about sexual orientation than can be perceived and interpreted by the human brain” the authors wrote
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So certain aesthetics can linked to a person being gay.
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>>62310042
*can be
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>>62310042
yea gay face is real thing. it's been known about for a while now.
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It probably detects lesbians based on warning colouration in their hair. Gays also take better care of their hair.
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Shit, Where can I get this thing?
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>>62310091
people are even better at detecting it. you may be autistic if your gaydar is that broken.
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>>62309964
>literal uppity fags contort their faces into something hideous and unmistakable
no shit
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>>62310107
Retard.
I'm not going to go around through thousands of pictures by myself.
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FUCK

Now my college bros might find out I'm gay.
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>>62310152
Literally the first thing that came to my mind.
Good thing it's not publicly available.
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>>62309964
Can it tell if you're gay even if you don't think you're are gay?
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>>62309964
I bet it wouldn't be able to tell that I beat off to traps
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>>62310226
Was thinking this

>>62310152
False-positive :)
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>>62310059

Testosterone plays a role in facial develop. Gay men lack testosterone so it makes sense that they have distinguishable features.
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>>62309964
Kinda want to see whether it thinks I'm gay or not.

91% sounds a little more sure than even I am.
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if it tells you that you're gay and you're not gay you have to start sucking dicks that's the rules
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>>62309964
>He needs a bit to tell him he's gay af
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>>62310326
it's also why gay men go for female dominated jobs more than straight men.
testosterone makes you more likely to be interested in systems, estrogen makes you more likely to be interested in people/socializing
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>>62310374
could this thing decide once and for all if liking traps is gay?
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>>62310455
Traps not gay
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>>62310460
gays are also drawn to nerdy subcultures.
anime, computers, video games, they see these subcultures as safer for them from a young age rather than trying to keep up with chads and normal people with normal interests.
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>>62310441
Yet people that socialize make more money. Dumbass.
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>>62310460
Ahaha fucking some tight boypucci on a pile of cash right now while poor fuckers like you cry
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>>62310441

Because socialization has more emotion to it and uses less analytical skills. Emotion is an estrogen leaning trait. Gay men feel more comfortable with women because they aren't as dominate.
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>>62310460
>the average american isn't a sodomite
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>>62310107
Not according to the study

And you can assume one has autism here anyway
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>>62310557
Hell sounds like a more fun place than heaven. Enjoy no succubus.
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>>62310557
But can I still fuck boypucci in hell?
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>>62309964
So what you're telling me is Futurama accurately predicted the gaydar?

>>62310460
>And all these sodomites are the ones making six figures while your average American suffers in the streets.

Except they burnout before they hit 40 and they either live out of a van or become homeless for the rest of their life. So when you look at life time achievement we are still earning much more than faggots are. Most fags don't even live long enough to collect their social security savings either.
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>>62310374
I'd smash
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>>62310500
Are you angry?
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>>62309964
I shit you not, as a gay person I can tell who's gay just by looking at their face. I notice a massive trend in certain gays from certain ethnic groups. I would 100% believe this.
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>>62309964
>gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads
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>>62310374
I need to know what folder this should go in. Trap or not? If not, the folder it goes in is the garbage.
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>>62311153
that's just an ugly girl
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>>62310059
yeah
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>>62311065
>I notice a massive trend in certain gays from certain ethnic groups. I would 100% believe this.

Mixed people and Jewish people tend to be the most gay. I've noticed this in major cities.
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>>62309964
So if you're a bear the AI instantly believes you are straight?
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>>62310500
What does that have to do with anything, you butthurt retard?
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>>62310309
I think claiming it was a false-positive will be quite worse than just owning it.
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>>62310482
Traps are confused homos.
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>>62310455
Who are you talking to? Who is "this thing"?
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>>62309964
Gay people are more attractive. Next
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>>62311213
It doesn't really matter what they are so long as they don't go full retard and think that they're actually a girl and cut off body parts.
If they want to make themselves feminine to make them more attractive to men, then that is gay. But when they're bouncing on your dick you don't care.
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>>62311145
Perhaps saved by jaw.
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>>62311145
Blow it out your ass
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>>62311191
>So if you're a bear the AI instantly believes you are straight?

Maybe, but how many bears are actually on /g/ anyway?
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>>62311179
A lot of the gay people I've seen who are both sassy and are european heritage like italians have very curved (non-jewish) noses and small foreheads, generally like having hair very short and are usually always bottoms. Little things like that you can pinpoint. But yeah mixed people just kinda have no chill.
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>>62311260
W-why would there be any bears here? This is a human board for humans like us, after all.
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>>62310042
Yes, also pedophiles too.
Both are caused by an imbalanced distribution of endocrine provided by the mother during prenatal, which release during puberty. There's different types of it, and they affect the growth of the child mentally and physically. Usually homosexuals or trans will have obviously more feminine features, elongated fingers, or some other shit, it affects the whole body.
I don't know if it's really a gay gene though, or just a result of certain circumstances, because it does depend on both the mother and the child.
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>The paper suggested that the findings provide “strong support” for the theory that sexual orientation stems from exposure to certain hormones before birth, meaning people are born gay and being queer is not a choice.

Lol nobody except Christcucks think that gay is a choice.

You become gay from:

1) Your mother having poor health and nutrition, causing you develop poorly in the womb. (women eating soy products)
2) Having poor health and nutrition as a child, causing you develop poorly as a child. (children not being breastfed by a healthy mother or drinking soy or sugar products as a child, etc)
3) Sexual abuse or exposure to sexuality at a very early age.
4) Emotional abuse as a child from insane or unstable parents.
5) Having a single mother, negligent father or having foster parents that just want to take care of kids for the benefits.
6) Being affected by estrogenic toxicity as a child, such as BPA in plastic.
7) Being mixed race, which starts your lack of identity issues.
8) Having a poor family environment such as being raised by non-tradtional guardians such being adopted by gays or being raised by people living in a poly-amorous setting where there's no stability or structure.
9) Being the youngest and least noticed child in a family dominated by the opposite sex.

Every gay person has more than one of these things in their background. It's not a choice and its not genetic. It's growing up with major problems from the womb and into childhood.
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>>62309964
So how long till I can run my face through it?
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>>62309964
>have long nose
>have narrow jaw
>have larger forehead
B-but I have a gf and I've never been attracted to men...
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>>62311268
>very curved (non-jewish) noses and small foreheads,

This is usually due to lack of nutrition and physical activity as a child.

Gays tend to love veganism, soy products, high-carb diets, and other poor nutritional choices.
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>>62311317
homosexual is an oxymoron, because sexuality only exists between man and women. there is no "sexuality" between a man and a fence with a hole in it, like there is none between two men. sodomy is an act, a choice, even if you have desire for it.
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>>62311275
Not the previous anon but bear as in gay dudes that are larger, muscular, and slightly pudgy
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>>62311327
all of this is incorrect
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>>62311320
>I can run my face through it?

You don't need AI. You just have to look at your face structure and background.

Got a narrow face and small features as a man? You're probably gay.

Had a lot of weird stuff happen to you as a kid like your uncle touching you or being the only boy raised by women with no father around? You're probably gay.
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>>62311327
Every gay I know has been a beer loving, steak eating man who tf you hang around? Go to more rural areas.
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Very hard to guess.

Is 91% probability of success is good for a classification algorithm?
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>>62310374
Stealing this look tbqh senpai
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>>62311336
>bear as in gay dudes that are larger, muscular, and slightly pudgy

Those are the gays who werent affected by poor nutrition as a child to become rail-thin little twink fags, but were abused or neglected as children.

Every bear has a story about how he had sex at a very young age or was abused or got into a bathtub with another boy who touched him or the father just wasn't around during his childhood.
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Honestly this isn't that amazing. Google already knows your sexuality, and your smartphone knows, too. It also knows your location for the Schutzstaffel
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>>62311371
yes
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>>62311363
>Every gay I know has been a beer loving

Beer is estrogenic. Real men do not consume beer like that. Such men are fat and grow tits like a woman.
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>>62311390
>Jewish company
>SS

yeah ok libertarian
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>>62310326
>>62310441
>gay men lack testosterone
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Last time I checked the going theory for gay men was that there was a type of gene expression for a specific alleel that esentially doubled attraction to men. It was very benefitial in females for obvious reasons. DTF girls make more babies. But when it happened in men it made them attracted to men in addition and sometimes to the exclusion of women.

But they were having trouble finding out if it actually did it because there are so manything that can influence genes after the fact. So maybe it was a combo of this and 9 other things.

Love to see some proof for the
>gay men are sissy boys with no testosterone hypothesis.
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>>62311382
Please go Freud
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>>62311488
>implying a Jew would tell you things like this
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I have been told I have a lesbian face but I am extremely straight.
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that's because it's looking at facial structure which relates to developmental hormones
homosexuality still isn't a gene and is still a defect
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>>62311495
lesbian faces are usually male-looking.
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>>62311494
Some Jews are more sexual than others.
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I love when people say homosexuality isn't a defect when your desire to produce children and keep the species going is basically shut off in favor of putting your dick in a poo hole.
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>>62311503
I have a square jawline.
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>>62310500
what?
it's a fact that testosterone and estrogen influences human interests even from birth.
having good social skills statistically improves your chances of having a good career but interest in social fields are feminine statistically as well.
There's a difference between being social in a technical field and just being in a social field.
>>62311481
I think it's very obvious that people can be gay for different reasons.
Not all gay people have the same genetic predisposition identified by the research you're talking about, not all gay people are "sissies" or have interests in feminine dominated fields.

There is definitely a correlation between masculinity and homosexuality in men though, identified by this AI in facial structure as well as in a disparity in statistic trends of interests.
It's highly possible there are multiple classes of gay people, some that are very intrinsically feminine from the day they're born and those who are otherwise masculine but have grown to realize an attraction to men because of other influencing factors.
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>>62311515
Square jawlines are male.

Gay males typically have no jawline or weak jawlines.

Bears with a jawline are typically the produce of abuse or some other insanity as a child.
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>>62311371
Nope. AI needs more training
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>>62311512
Because there's such a huge shortage of humans right? We totally need MORE people on this fucking planet.
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>>62311531
>having good social skills statistically improves your chances of having a good career but interest in social fields are feminine statistically as well.

Being social in general is a good thing for every human to have. This is not a woman thing. It's just that women are typically not interested in anything that isn't social.
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>>62311554
pshh breeders amirite
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>>62310365
underrated
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>>62311512
I think people need to realize that being normal is not a big deal.
Being gay is not normal.
Both statistically and in terms of our biology, homosexuality is an anomaly.
And that's perfectly fine.
We can't "cure" it, and homosexuals don't want to be cured anyway.
Like many other defects it's just how you are and it doesn't stop you enjoying life.
People should just accept that instead of trying to force the idea that homosexuality is normal.
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>>62311557
literally what I said from the start though.
I said women are interested in social fields, not that being social is a women's thing.
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>>62311554
>We totally need MORE people on this fucking planet.

We need less niggers. If we didn't have niggers, who typically have 10 welfare babies who turn into crooks, we would be fine as a population.

Nobody likes niggers.

Nobody complains about having more white people except liberals and Jews.

I bet you will look at this graph and say Blacks aren't a problem but everybody else is.
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>>62311512
I love how you have zero understanding of how biology works.

Are peacock tails a defect when they objectively make it harder to survive?
Or are they a boon because they bring in the bird pussy?

Its not babies over everything mang.

Look up group selection. It might clear up a few things

>>62311531
There is not 1 iota of proof in your entire post.

Just saying obvious is not proof.
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>>62311591
Then start breeding you moron
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>>62311591
Great, pop out some more so you can fill my quota.
t. spic
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>>62311627
I am.

Stop voting for people who support African aid.
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I think facial recognition technology should be used on r9k - then we will have a true reason to be called 'robot'

When you post instead of being labelled anonymous, the software determines and labels your disability: depressed, massive asymmetry, homosexuality, or just plain being melanin-enriched. Then we can truly reach out to each other and stop the charade of calling each other beta. There is a spectrum of disability and we should target each one for ridicule deliberately.
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Not a gay man but why is this even useful?
I mean I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but is this where my tax dooaroos are going to?

>detecting faggots and strights so it can be used in dating sites.
Why though?
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>>62311616
>Are peacock tails a defect when they objectively make it harder to survive?
>Or are they a boon because they bring in the bird pussy?
pussy is more valuable than your own survival, we see that across many species.
animals will migrate incredible distances to mate, risking their lives constantly.

Homosexuality does not improve your species chances of survival.
In fact some species use homosexual acts just in order to get pussy.
Smaller male cuttlefish look like females so they pretend to be female and let the larger males mate with then.
Now that the alpha males are satisfied and leave, the small males take the opportunity to mate with the real females.
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>>62311591
GUYS LOOK OUT!!!

THE LARGEST CONTINENT IS GOING TO HAVE THE LARGEST POPULATION!!!!

WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING!!!

ITS ALMOST LIKE THE POPULATION BOOM IS CAUSED BY THE INTRODUCTION OF MODERN MEDICINE AND FARMING TECHNIQUES !!!
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>>62311650
Fags and fag enablers want to prove there is a gay gene. They think this face stuff proves it.

There is no gay gene. Being gay is a defect from the womb and from childhood trauma.
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>>62311662
>implying those niggers aren't being imported out of that huge continent

If we were sane they would be all be shipped back there and not given aid.
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>>62311679
Lots of aid is by philanthropists.
How about you become a billionaire instead of telling billionaires what to do with their money?
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>>62311697
Most foreign aid is via governments.
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>>62311656
>Homosexuality does not improve your species chances of survival.

Can you prove that?
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>>62311715
the burden of proof is on you.
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>>62311710
Are you disabled? Did you think to check if what he said was true before you just activated your rebut from the gut defense?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/apr/29/20070429-122223-6928r/
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>>62311317
>homosexuality is caused by soy products
I thought it was fluroide in the water?
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>>62311666
>666
Thanks Satan.
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>>62311771
I'm talking about all governments in the world combined giving aid to Africa, you dolt.
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>>62311753
How? I never claimed it helped. 99% of genetic differences do literally nothing. You claimed it was negative. My guess is that in the grand scheme its probably neutral, or like bad vision has been made near neutral by technology.
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>>62311679
I think shipping back and giving the right kind of aid would be better, as they would just stay, became somewhat productive and increase the world value.
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>>62311844
>the right kind of aid would be better

Or no aid because foreign aid actually destroys their economy by giving them no incentive to produce and that is why many of them migrate.
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>>62311850
What do you think when i mean "the right kind of aid"?
You give em education, and let em do whatever they can with it.
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>>62309964
A lot of people can do that.
About time we teach our future owners how to do that
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>>62311867
Why can't they educate themselves? Are you another liberal who treats niggers like children yet says they are just like us?
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>>62311844
no amout of aid can solve the IQ problem, unless it involves eugenics
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>>62311882
I think it will take em too long to actually literally reinvent the wheel, so wiping out the shitty culture they have there for a better one would be quite a start.

>>62311903
Less IQ just mean slower to learn, not impossible to learn.
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>>62311903
Flynn effect.
Better childhood nutrition and well structured education helps a lot.

>>62311882
They have hopelessly corrupt politicians that don't care about their population. Smarties go to other countries because there is nothing they can do to change a retarded mass that supports said politics.
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>>62311911
You can't wipe out the culture without wiping out niggers as a race. They don't magically become just like whites if they get a Western education.
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>>62311928
Of course they will not become like whites, but if you compare the niggers that live in america with the ones that live in africa, you will see quite a difference.
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>>62311935
They are both terrible in their own right. I'd even say that American niggers act worse because they have everything Africa is missing and still create problems.
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Why aren't you linking to the paper instead?
https://osf.io/fk3xr/
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>>62309964
Yeah physiognomy is real. We have known this since the 19th century.

Also can you make an algorithm that predicts criminal behavior?
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>>62309964
Now this is science others and I can deny.
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>>62310042
>>62310059
>>62310326
Cookies, man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnDzBbTPAro
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>>62311911
>Less IQ just mean slower to learn, not impossible to learn.
It doesn't mean only that but even the time difference is a big deal
Lower iq also means more mpulsive behavior and lack of hindsight in favor of instant gratification and less thinking in general

>>62311927
It does help but it will never get to the level of the West or asia
You can't just import our political system there and except it to work

Low iq populations need strong hierarchical structure and harsh law enforcement for their societies to work in harmony
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>>62312010
>wide faces are straight

Everybody knows this. Wide faces are also the most healthy.
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>>62312015
>Also can you make an algorithm that predicts criminal behavior?

We did this before computers were invented.
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>>62312015
Racistware.
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>>62312066
idk.
The generic lesbian looks cute.
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>>62312015
Yes and this has been done: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602955/neural-network-learns-to-identify-criminals-by-their-faces/

It predictably received a ton of pushback from SJWs that the research was supporting "scientific racism" or some nonsense.
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>>62310326
But if I'm gay and chiseled like hercules what the fuck does that make me then
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>>62310326
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>>62312096
>that filename
Wut
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>>62312096
Sexuality is affected by testosterone and other hormones very early on in development. How much testosterone you have as an adult is irrelevant. (Which is also why trans people don't just become the opposite gender completely just by taking hormone treatments.)

Also those dudes are quite likely on steroids to begin with.
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>>62312113
It's 2017 and we can use emojis in filenames now. They are calling it the greatest development in computer science since the invention of internet porn. Soon we will get emoji urls. Get the rights to .com while you still can!
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>>62309964
>gay people look like faggots
Oh my, how surprising.
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>get a little Bayesian on this one...
1.6% of americans are gay or lesbian
if this has a 91% accuracy, and it identifies someone as gay or lesbian what is the probability that they are actually gay or lesbian?
so 0.91*0.016/(0.016*0.91+0.894*0.016)=0.5
so..if it identifies you as gay or lesbian there is about a 50% you actually are. can flip a coin and get this same rate, what's worse as another gay redditor points out the probability is better if you just guess straight all the time that test has a 98.4% accuracy
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>>62310059
>gay face
lost
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>>62312211
>what's worse as another gay redditor points out the probability is better if you just guess straight all the time that test has a 98.4% accuracy

Read the paper, not the article written by some mathematical illiterate. They use AUC which picks a bunch of random gay people and a bunch of random straight people, and measures how many were guessed correctly. So the accuracy of always guessing straight would just be 50%. An accuracy of 91% means you are doing significantly better than chance.

Second your math is wrong. Getting a ratio of correct:incorrect of 91:9 on a 50:50 dataset, means your test increases the odds by a factor of 10. So imagine there is a 16 to 984 odds someone is gay. A positive on this test would increase those odds to 162 in 984. Or about 14% probability.

Which is still low, but nevertheless 10x better than chance. And the people it misclassifies may be unusually feminine straight men, bisexuals, or other outliers.
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>>62310326
every single time people fall for this bait in droves.
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>>62309964
Would be fun if it turned out that it basically detects earrings.
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>>62311791
Plastics, pesticides,... and pollution in general certainly have an effect
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>>62312211
>>62312460
Also a better article by the economist on this story claims this:

>However, when asked to pick out the ten faces it was most confident about, nine of the chosen were in fact gay. If the goal is to pick a small number of people who are very likely to be gay out of a large group, the system appears able to do so. The point is not that Dr Kosinski and Mr Wang have created software which can reliably determine gay from straight. That was not their goal. Rather, they have demonstrated that such software is possible.
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>>62310326

But I'm a massive faggot and I really enjoy my job as a back-end developer.
I mean I do have an interest in the design side of things too, but mostly enjoy building stuff.
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>>62311317
>It's growing up with major problems from the womb and into childhood.

Then why do so may species exhibit homosexual tendencies?
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>>62310326
Not quite. There are multiple types of testosterone. The gay bear types have plenty of testosterone. The feminine gay types lack many.

The feminine straight lacks some testosterone. The HARDGAY mode straight guy has plenty.

The problem isn't lacking of having many of testosterone. Its lacking certain testosterone.
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>>62313029
>Then why do so may species exhibit homosexual tendencies?
lack of IQ
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>>62313029
instincts is just to fuck, not differentiated their gas to it yet but humans are
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>>62309964
>a literal gaydar
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>>62313029
>Then why do so may species exhibit homosexual tendencies?

This only happens in captivity.
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>>62312999
>back end developer
:^)
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>>62312010
Damn, looks like I'm into lesbians, "straight" female on this pic looks like a pig... No wife for me.
>>
For anyone out there with some dev skills:

If you are able to turn this into a mobile app and sell it for 99 cents, you will be swimming in cash. Market it as a 'respectful dating tool' but you'll also get lots of downloads from kids wanting to laugh at each other.

Oh and if/when Google/Apple shuts down the app for being hateful everyone gets to laugh at them.
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>>62313441
False
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The world is over.
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>>62312010
>straight women smile more
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>>62309964
the real question is, how do I tell if I have a gay face?
>large forehead
>long nose
>narrow jaw
this is making me doubt my heterosexuality.
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I'm curious how it performs on other datasets, like candid pictures of people in the street. That seems to be the application case that most people are thinking about anyway, but the dataset in the study was from dating sites. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the accuracy fell away when people were just trying to look innocuous rather than sexy (for the particular gender they're into)
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>>62312010
>gay faces look more hygienic
breeders btfo yet again
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>>62314411
a dating site is an obvious place to go as everyone there would have accurate information of whether a user is gay or straight
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>>62311317
I'm going to have to call a [citation needed] on all nine of those claims
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>weaponized gaydars

You can shit on the future all you want, but at least it's fucking hilarious. 2018 is gonna be an interesting year.
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>>62311515
I want a square jawed gf so we can form an alpha domineering power couple t b h
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>>62309964
>search top pixels for vibrant hair dye
Wow great algorithm, so impressive
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>>62311211
It's wrong 1/5th of the time.
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>>62310326
fuck off with your bro-science
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>>62310455
Traps are gay
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>>62311320
You're gay anon, saved you that scan
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>>62311488
>1488
>1488
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>>62312010
>glasses are gay af
mole people btfo
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>>62311591
also >>62311662
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>>62311281
>Both are caused by an imbalanced distribution of endocrine provided by the mother during prenatal
>I don't know if it's really a gay gene though, or just a result of certain circumstances,
you are a clown, babbling around like that and not noticing your own contradictions its called a fucking parrot.
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>>62316617
you are surprised?
people don't even know what a gene is or what it does
most people seem to think it works through magic
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>>62310152
You're not fooling anyone.
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>>62311232
So you're saying that what matters is not who they are but their plan?
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>>62314339
The fact that we have made huge correlation finding machines is really going to exacerbate the fact that people are unable to distinguish correlation and causation.

What is and isn't overtraining is going to be a political topic for the coming years.
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saying it is correct 81% of the time is meaningless, if you have a population of 90% straight men and you guess straight all the time you'd have 90% accuracy
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>>62316898
you can go back to plebbit now
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this is bullshit i was completely straight and wouldnt go near a dude until i turned about 23-24
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>>62316937
what the hell happened.
>>
>fta: 'The data also identified certain trends, including that gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men, and that gay women had larger jaws and smaller foreheads compared to straight women.'

So essentially if you look like the opposite gender or if you don't look like most straight people you're gay.
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>>62316951
I'm not real sure but i became bi.
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>>62316985
did women ever fuck you before that?
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>>62316927
Stop projecting, anon. And start funposting intelligently.
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>>62317009
yes i had 5 partners over the years that were all female
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>>62309964
>2020
>go out of your basement
>pass through security camera on the street
>camera identifies you as a pedo
>automatically added to the watchlist
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>>62316981
I ran a study on the food in my kitchen. It turns out that if something was slender, slightly curved, and has yellow skin, it was more likely to be a fruit than things that were not slender, curved, and yellow. Therefore, the apples and oranges in my kitchen are not fruit.
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>>62317022
interesting. I experimented with men at that age but stayed straight. Sexual experience with a guy was like a mechanic trying to break a frozen piston or something. not enjoyable
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>>62316427
That's surely because hipsters are gay
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>>62317089
>having a pedo face in the first place
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>>62309964
there's no "gay gene"

being gay is a decision. if it were a biologic treat, evolution would have killed them thousands of years ago. if they can't reproduce, they can't pass their genes.

you can do mental gymnastics to try to prove your political views, but you can't refute reality and truth.
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>>62317249
>Implying gay people can't reproduce
What?
>>
You just know they will (((shut this down)))
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>>62317249
1) Gay people can reproduce. If you forbid being gay and threaten them they are even more likely to try and fake being hetero and reproduce.
2) If societies with gays do better than societies without them, then even without them reproducing the gay gene will be passed on. And the society will eventually dominate.

>>62309964
It was a dating site. The people put up photos in attempts to make others interested in them. A lot of those will be different from normal photos. I remain skeptic.
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>>62311656
Homosexuality occurs at its current rate because there are certain advantages to increasing your own genetics even if you're a gay. Later sons tend to be gay. Helping your siblings and nephews/nieces survive betters your chances of preserving your own genetic information because they share a 50-25% of your genes. Neurologically its identical to why sterile grandparents live so long and help raise their grandchildren even though they at most share 25% of genetic information.
If you're not busy chasing after purdy its easier to be useful to your genetic in group.
Obviously there are some resource optimization factors that explain why it's be ideal for preservation of genetic information for the 4th son to not want to mate yet not be infertile just in case
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>>62316617
Or you're just a fucking idiot? I've read lots of studies on this, but to this day it is unclear whether there is a genetic factor for the mother causing poor endocrine distribution, whether that is a defect, or whether the child has some influence on it. We already know that there ARE genes that correlate with homosexuality, that feminine the subject, which have survived for generations because they ironically attract females more. But that's not a "gay gene" it's more of a "feminizing gene" and like I said, that would make the homosexuality more of a result of circumstance than a direct cause of the genes. It's ultimately down to how you define things.

I'm sorry you're too much of a stupid faggot to understand this stuff
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>>62318008
Or just because we killed natural selection.
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>>62311403
If you knew anything about history you'd know that Israel was pro-hitler until 1945.
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>>62314766
With five images the accuracy is over 90% for males
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>>62311317
Yep 1-6 I like cute boys
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>>62311275
Bears are down with human technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysZ3I1tEets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d13xbdyPAU
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>>62311753
Lol, no it's not. That's not how science works, autist
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>>62318113
To add to what you said, it's also unclear whether poor endocrine conditions are caused by BPA and other chemical pollution, so it may not even be genetic at all
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>>62315208
lol no
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but only a year ago google was having trouble telling humans and gorillas apart.
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>>62317249
>being gay is a decision
hahahah
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>>62319381
Oh Nevermind that blows I guess
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>>62310455
Falling for a trap isn't gay, staying after you found out it's a trap is gay
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>>62317249
>being gay is a decision.
usually it's the opposite, they become gay when they're raped at a young age by a man
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>>62309964
inb4 60+% false positive rate
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>>62312010
I knew gay men were more hot than straights but I'm surprised the same applies to women
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>>62320244
Literally this. Why is it so hard?
>looks like a woman
>you're attracted to a woman (or something which is indistinguishable from a woman) => you're not gay
>has a dick
>you're attracted to and/or want to fuck something with a dick => you're gay

This of course assumes the trap doesn't look like an obvious trap, but some of them can be really quite good. (No, I'm not speaking from experience.)
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>>62311697
>How about you become a billionaire instead of telling billionaires what to do with their money?
Because what they're doing is hurting people more than helping them. Sorta like how importing Somalis to MN, where I live, has caused a fucking ton of violent crime, esp. against gay men and women. Literally nobody talks about it but it's a problem.

Most people don't live near the problem though so they'll just think like you, "oh stop being an asshole." But in reality what people do has a lot of consequences on vulnerable people.
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>>62317249
Evolution is not a fertility optimizer. Humans have actually lost several evolutionary adaptations that make made our evolutionary ancestors more likely to have children more often.
>Women ovulate once a month at maximum and much less with reduced nutrition, compared to near daily for animals like chickens
>Women typically give birth only to a single child, rather than a litter
>Women show no outward signs of fertility like dogs going into heat
>Men have hydraulically actuated penises, unlike all other primates and most mammals, which have penis bones that eliminate the potential for ED and make copulation quicker and more likely to end in success
All in all, humans did not evolve to have sex rarely or have children constantly. We evolved to have sex often for its social benefits, but only have children rarely so as not to exhaust the limited resources available to hunter-gatherer tribes in the human evolutionary environment.
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>>62317249
why don't you give it a go then if it's such an easy choice
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ITT: Post your face and let other people judge if you are gay. I'll start

PS: I'm the handsome guy on the right
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>>62309964
It's a bad/irrelevant AI paper, but it's not an AI paper in the first place: it's a psychology paper. And as a psychology paper it's rather good. Of course """scientists""" whose fee-fees were hurt were very quick to call this "fake science" and "a waste of money" and "dangerous".
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>>62321926
fuck off /pol/
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>>62322576
I don't come from /pol/ I come from reddit :P
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>>62322633
same difference at this point, even if you're baiting (which you probably are)
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>>62311317
What's a "lack of identity issue"?
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>>62311317
Actually most science believes that homosexuality is a choice and that homosexuality is merely inherently more likely based on genetics, not a given.
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>>62323098
It's when you don't have a strong identity (for instance, you're mixed race, so you don't really feel like you belong to either of your parents' races) so you make up special snowflake status, or "experiment" with your sexuality, etc.
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>>62322633
>reddit
go back to plebbit
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>>62309964
how the fuck does determining if someone is gay or not based on facial expression related to genes.
I can if someone is gay or not by how the talk alone with high accuracy.
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Imagine this being implemented in the hiring process at tech companies.
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>>62310455
being a trap is
fucking a trap isnt
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>>62323145
Uhhhhhhhh what are you on about?
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>>62309964
>adapt it for use it on fetus ultrasound images
>people abort their gay children
Thank you "women's "rights""
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finally we'll know whether liking traps makes you gay or not
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>>62309964
>>
>>62323343
Go have sub-0 IQ somewhere else.
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>>62323378
>Anglo
                                                                          qual o nome dela
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>>62324592
Sistema-chan.
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>>62324936
Anglo-chan makes more sense tbqh
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>>62313790
Same, the lesbian looks kinda chill while the straight woman looks like every "look how southern I am" girl I went to high school with.
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>>62317249
Being "gay" is a modern concept most fags had kids and had no problem pounding their wives even if they liked dudes more. It became an identity when your life became ruined when people found out you liked to suck a dick.
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>>62313029
The same reason so many species exhibit congenital defect tendencies. If every species had some members that are born blind, without legs, etc. we wouldnt conclude that the former are normal, or that their way of living is normal, or that they wouldnt be better off being able to see or walk, or that they must share into some kind of "blind/no legs" identity.

Captcha: Walk Scan
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>>62317022
You probably just became a complete manslut
>>
>>62316617
How is any of that contradictory?
>>
>>62317249
Pretty much this, you can be conditioned to like it more in your life but you can't "be gay", it's not a switch or something. sodomy is a choice, you CHOOSE to have sex, just like straight sex is a choice.
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>>62312010
Straight looks a '''lot''' older. Is there a statistical bias against older people who are less likely to report being gay?
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>>62311242
Gay
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> invent something genuinely fascinating

> all people can think about is being oppressed
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>>62325803
The median reported age as well as the age range are basically the same (you can read the paper for more details) so that doesn't seem to be the case.
This is the correct kind of questions to ask with regard to this study, however. Unlike the trash the critics are currently throwing around.
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>>62309964
>deduced
>used induction to guess
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>>62311260
im here
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>>62312010
I wonder if the AI is being tricked based on the makeup women choose - it might do better if the women were told to remove their masks.
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>>62326368
The data was chosen using a series of heuristics to remove 1- non-front-facing photos and 2- non-neutral faces (hopefully removing overuse of makeup) among other things. The photos were mostly scraped from dating websites for the main set.
>>
So when will the program be released? I want to test myself and see how gay or not gay I am. Sexuality has been very confusing for me the last couple of years.
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>>62311656
>Smaller male cuttlefish look like females so they pretend to be female and let the larger males mate with then.
>Now that the alpha males are satisfied and leave, the small males take the opportunity to mate with the real females.
that's fucking genius
>>
>>62312010
So according to this.
I am gay but have already a wife and children?
>>
And yet nowhere in the paper can I see it mention specificity.
>>
This could have useful applications for iPhone security, i.e. it will only unlock the phone if the camera detects enough gay facial traits
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>>62317249
literally WHY would anyone make a conscious decision to be gay?
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>>62311662

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa
First Paragraph:
>Africa is the world's second-largest and second-most-populous continent (the first being Asia).
>second-largest
>second
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>>62311662
nuke them
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>>62311591
Go back to /pol/
>>
>tfw someone will develop a program to iterate through facebook profile pictures, collect all profile picture - name pairs that equal faggot and post them onto a public database
thanks technology
>>
>>62329332
this
I'm pretty sure gays in Russia and other places like that CHOSE to live in constant fear of getting beaten or even killed.. that must be it.
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>>62311260
>how many bears are actually on /g/ anyway?
Son, you don't wanna know.
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>>62330408
stop listening to SOROS propaganda with his MUH GAYS GOT KILLED IN RUSSIA, LITERALLY THE WORST PLACE TO LIVE, you fuckin bigot.
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>>62330457
what the fuck is SOROS
>>
>>62330437
tfw you are a 24yo virgin closetted bear and shitpost on a technology board
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>>62309964
>GAY GENE
>gene
cameras can read my chromosomes D:
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>>62330546
>what the fuck is SOROS
an OS better than gentoo
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>>62331665
oh, so it's nothing
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>>62323145
Influenced largely by environment != choice.

It's probably a mix of genetic and environmental factors. But like many personality facets and social predispositions, after a certain point they become crystallised. So person A becomes gay in timeline 1 through living a certain life. In timeline 2 person A becomes straight through living a certain life.
At age 25 say, person A has fuck all chance of being able to choose to be their opposing orientation at will. It's already set. So, insofar as that goes - it's not a choice.
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>data taken from dating website

Sample bias. Perhaps the good-looking (feminine) women the the good-looking (masculine) men don't need to use a dating website. That leaves average- or below-average-looking people in the sample.

Since dating is easier for gay men and lesbians (look it up) it further depletes the average- and slightly-below-average-looking people in those categories.

So the gay and lesbian people on dating websites are uglier than the straight people on dating websites.

Also note that the composite average image of the women is an overweight woman, another sign that suggest dating-site populations are heavily skewed.

Basically the researches came to their conclusion because of sample bias. They should have used Facebook images, because Facebook users represent a better sample of the general population.
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>>62312066
>flabbasaurus rex tells us his fat face is the most healthy
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>>62316899
i present the reply of the thread award to this individual
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>>62310042
yeah, that's why women always complain about the hottest guys being gay
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>>62311554
There's a shortage of competent breeding humans, unless we find some way to raise the competency of the ones breeding there will be problems.
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>>62311662
The largest continent which wants to leave en masse for EU gibs and which finds new ways to starve itself and blame it on whitey every day (whispered in its ear by you know who).
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>>62309964
Install SorOS.
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>>62325883
Second. A fascinating expression of machine intelligence fetching from a deep neural network..reduced to "wah, I'm being oppressed" bullshit.

These guys are making meaningful contributions to math and science and this thread is the best /g/ could come up with.

Sad times.
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>>62325749
>assertion that the cause is some type of problem during prenatal meaning NOT FUCKING GENETICS
>now he doesn't know WHAT THE FUCK IS HIS PROBLEM!

>>62318113
>Or you're just a fucking idiot?
no, you

>We already know that there ARE genes that correlate with homosexuality
JUST FUCKING READ WHAT YOU WROTE IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT! OMG

i don't give a fuck about this topic you piece of shit, you ignored my comment pointing out your blatant contradiction and then you respond with this shit diving more into something i was not talking, just kys and learn not to contradict your self.

In addition i will say that the gay gene mith has been debunked all over the world and your whole concept of gaines is based on stereotypes, just bravo! Also i will point out that transsexuals are mentally hill persons an illness that can appear in what ever period of your life, usually it appears in moments where you are passing though massive changes putting a lot of stress charge on your brain meaning something going wrong is very probable. People at risk are, kids, already crazy people, depressive persons, old people.. and (you)
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>>62333720

Shilling is bad, your genetics are bad, and you should feel awful.

The concept of toxics interrupting important genetic/endocrine functions is not novel. Look up the "makin' the frogs gay". It's more than a meme.

Don't use google or firefox though. They might filter some of the results as "fake news".
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