/tpg/ CIA nigger edition

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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

>>62308855
you fucker I keep thinking about getting one to see if they're as good as you say they are

>>62308610
>>62308644
I'm not familiar with available cleaned BIOS for the x230t, but the FRU's I was looking at were 60Y3303 and 60Y3305, labeled as Foxconn and LiteOn. They hook in to the daughter card connector. Not sure what the chipset would be in either of them, which is partly why I asked. Some ebay postings have photos of ones with BCM92070 stickers.

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One more time.
X201 USB flash drive bootable image for BIOS whitelist removal
6.4MiB
https://mega.nz/#!jpY10JoZ!rCnxS0yg3YB3l5Hcs4SbQC-XVqhPf4v98Y3SMlMOpXM
Replacing BIOS.WPH should let you use it with other models using a Phoenix BIOS without an optical drive. I made it by extracting the filesystem from the El Torito bootable CD Lenovo provided for official BIOS updates and putting it in a subdirectory on a relatively barebones FreeDOS install in QEMU. After changing FDCONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to stop it from loading anything into high memory/stop it from using any extenders of any kind, I successfully flashed the BIOS on my X201 and removed the whitelist without a Windows install.

lovin' dat soft rim.

If I get a 1366x768 screen on a T420 is it possible to swap in a 1600x900 screen?

>>62308995
So you can't see the name stamped/pad printed/whatever onto the largest IC on the card?
If the cards were both offered with the x230t, they probably have about the same capabilities.

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Hey /tpg/, my x230 should be coming in the mail tomorrow. This is probably the last day of use for the shitty Toshiba laptop I'm posting from right now. Was wondering if it should be easy enough to pull the hard drive from the Toshiba and put it into the x230. It's still in good condition according to Crystaldiskinfo and 128 gb of an SSD is BARELY enough.

>>62309174
Yes, but if you have winblows it'll throw a shit-fit about being 'unlicensed'.
Also it might BSOD due to different drivers/chipsets/whatever.

If you run a decent OS (a linux distro), it'll work just fine. Speaking from experience.

>>62309209
more info:
with windows HDD swaps, very similar hardware usually works fine.
Make sure both are agreeing in the BIOS about what HDD access mode to use (AHCI or "IDE").

Lads I tried to give thinkpads a try but they weren't for me. Got a Acer Aspire E15. The full HD screen and battery life sold me. Might get a T430 later on though.

>>62308842
Why is the image so artifacted??

For any novices to /tpg/ here is a quick run down

>xx20 series ie x220, t420, t/w520 are the last models with the IBM 7 row design keyboard
>can coreboot t420/520 to get ivy bridge CPU support
>can stick alienware IPS screen into t420 albeit the panel is semi rare now
>x220 can have an IPS screen to replace it's god awful TN panel
>xx30 series (t430, x230, t530 etc.) and up require whitelisting for components i.e battery, wifi card
>x220 libreboot coming this year
>you can replace xx40 series (t440, x240, t540) trackpads with their xx50 series counterparts (t450, x250, t550)

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), Dell Latitude/Precision (E6430, E6440, E7440) and P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:
https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

>xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

>EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

>Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

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>tfw stickers dropped at 6AM my time
>tfw i thought they wouldn't sell out for days, or at least not for a few hours

why live

stickerpai, please make a new small batch ("small" as in the size of the sticker, i don't want a huge sticker on my laptop) for poor souls like me

>>62309234
Any way of checking the compatibility once it gets here?

>>62309156
Yeah, don't have decent resolution photos of confirmed FRUs. I'm mostly concerned with driver or firmware issues. Windows/Linux environments.

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>>62308842
Who is the official animu girl of /tpg/?

What is the best place to find these bad boys? I've looked on https://www.neweggbusiness.com but idk if there's a better place to buy one.

>>62309253
OP is a faggot

>>62309247
Have fun being a pleb.
>>62309253
Probably been saved to an iPhone a few times. They recompress absolutely everything to JPEG because Apple.

>>62309260
X201 can also have an AFFS panel, which is pretty much as good as an IPS. The AFFS panel came with the X201 tablet.
>>62309276
>Any way of checking the compatibility once it gets here?
Yeah. Swap the disks and try to turn the ThinkPad on. If it works, congrats. It's compatible.

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>>62309300

ruby of course. she was crowned /tpg/ queen in 2010

What would the best upgrade path be for a T430?
I already installed an ssd, ram is next.

>>62309313
eBay
Craigslist
Local electronics recycler
HAM radio conventions, computer conventions, other tech conventions
Businesses upgrading their laptops and throwing old ones in dumpsters

Just some ideas.

>>62309333
>upgrade path for T430?
Get a T410.

>>62309333

if you haven't already maybe look into putting a t420 keyboard into it or getting a quadcore ivy bridge vou

>>62309137
yes but you need to replace that HD lvds cable for an HD+ cable

also get the alienware 1600x900 screen instead, better viewing angles

>>62309322
The Aspire is actually pretty good. Only thing I wish more laptops had was the thinkpad latch.

>>62308842
>IP addresses collected for your safety
what

>>62309391

Acer is irredeemable.

>>62309391
The X220 that everyone on these threads seems to be obsessed with has no latch. That's the funniest bit.
Which Thinkpad did you try before deciding it wasn't for you?

>>62309407
What makes you say that?

>>62309414
X220 and T430s

>>62309427
And what about the X220/T430s made you decide they weren't for you?

>>62309348
im not too picky on the keyboard for a laptop, if worse comes to worst ill just plut a full sized one to it

which CPUs should i look into?

>>62309427

In 2 years the solder will become brittle, your Acer device will begin to malfunction, fail to boot and eventually it will stop turning on. It will cost more than it's worth to repair. Acer is the king of using poor quality caps and solder.

>>62309442
Too small/battery life

>>62309448
My old one never had a problem for years. I just wanted to get a new one because the battery is shit even with 9 cell.

>>62309444

3630QM or 3720QM. It's not necessary but it's a great boost in performance and longevity for the device.

>>62308842
what level of sensitivity to you fags use on your clits? I run a fairly high one myself.

>>62309444
>I'm not picky about the keyboard for a laptop
Get out. You are clearly not autistic enough for /g/.
>>62309448
Don't forget the plastic shells that get brittle and snap or the motherboards that bend like iPhones.
>>62309477
>too small
Sounds like a personal problem.
>battery life
You have old crap batteries then. My X201's 9-cell battery is spectacular.
>>62309490
"Sensitivity" isn't a measure. Acceleration rate is. Windows user spotted.

>>62309490
+2 to the right on the synaptic drivers

>>62309508
The portability was nice but not worth the eye strain. The matte displays are too washed out for me.

>>62309517
>trackpoint
>synaptics drivers

You mean touchpad.

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>>62309508
>"Sensitivity" isn't a measure. Acceleration rate is. Windows user spotted.
no, gnome

>>62309530
I too prefer not being able to see my displays outside of my bedroom with the curtains drawn.

>>62309482
ill look into them thanks

>>62309544
You sound upset

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>>62309539

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Got about a third packed this night, just going out to drop them off in the mailbox.

Should be done packing the rest on Friday and over the weekend <3

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>>62309579
I do like it.

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>>62309596
MY ORDER MIGHT BE IN THAT PICTURE! FUUUUCK YEAH

>>62309596

>doxxing yourself on 4chan

When will brainlets learn?

>>62309596
When is the next shipment due in and why did you only fabricate like 8 of the fucking stickers senpai?

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>>62309611

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>>62309596
Post yfw your order just got shipped

>>62309680
Great, that means we can identify you /g/tards easier to send you to the concentration camps.

>>62309624
Check your email, if it's gone out, you'd get a shipping email.

>>62309626
What, you going to come to a /k/tard's house to try to pull something on someone who owns a collection of guns and is just aching for a chance to use them?

Although feel free to kill my roommate, total faggot.

>>62309644
Already called up my girl, restock is getting put in production.

>>62309694
Gas urself

>>62309699
I appreciate it Ai

I just wish I had a thinkpad to put it on :^)

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>>62309699
MY ORDER OF 10 XXL DRAGON DILDOS HAS SHIPPED

>>62308842
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59b0998d3ebab
Code in video ?

Why are people so excited for these stickers?

>>62310019
they validate us. and the holo shinyness bro

>>62310019
Because we've found a way to de-anonymize 4chan and people are wearing it as a badge of pride.

http://www3.lenovo.com/in/en/laptops/lenovo/v-series/c/v-series
cheap

>>62310066
Also not a thinkpad or even a chinkpad.
You'd be better off with a 10 year old Dell Inspiron than that.

My used x230 will likely arrive tomorrow. The seller claims that the thinkpad should be "fairly clean", and the product pics seemed clean other than the slight shine on the keyboard. I would consider myself to be a germaphobe and I don't fully trust the seller's claims of cleanliness, because God knows what that thinkpad's been through. Would rubbing alcohol and Lysol wipes clean and disinfect the thinkpad without damaging anything?

>>62309699
Are stickers in the next batch going to be bigger as you said earlier?
I like the current size, t b h.

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>>62310140
Yes they will be because I want to lower the 2mm margin of error's overall effect on it.
Pic related, the edge is a bit to the right.

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How can I fix the paint peeling off my T420?

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>>62310159
Thank you kind sir for selling these, im autistic for these and will probably buy more for friends because PayPal isn't fun to work with according to them (tried to use the guest option and it messed up so much he missed the last few, rip)

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Help guys. I wanna play Steam games on my X220, but my OS (Fedora 26) is 32-bit. Can the X220 handle 64-bit OSes?
>inb4 ">playing Vidya on Linux"

Screen fetch for specs.

>>62310263
Should totally be able to use any 64 bit OS my Friend

>>62310220

Scrap it all off then sand it then spray a primer on it then repaint it with some industrial black gritty paint.

The lcd panel on my x201 broke down (vertical colored lines appears randomly and dotted gray lines are blinking on the bottom of the screen).
I opened the laptop and checked both ends of the connectors yet the problem remains.

I want to buy a new panel but the ones I find on amazon are almost the price at which I bought the laptop in the first place.
>are there any "upgrades" I can make without modding?
>Are there a way to find cheaper panels (like by looking at a certain reference number rather than "lenovo x201 lcd") ?

>>62308842
I'm a little bit of a drawfag and need an upgrade for school.
Is Thinkpad S1 yoga for $250 worth it?

i5-4200U, 8gv of ram, and a 128gb SSD

I use the pen on my x220t all the time and the yoga seems to be the newer ones.

msata or sata ssd if they cost the same?

Any docking station for the x230 with a drive bay?

Should I get an X41 Tablet just for novelty? The guy posting about the X40 makes me want something along those lines.

>>62309533
No, i mean trackpoint. The touchpad is for normalfag plebs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-4180-MNU-Webcam-QTY-AVAILABLE-/311955530333

Is this a good price for a T420?

Is the x220 cpu soldered?

>>62310422
msata for muh 3 drives

>>62310752
yes

>>62310761
has anyone tried to just replace the motherboard and cpu together then?

>>62308977
Idk man, I think they're pretty good. They feel smoother when moving it around, if you like that kinda thing
>>62308855
glad to have you back

>>62310785
yes but isn't worth it because your only options are mobile dual core i5s or mobile dual core i7s (which are just slightly higher clocked mobile dual core i5s)

t420s is the same shit, go t420/t520/w520 if you want upgradeable cpu

>>62310614
https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/migr-76765

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ulv fags btfo

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>>62310859
>unplug charger
>Xfce4 power manager plugin says I have 50 days left on battery

>>62310129
If you want to go full hazmat, you could disassemble everything and take out the electronic parts. Then, you can use antibacterial wipes or spray to clean the casing and chassis parts.

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X40 anon here

Why aren't you anons using the finest Thinkpad ever made, the X40?

>small
>light
>roll cage in body
>very efficient CPU
>Linux friendly
>10+ hour battery life
>no Intel Management Engine botnet
>runs cool, w/tlp the fan almost never even turns on
>analog VGA port for pure analog video path
>travelmate battery available
>best keyboard
>no stupid trackpad
Objectively the finest smaller Thinkpad made which can still function on the modern web.

>>62310859
lol give me a while

i'll show you a 90 hour battery life

>>62310897
this

>>62308855
i love you dude

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Battery advice bro here.

First thing to remember about Li-Ion batteries is that they can only endure a certain number of "full" cycles before degrading below their specified capacity enormously, but what is a "cycle?" A cycle is defined as the *equivalent* of a full charge and discharge. If you charge your battery all the way and then drain it all the way, this is one cycle. If you charge it all the way, drain it to 90%, charge, and drain back to 90% you'd need to do this ten times for a "cycle." However, if you drain a battery all the way every time you might only get 500 cycles before it's degraded substantially. However, if you drain it to 50% and recharge each time, you can easily get 1500 cycles out of the exact same battery, and if you only drain it to 90% you can get over 5000 cycles.

OK, on to refreshing. First, take your battery and charge it all the way. Then drain it all the way until your computer turns off, and charge it all the way again. Take it out of the machine and leave it for a couple days or maybe a week, then charge it again without draining it first. It will have partially self-discharged a bit. Then drain to no lower than 40%, and recharge it. Do this a couple times, resting the battery for a couple days each time. It will massively boost your capacity.

If the above didn't refresh your battery quite a bit, you can do the more extreme procedure of putting it into a plastic bag, evacuating the air, and freezing it for a few days. Then take it out of the freezer, whack it really hard a number of times with the palm of your hand, and let thaw to room temperature before taking it out of the bag. Try the above procedure again. Make sure to monitor your computer for a couple hours after you insert the previously whacked and frozen battery in case of fire, if you get too overzealous you could damage the pack.

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>>62309033
i see you

>>62309137
don't bother, just get comfy and lear to love the terminal

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>>62309260
>coreboot
botnet

also get the fuck out of here you faggot xsauc

i bet you're suffering with less clicks you sissy tranny

disgusting faggot

>>62309397
it's a honeypot and they're going to try to get you to flash coreboot to put their virus in

>>62309699
hi you homofag

enjoyed your email message confirming the order

>>62310040
like the deep state didn't do this already

>>62310263
can't you just update to a 64 bit kernel with 32 bit compat and roll from there?

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>>62310734
I'm that guy. The X41 tablet is clunky. Get an X40 or an X41 for max comfiness.

If tablet shit is really important get a newer Thinkpad. I love the X40 series but this is my best advice even though I am a die hard X40 fag.

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>>62309300
Do you even need to ask?

>>62309300
Akaza Akari.

She always comes with fresh modded BIOSes when some anon needs them.

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>>62311134
No.

It's Lum. She is the ultimate animefu.

>>62311134
This

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A CHALLENGER APPEARS!

>>62311222

>>62311222

>>62311222

>>62311279
Lol Dell and HP are gay as fuck

>>62311279
Latitudes are pretty okay to be quite honest

>>62310964
>>62311093
>That screen ratio
Yuck

>>62311341
Their E6xxx and E4xxx are comparable to Thinkpads, but their E5xxx is shit.

Where do I get an IPS screen for my X220?

>>62311736
shit taste kys

>>62311942
IPS uses 50% more power dummy.

>>62312060
Really? Fug, I need my 11 hours idle, but my eyes are bleeding. Where can I get a slice battery to make up the difference?

>>62312107
>my eyes are bleeding
adjust your gamma

>>62312118
Like that's going to help.

X220's default screen is probably the worst screen I've ever seen on a laptop. It's garbage in almost every possible way, no matter how much you mess with display settings.

>>62312118
Can I do it in BIOS?

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Your order of 10 XXL dragon dildos has shipped!

[Worried laughter]

>>62312240
I'd say it was a pretty good deal

Will I be able to hold a t430 for about an hour in my hands, if I can only do 20 pushups(in sets of 2 with a small break in between the set, that is, 2x10 pushups)?

>>62312557
Hold in your hands for an hour...?
It's not a dumbbell.

>>62312595
Let's say, I'm in a train and standing for about an hour, and I must get work done/watch some Chinese cartoon. Will I be able to that? As noted in the previous post, I qualify as a manlet(2x10 pushups only)

>>62312620
Pushups don't correlate to height.

Anyway, if you try to do work with a laptop standing for an hour it's not going to be comfortable at all. I just picked up my T430 to test it out.
>Will I be able to that?
I don't know. Depends on your endurance.

I'm about to buy a T440s but I just realized it has a German keyboard layout. Can I change the position of the key caps (like in a mechanical keyboard) or should I just suck it up and touch type?

>>62310964
>some soldered RAM, two different quantities
>1.8" PATA HDDs
i'll settle for an X60, thanks

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>>62312687
Thank you, senpai!!

>>62312557
>if I can only do 20 pushups
holy fuck are you serious?

even at my fattest i could do 50 in one go

now i can do 200

fucking christ anon, stop eating carbs

>>62312786
>soldered ram
keeps it solidly in place, and when you solder ram it becomes 30x more efficient

>1.8" PATA HDDs
Actually I use an SSD. You can also jam a very large SD card in there if you like.

>>62312770
Same anon.
For (pretty much) the same price, should I get a T440s with 4300U and Touch IPS (so it will be 100% an AUO display) or another T440s with 4600U and non-touch IPS (risking to get an LG display)? I read that the LG displays are worse in quality compared to AUO ones, but with a non-IPS T440s you can get both, it's random.

>>62312996
>defending soldered components
i like old thinkpads too but this is just delusional. there's no benefit to the X40 over the X60.

>>62309699
>tfw missed it

I'll try for the next batch.

>>62309490
maximum

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>>62309490
maximum

pic related

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>>62312987
>now I can do 200
A-are you s-saitama?

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t40 with 6gb of ram and 160gb SSD. Don't care much about the SSD size since I use a nas for storage.

Also have a 3rd gen x1 carbon. Roast me

>inb4 windows
Developing in asp.net for my job. It's a sad life but i have bills to pay.

>>62313466
Sup Joe

Have the toaster stickers run out i tried to order some and it says they are unavailable

>>62313466
>>62313490
>two ThinkPads
>both Windows
No excuse.

>>62313498
Restock in 2 weeks or so.

>>62309353
I can't get it. I searched everywhere, ebay, aliexpress, local stores - there's nothing. Going to buy regular 1600x900 screen.

>>62313498
They were sold out in a matter of minutes. I managed to get 2 and they're already in shipping

got an x61. its pretty good. keyboard is comfy but the fucking trackpoint sensitivity is garbage

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just bought a e460 for $500 AUD new lads
cheapest laptop i could find unused with dedicated graphics and kaby lake
got a 256gb SSD too

i know the E range is frowned upon but at this price surely it was a good deal
i can even do some decent light gaymen with the 940mx

i missed the stickers
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>62313559
How do you know the other one is windows when I posted a picture containing only 1 thinkpad.

>>62313930
how do people even recognize that as windows, i cant even tell what that is?

>>62313972
you're retarded

>>62313972
Bottom left of the screen m8

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>>62308842
http://www.kupujemprodajem.com/Ac-adapter-lenovo-90w-20v-50164271-oglas.htm?filter_id=141115674

Is this fake one or geniune ?

>>62308855
How many threads ago did this post become a thing?

I have an X220 that I love and use daily, but I'd like to play a few more modern games (nothing super new, and I'm not expecting to max out any settings) at friends houses. Would a W530 fit my needs, or should I be considering something newer?

>>62314406
A W530 is the reasonable budget option. After that all the workstation models (P series) are still pretty expensive. Even the used ones.

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Can I use this charger for x220/230?
model is 92p1104

Googling this charger model I only found that is used for older thinkpad like t60.

>>62314496
Yes.

>>62314496
If the connector fits and it's either 65W or 90W you can.

>>62314520
>>62314511
Okay thanks

>>62314592
If it's 65W the battery won't charge while you're using the laptop

>>62314621
It's 90W, I own atm 65W and it really sucks having this charger because my cpu is very slow without battery.

>>62313775
E-Series are good laptops. Not good thinkpads.

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are these temps good enough for t440p with i7 4700mq? ambient temp is ~25C, after 5 minutes of 1080p youtube video playback.

>>62314797
>needing to justify your temps
Not horrible.

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>>62314797
You should be fine anon. I've got the dGPU cooler in the mail, but this doesn't throttle.

>>62314912
yea, you're right i guess.

Whats your experience with aliexpress 9cell batteries? Are they any good? Should I buy one?

>>62309699
How do you take your shit from design on paper to production? Shits cool.

Is it just me or is xsauc sexy as fuck

>>62308842
What's the best 1k eur can get now?
15" full size preffered, no memes like 4k resolution on it.

>>62309174
Just slapped my win 8.1 embedded drive from an old toshiba A110 to the new TC4400
windows literally found and installed my drivers, including the hp ones for the odd hardware

x230 or elitebook 2570p?

>>62308842
>get a new thinkpad
>windows 7 drive is fragmented as fuck and can't be properly defragmented because of locked files
>can't partition to a large enough size for dual booting linux
anyone else have this problem?

>>62315756
Use GParted bootable

>>62315756
>dual booting linux
>still wanting windnos on your machine

>>62314921
>i7 4810mq

Is that the Haswell refresh?

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>Budget:
Max 1200 euro cheaper if possible
>Location:
EU
>requirements:
i7
16gb ram
64-bit
VT compatability

Would you buy a thinkpad on fleabay from Houston given the severity of their flooding?

>>62316060
Yeah. They have drain holes.

Okay I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on a x230, but my question is spend the extra on i7 or the extra on a IPS screen?

>>62313775
this thing looks cheap. just like any acer or hp laptop but black.

is the LG LP125WH2-SLB1 an original x220 lcd panel or did someone replace it?

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>>62313559
I want to love the T400 series, but fuck the touchpad so hard.
>>62314252
Prolly genuine.
Here are pics of both of mine; The one on the right came with my X201 and the one on the left was bought new-in-box by me from Lenovo a couple years ago.
Both work fine and are used regularly; one stays at my desk and the other travels with me, with a longer cable fabricated by drilling a notch in an apple power brick cord taken from a broken macbook someone gave me.

>>62316526
>touchpad
lmao

>>62316114
>I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on an irredeemable chinkpad with a shit keyboard and 16:9 screen and no latch and a touchpad

>>62316526
>using the touchpad on a ThinkPad
I really hope you're joking.

>>62316554
I'll take ivy bridge over sandy bridge, sorry. That's what it comes down to. But your snide remark also didn't help at all.

>>62316526
is it normal that these lenovo branded power bricks get really hot when its charging the battery and powering the laptop? im worried that the plastic case will melt if it gets that hot.

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>>62316545
My laptop has no touchpad. Its presence is a curse on the T400 series.
>>62316556
I don't have a touchpad. I am saying that the fact that you can't get one without a touchpad is horrible.
>I'll take ivy bridge over sandy bridge, sorry. That's what it comes down to. But your snide remark also didn't help at all.
Bro, sandy bridge doesn't have a latch, only is available with a touchpad, and is 16:9. You're thinking Westmere/Nehalem.
All I'm saying is, your choice is shit. Hell, Sandy Bridge is even acceptable if you don't care about having good hardware anywhere else in the computer. Ivy Bridge is just a more power-efficient die shrink.
>>62316641
Kind of hot, sure.

>>62316653
>>62316577
forgot to quote you

how many € is a x200s worth? would be a nice upgrade from this x220 because it has a better screen.

>>62316526

For anyone wondering about batteries you'll run into 3 types of batteries:

1. Genuine batteries manufactured by 3rd parties and sold by Lenovo and authorised 3rd parties
2. Genuine batteries but the enclosure has been opened and the old worn battery cells removed and replaced with inferior cells then sold on ebay, amazon etc.
3. Straight up knock off with sloppy tolerances, potentially causing system failure/BSoD over time due to fluctuating voltages.

For anyone wondering about chargers:

The design and build quality changed numerous times as they sourced from different manufacturers. If you really want a genuine one then either buy it from Lenovo otherwise you're SOL and it's practically impossible to tell a knock off from a genuine one as they are all manufactured in the same facilities. You get knock offs because when Lenovo or company X ends contract with company Y they'll often just pump out the last of what they can make which is usually in the tens of thousands then sell it to local buyers or local buyers will pay them on the side to make x amount of them. If you're truly worried then get a multimeter even a cheap one will do and measure it's tolerances. A shoddy one will either have poor tolerances or it will catch fire one day.

>>62316653
I want a x230 for the processor, hardware, and efficiency, and size.

I just wanted to know if I should put my money right now into the i7 or go i5 and IPS screen

>>62316727
>nice upgrade from this x220
It's a massive downgrade in terms of performance and battery life. Not worth it. Try to find an X200s screen and put it in your X200.

>>62309699
Whats up yo u shill. When is the eta on the next shipment? Really want those. You better not price gouge the price.

>>62311341
I still love my Latitude D630.
Only thing that would make it better would be a dedicated middle-click button

>>62316751
>>62316727

Oh man, just notices you have an X220. You obviously can't put the X200s screen in there, but still, s versions are a massive downgrade

>>62316653
Why not just disable it in the BIOS?

>>62316970
because it still physically sits under your palm while using the trackpoint and the buttons still click under it. Also, the rough texture on the touch surface is BS.
First thing I did when I got my X201 was to replace the touchpad palmrest with this one.

>>62316993
I glued my touchpad in place. 100x comfier already.

>>62316746
>inferior cells
>made by same manufacturer and of the same type as the original cells
>inferior

>>62316748
The keyboard is part of said hardware. So is the shit screen and the touchpad.

If you have your heart set on a fake thinkpad, then yeah, might as well get an IPS with an i7.

>>62316771
ok. they have one in a local store here so thats why i asked. dont really know how the shipping of these work on ebay. i dont want to pay for the id card again just to get it from the post office because some tard put it in a signed letter or something else that requires id verification before they give it.

>>62317017

People buy dead genuine batteries and replace the cells in it then resell it as a genuine new battery. Practically every amazon or ebay seller selling xx30 series or older batteries on ebay or amazon are selling "refurbished" genuine batteries where they remove the battery cells and stick in very inferior cheap cells then lists it as genuine new.

>>62317074
Ah, OK.
I re-celled my own battery once and I used the proper cells.

>>62317045
I can't find IPS with i7. I asked if I should go i7 or i5 with IPS.

I asked a specific question. I did not ask whether or not I should get a x230. I've already weighed the pros and cons of various models and decided what I would like for myself and I do not suffer the same level of autism of what does or does not constitute a thinkpad.

>patch dynamic stickers sold out

fucking faggot made liek 10

>>62317230
there were like a hundred dude. if there was 10 they would have sold out in 20 secs not 15 minutes

Can I upgrade my T430's cpu?

I want put a i7.

>>62317230
Not your personal sticker slave

You deserve it for not being organised enough to get one when they dropped lel

>>62317282
>>62317252
He said it would drop on the 7th
I checked on the 7th it wasnt there.

Not my fault

also claimed it would be 3.50, guess hes just a born liar

That feel when you spend 200 maplebucks on a battery for a laptop that's worth 400 maplebucks but you dont give a shit because now your chinkpad is flawless

>>62317293
>going this far to justify your own lack of conscientiousness

Man. People have been going on about it in the thread all week. I set a reminder at way back. Then I waited till the drop time and refreshed the page yesterday evening at 6PM EST and LO BEHOLD. It was there. Apply yourself.

>>62317336
I WANT MY AUTISM STICKER GOD DAMN IT!
I need it to cover lenovo's shitty brand name

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>>62317364
Better luck next time

>>62317272

Is it a t430 or t430s? If it's the former, Yes, if it's the latter then no. Look at i7 3630qm and i7 3720qm

>>62317293
He announced it would be 6PM EST and it was. I was there, bought 2, now I'm happy.

I actually like using trackpads and I'm used to trackpads without physical buttons, will I hate the t440p's trackpad?

>>62317423
It's a T430

Thank you very much. I'll look at.

>>62313570
This seller sold me an OEM alienware panel not too long ago. Just message them and confirm they have the OEM one in stock (Should be an AUO panel) and you should be good.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-14-0-HDF-WLED-DISPLAY-SCREEN-PANEL-GLOSSY-FOR-A-DELL-ALIENWARE-M14X-R2/271883723062?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

>>62308855
The thread just wouldn't be the same without you

Is it possible to upgrade the CPU on the X230?

>>62317672

Unfortunately no, it's soldered. You aren't missing out on much though, the i5 and i7 variants for the X220 and X230 both have the same features including virtualisation the only difference is clock speed and i7 having more 1MB more cache (only helps in video encoding really). The cost of an i7 model over an i5 model really doesn't warrant the negligible performance increase, you will be better served with SSD/More ram.

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>>62317364
Don't worry babe, I'll sell you one of mine for $30

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>>62317294
forgot pic

>>62317795
Ugh, I want a w530 but I don't want to haul that to work then school then home again every day.

>>62309260
>The xx30 series can accept xx20 keyboards
>i7 xx20s usually have USB 3.0
>The battery whitelist and key differences with the classic keyboard can be sorted out with thinkpad-ec on github, which also requires no special hardware
>removing the wifi whitelist for xx30 series requires special hardware
>while removing the wifi card whitelist and fast ram support can be done without special hardware on the xx20 series you still need hardware to flash coreboot and you can't retrofit USB 3.0
>if all you need and is a better integrated in gpu but don't want to deal with things like coreboot, the xx30 is a better choice
>but if you're planning on hackintosh or just changing out the wifi card for what ever reason, the xx20s are easier

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Just got pic related for my E6430. Only $30, and battery life got bumped up a couple hours :3

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>>62317364
like this?

>>62315959
I think so, yes. Slightly higher GPU clock than the original as well, Iirc.

>>62317809
I just got a W520 and I gotta say it is a bit heavy. Mostly it's just wide AF. Coming from an X series it's a much larger screen. If the aspect ratio was a bit different it might fit better in a bag or something.

>>62317816
>and you can't retrofit USB 3.0
You can get an expresscard with a bit shittier speeds, so it's like something in between

>>62317809
I don't blame you. I carry my w510 to work everyday along with the 135W psu, it's a short commute so I don't have any problems but I wouldn't like to walk for a long time with it on my back

>>62317858
Oh yeah I forgot about that
My point still kind of stands though like, the main point of buying a xx30 is the gpu

>>62317829
Ah good to know. I know it shares the same socket, but it's not listed as compatible on the datasheet - obviously because it didn't exist then.

I'm planning on getting a T440p. If it's possible, I'd like to get an i7 4712mq to put in it since it's quad core but only draws 37w

Will be getting one of the next batch of stickers.. out of stock before I could even check. Just hope they aren't too big.

>>62317828
Yes, but text should face user, to match the thinkpad logo

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>>62317816

quick rundown pic?

>>62317672
Yes if you can bga solder one
So no not really
And considering how thin the x230 is I doubt the heatsink would even handle it well if at all

>>62317764
sent

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Hey /tpg/
Just got my x230 in the mail today. Should I be good pirating windows 7 and doing a clean install via a USB? Don't want to fuck myself over via some unforeseen consequence.

>>62317917
X230 isn't much thinner than the X220. The biggest difference is in the X240

>>62317936
downgrading from windows 10 btw

>>62317907
I hate the font for some reason and don't forget this >>62317858

>>62317917

yepp and x220/x230 already run insanely hot

>>62317938
Okay but you can't upgrade to a quad core on either plus all three have tiny heatsinks

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>>62317904
like this

>>62317936
>>62317936
Sure you should even have a key under the battery

>>62317907
Thanks for the headache

Can I turn my laptop into a desktop?
I own a W520 and the specs are perfect for me. I just want a big monitor.

>>62317956
I didn't think they'd be that hot considering the amount of airflow they've got in those huge cases.

>>62317961
Right, I wouldn't try to upgrade to a quad core in any of those three. I'd probably just aim for the best chip set available and then invest in a t4xx or w5xx series if I really wanted to go quad core.

>>62317110
Get an i7, get an IPS panel, and put it in the i7.

I've seen a handful of FHD mods for the x220/x230

Some done by the 51nb guys. I've seen piecemeal explanations on other FHD mods on how it's done but I can't get the full picture.

Has anyone did a mod themselves? Or aggregated some information on how to do this?

>>62317993
Grab a compatible dock for it bro

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/Dock-compatibility-table-for-W500-W510-W520/ta-p/400367

>>62317976
yeah looks good

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>>62317993
Sure why not
Here's what I did to my T430
I also suggest this >>62318045
Optionally you set the screens side by side too

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>>62317951

guess we can revise it over time, adding info to it. nice way to have quick run down for any novices

Dell XPS > Thinkpads

>>62317892
I'd chose the 4800. You can always limit the TDP of the 4800 to 30w, 37w or whatever but you can't get extra performance from the 4712 if you need it.

>>62318071
write it in fucking emacs jesus christ

>>62318073
Sure in some aspects

>>62318078
Honestly man it was just to get the main brunt of the benefits from quad cores while retaining some power benefits from the lower models. So if I can do that without 4712 that works. Is this easily done?

>>62317892

Get 16GB of 2133MHz DDR3L ram while you're at it.

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>>62317907
Two things.
One. Your font choice is horrible.
I recommend Unifont, or my new favorite:
https://github.com/wyatt8740/ibm3161-font

Two. the X220 should be retrofittable with USB 3.0 via an expresscard. My X201 was, anyway.

>>62317936
A Linux distro, for fuck's sake.
Windows is cancer.

>>62318103
then get the cheapest quad core you can find and limit the tdp to 37w, ez

>>62318084
>>62317989

here you do it in your format preference:

>xx20 series ie x220, t420, t/w520 are the last models with the IBM 7 row design keyboard
>can coreboot t420/520 to get ivy bridge CPU support
>can stick alienware IPS screen into t420 albeit the panel is semi rare now
>x220 can have an IPS screen to replace it's god awful TN panel
>xx30 series (t430, x230, t530 etc.) and up require whitelisting for components i.e battery, wifi card
>x220 libreboot coming this year
>you can replace xx40 series (t440, x240, t540) trackpads with their xx50 series counterparts (t450, x250, t550)>T440p can take up to 2133MHz DDR3L RAM>X201 can also have an AFFS panel, which is pretty much as good as an IPS. The AFFS panel came with the X201 tablet.>The xx30 series can accept xx20 keyboards
>i7 xx20s usually have USB 3.0
>The battery whitelist and key differences with the classic keyboard can be sorted out with thinkpad-ec on github, which also requires no special hardware
>removing the wifi whitelist for xx30 series requires special hardware
>while removing the wifi card whitelist and fast ram support can be done without special hardware on the xx20 series you still need hardware to flash coreboot and USB 3.0 is only available via Expresscard USB 3.0 that runs hot with lower speeds
>if all you need and is a better integrated in gpu but don't want to deal with things like coreboot, the xx30 is a better choice
>but if you're planning on hackintosh or just changing out the wifi card for what ever reason, the xx20s are easier

>>62318134
That's the plan then. Can I limit this in BIOS?

Be honest, how many of you have disabled your trackpoints?

>>62318156
Probably not but it's easy to do on Windows, see >>62305123

>>62318181

I only have the touchpad on my trackpad disabled.

>>62318181
Are you insane

>>62318181
>Be honest, how many of you have disabled your trackpoints?
One. You.

dell e6420 with 8GB RAM SSD and i7 for 300$ should I get it or not worth it?

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>>62318146
Made yours better without doing anything like typesetting

Still not perfect, but at least legible with non-perfect vision.

>>62318220

A little overpriced, you should be able to get that for $180-$250 max

>>62318243
should I just get it if seller agrees for $250?

>>62318220
If it is a XFR then yes

>>62318287

is it in immaculate condition? what area are you from? i'm from australia and can pick these up for $150-$225 on ebay/gumtree. If it's a local seller i'd low ball him at $200 and offer to come pickup whenever the seller has time and if he wants more then go max $250.

>>62318020

It's not worth the hassle.

>>62318320
It's in pretty good condition and I'm from Belgium. I'll try to get it for $250 and if he says no then fuck it.

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>>62318146
here ya go my man.

I can't boot from USB on my T420
HELP

>>62309699
WHERE
DO
I
BUY
ONE?

>>62318436

www.patchdynamics.net/ or just google patchdynamics

>>62318413
needs moar newlines
>>62318421
>I can't boot from USB on my T420
>HELP
What a detailed description. Thanks especially for telling us what you're trying to boot and if it's EFI or MBR booted.
>>62318436
You can't, you autist.

I didn't get a response yesterday so I just have to ask again because I'm all out of ideas.

My wife's son wants a new laptop and I was thinking about getting him a ThinkPad. The problem is that he could find the black chassis offensive since he's half black. Are the silver ThinkPads they released this year any good?

>>62318381
Just get a E6420 XFR

>>62318459
Just get him a E6420 XFR

>>62318459
1. Get an X201 or X220.
2. Get a can of silver spraypaint
3. Spraypaint the case silver.

>>62318455
>>I can't boot from USB on my T420
>>HELP
>What a detailed description. Thanks especially for telling us what you're trying to boot and if it's EFI or MBR booted.
everything's excluded from my boot priority order

>>62318421
If it has an esata combo port then you need to put the usb drive in there, I had the same problem trying to get my W510 to boot on a USB drive, only port that worked was the esata/USB2 combo. The powered usb port and USB3s wouldn't work.

NEW THREAD: >>62318476

>>62318482
4. cover dried silver paint with automotive clear coat so it doesn't rub off

Which ebay sellers sell original T420 70++ batteries? There is so many chinks, I don't know who to look at. Or should I check amazon?

>>62318483
wow, that's exactly what I didn't need to know. Thanks again.
>>62318493
For fuck's sake, we still have 11 more posts after this.

I have a T420 with BIOS 1.28 and a USB doesn't show in the boot menu. What's wrong?

>>62318520

At least the new thread doesn't have the title fucked up like past threads

>>62318637
Are you >>62318421?

>>62318146
>>62318240
>>62318413
weeb version my.mixtape.moe/kaqgls.jpg

>>62318672
yea, do I need new drivers?

>>62318692
No, did you try put the usb drive in the esata/USB combo port like I recommended?

>>62318701
i've tried every port

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>>62318709
Including this one?

>>62318731
yes

>>62318731
His problem is probably that:
a) He has CSM turned off in the bios settings
b) His flash drive isn't actually marked as bootable, either because it's missing the MBR or the EFI partition.

>>62318745
Are the usb ports working in the OS?

>>62318759
yes, I created a bootable USB drive with an OS on it using Rufus. It works on every port.

>>62318749
I used MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI

>>62313069
Lack of CIA niggers for one.

OK now time for that new bread
>>62318476

>>62308842

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mi6-and-mi5-refuse-to-use-lenovo-computers-over-claims-chinese-company-makes-them-vulnerable-to-8737072.html

lads

>>62313041
Fellow T440s owner with LG display here. The display is fine, it's still miles better than any TN display.

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>>62318073
No, no.

>>62318956
The latitudes are the only dell systems to come close, and I haven't used a Latitude I liked since the D630 in 2007.

>>62309033
Add this to thinkwiki

>>62319826
They're OK with mega links?
If so, sure.

>>62318240
Fucking ass
>>62318413
Good but it needs better colors

My T530 will be here next Friday and it will be my first thinkpad! Can anyone recommend some upgrades or changes that will enhance my thinkpad experience?

>>62319894
Try uploading it to archive.org

>>62320334
anime wallpaper
anime bios logo

So i need some advice here.
My old eee1005HA has finally become too slow to do university work or any basic office stuff and i need a new small laptop.

I looked around and what caught my eye were a new Lenovo ThinkPad E31-80 and x230.

The E31-80 has
>Intel® Core™ i3-6100U @ 2,3GHz
>4GB ram
>500+8GB SSHD
>2 cell Li-Ion battery (apparently up to 5 hours)
>1080p 13" display

The x230 has
>Intel i5-3320M 3.3GHz(guessing turbo boosted)
>8GB ram
>250GB SSD
>1366x768 12.5" display
>apparently 9 hours of battery life

They both are just under 500€. The x230 is slightly used, which means it was probably a rental pc for a company that was sold off after the rent period ended and refurbished by the store. there are also an x220 and x240 in the same price range, also refurbished, but with 4gb ram and Intel i5-2540M 3,3GHz and Intel i5-4300U 2,9GHz respectively.

The most important aspects for me are reliability, battery life and portability.

>>62320557
Thanks!

>>62320561
500€ is way too overpriced for x230, and E series is plastic garbage.

>>62320561
The X220 dude

>>62320980
>>62321159

What do you think of the x260 and thinkpad 13?