/TPG/ Thinkpad 25 is a joke edition Previous thread: >&

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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

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2nd

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>>62303382
We missed you.

>Want x2xx
>Want size of x240
>don't want to pay x250 prices or bulk of x230
Convince me not to just say fuck it and deal with the x240's track pad

You fucked up the title nigger

>>62303432
Can't you just replace it?

>>62303432
>bulk of X230
It has the same footprint but it's slightly shaped like a wedge. The X240 is 19mm thick while the X230 is 19mm at its thinnest point and 26mm at its thickest. No bulk here.

>>62303432

Just get an X230 and put the extra bucks into a 9 cell battery you cuck.

>>62303489
I'd rather have the 19mm thick x240 in my backpack than something that goes from 19mm to 26mm. That's bulk.

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Why aren't you anons using the finest Thinkpad ever made, the X40?

>small
>light
>roll cage in body
>very efficient CPU
>Linux friendly
>10+ hour battery life
>no Intel Management Engine botnet
>runs cool, w/tlp the fan almost never even turns on
>analog VGA port for pure analog video path
>travelmate battery available
>best keyboard
>no stupid trackpad
Objectively the finest smaller Thinkpad made which can still function on the modern web.

A little help please?
>>62303256

>>62303500
I don't want an x230, I'd like something a little thinner with all of the shit that I have to carry every day.

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>>62303507
>1/5th on an inch is bulky
Millennials, everybody. Let's give them a hand.

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>>62303432
It has a chinkshit chicklet keyboard, but so does the x230.

Might as well get a Mac.

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>>62303392
thinkpads are always a step ahead

>>62303576
>it's so cool to not care about saving weight and space where available

>>62303621
I've gone through my share of mac products. Never again. I'm not even a fan of OS X anymore.

Battery advice bro here.

First thing to remember about Li-Ion batteries is that they can only endure a certain number of "full" cycles before degrading below their specified capacity enormously, but what is a "cycle?" A cycle is defined as the *equivalent* of a full charge and discharge. If you charge your battery all the way and then drain it all the way, this is one cycle. If you charge it all the way, drain it to 90%, charge, and drain back to 90% you'd need to do this ten times for a "cycle." However, if you drain a battery all the way every time you might only get 500 cycles before it's degraded substantially. However, if you drain it to 50% and recharge each time, you can easily get 1500 cycles out of the exact same battery, and if you only drain it to 90% you can get over 5000 cycles.

OK, on to refreshing. First, take your battery and charge it all the way. Then drain it all the way until your computer turns off, and charge it all the way again. Take it out of the machine and leave it for a couple days or maybe a week, then charge it again without draining it first. It will have partially self-discharged a bit. Then drain to no lower than 40%, and recharge it. Do this a couple times, resting the battery for a couple days each time. It will massively boost your capacity.

If the above didn't refresh your battery quite a bit, you can do the more extreme procedure of putting it into a plastic bag, evacuating the air, and freezing it for a few days. Then take it out of the freezer, whack it really hard a number of times with the palm of your hand, and let thaw to room temperature before taking it out of the bag. Try the above procedure again. Make sure to monitor your computer for a couple hours after you insert the previously whacked and frozen battery in case of fire, if you get too overzealous you could damage the pack.

>>62303638
>1/5th of an inch is substantial
You probably have that much cum stuck to your computer from your anime habit.

>>62303784
I don't watch anime 2D shit. I'm not a weeb. I'm just a guy who's interested in getting a thinkpad for school and being able to take some work home with me.

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>>62303634
Hahaha WTF is this chinese garbage?

>>62303432
swap the touchpad faget

>>62303535
Should i get x40 or x60s? Will mostly use it for programming and taking notes. What are the pros of x40 compared to x60s, and how much worse is the performance?

>>62303539
No idea but i also needed to use a calibrated .icc profile for my IPS display, trying to use it on linux was painful and didn't work for me so i just went W7.

>>62303432
Its a really, really, really bad trackpad

less of a trackpad and more like a fingerpad really

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>tfw gradually migrating all my work to my ThinkPads for when I'm working abroad
>tfw barely used my desktop in the past few weeks

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I got all of these within a month... help me /tpg/ I think I have a problem.

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>>62303836

lt's called being forward thinking

>>62303883
Go for the X60s, or a X61/s. This guy is in every /tpg/ shitposting his obsolete machine.

The X60/1 are more upgradeables than the X40 shit.

Just for my school and research work, I decided to ditch my plans for an older Thinkpad and muh freedumbs and got a brand-spanking new T460s (goddamn thing is untouched) for $525. Even has a Windows 7 downgrade. Did I do good?

I want to put Manjaro on it for now just to get started on some work I have due soon. How do I dual-boot on a pre-loaded machine? What does my partition table need to look like? Will I be nuking the Windows boot partition? Do I need to be worried about fucking with secure boot or anything?

>>62304044
tablets are pretty based

>>62304203
hell yeah they are. I'm still torn between the two though. I like the x220T keyboard better(feels more solid under the keys, plus the large ESC and Delete keys), but the x200T can swivel in both ways, has a locking latch, and has no trackpad at all.

>>62304151
>X40 shit
>>62303883
The X40 isn't shit but it's kinda obsolete for today's tasks. An X60 can at least run a modern OS, while the X40 requires a seriously lightweight distro.

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>>62303357
6PM, boys
patch dynamics

>>62304510
limit 3 per customer, right?

>>62304553
yep

>>62304510

Nice try FBI

>>62304510
I'll pass on this one but is there any chance of a sliver or grey colored one instead of blue in the future?

Blue doesn't go very well with the matte black on the lid imo.

>>62304510
where to buy?

>>62304687
>putting stickers on your thinkpad

>>62304341
dude I wish l could afford either one of them :(
I ended up buying a TC4400 with a broken latch
still really Iike it desu

>>62304703
shut up slut

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Halp!

So, a guy in my town is selling a Thinkpad L430 with the following error:

> 02071: Real Time Clock Error - Check date and time settings.


I was wondering if It's fixable. If not, what parts can I swap to my T420 (besides the RAM/HDD/Wi-fi Card)?

>>62303535
the clit mouse is a meme. otherwise i would consider it, but im not degenerate enough to give up the trackpad

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Alright nerds what's the deal with all the hatred towards ulv processors? Are they really that bad?

I was looking into maybe getting a t440/s and modding the trackpad but I keep seeing people say the i5 4200U/4300U are ass, they don't look too bad in synthetics but is there something I'm missing?

Pic unrelated

>>62304751
CMOS battery is probably dead. It should still boot though

>>62304780

Possibly. If it's cheap and you can afford to lose the money go for it. If the guy seems tech savvy at all backout. Either cmos battery is dead or mobo has water damage.

>>62304687
dude it's holo anyway
it's gonna look Iike a rainbow

>>62304780
Sorry, the code error is 0271, and I forgot to mention that is a BIOS error

>>62304702
Iearn to read anon

>>62304702
he told you

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>>62304671
<3

>>62304687
>lid
Please don't put it on the back of your thinkpad's screen, when was the last time you saw a tech certified sticker there? put it on the palm area on your thinkpad on the bottom of it.

I don't see myself getting a grey one made, also >>62304822

>>62304702
It's in my post

>>62304859
>>62304703
but i want to cover the chinknovo logo

>>62304510
>decreasing your chances of getting a sticker by posting
shiggity

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>>62304894

>>62304810

Because ULV are rubbish. You can get the same efficiency from a 4300M if you just set it's maximum processor state to be the same as the 4300U. Intel doesn't make these ULV processors for efficiency, they make them as they are planned obsolescence, hindering potential performance while the longevity is reduced by being soldered to the board and the solder will become brittle in years to come and eventually the laptop stops working entirely and needs to be reflowed/reballed.

>>62304937
>reballing a dead cpu
dumb

>>62304859
my thoughts are
>Over lenovo Iogo
for maximum autism
>on the palm rest
for the official look
>on the bottom
like a refurbisher oragain, for it to look official

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What are we going to do when all the good Thinkpads are too old to be useful?

Do ex lease thinkpads have their BIOS locked?

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>>62304910

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>>62304785
>the clit mouse is a meme
No it's not, it lets you keep your fingers on the home row.

>>62304810
>stuck to lower performance forever with the purpose of getting better battery life
or
>throttling your processor to the same TDP of an ULV if you want better battery life and unthrottle it when docked or when you require more performance

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>>62303432
Just swap it out senpai

>>62304810
>Alright nerds what's the deal with all the hatred towards ulv processors? Are they really that bad?
No, not at all. ULV was created so laptops can have a longer battery life. Some faggots think that it's cool to try to cram the biggest desktop processor you can into a laptop, and that's fine for 'laptop workstations' but for something small and light you want to save battery life.

ULV hate is a total meme.

>>62305017
You can do this in the BIOS right?

>>62304894
dude we've sperging pretty hard about this for the past few threads

>>62304510
what time zone? i'm gmt+2

>>62304998
>useful
The only thing taxing them now is SJW-era 3D gaymen and the fact that Google decided to run their VP8/9 decoder in Javascript in your browser.

The solution is to stop buying SJW-era games (anything post 2009 or so) and use youtube-dl.

My ancient X40 can play full HD video just fine with mplayer.

>>62305052
EST, it's in circa 1.5 hours

>>62305048
I know. 90% of people are too retarded to set a reminder though so unless they're here right now then chances are the opportunity will slip through their unworthy cheeto dusted fingers

>>62305052
EST

>>62304937
>>62305017
Is it just clocked lower? It's Intel so I presume they're locked and can't be over clocked, so what's the clock/boost on a 4300M?

>>62305026
I'm probably biased because of my interest in a lighter weight/long battery life Thinkpad but that's what I assumed ulv was for

>>62304785
>not disabling your trackpad from the bios
degenerate.

>>62305072
>>62305079
thanks

>>62304785
>clit mouse is a meme
that's what my roommate told me when i told him to get a thinkpad for school, and now he can't stop using it.

>>62305026
ULV is more part of Intel's "less is more" crap. It may be useful for longer battery life but it is still a rip off.

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>>62305047
In your OS, pic related now my 4300m has the same 15W TDP as an ulv with the cpu at 100%.

>>62305017
You'll never get the kind of battery life you could with ULV even if you throttle your desktop processor.

>>62305072
>>62305079
>>62305104
WHAT?
IT'S GOING IN 30 MINUTES
DID DAYLIGHT SAVINGS BEGIN OR SOMETHING?

>>62305085
>I'm probably biased because of my interest in a lighter weight/long battery life Thinkpad but that's what I assumed ulv was for
That's exactly what it's for. I'm not against people ricing their thicc laptops but most people just want something small and light with a long battery life.

>>62305144
oh shit, hype

>>62305144
Not sure. Looking at https://time.is/EST tells me there's 1.5 hours left

>>62305182
>>62305144
patchdynamics is gonna crash, isn't it?

>>62303535
Got a functioning x41 from an old dude at work. It only works when plugged in and didn't want to buy a new battery because it's old and slow on win XP.
pls tell me if this is a meme or if I should actually replace the battery and use it.

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>>62303883
X40 will be fine for those uses. X60 is quite a bit faster, maybe 3x as fast overall, but the keyboard isn't as good and it has a super bright irritating Thinklight instead of the mild amber one the X40 has.

I also have an X61s which is nice, but the X40 is far comfier.

Both can be tweaked for extra long battery life.

>>62304371
>the X40 requires a seriously lightweight distro
I use Debian 9 with XFCE and it's just fine on my X40. I did upgrade my RAM to the maximum and put an SSD in there though. Also I use tickless clock and the schedutil governor. I used to have undervolting enabled but when I upgraded from Debian 8 that broke, I need to redo it. Instead I just set tlp up to keep the processor at 900MHz or below as a temporary stopgap and it seems to work almost as well.

>>62305194
yep

>>62304937
>the solder will become brittle in years to come
Not a problem with a pre-ROHS Thinkpad.

>>62305194
Should've seen it when the original NROL dropped- or the autism hats.

>>62305209
>Debian 9 with XFCE
That is pretty lightweight though XFCE sometimes turns into a RAM eating monster. LXDE is better from my experience

>>62305116
I could deal with something with the computing horsepower of a RPi 3 in a Thinkpad. Less is more in a laptop IMHO.

>>62305204
>Got a functioning x41 from an old dude at work. It only works when plugged in and didn't want to buy a new battery because it's old and slow on win XP.
Install Linux, it'll be much more usable. I am typing this on my X40 running Debian 9 with the latest Firefox ESR and it performs just great. Even modern sites that are JS-intensive run fine, they do take a little while longer to load but once they're all loaded it's fine.

>pls tell me if this is a meme or if I should actually replace the battery and use it.
Replace battery and enjoy. Also look at my battery refreshing procedure.

>>62305239
Could I stick the letter U at the end of that and charge you more for it then? You are getting more after all, right?

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>>62305227
I'm about ready to give up on the DE meme and switch to Windowmaker full time. I haven't noticed heavy RAM use, this machine's been up for weeks now and here's how my memory usage looks now.

I just don't use most of the DE features that people seem to need.

>>62305270
If you could make an ARM laptop with the X40 aesthetic, you could give it a 30-40 hour battery easy. Or you could make a AA holder and get maybe 6-8 hours on normal pen cells and never have to worry about replacing a battery which gets harder to find over time.

I have a powerful desktop computer already.

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>>62305194
my life is so sad that I get excited over a stupid sticker

>>62305348
Assuming this is a limited quantity, it's not too weird being excited over semi-obscure soon-to-be /tpg/ history

where my /stickies/ at

>>62305144
REEEE WHERE IS IT

>>62305533
already bought mine :^)
picked the 4$ bubblemail

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i got mine

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>>62304510
Fuck yeh, ordered.

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>>62304510
gg nerds. Got 3.

>>62305570
i got 4

>>62305570
Why be so greedy? I only took 2.

Ugh, $16, I really don't need 3. Too late now

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who here /gotastickie/?
Just 1 for me :^)

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YISS SON. Gay sticker incoming

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>>62304510
am i a gentooman now?

>>62305586
3, for me and me 2 bros

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Ye

we certified toaster now

>one tiny sticker for a fiver
thats 4 cans of budwiser reeeeee

bought one anyway

I hope that the shipping thingy won't be a problem...
oh and also, how does the shipping thingy work?
Purchased 3 for 12, paid 12 and then it said it's gonna cost a total of 14.
fuck, I need to sleep

oh no
its paypal only
I guess this is end for me boys

>>62305348
People got excited over Beany Babies and they weren't as cool as a sticker.

Damn, I've gone back and read the description (that I sped past) about "bubblemailer". My meme stickers are gonna ruined.

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FUCK are they all gone?

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>bought the sticker as fast as I could
>didnt read description
>went for the 1 dollar shipping
Uhhh fuck?

>>62304510
ordered

thanks senpai

>>62305581
1 for thinkpad
1 for PC
1 for replacement.

>>62305627
>>62305629
He warned you

international shipping better not cost more you cunt, you're charging over the odds as it is and a stamp wont cost that much more

>>62305627
>>62305629
I choose the 4$ one, but I would like to know if the 8$ is faster or what

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FUCK YEAH

>tfw europoor
>didn't read the description

My stickers are gona be ruined right?

>>62303357
I have stupid question, can I charge x220 and x230 with t510 charger ? it is 90w

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>>62304510
Copped, thanks Ai.

>>62305692
Did you use the cheapest shipment?

>>62305692
Yup, same here. I can't belive I waited for this and fucked it up. Why even have it as an option?

>>62305704
Yes, you should be using the 90W ones

>>62305651
Also wondering about this.

Fuck i chose the 1$ option too, let's hope lads that we don't get fucked

>>62305735
Okay I sold my t510 and gave him 90w charger that I got from x220.
Now I am using 90w charger from t510.

>>62305719
the 2$ one

>>62304510
missed it, fuck

oh hey its sold out
oh well

>>62305785
Ha, I used $4 Bubblemail or what's it called because I think the guy mentioned it yesterday

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>>62303357

Can I put an X61T display on a X61
> I don't want the touch features, just a better screen

>>62305824
You mean the 1400x1050 one?
Yes, it has been done but it involves seperating the panel from the glass and sawing off some screw holes. It's pretty complicated.

All Ian not lost, just email the store and explain that you rushed through shipping. You can then pay the extra for bubblemailer via PayPal.

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Fuck this site's retarded, the more cheaper option for bubblemailer is just going by regular postage, the more expensive goes by air packet aka faster. I'll see about fixing it, but thank you all for the orders!

>>62305550
>>62305552
>>62305553
>>62305570
>>62305575
>>62305581
>>62305582
>>62305586
>>62305591
>>62305593
>>62305601
>>62305605
>>62305614
>>62305615
>>62305664
>>62305705
<3 I'll do my best to get half of the orders out by tomorrow, rest by Monday

>>62305645
?

>>62305627
>>62305651
>>62305692
>>62305764
>>62305785
Dummies, all of you.
Reply to the order confirmation email that you want to fix your shipping like >>62305884 said.

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>>62305893
I didn't even see your description. Just common sense to choose to pack a sticker robustly ;^)

Thank you man. Much appreciated

>>62305893
You da real MVP. The $4 option is OK for shipping to Europe, right?

>>62305932
Would like to know this too

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I got super excite and made a (shitty) mockup of what these stickers might look like. I'm not good with GIMP though. Enjoy!

1/4

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>>62305958
2/4

>>62305958
3/4

>>62305986
fucked up nigger
but it looks breddy gud

Fuck you /g/ I just got an X230 off of ebay, I better not hate this thing.

>>62305932
>>62305952
Yup

>>62306005
If it has a TN panel you'll be pissed. Good machine though. Got mine last month..TN.

>>62305849
You don't need to separate anything, you can buy that panel without the glass. However you also need a special cable, and i don't think they sell those anymore, so you have to make it yourself.

>>62306005
>X230

Swap the keyboard and you'll be fine.

>>62305958
>>62305970
why would a sticker have a drop shadow?

>>62306005
You will fucking love it and feel the compulsion to buy ultrabays, 9 cell batteries and fresh thermal paste.

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>>62305986
3/4 again kek

>>62306039
and a backlight keyboard if it doesn't have one.

>>62306039
> ultrabays
> on an X230

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>>62306037
Cause I'm dumb. Also I was using a piece of paper as a reference to how the sticker would look when placing the image over it in GIMP.

4/4

>>62306066
Why would you not want a UltraBase 3?

>>62306059
Did you faggots already buy out all those stickers or what?

>>62306081
Ultrabase =/= Ultrabay

>>62305810
>>62305801
Fuck

>>62304157
>Just for my school and research work, I decided to ditch my plans for an older Thinkpad and muh freedumbs and got a brand-spanking new T460s (goddamn thing is untouched) for $525. Even has a Windows 7 downgrade. Did I do good?
>16:9
>FUCKING HUGE touchpad with integrated buttons
>low-profile trackpoint
>shitty keyboard layout
Sorry bro, that thing's a ThinkPad in name only. You'd be better off with a ten year old Dell Latitude D630, which is closer to a thinkpad than that.

To be clear, I have no problem with chiclet keyboards in and of themselves. But no one makes one with a good layout for laptops.

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>>62306100
uhhhhh

>>62306100
They sold out in a couple of minutes.

>>62306059
>の特性<4chan logo>
What did you mean by this?

>>62306142
>But no one makes one with a good layout for laptops.
Exactly this.

>>62306142
The keyboard is actually exceeding my low expectations, so literally none of what you said is actually a problem for me.

Gonna get an X61T and I want to install Middleton's BIOS to get SATA II. Will this mess with my German keyboard layout?

>>62306239
it shouldn't

>>62306152
Almost 15 minutes desu

Who is the official ThinkPad animu girl?

>>62304510
FUCK

>>62303576
Kek. I literally used to work in this building. Fucking hated it.
>/pol/ pls

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I like the old look of the T420 keyboard but i like the backlit keyboard my T430 has, any backlit version of the old keyboard? Does it feel nicer?

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>>62306233
>I have never used the navigation cluster and therefore don't care
Well, good for you. I guess you don't lose anything of value then except for the physical space separating the F# keys into fours and the Thinklight (GREAT for playing a game boy or reading under).

Also in case anyone missed the last couple threads, gonna post the X201 BIOS flashing USB image again. You can mount it and replace BIOS.WPH to make it _probably_ work on other ThinkPad models.

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>>62305893
You'd better make more of these, I really wanted to get one

I misjudged the timezone difference by an hour. :(

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>when you make a joke little sticker for yourself and some /g/ peeps but you underestimate /g/ autism and sell out in 20 minutes max as well as have your site crash
Thank you all for your patronage, I guess I should work on a restock. If you've missed this run, or just want to keep in check with me, sign up for the newsletter on the bottom of my site.

>>62306430
>any backlit version of the old board?
No, but the Thinklight works fine and is more versatile. You don't lose anything by switching except a bit of the superficial MacBook/1337 h4x0r look, which is pretty pretentious anyway.

>>62306436
The *30's are the only ones without the F-key spacing

>>62305893
>tfw was fixing a friends computer and forgot when sticker was going on sale

fuck

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>>62306442
>check site at specified time
>not listed
>keep checking
>don't see it

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>>62306442
hes making 4" restocks
dont fuck it up anon

>>62303576
As someone born in '96, I protest this stereotype.
>drives a 1980s Volvo 240 box wagon
>Has only professional CRT monitors for TVs
>prefers original game boy for ruggedness and ability to see it in bright sunlight
>IBM Model M's
>>62306481
Yeah, but you might've noticed that the anon he was replying to has a T430.

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>pastebin (where the fuck is it anyways) claims t420 will have libreboot support by 2018
>nothing besides the pastebin claims this
>implying that tranny will make any progress
I swear to fucking god. If """Leah""" doesn't get his ass working I will fork the project myself, and I'm sure the free software community won't be happy with an anti-socialist radical centrist /g/ shitposter with no code of conduct maintaining the most modern libre BIOS.
And don't tell me I'm not smart enough to do it. I've read the documentation and the source. I would just need to quit my shitty job and live off patreon

>>62306521
>brand-spanking new T460s

>>62306436
Forgot the link, duh.
X201 BIOS flashing USB image; 6.4MiB
https://mega.nz/#!jpY10JoZ!rCnxS0yg3YB3l5Hcs4SbQC-XVqhPf4v98Y3SMlMOpXM
>>62306481
>The *30's are the only ones without the F-key spacing
See >>62306521

>>62306484
Exactly what happened.
>>62305893
Is there any way I could get put on a waiting list, or at least be notified when they get restocked?

>>62306542
Oh shit.
I just assumed he was referring to >>62306430, the last post on the subject of the shitty keyboards.

>>62306483
>>62306484
>>62306515
Caring this much about showing your /g/ neckbeard faggotry IRL
>>62306540
I'm sure they'd be pleased if you implemented a BIOS for the T420, which they'd pull back into their version of the software if it's of satisfactory quality. Less work for them after all.
Also,
>being this narcissistic

>>62306540
Do it anon, I'm all for it.

>>62306562
>>62306463

>>62306515
3.5"

>>62306599
It's less narcissistic than that fucking freak of nature who leads the project.

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>>62306626
Who would that be?
I'm just running a Phoenix BIOS with the whitelist removed ATM.
(I'm the one who did the FreeDOS USB drive image thing yesterday)

>>62306662
Shit, I can see the dust on my DSLR's sensor in that pic.
Looks like I'll be buying a cleaning kit. Dammit.

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>>62306662
"Leah" Rowe. Known for intentionally stirring drama in the FS community and being too much of an SJW for STALLMAN to handle.

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>putting an X201 motherboard in an X200 chassis

Is it worth it? Apparently it fits without any problem...

>>62306152
I got 4! Suck it losers.

>>62306540
just do it please

>>62306709
Not really. The chassis is pretty much identical plus with the X201 board there's no libreboot for you

Shit the stickers are gone? Thats what I get for sleeping in.

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>>62306747
>it wouldn't be done by at least near the end of 2018
>I have a limited knowledge of assembly (but four years of C)
>it would probably end up being a hacky fork of coreboot with the blobs removed intended for just the T/W/X 420 and 430
>I'd need to be supported with at least $500~ a month on patreon and that's barely scraping by, not to mention all the parts I'd need for testing it
>I'd probably need more volunteers too
>if we fail we become a laughing stock
With all that in mind is it really worth trying to do it?

Want to keep the resell value on my mint snatched x230...

What can I put on the touchpad to keep that bobbly feel without it looking complete crap? I want to learn to use the trackpoint more anyway

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>>62306478
Thanks <3

>>62306801
Why not, a mind controlled tranny is currently in charge and it isn't even updating the software any more because of hormonal issues.

>>62306709
The touchpad won't work, if you want a touchpad. Neither will the fingerprint sensor.
They have different connectors and the FP sensor isn't even the same model.
Source: I put a X200 palmrest on my X201. On the X200 the FP reader and touchpad are on separate connectors, but they're on a single larger connector on the X201. I had to leave my FP reader disconnected (not much of a loss since I never used it anyway, though...)
>>62306730
>autistic neckbeard and wants to show it to the world on the front, back, left, and right
>>62306750
Coreboot works on the X201 if you really care (caveat: needs management engine binary blob), and the X201 is a decent bit more powerful anyway. I'd be fine with either though. I'd not swap chassis unless my current one had a broken part.
>>62306801
>limited knowledge of assembly
No. Absolutely not. Unless you want to learn a LOT about CPU internals (like how many cycles it takes to execute a given instruction. This actually might be important for initializing components.

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I've been trying to make the mute button LED work for a good few days now.
I'm on gentoo, selected ALL the thinkpad options in the kernel, all built into it. And it doesn't fucking work.
All other leds work, everything works, except for this piece of shit.
Pic related is mfw.
How do I fix this shit? It's a T420

>>62306874
>unless my current one had a broken part
yep. If you have an X201 having an X200 as a backup case is a good idea. If you get one with a broken board it won't even cost you more than $5.

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hi guys. browsing the local craigslist for my first thinkpad
should I grab this t420 for $145?

>8gb ram
>Nvidia NVS4200
>1600x900 screen
>500gb hdd
>i5 model

here are some pictures

>>62306996
That's a steal

>>62306996
Currently shitposting on a T420.
Last good Thinkpad, and it sounds like a solid deal, I'd bite.

>>62304510
im fucking mad
fuck this

>>62306996
Condition looks amazing and specs are breddy gud. Go get it.

>>62307029
>>62307030
>>62307077
Ok i'm going to call the person to arrange time and place wish me luck guys

>>62306901
I have a T420 with Ubuntu. and that shit just works right out of the box.
Consider using an actual fucking working distro for once.

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Is this a good deal for $85?

>>62307156
Thanks senpai, but this wasn't the question.
It was mostly directed at people who knew what to do.

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>>62307156

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>>62307117

>>62307167
>cracks
>9 cell battery: $50~
>ssd: $80~
>8gb ram upgrade: $60~
>ac adapter: $15~
No.

>>62307167
>missing
>HDD, HDD screws, HDD caddy
Yeah is good deal comrade)))

>>62303357
>take THICC case of small laptop like an x220
>put in board from a THINN atom ultrabook/netbook
>20-30 hours battery life

why isn't this a thing I can buy?
now I want a t470 just to get that 17 hour battery life

>>62307167
Webcam yes (not tested)
99% chance that's not working.
On second thoughts, might be a bonus.

>>62307030
>T420
>last good thinkpad
>16:9
Correction: last Thinkpad that had a good keyboard. Not the last good thinkpad.

>>62307274
This would be so awesome. And I guess it would be relatively easy too because if you choose a super compact board you're left with so much space the all the adaptors you'd need to make display, keyboard etc working would fit nicely.

Which T series thinkpad can get 5+ hours of battery?

>>62307307
What's the last good thinkpad?

>>62306901
Check that the ribbon cable or whatever is seated securely, and that the surface-mount LED hasn't snapped off or something.
May sound stupid, but I've seen it happen.

>>62307318
With a new battery all of them.

>>62307327
That's debatable. Personally I consider the last 4:3 machines to be the last good thinkpads, but I can understand people who will say that a 16:10 screen is good enough, considering the higher performance over the older models.
Anything made with a touchpad non-optional is a no-go for me.

>>62307330
Even the s ones?

>>62307329
Can't be it, works on windows.

>>62307381
No because if you get an older s model it will only take 3 cell batteries. I think they started to get large batteries with the T440s

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>>62306996
Make sure to deep clean the machine after you get it to remove any dried semen

Other than that, good buy

x220
2.6Ghz i5
8GB ram
128gb SSD

Dusty but good condition

Got it for $160, did I do good?

>>62307408
T430 looks bretty good. I might get that one. i have an Acer Aspire E15 and it gets more than 6 hours right now. The 1080P screen is nice but want to take some replaceable around with me.

>>62306802
Just disable the touchpad, your life will improve.

How do I Libreboot my T60? Should I physically remove the ATI card first or wait for it to be supported?

>>62307274
But I get 11 hours on my X220 already. If I get a slice it'll be more like 20, and it's still an i5 and 8GB of RAM.

>>62307558
>physically remove the ATI card
it's soldered, so good luck with that
you'll need an intel iGPU board for libreboot

>>62306802
If you don't want it to click you can put a stack of paper between the touchpad and the metal frame underneath it. works fine for me

>>62307603
I was told I could disable the ATI card and use the iGPU.

>>62307714
What about instead of doing that, you send me your T60 with the ATI chip and I send you a T60 without it? That way I get an upgrade and you get your freedoms without crippling a laptop.

>>62307714
You don't have an iGPU if you have the dGPU. That wouldn't come around until the i-series.

Why aren't X30, X31 and X32 getting any love here? Thinking about getting one of those rather than an X4x model.

>>62307767
>not being able to access the iGPU is the same as not having an iGPU
The CPU chip will have it built in.

>>62307754
Where do you live?

posted my reply in the wrong thread
>>62307692

>>62307776
They're just too ancient for me, man. I love them to death too, though.

>>62307801
>too ancient
That doesn't explain why I haven seen them mentioned here in weeks. I mean, 40 series models from the same era still get a lot of attention

>>62307785
Indiana. I was being hypothetical because I don't actually own a T60 though.
If you're serious, however, and somewhat nearby, I might try to find one.

In the meantime though, since this anon appears willing, if anyone wants to get an ATI T60, now's the time.

>>62307783
No. It's not on the CPU. The iGPU wasn't placed on the CPU package until Nehalem, and it was a separate die until Sandy Bridge. dGPU models only have the dGPU.

>>62307828
(to be clear I would love a T60 and would gladly trade a Dell Latitude D-series if anyone is interested for some reason. I have D610's, D620's, and D630's. Not sure if they have a free software BIOS available, though. My only thinkpads are an X201 and a 760ELD from the 90s)

>>62307837
Oh, yeah.
I forgot, thanks for reminding me without being a prick, anon.

>>62307828
Actually now that I think about it, I should probably keep it. Not every day you get a near-perfect condition ATI T60 for $42. I still can't get it to run Touhou properly though.

>>62307885
>$42
Damn, that's a decent price.

All my latitudes were free, BTW. I have ten.
Had 14, swapped parts until ten worked. A school was scrapping them.

My best deal ever was probably a free multiscan professional 20" CRT monitor from a TV station, but I actually might prefer a good thinkpad over it. :|

>>62307926
Damn, what's the resolution on that CRT?

>>62308010
There is no native resolution on a CRT, anon. It all depends on how fast your pixel clock is on your video hardware - the faster it is, the more pixels per line.

That said, I know what you mean. It goes from 480i/"240p" up through 720p/1080i. It's a Sony PVM-20L5.

>>62308061
Oh, and vertical resolution DOES depend on the monitor's accepted horizontal sync rate. But there is definitely no fixed horizontal resolution, only vertical.

>>62308061
How high can you get the refresh rate?

>>62308090
>>62308061
>>62307926
DESU my consumer 14" multiscan PC CRT goes higher. It just doesn't go to low enough horizontal sync rates for retro video games or my Amiga 500.

>>62304510
FUCK YOU

DO ANOTHER RUN

>>62308108
60hz. It's a monitor for viewing TV and movie content, not gayming.

My consumer CRT (sony CPD-100SF) can do absurd vertical refresh rates at lower resolutions (longer hsync period), or more normal vertical rates at higher ones (shorter hsync period).
>>62308172
>being this autistic over a sticker you can put on your laptop so the brownshirts can recognize you and send you to the camps

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I just updated my X240 to the 1080p panel and it is gloriousssssss

>>62308172
fuck you for not being fast enough. I bought 2

>>62308172
He says 2 weeks max

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>prefer the IBM style ThinkPads
>they're rare and priced the same as Lenovo era Pads

Is it just dumb to source from eBay or what?

The alienwhere mod brings the T420 to 1080p right?

I want to be able to watch anime in Starbucks

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>>62308207
>16:9
>glorious
choose one
>>62308227
>Is it just dumb to source from eBay or what?
Yes.
Go to craigslist frequently or go to HAM radio conventions where people sell old shit cheap.
>>62308245
>I am physically incapable of watching Anime on anything less than a 1080p LCD
Sounds like you never experienced the 90s.

>>62308322
>People born in 1999 can post on 4chan legally
:^)

Also anime is made in 1080p so why not watch it in the best quality?

>>62308343
I know, I was born in '96. But my point is, this is 100% a "first world problem" white people bullshit complaint.

It's like complaining that your car starts to rumble a little when you're doing 100mph.

>>62308343
>>62308368
Also the anime in the pic is definitely not made in 1080p. Nor was Dragon Ball, nor was basically any anime prior to the mid 2000s (except maybe cel-animated movies, which would have been captured to 35mm film, which has a "resolution" of roughly 4K). Most TV anime was done on 16mm film and went through multiple generations of degradation before airing.

>>62308385
Oh and this pokemon episode in particular (S01EP38) only aired one time in Japan, and the only copies we know of are from VHS and maybe Betamax recordings made in the mid-90s.

>>62308385
jfc I just want to watch modern anime at a good resolution

Stop sperging out and answer my question or let another anon do it

>>62308322
holy fuckin shit dude what do i have to do to get you to kill yourself

acting all high and mighty because you have a shitty CRT you found in the dumpster. if you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about you'd be sperging out over mitsu TV's instead

this is nu-/g/ isnt it

>>62308406
The resolution doesn't make a difference you tard

>>62308406
>jfc I just want to watch modern anime at a good resolution
Reminder that Jesus never existed
Reminder that 720p is a good resolution
>>62308446
I sperg out over Panasonic monitors more. I prefer the tri-dot shadow mask over the aperture grille. Mitsu TV's are seriously great, though.
And I was given it. There is absolutely no way I could have lifted a 70lb monitor out of a dumpster.

>>62308368
>white people bullshit
>>>/tumblr/

>>62308472
Jesus' existence was scientifically proven. The miracles and other shit weren't, but the man existed. Not like you'd know, you only read magazines about fedoras.

>>62308469
720p is plenty for sure. He definitely didn't need to upgrade.
With that said, 1080p does look marginally nicer on my external monitor than 720p on my X201, but that is probably because a) that's an IPS LCD and b) the external monitor is 24 inches diagonally.

>>62308472
>Reminder that 720p is a good resolution
Not an argument

Here's your last (You). Please fuck off to reddit^^ :3

>>62308533
Anime is 90% =< 720p
Name one anime you watch that's 1080p

>>62308497
>Jesus's existence was scientifically proven
>you can scientifically prove that a human existed from documents written a century after his purported death

>>62308574
Read a book sometime, you might learn something.

>>62308567
I'm the one who said 720p is a good resolution, but to be fair, Kill La Kill is available in 1080p.
Since anime has been around since the 60s however, I have little doubt at least 51% of all anime is <= 720p.

>>62308589
Yeah but if you haven't seen KLK at this point you aren't going to anyway.

Anyone have any experience with the different thinkpad BT modules? Looking at either the Foxconn or LiteOn ones for an x230 and am not quite sure of their differences.

>>62308578
>ad hominems constitute an argument
Oh, OK then.
>implying you can read
Like that?

>>62303357
>get my x220
>pay a little more than i should have for it but okay, it comes with a docking station, cd drive and a case which i thought might be nice ($320)
>it arrives with one single green dead pixel
MOTHER FUCKER

>>62308610
As long as you remove your BIOS whitelist it probably won't matter, but you may want to actually give chipset names so we can check specs.

>>62308638
What you deserve for getting a 16:9 throwaway mini-TV LCD anyway.

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Can anyone here help me with my W520's microphone drivers for wangblows? They're utter shit in Windows 7, but they're completely fine in Ubuntu. So the hardware isn't the issue, the drivers are.

Has anyone ever changed/upgraded their sound drivers? And if so, to what?

>>62308733
Solution: run Wangblows in a VM.

>>62308733
Also you'll want to specify what your audio chipset is.

>>62308733
Hey I do not know if this will help in your case but try using Sdi driver tools. You can find it and it will scan for your missing drivers. I use it mostly for refurbished pc's.

>>62308751
If you want to avoid running shit you don't need that could install sub-optimal drivers, don't do this.

Also check lenovo's website's support page for your model.

>>62308769
>>62308733
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-w520

NEW THREAD

>>62303357

>>62308781
https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/8aad14ww.exe
Conexant driver

>>62308769
I have never ran into any issues while using it but ill keep that in mind.

>>62308638
>not getting a glorious x230 with IPS
I paid 175 off eBay in January for mine and it never even advertised having an IPS screen, no dead pixels either

Why would you pay anything over 200 for a x220 in 2017, even if it has a docking station?

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>>62308750
The chipset I have for it is an Intel(R) Mobile Express Chipset SATA AHCI Controller.

>>62308751
The sound driver I have for it is Conexant 20672 SmartAudio HD, which is supposedly standard for this model, and according to everyone I've looked, everyone agrees they're shit.

>>62306996
so I bought this few hours ago. turns out it has Computrace enabled on the bios. How fucked am I /g/uys? did i seriously just waste $145 for a potentially stolen laptop?

>>62308825
https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/8aad14ww.exe
driver for windows 7 64 bit

>>62308790
That's another thread with over 300 posts.

>>62308842

NEW THREAD

>>62308837
On what page did you find that link?

>>62308833
yes, it's now a botnet
Jamal fucked you over

>>62308897
>where did you find that link
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-w520
See >>62308781

>>62308921
>https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-w520
Appreciate it.

If this doesn't work though, would getting a USB microphone help? Or would I still have an issue because of the drivers? I'm kind of sad that my W520 has microphone issues, while my X220 has been fine since I got it all though years ago.

>>62309069
USB mic might help. It will use a different driver for sure.
Make sure the mic is enabled in the audio mixer and in the sound card properties dialogue. Also make sure the mic is actually plugged into the motherboard, if it's detachable.
I'm a linux user, though, so I can't be much more helpful than that.

>>62309189
>I'm a linux user, though
That's the funny thing though. The mic worked out of the box on Ubuntu, but for whatever reason it sounds like shit in windows. If this doesn't work I'll probably just pick up a cheapo-generico usb mic.

>>62309217
Hey, I have a USB video capture card that works fine in Linux out-of-the-box with no driver installation required, but took me seven hours of looking for other USB devices containing the same chipset to find a Windows 8/10 driver (the manufacturer of the card only provided drivers up to Windows 7 to try to make me buy a new one).

(The device is a Roxio video capture USB, the chipset is an Empia em2861, and the device with a compatible driver was the ezcap DC60+ - note the plus, it's important)

>>62308638
>$320
>a little more
wew