/mkg/ - Chinese ortholinear edition

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Nice rare industrial m13 reporting in

Do you ever get bullied at work for having a loud keyboard?

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>>62289839
my realforce isnt loud

>>62289839
>Getting bullied
faggot

>>62289839
I don't have work

>>62289892
That Windows®™ key is hilarious.

>>62284950

whats a good lube

>>62289892
Why not get an iMac if you aren't even using your computer as a laptop?

>be me
>buy an Anne Pro
>the switches are smooth as fuck gateron browns
>but the firmware is shit
>its so shit that I can't use it on GRUB/BIOS
Can I RMA it to Banggood and get a refund? I shoud have go straight to the tada68, but I didn't have money at the time.
Also, where I can get a cheap TADA68? I'm living in Chile, so I don't know if I can get shit from taobao.

I asked in the last thread an nobody answered, so being the faggot that I am here I go again:

To anybody here who's used ortholinears, is it possible to efficiently and frequently switch between normal and ortholinear? Or is it more like switching to Colemak or some shit?

>>62290122
it's bluetooth wireless right? the tada68 isn't though i sorely wish it was. tada68 is GOAT, might even get the tada60 with MOD-M switches

>>62290122
Pretty sure kbdfans will ship worldwide.

Also check where massdrop is shipping their current drop, it's a bit cheaper than kbdfans if you can wait.

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>>62289938
The macbook air CMD key? Yeah it's my lab's computer and it's from 2011 so the paint has worn off.

>>62290080
I do use it as a laptop. I switch between that mba and an x230 and have them setup like that where possible.

>>62290159
Yes.
This keyboard would be perfect IF the firmware wasn't so buggy and shitty. I have hopes that some faggot at reddit/GH/DA does a open source firmware, but I don't want to wait.

>>62290196
>assdrop
I closed my account days ago. That shit isn't worthwhile.

>>62290122
mine works well :(

>>62290488
Can make you work in BIOS/Grub? plugged to usb?
I want to keep it, but I think that Obins needs to know that doesnt work at boot.

>>62289755
what do you guys think about a 6.5 inches phone and a mechanical keyboard for in the go typing using emacs?
Or is to small and i should go for a tables?

>>62290545
i test in 15minutes

>>62290561
Thanks. I would wait.
>tfw you recivied the keyboard on friday an
>banggood return policy states max 3 days

Can the ESC key be programmed to the opposite corner on the tada68 without issue? Firmware flash needs esc key so I wonder if it would be confused at all if it was moved.

Or can the WASD V2 be programmed at all? Every video I look up for that is some wanker fapping over their keycap customization.

>>62290622
First question yes, second question no, but there are software tricks to program nonprogrammable keyboards.

>>62290618
you right they don't work with bios and grub but my 40% does
fug this shit! OBIIIIIIINS WTF!!!

>>62290622
Pretty sure the flashing should be hardwired. All programming does is set the scancodes that will be sent on keypress, this is obviously not actually used by the controller. So think of the esc key as a button

>>62289892
Hows the jis layout? Do you program the extra keys or do you actually speak jap?

Is the realforce white like leopold's?

>>62291056
Realforce is more of an off white

>>62290654
>>62290898
Looking a lot like I'm getting a tada68. Once I'm done convincing myself I don't need F-key row.

black or white for aesthetics? do white keyboards get dirty easy?

>>62291319
Get a black keyboard I got a white one and regret it. Every keycap set looks like shit on a white board.

>>62291319
White. Black shows too much dust.

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>>62291056
I live in Japan so I use the JIS. I'm used to the layout though I could switch provided I had an extra key under ESC for language switching. Too used to that.

As for color, <

>>62291353
what about black keycaps on a white board?

>>62289755
Ortholinear is the worst meme in mechanical keyboards

>>62291741
Looks ugly to me but if you like it go for it

>>62291780
why is it the worst meme? have you tried it?

>>62289755
What is the model of this keyboard?

>>62290207
looks sexy as fuck

>>62292034
xd75re
http://s.aliexpress.com/3m2iEVzU

>>62292132
Thanks :D

>>62289892
What is your model? With command key and small spacebar. Thanks

Decent cheap 60% with quiet switches for carrying to work?

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>>62292203
Any JIS keyboard has that layout. Its called realforce 91u I belive

>>62292284
Thanks :D

>>62292203
>>62292284
Yep. NG0100 91U.

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>>62291353
>Every keycap set looks like shit on a white board.
Muh aesthetic looks pretty damn swell, thank you very much.

>>62292706
Looks like someone vomited an entire bowl of milk and a few stray fruit loops.

>>62289892
sweet setup anon. i like it.
I hear no one (under 40) even use kana to enter japanese text anymore. it's a shame.

>>62293057
I don't know anyone even over 40 that does it. Frankly I'm surprised kana is even printed on keyboards anymore.

>>62291420
Alt-Tilde switches between input methods when the Japanese ime is active on windows. I've been toying with the idea of getting one of the ANSI kana sets to learn, but the JIS standard seems to have a lot of modifying keys that would be missing.

>>62293057
Typing Japanese on qwerty is a chore due to the placement of vowels, but I'm not sure how efficient the JIS layout is for kana.

So I've been using a Pok3r for a bit now but haven't been programming, starting using Xcode today and jesus fuck it's difficult to navigate text with this thing.

Conversely using things like VIM and its associated hotkeys in plugins is great. Anyone else having this difficulty in IDEs editing text where it's just not worth it seemingly?

>>62292998
lol it really does, spot on anon.

>>62290207
should wait for MHW, git gud at mhp3rd

>>62293388
>I don't know anyone even over 40 that does it. Frankly I'm surprised kana is even printed on keyboards anymore.
Doesn't surprise me one bit. IME is so much easier and much more flexible. It also allows you to easily pick kanji and katakana.

It's a shame because I want japanese keycaps because they look cool and I love the aesthetic.

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Anyone know where I could buy a red Enter key? my needs are simple:

- red ANSI enter
- no legend
- PBT
- OEM profile

I can't find one for cheap anywhere. I found one in ABS for like $15 which is a fucking ripoff.
Can someone help me plox?

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Hello everyone.

GK64 with Kailh Bronze is basically endgame in terms of portable daily driver for laptop usage.

>>62294656
Is that a Shield? If so, good taste in CC, although those accessories would make it much more difficult to conceal.

>>62294669
thanks. will do. delete email.

>>62294669
Whats the point of deleting it when some plugins still let me see your post?

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>>62294704
It is not, but the mysterious deleted post was.

>>62294775
idk, it's a burner email anyway, I'm just doing like the dude said. I'm sure there's like 500 spam emails in there by now.

>used Blues for a week
>used Matias Quiets for a week
>used Topres for a week
>went back to Model M

Buckling springs are still the best tactile switch around.

>>62289839
I'm using my company-provided dell keyboard

>>62294785
Is that little clip for the mouse-cord part of the mousepad or sold separately?

>>62294860
>I'm using my company-provided dell keyboard
Have you ever considered bringing your personal keyboard, or does shit get stolen a lot?

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>>62294860
It's part of the fUnc, came with it. 15 years on and still nobody has made anything better than the fUnc.

>>62294856
shame they are so loud. what did you prefer next out of the others?

>>62294867
>does shit get stolen
More like the other way round, I have my own office and only a hand full of people are authorized to access it (card reader lock at the door). For it-security reasons I can't bring any hardware that connects to the pc when it wasn't provided by our company into my office.

>>62294885
Nice, I guess i'll build a ripoff myself

>>62293423
Hardly anyone uses keyboard kana input in Japan.

>>62290139
I'm switching between an Ergodox and a regular board and it will drop your accuracy and speed.
Went from 130 on regular to 80 on both due to inaccuracies. Me having a trash typing style before certainly didn't help though.

>>62292010
Ortho doesn't make sense in regular sized boards as you will never have your hands at a 90° angle to it.
It's great on splits or boards with spacing in the middle.

>>62295995
But how else will I show off my weaboo sensibilities on my $200 keyboard?

>>62296642
Dang. Still that's not too bad of a drop, definitely not as bad as when switching layouts, so I think I'll still go for it.

My plan, if anyone is wondering, is to carry a preonic for use at work and shit, and stick to a normal keyboard at home (at least until I can get an ergodox just the way I like it).

opinions on Mantistek GK2 104? currently $27 on banggood. i guess there's nothing better for that price?
https://www.banggood.com/Mantistek-GK2-104-Keys-NKRO-RGB-Blue-Red-Black-Brown-Switch-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1082840.html

Hey, i got a g710+ but would like to switch to a TKL board.
Can i use the keycaps from the logitech board or do they have some retarded special keycaps?

>>62290122
PEBKAC
I've had mine for a few months, and the only issue is that the space stabilizer isn't great.
Keyboard works fine after the firmware update.

>>62293448
>falls for 60% meme
>surprised its not useful
y anon

Is there a "tier" guide to keyboards? I know it's subjective, but would find it interesting anyway

>>62290207

Which model are you using? I want to buy a Thinkpad and knowing it can run PSP games is a plus. Also, what stand are you using?

I don't play a lot of video games anymore so I just use a Model M for my computing. But when I do actually play games I play on the Model M and it is intense. What kind of tenkeyless keyboard should I get for video games?

>>62298353
If you'd pick a noppoo choc mini I would not advise against doing so.

>>62298418
I'm open to any recommendations. Just need something small to keep something off to the side when not in use.

>>62297311
I'm still able to keep up with most things. Typing speed is rarely the limiting factor anyway.
The Ergodox did, however, forced me to use a much more comfortable typing style and position.

>>62298353
A TKL Model M

>Budget
50 euro (can increase if it's worth it)

>Location (continent at least)
Europe

>Preferred switch type
Blue

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Full or TKL

>Backlight
Yes

>Previous/current keyboards
CM Storm II

>>62297964
If they're romer-g switches then you're fucked

Some models, or some older keyboards of other models, come with actual cherry switches though. In that case the worst that can happen is non-standard sizes for some modifier keys (the alphanumeric keys will always be 1*1 and you don't need to worry about them), but even then all it will take is some extra effort and money to get what you need (unlike romer-g keycaps which simply don't exist).

>>62298353
The most cost-effective/quality is a realforce 87u with topre switches

>>62299053
okay, thanks

>>62297429
pls reply

>>62297429
Looks decent. I don't know Gaote though.

The go-to ultracheap here is the i-500 but I think it's only in tkl, and doesn't have backlighting, while being only slightly cheaper (usually around $20). Also if your board is programmable - it's not clear what they mean, but it might be - then it's an excellent deal.

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>>62300016
it does have macros and rgb settings if that's what you mean.
also should i go with brown or red switches? i mainly do gayming (tf2, loads of key pressing).
thanks for replying.

>>62291269
if you really need the F-row so bad for certain applications like i do, invest in the kbd75.

got the tada68 with MOD-Ms and had to send back my kbd75 with zealio 67g switches because it was ISO.

it's got a nice heavy weight and wonderful build quality. i got used to not using the f-row but for work applications and certain MMOs it's just nice to have as a convenience.

get the tada68 first and get used to not having the f-row, then bump up to the kbd75

How much do GMK sets go for? The GMK Led zeppelin is $170 aren't they usually $110?

>>62298418
noppoo choc mini... the kailh/outemus of 75% layout keyboards.

got mine with gateron browns and even tho they're slicker than cherry mx browns they still feel like shit.

it's still collecting dust. will probably give it away to a friendo for christmas

>>62300676
They're usually $180 bucks. The only ones that sell for that low are the ones on massdrop that get 5000+ units sold

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>>62289755
Does keycap thickness really matter if you use o-rings or don't bottom out when you type?
I know about PBT and their durability and texture over ABS, but I noticed a hardly ever bottom out while I type. Would the cap thickness even really matter in that instance? There's no sound or feel of the cap hitting the board and that's what I mostly see changes with thickness.

>>62300762
Keycap thiccness only really matters for PBT since its a brittle plastic that can easily break.

Coolermaster MasterKeys. Yes or no?

>>62300862
Get the one with PBT keycaps

>>62300862
Which one?

>>62300879
Why?

>>62300880
I was looking at the Pro S

>>62300897
>why
Backlighting is a meme anyway: you'll be better off with good quality caps.
>pro S
I think there are better TKL in the market.

>>62298509
bro dont treat women like that it's not cool

Just got a tester the zealios aren't that amazing? It just feels light like a brown with a more pronounced bump

>>62300391
That's completely up to personal preference. I'm playing tf2 just fine with blues, and people say they game on buckling springs. Now, while those might take a bit of getting used to, browns and reds are both perfectly suited to gaming, so it's really up to you.

If you don't know, best thing is to go to a physical shop and try some switches out, second best is buy a switch tester from amazon then return it. (Or you can buy a pair of keyboards from amazon, experiment with typing and gaming on both, and return them.)

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Varmilo 104 for 185 freedom bucks including shipping. Yay or nay?

Is there pretier full sized keyboard?

Ducky Shine 4 (2014) reporting in.

What's new in /mkg/ and what should I upgrade to?

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>>62301583
Shine 6

>>62301427
Is the case made from aluminium, and does it atleast have PBT keycaps?

>>62301685
its abs keycaps, case seems plastic too with some texture

>>62301748
185 is way too much. A ducky One with PBT keycaps is a much better value. You could also get a DSX 108 for the same price, while the keycaps are ABS the case is made from metal

>>62301371
i live in slavlands (that's why i want a poorfag-tier keyboard in the first place) and switch testers aren't a thing here. i visited a few shops and they didn't have any keyboards on display (also people call you retarded if you spend more than 50€ on one). i'll probably order one with red switches

Where can I find a novatouch?

>>62301838
Thanks, DSX is out of touch for me as i live in the middle of europe

Ducky One is 145 euro on amazon, which is equal to 175 usd

>>62301954
Get it from alternate for 109€

>>62301368
What weight zealios? Also that's kind of the point with them

>>62301946
Never ever budy

>>62302215
all four you can tell the difference but its quite subtle im sure the heaviest ones is it 78g? would get quite annoying for prolonged use.

>>62301897
Is amazon not a thing there? Also I'm pretty sure chinks will usually ship anywhere, including russia, so you could always look into those options if you aren't actually a poorfag

>>62302437
>Is amazon not a thing there?
Not unless you want to pay 20-40$ for shipping from USA

>>62302579
Why not order from European amazon?

>>62302621
It's even more expensive

>>62301368
>>62302276
brown anything is shit but i like how snappy cherry mx clears are.

my lady fingers buckle under the weight but ironically i type just fine on buckling spring keyboards.

but yeah that's the point of zealios and mod switches, pronounced bump but smooth going down

>>62302579
I take it Prime is not available, then

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>>62295864
It should be very easy to manufacture, it's thin 22 or 24 gauge sheet steel with a few bends and cuts that could be simplified. This should help.

How is the IKBC C87? I just want a basic tkl keyboard with decent pbt caps.

>>62303395
I just ordered one from chinks, some reviews say the caps are too tight and it may be hard to remove them, plus they're laser-engraved, so not perfect. Otherwise it seems to be a really solid board if you don't need any extra stuff

>>62303967
What's the problem with laser engraved keycaps?

>>62304288
The laser often burns deep so you feel it. Doesn't look the best either, dye sub is superior.

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Should I buy a brand new novatouch for $210?

>>62305014
Do you like Topre? If the answer is yes, then do.

If you don't know/never tried, you could try ordering one (e.g. a realforce or hhkb) to try then returning it, but that will only really be viable if you have amazon prime, you'll still want to spend a couple of days typing on it to make up your mind, and the deal you're looking at might slip away. Alternatively, just go for it and sell it on later if you really hate it, though you might take a loss in the process.

>>62305014
no, buy a realforce or leopold instead.

>>62305014
no, buy a decent rubber dome instead

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lol

>>62305454
That's almost Ergodox YouTube comment territory.

>buy a set of Spanish keycaps for the RGB POK3R
>sorry, we don't have these at stock, but we do have the PBT ones

I just wanted some gay rainbows, but I will get better quality keycaps, I guess.

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helo first time no bully pls

>>62306452
lmao

>>62306452
>WASD keycaps
Shitty keycaps, but for the design you chose I'll give you a 6/10

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>>62306605
>>WASD keycaps
i mean, where else can I get fully custom caps? these only cost me around $50

>be me
>never held a soldering iron in my life
>want to buy a kit
How likely am I to fuck things up? Is this something I can watch a youtube tutorial on, then do on my first try, or should I get some spare electronics to practice on? My goal is obviously a keyboard with no defects, I won't care if the soldering looks ugly or whatever as long as it works.

Any keyboards with the numpad on the left? I don't want to go TKL but it would still be more ergonomic
There are some that also have the arrow keys on the left for left-handers but I don't want that

>>62306638
Get some protoboard and components to practice on, or at the very least try soldering some wire together. Soldering isn't hard, but there's a bit of a knack to it, and you will fuck your board if you have no idea what you're doing.

>>62306675
Alright, good to know. How much should I spend on the soldering kit? Is something for $30 from amazon good enough, assuming I don't intend to use it very often at all?

>>62306697
As long as it has temperature control and isn't complete housefire-tier chink garbage it'll be fine, /csg/ should be able to recommend a good budget option if you don't mind Aliexpress.

>>62306767
Awesome, thanks for the advice

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Here's my Pok3r. Sorry for the shit picture. I'm a starving college student and can't afford a camera.

>>62306631
China has a bunch of services for 30-40 bucks. They are also better since they don't use that shitty coating WASD loves to use.

Do I need prime to get free returns?

>>62307097
Yes, unless there is some defect with the product.

How do alps compare to cherry i can tell the matias are quite nice but everyone keeps saying alps are nicer. Also I want to try a torpre massdrop has one for like 300 dollars

>>62307091
link? new to this shit

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>>62306824
looks like marshmallows, i like it

>>62307114
Last time I did it I had to pay for returns unless I selected one of the defect options, and I had prime

It's not like they check anyway. I guess the botnet might flag you if you spam "defective" returns all the time, but don't abuse the system too much and you shouldn't have any problems getting free returns

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>>62307223
Thanks, friend. Here's why I like the caps so much.

anyone ever buy an edu email off ebay?

>>62307223
looks sick

i have a ducky year of the horse edition and i wanna get new key caps for it

Just received my type heaven and wow it feels just like my dell quietkey. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

>>62307540
type heaven isn't true topre, you need to get realforce

>>62307540
Topre is rubber dome, but with a slider. There is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of it, though, but it wasn't enough for me to get over the cheap feel. As a proud owner of an HHKB, it isn't the best switch out there, imo.

Just bought a realforce, you guys better not be fucking with me

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>>62307846
They are tho. The HHKB is the only topre keyboard to use case mount switches which is the best iteration of the rubber dome meme.

>>62300595
I could do the kbd75, but they don't have cases available to start from the pcb since I don't want any of their switch options. And their DIY kit for the tada68 includes keycaps for whatever reason.

That is, their site and a lot of other places with diy stuff all seem really inconsistent.

>>62307873
Realforce has better build quality, has f keys, and arrow keys

>>62307962
The HHKB has f keys and arrow keys tho.

>>62308007
dedicated f keys and arrow keys

>>62308029
the HHKB can have those too with QMK

>>62308044
Fuck off and die, I thought you got bored and left like 20 threads ago

>>62308044
It still has bad build quality, also i got the realforce for $205 so it was a good deal and cheaper than an hhkb

>>62308085
HHKBs are like 160 bucks, plus they're better built and use case mounted switches.

>>62308116
Where would I get one for $160?

>>62307540
It's a rubber dome. If you wanted something that wasn't a rubber dome, you should have bought that instead. Topre is "I like rubber dome. I want rubber dome but a little better, like with N-key rollover and a hard bottom out."

>>62308127
Buy them direct from Fujitsu. The type S is 260 bucks and the normal one is 100 bucks cheaper.

>>62308116
why do you tell so many lies?

>>62308146
They aren't better built and they are not on fujitsu

>>62308174
Wrong and wrong

>>62308180
I checked and they aren't on there

hhkb is still like $180 used.

>>62308197
Wrong again. I just went there, but they don't have any normal HHKBs left. Just the stupid nip ones. That sucks I guess, but you can still get them for a lot cheaper then some amazon proxy.

>>62308211
you got ripped off m8. Even on ebay and craigslist used HHKBs sell for 120-150 bucks

>>62294656
>>62294785
2bh I got that same color scheme for my $35 chinkboard because of all your posts. Cost me $20, but it was worth it. Only flaw with it was the cheap keycaps it came with.

>>62308230
Doesn't matter I'm just buying the realforce to try out topre If I don't like it I can return it

what's the actuation force (roughly) of a thinkpad t400/410/420 keyboard? I would like a cherry mx with similar or slightly more resistance, and I'm thinking also that I want a clicky mechanism, so am looking at Cherry MX Blue. Does that sound about right? am not able to try these out in person -- would appreciate any advice!

can you get silenced MX blacks?

>>62308401
https://opticboards.com/group-buys/mx-silent-black

It's a group buy so it probably has long shipping time

>>62308391
Blues feel kind of light compared to my x220, you might want to look for Cherry or Gateron Greens. Blacks are a lot easier to find, but they're linear.

>>62308700
cheers, thanks.

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Finally found my baby.

I use a Model M at home along with a CRT monitor oriented portrait style; in order to approximate this setup on the go, I figured that I'd need a tablet that I could turn vertical on a stand and a Bluetooth mechanical keyboard.

Couldn't use the Anne Pro, it doesn't have an arrow key cluster, but the Drevo Calibur (KeyCool 71) is cheap as shit, the Outemu blues are a little on the wobbly side (but what do I care, I'm just looking for a way to annoy people like a hipster when I type in public), but the thing werks. (At least, it works with a Windows tablet; it's shit with Android, but who cares about Android?) Not bad for forty bucks.

Can someone recommend the cheapest programmable keyboard?

>>62309371
anane pro

>>62309661
>>62309371
anne pro

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>>62289816
Brota bonah

>>62289816

I came.

Why does the realforce 87u have to be so ugly?

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Today I will remind them

Overthrow the QWERTY tyranny

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Ignore my setup, is my keyboard nifty? Redpill me on keyboards I'm new. Board's old af

>>62310185
But anon fampai, I'm already using dvorak!

>>62310185
these all have bad spots lmao

>>62290549
6.5 inch phone and a plank/atreus/jd40 would be just fine. Just would want to make sure the switches are plenty quiet.

>>62292215
V60 for cheapest, crap caps and OK case

Poker 3 for good stock caps and solid aluminum case

GH60 if you want to build your own

Linear or non-clicky tactile switches for quiet. Highly recommend against O-Rings.

>>62298219
no nice infograph, you should make one anon

>>62298953
Gonna have to go to something from china for that kinda budget. Should be pretty easy to get something with blues in a TKL though

>>62300676
Led Zep has a couple of custom legends, and pretty wide coverage. $170 is slightly on the high side, but not that much. As the other anon said, the really cheap ones are the ones that sell 1000 units or more.

>>62306638
dont buy into the memes of $100+ soldering iron. Just go to your local hardware store and get a $30-$30 weller with replaceable tips and you'll be happy

>>62306824
A rare g20 user, neat. What switches and how do you like typing on them? and for your
>>62307325
Wouldn't this just be as tall as DSA?

>>62311076
Specs say G20 is 0.290" tall and DSA is 0.291" tall.

>>62308249
literally never happens

>>62311088
>literally 0.01"

>>62306697
>>62306767
Yihua 908/936 and TS100 are the /csg/ meme irons.
Yihua 908 is a decent hobo iron with temperature control and takes standard hakko style tips
Yihua 936 is basically just a bench version of the 908, but the form factor gives it better maintenance options
TS100 is a great portable temp controlled iron with hackable smart firmware. Much favored by RC nuts. Instead of running straight off mains it has a standard 5.5/2.5mm barrel plug that takes any DC between 12-24V (17-65W) so it'll run straight off car power or a LiPo battery pack.
The Yihuas are cheap and great performers for their price. The TS100 you pay a bit more for the portability/compactness.

>>62310120
it isn't? not to me anyway, now Matias keyboards, they're ugly.

>>62310185
currently learning colemak, I'm up to 70wpm now

>>62294785
>Hey what's up ladies? My hobbies are guns, picking locks but not stealing anything, and customizing computer keyboards

Just joined the massdrop for tada68, should I have bothered with referrals?

Also need a good keycap set, someone said valentine earlier but which has a 1.75rshift?

>>62311110
Yes.

>>62310750
Is that a rock under your monitor? Also where's the rest of your case?

>>62311898
EnjoyPBT is good

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Anyone have any tips on cleaning my keyboard, it's quite nasty

>>62312658
Take the keycaps off and use a brush to clean those fuckers and the keyboard itself.

>>62309673
>>62309661
I wouldn't suggest it when programmable is a criteria rather than a bonus. It's stupidly limited through the app.

>>62309371
tada68

>>62310185
>no Workman

>>62310937
>plank
>for emacs
Unless he uses evil mode, that's gonna be painful

>>62310972
I'd be happy to make one, but I don't have a strong enough opinion on them to know what to put

just from what I've gathered

>elitist tier
Any topre keyboard
>good keyboards
tada68/filco/ducky/unicomp model M
>hipster tier
planck,gherkin
>my wrists hurt
ergodox
>babbys first mech
razer/steelseries/logitech etc RGB

>>62313788
Thats a shit list m8. If you want more inspiration then check out
https://deskthority.net/w/index.php?title=Category:List_of_all_keyboard_switches&pageuntil=GA+Alps+clone#mw-pages

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Speshul snowflake keyboards with faggot rainbow caps and braided cables piss me off so much.
They scream "LOOK AT ME".
Keyboards other than plain beige, gray or black should be illegal and colorization punished harshly by law.

>>62314184
Agreed, same goes for blinding white keyboard.

Also
>edgy pure black keyboard
No, beige or grey should be the only allowed colourways.

>>62314014
It's supposed to be a keyboard list, how does a list of switches help?

>>62312471
stop shilling for enjoypbt faggot

>>62314996
Then who would buy $100 keycaps?

>>62314637
Clicking on the switch will give you a list of keyboards that use that switch.

>>62314637
Its a whole lot easier then looking at the list of every keyboard as you can narrow it down by switch types, but have fun I guess
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:List_of_all_keyboards

>$80-90
>US
>Silent/soft
>60%
Don't care about leds or layout

What's a good recommended buy?

>>62315240
KBP V60 with matias QC

>>62314184
Braided cables are alright. They seem a lot less likely to get caught or tangled up and move a bit more freely imo

>>62309739
Deskthority!!

>>62315240
This >>62315249

>>62315842
Yep, this is why I don't get the anti-ortholinear fags. Yes, split ortholinear is the best, but even straight planck-style ortholinear is an improvement - it's slightly less optimised for the right hand, but a huge improvement for the left.

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>Leopold-FC660M-like PCB
>Anodized alu case
>all them case and plate colors
>$149
Is it just me or does this seem too good to be true?

>>62315842
Who the fuck uses their middle finger to hit 3? That's a ring finger job

>>62316029
Thats about right for chink shit.

>>62316029
That's pretty normal for KBDFans, the KBD75 is currently at $155, the Tina is $159 and the Niu is $105

>>62316041
>complaining about chink shit
>while very likely holding a smartphone made in China
Regardless. the thing is, a similar alu case is sold for $110 right now here: https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-High-quality-CNC-Anodizing-Aluminum-Case-for-LEOPOLD-FC660M-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Including-Alu/32683736577.html
That's why this seems weird to me.

>>62316077
Fuck your viet links you cunt. If you want to link something on an english speaking website, link the english site.

>>62316094
Yeah yeah, I'm spending the summer in these parts of the continents. My bad
But don't be a luddite grandpa now. There's an obvious "Go to global site" URL there..

>>62316077
>$110 for case
>$40 for plate and PCB
I don't see the problem.

>>62316112
Which redirects you to the homepage, because no-one can program a decent international website.

>>62316077
Again thats about right for chink shit. Chink PCBs like the gh60 usually cost 15-30 bucks. So 150 for the kit isn't abnormal

>>62307846
People only say topre is good to justify their purchase.

>>62307846
Enjoy your premium Japanese feeling of oneness with cup rubber infused with samurai spirit

>>62316338
Topre feel better than mx switches, but alps are still the best.

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Should I fucking buy it /mkg/?
The only issue I have is the short shift and nonstandard bottom row, but damn is this a good price.

>>62317520
If you want it buy it, it is a good keyboard.

>>62317565
Can you buy keycaps for it's weird layout??

>>62317591
You can buy keycaps for anything. It might sometimes cost a little bit extra, or be more annoying.

Though the default keycaps are god-tier so it's not like you'll need to replace them urgently. And since aesthetics are the main reason to replace them, chances are you're going to be shopping around meme sets and groupbuys, and those usually come with a shitton of options so you won't have any troubles.

>>62317779
Tbh senpai, I probably will never replace the keycaps, but I like to have options when I buy boards

>>62317807
Basically what I'm saying is that bog-standard $30 chink caps might not be easy to fit, but there's literally no reason to use those. If you really want to have the option to do that, too bad.
If you actually want to replace the caps you'll probably be looking at $100+ meme groupbuys, and those will definitely come in all shapes and sizes for literally everyone.

>>62317807
Enjoypbt covers it.

Redpill me on Gateron switches.
I really want Gat Greens

>>62317591
Yes, it also comes with enjoypbt keycaps which are the best keycaps you can get quality wise.

>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K4GXJMA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought this piece of shit and the A key stopped registering on every press and sometimes requires 2 presses to register. Any other KBs for 40$ or less that are also 12-13" in length or do I need to just replace this one and hope the next one isn't shit? Prefer reds and some kind of backlighting.

>>62318082
That's what you get.
As the chinklords say: "you get what you pay for"

>>62309739
can u give an honest opinion on the realforce

>>62318041
Tactile/linear gaterons: much smoother than cherry, superior. Literally made browns great again, since they're smooth and actually have tactility. (Though you still should be looking at alps if you want proper tactility, but that's obviously not an option.)

Clicky gaterons: higher-pitched click, some even say they're less tactile than cherries, though they're ever so slightly heavier. The jury's still out on this one.

In general: they have some wobble if you care, and I've heard about the occasional QC issues (though it's really more of a "made in china as opposed to in overpriced german factories" than a "sloppy poor-quality product you shouldn't trust" thing).

Tl;dr: if you want to save money, or want to try out something new, or your board doesn't have an option for cherry green, then there's nothing wrong with going for gateron. But if you really just want the best, stick to cherry for clicky switches right now (assuming of course buckling springs aren't an option).

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Anyone here using a Plum 84 with heavier domes? How is the tactility compared to cherry switches?

Just got a switch tester and I gotta say mod switches are superior to zealios, they are more tactile and have more snappiness to them. Zealios are a little smoother but I think lube would fix that problem.

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>>62318207
I can! I've owned quite a few realforces in the past with both 45g, 55g, and variable weights. They feel a lot like a HHKB (obviously, since they're both topre) but the realforce has a harsher landing, presumably due to the fact it is pcb mounted rather than case mounted, but it's also a lot smoother than the HHKB. If you want one, buy it. If you dislike it, return it.

>>62318515
There are multiple versions? I've got the 35g 84key version and I love it compared to MX blue/brown. They're a bit like mushier, softer reds. To be honest I never tried real Topres. I'd like to try heavier Topre/topre clones

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>>62318515
>>62318763
I'm using the 108 key variant with 55G domes that I installed myself. The feel is much closer to 45g topre, although I think 65g domes would feel the closest to that of case mounted topre on a HHKB.
In terms of tactility, they are far more superior than Blues, and browns.

Only a few months of posting here and I've already spent close to £600 on keyboards.

Help me

>>62311076
I'm late, but the reason that I like g20 over other profiles is because of how flat the surface is. Most keys that arc up to fit to a profile leave sharp edges and I find myself getting caught on them going for a letter. I like to glide my fingers over other keys when I type as it reduces travel time from one key to another.

Being flat and rounded on the edges, it feels smoother and is more comfortable as I don't find my fingers reaching for a tall top row.

>>62289816
>Grey
>With trackpoint
MY DICK IS DIAMONDS.

>>62319209
>>62311076
Oh, and I use MX Clears. I like them a lot, but I prefer blues. I like to gorilla pound my key lard and my fingies get tired.

>>62289755
>Budget
200
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX green or knockoff equivalent, blues are too light for me
>Layout
English US
>Form factor
104-Key (Macro keys optional)
>Backlight
Either no backlight or RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
Rosewill with MX Brown switches, and an old no-name with MX Blue.

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>>62319242
you're welcome? :)

>>62319320
Only thing I know of with MX greens are CM Storm TKLs. Haven't seen any full size with greens yet.

>>62318763
You can buy replacement domes on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electrostatic-Capacitive-Rubber-Dome-Sheet-35g-45g-55g-65g-/112137004390

>>62318833
Thanks that's sounds good. Are they feel different from a regular rubber dome?

>>62319471
They do feel different, all membrane domes have an inherited hard bottom out due to the rubber nubs on the inside of the domes (which is what hits the membrane sheet) the capacitive domes (both chink, and topre) don't have those so you get more travel with better tactile feedback once the dome buckles.

>>62319320
Get any Ducky keyboard with greens.

>>62319471
Is it an easy switch on Plum/Niz boards?

>>62319560
Yes but it takes quite a while. Completely disassemble the keyboard and then the internals, peel off the mat, move the springs to one side, drop the new mat on with the top of the keyboard upside down, then place the springs into each of the domes and put on the top PCB. Takes about 30 minutes.

Can't decide between Cherry mx blues or reds for my first mechanical keyboard. I even bought a switch tester, and still can't make up my mind. The hysteresis on the mx blues seems like it would kinda bother me, but the clickiness is so good. Any advice? Going to use for typing and gaming (MOBAs, so not super key spamming like FPS)

>>62320001
Get blues, reds are trash for typing.

>>62320001
Neither, get clears or topre

>>62320077
Whys that? Seems to me blues would fatigue you faster, whereas reds you can glide around

>>62320083
>get a $250 rubber dome

>>62320237
If blue switches tire you out you are very weak

>>62320296
just get the one for $140 bucks. No need to get some meme hi-pro keyboard

>>62320237
>>62320302
blues are essentially linear they have no noticeable bump

>>62320309
You can't get a Topre keyboard for 140$.

>>62320360
type heaven

>>62320352
Exactly, they're terrible, the only tactile cherry style switches I've found are the mod switches, clears, and zealios.

>>62320377
How are cherry greens?

>>62320365
Sure the cheapest option is for 144£, stop lying.

>>62320302
Okay. Not tire out, but requires more "effort" to hit the keys on blues than reds

>>62320423
Not as tactile as the other switches I've mentioned.

>>62320454
And you have to come up way higher to reset on the blues

>>62298953
JamesDonkey 619 or Mantistek GK2 on banggood if you want RGB
>>62300016
Gaote is outemu, they're decent.

>>62315874
Straight ortho just trades one set of compromises for another, it isn't better than traditional staggered

Thoughts on having a /mkg/ discussion channel on IRC? E.g. https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=/mkg/

>>62320443
no it isn't. Don't use amazon proxies and buy from official sellers instead

>>62320612
I think that having acceptable positioning for both hands is better than positioning tailored to one hand and completely out of whack to the other.

>>62319175
What have you bought?

>>62320691
Started with a tada68, since then I've ordered a cheapo memeforce numpad, an F77 with outrageous shipping, and just ordered a preonic kit

I would eventually want an ergodox with an aluminium case, but that's for later. I think I've got enough for now, plus I'll get proper typing experience on alps and buckling springs after a while of using those, and will be able to make more informed decisions on future purchases.

>>62320659
Only is you live in freedomland. You can't go cheaper than that in Europe.

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>>62319175
no one can help you now

>>62320812
That's a lot of IBM keyboards

>>62320803
You would still be better getting that over blues/reds

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>>62320848
it doesn't end there

>>62320902
That's a beamspring at the top, right? And why is there a naked one?

How much would you estimate your entire collection costs?

>>62320972
Yup, it's a beamspring 3278.

The SSK that has no case used to live inside the other white SSK case until I put some Model F internals in that one turning it into an 'FSSK'

No idea how much the collection would be worth, I've been selling a lot of the boards recently as it's getting difficult to rotate so many. No point keeping boards I don't use enough.

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Watched Gattaca today - can anyone identify this keyboard?

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>>62321639

>>62321639
>>62321654
That's an ISO 65%. I've never heard of something like that, which narrows down your options a lot - whatever it is, it could very well be the only keyboard in this layout.

>>62321673
No wait, it's not even ISO. It has a bigass-style enter that doesn't seem to be quite the proper size for a standard bigass enter, and ANSI left shift. Now I'm even more confused.

>>62321639
>>62321654
Its one of the qtronix scorpius keyboards. I forget the exact model #, but its a rubber dome with MX mount slidders

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>>62321696
>>62321673

Yeah, I've never seen something like this either. Thankfully as you say, it narrows it down.

>>62321782

Thanks. I'll look into that,

It's a shame if it's a rubber dome though. They actually show the keyswitch here.

For a film which has nothing to do with keyboards or computer hardware they show a lot of the keyboards.

>>62321890
>>62321782

I've found it, thanks - it's a qtronix 83A

Cherry mx reds or browns? Just for web browsing and the occasional MOBA

>>62322046
Completely up to preference, find a way to try them out. Some people absolutely love linear switches. Just don't fall for the "reds are for gaming" meme.

I personally would get gateron browns, because cherry browns have very little tactility. In fact, cherry switches aren't very smooth, which makes both their linear and tactile switches inferior to gateron.