/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Richard Stallman is a communist and a zealot.

>>62289185
Nice pic.

>>62289227
What the hell kid.

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I installed Arch on my laptop for fun, but there's no internet access on it after the installation finishes. Not even through cable (the interface's up tho) How do I fix this?

>>62289245
Free software sucks.

>>62289316
How did you configure your network?
dhcp?
netctl?
systemd-networkd?
journalctl -xe

>>62289316
Where the heck is that young ladies top

>>62289324
You suck.

Void Linux is a pretty good Gnu/Linux distro

>>62289379
It's void of packages though. If i wanted to manage all software manually i would use slack

>>62289379
It's dreck

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Install Gentoo

>>62289401
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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My GPU just died. I removed it and connected the integrated one to my monitor, but now Debian doesn't boot to a GUI.
Tried "service lightdm start" but it does nothing, and apparently fails to start.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to regain the video output. GRUB and the framebuffer work automatically, but X doesn't start.
I'm on Debian Buster (next stable) with Linux 4.12.

>>62289391
11769 binary packages is enough for me

>>62289427
Install Arch

>>62289357
None, only used wifi-menu during the installation. I guess it was a too big step for me after Debian

>>62289450
You need to configure your fucking network before you can use it assfag.
Read the god damn wiki for wifi and use netctl

>>62289427
Install Source mage

>>62289427
post Xorg.0.log

Which distro boots the fastest?

>>62289497
Gentoo

>>62289497
The one I'm using.

>everyday the same repeating topics

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>62289497
gentoo with systemd and other optimizations for fast booting

>>62289724
Try "yes"

>>62289769
best command

>>62289724
>red hat
sudo rm -rf ~

so for any of you familiar with Suckless software, specifically Surf,
how the shit do I customize it now? I just learned that they released version 2.0. I downloaded it and began to inspect the config.h and... there's nothing there.
In 0.6, I could customize the homepage, colors/themes, bookmarks, keybinds, everything. Now there's nothing in there and it doesn't seem like the settings are anywhere else either

what gives? did they just remove those features or what?

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My install is freezing when it hits the swap file. Few times I opened some large pictures (10,000x10,000) and I couldn't even move the cursor. Everything was fucking frozen.
I have 16GB or RAM + 16GB swap partition.
I did manage to get control back but it took like 30 seconds.
WTF is going on?
How do I prevent this from happening?
HALP!

I have a program that refuses to print something when stdout is not a terminal (so command > file doesn't work). Any ideas for a workaround?

>>62289963
>noobuntu girl
She's cute.

>>62289724

systemd-cgtop -h

Anyone here using sxhkd with lemonbar ?
How the hell do you autohide the panel ?
https://github.com/baskerville/sxhkd/issues/101

Searching for good cli/tui programs for monitoring shit like system, network, etc.

Already got htop.

>>62290023
top

>>62289992
wonder what she looks like now... prolly fat with some kids. kek.

>>62289478
Took me a while to figure out how to upload it. Here it is: https://hastebin.com/raw/ulelupiceg
I think it's still expecting the ATI GPU, but it also can't find a screen?

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Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
No systemd (they've implemented their own init scripts system http://sourcemage.org/Init).
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (package build files) not found in the grimoire (repository of spells) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/

Installing SMGL is easy, here's the simplified process:
>boot a live Ubuntu (or whatever) USB drive
>go to SMGL website and download compressed archive of the base system
>partition and mount partition(s)
>extract the archive onto the new partition(s)
>chroot, set root passwd, hostname, configure network and locale, write fstab, install grub/lilo
>reboot
>compile a kernel (preferably the newest stable one from kernel.org)
>update sorcery, grimoires and the build toolchain
>rebuild the system (hold spells you've already built, so you don't build them twice)
The install guide will hold your hand through the whole process http://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot
Do the chroot method, since the regular live ISO method guide is out of date currently.

Here's a list of common commands: https://pastebin.com/i4DALaNV

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>>62289474
>>62290307
Sup niggas

>>62289497
Solus

>>62290023
why not just use conky?

>>62290333
fuck off kevin

Does adding GNU before Linux in applications makes me look better or worse to a potential employer?
I'm thinking adding GNU makes me look involved in the community and I'm not some fag that installed Mandriva 10 years ago and hasn't touched Linux since but at the same time I feel like it makes me look like a stallman worshiper that eats shit from his foot.
Thought?

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>>62290023
inxi
bmon
ncdt/Ncdu
multiTail/lnav
vnStat/iftop
procps (ps, free, vmstat, top, pmap, nice)
Sysstat (sar, mpstat, pidstat, iostat, sadf)
nmon

>>62290388
drop the gnu, you're looking to get into the for profit game, people will tend to be wary of you if you indicate a gnu mindset. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is

>>62290388
It's time to face the facts. Richard Stallman is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that RMS has done after 1995 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible speech.

He demands that Linux be called GNU/Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason GNU, GPL, and FSF are still a THING is because of Linus and the invention of Linux. If anything, Stallman should rename GNU to Linux/GNU, because without Linus, the GNU, GPL, and FSF would not be a thing anymore.

Stallman still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole. Stallman has not even programmed a single line of code since 2008, that was AFTER he essentially stopped in 1992.

He should be fucking grateful Linus stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for Linus, he would be nothing, he would probably be dead in a Burger King dumpster right now.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written eMacs, but in reality he actually cloned gosmacs (the first eMacs that was made for UNIX). He didn't even write 50% of the code in eMacs.

You might say he wrote GCC and GDB, but the truth is that he initally wrote the C compiler, but now the vast majority for the same compiler is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in the Soviet Union. Face it GNU/Freetards, Richard Stallman is a fat dickhead, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Linus's achievements.

>>62290388
Better when it's on paper, less so when it's coming out of your mouth. I doubt it'll make you look bad saying it a few times. But if you have to keep saying it over and over I'd drop the GNU or it'll make them wonder if you're an activist or something.
and especially if they say "Linux" themselves, I wouldn't push the GNU.

>>62290427
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you proprietary slave? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Harvard, and I’ve been involved in numerous free software projects, and I have contributed to over 300 core-utils for GNU. I am skilled in Lisp and I’m St. IGNU-cius, saint of the Church of Emacs. You are nothing to me but just another unethical non-free software advocate. I will distribute the fuck out of your source code with freedom the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me and the GPL on the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my colleagues at FSF and your binaries are being reversed engineered right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your copyright. You're fucking dead, kid. Free software can be anywhere, anytime, and it can ensure your freedom in over four ways, and that’s just with the GPLv2. Not only am I extensively skilled at hacking, but I have access to the source of the entire GNU userland and core-utils and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable proprietary code off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what ethical retribution your little “clever” program was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have ensured your users' freedom. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit free as in freedom all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

What's the word on Purism? Only threads I found in search were outright marketing OPs.

>>62290472
https://hackerfall.com/story/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same

>>62290427
>Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole.
He actually never said that.

>>62290472
I prefer librem's computer themselves, not the distro.

>>62290580
Actually real stallman.org, faggot

>>62290606
I did. Maybe you should?
https://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29

>>62290606
And this: https://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#27_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29

>>62290427
What makes people posting this every day?

>>62290656
mental defect.

>>62290656
it's a direct reaction to gnufaggotry trying to grab all the glory from linus' hard work

>>62290656
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bait-this-is-bait

>>62290677
Just consider: the GNU Project starts developing an operating system, and years later Linus Torvalds adds one important piece. The GNU Project says, “Please give our project equal mention,” but Linus says, “Don't give them a share of the credit; call the whole thing after my name alone!” Now envision the mindset of a person who can look at these events and accuse the GNU Project of egotism.

>>62290677
>linus' hard work
~98% of of Linux is written by companies and the community.

>>62290698
It was more like Linus saying "people can call it like they want" and giving foot to anti-gnu fuckers from Microsoft and company to bury the importance of the GNU project for a while.

>>62290224
>No devices detected.
Its not finding your card. Do you have an xorg.conf?

So I've been using entry level distros for a while now, and I'm considering moving on to Void as my first DIY. Am I going to regret this?

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>>62290751
void is void of packages

>>62290727
It's an empty file.

I just tried KDE for the first time. And now I can say it's fucking trash.

>>62290753
>I can't read, the post

>>62290765
>t. GNOMElet

>>62290771
"I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" - Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs, misquoting a Chicago Mayor

>>62289963
Lower the swappiness by a large degree. In general, the more amount of RAM you have, the lower the swappiness should be. You can basically set it to 0.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap#Swappiness
https://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness

>>62290785
Glad you finally got it.

>>62290774
Shit's broken af. GNOME at least give you a great out of the box experience.

>>62290804
He meant what he said, faggot.

Are there any compositors on GNU/Linux that actually work with high refresh rates? i have a 144Hz monitor but the only way to actually use it is to disable compositing, which of course causes screen tearing and stuttering. I've tried GNOME, KDE and LXQT and when I enable vsync they all lock to 60, regardless of what I do. I enabled 144Hz in the Nvidia Settings menu, but that only affects the mouse. Any drawn windows and internet browsers still run at 60fps causing judder. Is there any way to actually lock fps to 144? Tried editing the kwin config file, changed MaxFPS, RefreshRate and Vblank all to 144 and that did fuck all.

>>62290820
Whats wrong with that?

>>62290819
At least KDE doesn't remove features

>>62290822
xfwm4

>>62290819
GNOME has a terrible oob experience, it's like the Windows 8 of GNU/Linux.
>no real menus on screen
>click applications tab
>vomits icons all over your screen
Fuck that shitty tablet DE.

>>62290830
>GNUfag logic: reject Stallman said a thing and when he gets called out say there is nothing wrong with what he said

https://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#27_October_2011_(Steve_Jobs)

>>62290863
Who needs menus when you already know what you have on your computer? Just go to Activities and type what you want.

>>62290400
>inxi
>looking this to see more info
>literally the most autistic readme Github I've ever seen
https://github.com/smxi/inxi

>>62290801
>Lower the swappiness by a large degree. In general, the more amount of RAM you have, the lower the swappiness should be. You can basically set it to 0.
My swappiness is:

$ cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
1

which is pretty low as it is. don't think this is the issue.

maybe limiting memory per process would help?

>>62290764
Delete xorg.conf.Post anything you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Assuming you have an integrated intel apu?
Put this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf.

Section "Device"
  Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
  Driver      "intel"
EndSection

>>62290891
Which program are you using to open these big images?

Maybe my thinking is wrong, but 10k x 10k probably shouldn't cause freezing if a decent amount of your RAM is free.

>>62290955
>Which program are you using to open these big images?
Just gThumb.
My biggest worry is how my system becomes unstable as soon is it hits the swap. I've used Windows with pagefile and macOS and neither of those totally froze as soon as I ran out of memory.
I feel like I haven't configured something properly. I'm now afraid of hitting the memory limit.
Also, one time last year Xorg was leaking RAM and froze my system solid. I had to do alt+ctrl+f1 to get a shall and kill it. This lockup shouldn't be happening. No idea how to make it more sane though...

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Install systemd

>>62291001
add
vm.vfs_cache_pressure=25

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>>62291040
I'm shutting down this post

Anyone have experience running gnu/linux on one of these?

https://www.amazon.com/Chromebook-Rockchip-Pearl-White-Light/dp/B00VUV0MG0/

>>62291082
>amazon
botnet

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>>62290944
I don't know of this or sudo X -config did the trick, but now I have video output again.
Thank you.

>>62291048
I have it... from the day I installed Arch in Jan of 2016....

$ cat /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf
vm.swappiness=1
vm.vfs_cache_pressure=50

I just can't seem to fix the audio crackling when using headphones on Ubuntu. I know that it's not the headphone, because it works on Windows and openSuse Tumblweed.

Just reading "Just for fun".
>Welcome to Silicon Valley. One of the first things I got to do upon landing in this strange galaxy was to meet the stars.
>I received an email from Steve Jobs’s secretary about how he’d like to meet me and could I spare an hour or two. Not knowing what it was all about, I said sure.
>The meeting was at Apple’s headquarters on Infinity Loop Drive. It was with Jobs and his chief technical guy, Avie Tevanian. This was when Apple was starting work on OS X, the Unix-based operating system that wasn’t released until September 2000. There wasn’t much formality to the meeting. Basically, Jobs started off by trying to tell me that on the desktop there were just two players, Microsoft and Apple, and that he thought that the best thing I could do for Linux was to get in bed with Apple and try to get the open source people behind Mac OS X.
lmao

>>62290763
It's also void of systemD.

>>62291001
I mean, there's not much to configure in Linux in terms of memory. The other thing is that it's not so much "freezing" as it is the system being slow with anything that's not the "hot" process. Furthermore, a lot of it is on the program itself to figure out what to do if the memory is low.

IMO, consider using a different default image viewer. As a potentially suicidal test, try opening the image in your web browser. I'd bet that, although it might slightly slow your system, it won't leak and use excessive amounts of memory.

Also
>GNOME
found your problem

>>62291119
Yes, but its at 50 and not a lower value.Read what it does and with swappiness at 1 you want a lower pressure

Why do some distros still come with gnome or kde as standard?

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I don't know whether to ask this here or on /sqt/.

My Ubuntu "Install alongside Windows [7]" is not working. It will boot directly into Windows without ever seeing GRUB. Already tried Legacy and UEFI.

This is on a laptop that used to have W8. I changed it to W7 and ever since GRUB won't load.

>>62291254
you didnt install grub properly
follow the arch wiki on dual booting and use os prober and install grub properly

>>62291254
installing windows will fuck your bootloader thats a well known fact.
try booting from a stick and reinstalling grub

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>>62291234
what manner of sorcery is this

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>>62291179
>Furthermore, a lot of it is on the program itself to figure out what to do if the memory is low.
Yeah, problem is that most of them don't give a shit and believe that OS should somehow control them.
> try opening the image in your web browser
that actually works fine. I'm concerned about the ROOT CAUSE of this because I'm bound to encounter another runaway process in the future... something will eat up CPU/leak RAM and it will hit my swap file and freeze my system. That's what I want to prevent at all costs.

>>62291212
>Yes, but its at 50 and not a lower value.Read what it does and with swappiness at 1 you want a lower pressure
OK. I'll try 25.


TO ALL: Out of curiosity. how much mem are your various image viewers consuming when opening GIF related?

>>62291293
mpv uses 655mb loading that gif

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>mfw try fedora and xubuntu in virtualbox
>mfw it's garbage that needs work
>mfw fuck that i'm sticking to mac "it just werks" os

with regards to xfce: is there any way to have a secondary monitor to the left of the primary monitor?

as things stand, from everything i can gather, the "primary monitor" checkbox is a placebo, and xfce always considers the leftmost monitor the primary monitor due to the way it handles workspaces. i'd rather not do some niggardly workaround like moving my panels and icons to the rightmost monitor, because a lot of shit will still default to the leftmost (secondary) monitor.

>>62291468
You can make a config with the settings proper in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf
Check what is needed based on your gpu type and setup your monitors how you want them according to xrandr names

>>62291239
Because not everybody appreciates cinnamon.
I know.
Crazy.

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maybe someone went through this
x220 running Antergos, went to hibernation and now is not booting.
I'm getting a

ERROR: resume: hibernation device "uuid=somethingsomethinguuidfromswappartition" not found

The uuid is actually the one from the swap partition. Looked for this on the web and most people solved it booting with a live usb and changing the uuid info on /etc/defaults/grub (and on /boot/grub/grub.cfg) to actually the /dev/sdaX that is the swap partition.
Did that and after it tells me it can't resume also tells me it can't find the root partition and tells me I'm being dropped to a recovery shell but sh: can't access tty; job control turned off so I'm shit outta luck.
Picture somewhat related because the error is similar.
Any ideas on how to solve it? Am I missing something (besides being a clueless faggot)?

>>62291493
is there anything i can change in the config that would rectify the issue of the leftmost monitor always being considered the primary monitor, however?

as things stand, i can position my secondary monitor to the left of my main monitor without issue, but xfce considers the leftmost monitor (in this case, my secondary monitor) the primary monitor. apparently the primary flag just simply doesn't work in xfce, because it treats both monitors as being one huge workspace rather than two separate workspaces, so the leftmost is always considered the primary monitor

>>62291594
>You can make a config with the settings proper in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf
>Check what is needed based on your gpu type and setup your monitors how you want them according to xrandr names

>>62291613
sorry im a dumb babby

truth be told i dont even see that .conf in that folder, just a .conf for the keyboard

>>62291636
if its not there make it

>>62291636
You make one

I have an ntfs drive, is samba my only option if I want to use it as network storage?

>>62291702
yes

>>62291702
no

>>62291702
maybe

>>62291702
I don't know

Thoughts? https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbbq/

>>62291702
probably

>>62291972
trash-tier

>>62291293
1.1 GiB, wtf

I've been dual booting with Solus and now Manjaro with Windows 10 for awhile but I can't seem to find Windows 10 in any of the GRUB or BIOS menus when rebooting. It seems clear that everything from Windows 10 is still there, but I just don't have the option anymore.

I've tried using Super Grub Disk2 lately to recover it, but it says to load it I need to set it to BIOS compatibility mode though there is nothing in any of its menus (or anything else) prompting me to do that.

Any of y ou know what I might be doing wrong? I feel like I was too retarded to be messing around with this shit in the first place.

>>62291293
sxiv got fucked and used ~3GB of RAM.

I dunno. I know it's absurd to say, but just don't do super memory-intensive things?

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>>62290867
>Jobs' success at hypnotizing millions of people into a perverse love for the walled garden is more dangerous to freedom in the long term than [Microsoft co-founder] Bill Gates's efficient but brutal and unattractive corporatism. People feared and respected Microsoft, but they love and worship Apple - and that is precisely the problem, precisely the reason Jobs may in the end have done more harm than good.
>http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3790#more-3790

>>62291421
>>62292313
damn
>>62292475
>I dunno. I know it's absurd to say, but just don't do super memory-intensive things?
that's almost as retarded as saying: don't use a fucking computer.

>>62292501
>that's almost as retarded as saying: don't use a fucking computer.

Well, that's debatable. Because CPU-intensive stuff is common and the entire point of computing. Memory-intensive stuff is always a badly/awkwardly-handled thing.

I need a new, interesting WM. Suggestions?

>>62291293
why does this eat up so much memory?

>>62292549
fluxbox

>>62292580
Wierd way to spell Openbox.

>>62292549
sure, write "window manager" on your favorite search engine and chose one from there

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>>62292573
Try this one

>>62292600
kys antisocial snob
>>62292549
bspwm, 2bwm, wmutils

>>62292618
are you okay anon, did you hurt your head or something?

>>62292606
i aint clickin that shit nigga

>>62292549
stacking or tiling? compositing or not?
anyways check out moksha, it's a fork of e17 with backports of the good features without the stupid changes enlightenment has been making lately.

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>>62292467

>>62291727
>>62291732
>>62291801
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>>62292014
I ended up mounting it on the device and then sshfs to my home folder

why would i use sabayon when gentoo exists?

I'm trying to install arch on an x220 tablet from an old flashdrive. Made flashdrive bootable using unetbootin, yet trying to boot from the flashdrive gets me a kernel panic
>not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
wtf m80s

>>62293599
Nevermind, unetbootin is no longer king it seems. Got it working with rufus in dd mode.

I'm trying to get the position of a cursor in C/C++. The only way of doing this (without implementing some sort of logic to track the cursor position) is by using control sequence DSR as defined in ISO/IEC 6429 (see ECMA 48) with an argument of 6.

std::cout << "\x1b\x5b6\x6e";

This will add the following CPR string to the std::cout and std::cin buffers, assuming the cursor is at row 32, column 6.

^[[32;6R

By using the termios.h library, I can disable the terminal-echo of characters written to std::cout and I can make std::cin non-blocking. However, there's a problem.
If any input is written to the std::cin buffer (before or after it is made non-blocking) before or after the CPR is written to the std::cin buffer, it becomes difficult to parse, especially because I DON'T want the CPR in the std::cin buffer and I DON'T want to get rid of any user input (since that is up to the client to handle).
Here's a possible (partial) solution:
Swap the old std::cin buffer with another stream's buffer, *, request the CPR, *, put the old buffer back; parse the other stream's buffer.
But, at the positions marked by an *, the user may still pollute the stream with input and it will be lost even if the CPR is correctly parsed within the buffer. It's worth mentioning that I know ncurses exists, but I'm trying to solve this without using ncurses.

>tl;dr
How do I redirect the CPR generated by a DSR to a stream other than std::cin? Are there alternate ways of obtaining the cursor position without tracking it since the application began?

>>62293782
We're dumb in here. Better ask >>>/g/dpt

>>62293911
>go to /sqt
>get sent to /fglt/
>go to /fglt/
>get sent to /dpt/
>go to /dpt/
>

Why doesn't anyone write free wifi drivers?

Thoughts on Tumbleweed?

>>62293925
People would if they could, but all you have is reverse engeneering and thats A LOT of work.

how can I keep my external hard drive from spinning down on linux??

install GNU go

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>install xubuntu on desktop
>don't make swap partition so I can have two distros on this hard drive, and because 8gb RAM
>RAM still being eaten up more than Jabba the Hut at a pizza parlor
Is it better to make swap space via partition, or will it still be just as good if I just use disk space?

>>62294052
try changing the APM settings with hdparm

How about this: We go to /dpt/ and try to find some fellows who create a GTK fork with a proper filepicker.

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>>62294559
I'll make the logo.

sudo -e file

or

sudoedit file

or

sudo program file

?

>>62294609

alias s='sudo '
alias se='sudo -e '

`sudo program' is simply stupid. Why not use the features sudoedit provides when you run sudo anyway?

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Dont you think that GNU Gnash has the coolest GNU logo? https://www.gnu.org/graphics/package-logos.html

>>62294609
sudo -E vim file
Because I want my comfy vim setup

>>62295047
Why dont you have it via -e?

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Opinions on whiptail/dialog dialogs? Do you think dialogs are convenient or do you prefer no menus at all and just cli switches?

>>62295171
I have my prompt command set up to play different autistic screeches based on the exit code of the previous command.

>>62294683
>the clisp logo

OY the motherfucking VEY

>>62293925
1. because wifi hardware manufacturers are faggots and they don't provide documentation for their hardware and make hardware that doesn't function without nonfree firmware
2. reverse engineering is a bitch and it is always prohibited by the EULA of proprietary crapware drivers
3. they are not interested in writing free drivers because lol who cared about the 2% loonix marketshare also muh trade secrets.

>>62295347
>they are not interested in writing free drivers because lol who cared about the 2% loonix marketshare also muh trade secrets.
And people developing actual products using the chips pay for help with integration.

>>62295216
post sauce nigga, this sounds beautiful

>>62295171
Depends on the target.
Normies will enjoy it, for hackers dialogs are stones in the way to what you actually want.

That said, when your stuff is actually complex and not some yes/no thingy, menues can be cool.

Just check if it makes sense and speeds up what you want to archive. Also, there's no quarantee that any dialog program is avalable on a system.

>>62289379
Lack of packages sucks
Having to compile many things from source is just annoying

>>62295347
>2. reverse engineering is a bitch and it is always prohibited by the EULA of proprietary crapware drivers
Just saying: This tricky. It becomes legal when you actually accept some EULA, but it doesn't prevent you from reverse engeneering when you don't.

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>>62295641
Classic hacking.

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>page 9

GNU/Dead thread

>>62289316
Arch wiki is the greatest thing ever. Why aren't you using it?

What are the best virtual machine software on Linux for the purpose of emulating windows?

I want to do some experiments with windows 7 under various configurations and see which internet connections it makes.

I'm trying to repartition my SSD so i can dual boot (i have some specific applications that wont work under WINE) but windows 7 keeps on bitching about "immovable files".
Does anyone know a way around this? i couldn't find a method that actually worked.

I need your input on linux anons. Git in here >>62298036

>>62297562
If you don't need GPU passthru then VirtualBox

-free software
-full featured GUI with powerful command line tools
-effortless bridged networking OOB
-can utilize kvm
-windows additions for win2k or newer for mouse integration, GPU with acceleration and custom resolutions fitting the size of the window you wish to run it in and folder sharing
-latest version is available from oracle for all major distros

I want to change my distro from fedora to antergos but keeping my configurations. But I don't think I separated my home partition from my /partition. Is there anyway I can do that? Or can I just install an OS overtop of the current one and keep everything?

>>62298402
Boot up a live system from USB, then there are two viable options:
-delete everything from your HDD but the /home folder. From the installer select "keep" when it asks you if it should format the partition
-resite your root partition then copy the contents of your /home directory to the new partition. Then from the new system mount the new partition to /home and remember again to "keep" data on it.

Never install a system on top of another without deleting the old one first.

>>62298218
Because I'm interested in just one experiment I've decided to install VMware pro and use the 30 days trail.

Also I might just reset the trail if I feel so later on.

>>62298628
vmware has a free to use version (vmware player). Good enough for simple windows VMs.

Guys help a goy out.

Only thing which is holding me from going full balls in and installing Linux is what I have to do when installing it on ssd, what type of file system what other things to take care of before going on.

I'm going to install Arch.

>>62298992
There is a dedicated page to SSD on Arch wiki.

>>62299005
Yea I've read it, it's about what to do once you've installed Arch and how to make it maintain your ssd.

>>62299009
Yeah

why can i not find a vim baseball hat ANYWHERE

>>62299480
On a similar note, I would kill for a white sweater with just the Emacs logo on it. Or even just FSF. I don't know why, but I just seriously want one. I would pay $50 easily for the FSF to make one for me.

Of course, there's no point in having one if the money doesn't go to the FSF. A shitty bootleg sweater would be shameful to wear.

>>62299710
agreed

>>62298992
There's not much you have to do. I'd suggest using ext4 for the root fs but NOT adding `discard` to fstab. Instead, enable the fstrim systemd .service. It automatically runs fstrim command once a week.

Did anyone else on arch linux today get a new mirrorlist in pacman update?

>>62289463
woah

>>62299761
Its common
Use reflector though

>>62299781
It imported a new key and I just wanted to be on the safe side. Is there a command that will list recently imported keys? I want to double check what the key was

>>62299792
pacman tells you the key when you agree to verify it.

>>62299820
I made the mistake of trusting the key before verifying it and I want to go back and see the last imported key

>>62299835
Check the gpg wiki page

>>62299835
Check /var/log/pacman.log for the key
Btw, archlinux-keyring is the pkg you're looking for and not the mirrorlist

>>62291537
The sleep and root device are passed to the kernel/initrd from bootloader.
If you're using GRUB, press e when the right boot entry is highlighted and then you can edit it.
Correct the values and then press Ctrl+x or F10 to boot, and then you can fix it from your system.

Also, you don't really need job control - that's for running several programs in the background.

>>62289497
source mage

Why doesn't vim have a default key combo to cycle through buffers? It seems utterly stupid to omit something that many people would find useful.

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Should i install "standard system utilities" during Ubuntu mini net install? Pic related.

I want to be able to write japanese (kanji and kana) on Linux.

Where do I start looking?

>>62300748
Dunno, but FYI ubuntu net install does not support UEFI by default.

>>62301121
gimp2

>>62301121
IBus + Anthy/Mozc

>>62301121
Once upon a time, SCIM was doing that job, but now it's a mess, since SCIM is not updated anymore and to software autists, "not updated" means "unusable". Look up for UIM maybe...

For 16 gb of ram and no plan on ever using hibernation, maybe even shutting my PC down every 2 - 3 days do I need more than 0.5x of ram SWAP file?

Also should I put the swap file on ssd ( same place where Linux is going to be installed ) or move it to old school HDD?

>>62301181
https://onetransistor.blogspot.ro/2015/12/install-ubuntu-minimal-cd-uefi-enabled.html

Whats wrong with ubuntu?

>>62301524
noobuntu*
lol just install arch

>>62301524
Previously, Amazon telemetry. Currently, Unity. In the future, GNOME.

Ubuntu flavors like Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu might be better. For anyone with know-how, you
should just use Debian.

>>62301496
You dont need swap

>>62301507
Yeah, by default.

>>62301121
Just use ibus+mozc
It's basically the standard. Even on Windows most people consider Google's IME to be the best, and Mozc is basically Google's IME (It's the open source version of it which is almost identical aside from a few unimportant features)

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What was your first experience with GNU/Linux?

I was 12 when I ordered those free Ubuntu CDs Canonical used to ship anywhere in the world (pic related was the one I got) because hey, it was free and I had never received a package from another country so I was interested.

When the CDs arrived two months later I loved the desktop environment so much I used ubuntu for everything but games for a couple years, sadly I went back to Windows for convenience but I still loved FOSS.

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>>62301537
How am I supposed to program cuda on arch? Looks like a meme distro.

>>62301680
Got my grandma's old laptop with Ubuntu when I was 15.

>>62301895
<pacmanwrapperofyourchoice> <installswitch> cuda

arch wiki > cuda

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>>62301895
>cuda

>>62301895
Basically any respectable programmer uses: Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian as desktop from which he develops.

Good luck having to do meaningless patching 9/10 of the time spent in front of the computer instead of actual work.

>>62301966
Is fedora basically stable red hat?

>>62301181
What does that mean?

>>62302023
Other way around. Red Hat is stable Fedora.

>>62301966
cool story bro, but actual stability only exists in slackware

>>62302058
That doesn't make any sense

>>62302023
If you want Server stuff and free with Red Hat tier of quality go CentOS it's the second most used distribution of top 500 supercomputers in the world after no. 1 which is just hacked / custom linux kernel / tools with no name of course.

>>62302078
it makes perfect sense dumbass. slackware is stable, everything else is not. and any claims to the contrary are complete shite. the buntus crash and are buggy, so is fedora, and so is debian. slackware however is rock solid stable

https://regexcrossword.com/

>>62302105
Slackware is DIY, if you fuck up then no it's not stable at all.
and even the most experienced users are going to fuck something up from time to time the difference is that they know how to fix it.

It's the same shit on any distro, the 1st line of responsibility is just placed on the shoulders of the distro maintainers. But if they fuck up you can still fix it. So what's the difference?
You're just lumping the whole process into 1 thing for slackware because compiling/fixing shit is a part of the standard way of doing things rather than an exception to the rule, but that's an unfair comparison.

>>62302105
https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/
No slackware... but projects that range from hundreds of millions of dollars to billions use centOS, ubuntu Redhat linux.. wew.

Same goes for web servers.

I guess you know better than what the rest of the planet considers smart and successful people.

>>62302173
dude, pebkak has nothing to do with distro stability, instability is considered to be distro maintainers pushing buggy software into updates

>>62302199
yeah, we're talking workstations not servers bruh. servers are inherently more stable no matter the distro because of fewer updates being pushed

>>62302232
Yes and workstations ago you have many sources, but best you can do is go around different companies that have multiple programmers.

You'll see people using Ubuntu and Fedora

Tho I understand if your workstation is for ricing and desktop threads I can see your reasoning working...

>>62301680
I was one of these guys who always had a terminal window open - on Windows. I wrote shit in Batch, VBScript and pretty much riced the shit out of Windows till I finally broke it completly. Found an USB with Ubuntu on it, I couldn't even remember why I made one. Plugged it in and ended up installing it, because holy shit this was nice.
When I look back, I pretty much never cared about the Free Software aspects for years till I coincidentally learned about RMS and the GNU project and saw the light.


tl;dr broke Windows, installed GNU/Linux, fell in love with RMS, never looked back

>>62289769
yes no

>>62302252
>he says confidently from his mothers basement
ok chucklefuck, look at the so called output of those who use those distros, their code is buggy shit so obviously they no nothing about stability

>>62301680
/desktop thread/ made me install arch linux

>>62301680
borked a win95 install with fdisk, so actually went out and bought redhat, and discovered the horror that was winmodems

>>62301680
>finish Bachelors degree
>get job as code monkey to pay for housing while getting Masters degree
>time to set up my work computer!
>coworker says we're supposed to use Windows which is automatically managed and updated and booted via network
>but she can't help me with problems there because she uses Ubuntu
>been meaning to give it a try anyway after friend kept raving about OpenSUSE being cool
>install it
>holy shit this is nice for software dev work
>I wonder how it is on my home computer
>but I'll dual boot in case I want to go back to Windows or don't know how to do XYZ
>fuck up install process and wipe entire HDD
>fuck it, go balls deep and install Xubuntu
>spend 90% of first month at work reading the word of RMS and fooling around with GNU/Linux
>end up being more competent at bash scripting and managing my system than coworker
>never look back

>>62302105
I use slackware myself, and I can assure you that Slackware isn't stable, and it most certainly has its fair share of bugs--some of which, I've witnessed firsthand. Current is better, but there's the inherent instability that comes with using a testing branch.

What the "Slacker" philosophy means isn't that their (really just the one guy and also AlienBob) intention is to make a stable distro--if you want a stable distro, use Debian--although stability does come with Slack-ness. The point is that the maintainers do their best not to fuck up your install through pointless intervention. Really, Slackware is the epitome of vanilla GNU/Linux, idiosyncrasies and all; it's the basis upon which I think someone ought to gauge GNU/Linux's efficacy, which I think is a beautiful thing, but its stability relative to other distros, in my opinion, isn't so much a testament of Slackware's being better, so much as it is the desktop market's growing tolerance to blatant instability. Slackware isn't stable; distros like Arch are just exceedingly unstable as a consequence of their priorities.

Also, this >>62302173

Someone pls write a script that replaces every buzzword with some arse word.
>industry standards - > ass standards
>security oriented -> ass oriented
>enterprise ready -> ass ready
>workstation -> ass station
>professional -> anal
>lightweight -> tight

>>62302493
Haha epic post bro, how was your 13th birthday? Must have been a hektik weekend last week.

>>62302493
>his brain can't sed when reading

>>62302493
Some years ago there was a browser addon which replaced every "cloud" to "butt", it was pretty popular for a while. Get the source, extend it. You're welcome.
>saved it in my butt

Is it normal for arch to be unstable when dual booting with windows? It runs great with no dual boot on my thinkpad but crashes all the time on my pc

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What are some cool GNU packages?

>>62302692
Emacs

>>62302723
That's an operating system

>>62302692
parallel, stow, xaos

>>62302692
shred to wipe your gnu coreutils
plan9port for the right set of system tools

>>62302692
GNU Ring is pretty neat, also on Android.

>>62302692
Gnu Shepherd, Gcc

>>62302821
really wished that one of all these skype/whatsapp replacements would catch on
when you have a social life, its pretty hard to keep away from this, especially whatsapp

>>62302684
Did you fuck up the install?
its not arch's fault, its the user using arch's fault

>>62302868
I could have fucked it, was just wondering if it was common for arch to not play well with wangblows

>>62302887
Why would you think it would be?

How can i disable main menu transparency in kde? I've disabled transparency in effects, but menu still semi-transparent.

>>62302692
screen

>>62301680
Used an OpenSuse (I think) LiveCD as a recovery disk to fix something that had broken on windows.
It was a lot of fun so I started reading more about GNU/Linux and eventually installed Ubuntu, and then shortly after thought I'd try Gentoo (I never knew it was a meme at the time, I just independently decided portage sounded awesome)

>>62303264
>not tmux
get with the times grandpa

when i use full terminal emulation with ctrl alt f1 on debian, does that make it so it's using as much battery as if i don't have a gui running at all? because hitting alt f7 will exit it back to the old state of your gui so i'm not sure

>>62303740
i dont think that will make a difference anon

>>62303524
screen is better.

>>62303841
logically, running no graphical environment will use less battery than using a graphical environment. how do i do that?

>>62303999
i don't understand what you mean

>>62304017
a graphical environment requires more processes to be run than a text-only environment (such as keeping track of the mouse), which requires more energy to be consumed by cpu in processing them

>>62300081
thanks anon, I will try that as soon as I get back home from work this weekend. Good thing is that I own more than one x220 and both have pretty much the same exact specs/configs and it will come in handy if the this one craps out too.

>>62304135
i ment what you was asking, not the logic you presented
but i suppose you want to not boot into a graphical environment - rather it just be a text console see this https://askubuntu.com/questions/870221/booting-into-text-mode-in-16-04/870226

when i try to install brackets (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/brackets/) i get
/my/brackets/dir is not clone of
https://github.com/adobe/brackets.git
error, what do i do

Has anyone tried the Zile editor? Is it any good?

>>62303740
Install powertop and track what consumes power the most.

Usually, it's the display and the radio devices which suck the most juice, GPUs don't waste power when practically idle.

>>62304149
i'm asking does ctrl alt f1 cause as much battery to be used as not booting into a graphical environment to begin with

>>62301421
>>62301428
>>62301651
Thanks a lot, guys.

>try mate
>old machine, really slow
>try lxde
>still slow
>apt-get remove --purge lxde
>still offers an lxde login session

What do, boiz?

>>62304241
Using Debian Stretch.
Also, KDE (Debian Jessie) crashes on RDP login

>>62302897
memes about arch not being stable mostly

>>62304335
The memes are made by users like your self who cant follow the arch wiki and then come in whining like a baby

>>62304359
I'm not whining though, I like arch

>>62304335
>>62304359
Typical dipshit Arch reply.

Arch is unstable if you use anything outside of its main repository, which is full of vanilla boring shit that they don't need much manpower to maintain.

AUR is a fucking joke.

>>62304381
>Is it normal for arch to be unstable

>>62304382
>Arch is unstable if you use anything outside of its main repository,
This is a grand jew lie

Installed Ubuntu gnome a couple of days back. The only issue is that WiFi keeps disconnecting at random intervals . Any fixes for that? 16.04 LTS

>>62304445
can you try and be more spefic..?
is the only information you can provide 'it goes off sometimes'?

>>62304406
Well he's right. The AUR is not maintained by any security team or even official supported.
Funny that Arch users praise the AUR, however.

>>62302692
Emacs (if it cool emacs-nox)

>>62304490
Whats different from adding in your precious third party repos to enable 90% of the software you want to use cause of KEKED main distro repos?

Absolutely zero

>>62304445
Check dmesg to see the cause of deconnection.
If it's a deauthentication by choice, your wireless card and/or your wireless network are shit. If a kernel module oops or crash is involved, look up the bugzillas and report if the issue has not been brought in before.

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>>62292606
werks on my machine

>be ubuntu noob
>learn linux, read documentations, wikies
>everywhere I get warned about third party repos and ppas
>come to /g/
>everywhere I get shilled arch's great third party repos and packagebuilds
???

>>62289427
Install Linux Mint (for real)

>>62304605
This is a friendly thread. No trolling pls.

>>62304601
>everywhere I get warned about third party repos and ppas
If only this were true. Look at all these horrible crap like OMGUbuntu and simliar websites.
>hey we got <random program>, here's the PPA
>hey we got <random botnet>, here's how to install it

>>62289185
I'm currently using Debian but it's kinda shit.

iptable or dd aren't even avaliable outside /bin for some reason. And a couple of other commands. It just doesn't werk.

What should be the next Distro? Mint and Ubuntu are shit. I don't know about Red hat or Fedora. Arch and Gentoo are meme's. CentOS, BSD ?

>>62304709
install gentoo

>>62304709
give the BSD family a genuine try. start with FreeBSD, and if you don't like it perhaps try DragonyFly or OpenBSD.

>>62302028
>>62301181
Bump.

I'm finally making the switch. Well, dual booting.

I'm going to put Arch on my i7 XPS 13 (already put the Intel WIFI card in). And on my desktop. Today. Been saying I will for months.

Anything I should know before I do?

If I want to upgrade my PC to SSD, it is enough to just copy all the partitions one by one? Will this work? Because on WIndows it doesn't i think

>>62304746
Whats the main difference with BSD, friendly man?

>>62304709
>iptable or dd aren't even avaliable outside /bin for some reason
the fuck does this even mean???

>>62304768
You can but you cant be booted in to that windows install because you dont have access to running windows files

>>62304771
BSD comes as a full system - the entire OS is developed by the team, whereas Linux is done with the kernel and userland seperate. The BSDs include a ports system, similar to Gentoo's portage - you can build programs from source and edit their configurations and build flags etc. and also use the binary package manager alongside if you want.
The manual pages for the BSDs are often very good and clear, and have helpful people on the IRCs if you feel lost. If you want to try a BSD, use FreeBSD first. then if you like it, you might want to take a look into OpenBSD or DragonFly - which i use personally and really like, it has nice features such as the HAMMER filesystem and can run virtual kernels in userspace.

Arch is just a stepping stone

>>62304893
BSD is barebones packages supported by the main devs.After that its a wasteland where you get your packages, also the "security" that it offers is limited to the default repo and nothing else

BSD is shit

>>62304835
I think I fucked up my sentence.

I switched to linux on my hdd to test it, it got really comfy I configured some shit and don't want to set it up all again.

How can I put it on my SSD in the state it is now? Windows can go to hell

>>62305082
You can use dd to copy everything over

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Hey guys I've attempted to install ubuntu ( I'm a little ashamed that I have problems with this and in past I've installed Arch and done much more useful work learning to configure stuff around, but that been 1 - 2 years ago )
the problem is .. first check what I've done:
I took the 128 gb ssd that I have and partitioned it as follows in this exact order:
1. /boot 1 gb
2. efi partition 250 mb
3. / everything else
but in the end it showed 1 mb free then suddenly something like 300 kb free, anyway ignoring that.

I've restarted after install and pressed f12 to see the boot menu, there was something ubuntu related present 2x times, alongside normal ssd showing so this is a clear indicator of me fucking up big time.

I'm going to re-install again, how do you recommend to partition this time?

I'm eager to start programming the stuff I want to already - I've wiped my windows install and I'm not looking to go back, I want to get very very comfortable with terminal, learning bash - minor tweaks behind everything working well and staying stable so I'm going to stick with ubuntu for at least 2 weeks maybe more... so guys I would appreciate your help.

>>62305105
thanks I'll check out the manual

>>62305110
maybe try with grub?

>>62305151
You mean install in legacy bios?
But then is it important if I put grub ahead of /boot or doesn't matter at all?
I kinda wanted to install it in EFI mode tho.

>>62305110
give fdisk -l ? The other partitions shouldn't have the bootable flag on

>>62305168
grub-efi exists too

Just installed i3. Is there a faster way to theme this shit rather than using the config file? Seems fucking strenuous to tweak even with shortcuts and I'm not all that down with it it since i usually just install arc darker and call it a day (which i have done but don't wanna spend pointless effort punching in hex codes)

I want to have an alias that works like
>w | field 2
I found awk can do this
>awk '{print $2}'
how can I alias this to "field" which takes an argument like "2"?

>>62305463
It would be very easy to make such a tool, especially since you can refresh it from the command line, but what's the motivation? Remember i3 is a WM not a DE with a suite of tools.

How much configuration is there really anyway? Like 2, maybe 3 colors?
If you want to make it easier just take a screenshot of your desktop, open it up in gimp, and use the paint bucket to change the colors on things until you find one you like then put it in your config file

NEW THREAD
>>62305510
>>62305510
>>62305510

>>62305464
It sounds like you want to use a function rather than an alias.