/hpg/ Headphone General

Any opinions on the Fostex TR series?

Daily reminder that all you need for perfect audio experience is $3 IEMs and EqualizerAPO + PeaceGUI.
Anything more is for retarded audiophools who love falling for snake's oil scams.

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Alright, here's the deal: it's almost the end of 2017 and I've been using strictly only wireless Bluetooth headphones for the couple last years, simply out of principle and to gather all the needed first-hand experience on this entire "wired VS wireless" debacle. So, after using strictly only wireless headphones on a daily basis for almost two-and-a-half years, I can definitely without any doubt openly state that the "always wired only" and "only highly expensive portable players/no smartphone pleb-tier" pseudo-audiophilic FAGGOTS are completely and absolutely FULL OF SHIT. I won't argue with anyone here that wireless headphones in general and wireless sound technologies in overall were utter garbage just 5-or-so years ago, but nowadays it's NOWHERE even remotely close to being as bad as it was in 2012 and further down the line. Everything (literally EVERY THING) these so-called self-proclaimed pseudo-audiophilic kiddie shithead trolls are openly and absolutely brainlessly proclaiming loudly everywhere about MODERN wireless sound technologies being any "bad" or "not on par with wired" is 100% COMPLETE BULLSHIT. Abso-effing-lute LIE. These retarded deaf kiddies clearly never used any modern wireless headphones that cost more than 50$ (and actually good/worthwhile wireless headphones start from the 120$ mark AT THE VERY LEAST) and/or they never tried Apt-X LL or ESPECIALLY the GODLIKE LDAC. These FAGS basically don't know jack about any of this, but they act like they're the hottest and most knowledgeable shits around the block while in reality they're not hot, but just shit. MODERN wireless sound IS actually VERY good and does NOT lose to wired at all by the sheer quality of sound and latency (if it's apt-X LL or LDAC), WHILE being WAAAY more convenient and comfortable to use due to headphones being completely (WELL, DUH!) wireless. Fuck all those pseudo-audiophilic pseudo-elitistic sudo-entitled "pro-wired" scrubshits, I say. They know fucking NOTHING.

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>What ~50$ range wireless headphones would /g/ recommend?
Unfortunately, there are almost no actually decent/good models in that price range. The closest one you can get to be of a "somewhat decent sound quality" is Rombica's "MySound BH-10 2C" model, but they have extremely crappy Bluetooth range and they usually tend to bug out and turn off even if slightest electromagnetic interference is nearby (like, for example, when you're in a convenience store and standing near a commercial fridge). Also note that they are literally "Chinkshit Wireless"-tier of headphones. If you never ever had a pair of wireless Bluetooth headphones before and you wish to get ACTUALLY worthwhile device from the first attempt - you'd have to spend AT LEAST 120$ and these will be MEElectronics' "Air-Fi Matrix 3" model and NO OTHER. This is the EXACT very point where actual wireless GOOD quality starts.

>Have they also opened it up for non-Sony headphones or do I need a Sony wireless?
That we don't know yet, as there are simply no massive amount of Android 8-based smartphones on the market so far, but I personally highly doubt that this will be Sony-only when it becomes mainstream, simply due to default LDAC implementation in all Android 8 devices making no logical sense in the case if Sony decides to not license this to other wireless headphone manufacturers. They've already licensed this to Android 8, so why the hell will they restrict it only to their wireless headphones now? That will be an asshole move and will undoubtedly garner a lot of critique on Sony's ass. I don't think that Sony's THAT stupid as to not provide other wireless headphone manufacturers with a LDAC license. And even if (and that's a very big IF) they actually in all seriousness restrict LDAC usage only to their wireless devices, this still at least leaves us an option to not use a Sony smartphone for it if we wouldn't want to, so there's at least that.

>>62288282
great entry level planar. The t50rp is the most balanced out of the 3 models.

However, best performance is only achieved by modding

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>Name one worthwhile wireless headphone that isn't shit-tier or overpriced for what it sounds
Plantronics BackBeat Pro 2 SE (monitor, closed, neutral, 200~250$)
MEElectronics AirFi Matrix 3 (monitor, half-open, neutral-to-bright, price-wise this very start of the actual good quality in wireless headphones so this is as low as you should go if you're planning on using LDAC/Apt-X LL, 120~140$)
Marshall Monitor Bluetooth (monitor, closed, V-shape, 150~180$)
Master & Dynamic MW60 (monitor, closed, V-shape, high price yet not ineptly overpriced, 420~600$)
Bang & Olufsen H9 (monitor, closed, neutral, mid-to-high price, 250~300$)
Sony MDR-1000X (monitor, closed, warm-to-neutral, mid-to-high price, great ANC, 280~350$)
Onkyo W800BT (IEM, closed, neutral, 100% wireless, 150~200$)
JVC HA-S90BN (monitor, closed, V-shape, 120~150$)

All of these currently available headphones are absolutely worthwhile wireless solutions. The most expensive one in that list is Master & Dynamic MW60 and even it is not really overpriced (usually sells for 600$, but can be found for as cheap as ~420$ at some places during sale-off days).

P.S.
Answering the question that was made in the previous thread: "open" structure is not actually common in the wireless segment, at least when it comes down to monitor headphones, but if anything - you could always try MEElectronics' AirFi Matrix 3, they're partially open. Also please don't ever lump "closed" design and "bad" together all the time, because this is simply not true. All of the closed monitor headphones mentioned above are absolutely top-notch pieces of hardware and sound very good for their respective pricing segments (Master & Dynamic MW60 having the best materials and sounding phenomenally even in artificially created bad conditions, but it's sound curve, which is very clearly V-shaped, is definitely not necessarily for everyone. I personally prefer absolutely neutral sound).

I need a pair of cans that sound good, are wireless and portable, and have good noise cancellation. What can /hpg/ recommend to me?

>>62288409
>>62288383
>>62288365
stop spamming and shitposting

>>62288441
Post your budget and what curve you prefer.

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>>62288448
>This underage wirecuck is mad

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Reminder to ignore the butthurt bluetoothfag and that $13 wireless earbuds + EQ will have the same sound quality and convenience for a fraction of the cost of any of those placebomeme shitcans.

>>62288488
>Reminder to ignore the butthurt bluetooth poorfag
Yeah, we're definitely going to ignore you now.

>>62288510
>implying I'm poor or butthurt
Nah, I'm just enjoying my tendies :^)
How's it like to starve with meme orpheuses inferior to my EQ'd $13 shitbuds?

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An unprecedented levels of shitposting motivated me to create or own /hpg/ CYOA! Chose wisely.

[spoiler]plz no bully this is my first time doing it[/spoiler]

>>62288529
Not even implying, just stating the facts.

>>62288453
Tech illiterate back. I'm on a £300 (~$400) budget. What is a curve?

>>62288488
I might actually buy those for when I go climbing
>>62288468
i'm not underage nor am I mad though

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>>62288546
LOL, what the F is this kindergartner-tier shit?

>>62288551
That you're a poor and butthurt placebofag? Dayum straight muh niagga

>>62288072
>get out of here with your sensibility, you dont belong here
Fuck off, people with real experience contribute much more than faggots like you.

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What's the closed back equivalent to hd600s?

>>62288365
>>62288383
>>62288409
tl;dr

>>62288621
Anything somewhat good + EQ

What should I decide on between the AKG K712 and Philips Fidelio X2? How hard is the K712 to drive, will my audioengine D1 do the job?

>>62288546
this made me chuckle

>>62288673
get the akg just to piss off all the sennheiser shills here and then take pictures and talk about how awesome it is

Are the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 on-ear wireless headphones worth the money?

>>62288561
>~400$
With that amount of money you can pretty much go straight to Bang & Olufsen H9 or Sony's MDR 1000X. You won't be disappointed even one slightest bit with either. MDR 1000X also has the best ANC currently available on the market (it's even better than Bose's QuietComfort 35's, which was garnered as the world's #1 for quite a while).

As for the curve - a curve is the way how sound is shaped in headphones. Warm/dark curve is when bass overhangs over everything else, heavily overlapping mediums and highs. Neutral curve is when everything is as well-balanced as possibly could be balanced and tries to be as close to the "middle" of the sound range line as possible (meaning bass doesn't go over mids and mids don't go over highs, and highs don't rip your ears apart with uncomfortably/damaging sharp noise), Bright/ANALytical curve is when highs dominate the sound range and mids with bass are much lower than high pitched sounds, V-shape is a curve in which bass and highs are dominating over mids thus recessing it (V-shape can be two forms - U and V. V is bad because recession happens too edgily and suddenly which causes discomfort and dissonance, U is much better as the recession and uplift go much smoother throughout the entirety of the sound range, but V-shaped curve in general is not preferred by most simply because it doesn't sound good with absolute majority of musical genres...it's good only for a couple very specific types of music).

>>62288546
Treble before me Blasters it is!
If i can only have one headphone for my entire life it better be an indestructible one.

>>62288546
Quality work, maybe add some BT shit in here that this retarded BT shitposter keeps spamming.

>>62288623
You'll learn to appreciate it, eventually.

>>62288771
Thanks for the explanation on the curve, anon, as well as for the recommendation.

Looking for a really overall good pair of headphones with a very wide soundstage but not completely missing out on the bass. Range $200-400, ideas?

>>62288813
Just read this >>62288383 and this >>62288409, and you'll pretty much be almost absolutely fine.

>>62288854
hifiman he-400i or monoprice m1060 both have a fairly wide soundstage and top tier bass.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>62288854
ma900 if you can find it

what is the HD600 of in ear headphones?

>>62288778
I should have added BT capacity to walmart shitphones. I also wanted to do melanin enhanced beats that would look real cool on person wearing them and would make pop and rap sound amazing but everything else shit and a pair of pink speakers shaped like penis that offer perfect life like reproduction regardless of the environment butt make everyone hear what you are playing in several kilometres and need to be 'charged' by sitting on them which will result in loud orgasms that would be also heard across several kilometres. Formating is kind of meh desu, I will update it later.

>>62288984
The shit formatting is part of what makes it great, don't change that.

>>62288778
He doesn't know jack shit on quality of the modern wireless headphones in any price ranges higher than ~50$, so he clearly can't.

>>62288854
K712
>>62288929
Beats
>>62288957
ER4SR
>B-But ear dildos

>>62288984
>BT capacity to walmart shitphones
Then you'd be an absolutely uneducated and utterly inexperienced retard, kiddo. An utter imbecile, even.

>>62288546
FUGG, forgot to add something like this to Mememids.
>Ethereal mids, you waifu was never so close to you. Life like vocal reproduction through an excellent smooth midrange as well as any frequencies there.

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>>62289017
>being this mad about his shitty overpriced placebo memes

Just lol. Should've known you could've just bought one of these and gotten better than focal utopia sound quality.

>>62288995
>>62289017
Why the fuck you are so assblasted bratishka? This is supposed to be a joking take on all shitposting and headphone wars that occur here, plebposter got a chuckle and you are being buttblasted.

>>62289105
>This is supposed to be a joking take on all shitposting
and there it is folks, we're done here

>>62289105
It's because he created a persona to shitpost and then went too far and now unironically believes the same thing his shitposting persona does. Sad story.

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>>62288996
>K712
He said really good overall, not "sounds like gang violence and watermelon."

>>62289078
You're not trying hard enough.

>>62289105
What's there to be buttblasted about? I'm just stating the very obvious facts. You don't know jack shit on wireless, so you can't write anything good on that topic, naturally.

>>62289145
I don't have to try for you to be eternally enraged :^)

>>62288621
MDR-7506,M-40x

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>>62289154

>>62288365
>>62288383
>>62288409
Reminder that this lying shitposter claimed to own Orpheus and SR-009 but has not provided pic+timestamp.

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>>62289178
It's okay to admit it anon. Not all of us can be intelligent enough to buy these and get orpheus+ levels of sound quality.

>>62289183
I already told you in the previous one, kiddo.
Just because I'm not playing your kindergartner-tier "show me your titties or else" games, doesn't mean that I don't have the actual thing. But stay mad about it, I guess.

>>62289145
You come onto a funpost with rage and accusations when it's just a joke on shitposts, looks PERDAQUE IS STRUCK to me but I will live you where you are so I can make stuff off you :3.

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>>62289231

>>62289224
What "rage", lol? That's just how I tend to converse with anon on an everyday basis everywhere (not even just on 4chin). Because roughly 99.82% of all anons out there understand only such kind of a treatment.

>>62289133
K612/K702/Q701 + Comfort strap or replacement headband.
>>62288854

>>62289215
I own an HE-1, HE-60, HE-90, SR-007 and SR-009. Wireless headphones are shit.

>>62289569
I own all of those headphones and I have degrees in sound engineering and electrical engineering. Wired headphones sound much better than wireless headphones and HD600 sound better than all of those headphones.

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>>62289263
>im not butthurt I'm just pretending

Hi guys. BTC is trading at $4600.

Which of these headphones is the best?

https://beta.webhallen.com/se/category/2514-On-Ear-Over-Ear?f=stock%5E0&page=1&sort=priceDesc

It has to be one of those on that site, it's the only one that sells headphones and accepts BTC as payment.

My current headphones are Bluedio R and Koss Porta Pro. I like them both. I haven't really bought many luxury things for the lols or changed my lifestyle much since I bought in at a $60 average years and years ago so I figure I should get some headphones.

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How do i stop?? Just got the TH-X00 but I wasn't even wow'd by it like i was when I first got the K702. How do I convince myself it's not going to get any better if I spend more at this point?

i never would have thought I would spend $1000 on headphones because I wanted to scratch an itch while waiting for the HD6XX. I was perfectly content for a couple years before this.

>>62290077
>Bluedio R and Koss Porta Pro
>both on-ears
You're going to feel a world of difference if you move to any of the full-sized headphones.

I love my SRH1540s (>>62290120). Next best thing is probably the AKG K7 series because of how big the earpads are (K7XX and K712 have memory foam) but the build quality is a disappointment compared to the SRH1540. Heck I'm a bit disappointed in the TH-X00 after coming from the SRH1540 (and the MDR7506).

>>62288929
Something cheaper + EQ.

>>62290120
I love how that Shure looks, seems pretty sturdy too, how hard it is to get new pads in case you need? How is the comfort?

>>62290120
I don't know if you have any hifi shops around you with a headphone section, but after spending a few hours listening to just about every headphone outside of the Orpheus, lcd-1 and abyss at one of our dealers I'm fairly content with my $250 he-400i and I may consider stax in the future if the itch still needs scratching. I would definitely just spend lots of time listening to these models before making any decisions to purchase, you may convince yourself to stop spending.

Besides the fact that my speakers fuck everything on that headphone wall anyway.

>>62290329
Is the JBL LRS305 still the go-to entry level near field monitor?
I like my DT880 and have tested a bunch of others which sound nice but sound more like side-grades to me, thinking of saving a bit for actual speakers.

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most comfortable over ear headphones with extra nigger bass?

>>62290311
Very easy and actually reasonably priced ($40).
https://www.amazon.com/Shure-HPAEC1540-Replacement-Alcantara-Headphones/dp/B00HXAV0UY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504738949&sr=8-1&keywords=srh1540+earpad

Comfort is amazing. I can wear it for very long periods without it getting too warm. If I had to complain, it's not deep enough so my ears touch the middle foam (it's thick though so no worries about dirt getting to the driver). Heck I might even try out the earpads on my 7506 beater headphones later on instead of the genuine sheepskin auray ones that are usually recommended.

Though if I had memory foam earpads for my K702, that would probably be superior since the earpads are much bigger. I would not actually recommend any AKG headphones though because OEM earpads are retardedly priced (and are per earpad, not per pair so watch out), never mind the build quality.

I would definitely say the the SRH1540 are the equivalent of the 7506 in terms of build quality in its price range.

>>62290416
For the price absolutely. Hard to beat in general. Depending on your music taste you may want to incorporate a subwoofer though.

The next step up would be Adam audio a5x or emotiva airmotiv 5s

>>62290416
Keep in mind that with monitors, and speakers in general, placement matters the most.
This is actually the biggest issue with speakers in general, if your room is not suitable for audio then they won't sound good. Especially if your desk is against wall then have fun with overblown bass.

>>62288391
What mods do you suggest?

>>62290737
ZMF Classic

For movies and casual gaming should i buy the fidelio x2 or the monolith m1060?

>>62290773
Distortion or Ringing? Which would you like?

>>62290773
>distortion
i heard someone say that THD with bass is good because it makes it "warmer". what does that mean

>>62290773
I read that the ringing on the m1060 could be fixed with the fuzzor mod

>>62290877
Fuck, i wanted to reply to >>62290811

Anyone got good EQ suggestions for Hd800 maybe something to ease the harsher highs.

>>62290928
Try Metal571's HD800 EQ settings. They're in his HD800 review. Or you could SDR mod them.

>>62290928
pic + timestamp

>Budget
Up to $50
>Location
Taco
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Headset pls
>Comfort level
Just wanna use them for like 2 hours a day at most.
>Past headphones
Shitty $5 headset.
Headset if possible, I don't wanna have to deal with a mic.

I got a pair of MDR V7506s and I want to know of a good cheap USB amp/dac that'll give it more oomph while retaining the clarity compared to the Realtek integrated from my mobo.

>>62290120
>SRH1540 anon has fallen even more into the hole
Try LCD-2s, maybe. They're excellent.

>>62291400
no

>>62291400
they're easy to drive you would be better off saving/spending on a headphone that is an upgrade

>>62291079
Thanks

>>62291109
For what? I'm not a girl anon

>>62290748
>>62290737
I second this statement. Mayflower electronics sells a mod kit as well.

>>62290514
Cool, i listen mostly to rock, but also movies and gaming.
>>62290602
Yeah, right now my room isn't ideal, but i should be moving to a bigger place next year so it shouldn't be hard to have more room behind my desk and maybe adding some treatment to the room.

>>62291582
Just ignore it, constant shitposting like "i bought headphone x and it sucks" and others leaves people on edge, so when someone clain to have a good headphone for whatever reason a "prove it you actually have it" response is pretty common.

>>62291586
The lsr305 should do fine with that. If you need more bass, the emotiva basx8 subwoofer is excellent for the price.

>>62291583
>>62290737
>>62291583
friendly reminder: every rp fostex mod ever tries to fix the thing they are terrible at: bass rolloff and subbass performance. the reality is that the drivers are far too small for planar to ever have good bass output. they simply don't have low enough distortion levels

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>>62288259
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>62291712
yeah you're right. They have a roll-off problem like the hd600, only they're much flatter everywhere else, especially the treble.

>>62291665
Will take a note on the subwoofer, might came in handy in the future, thanks for the tip.

>>62291510
I like the sound profile of the 7506.

What would be a good upgrade for a set like them with a neutral/monitor type?

>>62291665
How well do near field monitors do if you're using them as normal hifi speakers in terms of placement (i.e. across the room)

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>>62291916
You mean like the HE400i

>>62291916
it spent forever trying to fix the t50rp's lowend and then gave up bought an lcd-2 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>62291971
no, the hifimans you can get flat bass or bass slam even. far better than any sennheiser. t50rp and the planar fostex are dwarfed versions of the original t50 which had a large planar driver similar to hifiman and audeze

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>>62291983
why buy the lcd-2 when you can mod the m1060 for half the price

>>62292050
>why buy the lcd-2
I've had mine for years before the m1060 even existed. Also good for them for being able to provide competition in a market that desperately needs it

>headphones
>anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aMwXdbShZo

>>62292535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBS_IOz6YtI

>>62291968
you're basically getting a pair of hifi speakers. The waveguide may effect off axis performance but as long as you're sitting in the sweet spot you'll be fine as far as imaging. Buying studio monitors is like buying hifi speakers with amps in them.

Alright.

I'm looking for some cheap (~50USD, the cheaper the better.) earbuds. Most important things for me are comfort, build quality, and ability to be used with lots of motion (ie. sports shit). I care about sound quality and noise isolation quite a bit too, but it seems hard to find anything that fits even some of these qualities together, so all of them worries me.

Price in and of itself isn't the biggest deal, but I'm not trying or looking to spend too much, so the lower, the better.

>>62292787
I know you're about to say KZ ZS5's, and I'm not convinced.

>>62292795
you could buy the zs3 for 10 shekels and see if you like them first.

I just like Bluetooth for any sort of physical activity and the Bluetooth wire is super useful. There's also a tfz exclusive offer on massdrop

>>62292724
this is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOUCJay_7U

>>62288313
Pic+Timestamp

>>62292876
obligatory ghibli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR49yQ9crug

I'd like to know some good on-ear or over-the-ear headphones that:

- Are able to push sound out when volume is cranked up loud.
- Are cheap as fuck ($5 to $20 is preferred, $5 to $40 is my range).
- Have a good bass.
- Have two wires, one to each cup.

I'm looking for something cheap but hefty so that I tear down the headphones and use the speakers in a different project.

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Not headphones, but how do you all feel about the Mackie CR3 and CR4?

I hate to ask this here...does anyone have experience/ knowledge of the Astro A40?

>>62292953
shit
PreSonus Eris E4.5 are much better and almost the same price

>>62292795
i use these as my throwaway buds
https://www.amazon.com/MEE-audio-Sport-Fi-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B0038W0K2K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504752125&sr=8-2&keywords=m6+sport but if those give out I'd replace them with something a bit better like this
https://www.amazon.com/MEE-audio-Universal-Fit-Noise-Isolating-Detachable/dp/B015S2I6A0?th=1

stick with silicon ear tips for sporty stuff. Sound is obviously not going to be the highlight, but you're not going to hear much with all the cable noise from moving around in the first place. I fell for the SE215 meme and I think I'd have been much happier with the M6 Pro since I was pretty content with the M6 Sportfi. Frankly the audio quality difference doesn't seem big to me either (but that might just be the discomfort for the SE215 in general, and the elevated bass making it muddy)

keep in mind that I've already decided that IEMs are not for me and they'll always just be a compromise for on-the-go to me

>>62292912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAGJClS2PBA

>>62292977
I'm only seeing them for 3/2 and 2x the price.

>>62292953
Micca MB42X

>>62293021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbip5oZVL94

>>62293004
How does that compare to these?
https://www.amazon.com/MEE-audio-Secure-Fit-Headphones-Universal/dp/B0140VJ456
The M7P's?

I should also say, I keep reading all these reviews on the MEE buds that say they die and break really fucking fast. And my ears are sensitive as shit for whatever reason, so I almost always hate using earbuds/ IEMs because they fucking hurt. This is why I wear Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 OHMs at home on my normal machine. I got those a few years back on the suggestion of /g/ with a fair bit of research, and I've been extremely pleased ever since. They sound incredible, and they're unbelievably comfortable. They are also stable and well built. My issue is, they're fuck huge for any form of mobile usage, hence why I'm trying to find a reasonable workaround.

I haven't fully considered it yet, but I'm almost thinking about just trying to get smaller over ear headphones for mobile/ sport usage anyway, because earbuds are hard for me to find, use, and trust reasonably well.

>>62292825
Some of the above mentioned things may apply to those as well, I've seen some poor reviews about build quality, audio quality, and even comfort on those. All that said, that would be hell for me. Of course, I can't know anything until I try them, but you know, I'm trying not to have to spend money out the ass trying several things and having to return a bunch too.

>>62293041
>>62292977
>>62292953
I should mention that I'm using these on my desktop for my pc. So anything without AUX connectivity is out.

>>62293027
mackies cr4 $150
https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-CR4-Pair-Reference-Multimedia/dp/B00KVEIY4O/

PreSonus Eris E4.5 $200
https://www.amazon.com/PreSonus-Eris-E4-5-Powered-Monitors/dp/B00GP56OYA

>>62293081
Yeah, I was looking into the CR3 because it was around my price point, but I would have been willing to go with the CR4 if it was 1.5x better. $200 is a little out of my way.

>>62293080
you can use a 3.5/aux to rca cable, it doesn't affect sound
the rca ends can go into the powered speakers or an amp

>>62293118
Edifier R1280T then, it's only $100

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Time to post some music /hpg/:
https://my.mixtape.moe/sgoiim.ogg

>>62293147
dope

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>>62293147
Good taste.
Them dolls are adorable, too.

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>>62293120
>>62293134
Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Have some cringe.

>>62293075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSSXOQ-1bI

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https://my.mixtape.moe/ybcbhc.ogg

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>>62293187

>>62293075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riM1KZn9q4k

>>62293147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7dmM-QMkmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWKYpy__lfA
>>62293203
>>62293238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPcM8UkF9I

https://my.mixtape.moe/xnnncz.ogg

>>62293262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9F9ob0ZzHw

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https://my.mixtape.moe/xgdvim.ogg

>>62293307
https://soundcloud.com/lamp-japan/a-1

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Budget
$400
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Open
>Comfort level
Something I can wear all day
>Past headphones
ATH-M50, Fidelio X2

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https://my.mixtape.moe/psgkyo.ogg

>>62293363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Bu0fqB5K8

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https://my.mixtape.moe/stszyu.ogg

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https://my.mixtape.moe/mfrhvx.ogg

>>62293427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQAEhCQDKWc

>>62293462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVodO1G9KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvY8Qj9dgW8

>>62293414
TH-X00

>>62293414
Pretty much a template for an HD600 answer.

>>62293414
m1060

Why should I not get the HD600?

>>62293892
bass rolloff, lack of bass impact, lack of soundstage

>>62293414
HD600, obviously.

>>62293892
Philips SHP9500 are just as good and much cheaper

>>62292876
Can't take funny drunk man's music serious anymore since it's always the same shit. Just makes me cringe from the forced nakige.

>>62293964
>bass rolloff
then get a bassy open pair to complement them
> lack of soundstage
not entirely a bad thing
>lack of bass impact
might as well get closed headphones

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>mfw someone says HD600 is the best headphone

>>62294427
>someone
Almost everyone

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>the HD600 were first introduced in 1994 as the HD580
>it is 23 years later
>they are still the best full-sized headphones in the world
Why?

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>>62294465
You ever heard a headphone not designed for peasants?

Cowin E7

Did I fuck up?

I was thinking Audio Technica, but I don't think I'm ready to drop 150 bucks on headphones I'll be carrying with me a lot so they have some risk of damage/stolen. These seemed like a decent cheaper alternative. Probably using the wired option, not a huge fan of bluetooth.

Keep in mind I'm coming from a life of 20 dollar sony earbugs, headphones, and like one pair of cheap skullcandy headphones so I've never really had anything nice and wanted to move a step up to see if I like it.

>>62294547
Those are retarded old people who don't know how the Internet works tier garbage.

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posting again because I am testy af about my financial decisions. What kind of IEM's would give me the best experience? Two people yesterday told me Etymotic MK5, or Yinyoo ZS5.

All the reviews on the mk5's say they have poor low end, and the ZS5s have 2 drivers that are on the back end of the earphone, which makes me wonder if they'd even be worth it, albeit cheaper. One reviewer on youtube said they sound better than the 1more quads, and I was looking at the 1more triples before I was recommended these 2 IEMs. I have used JVC marshmallows for years, and owned 1 pair of monoprice hifi's which sounded great, but broke after a few months (shitty cloth cable)

TL;DR can anyone recommend me some sub $100 IEMs?

>>62294577
Got an alternative?

Also old people use the shitty headphones that come with the iphone they can't use.

What are good IEM tip brands? The ones that came with my KZ ZS5 irritate.

>>62294623
The KZ ZS5s are good though, and it's okay if you don't like them because they're cheap.

>>62294633
I'd rather use earpods than that shit, judging by FR.

Anyways, the HD461 destroys it for about the same price.

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>>62289569
>He bought meme HiFi

>>62289619
>This one too

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>>62294642

these things felt like haven in my ears

>>62294487
Because that's your opinion
>>62294642
JVC SpiralDot, Spinfits

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>>62293147
https://my.mixtape.moe/dlypcg.flac

>>62294657
>HD461
How good is the noise canceling? I work in a noisy as fuck place and these things are almost more about getting peace then sound. Are they more comfortable than they look?

>>62290462
If you want ricer ghetto nigger/wigger schoolboy-stylized with XXTRA NIGGERBASS, then it's JBL Everest 700/750. If you want "just A LOT OF BASS" while not looking like kiddie lamershit with a down syndrome in the eyes of others - go Sony's XB950N1.

>>62294642
this is what I was thinking. After hearing they sound better than the 1more quads I was just about sold, and so far no one's referring anything else.

>>62291617
This is why I'm laughing my ass of at such retards as this >>62289183 kid.

>>62294664
>>62294670
Thanks, will go check them out after work.

>>62294623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGV_kTCTyX8&t=307s

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https://my.mixtape.moe/xpctck.ogg

>>62294707
It's sennheiser so it's gonna be comfortable. As for blocking noise, it'll be good but not amazing. The cowin is pretty shit in terms of ANC as well, so the difference might not be that big.

>>62294720
neither of those can do bass

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>>62294769
>Being this retarded
Kiddie, JBL's Everest is LITERAL NIGGERBASS, it's the very EPITOME of "NIGGERBASS". XB950N1 is so melamine-enriched AND comfy (DAT memory foam) to wear at the same time that most thump-lovers even go showering and to sleep with it.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/fowisz.ogg

What are the comfiest over-ears below $200 that aren't hd 380?

>>62294783
bluetooth headphones can't do a paper test. they can't do it because they are bluetooth. they will fail a paper test.

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>>62294794
Closed or Open?
https://my.mixtape.moe/eekwbr.ogg

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>>62294826
Oh, I see, you're just a buttmad wirecuck.

>>62294829
Closed but no bully.

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>>62294768
I'm replacing this shit. So yea I have no idea what I'm doing. Best ones I've ever owned where a pair of logitech ones I used for nearly a decade until they disintegrated, plus they were USB which doesn't help with an mp3 player. Sadly the newer version on them is also stiff and unpleasant.

>>62294720
>bass
http://eu.jvc.com/microsite/eu/szfxz/sz/index.html
>check out the dual stream woofer
>50mm driver

reviews say it needs a little EQing to turn down the front driver, but the rear driver pumps out crazy bass with the tube system they have in there

>>62294826
Stop saying "bluetooth" instead of the only proper definition that is "wireless", you morons. Not all wireless headphones are automatically bluetooth devices. Modern ones maybe are by majority, but there are also other ways that are used by some, like radio frequency (wireless HDIS850, for example), or even IR. Hell, there even Wi-Fi headphones already existing out there.

>>62294835
you don't even know what a paper test is, do you?

XB910:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ImFPgvQ2Nw
SZ2K:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR6A1-ytJnE
TH900:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbgOzsXz_-A

Your "EPITOME OF NIGGERBASS" is weak af, and you don't know jack shit

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>>62294850
Search for the ATH-MSR7.
https://my.mixtape.moe/xawpln.mp3

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>>62294864
>he's one of those uneducated inexperienced immature cretins who sincerely and absolutely unironically believe that "bigger driver = better sound"
KYS already, you are the cancer of this solar system.

>>62294877
>He's actually this retarded
My deepest condolences to your family/relatives (though I highly doubt you have any at all)

>>62294872
You know bluetooth is radio frequency right and IR is some 1980s level tech. Anyway I'm off to wipe off a Xerox with a Kleenex while I drink Clorox.

>>62294886
>ath
eh...

>>62294794
HD 569, HD 598 Cs

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https://my.mixtape.moe/fwfdpf.ogg

>>62293892
Because wageslave poorfag.
If you're in such a situation, don't blow your savings on HD600.

>>62294894
i'm sorry ;w; i wasn't talking about better sound, just pumping out more bass freqs.

>>62294903
>bluetooth is radio frequency
That wasn't the point, you dumb uneducated fuck. There are wireless headphones that were made before bluetooth era/when bluetooth was just appearing and they used straight-out typical radio transmission signalling to pair, not bluetooth. And yes, there were IR headphones in the past.

>>62294914
>hd 598cs
eh...

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>>62294925
>What is overall sound range curve

>>62294926
You really didn't get the joke.

>>62294930
They sound the same.

>>62294940
what IS overall sound range curve?

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>>62294793 >>62294829 >>62294886 >>62294916 >>62294935
Excellent taste, Anon.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/sgjyns.ogg

>>62294958
>>Dude asked for a sound curve where bass overhangs over everything else, he got them
>Some uneducated inexperienced imbecile started shitposting about "MUH BIGGU DORAIBASSU and PEIPA TESUTO" even though that this wasn't what the talk was about to begin with

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>>62294935

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>>62294948

>>62294977
i-i-im sorry sen-pai I MEAN SENSAI

>>62294977
>>62294894
bigger driver typically means "better sound" when you're talking about a subwoofer

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>>62295017
It doesn't. But keep on believing in that marketing BS, kiddie.

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>>62294986
How about some Madoka then:
https://my.mixtape.moe/wnmzgk.ogg

>>62294926
>>62294988
>not understanding you can't force language
>brand recognition will get used as the vernacular
>sperg about it
That's some SJW language controlling stupid right there.

>>62295045
That's all you're capable of? 0/10, kid. You need to try way harder than just that.

>>62295029
I get that a bigger driver doesnt mean it will sound better than a smaller driver, but if the larger driver is used right, doesn't that mean it can put out louder sound? I need some explanation man, so far I'm thinking that the larger driver won't be used correctly to make the louder bass. Halp.

>>62295083
you're arguing with a troll who doesn't know the first thing about audio

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>>62295103

>>62295083
>if the larger driver is used right, doesn't that mean it can put out louder sound
>what are distortions
>he thinks "louder = better", when it should be "better sound = better" (and "loud-just-enough WITH better sound = better sound", not "just loud". Even ghetto wigger niggers understand this, lol. Because if they'd wouldn't had, then everyone would've just listened to "brown waves" on maximum loudness levels instead of actual NIGGERBASS).

>>62295103
Nice try, but no cigar.

>>62295112
You're really that dumb as to believe him? Hilarious.

>>62295122
so you're talking about ability to play 808 bass without flopping around? where the larger driver has more potential to have parts that flop/distort?

>>62295144
>where the larger driver has more potential to have parts that flop/distort?
Are you for real, even? This is not even funny to read anymore.

>>62295042
Excellent taste, sir.
>>62294986
>hating on idols
Confirmed psychopath.

>>62295154
HELP ME IM A PLEB

I CAN ONLY HEAR FROM 40hz-16khz

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>>62295167
I'm not hating on idols, just their musicality

>>62295182
Are you saying they're tone-deaf?
Love Live definitely aren't... im@s though... does have some questionable voices.

>>62295173
>40hz-16khz
Get better headphones, bro.
HD600 is suggested.
Also, stop using mp3. Go lossless.

>>62295080
You are a walking cliche and too damn stupid to get a telegraphed joke about branding while going ape shit about the word bluetooth. Yes things exist that aren't bluetooth. They are also largely shit and unused for that reason.

neutral > warm/dark > shit > bass-heavy = bright = V-shaped

>>62295207
already do. I took a hearing test and it dropped off at those freqs. HD600's are way out of league for my poorfag ass

>>62295237
>it dropped off at those freqs.
Did you take your test *online*?
Shitty speakers and most headphones are simply silent under 40Hz.
>can't afford HD600
Then work, save money. You shouldn't be spending what little you have in headphones.

>>62295182
Some idol stuff is tragically badly mastered too. The variance in quality between all the solo versions of the LL songs is just completely awful. In half of the songs it sounds like they're using cheap Walmart mics.

>>62295173
This is how it should be ALL the time - http://s.4pda.to/ldWhT1z2z06GG5rXhlKk9XDXgX4xLW.gif

This is what happens when driver gets bigger and bigger - http://s.4pda.to/ldWhU6pZrkJZgHpJIXHThUgX4xrm.gif

Worst case scenarios - http://s.4pda.to/ldWhS2voUiswrXBVCoV6ndbvuTgW.gif / http://s.4pda.to/ldWhJT9AIILCY5nsBUHTBE2bEAEQ.gif

The point is: the bigger driver gets, the harder it becomes to maintain #1, and #2 through #4 happen much often. Because what ACTUALLY affects QUALITY of sound is how sturdy/hard membrane is, and when you increase size of the driver then membrane naturally stretches out and becomes less sturdy/less hardened. To kind of circumvent this, manufacturers use harder/heavier materials for membranes, but this on the other hand increases resistance and overall weight of each driver. Bigger driver =/= better sound, harder/sturdier driver = better sound.

>>62295209
KYS already, you imbecile.

>>62295254
nice try, ADULT, but I already started shitting myself at work and now I'm waiting on SSI income for having a broken spine

>>62295264
thank you for the education

>>62295284
>shitting myself at work and now I'm waiting on SSI income for having a broken spine

Oh fuck, so now you're gonna just leech on the taxes I pay.

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>>62295209
>things exist that aren't bluetooth. They are also largely shit

>>62295042
2/2, going to sleep now:
https://my.mixtape.moe/lzeuxn.ogg

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>>62295298
Good night, Anon with excellent taste.

>>62295294
that's why we pay them guy, forced donation system to help out others. idk about you, but I felt good when I saw my taxes were going to help out old people and sick kids/young adults.

I mean, after I got over the angst I felt when I saw how much of it went to obamas pizza parties

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>>62295284
>thank you for the education
Ya'll come back and eventually learn to appreciate such things as these >>62288365 + >>62288383 + >>62288409, simply because I DO know my stuff on all of this. And yes, buttmad fuckards, I actually have Orpheus with SR-009. Keep ripping your asses apart about me not giving you any pics with titties, lol.

https://my.mixtape.moe/eafaed.mp3

>>62295338
i liked the piano but you can hear the fear in the kids voices that they'll get in trouble if the mess up. Shit like that ruins a lot of music for me.

>>62295321
I own HigherFi Audio Dark Star Opulence speakers. Wireless audio is shit.

>>62295311
>idk about you, but I felt good when I saw my taxes were going to help out old people and sick kids/young adults.

Me too, Anon. Don't get me wrong, I was just joking.

>>62295358
You really need to rethink your methodology of trolling, kiddo. This is quite lame.

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>>62295400
>trolling by making outlandish, proof-less claims is quite lame
I know.

>>62295416
Then stop, then.

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>>62295297
How Sennheiser fags will be able to ever recover from this?

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Can closed backs be neutral?

Bought two pairs of Samson SR 850s for £40 the other day.

I think they are pretty good honestly. Especially for £20 a pop.

>>62296093
See here >>62288409.

>>62296093
dumb frogposter

>>62296289
I might buy a pair since I miss my Superlux 681's.

>>62296708
https://www.bax-shop.co.uk/studio-headphones/samson-sr850p-set-of-two-studio-headphones

This is where I got them from.

>>62290462
Why go for nega bass when you can go just for a nice bass? I suggest HE400i, they cost around 250$ have a sexselent sub bass extension and don't distort, so you can EQ them up for more DAT BASS without worries. The comfort is decent unless you have a very large pair of ears, what were your previous headphones and how did they fit? Here are measurements and a review.
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jbl-everest-elite-700-wireless-noise-canceling-over-ear-headphones-measurements
>>62294720
>BL Everest 700
Those are legit shit headphones just look at them
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/jbl-everest-elite-700-wireless-noise-canceling-over-ear-headphones-measurements.
They distort like shit in passive wired mode all the way into the midrange that ear is sensitive to while in active they still distort badly with channel imbalance and other measurements like square wave don't even remotely resembles square wave.

>>62291748
what is it keyboard ?

>>62292050
>why buy the LCD-2 when you can buy an inferior LCD-2 knockoff?

>>62297305
das keyboard 4 ultimate
mx brown switches.

>>62297234
>Why go for wigger-nigger bass when you can go just for a nice bass?
That's exactly why I've also recommended XB950N1 to him.

>Those are legit shit-tier headphones
Well he WAS asking for "XXTRA GHETTONIGGERBLASTABASS", so JBL Everest is exactly that. I never said they're good, lol. Because NIGGERBASS is never good.

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>>62297478
>I've also recommended XB950N1 to him
Jebus, I didn't try them myself but this is abominable and they don't even have noise cancelation, this is shit no matter what.
>>62290462
Speaking of knee grow bass, Philips Fidelio X2 would actually suit you real good. They go for around 200$, have a bass hump up the ass, altho they roll off in sub bass, build like tank and have a wide soundstage, things will sound like they are in 3d space.
>>62297408
Aeon is da new LCD-2 killers.

>>62297722
>I didn't try them myself
Obviously, because
>they don't even have noise cancellation
You're a retard that doesn't know jack shit

But nice try anyway, I guess. I'd say 2/10.

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>>62297722
>X2
Those just have fat midbass. On the other hand, the Fidelio L2 can actually extend in subbass.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N7S0IPR

Should I buy these?

>>62297792
Snippity-snap

>>62297722
Oh silly me, this is XB950B1 model not XB950N1 but seeing how it's based off it plus noise cancellation will probably result in pink noise in your music.
>>62297744
You just recommended 2 shit headphones that distort like ass while I recommended some clean bass with low distortion and some knee grow bass with distortion less than in your recommendations.
>>62297782
He said he can't hear pass 40Hz which is probably bullshit, did he go to doctor, but still. They also do have shit distortion figures into the midrange, high distortion in the midrange is kill.

>>62297805
I'm not an audiophile, I just want something that sounds good

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>>62297824

>>62297830
Not everyone is fat

>>62297814
>Oh silly me
At least you're admitting that

>seeing how it's based off it
Not really, they're similar visually, but sound-wise XB950N1 is a vast improvement. I'd say that sound quality-wise the older ones were 3 out of 5, while XB950N1 is 4 out of 5

>noise cancellation will probably result in pink noise
They're dead-silent, actually. No interference at all. There are pretty high-quality microphones and on that thing. The only different between XB950N1's ANC and MDR 1000X's ANC is in the overall levels of noise cutting. MDR 1000X cuts off roughly -32dB off the surroundings, while XB950N1 can cut only up to 24db or somewhere around that. So if, for example, you're in the environment where there is 70dB noise (metro/sub train in the tunnel while opened windows, usually), with MDR 1000X you'll hear 38dB and with XB950N1 you'll hear 46dB.

>You just recommended 2 shit headphones
You are an uneducated inexperienced moron, because you literally don't know jack shit on anything about what you're shitposting about. Old XB950 was bad, yes, but XB950N1 is NOT bad IF you want XXTRA BASS.

>>62297792
get these instead
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/P-Howard-HD681-Superlux-Headphones-Black/dp/B002GHIPYI
same price range
100x better

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>>62297840
Sure, of course. Whatever you say, kid.

people are bumping the thread so I am asking one more time
>should I buy these
https://www.amazon.com/Yinyoo-KZ-ZS5-Replacement-microphone/dp/B0725Q26XW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504662540&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=kz%2Bzs5&th=1

>>62297980
>Literally shoving spiky cones in your ears

Reminder that the AKG K712 is the best modern headphone and that most of the bass comes from the thick earpads.

I'm happy that there is no stupid 4chan users who easily are deceived by the shitheiser meem in the current year

>>62298049
>Literally 99.82% of all pro-HD600 shitposters ITT

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>>62297912
I couldn't find XB950N1 measurements but seeing how sony's previous version was that bad and a fiasco with their TWO THOUSAND dollars MDR-Z1R I can only assume that new one would be subpar. However there are measurements of JBL 700 and they are shit and this is mind you is in an active mode, passive is painful to look at. For noise cancelation Apple in ears would do good, they cost 80$ have good FR all the way to the sub bass and just sound good except for that distortion spike in HF that makes highs sound hazy but nowhere as bad as your suggestions.

>>62298172
>I can only assume
Of course, because you're a shitposter that shitposts about shit he doesn't know jack shit about. I really didn't expect anything of any worth from the likes of you to begin with, anyway.

>there are measurements of JBL 700 and they are shit
Again - stop being a cretin and actually go read what I've said. Nowhere did I say that Everest is good. That dude asked for ricer GHETTOBLASTAWIGGERNIGGERGIGGERBASS headphones, I've told him where he'd find exactly that kind of inept shit. JBL Everest is the exact very epitome of that. But XB950N1 is actually decent for bass lovers, so I've added that as a recommendation too. It all depends on if that anon wanted LITERAL NIGGERWIGGERGHETTOBASS, or JUST GOOD BASS. He DID say "niggerbass" in his question, after all.

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>>62297722
>>62297782
>>62298172
>rtings
>ever

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>>62298265
>Of course, because you're a shitposter that shitposts about shit he doesn't know jack shit about. I really didn't expect anything of any worth from the likes of you to begin with, anyway.
This is coming from who says he owns orpheus and sr-009, my conclusion are based on facts.
>Again - stop being a cretin and actually go read what I've said.
Same goes for you. Comparing prices on amazon HE400i is just 50$ more while being better. JBL 700 literally need to be turned on with the correction to unfuck themselves where they do a horrible channel mismatch in bass while completely ruining square wave response, it doesn't look like square at all.

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>>62298265
>>62298437
And here are JBL 700 passive measurements, the driver itself is deeply flawed and needs some heavy dsp correction.

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>>62298437
>HiFiman
>Better than anything
>Ever
>Also wirecucked to the max because TWO cables

>>62298437
>>62298455
For whom you're posting those shitpics? I've know this shit about that Everest shit long before you've even been born, kid. You're not opening a new land to anyone here by posting that.

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>>62298437
>attenpting to argue with the butthurt bluetoothfag
Lol don't even bother, he's too retarded to understand graphs. Just post $13 AliExpress earbuds, that triggers him like nothing else.

>mfw his placebo bluetoothshit doesn't even have an HD subwoofer

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>>62298437
>I didn't see XB960N1
>I didn't use XB960N1
>my ASSUMPTIONS about it being any bad are based on facts

>>62298525
XB950N1 of course, fucking keyboard

>>62298519
Here goes another shitposter that shit about shit he doesn't know jack shit on.

>>62298552
My EQ'd $13 Bluetooth earbuds sound better than all of your placebo garbage. Prove me wrong.

>>62298567
Eat shit, you autistic shit.

>>62298574
So mad~

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>>62298576
NO U

>>62298596
2009 wants it's memes back

>>62298601
At least I'm a true oldfag, unlike you

>>62298617
>t. Redditor

>>62298638
I've been posting on 2ch.net when you haven't even been born yet, kid. But nice try anyway.

>>62298455
>the horror
Looks more like Tyll made an error while measuring, didn't configure noise rejection properly or something.
>square wave
Irrelevant.

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>>62298650
Just lol. Still waiting on you to prove your placebo shit sounds better than my $13 BT earbuds.

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>>62298654
>I have no argument, so I'll just "just lol" in "response"
Like I'd expect anything better from your lame sissy sucky boy ass.

>>62298669
>told to prove something
>gets mad because he can't
Classic

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>>62298497
For someone who recommends bad headphones that distort.
>>62298525
>>62298540
>being THAT mad
>>62298617
>>62298650
Kids coming from sosach need to go back
>>62298652
Tyll is more than experienced and he doesn't take just one measure, also this is passive measurements.
>square wave
>Irrelevant.
Looks like someone doesn't really know much about audio. You can educate yourself here
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response

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>>62298737
Just admit it anon.

>>62298813
Who's this semen demon?

>>62298799
So you've decided to be a completely owned shitposting cretin to the very end, I see. Whatever, then. I'm hiding all your dumb inexperienced crap from now on, so you might as well bark at the wall.

>>62298867
It's you who are shitposting, I just post headphone measurements proving that your suggestions are bad.
>Whatever, then. I'm hiding all your dumb inexperienced crap from now on, so you might as well bark at the wall.
Why are you so insecure and mad to hide someone's posts? Well, whatever makes you sleep better I guess.

>>62298799
>experience
Tyll's experience hasn't stopped him from making numerous errors in measurement before, or his gear from breaking down. The characteristic measured follows too closely the response when you consider the magnitude response with a low level white noise masker. Any white noise is not going to be a characteristic of a passive headphone.
Furthermore, the feedback mechanism in ANC devices in general does not improve nonlinear and noise performance.
He also isn't as intimately knowledgeable as you seem to be suggesting.
>headphone measurement explained
A Fourier series of the square wave function, in which the harmonic terms of modified by the amplitude and phase of each component.
It's not at all like the DFT, but it is a made from a proper subset of of the frequency response. It is easier to see and untangle the amplitude and phases of each component any by looking at a conventional chart.

>>62299054
>noise
Er, broadband noise

>>62299054
In english, please.

HD6xx baby, who else is waiting, god damn, what a bargain, holy shit.

>>62299321
I bought an HD650 instead 6 months ago, but I'm still in the 6XX drop. I love it.

>>62299407
I'm glad to hear man, that's crazy, but hey, I guess you can do what you like.

>>62288546
DT990 > DT770
In both sound quality and ear-rape

>>62299054
>Tyll's experience hasn't stopped him from making numerous errors in measurement before
Whenever he makes one he explains it in the measurements section such as being small bas dips anomalies but they are rare, far in between and are explained.
> or his gear from breaking down
Got any proof that he is using a broken gear to measure headphones?
>Any white noise is not going to be a characteristic of a passive headphone.
>Furthermore, the feedback mechanism in ANC devices in general does not improve nonlinear and noise performance.
JBL 700 elite has a DSP mechanism that adjusts FR to your ears while also attempting to fix it's flawed driver.
>He also isn't as intimately knowledgeable as you seem to be suggesting.
He is actually in frequent contact with Harman research group, the one behind JBL, and several headphone manufacturers time to time so he has a good degree of an intimate knowledge.
>A Fourier series of the square wave function, in which the harmonic terms of modified by the amplitude and phase of each component.
>It's not at all like the DFT, but it is a made from a proper subset of of the frequency response. It is easier to see and untangle the amplitude and phases of each component any by looking at a conventional chart.
These are just statements in a broken runglish and they do not contradict my statement that JBL 700 square wave goes to shit when DSP tries to correct headphone, nor they invalidate the importance of square wave measurements.

>>62300206
All of this can be translated in roughly one sentence: Inner Fidelity just was unlucky and got a defective pair of JBL 700 on their hands, so they're probably not all like that one which they've tested, but that doesn't make JBL's headphones any less shit in overall.