Aight fellas, Windows 8.1 vs 10 thread.

>>62280490
Diarrhea vs a solid shit

thanks for bumping

>>62280635
name something more satisfying than a solid shit pro tip you can't

>>62280490
Windows 8 was a perfect os with classic shell i used it from pre release until about 5 months ago

>>62280490
8.1 embedded

>>62280490
ZorinOS

7 is better than both and still gets security updates.

8.1 all the way. boots in 10 seconds on an ssd, programs are immediately usable on login. 10 still isnt finished, taskbar icons flash occasionally for no reason and the updater breaks itself.

>>62280490
10 has nothing on 8.1, except more botnet. 8.1 is the right choice to use Windows.

>>62281413
>perfect
>needs extra program to unfuck gui
nah. I used 8.1+classic shell for a while but it never stopped bothering me that the gui has a bandaid which can come off with updates.

>>62282171
I've been using it since still use it on 10 so i can have the 7 styled task bar, it's never broken with updates, also lets you theme the task bar i have mine clear with a blur

Install 8.1 Pro and stop creating such shitty threads

Wait, people seriously consider the tablet OS that is 8.1?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>62280490
How does one get their hands on a free and keylogger-free .img of windows to download

>>62282227
>free
>keylogger-free
pick one and only one

>>62282227
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows8

>>62282171
why do people use classic shell? press win key, type a few letters of the program you want, press enter.

The one that works with daz loader

>>62282391
I think it's baby duck syndrome. I don't have another explanation for it.

>>62280490
win 8.1 is better
10 is fucking shit
microsoft went full retard with this one

>>62282216
It's the new hipster's choice. Not like those OUTDATED PLEBS using Windows 7 and BOTNET-LOVING SHEEP using Windows 10. I'm the cool guy using the little OS that could!

>>62282641
>the new hipster's choice
I've been using it since the developer preview for a dozen different reasons, but mainly because Windows 7 crapped itself from the workload I've been putting it through while I could use the very same programs the same way on 8 and it wouldn't even flinch.

8.1 with classic shell.

>>62282391
win 8 gui is irritating as shit.

Where did Windows 9 go?

>>62283013
8.1?

>>62283029
8.1 was just 8 service pack 1, they only slapped the .1 after the version name, because everyone was so fucking outraged about 8, they needed a way to tell people it has changed.

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>>62283013
this is how retarded third party devs are

8.1 embedded industry pro

>>62283052
Yeah but that service pack made it a hell of a lot more usable.

>>62283059
What does embedded offer?

>>62283071
No argument there, but that's not why 9 was skipped, see above.

>>62283059
I'm thinking of putting this on an X220, since I have a legit key for it.

>>62283091
Eh. In the end it doesn't matter much. For me it's still the best version available right now. 10 seems like playing with an ongoing beta, and I want something that doesn't change much at all and just works.

>>62283078
Doesn't include telemetry or crapware and has few system resources running

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Windows 10 hands down.

>>62283078
Turns your desktop into an ATM that can be remotely controlled and phones home regularly.

>>62283113
Again, I agree, I have been using it since the developer preview. It's fast, it's stable, it natively supports ISO mounting, and I don't give a crap about the start menu.

gnu/ linux (any good distro) > 8.1 > 10 > 8

>>62283115
>the reason I bought an ultrawide
KEK

>>62283149
and here comes the freetard

>>62283115
>Cluttered with garbage
>3-4 different programs for each function
>4 drive icons that don't mean anything visually because they're all the same
>"PC Gaming"
>Those random Windows 7/8 icons on that desktop

That's not yours, is it

I use Win 10 with the Start10 skin. Use WinAero to keep Bill Gates from spying on me and it's good enough.

>>62283157
Just wait for Microsoft to continue fucking up Windows, and you'll be using Linux soon enough, as soon as the last version of Windows you prefer will get hopelessly outdated, like XP.

>>62283187
No unfortunately not, I just really love desktop images that tick all the right boxes yet don't come off as tryhard. Y'know, the illusion that someone actually lives in that mess sort of comfy feel.
>>62283199
Bill bls gom bak

>>62280490
>Windows 8.1
The choice of Billy G., 2nd richest man on the Earth. There's nothing to talking about.

>>62283206
lmaono
once windows is finished, we'll all be using the advertising OS of choice - Fuchsia.
stay mad no one will ever use your crusty piece of shit

>>62283206
>the last version of Windows you prefer will get hopelessly outdated, like XP
So... Never?

>>62283115
So compared to 8.1, tiles are tighter, only blue, using 32 instead of 48pix icons, and can add categories below and not just side to side.

Eh, I guess the below/above option is good, but not sure about the rest. I still want the option to be able to choose tile colors.

Somehow it feels closer to windows phone than win8.1, maybe because everything is grouped 3 wide, or is that now a new limit?

Honestly I just gave in to Windows 10. My hardware is proprietary anyway, as are old versions of Wangblows. Either give in, risk Wannacry, or use a real OS.

>>62283244
tiles are customizable
the color is based on 2 things, whether the dev has live tiles/custom color, and which color you choose in personalization
you can also use folders

I don't use the start menu much though I just tap the win key, search and enter.

>>62283245
Windows 7 and 8 are patched against wannacry
Linux doesn't have this problem.

>>62283237
>being so buttmad about Linux
Show me on the doll where it hurt you.

>>62283055
That guy is talking out of his ass. The Win32 API calls for getting OS version only return integers. Of note here are major version, minor version, and platform (other info such as build number, service pack, and product type are also available). To check for 9x you check for major version == 4, minor version < 90 (4.90 is ME), and platformid != NT (to avoid catching NT 4.0). I'm not sure if it's even possible to get the version as a string like that, maybe it's somewhere in the registry? But it would be difficult, have no guarantees of it actually being what you expect it to be, and very expensive to do that and then do a string comparison vs just doing one syscall and a couple of integer comparisons. I've never heard of anyone in a production environment trying to do what's shown in your image.

>>62283157
yeah yeah whatever. I dual boot fedora and 8.1 and i dont think ive actually booted into windows in weeks. Its less intuitive (evn 10) and overall faster to do the stuff i need to. Plus its nice knowing that when i log into my bank account my details arent being keylogged

>>62283279
>enters a thread about windows
>guys pay attention to me please i use linux
>>>/soc/

>>62283289
Same here, except 8.1 and Antergos.

>>62283289
>logging into your bank outside of a VM
y i k e s

>>62283295
Go be a raging faggot somewhere else, kiddo. Adults are talking here.

>>62283307
You really think adulthood is attention whoring over which os you use?
Amazing.

>>62283289
>Plus its nice knowing that when i log into my bank account my details arent being keylogged
if you're using an x86 CPU from the last 10 years you have a hardware keylogger inside your CPU

>>62283272
>getting patches after 2015
That's giving in to the botnet.
>Linux
I said "or use a real OS"
You didn't think I meant Windows 10, did you?

>>62283332
No, I really think you are on a hormonal rage characteristic for teenage faggots who get upset over nothing. Your hating posts literally have no fucking substance to them, so stop writing if you don't have anything to say.

>>62283340
citation needed

>>62283365
you do realize you can just selectively download patches, right?

>>62283365
>2015
windows has had a universal backdoor since 2001 and has been cooperating with government agencies since the 90s (look up _NSAKEY)

>>62283374
Then you don't get the Wannacry patch. Every patch from 2015 onwards is spyware.

>>62283382
Then why are you worried about spyware in 10?

>>62283404
I'm not, I don't use Windows at all and haven't for a decade.

>>62283366
Is this how you're handling adulthood anon? If so might want to stop ricing and spend more time talking to a therapist.

Notice how this thread says Windows 8.1 vs 10, not "which OS is the best"

I'm just saying, you can consider both turds but at least one will be just a tiny bit less.

>>62283404
mong, please
>google "wannacry 8.1 patch"
>download the specific KB release
>install

>>62283465
Tell it to the raging faggot, who started calling people freetards.

>>62283465
On /g/ people will enter threads and start posting about completely unrelated shit to the question asked just because they're so far up their own asses.
Any good discussion has already moved on to other smaller niche forums.

>>62283365
>windows 10
>real OS
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>62283340
yeah but im completely aware of that and use a cpu witthout a backdoor. fx series ftw

>>62283530
Intel and AMD consumer series all have backdoors btw.

Windows 8 , HEAR ME OUT, its actually less bloated than 7. Sounds crazy but they removed a lot of features/services that were pretty shit on 7. If you can get passed Metro UI and run Ancile , its actually pretty solid

>>62283572
They also added a lot of useless tablet shit like another control panel

So yeah, not really less bloated, especially when you can remove a lot of the bloat in 7 but you're stuck with metro

>>62283591
>when you can remove a lot of the bloat in 7
You really can't. You can remove superficial bloat, which seems to be all you're focusing on by mentioning metro, but the actual bloat isn't removable from the end user side.

>>62283549
like i said fx series dont. read what i write instead of just responding

>>62283499
I don't agree with the freetard thing but honestly, and from an autistic perspective, the commentary about GNU/linux on this >>62283149 is irrelevant.

>>62283499
Yes, and said patch has spyware. Are you slow in the head?

>>62283518
>reading comprehension
I've said it twice now, anon.

>>62283572
It's well known that 8 uses less resources and is faster than 7, 7fags are just delusional

>>62283607
It's an AMD product.
It does.

>>62283611
Those would've been the only two mentions of linux you'd have seen, if this piece of raging trash wouldn't have started calling people freetards.

>>62283630
yeah i know youre trolling but show me any proof

>>62283621
>everything related to Windows has spyware in it, ah yea, and botnet
turbo autism
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

>>62283642
Intel is licensing x86 from AMD to begin with you /g/enius.

>>62283648
>he unironically uses a program that has been proven numerous times not to work

>>62283637
Calling people out for entering a thread about Windows 8.1 and 10 to talk about a completely unrelated topic is warranted. Defending off-topic replies indicates to me you're one of the unrelated posters.

>>62283661
>citation needed

>>62282292
By keylogger-free you mean third-party-keylogger-free, right?

8.1 unironically because of all the work you need to disable garbage in Win10

>>62283665
Okay retard, enjoy your placebo. I'll be over here using Windows 10 normally and we'll both get spied on the same.

>>62283658
how is that roof? all modern cpus have either a psp of ame on them, but fx were the last series without them

>>62283685
>disable
lmao

>>62283591
they did a major refactor of Windows after 7 and removed a lot of unnecessary shit that was bloating the OS, an updated 10 installation uses 2x less disk space than an updated 7 installation and ~100-200MB less memory. Win10 has a lot of valid flaws in its' privacy flaws and shit but "extra bloat" is entirely false.

>>62283718
>can't provide proof to support his claims
I can invent shit too. Linux is botnet. There.

Why people shill 8 - 8.1 ?

I remember clearly it sucking and after installing w10 for first time I was enlightened with the realization that 8 was just a beta for windows 10.

+ You still had data collection with 8 I clearly remember threads, posts of forums, complaints.

Anyway it doesn't matter, I'm using Linux nowadays.

>>62283928
Point is 10 has more, and feels even more like a beta.

8 was what fucked up expectations and 8.1 came to polish it enough to be usable. Nowadays there's no experimenting with 8.1 so it's pretty much a finished product, and some people want something that doesn't just break up as often.

>>62280656
The kind that barely needs any wipes, aw yiss.

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>>62284033
awww yissss ,

>>62283928
8.1 is a finished product while Windows 10 feels like a beta. It's the same with every Windows, people have noatalgia for XP SP2 and 3 but XP's launch was a shitshow.

Windows 8 is basically 10 with the shittiest UI in existence.

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>>62281602
This

>>62283670
But of course my fellow /g/entoomen. That was taken as read. If you're using Windows then you tacitly accept that you're being monitored by Big Data. We just don't want black hats selling our info to degenerates.

>>62284120
Not really. I genuinely like the 8.1 start menu, much more so, over the old windows menus, and I still think it has problems and needs features. 10 is privacy, security concern, and I don't appreciate when user control is taken away by corporate, which is exactly what happening in 10, so I don't like it. I'm also not feeling the new changes to the menu, though I've heard you can set it up like 8.1 as well, which makes sense since 10 changes were an attempt to placate prior windows users, so a middle ground should naturally be worse to me.

>>62282391
I don't get it. It's so easy to do it that I don't see why there was the need for a classic shell.

People are just retarded, even on /g/, it seems.

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>>62280490
windows 10 is best OS

maybe one day Linux can come close

>>62280490
Windows 10 is what 8 should've been

Once the next update rolls out fluent design across the system 10 will have the undisputed best UI of any Windows version.

Since it's a windows thread and I can't find an appropriate thread.
Is there a better image viewer for windows 7 than the standard one? Thanks.

>>62287314
Nomacs

>>62280490
Does anyone have a problem with Windows 10 sometimes not shutting down when you choose to shut down from the Start menu?

>>62280490

After using Windows 10 for months and configuring it the way I like (turning off all the spyware, cortana, defender etc) I kinda love it. Especially it's multiple desktops feature.

The updates are a tad annoying

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>>62283055
>microsoft dev here
sure.

I use 8.1 because comfy

>>62288237
Updates aren't much more frequent than they were before, it's mostly just Update Tuesday same as always.

>>62280490

Windows 7 with the community made "update" that will continue to allow updates and undo Microsoft / intel's block, even with newer hardware.

>>62280490
Win8 at least had designers and testers

>>62288298
It's real and he's right though
https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows+9%22%29

>>62283281
>I've never heard of anyone in a production environment trying to do what's shown in your image.
It's part of java

>>62288237
>The updates are a tad annoying
Put yourself on Current Branch for Business.
Set defer days for features to max (365 I think, or whatever you desire)
Set active hours
Use sign in to finish
and then reset time and updates become effectively invisible.

>>62288435
>>62288474
Windows 10 reports as Windows 8 (NT 6.2) to programs that aren't explicitly aware of 10's existence

Can 8.1 still be updated to 10 for free?

>>62288547
Yeah either by downloading the media creation tool and using your 8.1 key or http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/accessibility/windows10upgrade

>>62288474
My bad then, I forgot about the incompetence of Pajeet. Still seems unlikely to cause any problems though, I imagine under the hood the method for getting the OS version name is just a syscall to get the version, which is then compared against known versions and a string returned. In the case of running under 10, if it wasn't updated for 10 it would just see version 6.2 like >>62288497 says and give you "Windows 8". The problem would only occur in software that added Windows 10 support to the manifest without actually updating the program itself, and such a large issue would no doubt be noticed before releasing. Existing programs would run fine without error, they wouldn't even know they were running on Windows 9.

In reality the reason it's called 10 is probably just because it sounds better from a marketing perspective than 9, they could have called it Windows 9 without any problems. It's not like MS is any stranger to changing up their naming conventions for marketing purposes.

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>>62280490

>>62280490
Windows 10 is bed because /g/ told me it was bad

>>62283244
>>62283115
Most normal people get rid of tiles all together

>>62288020
No one has this problem?

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>>62280490
Windows 7

>>62290551
Do you have hibernation enabled?

I've always like 8.1. The start screen is fine as long as you organize it to be A E S T H E T I C and I hardly ever use it anyways because you can just call up programs via keyboard commands.

It's stable, runs muh games great, and just werks.

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>>62289381
Most people can't into basic logic either. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the same people who complain about tiles are the ones who also litter their desktop with shortcuts to games too.

>>62282391
Two words: jump lists.

Also 7 and Classic Shell search way faster on slow computers.

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>>62290839
in windows 10 you can fit each of those categories into one single folder on the start menu and then alter the tile size of that folder to your liking
pic related, don't mind the lack of pattern in each folder it's just a demo
majority just refuse to organize and improve their workflow whatsoever

It doesn't matter to me as long as it runs my games, because that's the only reason I have this system next to a GNU/Linux distro.

>>62280490
Why??

>>62290839
>not spelling out rude words with your tiles

>>62290858
Jump lists, sure, because you can't just start the damn program, then use its tray icon to access the jumplist.

You could also pin the program to the taskbar, and then use a jump list item to run the program like you would in the start menu.

There are at least 2-3 ways to do anything in Windows, why you chose to install a 3rd party program because you have an aversion to change boggles my mind, and this comes from someone whose first computer was manufactured in 1984.

>>62290959
anon don't be lewd

>>62290629
I don't think I did when I had Windows 10 installed before. I've searched the problem online, and I get the solution of turning off "fast startup," but it hasn't solved the problem.

>>62291236
There are so many solutions to force Windows to shut down. But if the only solution for you is to make the start menu item work again, it's a guesswork from there.

Have you tried the solution where you remove the scheduled disk checking from regedit? Windows could hang while activating chkdsk for the next reboot.

Follow these steps:
https://superuser.com/questions/507573/shut-down-is-not-working-in-windows-8

>>62291315
Is this only for Windows 8 and not 10? I'm currently using 8.1, but I'd have to install 10 to try this fix. I wouldn't mind using 10 if it weren't for this shut down problem I have.

>>62291520
Dude. Do you have the problem yes/no, did you try it yes/no, did it solve your problem yes/no, don't make this fucking complicated! There is the solution, try it!

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>>62290918
I dunno, I can see it being useful, but it breaks the rules of the design language, and while I realize it's a demo, tiles look ugly with small icons, imo. I actually want the opposite, big banner style icons. similar to steam or the "wide" tiles, but those, on 8.1 at least, are reserved for live tiles, or even just larger icons, say 64pix.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more it feels like going back to the old windows way of just dumping icons to the desktop, except now it's in these colored pockets on start menu. It's doesn't feel right (tm). Of course, more features aren't a bad thing though, and no one is forced to use it, but again, the more I think about it the less I like it.

>>62291575
Opening up the tiles so that non-uwp/live tiles can be wide/large would be nice I agree. We already have tileiconifier that allows you to customize the actual tile how we see fit, we just need the ability to make them different sizes.

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>>62291575
>>62291710
And I forgot to mention the likes of TileCreator/Oblytile which allows any program to have a wide size with a customizable tile image, but iirc, the problem with that is that it has to launch itself and then close before launching the program due to some limitation.

>>62280490
8.1 with classic start menu and updates disabled is basically 7
10 has it's shittiness so far deep down that it's not curable with some simple tweaks

>>62291779
If you can get used to 8.1 with a proprietary start menu replacement, you can get used to 10.

>>62291820
but i have no need to, that's the point, there's no incentive for upgrade other than botnet not to mention i'd have to get used to even more metro style bullshit in win 10, and sure while some "modern" apps actually being usable is good but the only metro app i ever used is instagram and i can live without it

>>62291852
Just pointing out the difference isn't at all as vast as you might think 10 is largely just their way of combining the platforms under one house and not much else.

>>62291899
i have a Win10 desktop that i have no use for but it took me a while to get used to the settings menu and that's already too much. My Win8.1 is my comfort zone, everything works and works fast, the laptop boots in like 3 seconds and has no issues and i know everything i need to about the OS. I do have a boner for voice assistants though, but sadly i have a third world windows version so upgrading to 10 wouldn't gib me cortana anyway.

>>62291921
Nice, use what works best for you is all you can really do tb h
If you really want to play around with a voice assistant, you can try https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-get-google-assistant-on-your-windows-mac-or-linux-machine/
Haven't personally tested it out though. Perhaps there's one for cortana, alexa, and/or siri out there.

>>62291976
oh shit thanks, i was going to buy a dedicated thing for it but if i can just get it on PC i can save dem moneys and still get my novelty tech/toy fantasy fulfilled for the time being.
g'day m8

>>62291921
I got used to the new settings menu pretty quickly and I actually much prefer it to the old control panel now. It feels far more responsive than everything being some shitty hyperlink, the search feature actually works, and it's just laid out much better with a consistent interface and concise options (although they do some tricky shit like calling ads "suggestions" or "tips and tricks" to try and get you to turn it on).

>>62291779
>updates disabled
Why would you use Windows and not install updates? Yeah, the fact you have to restart for most updates is a pain in the ass, but restarting once every few weeks is a small price to pay for there to not be gaping security holes in software as critical as your operating system.

>inb4 "common sense" or "ive never gotten malware"
Common sense doesn't magically patch vulnerabilities, it only stops you downloading and running a malicious executable yourself. And just because you haven't been raped yet doesn't mean it won't happen. Do you drive without a seatbelt because it's annoying having to put it on and take it off?

You should remember the XP days where nobody ever installed updates and "new worm uses patched exploit to shit on millions of people!" was basically a weekly headline. I used to think updates were just a waste of time until I got hit, always install your updates on Windows. The 5 minutes spent restarting is worth it.

>>62292218
autists on /g/ are just obsessed with uptime, they don't ever turn their computers off or restart because then le epic counter resets to 0

>>62280490
Windows 8 is a great OS for touchscreens. Probably the best there's ever been.

Windows 10 is just a huge compromise, with ads.

win 10 is literally the best OS microsoft has ever made.

Yeah privacy is garbage but all you need is to pirate enterprise version, disable all the privacy settings and set the telemetry to minimum.
Then with comodo block svchost out port 80 and 443 and block all incoming connections to it.
This will stop updates and telemetry.

>>62292474
Disable Cortana, disable all the online features, disable all that telemetry and shit, and what have you got you didn't already have with 8.1? A hybrid start menu/screen? What else? Nothing. It doesn't make any fucking sense to dumb a new OS down to the capabilities of its predecessor, disable all the updates, and then continue using it instead of the predecessor, that doesn't have that fuckhuge todo list to begin with.

>>62292605
>What else?
Directmeme12

>>62292739
As if there would be any game on the market that didn't have DX12 patched into it later, with shittier performance as running it in DX11 mode.

>>62292605
dx 12 and nicer aesthetics

Also you just disable updates until you feel like updating its not a never update kind of thing. Its about control.

Also disabling those things takes like 1 hour and you have to do it only once.

I have analyzed all traffic and Im positive there is nothing going out to ms that is not caught by the firewall with those rules. other system applications just allow access to LAN and localhost and multicast and thats it.

>>62292778
Fair enough. I'm not one to argue about aesthetics. Penumbra 8 on 8.1 is fine for me.

>>62292605
dx12 and WDDM 2.0, but it breaks compat with some older games. Also, task views, which is nice, but it was never a big thing, imo, even of linux. And better hidpi support, which is going to be important, eventually. I think the rest is just store, APPSSSSSSSSS, nu-ie, ui changes, linux virt, and the stuff you mentioned.

Stop using NTFS and I may try it again.
chkdsk literally cannot repair broken NTFS files.

>>62291534
Hopefully you're still around this thread, but I tried the instructions from your link, the one about the "BootExecute" entry. I was able to shut the computer down, but I don't know if that means the computer will be able to shut down every time.

>>62290839
Can someone explain why Windows 8 tiles are bad but people here defend GNOME which does the same thing with icons?

I pirated windows 8 years ago when I first built my PC and it was all working great for a while. And then I suddenly stopped getting updates and refused to update to Windows 10 even if I could. Today I went o play some RS:Siege and I got the runtime ms win dll error and every fix included updating to windows 10. Since I can't do that the legit way, I also tried pirating the windows 10 iso and it just get stuck on the "looking for updates" screen. Any idea what to do?

>>62292845
One thing I like about WDDM 2 is that you can run games in windowed mode with an unlocked framerate and no sceeen tearing, which I believe you couldn't do in Vista-8. Not sure how it works, maybe its similar to Nvidia's fast sync, still a cool idea.

>>62293316
do you have a firewall?

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>>62293325
Windows firewall is disabled and as far as I know, that's the only one.

>>62293347

try running the microsoft windows update troubleshooter.

if that doesnt help do a sfc /scannow or use DISM (you can google that for clear instructions)

>>62293392

if none of that works you might need to stop the windows update service before the troubleshooter tries to fix stuff.

>>62281647
Taskbar icons flickering is an Nvidia problem

>>62293402

also you can just nuke the windows update folder if all else fails, you will lose the history but it usually fixes these kind of problems. (disable the service before)

>>62293392
Troubleshooter found 0 problems. Let me look into it some more with what you said.

>>62293470
i meant this troubleshooter just to be sure

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4027322/windows-windows-update-troubleshooter

>>62293470
Ran sfc /scannow as admin, gave me an error saying "Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation"

>>62293180
Speaking for myself, I dislike gnome's dashboard or whatever it was called. Awkward, sluggish, unpleasant to customize, ugly, poor organization options, etc, etc. Even something as basic as the default scrolling speed is ridiculously slow. Yeah, you can change it, but it's such an obvious... one of those what were you thinking type things, that I wonder if they even test their own de. I wonder if it's even been changed by now. I don't know how anyone can praise it. That said, my impression is that most don't use it, but I'm sure there must be some that like it. I recall kde having something similar too, but it's not the default. So, I guess, I can't.

Incidentally, I've wanted a proper implementation of win8.1 start menu in linux for a long time now, but from talking to devs, I get the impression Lake Cocytus would sooner melt. I've thought about doing it myself, but I don't know if I have the time for it.

>>62293322
Are you referring to triple buffering? I believe I can do that in 8.1, at least I certainly don't recall screen tearing in widowed games with variable fps, unless 10's implementation differs somehow. I know there's variation in triple buffering implementations. I vaguely recall amd/nvidia making some noise about implementing it a short while back.

>>62293530

hm you might need to google that error.and see if that fixes it or run DISM web image. there might be something wrong with this that could or could not be related to the updates

>>62293613
Running the DISM I got a Error:582. The Windows Update Troubleshooter found 3 errors but corrected them but it hasn't helped anything. Let me research all my errors lol. This poor thing is all kinds of fucked up.

Literally why should I run either over 7?

>>62281602
It's slow as fuck compared to 8 and 10.

>>62293749
remember to disable the update service before using the troubleshooter or nuking the folder.
you can run it a few times it usually finds new shit to fix.
Although it usually ends up with me just nuking the update folder. but since scannow and dism are not working you might have more serious problems

good luck. error googling always helps.

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>>62280490
If you did not take the upgrade to windows 10 then you are a fucking idiot.

In case you have any regrets just install startisback like logan told you to five years ago

>>62281536
Tried it and was shit.

>>62293816
Jesus what God damn headache, all cause I wanna play a dumbass game. Idk what's stopping me from just loading Windows 7 and calling it a day. Anyways, thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

Without a doubt 8.1 + Classic Shell (fuck that stupid Start Screen bullshit that they were trying to jew onto us).

10 is fucking shitshow
>telemetry shit
>occasional ads
>stupid tiles in start menu scrolling different pictures
>can't control what you updates you want to install
>essentially 2 control panels (the Control Panel and PC Settings)
>the old Windows stuff looks fine but the new stuff is some Windows 3.1 tier wire frame graphics on a white background
>Cortana (it seems like after every major update this and telemetry has to be disabled in some new fashion)

I was working on a 10 machine the other day and had trouble copying a shortcut from the Start Menu to put onto the desktop. Fucking annoying.

>>62284004
What do you mean polished enough it's literally the same with 8 and 10 and same amount of bloat / tracking / problems.. I don't, I try hard but I don't understand what's up with this meme that started this yeat.

>>62293807
Just because you can do less things doesn't mean your os is faster numbnuts

>>62280490
8.1 because it doesn't have forced updates nor a trash UI

>>62280490
>"UI Abomination" vs "Privacy Nightmare" thread
It's like choosing which prison toilet to drink out of.

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just change this fucking board to /consumerism/ already
I hate you all

>>62294286
what is a third party firewall.

All your complaints can literally be blocked.

>>62293015
It's a permanent fix.

>>62295232
Well, I have both Windows 8.1 and 10 on my SSD, just in case anything goes wrong. Hopefully nothing does go wrong.