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>>62276708
Is such a thing even possible?

First for X40.

The most patrician Thinkpad.

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Hey uhhh are the Thinkpad tablets good for art shit? Thinking of maybe getting one of them ones mounted onto a keyboard for doing art related business instead of wasting thousands on a Cintiq

getacs and toughbooks aren't business laptops, they're rugged laptops
not complaining, though, this is better than HP shill's op

>>62276750
I want to buy an expensive thinkpad, in the style of a t470 but I want it to be /tpg/ approved
I want long battery life and lightning fast speeds, WITH a gpu. And i want it to be a t470 style. CAN I HAVE IT!?

>>62276875
wait for retro

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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

What are the maximum upgrades a T420 can get?

>>62276900
wats dat

>>62276914

Pretty sure if you use custom bios you can put a quadcore ivy bridge into it

>>62276914
msata ssd + hdd/ssd + hdd/ssd
alienware panel
sandy bridge quad core processor (ivy with coreboot)
16gb ddr3l ram
9 cell battery
anime bios logo

>>62276903
Do any of you use custom nubs?

>>62276750
Nice job not making a thread title

>>62276864
HP shills have been making the OP and then "coincidentally" getting FP for what, months now?

It's shit.

>>62276839
what kind of art do you do? I have an x200 and x220 tablet versions

>>62276750
Is this thread sissy-free?

>>62277158
I have made custom tips before, but it's not worth the effort.
The only customization worth the effort is dying them purple, or a darker red

>>62277242
looks like it

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>>62277190
Mostly digital art in Manga Studio and Photoshop, as well as some animating in Flash.

>>62277301
Just make sure you find one decently specc'd and you should be good so long as you don't use tons of plugins for photoshop

Guys, I want to purchase an x230 but I'm concerned about Lenovo and their superfish spyware scandal. Is/was the x230 affected by this? Does Lenovo add any other spyware bullshit in their thinkpads?

>>62277301
Have you applied for this:
>https://medibang.com/contest/jumpuniversal/?locale=en

>>62277301
So you'll probably use Windows then? I've only used it with GIMP and Krita since I'm not keen on the subscription stuff with PS.

I just got the x220 so I'm still putting it through it's paces but I will say that it has a really nice display as far as the tablet is concerned. The resolution may put you off since it's kind of low but it has decent levels of sensitivity. Plus the x220 version is touch screen. Mine is kind of broken but I have another screen on the way.

The x220 is really nice too though since it has a latch on it that will lock the screen in place. Also it can rotate in both directions, unlike the x220 version. Also it doesn't have a trackpad(which I very much love).

The x220 version comes with an i7 option which will very much help with rendering effects and filters in graphics programs but it can tend to get a little hot because of that.

>>62277401
whoops, I was talking abut the x200 a few times.
>can swivel both ways
>no touchpad
>latch to lock the screen

>>62277401
>>62277321
Thanks fellas, once this x230 comes in the mail I'll start considering getting a tablet. Probably a dense question but I just want to be sure: to the tablets feature pen pressure sensetivity?
>>62277375
I dont even like manga but I'm gonna keep this in the back of my mind, got some ideas but I dont know how much the japs would like them.

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>>62277505
Not a dense question at all. here's a sample from the x220. I need to adjust the sensitivity curves a bit. I made this in Krita using a few sample brushes.

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>>62277598
Cool cool, thanks senpai you've been a BIG help

>>62277368
They do, so get a Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook instead.

>>62277667
no problem! The tablet versions get little coverage and don't seem as popular but I love them. If you want to know more about the x200 or x220, feel free to ask.

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Is there a way to undervolt a stinkpad? Got a T510 with the i7, snooped through the BIOS and couldn't see any options for the CPU other than to disable speedstep and shit like that.

In terms of overall footprint, the X1 Carbon isn't that much bigger than the X230 right?

Sick of this fukkn screen resolution.

Thinking about buying Dell Inspirion 15
>16 GB DDR4 RAM
>256 GB SSD
>i7 - 7700U
Any recommendations?

>>62277819
DOES THIS LOOK LIKE /DELL INSPIRON GENERAL/ TO YOU, ASSHOLE?

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>>62277693
HP has shipped spyware with Pcs as well. In fact HP has spied on its own board members. Dell's just as bad with their botnet phone home crap.

>>62277862
Pretty sure it used to say that other bussiness laptops are also welcomed in OP. Chinkpad doesn't suit me performance-wise + it's fugly

>>62277819
>U
into the trash

>Have a T420
>CD drive keeps popping open randomly
>Get another CD drive for it
>Won't read CDs properly, won't even boot from CD

Why do people bother with Chinkpads again?

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>>62277885
Dell / HP shill please go. Why don't you make your own /Dell+HP/ general? Oh, that's right, because nobody gives a fuck.

Anyway those trashtops don't have hot-swap bays, multiple batteries, slice batteries, etc etc. they're shit. Also poor Linux support.

Leave these threads forever.

>>62277928
I think your problem is you still use CDs

I realize this is a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

Blu-ray player for ThinkPad? Is it possible in any way, shape or form?

>>62278114
I know there were a few that shipped with a Blu-ray config. if I remember correctly it was the W series? could be wrong though but I know I saw a few reviews from a few years ago that said they could come with Blu-ray drives

>>62278081
Not him but i still buy and rip music CDs with my ThinkPad, the ultrabay thing is pretty handy to have. Some albums aren't on private trackers and spotify has fucking nothing.

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>>62276750
wno the fuck invented the tablet thinkpads omg this is so unconfortable shit

>>62278162
>malware10
fucking retard

I found an old T420 in a computer shop for $20, is it worth it? It doesn't come with the battery, memory or hard drives though.

Got a x220 for $275CDN the other day
i5-2540m
4gb ram
320gb hdd
no bluetooth
9-cell battery in meh condition

Found a new lenovo 6-cell battery in clearance rack for $20.
pulled the hdd and installed msata
installed intel 7260ac wifi card w. bluetooth
installed 16gb 1866 ram

How did i do? 16gb ram feels like overkill...

>>62278231
yeah, add a cheap ssd, two ram sticks and it'll be pretty gud

>>62278231
Hell yeah. Buy some cheap chink battery, pop an SSD in that bad boy, get some cheap 4GB sticks, you'll have a pretty good machine for probably under 100 bucks.

>>62278180
just got it today,no time to mess with tje OS. The pen is great tho, I can see this as a great tool for a visual artist. When it comes to shitposting... the traditional laptop is way better.

>>62276809
I don't know, but it seems easier than cramming the guts of an X220 into an X201.

>>62278231
Buy it, upgrade it with the cheapest parts you can find, resell it for twice what you spent on Ebay.

IBM Thinkpads are comfiest.

>>62278244
Did you try to recondition the battery that came with it?

>>62278619
nope. didn't know that was possible..

how does one go about reconditioning?

>>62278463
No window key tho

>>62278711
nvrmind found it in the wiki

Good ThinkPad as replacement for 8440p Elitebook? Love the HP but runs hot, want something of a similar size 12 to 14 inch, decent resolution, maybe with a newer CPU that runs cooler than the HP

Thinking of getting a t440p so i can swap out the panel for a fhd display as i understand this is do able without any extra parts. How much would the fhd display cost where do i buy it and how much different will battery life be. What's the average battery life i should expect from a t440p with a 9 cell battery.

>>62278786
i paid $65 for mine

worth every cent

>>62278711
>>62278747
I have better instructions. But first a preamble.

First thing to remember about Li-Ion batteries is that they can only endure a certain number of "full" cycles before degrading below their specified capacity enormously, but what is a "cycle?" A cycle is defined as the *equivalent* of a full charge and discharge. If you charge your battery all the way and then drain it all the way, this is one cycle. If you charge it all the way, drain it to 90%, charge, and drain back to 90% you'd need to do this ten times for a "cycle." However, if you drain a battery all the way every time you might only get 500 cycles before it's degraded substantially. However, if you drain it to 50% and recharge each time, you can easily get 1500 cycles out of the exact same battery, and if you only drain it to 90% you can get over 5000 cycles.

Depth of discharge is what kills batteries. Don't drain them to empty, and if you can, set your laptop to hibernate automatically when it hits 10%, or 25%, or more, depending on how long you want your battery to last.

If the above didn't refresh your battery quite a bit, you can do the more extreme procedure of putting it into a plastic bag, evacuating the air, and freezing it for a few days. Then take it out of the freezer, whack it really hard a number of times with the palm of your hand, and let thaw to room temperature before taking it out of the bag. Try the above procedure again. Make sure to monitor your computer for a couple hours after you insert the previously whacked and frozen battery in case of fire, if you get too overzealous you could damage the pack. The goal here is to break up the dendrites which have formed and caused high resistance inside the cell(s), not to unsolder the batteries.

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>>62278717
Why do you want window anyway?

>>62279039
oops these are the non-emergency instructions:

OK, on to refreshing. First, take your battery and charge it all the way. Then drain it all the way until your computer turns off, and charge it all the way again. Take it out of the machine and leave it for a couple days or maybe a week, then charge it again without draining it first. It will have partially self-discharged a bit. Then drain to no lower than 40%, and recharge it. Do this a couple times, resting the battery for a couple days each time. It will massively boost your capacity.

>>62278747
thinkwiki > whatever shit was in OP before

>>62278786
When mine had the i5 in it, with an SSD + HDD and the 1080 screen, I could get it to >7 hours.

>>62279222
Which screen do i need to get

>>62279248
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/6taxx5/where_would_i_begin_with_upgrading_my_t440ps/dljacbt

I'm pretty sure the differences between the last three are gloss/matt finish or something, but you can probably find out more if you look them up specifically. Mine came with the screen, never looked into it too much.

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Damn, /tpg/ today was really weird. I was supposed to meet up with this qt today and have coffee but she just ended up not getting back with me. So most of my day was spent building up to nothing. On the bright side, I finally installed Lubuntu and riced it up a bit to something I really like. Honestly if I could get a faithful XP rice going on I would die of nostalgia.

Still need to figure out how to change the neofetch display.

>>62279310
>>62279248
1.1 glossy, 1.2 matte and 1.3 semi-matte?

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>>62277242
Not anymore, I just woke up.

>>62277043
>Princess Maker

>What a fag.
TAKE IT BACK.

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got a thinkpad i1400,

>celeron 466 mhz (pentium ii-based)
>tiny lcd (800x600)
>bunch of stuck white pixels (see pic)
>missing battery
>dead clock battery (expected)
>no built in nic but i have a cardbus nic

it's in great condition minus the display, only got used a handful of times. what i want to do,

>swap lcd out for 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (don't know what to look for in terms of a compatible model)
>buy a battery (all i can find is ~$60 usd with postage from us to au)
>upgrade to a pentium ii or iii on the same socket (will the chipset support a piii?)
>max out ram to 256 mb or better (thinkwiki says 256 mb but i have a feeling 512 mb would work)
>replace trackpoint nub and clock battery (cheap and easy)
>buy laptop ide to msata adapter to use my spare 950 evo (also cheap and easy)

want to do it just because it's sitting around doing nothing and it's something to do to make it useful, plus i know it's in great condition. is it even worth it? should i just go find an X40 or so on ebay instead? want to run win98se or me preferably.

Anybody else have vintage Thinkpads?

I have:
>355
>760XL
>755CX
>385CD
>600E

I want a few more, especially the early ones, but I don't want to pay a lot of money. All mine work and have age-appropriate Windows on them.

>>62279821
i1400 series isn't really a real Thinkpad, it was IBM's pilot program for a cheaper machine and was by Acer IIRC. But it's a solid brick of a machine nonetheless.

I have one and run FreeBSD on it, it works pretty well.

is a p71 with p5000 worth it for data entry and casual gaming? I need something with a numpad.

Sup /tpg/, how would I go about doing the following? I'm a tech illiterate computer noob who has gotten his first thinkpad, an x230.
Most of the specs seem nice, IPS, 8gb ram, i5-3320m, hd400, exterior and keyboard is clean, but the storage is an 250gb HDD, really slow and small.
I'm thinking about installing a Samsung 850 Evo 500gb SSD. So how would I:
>Transfer Windows 10 pro from the HDD to the SSD (yes, I know Windows 10 bother but plz bear with me)
>Clean install Windows 10 on the SSD
>Install the required drivers and other thinkpad programs
Any help is appreciated. :)

>>62280408
>Transfer Windows 10 pro from the HDD to the SSD

>Clean install Windows 10 on the SSD

???

>>62280408
Literally how do I windows, the post?

What the fuck has become of this general.

redpill me about the x1 carbon, tested it at a local shop and it was pretty impressive

I'm about to buy a second hand, good conditions Thinkpad x240 for about 214€ It's a good deal?

>>62280463
Oops, sorry, I meant Windows 10 pro for both.
>>62280474
Hehe, yeah, I've always been a Mac user, so this thinkpad is my first Windows machine.

Please help.

I'm thinking about getting an x200 for uni and anime. Will I be dissapointed? How shit will my chinese cartoons look on this guy?

>>62280561
>>62280408
honestly just google it man it's not that hard

>>62280566
Hope they are 480p my man

>>62280580
I did, but the guides are all for the x220 and earlier.

>>62280587
What about just running it from display port to TV will it be able to handle HD shit?

>>62280597
just follow one of those guides buddy you'll be fine

[spoiler] using windows 10 on a thinkpad is lame though[/spoiler]

>>62280681
I do want to get into linux and I do plan to install linux on it eventually but I have to use Windows 10 as the uni I'm going to will require it for their proprietary programs.

>>62280632
I dunno.

Just be like everyone else and get an x230 who cares about the shit keyboard an x230 is still dirt cheap and better.

>>62280736
Kek I'm an extreme poorfag that's not an option sadly

>>62277278
I want one in black, maybe I'll just color it in.

>>62280479
ultrabook disguised as a thinkpad

Okay I've got two questions. Can x200 handle 2x4gb ram or should i just go 2x 2gb? Also any distro recs? I have mint on my t420 and I'm looking to try something new.

>>62278297
That's what the actual keyboard is for.

>>62276750
My Thinkpad battery is slowly decaying. Actually two of them, 9 cell at 300 cycles, ~50% capacity and 3 cell at 100 cycles, ~66% capacity. I'm considering whether I should get the cells replaced or just buy a new battery. It appears that good quality cells would cost 5.5$ a piece, making it 50$ for nine cells, but since I can't replace them myself, it would cost me another 50$ more. New batteries appear to be very cheap though, even cheaper than the cells themselves which make me worry about the quality of the cells used. I could get a 9 cell for 40$.

What's your experience with battery replacement, /tpg/?

Anybody got pictures of that white x220?

>>62279821
>shopping cart button

is a p71 with p5000 worth it for data entry and casual gaming? I need something with a numpad.
External numpad isn't viable for me

>>62281730
How casual we talking here?

I'm looking for a business laptop that fits these requirements:
>1920x1080 screen
>Intel i5
>8GB RAM
>256GB SSD
>Good battery life (7-12h)
>Has HDMI, VGA, Headphone jack

I intend to use it for programming, compiling and office work, mainly unplugged.

What brands/models should I look at? What's a good price point that's not overkill for my purposes?

I'm an absolute novice and can't really tell the difference between i-5 series or graphics cards and I have no idea how to asses what laptops have a good price/power ratio.

>>62281913
Honestly not that casual, i like playing te big aaa releases, but I don't care about maxing settings

>>62281929
W520

>>62282122
>mainly unplugged
W520 throttles its CPU to 800MHz with no way to permanently override it when on battery.

>>62281954
Yea P50 or P70 should cut it. Don't listen to the T470 fuckers

I love my x220. It's so small and comfy to use. But there are some things I don't like about it.

The 1366x768 display resolution is too small for general usage in 2017. Most sites seem so cramped compared to 1920x1080 and higher. The screen itself is fine however, I don't mind that it isn't IPS. It is a comfy screen.

My second complaint is with the speakers. My phone is louder than the x220 and it was released only a year later. The volume range in the x220 is abysmal. I have to use headphones just to hear anything if there is any other sound being made in the room. It is like a mouse trying to scream when I play any music.

Those are my complaints about the x220. Otherwise, it is a fine machine and sexy as hell. When this machine kicks the bucket, I would like to buy a Retro, which I hope will come with FHD display resolution and decent audio volume.

>>62282163
X200s/X201s have higher resolution and 16:10 ratio. The speaker is also shit though.

>>62282142
I frankly did not know that, as I didn't put much effort into spitting out a response. If that's the case, then find one that doesn't throttle (T420 only throttles with a 65W and the battery removed IIRC) and that accepts the 9-cell slice.

So, a T420 with an i5 and 9-cell battery AND 9-cell slice.

>>62282155
p50 doesn't have numpad does it?

>>62282522
Despite only being a 15" laptop, it does.

>>62282569
oh damn. interesting.

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>>62276875
>I want long battery life
>WITH a gpu

>>62276875
>but I want it /tpg/ approved
The thing is, there isn't even a tpg approved laptop in production

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>>62282616
Yeah, the side-of-keyboard bezels are rather small to accommodate this but it does have the physical numpad.

Only reason I didn't get one is because no wacom multitouch. I got the P40 Yoga instead. Don't get a P40 Yoga, get something else that has Thunderbolt and a non-U CPU

>>62277118
>>62276914
And while you can't take it with you, you can slap an eGPU in it too.

what's the cheapest model that will accept a quad core and has an igpu? i really don't want to spend over $100

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>>62281929
T440p with a trackpad swap - the stock trackpad has no physical buttons but for $30 you can get a T450 series trackpad to replace it.

>Intel i5
Has this base spec in full powered variant. Also has i7.
The quad cores will help immensely with your compiling

>1080p screen
Yes, IPS as well which means good contrast and viewing angles. But there are models that exist without this so be aware

>8GB
Yes, easily upgradeable as well.

>256 SSD
This configuration is available but you can have up to 3 potential drives installed if you need to expand.

>Good battery life
7-10hrs

>HDMI, VGA, jack input
There is no HDMI but it has mini display port which you can get an adapter for

In general, this is about as modern as you can get without getting too expensive or having the design begin to suffer more and more.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-20AN-006VGE-Notebook.108423.0.html

>>62282906
T400, maybe. Not sure the thermals could handle a Core 2 Quad.

>>62282163
Get an IPS. The screen is beautiful, but as you say. Res is shit. I'll be looking for a bigger thinkpad soon and relegate my comfy wee x220 to my portable shitposting device.

>>62282928
will the t420 do it just fine?

>>62282946
Yeah, T420 can handle a 2720qm well enough. I doubt you'll get the whole package for $100 or less, though.

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x60 desu
anyone know of a chink digitiser pen that will work on it?

>>62282972
hmm
i have an i7-920xm i'm trying to utilize, specifically. should i just save my money and go for a W series?

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>>62282921
>>62281929

Can confirm it's pretty nice. i5 has great battery life, i7 has ok battery life. Make sure you get the 9cell.

If you plan to actually push itnat all though, you'll need to plug it in.

You can throw two 2.5 drives in it easily + a 2242 Msata SSD IIRC.

>>62283084
Noticeable difference between i5 & i7 battery life?

I'm assuming this is just the dual core vs quad core cpus. There is one i7 which is dual core.

>>62276839
>>62277301
This is one of those rare cases where I would not recommend a thinkpad for. A retina high resolution screen does wonders for art.

>>62279476
for you

>>62283243
i7 loses a couple hours off battery. 47w vs 37w TDP is noticeable, but I presume you could get the 4712MQ or whichever one is 37w and quadcore to avoid that issue.

>>62276750
>Models to stay away from:
>Anything with 'island' or 'chicklet' keyboards.
But I really want a X230

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Got a ThinkPad. It's a t61. installing fedora on it because I was having issues with setting up Wi-Fi on debian. It's not in bad shape, the DVD drive seems to be stuck though.

>>62283692
That's bullshit anyways.
1. The chiclet keyboard is OK.
2. On 30 series models you can put on the old keyboard.

>>62283692
Yeah just ignore that point. That layout is a bit dopey but the feel is down to preference. Many people think the new keyboards are an improvement but again, main take away is that the keyboard style and layout is subjective.

Do you really notice an improvement if you add more ram and an ssd to an x60 if you just use it as a 4chan machine?

It already boots up in like 20 seconds right now using linux

>>62283001
If you have that, you could probably put it in a T410 or T510. Go with the latter if you want to be sure that cooling will be sufficient.

>>62283773
>>62283778
Thanks, also one last question before I commit to the x230. Is it worth it to go for the 2.9 i7 or should I stay with the 2.6 i5?

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>>62276750
Should I pull the trigger on a S1 Yoga? It's a display model, which means some people probably touched it but it's a very small store anyway.

Battery wasn't used and is according to the seller working perfectly.

Goes for $680 with 256GB SSD and 8GB of RAM, running a i7 4500U tho.

I could use the tablet drawing meme for college.

>>62283692
I actually prefer the early chicklet keyboards. Later that got lower and lower in quality, but my chicklets on the T530 feel way better than my T420. For one the keyboard does not bend and the actuation force on the T530 is comfy af.

>>62283631
Would be interested in hearing more on this from some anon.
There's a few Haswell cpus which don't seem to be offered on any SKU but I presume also that they can be swapped in like >>62283631 does

>>62283084

>2242 Msata SSD IIRC.

It's a 2242 M.2 SSD, SATA based and ridiculously rare, it's really not worth putting an M.2 SSD into it unless you really need it. It's cheaper to just get a caddy and a 2.5" drive.

I think I'm going to buy the x200 meme and run libreboot+parabola. I already have a x220 so size isn't an issue.

>>62277368
The X230 was built before the most recently discovered attack, but it might have been victim to a previous attacker.

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>buy thinkpad off ebay on sunday
>excited as Heck
>want it by friday so i can spend the weekend breaking it in
>wednesday comes around
>fucker has only printed the shipping label and hasnt sent it off yet
>message him asking him to send it off asap so i can maybe get it by friday
>still no response
GUYS???

>>62280408
You don't need to do all that since windows 10 was already on the machine. You can just do a fresh install and select that you don't have the product key, Microsoft will automatically see that 10 was installed on the motherboard before so you don't need to do any transferring.

>>62284184
>Order thinkpad Aug 31
>Shipping label created Aug 31
>priority mail
>Pre-Shipment
>Awaiting item
>Sep 6
what did he mean by this?

What's a good Thinkpad for a CS student that will last 4 years and has a 1080p screen?

I've been looking at the T430. Will it be strong enough to also emulate PS2 games?

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>>62284286
that fucking sucks famo

>>62284310
Go for Txxxp series, quad core.

>>62283854
I know for sure 4700/800/900/710/810/910 are supported. They're listed as compatible parts. I assume the other Haswell chips are, but I didn't risk it. All the M ones are socketable, thankfully.

>>62284286
What's the shipping window on it?

>>62284286
Similar here. Payment made on Monday morning, shipment announced an hour later, no info since then. It's been only two days but how hard can it be to send a packet. I mean, I can send DHL shipments from my local super market.

>>62284038
Would you recommend replacing the Intel ME on a X230 with coreboot?

>>62283957
you can force an msata there if that's what you have and you're desperate enough

>>62284310
W520 or W530. W701ds if you have money.

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>tfw a t430 for a good price with a 1600x900 screen
>yesterday i suddenly got a dead pixel
my OCD can't handle this
If i want to replace the screen are there any upgrade possibilities? (Maybe a higher res screen)

>>62282677
Wait 8 year. T470 series will be the new t430

>>62284866
The chinks have an adapter to install 1080p panels from the T440s/T440p into 20-30 series

>>62285151
but I don't approve of the t430 either. t60 was the last good one, tx20 were the last acceptable ones.

Has anyone used Coreboot to remove the intel me/spyware?

Does anyone have egpu benchmarks for the x220t or equivalent and a modern gpu?

I'm looking at a 1050ti, but I want to know how gimped it will be over x1 lane

>>62285243
Then then wait another 8 years. T430 will be the new T60

>>62285433
you're wrong. no one ever thought that t60 was ruining the ibm line, except maybe some extreme fringe minority(extreme even relative to this minority). this isn't a cycle, this is an actual degrading franchise cursed by a terrible design direction

>>62285519
I can hear you stop to re-velcro your shoes from here.

>>62285543
actually right now I'm wearing pumps

Thoughts on the X260?

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X260-Business-Laptop/dp/B073HSXZNN/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1504631371&sr=1-5&keywords=lenovo+thinkpad&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011%7C2289792011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011%7C13580788011%2Cp_n_feature_twelve_browse-bin%3A9521908011

Mainly used for web & embedded development, and general purpose computing / shitposting.

>>62277694
Not him but is X200 still an acceptable machine, performancewise? Sure, it won't manage hundreds of layers but can it really run Photoshop decently? And if yes, how does it do as general purpose machine?
Is sort of screen protector needed?
Best pen?

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>>62276750
I know this isn't a Thinkpad but mine does have a proper nub, so can it count as honorary one?
He has four proper Thinkpad brothers, so I've satisfied gods, I would say.

>>62286063
you can't mod/replace anything so not really.

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>>62283773
>>62283692
Classic keyboard does feel nicer but chicklet one isn't really bad.

>>62286002
I think it's still a fine machine with an SSD. I was doing some game emulation yesterday, SNES, N64 and had no problems. I do run Gimp and Krita a bit when editing images and it runs them well enough. Sometimes I edit photos from my Sony A6000 and it can handle the JPEG files just fine. Of course you want to use the raw files but I'm working on that at the moment. Those files can be 6000x3000 so it's pretty cool to see that the x200T can handle them. Now if you do large, CPU bound filters you might notice some slowdown but it's not too bad. I'll see if I can load up Lightroom in through wine and do a few tests to see how it performs

>>62286002
>>62286185
Whoops forgot the other parts of your questions:
>general purpose machine
Absolutely fine. It handles multiple tabs open just fine and I can watch youtube vidoes up to 720p(even 60fps) but no point in going higher since the screen is only 1280x800. With the dock I can get 1080 out through vga(that's all I have, I need to get a DP to HDMI cable) and videos look much better.
>screen protector needed
I don't think so . The screen is meant to be written on by the pen and wiping it down with a dry cloth seems to be enough to keep it looking nice. When drawing on it you will notice some fingerprints but you won't notice them unless the screen is off or very dark.
>best pen
The one that comes with it. But I've heard people use Fujitsu pens too, not sure which models. There was an anon that posted a picture of one he or his girlfriend used, maybe he'll see this post and if he does maybe he'll post it. Also the x220 tablet pen does work with the x200 tablet. I have both and tested it out to see if it works. The x220 pen has to be calibrated though since even the very lightest strokes will produce dark lines. But through software I think it could be a fine pen.

How much does cosmetic wear bug you when buying a used laptop?

>>62286063
That's a child's toy, right?

how do I get I3 to recognise my tablet buttons?

>>62286332
If it is on screen, very. Keyboard needs to be functional and all keys working but print on them can be wear of completely. Shell...irrelevant for scratches and dents.
>>62286252
Thank you. I've always wanted a tablet pc but now that I own five Thinkpads I couldn't really justify buying X201t or higher model. And all I need is a sketchbook with ability to surf net, seems that x200 will do.

Unless X61 tablet is usable.
>>62286350
Suprisingly, no. It is tiny thou, runs Windows or Ubuntu and is aluminium clad. With Apple sticker it works perfectly as hipster bait, as it does look like some sort of Macbook.

>>62284807
How much heavier is the W series than the T430?
That's the only Thinkpad I've physically held.


>>62284368
Can't I replace the CPU in the Txxx series?

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>>62286063
Stop trying to market that thing to us.

Captcha aldana dental.

>>62286476
>Can't I replace the CPU in the Txxx series?
Only non-s pre-T4* series, and in the *40 series only if it's the T540 or T440p. The t440 and t440s went ultrabook route with shitty soldered ulv processors.

jews are at it again

>>62286063
not with that bizarre/idiotic keyboard layout and lack of middle mouse button.

>>62286063
>make a typo
>backspace to correct it
>accidentally turn the device off
at least fn is where it belongs

>>62286415
Screen looks nice, keys look nice, there's just some wear/shine on the back corner of the shell. Would /tpg/ be upset if I covered the shell in stickers?

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>>62286581
Gods, WSAD is screwed and unusable in games.
>>62286599
Suprisingly, not really. Top row is somewhat stupidly designed thou, I really can't understand why it could not be a normal function keys row, with power/volume on chassis side, tablet style. And powerbutton is okay, ' is right under enter key and tends to be missed a lot.
Again, it is tiny.
>>62286350
>>62286350
Specwise it is more or less Surface Pro tier, Design wise, it literaly is tablet screen and mainboard in machine aluminium body.
>>62286537
Won't. I is not a great laptop. Actually, it is pretty crap, because of it's size. Also, overpriced, thou not as much as 'entry level back to school' offering in 12' to 15' range.>>62286638
Not really.

>>62286548
くそ
How's the keyboard on it?

>x230 2.6 i5, 8gb ram, 120gb ssd, ips screen for $280
or
>x230 2.9 i7, 8gb ram, 230gb hdd, ips screen for $315

>>62276750
Best thinkpad model for mom and dad for internet?

>>62286837
T510

>>62286837
W520 and T440 works fo my parents.

>>62286784
the processors are soldered on the x series, so you might consider getting the best you can

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>>62285370
On average, eGPU's that use express card 2.0 are about 70~80% as efficient their desktop counterparts. Honestly your CPU will bottleneck you more than the single lane.

I actually have a 1050 Ti and it's been great so far, but I'm thinking of upgrading to a 1060 6 Gb model for a bit more detail and better rendering times.

>>62286949
Are there any 12"-ish thinkpads without soldered processors

>>62287075
Older x2x0s

>>62277118

DDR3L? So you can put DDR3L modules into DDR3 slots?

Also:
>9 cell battery with Panasonic cells
>Chicony keyboard
>soft rim trackpoint
>fingerprint palmrest

>>62277118
>>62287125
Can the same be done to the T430?
Or is the T420 better with upgrades?

>>62287109
Processors are soldered onto the motherboards of all x2x0 series

>>62287075
Nothing below 14" non-slim. Elitebooks have socketed CPUs in the 12" form factor though.

>>62287358
Thanks, I was looking at a 2570p as well, but they're just not as aesthetic as a thinkpad. This is something that I'll be taking to school and around with me regularly so the X230 was appealing but I'd consider looking at a 14". As much as I want something like the W530 I don't really want to carry that around with me everyday.

>>62281929
I think every laptop has a headphone jack.

>>62287171
yes it's the same shit

>>62281377
>>62279050

>>62277718
tlp

>>62285301
>removing spyware with closed source blob spyware
lol

T430 LVDS -> eDP converter board when

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So I want to replace my x220 with something less chinky (and with a taller vertical screen.) I would like the option to install libreboot but it's not a must. What should I get? I was looking at a T400. I'd love to get an x60 but I cant find any for a reasonable price. Are there any screen upgrades for either of these computers? I'm totally fine with a c2d.

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What is the actual battery life for a T430 with stock 6 cell battery when browsing

>>62288104
3.5

>>62287607
Sankyu

From my understanding the T430 has USB 3.0 and a better GPU? Any other differences ignoring the keyboard

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>>62288249
Danke

>>62288252
standard displayport replaced with mini displayport
no bios modding
that's about it

>>62288341
Bios modding is on the T420?

I'm trying to figure out whether a normalfag like me needs the T420 or T430

>>62276750
Lately my X201 has been overheating. I'm running Arch Linux. What can I do?

Latitude E6410 or x240?
I am looking for a good screen for anime and some light gaming

>>62288790

1. Run htop to see if it's not a stuck process or some other shit
2. Take it apart and blow the dust out
3. Remove old thermal paste and replace with new

This is has been my coursework of action in the past.

I mainly use my current laptop for music and video but I'm looking to retire it and am thinking about getting a thinkpad. Are thinkpads any good for this sort of stuff or should I just look elsewhere? If they are, what models can you recommend? My budget is flexible, just give me what you got. Preferably something smallish; 15" at most. Thanks.

>>62276750
Guys, someone hold me. I just got a deal of a lifetime (for a Yuropoor)

>X200
>Sniped it for 41GBP
>16GBP international shipping
>Ultrabase for it for 15GBP invl. shipping
>Whole setup for ~75 quid
>bought my first thinkpad for 227GBP without working battery and dock

Is this a win? I just found a T60 on a local website going for 70GBP.

Depending on the state of the device, I feel like I've won the lottery.

>>62288922
Seems pretty good to me.

>>62289250
Thank you senpai. I was really insecure about the price being shit, but fuck, nobody even sells these lappy toppys anymore.

Luke smith made a monster out of me.

>>62289272
Just for curiousity, how much is 75GBP in USD?

>>62289292
98 Dollaridoos. Seems strange, because I don't recall the Czech crown getting so strong. Still, 98$ are a fucking steal over here. I see USED DOCKS being sold for 150$!

>1$ = 22CZK wtf I love Czechs now

>>62289318
$98 USD for all that shit is pretty good, I insist.

In my country, the X200 is $90 USD just for the laptop + AC adapter.

If I were you, I'll take that offer :)

>>62289360
Already did, I was just anxious about whether or not I'm a /goodboy/.

It's arriving next week (and the dock next month-ish, because fuck the royal mail).

GF just asked me for a laptop to write her bachelor thesis on, she gets the X220, I get the X200, god damn, that's a good feel

>mfw bought an X131e for 150$
I fucked up there, but overall, good buys.

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>>62283758
Qt 3.14 anon, how much did you pay for that T61 and how's the wearing of the texture behind the monitor?

>>62289392
I want another Chinkpad
> Already T420 owner

I'm between the X200 and the X61. Very tempted for the X61: small screen and 4:3 screen ratio.

They have also the same specs (The X200 has a "faster" CPU 2.4 vs 2.1 GHz) and price ( Around $90USD)

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STICKERS WHEN???

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>>62289499
Tomorrow.

Found a friend who found a x230 boxed. Can buy it in MINT condition.

What upgrades?

>wait for 2k pepe mod?
>eGPU ->8GB Max?
>swap keyboard
>coreboot
>SSD
>any special cell battery?
>ultimate 3 station

Am I missing something?

>>62289477
Good for you, m8! Get some Chinkpads! Where do ya live (generally)? Yurop? America? UK?

>>62289553
DON'T be too eager. If you are, they might notice what a gem they've got on their hands.

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>>62289560
Mexico.

So I have a t440p and when I use the touchpad the cursor moves like a maniac, clicks on everything and I have no idea what caused it. What do?

>>62289594
Oy hombre give the T420 back!

Sorry, man, just had to.

Well, the US eBay is your best bet, probably. After that, make a buddy with IT connections and get Chinkpads through him. OR, if you have enough dosh, you can buy parts on eBay and build the thing yourself. I found a mobo with lower chassis on eBay for 30$ (ish)

>>62289610
Plug a mouse in, try that.

Boot onto a different OS (USB Ubuntu is probably the easiest) and see if that fixes it.

Then try reinstalling the drivers for the touchpad anyways. If none of that works, you'll have to pull the entire thing apart and replace the trackpad.

>>62283692
don't listen to the autist op.

x230 is fine.

>>62283845
GRAIN OF SALT RECOMMENDED:

I use an i5 and it runs like Zeus's ballsweat. My i5 turboboosts to 3.1, so I don't really see an advantage. Your mileage may vary, I only do WPS and PDF reader anyway.

>>62289623
>>62289477
is the T420 actually good?

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The X200t arrived! I had to drive by the post office of pick it up before it was delivered tomorrow because I couldn't wait.

What Linux distro do I want if I want to theme it like windows xp? Right now I have my x61t as windows 95 lubuntu, and this will be windows xp

>>62289633
It happened after I installed a Lenovo service, can't remember which one, don't have my computer with me right now

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>>62289766
It came with an ssd holy shit! Why is this happening to people in /tpg/ lately? I've seen it happen about three times in recent memory

>>62285301
I looked at it but it seemed like a whole thing. I think I'm going to try flashing my T400 with the HEADS project when it's more developed.

>>62289763
It's pretty good.
Mine is base model (I think), Core i5, 4GB RAM, legendary key board.

I will upgrade some shit later (SSD, RAM).

Already flashed the BIOS

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So I want to change out the palmrest on a x220 to one without a touchpad. Looking at the x201 it looks like it would fit just fine if it wasn't for the mouse buttons being longer. Can anyone confirm or deny?

>>62289819
Fuck yeah boi I also bought an x220 and bought a thin hard drive so it'd fit, looks like this hard drive is a thin variant hard drive too. The downside is that it is only 60 gb so it's not really useful an an x220 that I want to use more extensively.

>>62289888
http://www.refurbishedlaptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-lenovo-t420-i5-windows10-3year?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpcTGl7761QIVw7ztCh25oQM0EAQYCiABEgL7kPD_BwE does this seem good to you guys? sorry i know nothing

>>62289819
you won the stallman lottery

>>62289911
How much in $USD?

>>62289911
too expensive

a T420 with an i5 in good condition should be about max 120 quid. Then you upgrade ram, put SSD in, throw linux on it and upgrade it later with coreboot to better cpu etc

>>62289944
$442 freedom shekels

>>62289944
about 430 i think.
>>62290005
that sounds tedious, am i going to save that much in the long run? why not just buy a higher spec model to being with?

>>62290005
I ordered my T420 today with the i5 2540m, 4 giggas of RAM and 128gb ssd for 110$. Let's hope I got an okay deal

>>62290056
Too expensive.
If you buy the base model, and then you buy the HDD and the RAM you'll pay less than that.

Also I think they are putting the Windows licence in the price.

Mine costs like $150 USD.

>>62276750
Should I sell x240 and buy x230 with IPS and backlit?

X240 have very good TN screen that looks almost like IPS but only thing that I don't like in that laptop is because it don't have backlit for keyboard.

>>62290147
YES.

>>62290119
Wow, that's a very good deal m8

>>62290093
You probably will, because once you buy it, it will be usable. Then you upgrade it and it's all about comfort. Of course, if you don't need one aspect or another, don't use it (I need a large battery for on the road, you may not need that).

Think of a thinkpad not as a product, but as an investment. Replacement parts are so plentiful that it's stupid not to buy them when something goes wrong. Today, it's normal to throw out a laptop just because some of the keys aren't working. In the ThinkPad world, it's like selling your car because the oil filter is dirty. Yes, it takes work to change it, but it gives you more use.

Welcome to TPG.

>>62289898
Just turn the trackpad off in bios you autist.

It's a trackpad, not a TouchPad(tm).

>>62289819
Make that 4, I bought my X220 and it came with a 160GB SSD.

>>62290163 Here I meant to reply to >>62290099, not to (Me)

>>62290163
Okay I am going to sell it tomorrow.
I really regret buying x240, first is keyboard, touchpad and then how is it hard to change hard drive.

Only good thing is battery life that is around 17hrs.

>>62290166
>>62290119
I guess I'll have another look around and re-think my approach, thanks a lot for the help

>>62290245
t420 should be atleast 160 euro with Nvidia card and 1600x900.

That is price in my shithole european country.

>>62290245
No problem, glad to help. I've been in your shoes not too long ago.

Ask yourself what you want from the laptop. Then ask yourself how much someone has put into that (time and money). Are you better off investing time or money?

My boss invests money. He spent 400$ on an X230 and a battery. Nothing else. Why? He was going abroad the next day and had money to throw at the problem.

Me? I bought a laptop for 98$ with dock and everything and I'll be buying a new battery next month, not sooner because tight on money.

>>62289898
it definitely will not fit

>>62287011
ok cool thanks
may I ask what expresscard -> pcie breakout you are using?

>>62290147
>only thing that I don't like in that laptop is because it don't have backlit for keyboard.
this has to be one of the most imbecile reasons ever

backlit keyboards are fucking retarded, who the fuck can't touch type in 2017

>>62290410
This. When I was doing some F-keys bullshit, I just turned on my Thinklight. Other than that, why glare yourself?

>>62290410
>>62290435
I dunno but this x230 have ips so is it worth?
I just want to satisfy my autism with backlit but I can do live without it.
TN Screen on x240 looks good and only difference is angle view that IPS have.

X240 have bad trackpoint and I am heavy user of trackpoint.

>>62290553
Depends, then, on what you are going to do with the X240. Try and sell it?

So I'm in the market for a small and portable but decent laptop for some programming. I've been looking at the x230, x240 and x250. Which one should I get? x230 and x240 have barely any difference in price refurbished, so maybe I should go for the x240? x250 seems more expensive but is it worth it?

>>62290630
I'd go with the X220, but I'm fucking biased. I've seen the X230 and it's okay, not sure about long typing, tho.

Basically anything with a keyboard will work for you. With the extended battery you can use one hand for holding it and the other for typing.

>>62290583
I want to sell x240
>Good TN that looks like IPS but don't have good angle like in IPS monitors
>120 SSD
>trackpoint with one button touchpad
>17hrs battery (KDE Manjaro)

for x230 that have
>ips
>500 7200rpm GB HDD
>normal touchpad and trackpoint
>around 6hrs probably
>backlit meme keyboard


IPS for x240 cost around 100 euros and my manjaro xfce boots same like ssd on windows.
Only reason why I would trade my x240 for x230 is because of IPS, touchpad and 2 slots of ram.

>>62290644
What makes the x220 better? The keyboard? (since you mentioned that you're not sure if the x230 is good for long typing)

>>62290630
I own x240 and I don't feel that I brought good laptop.

>it is very hard to open and change HDD to SSD
>one slot of ram
>touchpad uses a lot of space
>haswell CPU that is weaker than i5 from x230 and x220 because battery life.
>don't feel like I own thinkpad at all

I don't see any difference in typing with t510, x220 and x240 and probably x230 if I trade it with my x240.

>>62290669
x220 is only better for keyboard but honestly there is no difference typing with x220 keyboard and x240.

X220 have Intel HD 3000 and that is really outdated.

HD4000 is standard now.

>>62290669
Well I've translated a book on the X220. I played with the BIOS on the X230 for about 4 minutes. Hence my bias.

>>62290750
Not going to be using the laptop too much, going to be doing most of my work and typing on my desktop, only need a laptop for the portability when I will occasionally need it. Thus, the best possible keyboard isn't that important to me.
>>62290740
And iirc the x230 does have HD4000, so maybe I should go with that?

>>62290709
Yeah, seems like the x240 isn't any better than the x230 at all, thanks for informing me. Could you elaborate on the CPU though a bit? How is the CPU in the x240 worse? I thought it was newer generation CPU?

>>62290809
The CPU in the X240 is ULV, so it consumes less power but also performs worse than its predecessors. The lack of a second RAM slot also limits it to single channel, which has a significant impact on iGPU performance.

What's a good distro that works out of the box on a t420?
I've tried void and debian so far and they both have their separate issues i don't want to touch just yet.

>>62290553
x240 has a backlit keyboard option and a FHD IPS display option, the trackpoint is fixable by replacing the touchpad and the battery life is superb because of the ultra low voltage processor.

>>62290903
*buntus work on everything

Where the fuck do I buy these laptops if I'm in EU?

I checked spanish sites (where I'm from) and a few UK sites and the cheapest I found was a T420 for 180€.

>>62290978
ebay mostly, amazon refurbished works too, lenovo puts their own refurbished shit on it albeit a tad more expensive than what you'd find on ebay sometimes.

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> The LCD display is in very good condition, Some of units may have some tiny WHITE spots on the screen

3risky5me

>>62291207
So don't buy from that seller. Easy. There are millions of these things on the market.

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>>62290740
>there is no difference between a chicklet board and a non-chicklet board
Hi Chang.

I just ordered an ex lease x230... are my BIOS fucked?

>>62289766
The actual mouse buttons are shit to press. The right mouse button is hard to press, and the left gets stuck if you press it in too much, how can I fix this? I can't seem to get the keyboard out even with all the screws out, it is firmly in place for some reason.

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Does the ultrabay battery for the T430s give it at least 3 hours of extra juice? Getting about 3 with the stock battery usually.

First time posting on /g/ in about a year and a half, but I just wanted to leave this somewhere.

I made a USB-bootable image to flash the X201 BIOS (in this case, the included BIOS ROM has the wireless card whitelisting removed). I don't have Windows on my X201, and I don't have the dock with the optical drive (yet), so this was the only way I managed to flash my BIOS. It worked for me, so I wanted to share.

I basically extracted the FAT partition from the lenovo-supplied bootable ISO image, did some tweaking, and shoved it all into a FreeDOS 1.2 installation I made under QEMU. I had to prevent it from loading any extensions, which I kind of hacked together in FDCONFIG.SYS (FreeDOS's CONFIG.SYS), and then tweaked autoexec.bat a little.
I first tried to get the El Torito image to boot from a flash drive without luck. DOS isn't my specialty (unix is), and I haven't used it in about 15 years.

Anyway, I was able to boot it and flash my BIOS successfully, so I thought I'd share.

To put it on a flash drive, unpack it and then run:

cat image.img > /dev/sd(Whatever-Your-Device-Node-Is)
sync

Then you can remove it or reboot or whatever.

TL;DR flash your X201 BIOS with only a USB drive.
Download
https://mega.nz/#!jpY10JoZ!rCnxS0yg3YB3l5Hcs4SbQC-XVqhPf4v98Y3SMlMOpXM

>>62278304
The X220 is wider than the X201. The palmrest is not interchangeable.
Only the X200 and X201 palmrests are at all interchangeable, from what I can tell. I used a NOS X200 palmrest without a touchpad to upgrade my X201 to god-tier. Also got a bowl (soft rim) trackpoint cap from ebay, since Lenovo stopped selling them.
>>62280735
Nothing stopping you from running windows in a VM if you have to. Wine usually works in my experience, unless you're using newer versions of AutoCAD or the latest versions of Photoshop.
>>62280736
>Who cares about the shit keyboard
I care about the shit keyboard.
>>62281929
>wanting a 16:9 LCD
OK, if you're really sure.
W520 or T440.
>>62291857
Sorry for the fucked up "code" tag formatting.
I'm so used to 8ch's retardedness that I assumed it worked the same here. I've not been around 4chan a ton recently.

DISCLAIMER: take anything I say with a pinch of salt, because I daily-drive a 1991 rear-wheel-drive Volvo, don't have Windows or OS X on any of my machines, and prefer C to Python for most tasks.

someone stop my inner weeaboo from getting a japanese keyboard for my memepad

>>62276750
best thinkpad?

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New thread.

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Just bought my first Thinkpad; it came with a W10 Pro product key that I'm not going to use.

Anybody want it?

>>62292280
I'll take it if you are really giving it out.

[email protected]

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>>62290320
Shoot thanks.

>>62290171
Where is the fun in that?