where are the custom vega models? tf they need so long time for?

>>62230432
they use them for mining at the factory before they ship them to customers

>making custom PCBs for some of the most advanced technology in the world
If anything they're relatively quick at shitting out custom cards.

ur brokem english is cuty :)

>>62230432
AMD is probably staggering the launch.
Maybe they want the software to be ready before AiB cards launch.

>>62230515
are u a grill?

>>62230448
kek

>>62230432
Because this is the most retarded launch ever

>>62231840
Nothing beats nv30.

>>62230526
>Maybe they want the software to be ready before AiB cards launch.
This would be the first time that AMD gave any fucks about having software at launch.

>>62232246
Well, that's nu-AMD.
Just look at EPYC launch - like every vendor, both software and hardware, present.
Blatantly unfinished gaymen drivers is mostly lack of resources.

>>62232800
great, what's this shit

>>62232850
Some dude undervolted Vega.
AMD is infamous for overvolting cards stock.

>>62232865
is this a custom partnercard?

>>62232879
nope

>>62232850
Basically my RX Vega 56 matches an OC'd GTX 1080 (there are higher OC's with better scores of course) at only slightly more power usage (typically GTX 1080 OC'd uses over 200 watts).

>>62232879
No, default shitblower.
>>62232890
That's the limit of GCN.

>>62232890
BTW HBM2 OC'd still uses the same amount of power at around 20 watts so it's always worht overclocking the memory. Total for both GPU and memory will be about 250 watts.

>>62232907
Yes partner cards should be even better performance with decent cooling. I put my blower at 2950 max and it can get a bit loud but not leaf blower loud. I put mine to 4900 rpm for shits and giggles and was able to overclock really high but the noise was unbearable. The screengrab is about my sweetspot.

>>62230432
Always takes a bit. How many weeks has it been?

>>62232951
>Yes partner cards should be even better performance with decent cooling.
They will have marginally higher clocks.
The main advantage is noise levels.
Better software will give better performance.

>>62232983
There is a dead lul with the drivers right now. They are obviously working on them but also don't forget the new pro WX 9100 GPU's is coming out October so they will be working on making sure the gimping is balanced so they can keep their SKU's well separated from each other.

>>62233060
Both WX9100 and SSG are early September.
Guess why consumer drivers are pure shitfest right nao.

>>62230432
it's been 14 days anon. two weeks. what do you expect them to do in two weeks?

>>62233081
Yep! They are working on those drivers. Also bear in mind the WX 9100 and SSG cards will get the cream of the crop in terms of silicon. Only the best dies will do. Gamers will get the shittiest silicon that does not cut the mustard. Which is why production is limited right now. Also take into account the HBM2 ramp up time for production. It's a real shitshow right now. Plus memory prices on GDDR5x and mining etc mean more folk will flock to Vega as time progresses. It's why I jumped on the £380 reference 56 now.

>>62230468
The reference PCB is top notch. No need to create custom PCBs. All they need to do is slap a cooler on it that can handle the 300W of power it consumes.

Get ready for assrape

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11724/samsung-sk-hynix-graphics-memory-prices-increase-over-30-percent

>>62233135
GDDR=/=HBM

>>62233102
do they need to buy reference cards at release? wtf, thats why they are sold out everywhere

>>62233124
I'm pondering getting a Morpheus II heatsink and strapping on some cool and quiet fans (not sure which fans though yet).

>>62233102
Slapping whatever custom cooler on reference PCB since reference PCB is fucking stellar for both 56 and 64.
>Also take into account the HBM2 ramp up time for production.
Samkike and SK Kikenix are already cutting G5 production (guess why). Hell, Samshit is ramping both 4-Hi and 8-Hi production.
And i think crapple will get top bins for Vega10, Pro cards will get decent ones, and gaymurs will get trash (that is still overvolted for no reason, Vega10 can hold DPM6 at 1.1v, 1.2v is totally overkill).
>>62233135
That's G5.
HBM2 is going to get cheaper once Samshit rams us the production.
The problem is packaging.
2.5D is S L O W.

>>62233151
I said GGDR5x. HBM2 might not rise we shall see. If HBM2 works out cheaper more people will buy Vega (once drivers are sorted it will be a no brainer).

>>62233157
I thought about getting a reference Vega 64 when it was for sale for 505€ at mindfactory and putting an alphacool AIO water cooler on it. But then I read several reviews for their CPU coolers and a lot of them said that their new pumps were shit and they would start to make loud grinding noises after two months.

I decided to wait for AIB cards instead.

>>62233186
Good luck. I may still sell my reference on and get a third party if I can get one cheap enough. Otherwise it's the Morpheus II hybrid mod for me.

>>62233124
Asus did just that. It's not good, they simply removed power limit and added 2.5 slot cooler.
I'd like them OC v56 memory to make it v64 and add 2.5 slot cooler, but AMD won't let them.

>>62233230
No, ASUS is what, 12+2 compared to 11+1 for ref?
PCB is also taller.
Definetly a custom one.

>>62232272
>like every vendor, both software and hardware, present.
>Blatantly unfinished gaymen drivers is mostly lack of resources.
I blame Guy Kawasaki for this. His "talks" are very influential, and he basically memed that it as okay to released unfinished buggy products.

Do we know a release date for any of the custom cards?
I have three weeks of vacation coming up and I wanted to buy a Vega and spent it playing vidya. Please tell me we'll get custom cards tomorrow.

>>62233350
They launched both FE and RX Vegas to please shareholders.
That's it.
>>62233365
No.
Heck, only ANUS showed custom designs.

Don't expect third party cards until end of this month at the earliest.

How good is the reference liquid cooler? Is it worth getting for 700€?

>>62233435
Vega 64 is not worth it period right now. If you want to take the risk that drivers will fix it's inherent flaws then go for it. But it is a risk. Right now (especially if you flash Vega 65 with 64 BIOS) is the performance sweet spot. Matching a GTX 1080 with some undervolting and overclocking.

>>62233435
>How good is the reference liquid cooler?
Dunno.
>Is it worth getting for 700€?
Right now?
No, the performance isn't there.

>>62233472
>Vega 56

>>62233435
>How good is the reference liquid cooler?
Tiny radiator. You're better off with the big heatsink, and fans.
>Is it worth getting for 700€?
My opinion, no.

>>62230432
why would a manufacturer spend time ans money when they know miners will gladly eat shit at twice the price for the blocky, simpler stock design

What are the chances that the 3rd party cards will have better stock performance because they'll take advantage of undervolting by default?

>>62233512
Miners won't touch Vega, period.

>>62233530
Slim. They will still rely on AMD supplying them chips that have a large margin of error (not golden chips). More likely just quieter cooling with slight overclocks and let users do the undervolting.

>>62233543
Not yet. Some dude gets 43mh on his so it is improving. If Vega becomes cheaper to buy than other GPU's expect demand to rise.

>>62233773
Oh fuck.
Goddamit ETH going PoS when.

>>62233773
Sorry I mean to add 43Mh at 130 watts (he's keeping how a secret right now though).

>>62233785
I heard they have put off PoS for a year. Fuck miners!

>>62233792
>43Mh at 130 watts (he's keeping how a secret right now though).
Underclock and undervolt the core, OC the memory.
That's for ETH at least.

>>62233806
I think there was more to it than that. Something about preventing it from crashing due to HBM2 being starved or something. One suggestion was he was running another app that keeps HBM2 voltage from dropping. I dunno it's a bit too technical for me.

>>62232890
>>62232800
Wait, this is an undervolted Vega56 roughly matching an OC'd GTX-1080??

Holy shit.

>>62233900
Yes.
That's the limitations of previous GCN iterations.

>>62233900
oh silly anon, you didn't know that? watch this, the RX Vega56 is literally faster than the RX Vega64 right now. All the Next Gen Compute Units doing absolutely nothing. AMD fucked up bigtime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD9CRQp2YpA

>>62234097
>overclocking something to hell makes it faster
Whoa, Steve.
Now please rope yourself.

>>62234097
>4 0 0 W A T T S

>>62233365
asus says early september but who knows
probably early october for everyone else

>>62234178
That's with power limit removed.
You can do it to any nVidia card too (but you need to hardmod it).

>>62234203
I think pascal can't do that, we'd see some 500w numbers if they didn't hard lock it

>>62234198
Who cares about the others. Asus make top notch cards with great performance and outstanding looks.

>>62234247
You can, you just need to hardmod it.
And no one but LN2 dudes would ever hardmod a GPU.

>>62234268
suuuure.

>>62234268
>t. ANUS shill

>>62234274
I'd advise AMD do the same so retards stop "muh housefire" spouting, but it would kill undervolting and we can't have that.

I forgot to add in the fan powerdraw so on my undervolt of 230 watts (not sure if that includes 20 watts for HMB2?) it probably is somewhat higher than that. I should plug in a kill-o-watt and test this out really.

>>62234304
It won't kill undervolting, but every xXxtremexXx overclocker will rant for ages about that.

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back when asus didnt care

>>62232800
Whether a miracle or disaster, AMD never fail to surprise me.

>>62232979
Weren't partners saying maybe in October?

>>62235143
nobody said anything except asus.
all that clickbait rumor mill worth nothing

>>62235108
They have even more suprises coming soon.

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>>62234519

>>62234519
>>62236691
ASUS made pretty silly things back in the days.
I still remember 3850X3.

>>62235143
they said it's not widespread available until october. hope they didn't meant vega is available in october when the customs arrive

>>62236810
the 5870x2 was actually working quite well shitting on anything nvidia had by a large margin

last ares that actually was doing something

>>62237197
The last one was what, 7970x2?

>>62232890
>>62232800
>le undervolting gives better performance maymay
>T-Trust us please Vega isn't shit
Just take the L like a big boy

>>62237244
t. Jensen

>>62237295
Upvote!
You sure showed me

>>62237310
t. jacketman

>>62237318
>h-he wears a leather jacket
>let's call him leather jacket man
Never understood how this was an insult. Any AMDumbfucks wanna extrapolate?

>>62237347
t. Huang

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>>62237354
t. Chunky grandma

>>62237389
t. Jensen
Shitposting aside, both mommy and jacketman are doing good job handling their respective companies.

>>62237408
True
I agree on that one

Raja is holding her back though

>>62237440
Raja is doing more than fine.
Happy shareholders > happy mandchilder.

>>62237460
He's just doing fine
She could find a much better employee

>>62237496
Better than lead architect of every good (or even decent) Radeon starting with R300?
I doubt you'll find someone more competent to lead not-ATi than him.

>>62237244
I undervolted and overclocked my fury.

>>62237766
I wish I could do the same. My Fury Nitro can barely undervolt, and crashes on a +50 MHz core overclock.

>>62237766
Me too.
It's stable with a -96mV undervolt and 50MHz overclock.

>>62237766
>>62238829
can't overclock or undervolt mine, crashes no matter what

>>62233124
umm no sweetie

most partners strip the boards down to save costs. that is why you only see 1 or 2 brands in xtreme OC videos.

>>62239658
>most partners
MSI is not "most partners".

>>62233102
>he thinks AIB's only start getting their chips when the product launches

I'd like to think you were just pretending to be this stupid, but it's far more likely you really never realized that AIB's get their chips months in advance so they have time to actually design PCB layouts and source parts and supply.

In the future, could you try using your brain for ten seconds?

>>62230432
Signing deals to miners and Chinese buyers so they're already sold out.

there was a video posted today by some salvic dude who had Asus STRIX Vega 64 with the box and everything. im pretty sure it'll be released in 2 weeks or so

>>62239728
did you forget that aibs got final bios mid august?
AMD rushed the RX line.

>>62230432
who gives a shit go get a 1080 tri fan thing cheap

got mine for $500usd absolutely laughing.

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>>62237295
I always love how you AMDrones forget that GPU boost 3.0 isn't aids like 2.0 for undervolting.

I can understand why you'd ignore pascal undervolting though, it makes Vega look even worse.

With the current Vega rebate shit, its fun watching you retards still defend AMD for this horseshit of a GPU.

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>>62245423
>Implying Nvidia factory overvolts their GPUs to nearly the same extent AMD does

>>62236691
>between snickers and bounty
>not between snickers and twix
fucking retarded, into the trash it goes
bounty is fucking disgusting

>>62247620
Tastes are subjective.

another day without partnercards, ugh

Tfw no partner vega56

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>>62252048
pic related

While I continue to /wait/, I figured this is as good a place as any to ask: I still play 1080p/120hz, and MIGHT look to 1440 eventually but have zero interest in 4K+ for the foreseeable future. I currently run an aging R9 390, and have been looking to upgrade.

tl;dr 1080/120hz, what's my sweetspot to max everything? Should I ball on a 1080Ti/Vega64, or do I not need that much?

>>62252478
buy Vega56