ITT we pretend we're on Hacker News >Things I learned

>Straight White Men Considered Harmful

>>62223317
What's wrong with them, anon?

>they said I could be anything I wanted
>then they said since I'm a straight white male I don't deserve what I've worked hard for
>so I became a non-binary pansexual platypus so I can keep my job

>>62223406
Needs more JavaScript

>>62223334
>>62223406
>yummyfajitas writes a glorious reply
>gets flagged
>mods threaten to ban him again
I think dang may be personally responsible for pushing him to the right. He used to call himself "left-wing", just realistic about statistics, and look at him now. He publishes in the same magazine as Nick Land.
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/29/a-i-bias-doesnt-mean-what-journalists-want-you-to-think-it-means/

>How taking a refugee into my home and letting him have sex with my wife has made me x10 more productive

>>62223500
The best is when these phony, virtue signaling liberal CEOs on HN are confronted with the idea of forming a silicon valley union. They absolutely shit a brick.

I still say the best way to destroy Jewggle, Faceberg and the rest of the wage fixing cartel in SV is to simply encourage their employees to unionize. See the true face of Zuckcuck and it won't be Mr. I'm so progressive and shill for diversity anymore

>>62223599
Agreed but what would they be unionizing for? Usually people unionize in hopes of getting better wages or working conditions. All these SV firms already provide that. Maybe if they focused on immigration? No more pajeets

>>62223634
Yeah I mean I'm a college drop out working for a Bay Area tech company. I'll make over $140k this year and I work remote. Where I live the average pay for someone like me is about $80k. There is no pay issue here, they literally cannot hire enough people and now in the Bay Area people like me are demanding $250k

Why X is bad and you should use Y

(15 minutes later)
Why Y is worse than X and you should still use X

Paul Graham: Why you should be focused on hiring Indians and giving away equity to VCs in order to scale disruptively.

[200 points] Using machine learning to identify dick pics (facebook.com)

[1200 points] Node.JS is the greatest framework in the past 10 years

Three weeks later...

[1500 points] Node.JS Considered Harmful

[10000 points] Sleeping considered harmful - Why I stopped sleeping

>>62223634
They pay absolute shit wages, and were busted a few years before Steve Jobs died colluding with one another in order to wage fix. Almost everything you've heard about the great SV wages is bullshit, these kinds of wages are limited to a few companies for people with senior experience like 10+ years in a niche like Netflix FreeBSD CDN devs.

Everybody else is fishing for visas to import pajeets.

>>62223935
So am I, in another country, in fact I'm not even American and I get paid about $120k to work remotely for a bay area corp as they lied to immigration claiming nobody with my skills could be found locally. It's totally nonsense.

The day will come where they fully outsource everything to India and mass layoffs happen with no compensation, that's when all these cucks realize they got screwed. I won't be screwed, I live in poverty land where $200/month buys a mansion but a guy spending $5k a month for a bachelor in SF will be fully and utterly cucked.

How to HACK wifi passwords using Kali Linux!

RON PAUL 2012

[1024] I've just created a 2048 game clone for my OS in GO language with no difficulty. Am I a good or above average programmer?

- 348 comments

Hacker News threads on /g/ focus too much on the SJW shit, and there is a lot of memed opinion about it. For instance, >>62223551 is just not an accurate parody. Hacker News is full of SJWs, of course, but it has more cool tech stories posted per day and more industry veterans commenting than any other website. You see comments like
>Why does Foo do this? It's a stupid design.
>Yep. We wrote it that way back in 1993 because...
Focus on the good stuff, filter and ignore the bad (protip: filter stories with 'women', 'sexual', 'harassment' and 'discrimination' in the title), and you can get a lot out of it.

>>62223935
nice. i can't find any remote jobs that don't require extensive experience working in live production for many years.

>>62223317
Worst things about HN:

A) Pajeets. Totally ruined it, you can immediately tell when a pajeet is shitposting in a thread because they always brag about stupid things, and create petty drama like a bollywood soap opera.

B) Job thread is now 900 posts long full of garbage. Every thread with salary posted has some faggot sucking cock or a pajeet posting his full resume in public without emailing the person (See A - Pajeets)

C) Liberals. They routinely post politics, usually some feminist drivel or anti-Trump junk that belongs on Faceberg and not HN.

D) Web Developers. They originally ruined HN. It was supposed to be start up news. Back then, there were much more than just web startups. It then became HN, and slowly all these web faggots infested and now we have essentially reddit with a another logo.

[1033] How I rewrote Bash in javascript.

n-gate.com have fun

Show HN: nosejob.io - We're the Uber of Nosejobs.

Show HN: JS.js a fork of dipshit.js which is a fork of node.js we're making the world a better place
956 comments

[2343] New Google's half-assed eternal beta project is released to be forgotten and closed in 1 year

>>62223317
> How I tried everything and still failed
> How I made $1000/month porn website
> Show HN: A yet another useless SaaS
> Ask HN: I make 200k a day from a side project, should I leave my current job?
> What I learned by calling my self entrepreneur. (Spoiler: nothing)

>>62224023
>So am I, in another country,

you have to go back

Show HN: Tineet, Tinder for neets (1 point | 1 comment)

>>62224130
https://danluu.com/hn-comments/ also if you want only quality comments hidden under the dumpster fire

Ask HN: Why JavaScript/Java is better than C?

>>62223317
Show HN: A new programming language called Psil lang

>first comment
>"This is Lisp with another name, but badly implemented"
>a hundred downvotes

Three weeks later

[21009] How PsilLang ripped off LISP - John Carmack blog

>>62224063
how do you filter on HN?

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>>62223500
Painful to read

[flagged]

>>62224023
>They pay absolute shit wages, and were busted a few years before Steve Jobs died colluding with one another in order to wage fix. Almost everything you've heard about the great SV wages is bullshit, these kinds of wages are limited to a few companies for people with senior experience like 10+ years in a niche like Netflix FreeBSD CDN devs.

This should be common knowledge by now. If you see someone saying they're a fresh-faced Bay Area grad making bank, they're fucking LARPing or seriously out on the right end of the bell curve.

The outsourcing, the visa insourcing, the collusion between the HR departments, it's an absolute cyclone of bullshit holding wages down as hard as they fucking can.

Yeah, I'm making "six figures," but given my experience and the cost of living here it's like making 50k or some other average wage out in the rest of the world.

I'd love to get out and work remotely but I know for certain my bosses would be on the war path if I left them to suffer with the diversity hires they've swamped themselves with.

Whenever I finally throw in the towel, I'll be going freelance. Not because I want to, but because they're almost certain to be throwing my name on a shit-list.

Fuck SV, Fuck the Bay, and Fuck this sick insane neoliberal corporatist fuckocracy.

[11 points] Lessons from 25 years of C programming
[2 comments]

[1300 points] Why Go is Bad, and why that's Good
[310 comments]

>12 year old kid genius follows a youtube tutorial and builds some boring shit in python / javascript

>>62223317
[FLAGGED] Why Google's an evil monopoly
[FLAGGED] Google censorship


HN has tons of Google employees and Google shills constantly censoring any criticism of evil Google.

>>62224224
With your brain.

Or use a third party app, I wrote my own just so I can kill tangents. A tangent is when somebody comes in and totally off topic drops Hitler or some other bullshit which derails the conversation for 100 thread replies until you can get back to whatever it is the article is about.

You also bookmark good posters, like https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=pbsd and flag all the shitposters who bring up politics or disinfo in your own app (or w/e 3rd party app). Often I'll see vast chunks of a reply thread gone because it's all idiots I flagged in my own app arguing with each other over stupidity.

Whenever a professor is on there I bookmark them too, I should probably sell my list of good posters somewhere and make a Show HN: New Hacker News gold subscription feed

(medium.com)

>>62224094
>Web Developers. They originally ruined HN.
This is an illusion. Paul Graham and Robert Tappan Morris were technically web developers (i.e., they worked on a web application) and got rich through a Web startup. Most of Y Combinator's startups have always been web startups. The problem with Hacker News, as with most other places, is that it started out with above average people and for a while was really good thanks to them. Many of them worked on web applications for a living, but what was important was that they were capable of doing other things, too. In PG's case, he wrote one of the best Common Lisp books, On Lisp. As HN grew in size, its commentators started to resemble the general public more and more. The general public is the cancer.

>>62224133
*We mean the sex act, not surgery.

[635] Allow me to share the sum of my life wisdom (medium.com) [written by a 16 years old]

>>62224224
Write a user script.

[500 points] How lisp is so awesome.

>>62224090
Yeah I should have mentioned I'm almost 40 with a lot of experince and I'm in a senior engineering role.

>>62224269
>neoliberal
Sir, are you a /leftypol/?

[756 points] Why Google is the greatest company on earth (submitted & upvoted by Google employees).

>>62224295
Triggered me.

>>62224289
>I wrote my own just so I can kill tangents
Do you just do it manually?

>>62223317
How I re-wrote ClojureScript in 24 hours using Vue and an expired Tarsnap account

How I traveled the world and created a startup in SF with nothing but a laptop and love. [610 comments]

>>62224349
There isn't many of those now. Unless when you say "Lisp" you mean "Rust".

[9999 points] Why your startup should have a gay/woman CEO (medium.com/theverge)

>How I rewrote thing in language x and it turned out better not because of x but simply because I already did it once before

>>62224411
Yes, tho you could write a simple browser plugin that does the same too. However my filter for usernames I hate will automatically hide their threads (which often create huge tangents containing dozens of replies) so in a way tangents are automatically killed and it's the same people over and over creating the shitty content so I haven't had to physically hide anything in a while.

If you can find the 10% of posters that are truly quality you can learn a lot in a weekend just scrolling through their comments, like pbsd

>>62224063
> >>62223551 is just not an accurate parody
Those are /pol/ fags, ignore them.

>>62223935
>they literally cannot hire enough people
Wow maybe I should stop wasting time being a neet on quadchin and get to studying and building something to show off and start applying

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>>62223317
How diversity in the tech industry benefits everyone.

>>62223317

[4580 points[ Rust is the new binary

Show HN: OP's mom in pure CSS

also, I contribute to half of your thread OP, now fuck off.

>>62224508
>my filter for usernames I hate
1. Is KirinDave, eropple or idlewords in it?
2. If they are, can you please share the list?

>>62224285
Same with /g/. But a large portion of that is consumer ignorance, which infests everything.

>>62224631
/g/ does have a lot of censorship but not as much as HN.

>>62224608

just filter pg and sama

>>62224608
Yes, yes and absolutely yes. Also danso, patio11 and many other Democrat party shills and just general idiots who learned Rails, and feel the need to comment on everything like HN is facebook.

However it's pointless for me to give you my shitlist because it's easier to just make your own I have no idea what your criteria is. We should all make our own shitlists then probably sell access to them, to trigger everybody at HN of course.

dang or sctb, if you see this, the title seriously needs to be updated. Pooplog.js is a functional return oriented runtime and NOT an event processor as the words 'the' and 'browswr' seem to suggest.

>>62224608
>>62224753
Am I using HN wrong if I'm completely ignoring the usernames?

>>62224359
You have to be a true believer in big-box politics to call it anything else.

>>62224753
>Yes, yes and absolutely yes.
Good taste.
>patio11
I remember him by his old business advice comments. Sad.
>I have no idea what your criteria is
If you have KirinDave, eropple and idlewords on your list, we have at least one criterion in common, but I understand if you don't want to share your list.
>probably sell access to them
Fucking build it.

>>62224814
Have you been on there long?

>>62224814
I don't either, but whenever I run into some hysterical political argument or shitposting I assume that person should never be trusted in anything they write so filter them. I mean, I read /g/ so don't care about usernames or upvoting but there definitely are political shills on HN that can't help themselves by derailing almost every thread

Here's an example
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15155534
First post, a mathematician weighs in with a solid reply. Then a shill comes along to derail. Click on the shill and read his history https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=tprice7 he's wrong about almost everything, multiple people correcting him esp here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13347364

Good candidate for the shit filter.

>>62224865
I started using it this week

>>62224955
Why would you pretend to be me?

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>>62224854
Some of those biz advice comments are legit, like always charging daily rate and not hourly rate, but he left those times to shill 100% for common political centrist myths like read his current post history about da poor black man and his state lottery addiction. Shit like that is reddit tier trash and I filter them forever forward.

>>62224955
There you go. Spend some time with it and you will learn who starts shit.

anyone else think tptacek is pretentious idiot?

>>62224997
Outside of infosec, he is. He is the whitest of white knights.

>>62225026
Even in infosec he is questionable.

He, without any sort of irony, claimed the Crowdstrike analysis of the IOCs (Indicators of Compromise) from the DNC computers was "certified" to be Russian because the head of Crowdstrike, who donated to the Obama and Hilldog campaign said it was. These were secret IOCs never revealed to the public, and the US intel agencies were not involved, it was literally the DNC claiming they gave IOCs to Crowdstrike and they confirmed it was "100% Russia".

I always tolerated his deluded feminist comments but after that he went into the shit filter. No hacker worth his salt would ever believe a word Crowdstrike or any other state actor corp says that closely involved with a political party no matter which party.

>>62224997
tptacek's head is stuck up the goverments arse.

he'd tell you white was black if it would help the state.

>>62225070
Politics has a way of frying brains, selectively. Although it's a shit opinion, and I generally ignore him nowadays, I doubt the overall quality of his infosec posts has gone much down. It would be funny if he started to hallucinate Russians behind everything.

>>62224311
>All white males are literally hitler
>Trump considered harmful
>No, you don't need to be an expert to give seminars at conferences (because having standards is considered harmful)

>>62225070
fuck, i almost worked for crowdstrike back when they were only a couple years old.

glad i dodged that concentration camp

>>62224094
As an Indian developer getting my green card in a few months, fuck off. The future isn't yours.

>>62225510
Crowdstrike does work in a lot of things, but just be aware the owner is a political actor much like the CEO of Google is, so anything they say should be regarded as suspect since they are literal shills in that they pay money to a political party and actively engage in disinformation to prop up said leverage they have with said party.

>>62225608
Even the pajeets don't like pajeets though, there was a hilarious article on HN about Oracle, all the pajeets hated working for pajeet managers because of the politics and bullshit involved.

>>62223500
Which one of you shits submitted this and didn't say anything? Let's get it on the front page.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newest?next=15159085&n=31

>>62224970
Because you didn't answer the question fast enough

>>62225660
Anyone with brains either stays away from politically connected groups or jumps in and tries to play ball.

I'm not interested in becoming a tied up loose end because I happened to administrate the wrong email server.

>>62223951
This one actually triggers me and it happens EVERY fucking time!

>>62225707
You don't want to become the Pakistani brothers who just got indicted as "enemies of the US" or some crazy charges? Or shot to death in a """"robbery""""?

Actually this is one reason I left infosec because it was terrifying the levels of state corruption involved in it. One of the few good places left is Homakov's Sakurity if you're looking to get involved in real infosec.

He's too based though, he once wrote a large blog post on how the entire security industry is a straight up scam because companies have no intention of every adopting any kind of secure architecture, they just want a cert they "passed" a brief audit. Working for that guy was a giant redpill in security research. He pays in bitcoins too which is handy

>>62223352

lol, you imitate them really well.
I love how they do that.
Say the least bit controversial thing.
Nobody disagrees directly.
They all ask you a question.

>What's wrong with that, anon?

Then you elaborate.
Then they have a circle jerk down vote party on the first post as well as the elaboration and anything following.

They are the most offensive, infantile, passive aggressive people I've ever had the displeasure of meeting online. At least anon's on 4chan can produce a reasoned response if they disagree on a point.

>>62225764
>Nobody disagrees directly.
this cowardice is very familiar to me

>>62225026
>Outside of infosec

he gives mostly bad crypto advice
fairly sure he does it on purpose

>>62225763
>tfw want to get into infosec for job security reasons but don't want to get into infosec because politics and corruption

>>62225854
Work for Sakurity

He lives in Thailand, based Russian, pays in bitcoins. I worked for him for a while he's seriously the best out there.

He absolutely hates security though, which is why I chose to work there. There's also NCC Group, and Optiv but they're shady state connected kind of places. You will still learn a ton there but it always felt like the NSA was following me.

>>62225764
>They are the most offensive, infantile, passive aggressive people I've ever had the displeasure of meeting online.
Then you're one lucky motherfucker.

>>62225928
I don't even have a ccna yet buddy

by the time I start working in infosec in any capacity this based russkie of yours will have probably retired on mountains of buttcoins

>>62225854
Go into cryptography. :^)

>>62225988
what's the minimum IQ required

>>62225979

Hang out there more
You'll see it
It really ups your troll game

>>62225994
Probably 130.

>>62226022
hot damn, I'm halfway there

>>62225984
Try this:
https://functionalcs.github.io/curriculum/#org2c45041

The 15-213 CMU course. Watch the lectures, read the book (I bought the cheap Global version) and work your way through Chapter 3 which is all assembly. Then do the attack lab: http://csapp.cs.cmu.edu/3e/labs.html

Basically you try some Return Oriented Programming (ROP). You collect gadgets out of program, break through the stack canary and the other stack guards, and manipulate frames so you can run any program you want.

When you are done, you are an excellent candidate for this old tptacek CTF: https://microcorruption.com/login and when you finish it, NCC Group may offer you a job as a junior security researcher. Work there for a while building up your skills and then parachute the fuck out of there directly into Sakurity or similar independent, non state actor type company. Or just become a contractor yourself.

I got into it via the tptacek recommended method actually https://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/06/how-to-break-into-security-ptacek-edition/

This is what Homakov did too. You start as a lowly dev on some shitty project, and you just assume the role of security 'engineer' and you start writing security tests for whatever you are working on using the book 'Greyhat Python' and 'The Art of Software Security Assessment' to guide you to write these test suites. Soon the company will elevate you to Chief Information Security Officer forget about the ccna

>>62225994
Do what the guy from Tor did, show up to conferences where djb and Tanja Lange are and make friends with them, then try and get into TU/e as a direct grad student in cryptography. Need a serious math background though http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/teaching/crypto16/

>>62226013
How about you link an example if this happens so often?
Hackernews has its faults, but its one of few places where you can have serious tech discussion.
The only serious discussion here is consumerist shit.

is hackernews the slashdot of 2000

>>62226155
>How about you link an example if this happens so often?

lol, you're doing it again
This must be killing you
You and your friends can't flag kill me here

>>62226155
Serious discussion only if it passes the zeitgeist of current political climate.

Otherwise it's a troll fest or signal fest of idiots who want to advertise their politics. Maybe 8yrs ago there was some 'serious' discussion on there but no longer really, even the really oldschool and great posters have scaled back or gone to lobste.rs

>>62226196
>>62226155 is the only post I've made so far. Sounds like you made a stupid comment on HN and everyone called you out on your shit so you came here and started a shitposting thread to soothe your bruised ego.

>>62226210
It's pretty easy to ignore the political threads and they're usually the least interesting anyway.

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>>62226313
>is the only post I've made so far

Doesn't matter
I'm sure it's not the first time you've done the HN question thing
On HN, that's bait
Here, you're just wasting your time

stay mad tho

ITT:

People (losers) who can't code jealous of those who can

>>62226608
I only lurk on HN but okay
stay delusional tho

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>>62226687
>its one of few places where you can have serious tech discussion
>I only lurk on HN but okay

lol, riiiiiiight

>>62224094
>and now we have essentially reddit with a another logo.
That's all HN ever was. That's literally the goal of the website.

>>62226210
>Serious discussion only if it passes the zeitgeist of current political climate.

Gotta frame it the right way. It's totally possible if you do it in digestible bites, just read the threads from the Damore memo shit. Overwhelmingly anti-commie sentiment.

>>62223317
>here's my new web framework in a meme language that I used to make an internet

>[5629] How to work smarter not harder (medium.com) [trustafarian who has a multitude of failed startups bankrolled by family]

>>62226871
>implying those statements contradict each other in any way
Find another safe space cause you still look like an idiot here.

>>62223317
-1

>>62226155
> Hackernews has its faults, but its one of few places where you can have serious tech discussion

Any post about Math,CS or EE get ignore or just 7 comment about how nobody need learn it, and these post begins basic material Math(anything above Calculus or linear algebra without proof),CS(algorithms,networks,Theory computation(without proof)) or EE(signal process,basic FPGA,theory information or interconnect network).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15160810

U can thank me later

>>62229632
HN comments
4chan == /pol/ == thread == trump supporter, alt right, racist, neonazis

>>62229632

http://ai.neocities.org

The worst thing about HN is the fully positivist (as in, rejecting any kind of metaphysics) hive mind.

Discussing any religious topic is banned. Reason is the ultimate level on HN. They're wrong

Edit: I deleted my comment as I was being downvoted.

>top comment is some guy shilling his tangentially related product

>>62229632
>first comment
>it's projecting and doesn't know what satire is

Show HN: Hello World in Rust
(250 comments)

>Why Electron app X is bad
>649 points 302 comments
>Google gives 90s MS a run for their money being shady fuckers [Flagged]
>4 points 2 comments

We pretend we're on Hacker News [meta]

>>62229632

Aaand it's flagged.

I can't believe you fags are still using this shitty imageboard. I had to enable jewscript and use jewgle captcha just to make this post.

> [2013] Why we moved from PHP to Ruby
> [2015] Why we moved from Ruby to Node
> [2016] Why we moved from Node to Go

> Making performance-critical application with Node

> Bullshit.js - New 4kb framework for virtual DOM faster than React

> Shameless plug of my shitty SASS product

> Why women in tech have a hard time

>>62229632
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9788317
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4308270

Got any advice since you seem to know your stuff. I'm currently stuck in a dead end job at ncc. I don't really know where to go from here and I'm bored of my work.

>>62230392
>>62226057

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>>62226057
This is good advice, I'm currently working my way through the CMU course and also got the global edition. The bit shift problem is wrong in it lol

this was the final straw for me, when the top voted comment said that airbnb landlords should be forced to allow prostitutes in because hey, whats the problem? If they dont clean afterwards, that's a different issue entirely!

"HACKED" is the most overused word in the tech industry.

I think dang is a pretty cool guy

>>62230624
Does dang have a life? He's on moderating on Australian time.

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>>62225763
Can I get a link to that Homakov blog post on the security industry being a scam? Can't find it on Google. I totally believe it, most vendors are just selling companies snake oil.

>>62224997
He always has to be right about everything.

Even on topics he's not talking out of his ass about, like security, he's insufferable.

I've noticed there are two ways to keep a site Good:

1. keep it small: small userbase. Quality is inversely proportional to Popularity.
2. keep it difficult: either a high amount of specialized vocabulary (making it illegible to the uninformed) or making it god-fucking awful to work with.

That's why hacker news is still better than reddit. (Relatively better, it's still shit in its own special way.)

>>62231127
Exact reason /g/ is shit too.

>>62225763
Do you have any more thoughts on the current state of infosec? This is some of the best advice I've heard all year.

>>62231035

Don't forget the army of supporters responding if you dare to oppose his opinion in any way: "Do you know who you just replied to? You'd better check his credentials before replying again."

>>62231127
This is why /r/netsec is my favorite subreddit, I've had a few posts rejected for not being technical enough.

>>62231127
>That's why hacker news is still better than reddit.
lol.
Both sites are garbage in content.

>>62225928
How do you get hired at Sakurity? What did your resume look like? I dug around a little and their last hiring post was from here- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9473235

>>62231186
I admit that my favorite part of /g/ is that everyone's base opinion is treated as shit, and that you post has to stand on its own. There's no stupid fucking "do you know who this is" replies.

Granted a lot of this board is shit, but then you occasionally get some good infosec discussion in a thread about HN

>>62225608
Futures not for Indians either they're smelly pieces of shit

mfw this thread proved to be more useful than any post being trendy on HN

>>62231298
4chan - The occasional diamond in a huge pile of shit.

>>62231298
shit post law
>how I do X?

> hey guys these guys are smart and better on X
200 respons,paper,links to courses,tons books and advices.

>>62225994
98 - 112
It's just applied mathematics

>>62224997
I did, until I watched one of his talks a couple of years ago, and I realized I was reading the tone in his writing completely wrong. Seems like a decent guy.

>>62231563
I love these kind of replies, I can feel their disgust, their blood rushing, how thin skinned some of these people are.

It's great.

Hey people who complain on HN about racist jokes. I read imageboards for 8 years and HN for 3.

HN is really good at delivering pieces of insight but it sucks to talk there. I'm quite liberal but replying on HN is like walking on thin ice.

4chan is liberating and comfortable. Racist jokes and personal attacks only improve my defense shields.

>>62231602
However, not to sound like a total edgelord (just a bit), It's nice to see replies commenting about our witty humour (tm) and seeing after that some HN guys do have some sort of selfawareness. Too bad it isn't common at all, but hey, they will get there.

[322 upvotes]
No, there is systemic discrimination against women [salon link] and blacks [slate link] in silicon valley [motherjones link] as these studies show and that's why your hate-disagreement must be stopped. It is not censorship when companies do it.

>>62230077
It's not that bad. Software developers on average are very ignorant when it comes to religion and humanities.

>>62225764
>At least anon's on 4chan can produce a reasoned response if they disagree on a point

lel'd heartily

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[420] Google fucks up Internet and privacy for the 9000th time

> wow I can't believe it, have they abandoned the "DO NO EVIL" motto?

>>62224285
I don't know. I remember a thread about some google issue, and all the comments were bandwaggon google bashing, until a google rep steps in and promised to work on it, and then they keep bashing google

>>62229632
It's somewhat nice that among those racist jokes there are litte nuggets of sincere opinions, opinions that people have but are forbidden (by themselves or moderation/peer presure) to share on places like here.
For all the problems that it brings anonimity has that good facet.
When reading threads like this from 4chan I feel the spirit of the internet of yore, when everything was more free and we were a little more sincere.

>>62224311
PG himself is a cum guzzler.

HN is literally mediocre people circlejerk

>>62223317
STOP ASSUMING MY GENDER YOU FALLACY STRAWMAN

>>62232175
get back to /pol/
HN never has gender issues
everybody is male, occasionally gay

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Here's a thread with Hackernews defending lolicon

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15053064

WHY YOU SHOULDN"T CALL YOURSELF <buzword of the month> AND OTHER CAREER ADVICE

HN crowd no longer discusses. Downvoting is less hassle, gives the best effort to feeling about myself ration. "[clicks] - There, I made the world a better place". Cumguzzling thundercunts.

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>>62229632
You're violating the prime directive, anon.

How Rewriting Our Entire Software Stack In Rust Saved Our Company
>317 comments

n-gate.com has the best about page http://n-gate.com/about/

>>62231563
>ugh, racist and sexist much?

>>62223317
good source for lots of material
just as long as you see beyond their opinion on things it's ok

>>62233132
This. Everybody is shitting on HN but it's like 4chan in that you need to wade through shit to find some gold

>>62233155
>coming to neo"200Alexa-rank"4chan for gold
I LOVE this meem

>>62233178
More shit but there's still some gold

>>62223317
>Forcing a paradigm shift by investing in disruptive functional programming

>>62233206
the current shit to gold:ratio makes it not worth it imo

it's like digging through an entire dumpster for a crumpled dollar

>>62233293
A. Why are you here?
B. What's better

Did we get a shout out from Larry yet?

>>62226155
>How about you link an example if this happens so often?
top kek.

>nobody disagrees directly
what a coward. on 4chan too of all places.

>>62233307
>A. Why are you here?
I like rolling around in shit occasionally
>B. What's better
Obscure single focus communities that aren't the facebook secret meme club. You get many posters all dedicated to the topic and the shit gets filtered out quickly. While they may move way slower the quality makes up for it.

>>62233293
Like all love, in the end we lose it, and we are left with only the memories of that which we have lost. I still come here because I once loved coming here, nothing more.

>>62233293
Second on this.

>>62233307
I occasionally get here but prefer smaller imageboards if I'm in anon mood.

Nothing is much better. HN is a nice news dump if you filter out web, Elon Musk, Google-Facebook-Amazon, and unicorn bullshit.

If you have a niche interest then some under-10k-visitors community is a way to survive the modern Internet.

>>62226155
I'm sorry but what did you expect?
this is /v/'s shopping basket board
the rest is pseudo intellectuals that like pretending they ever wrote a single loc that actually mattered to someone else

>>62223999
[9000 points] Node.JS raped me

the absolutely worst thread I've seen on HN was the discussion of circumcision in Norway

somebody said that it is genital mutilation and USians lost their shit collectively

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>>62233483
Bullshit, burgers really defend this?

>>62233546
apparently they still chop their kids' dicks for the sake of some outdated meme

Here's the thing about HN: don't read the comments. You're capable of formulating your own opinions. I believe in you. HN is good because it generally brings a reader much closer to the primary news source than any other "tech" website that will spin facts for many different reasons. That's muh opinion

>>62233483
Well it is male genital mutilation. They call female circumcision female genital mutilation, so male genital mutilation should be brought up to speed.

>>62233546
usa is 3rd world tier in so many aspects it's not even fun anymore
mostly depressing

>>62223317

How our startup learned to stop worrying and love functional programming in assembly (someshittyhipstersite.io)
1234 points | 532 comments

sample comment:

Although it may seem unintuitive, the most progressive methodology for web-development in the current year is functional programming in x86 assembly language.[0] Our web 5.0 startup in Portland Oregon has quadrupled profit and nearly tripled our inter-office diversity levels while retaining our goal-driven agile paradigm. A whitepaper by Schlong et al [1] shows an 85% enlargement of employee satisfaction when utilizing x86Func[2] to facilitate the emergence of a new order of user-driven web services.

[0 ] http://goatse.cx
[1] “Rate of male cuckoldry with relation to Mac usage”; Schlong et al; 2017; https://shituniversity.edu
[2] “The hip new language on the block” - https://x86Func.io

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>>62224130
>24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012)
>xiph.org spends approximately eight thousand words trash talking an mp3 preset, presumably under the delusion that anyone will give a shit about Ogg.

monty from xiph was talking about neil young's snake oil music store, not just "trash talking an mp3 preset". this n-gate web sight is bullshit

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>>62233483
That's the one right?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14291906

Show HN: The X of Y (written in Vue.js)

>>62233369
You put that much better than I could have.
That would be my honest opinion as well.

Spent so much time here and developed many interests that have (believe it or not) lead to a decent corpo-rat profession. Had many interesting conversations in the past. Too many good memories. It's like going back to a destroyed house you used to live in or walking through a neighborhood that has completely changed over the years.

>>62233638
>Our web 5.0 startup in Portland Oregon
I feel sad about Oregon. They're being invaded by the "can't afford California but still want to be hip" crowd.
>>62233636
> somebody comments on HN about an obvious solution for one of the US 3rd world problems
> gets hammered by libertarian 1000 word replies

>>62233702
yes, this one
>>62233606
I agree
this is just one of the examples how the glorified "rational discussion" goes out of the window as soon as community touches an emotional subject

another example was the month after the election results
it was pure trash - people were bringing Trump to programming discussions

>>62233546
>>62233580
not only did boomers chop our dicks off, but they don't even understand the scripture or know God.

it was all for pure vanity.

t. chopped

>>62234061
Are millennials killing the dick chopping industry?

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>>62225608

>>62233483
(((Americans)))

>>62233351
:^)

>>62230392
you could try not being an Indian on a working visa paid one third of a normal person

re HN

Yeah, it has echo chambers and plenty of noise. Political threads can get you slowbanned if you provoke crowd too much but DanG was always fair to me ("just stay on technical stuff"). In HN's defense, it's a site that consistently gets interesting articles with a subset of users really knowing their shit. I've learned a lot from them. You can also get job offers if you display strong knowledge but I don't live in the Bay or big cities where they were at. So, I keep reading despite scrolling through lots of BS and now avoiding political topics since why waste time. ;)

re INFOSEC

Yeah, most of then there and in the industry are full of shit. Their recommendations led to tons of hacks. Whereas, the people that invented INFOSEC (esp high-assurance security) gave advice that's worked for years, they've ignored for years, they rediscovered piece by piece, and the process continues. Lots of fads. You'd think that the Snowden leaks would've settled what worked and didn't but they still double down on their BS.

If you want real security or software assurance, here's a bit of what that looks like:

http://pastebin.com/y3PufJ0V

https://lobste.rs/s/mhqf7p/static_typing_will_not_save_us_from_broken#c_d7gega

Far as tptacek, I found he knew secure coding, pentesting, and crypto but not how to engineer high-security systems. He didn't know about separation kernels or secure browsers like OP2 or IBOS despite demanding a browser as evidence. After a few of those conversations, his response was to ignore my counters or slander me by selectively quoting. Favorite example was when he quoted me saying "firewalls are some stupid crap industry made up" while leaving off my recommendation for high-assurance endpoint security, secure protocols [w/ PCI-based security/enforcement], and network guards built on highly-secure OS's. If you read the first line, you'd probably just think I said don't use any form of network security on mainstream OS's. Quite opposite of what I said...

>>62233351
He lurks /g/ daily my dude. Ycomb memery isn't required.

>>62234653
> In HN's defense, it's a site that consistently gets interesting articles with a subset of users really knowing their shit. I've learned a lot from them.

Yes, I'm constantly annoyed by nicely written arrogant bullshit or parroting SV silly memes as solutions to anything but there's no other option for a "mildly interesting" stream of news and discussions.

Reddit is crap for this kind of content, it's only suitable for cat pics. Imageboards do not attract enough pros because many want a karma-based approval + threads are constantly derailed. Classic forums are good for endless specialized discussions but not random learning.

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>>62224270
Kek

>>62230463
Yes there's a bunch of errata in the Global Version, which is printed in Malaysia or some shit.

I wrote them a very lengthy errata correcting basically the full first 2 chapters and they don't give a fuck about that version, it's purposely wrong since they want you to buy the reg version.

Chapter 3 is much better at least, less errors but they still exist, you'll prob see my replies on Stack Exchange in assembly about them from other readers who have asked about it confused why shit isn't working.

I just go there to find out about current events. Reading the comments is not unlike reading youtube comments

>>62234653
If you go back in time, him and cpercival from FreeBSD/tarsnap have gone at it many times, and tptacek totally evades exactly like you said with selective quoting. Colin also absolutely blasted the whole Ycombinator camp thing as a waste of time too, likening it to a strange cult he wanted no part of. I miss the days when cpercival was enemy #1 on HN and blowing out cucks on a regular basis.

tptacek is much better in blog writing form than he is on social media where he is nothing more than a cringe turbo liberal. Away from his crowd of peers, he writes sound arguments, doesn't evade if you ask him about things, doesn't appeal to authority either. Then you see him on Twit/HN/wherever and he's reduced to reddit quality.

>>62236022
Thankfully some guy scanned every page of the 3rd edition manually and I grabbed a copy before github took it down. I've been having fun comparing the international and normal version as I work through the problem sets. Quality is crap but you can still read it.

Grab it here- https://mega.nz/#!UTxSCTQI!GZF5lyH3vHqcB5qtKhRNMIhaqec5PVGll5ZNSduLmjI

>>62237241
Excellent, should up that to libgen.io

It's an absolutely fantastic book, too bad it's scam priced. I paid less for The Art of Computer Programming box set. Also the 'memory mountain' on the front cover is basically core to the course, where you start learning optimizations/principal of locality. I have optimized countless programs at work after learning that

>>62235586
From what page is that screenshot?

>>62237294
nvm, I thought it was lego

>>62237294
Looks polish since it's in Zlotny currency.

Quick image search reveals nothing.
Type in description of most unique item... returns a polish toy store https://toysbox.pl/klocki/klocki-cobi/mala-armia-ww2/staghound-mk-1-t17e1-amerykanski-ciezki-samochod-pancerny,art,10452.html

You guy's are bad at jewggling cmon now

DANG, the Mod with No Life and Forced Narratives, Exposed!

You can connect with him on LinkedIn here => https://ca.linkedin.com/in/daniel-gackle-0b83061

Finally, I’m delighted to announce that Daniel Gackle (pronounced Gackley), who has already been doing most of the moderation for the last 18 months, is going to join YC full-time to be in charge of the HN community. Many HN users know Daniel as gruseom, though now he’s going to switch to the slightly more legit sounding dang. Daniel is one of most thoughtful (in both senses of the word) people I’ve ever met. It kills him when people say mean, stupid things in comment threads. Moderating an anonymous forum is hard, and the fact that we get roughly equal grief for HN comments being bad and for being too quick to ban people is a sign he’s been doing a good job so far. He has plans for new tools that may not merely arrest the decay of HN comment threads, but actually improve them.

>>62237320
Pirate lego from Eastern Europe actually

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>>62237292
It's already up there lol, along with the 2nd edition in ebook form if you want to compare the x86 vs IA32 assembly

>>62237560
did you get to the lecture yet where that autist asian student tries to argue with the prof about which language came first "but wikipedia says.."

>>62225070
THIS THIS THIS

bump for the new /sec/ thread ;^)

>>62237761
Apparently CMU is pretty autism, from the CMU subleddit-

From a friend: Today at the Zuckerberg thing there was a moment with a student that ended up being suuuuper awkward " He stood up and said "I got something for you" and then went on to describe breaking in to the gym overnight and leaving something for Zuckerberg under his seat. Apparently it was just speakers - he was going to play him a song?? But they were found in the morning before the event. So it just ended up being creepy and awkward. There was a moment, though, right after the kid described breaking in and rigging the stage where we all were pretty sure we were going to die." "I was a few rows behind scary dude. This is what I heard: "Hi Mr. Zuckerberg. I have a gift for you. I snuck in after everyone was gone last night and planted it under the stage." {begins hitting buttons on phone}" "All color in Zuck's face drained when the kid was talking. Crazytown."

>>62239328
Lmao.

>>62231563
what a bigot

>>62239328
I fucking love autists

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>>62223317
*kvetches with a californian lisp*

>>62224094
>A) Pajeets.
rayiner

>Disrupting air traffic control in pure CSS

>>62239328
tpkek

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>>62239328

This turned out to be a nice thread.

>>62240430
bump

>>62223317
Article by: Pajeet Ramtahalsingh

>>62223406
Where are the callbacks?

>>62224014
Underrated post.

>>62223317
Wage gap. The real threat to equality.
1489 comments (1 suicide)

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we did it reddit!

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>>62245794
Great job guys. Make sure to support my Patreon so I can keep producing this high quality content.

>>62231602
>thin skinned
More like shitskinned.

[flagged]

>>62245815
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but I pay monthly to n-gate on Patreon to keep mocking HubrisNews:
http://n-gate.com/hackernews/

[820 points] I rewrote our backend using Clojure

>>62224063
You don't get the joke then. It's the "10x more productive" part that is accurate.

can someone share their filtering script?

>>62223500
Well Nick Land used to be a Deleuzian Marxist, so what do you know.

>Tips to use VIM effectively

>Use ghjk to move the cursor.
>Use :q to quit

>Drinking water considered harmful

>>62231416
fuck off retard

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>>62245970
>>thin skinned
>More like shitskinned.

>>62233358
The idea that asking to examples to support your argument is cowardly sure is something new even for /g/.

>>62229632
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15161049
Huh.

>>62224232
I agree, actually. Python's 4 space indentation should be standard across all languages.

>What's wrong with America? (medium.com)
>1488 points by fathipsterfeministdykefrombayarea 2 hours ago | flag | hide | past | web | 666 comments | favorite
>add comment
>ccolumbus 15 minutes ago [-]
>Maybe discovering America was a mistake after all. I apologize for any inconvenience caused. (Full disclosure: I used to work for the Crown of Castile and I was involved in the discovery of America.)

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>>62239328

>>62223317
>HACKER TRAINING PROGRAM, BECOME AN ELITE HACKERMAN
>99% off, regularly $1,000,000

>>62230235
> Bullshit.js - New 4kb framework for virtual DOM faster than React
> Why women in tech have a hard time
Too real.
> Shameless plug of my shitty SASS product
This is a feature, not a bug.

>>62231035
>>62224997
Who was in the right here, tptacek or pg?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=238325

>>62231186
Both may be mostly garbage, but HN is still many times better than Reddit.

>>62254464
>still
HN is "working" tirelessly to close the gap

>>62247782
You're a sucker.

>>62254464
HN is converging with radditz rapidly

>>62232195
>HN never has gender issues
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9188404

>>62256279
>907 days ago
Now post an example that's modern.