/pcbg/ PC Building General

(((WD))) or Seagate?

What do you /g/oys consider good CPU and GPU idle and load temps?

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>>62207766
seagate

>>62207778
Is the Barracuda Pro worth the premium?

>>62207854
yes, you cant really beat seagate speed with a 5 year warranty and better reliability then WD

currently have amd/ati and want to switch to intel/nvidia. best kind of motherboard? can i save my old ram?

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Hey so I want to make a maxed-out AM4 mini-itx build with pic related.

I've decided on the A12-9800 and ASRock Gaming-ITX/ac (I'll upgrade to a Ryzen APU when they're out ofc), but how do I find the right power supply and CPU cooler for such a small case?

>>62207778
>HGST

is best?

>>62207928
HGST is significantly slower and more expensive then seagate

>>62207970
oh ok

>>62207908

>Falling for the ultra compact PC meme

Unfortunately you have to use the AC adapter supplied and it is 150w

http://www.origenae.co.kr/data/User_guide/M10_User_guide_2.120117_En.pdf

>>62207768
I have a housefire so 29C idle and 65C maxxed is ideal.

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>>62207908
>>62207994

Well thats bullshit. Know any good mini-itx slot-loading cubical pc cases that have a full-size psu?

I wish there was something just like the g4 cube but taller. Slot-loading drive on top, then PSU, then mini-itx mobo, then fan blowing upward from the bottom.

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People recommending ryzen for gaming builds.
Intel is still increasing faster than AMD.
Explain.

>>62208380
the people here are autistic neckbeards that use penguin operating system and always try to deter from the crowd. They are mentally ill

>>62208380
>Using steam as an example when not everyone uses steam

>>62208380
Bandwagon fallacy at best. Plus, there are variables outside of Steam's control.

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I have a buddy who's going to sell me a GTX 970 on the cheap. I'd like to build something with a bit of future proofing, meaning that I'd like the core components to last me long enough so I don't have to gut it once I upgrade my video card in the future. I figure this is my best chance, as I'll be saving a shitload on the GPU. I'm willing to spend up to $700, not including the GPU. Will I be able to put something together that'll be handle the GPUs of a year or two from now?

Is this a good build if I include all the optional components?

https://www.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/intro.html

>>62208533
Just get a 750w HX, TX, or AX from Corsair that is decently build and itll run two high end cards without blowing up.

>>62208380
by the same metric the 7700k is basically used by <3% ish of steam users, turns out steam is filled with filthy casuals

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is this a meme

>>62208542
>https://www.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/intro.html

that is literally the best possible build

>>62208153
Silverstone FT02 (both versions)
Ncase M1

>>62208768
Sounds about right

Am I missing anything critical here? I know about the 7th gen processors and Windows 7 and how to patch it so it can update:
CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

Storage: PNY - CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Western Digital - Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card

Case: Cougar - Panzer Max ATX Full Tower Case

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 7 Professional Full 32/64-bit

Snack: Pop Tarts Frosted Strawberry 3.67 oz 2/Pack 6 Packs/Box

>>62208917
You'll want a higher end chipset for that K series sku.

Is it good idea to buy used PSU?

My ebay seller sent me spare LGA775 motherboard and I happened to have old e6600 lying around with old ram sticks and hdd. I think it might be fun to buy small case and utilize it as a small [spoiler] and useless [/spoiler] home server but don't want to commit new PSU for it.

what do?

>>62208977
Depends on what it is, if it's a cheap EVGA or Corsair CX I'd so no, but something like a well built seasonic or Corsair AX used can be a good deal.

>>62208771
Explain.

>>62208959
How much of a difference would a Z270 make compared to the B250? I've already ordered the parts, but if it's significant enough, I can always just send it back.

>>62209126
It's the overclocking, mainly. It's always funto see what the chip will do on stock volts, stays cool and you can get more from it.

>>62209152
Alright, thanks for the info.

>>62208389
Mactard hipster fag says what?

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What do the crazy expensive motherboards offer over the more reasonably priced($100-$150) ones? I'm going Ryzen 1600X for this build, and it'll only be my second build, my first having a nice but reasonable Gigabyte $135 board 6 years ago. Is it only better quality/rice/overclocking capabilities, or is there anything something better for normal builds?

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In the process of transferring cases and this thing broke off in the HDD thing, I need it out to mount it in the holder for the new case. Any ideas?

Pic related it's the red-filled hole on the right

>>62210187
surer glue a stick to it then pull it out once dry

I just bought everything I need (Minus peripherals) for my first build:

>CPU: AMD - FX-9370 4.4GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor
>Cooler:Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
>Motherboard: ASUS AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - M5A99FX PRO R2.0
>Memory: G.Skill - Value Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
>Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Video Card: NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Founders Edition Video Card
>Case: Cooler Master - Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
>Power: Antec - EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Came out to just over $800 with shipping accounted for, which was what I was looking for price-wise.

How did I do?

>>62210400
>not ryzen
I like the FX chips, but what is wrong with you?

>>62210400
> FX-9370
ANON YOU MADE A TERRIBLE FUCKING MISTAKE

>>62210145
Usually just things that are useful for overclocking. X370 has support for SLI/CF and more ports but is otherwise the same. Higher end boards use better parts but for stock speeds it makes no difference. They also have nice things like dual BIOS, easily accessible voltage check points, 7 segment displays for debugging, etc.

>>62210419

Came down to price relative to how intense I was going to be with my system. I'm only going to use it for light gaming.

>>62210400
>FX-9370
Are you building a space heater?

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r8 my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZQvM8
by budget is ~$2250

>>62210400

>#CurrentYear
>Buying a 220W TDP CPU
>1 stick of ram

No amount of Costanza.jpg would be enough to express my disgust

>>62210449
An AMD Ryzen 5 1400 would've been a better choice. Similar price, much better performance despite having half the physical cores.

>>62210519
Adding onto what this anon said, you'll also have better upgradibility since Ryzen boards are allegedly being supported until 2020. Also, you wont be stuck with gen 2 PCI-E speeds unlike AM3.

Bonus: You wont have a housefire, unlike that FX chip.

Dot or line

>>62210656
Pea

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>>62210656
Forgot pic

>>62210519

Let me see if I can cancel my order of the FX-9370. I bought it from OutletPC.

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>>62210667

>>62210681
You would also need to cancel the motherboard. AMD's new Ryzen chips are incompatible with the AM3+ socket. The new Ryzen chips use the AM4 socket in either A320 (entry level, no overclocking), B350 (mainstream. overclocking, crossfire), or X370 (enthusiast. overclocking, crossfire, sli) chipsets. Most will recommend a B350 board.
You could also cancel the water cooler since most Ryzen CPUs (exceptions being the 1600X, 1700X and 1800X) come with a decent cooler that will support a moderate overclock.
Also, Ryzen LOVES fast memory due to the way the architecture works, so 2666+ mhz DDR4 memory is highly recommended. And it has to be DDR4. DDR3 will not work.

would a 550w PSU be enough for a i5 + GTX 1070?

Any good 4tb HDD reccomendations?

Going to be used for general use, so hopefully good lifespan/track record. I was looking at the Seagate Ironwolf NAS drives, anyone have any input?

>>62210756
get faster ran
>2 8TB HDDs
for what purpose? In 99% of cases, a 1 or 2TB HDD will suffice

>120 GB SSD
got for 240 GB. more GB for less money comparatively

>DIYPC case
While I like some of their styles, don't do this. Choose something else

>>62210726

The motherboard's gonna be a sumbitch to get off my hands. I bought it from an eBay seller and can't cancel it.

>>62210793
This rig is only for watching porn

>faster ram
Don't need it. The RAM intensive thing it will do is tile 4 1080p videos

>2 8TB HDDs
Need it

>120 GB SSD
Don't need anything more. It will host the OS and rotating file cache.

>DIYPC case
It will be in a cabinet

>trying to fix computer
>go to install HDD
>HDD flops out
>turn on
>click
>click
>click

Fuck everything. Just fuck everything. I don't have the money for this shit. I was on shoestring as it is. Fuck. Literally. Everything.

>>62210862
I didn't mean the DIYPC case was ugly. It's decently good looking.
What's wrong with it is it will be a PITA to build in due to sharp edges, and out of spec pieces. Go for a Corsair Carbide series if you have to

>>62210894
take a breather and calm down. Then check the wiring.

>>62210938
>Corsair Carbide
Thanks for the tip

>>62210862
>This rig is only for watching porn
There's no reason whatsoever to spend $150 on a GPU, then.

>>62210947
>check the wiring
Eh?

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Help pls

My first PC build in a long time, I'm not current on what is good or not, do you have any recommendations?

>>62211077
How about you start by reading the fucking OP.

7700k or 7740x if single core performance is important to me?

>>62211106
7350k. Also, never EVER buy a 7740x, it's a CPU that has no reason to exist except maybe if you're trying to break records with liquid nitrogen.

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>>62210947
>>62210979
Thank you, Anon. You were right. The fucking SATA power connector broke right in half.

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>>62211207

Considering going from Phenom II 960T + GTX 660 to ryzen 5 1600 + gtx 1060, primary use is gayming with some scientific computing on the side, do I have to buy top quality RAM if I go with ryzen?

>>62211258
It was connected the right way, I promise. Plastic just snapped apart. Must be defective. I once fried a computer putting in cables the wrong way. I quadruple check that shit.

>>62211105

Sorry champ,

budget around 1500 aud, but has some wiggle room

i'm mainly looking for if any of these parts are not reputable or have issues that I couldn't find

the motherboard is the one thing I am least sure about.

also is the 1060 worth it, or should I just upgrade to 1070?

I also see that the OP says no i5 unless discounted, if I was to get an i7, do I get the 7700k or 6700k?

>>62211291
1060 6GB is a fine card

>>62211077
NO ONE recommends Intel anymore. AMD came out of fucking nowhere and made all of Intel's current lineup virtually irrelevant.
Read the OP and start doing research on AMD's new Ryzen 3 (core i3 competitor), Ryzen 5 (Core i5 competitor), Ryzen 7 (Core i7 competitor), and Threadripper (Skylake X competitors) CPUs.

>>62211291
>I also see that the OP says no i5 unless discounted
The OP also says to get an AMD Ryzen 5 instead. And unless you're building for a strict 144 FPS at all fucking times, a Ryzen 7 is better than a Core i7. And even then, there are plenty of games the Ryzen 7 can do 144 FPS with.

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Contacted EVGA asking about a replacement SATA connector for the PSU. I've never seen one of those be defective, but then again this is only the second I've seen. Weird.

Once again, thanks for the help Anon. You're the best.

>>62210798
Just resell it. You should try to ask for advice BEFORE splurging on all your components, anon.

>>62210698
That's a turd, sir

>>62210698
>>62211355
What are you? A poorfag or something? Don't you have a lizard genetically modified to poop thermal paste?

how do I get the public link to my newegg wishlist all the time when I access it its secure and no one can see I already set it to public

also can someone rec me a high air flow case with a CPU heatsink over 150mm and a GPU length 300-399mm?

>>62211402
Silent Base 800
6 fan mounts (3 fans included)
170mm of heat sink clearance
Up to 400mm vidya if you remove one of the two HDD cages
And it's sexy as fuck to look at
But fair warning, it's very expensive

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Hello /pcbg/
I'm looking for budget (something like 200USD) GPU for my i6600 pc.
Because of mining craze decent AMD stuff is way above my budget (cheapest Radeon 570 is around 370 USD) so I stuck with only two options - 1050ti (170-180 USD) and 1060/3gig (around 250 USD).
Which one should I go for. I konw 1063 considerably faster, but 3 gigs in 2017 looks like really bad idea.
Oh, and I need a GPU that will do the job for the next two years so which one should I buy?

>>62211451
1050Ti

>>62211451
Go for the 1050Ti, it'll be a viable card for at least a couple years

>>62211451
CUTE

real talk guys. i5 or i7? the only difference is hyperthreading and that does nothing for games. not to mention the i5 can overclock better and you can save $100

>>62211512
>the only difference is hyperthreading and that does nothing for games.
Look at benchmarks for recent games(and pay special attention to minimum fraterates) and try saying that again.

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>>62207739
Thoughts on this mobo?
Hoping it isn't as much of a meme as the h110 btc pro

>>62211534
It's a meme board.

>>62208533
Yeah you should be able to. A stock 1600 can keep up with a 1080Ti right now, so with an overclock I'm sure it will be just fine with a 1170 or whatever.

>>62208917
>unlocked cpu
>good cooler
>motherboard that doesn't allow OC
shit dude

get some faster ram, use at the very least windows 8 (but 10 is better for games).

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>>62211329
>Wrap broken connector in duct tape
>Connect HDD with second SATA connector on the line
>Slide it in
>CLICK
>Power down
>Disconne-

What the fuck?

>>62210145
>I'm going Ryzen 1600X for this build
Get a 1600, the 1600X doesn't come with a stock cooler, and both the CPUs can overclock to get the actual same performance.

>>62210400
Are you a time traveler?

>>62211534
>6 rows of three PCIe 1x slots each
what the fuck do you even do with this

>>62211270
Also related, I have an AM3 HSF, is it compatible with AM4 socket? Google is rather undefinitive on the matter

>>62210485
>RGB RAM
>non m.2 SSD
>paying $100 for windows
>$80 for a non mechanical keyboard

>>62211606
you have hella faulty PSU, brah
RMA that shit

>>62210485
oh and
>1700X instead of 1700 when you're clearly going for an overclock
I'd rate it 6/10. Get a 1700, some Flare X, and an M.2 SSD, and that's a 9/10.

>>62210756
Just get a 1200, they have the same performance after an overclock.
Also you don't need an aftermarket cooler, the one they come with is good.
get some faster ram, ryzen works really well with it. I'd aim for 2800 at least, 3200 is pretty much ideal.
Corsair's CX line of PSUs isn't good, get something else.

>>62211653
wait i didnt see this post >>62210862
you're spending way too much on the cpu and gpu then.

>>62211623
Mining

>>62211630
The PSU itself is fine. The cables just seem to be cheap. Switched to my second SATA connector. Seems to be working.

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>mfw got a new case for my ancient build cause my i5 760 is still going steong

>>62211077
Don't get an unlocked intel processor with a motherboard that doesn't allow overclocking, for a start.

>>62211534
>18 1x slots
>THREE 24-pin mobo power sockets
>two DIMM slots

this is the stupidest thing I've seen yet today

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>>62210485
>1700X
>RGB RAM
>NEX PSU
>60Hz monitor

good benchmarking/stress-testing tools for a new PC?

>>62211270
You have to buy decent RAM yes, Ryzen works best with fast RAM.

>>62211624
Most manufacturers will ship an AM4 bracket to you free of charge.

>>62211451
You should be able to get a 1050Ti for around $150.

>>62211534
read the last line of the OP.

>A10 9700
seriously?
this general should be named AMD PC Shilling General

>>62211756
don't worry nobody actually thinks this is good except one guy

What's the best place to find decent dual socket LGA1366 motherboards for relatively cheap?
I impulse bought dual X5670, 24GB DDR3, and a HD7950 from a friend for $40 and some beers (about $20 worth) last night, and I can't seem to find any under $500.

>>62207739
Reminder that Ryzen still has the NPT bug as of today.

>>62211769
Your friend doesn't have a board?

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>>62211077

How about now?

What should you be looking for in a motherboard?

Is this one fine?

>>62211794
Unfortunately he has no dual socket 1366. He has some dual 2011, but so far I'm out of luck for personal contacts.

>want to replace damaged motherboard
>would have to buy a new cooling solution AND fucking DDR4 RAM
>current memory and liquid-cooling solution becomes completely useless
Can I do ANYTHING with my old components? They're just gonna be shelved when I can finally afford to buy new stuff

>>62211805
Post the link to your pcpartpicker list, it's easier to read and edit than an image.

>>62211819

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/K9tfWX

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Thinking about improving this piece of shit (Lenovo G550). I can upgrade RAM from 3 to 4 GB, and buy an SSD. Is it worth it at all? I only browse and program with it, have Ubuntu MATE on it.

>>62211836
an SSD is always worth it.

>>62211805
Do you need to go through PCCG? If you don't live near them, check directly through their website for shipping options and potential deals/discounts.
If you don't have to go with them, it might be worth checking some other stores, such as Mwave, Umart, or depending which part of the country, PLE/Austin (WA) or Scorptec (NSW)

>>62211919

I've been looking at PLE, but their prices seem to be overall higher than PCCG.

I am planning to buy the case from PLE, as it's only $1 more, and it pretty much cuts shipping in half from PCCG.

I am in Perth. I've used PCCG before and had no problems.

>>62211828
Alright, so I don't know why you're getting the AIO watercooler, but you don't need it. ("because it's cool" is a good enough reason mind you.)
Get a 1600 instead of a 1600X. It comes with a good stock cooler, and once overclocked, those two CPUs have the exact same performance.
Probably don't get the VDH version of this motherboard. If my quick research is correct, this denotes a version with worse VRMs and power supply to the CPU, which is fine for stock frequencies but not as good for overclocking.
Get faster RAM. Ryzen responds really well to higher speeds, so DDR4-3200 is pretty much ideal for it. Aim for at least 2800 though.
You can also just get a single stick of 8GB if that's less expensive, the benefits of dual channel outside of very specific benchmarks are almost nil.
I hope you have a spare HDD to go with that SSD.
A 1060 6GB is a decent card for 1080p60.
That PSU is good.

>>62211756
>muh upgrade path
just buy a Ryzen 3 instead and get a better processor on the same fucking path

>>62211962
I agree, but Ryzen needs a dedicated GPU.

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Hey guys I've got a new PC and was hoping I could just move my old hard drive over to the new system. Is this possible without a big hassle or should I just reinstall windows?
I'm not very good at this stuff.

>>62211980
Reinstalling is less of a hassle and you'll get a brand spanking new install clean of old bullshit you accumulated over the years. My vote is for reinstalling.

Watercooled Vega 56 flashed with 64 bios
OR
Watercooled Vega 64

both MSRP so $100/100€ difference

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>>62211949

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rxtfWX

Made some updates, I'll use the stock cooler for now,

>>62211996
Cool, thanks.
Do you recommend pirating windows 7 or 10?

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>>62211931
Ah, understandable. Yeah, I'm about 100km south of Perth, so my options are pretty limited when it comes to reasonable shipping prices.
Pic related is a colour themed build directly from their website if you're into that sorta thing.
This is why I bought my case local, sure as hell saved me on shipping.

>RAM prices continuing to rise
>SSD prices still really high
>GPU prices about to get even higher

I feel like waiting for Volta to drop for a new build next year is a mistake and I should just build now. What do anons?

>>62212032
That looks good. Honestly, I'd just pirate windows 10, or buy a key off of a website for like $25 if you want to go legit.

>>62212043
Just build now with what you need. Waiting is shit concept, because there's always something better releasing.
Unless something better than you had in mind releases within the next month or so, don't bother waiting.

>>62212053
Is waiting for Coffeelake 8700k a valid reason to postpone the build? I want the frames that a 7700k pushes but 2 extra cores would be nice enough to keep for quite a bit

>>62212043
build NOW, or be prepared to wait like, a year for good prices again

>>62212082
yes. Buying a 4 core is retarded when even Intel is about to release a 6 core for a lower price.

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>>62212111
>Intel
>lower prices

>>62212100
I was planning on a summer build, but maybe I should just pull the trigger now. I almost have all the funds, so maybe I can piecemeal off my current build to get the rest of the parts and hold parts til the 8700k drops

>>62207739
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KB73xY
going to be an upgrade to my current set up. I currently have a r5 1600, for gaming it's quite fine, but for video editing/virtualization it leaves a bit more to be desired. I've had it with window's shit so I'll be moving to linux and passing through the 1080 TI for anything I need windows for, ie. gaymes. Main purpose for the rig will be video editing and virtualization in that case.
Other notes
>all m.2 ssd
I really just dont want to deal with the hassle of cables anymore, its 2017 and the cost of going with m.2 over sata is marginal. I'm currently using a sata based drive that will be switched out for the m.2, one 525 gb for both the host and the virtual system, the 1.1 tb for shared storage, the nvme for a scratch disk
>second gpu
all i need is something to drive video for the linux host, and I need it to be single slot, ideally passively cooled
>infiniband card+tv tuner
for communication to my NAS, and watching sports

>>62212141
The entire i5 lineup is 6 cores. Definitely going to be cheaper than the 7700k meme.
Whether the price is worth it compared to a R5 1600 is going to be another matter.

>>62212153
should always have at least one platter drive (2-4TB) for massive storage

>>62212153
Damn dude.

>>62212203
I have a 32tb NAS for that
>>62212209
im tired of the rust, and I may as well try to take full advantage of this system

> gtx 1080 just arrived
> install it into my system
> everything works fine

but damn that gigabyte 1080 is fucking looooong

>>62212283
>> everything works fine
you sound almost disappointed

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>ignoring how the thermal compound creates bubbles as you take multiple tries to attach the CPU cooler

>>62212291
> gtx 770 gives bsod
> shit
> get gtx 680 from friend
> drivers are fucked up won't even register the card
> reinstall windows etc
> install gtx680
> it's always running at 100% fanspeed
> friend didn't know his card was damaged
> play with intel hd4500 integrated card for a month

it was a hell of a trip

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>>62212050
>>62212042
>>62211949

Thanks for help lads, I changed up the GPU for one that is on sale and is white, and added a HDD.

>>62212327
>> it's always running at 100% fanspeed
>> friend didn't know his card was damaged
he just lived with it at 100% all the time?

>>62212331
I still feel a bit sad to see you spend so much money on windows, but the parts look good.

>>62212336

to be honest i'm scared of getting a key from a less than reputable website

is there any source for keys that is safe and reputable?

>>62212336
>he just lived with it at 100% all the time?

yes and then he bought a 970 because the 680 was too loud

Asrock AB350M Pro4 or MSI - B350M GAMING PRO?

Is it a good time to build a pc?
Im going for 144hz 1080p btw. Im from i5 haswell so be gentle

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsPBKZ

My first time building a pc, I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing.

Any advice for the cpu? The guide I started with had an i5, but I saw some opinions that that wasn't a great idea. Looking to keep the whole build under $1600, but I'm open to going a little over.
Obviously, I'm also open to any general advice/warnings.

/pcbg/ i bought another HDD, seagate ST1000DM010 , given even after connecting it to all possible sata ports, my BIOS still doesn't detect it at all, and in device manager it only shows as unidentified, also can't initialize this drive in disk management because error pops up. Can i safely assume i bought busted HDD and should return it?
Cables are working correctly, since i connected them to my old HDD drives, and everything worked as normal.

>>62212420
What are you going to do with this build?

>>62212507
Gaming, mostly.

>>62212394
anyone anons? im about to order

>>62212420
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XW73xY
Add a good air cooler if you want to go for a big overclock, and change the case to one you like.

>>62212420
oh also don't use wifi if you can avoid it.
and the wifi card you chose doesn't even support ac.

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>>62208153
FT03 as mentioned should be exactly what you're asking for. Also check out LianLi and Fractal for their mITX cases with optical drives.
Jonsbo have lots of cool mini designs as well and if you want a more conventional tower just shrunk maybe the EVGA Hadron is for you.
Do you plan on using a dedicated GPU anytime in the future?

>>62212644
wait, that's a blower 1080.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJ2cXH

>>62212565
The one with better radiators.

>>62212644
>>62212653
Yeah I was planning on ditching the wireless card anyway, don't know why I put it on there in the first place.

Thanks for the help, friendo.

>>62212691
I think the ASRock one has slightly better build quality, but my ram isnt listed on their site as supported

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-B350M PRO-VDH
-R5 1600
-2x8 Corsair 3200 Blue LED

Anything above 2133 ram crashes my system, when will this nightmare stop?

ps i updated to latest bios and tried almost everything, not even 2400 could post... fucking shitshow this ryzen...

>>62212723
have you tried increasing voltage or timings? do you have a big oc on the cpu?

>>62212723
>LED RAM
you dun goofed

>>62210656
Annular

>>62212734
tried going up to 1.4V
tried timings up to +4
nothing not even 2400mhz........................................................................................................................

>>62212813
it was cheapest 3200mhz ram in my country

>>62212861
are you using the XMP profiles?.
turn on a-xmp, switch memory speed to 2933 manually then see if that works.

I want a dedicated >gayming server for some friends and I, and I'm contemplating going for an LGA1366 motherboard & X5650.
Would it be better to just get an i7 Dell optiplex to use as a dedicated machine for that? Do the 2 cores matter for hosting a >gayming server?
Also, does the core count matter much for my own dedicated storage box attached over the network? It'll be only me that uses it, so would there be a benefit in using an i7 optiplex for that too?

>>62212710
Get the asrock. I built a 1600 system with that for my nephew, its vastly improved since launch. Just make sure to update, memory speeds are excellent

i7 7700k or Ryzen 7 1700?

>>62213204
depends what you're going to do with it

>>62213140
But it doesnt list my specific RAMs as supported on their site

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16

Hmm. Apparently I can buy end connectors for PSU SATA cables. So even if EVGA refuses to replace the cable, I'm not... totally fucked.

>>62213222
Gaming only. LI says Ryzen CPUs are mostly for streaming/multitasking which I won't be doing but I want my rig to be futureproof.

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Is this decent enough? Ideally I'd rather a processor beefier than 3.6GHz, but I'm going with what they have.

Cheapest build to play Dota 2 on high @120fps?

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What's a good monitor to play with a gtx 1080 ti?

Will I be fine with a ASUS 27" ROG SWIFT PG278QR ?

>>62213423
If you mean futureproof as in "I won't ever be upgrading and will throw it all away in 5 years", the Intel should be fine. If you mean futureproof as in "easy upgrade path", AMD all the way.
The 7700k has better performance in games, but the 1600 is better value (I wouldn't go for a 1700 in your case, no increase in gaming performance), and the platform supports easy overclocking and upgrades. Comparatively, the Intel processors coming out this month won't be compatible with a motherboard you'd buy today for the 7700k.

All in all, if you want the best gaming performance right now, it's 7700k. If you want a good all-rounder and better value, 1600.

>>62213465
why 6850k?

>>62213767
he's buying a prebuilt, do you think he has any idea what he's doing? he thinks how good a cpu is is measured in GHz.

>>62212352
https://www.kinguin.net/se/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

Use paypal and skip their own buyer protection. If anything goes wrong just contact paypal instead.

Key should arrive within an hour, then you just download windows through microsoft.

I do this all the time with systems I build, its decently safe.

>>62213828

Thanks mate, I'll give it a shot.

>>62213849
Dont buy it until you have your system built and ready. You want to activate it asap.

>>62213882

Yeah, got it, thanks.

Are sites like this pretty shady?

How do they get all these Win keys?

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I realize that nobody on /g/ has a crystal ball that can predict the future, but can anybody around here make an educated guess as to when GPU/Memory prices will come down again?

I've been postponing building a new PC for a while now, mainly because I'm cheap and wanted to hold on to my current desktop as long as feasible.

Now my PC is starting to struggle just with everyday stuff, but 16GB of RAM is like 140€ in my country and the GPU situation is even worse.

Is there any chance of a significant improvement until the end of the year or will I have to bite the bullet and part with my shekels?

>>62213767
>>>62213828
Both my hands are fucked up with nerve damage so building it myself isn't really an option, so I just picked the better of the options available.

>he thinks how good a cpu is is measured in GHz.
Okay, now I know better.

>>62213922
Shit, meant for >>62213816

Should I get a meshify C? i like the way it looks and im need of a new mod tower case. gotta have at least 3 3.5 inch drives and 2 2.5 inch drives

>>62213903
Memory is literally going up right now. Expect a slight rise in prices starting next week.

>>62213943
Sure, it's a good-looking case and is well built. Nice airflow too, nice to build in.

>>62213993
its for an old school upgrade (fx series). gonna get a d15, a pwm splitter and probably fix my storage solution (right now i have an ssd with windows and a 2.5 hdd with gnu linux, gonbna chuck g/l onto a 850 evo probably).

Need a new hard drive.
How are SSHD's?
meme or legit?

>>62214078
pointless. firecuda only have a 8gb ssd or 16gb for the 2tb version.

>>62213899
Their business model is shady, but ultimately they just serve as a marketplace for buyers and sellers of keys to do business.

The sellers are small companies from Ukraine, Russia, China etc who use various methods to get a hold on left over keys from stuff like promotions or excess production (example, factory bought 100000 windows keys, only built 80000 pcs, sold the rest on grey market to key sellers).

The reputation of these sites went down because their trade of game keys is more often shadier. Keys have been stolen from retailers, charity sales abused. G2A and Kinguin arent responsible for all of that, but they profit from it indirectly since its being sold on their sites.

I only use these sites for windows keys, rest is not worth it.

>>62213903
Buy parts individually.

>>62213515
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYxJLD

>>62214253
Good build. I'd really try to get an SSD in there, it's worth it.

So apparently Ryzen is garbage for VM's since NPT is broken on KVM and neither AMD nor KVM maintainers want to touch the issue.
I use this quite a bit.

Should I cut my losses and sell my 1700+X370 Gaming 5 and just get a 7820K+X299 Board?

>>62212461
Probably dead. Don't buy shitgate.

>>62214296
>NPT
The nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty?

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>>62214215

That's what I plan on doing, but with prices being what they are you can't get a decent price anywhere.

If prices stay this way or even continue to rise I might as well pull the trigger now, but I'm kind of holding on to the hope that waiting a little longer might actually help.

>>62213983

I guess that's one more reason to wait. I mean, you would think at some point supply is going to catch up with demand and prices come down again, but maybe I'll end up paying 200€ at the end of the year.

Zen2 when?

I JUST WANT SINGLE THREAD PERFORMANCE 7700K AND RYZEN 1800X MULTI THREAD PERFORMANCE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>62214353
2018

>>62214332
Nested Page Tables.
Without it VMs run like garbage, normally with it you get close-to-metal performance.
But it's broken on KVM right now when using Ryzen (and possibly going back to Athlon64)

>>62214367
You can, but you have to pay the big bucks.
I might end up having to pay that due to NPT bug.
Not particularly liking the idea of spending AUD$1400 on another CPU+Board.

AMD/Redhat - fix your shit.

>>62214379
Early or late?

>>62214296
8350 wins again

>>62214579
It definitely wins the power consumption contest, that's for sure.

>>62214310
Yup, it was dead, returned it and got another one in the store, it works so far.

>>62213725
The only thing I might upgrade would be the GPU, but a 1080 will last me some time.

>>62214194
>I only use these sites for windows keys, rest is not worth it.
They are absolutely worth it and beat Steam sale prices before they went to shit.

How long will a 1600x last until it's obsolete? Considering first gen i7 and i5 have only just become extremely outdated in the last 1-2 years gives me hope 1st Gen ryzen will last a while.

GPU tech is gonna leap frog under 7nm anyway hopefully we will go back to cheaper video cards more often sadly because of ram shortages we won't be seeing many >8gb cards

>>62214593
intel X, and 7700k

>>62214635
With an overclock, I would expect you'll be able to drive a mid-level graphics card 4 years from now without a problem.
Just get a 1600 instead of a 1600x though.

>>62214671
1600x already built all it will need is 32gb in the future instead of the 16gb I have now

Already have a 1080

How bad will a Ryzen 1200 bottleneck a 1080ti in 1440p gayming?

>>62214683
You're good for a while.

>>62207766

HGST or you might as well just piss on the drives yourself.

>>62214700
`080ri for 1440p gaming...
not much honestlly. get a 1060 or 1070 instead

>>62208768

No but what are you doing with that speed? Sata 3 is pretty fucking fast unless you are working with large data somehow like video or something. Also Im not sure if it applies to m.2 but the speed gains from pcie were only worth it if you were into large files like 4k video. Large amounts of small files couldn't use most of speed gains.

>>62214722
My last PCs lasted 3 and 4 years each with only memory upgrade and new GPUs every 2 years

>>62210187
>>62210243

This. Adhere something to it and pull it out hours later once somewhat cured. Its a screw? Just be careful pulling it out.

>>62214742
maybe he has a 144Hz screen

>>62214772
you think hed be smart enough to specify it. plus what tard would get a 1200 in a 1080ti 144hz build. the cpu will undoubtedly bottleneck it to hjell

Extreme newfag to /g/, how's this

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/M6FfrH/enthusiast-amd-ryzen-gaming-build

>>62210485

You can pirate windows 8.1 and roll it into legit windows 10 still with the accessibility upgrade. Also if you want to buy you can get it for much cheaper.

When I buy them for offices Ive been using https://softwarelicense4u.com/ lately. Not even trying to you might get keys somewhere else cheaper.

Windows 7 is like 20 8.1 maybe 30 and 10 maybe 40 or something. Remember you can roll 8.1 and 7 into 10 with the accessibility upgrade. Also dont get the home version of 7 or 8.1 it locks out certain networking stuff you might like later. Not sure if 10 home did away with that.

>>62214789
kinda crappy. the gpu will overheat. the ssd is average, especially in size. cooler is kinda overkill

>>62214789
It's alright, but what do you want to do with it? It's probably overkill for most people.

>>62211712

Only thing Ive gotten above that is fps shooters. If you dont play shooters why go higher?

>>62214815
Can't you just clean install 10 and activate it with a 7 or 8.1 key? I think I read that somewhere.

>>62214815
>You can pirate windows 8.1 and roll it into legit windows 10 still with the accessibility upgrade
stop perpetuating lies. it doesnt work

>>62214829
overkill? Honestly I have never really played games on PC but was going to shift more towards that because the xbox I have is eh/10.

>>62214820
Ah ok, I don't know fucking anything (reading through the OP) so it will take me some time to get my bearings on what works with what and what specs/performance to look out for.

>>62214784
>>62214742
Sadly it's a 165Hz monitor, you're saying I can keep a stable 60fps?

I'll wait for another year to update my 3570k rig.

>>62214879
on gpu look for two or more fans

>>62214889
sure. 165hz with a 1200 is impossible for games unless its like csgo or other old shit

>>62214889
1440p@165, you should get something better than a 1200.

>>62214843

As far as Ive read once you get legit 10 going you can reinstall 10 clean and dont even need the key because either its put a keyfile on your uefi or they can spot you from hardware ids.

A little scare about microsoft putting shit in my ueifi for tracking. I cleared all my keys and went vm for windows now.

>>62214844
Its worked for me though I havent done it lately. I never do pirate shit for actually work people pay me for. Just get those cheap keys I mentioned. I did it at home when they were doing the free upgrade without hiding it.

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>tfw actually unbent my pins
I really hope it works.

>>62214913
I apologize, I am super ignorant. What do you mean by "on gpu look for two or more fans"?

Ive got a freenas server in my closet with 8 drives. They have always been at the upper limits of temps I am comfortable with. Anyone got any cases or tricks to get them cooler without making the thing loud as fuck? I dont want to put a server case and fans in there. But I am not sure what else to do.

>>62214950
How'd it get bent in the first place?

>>62214954
Most gpu sellers will have custom versions of the card where these days the only custom thing is the cooler. Look through new egg and youll see better cooling setups on the card. As in multiple fans and heat pipes.

>>62214974
Ah ok, thank you anon I appreciate the advice.

Decent setup or shit setup?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

>>62214998
>no parts list
i'm not watching a brown man talk to a camera about computers.

>>62215024
He describes them in the first few minutes I believe.

>>62215024
the thumbnail shows all the components.

>>62214998
decent.case is overhyped imo

>>62215047
Outside of the case, does it seem like a rig that would perform well w/ gaming etc?

>>62215047
The only things I can make out from that thumbnail are a 1070, a B350 Tomahawk, and some kind of Ryzen. No clue on RAM or the actual CPU.

Whats the verdict on AIOs lately? People have been making a big deal out of the fact that they have a heat sink factor and could seem to be better then they are in short testing but I always looked at the radiators on them as the measure so that didnt matter to me.

>>62215062
well heay. the 1060 is a good card. its no god card but this gen hasnt had one of those yet. Also on that note im still annoyed by the price of gpus

>>62214970
Came out with the fan. I pulled the fan straight up like a retard.

>>62215099
They're unnecessary. A good air cooler will work just as well. If you want one that's cool, but you don't need one.

>>62215103
Sweet, might go with it. Thanks.

>>62215099
louder
prone to leaking
same cooling as top end air coolers
more expensive.
overall shitter

>>62215099
Memes. Get a good air cooler.

>>62215099
They're no better than a good air cooler but have more modes of failure and some of those failure modes allow for destruction of other equipment rather.

Failure modes for air cooler:
- Fans fail
- you pour indium everywhere like a madman

Failure modes for an AIO
- Fans fail
- Pump Fails
- Pump Leaks*
- Hoses Fail*
- Fittings Fail*
- Fittings come loose*
- Radiator forms a leak
- You overtighten screws

If you couldn't give a shit about the above and just want muh aesthetics, get an AIO.

Where's the SATA plug on the Carbon Pro B350?

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I only want to upgrade my GPU right now and I only have 3 working RAM slots on my motherboard so that is why it's 12GB instead of 16GB.

Can I get a GPU recommendation that would balance well with this build? I know my Sandy Bridge chip still has decent horsepower for today's standards.

>>62215236
really...

reight 2 3ths down

>>62215244
The 950 goes pretty well with that build.

Building pc bit by bit, getting the ssd last anyone recomend a live cd to fuck around with for a week while i wait?

>>62215266
Yeah I think so too. A friend of mine said I could still get some reasonable benefit from a modest card from the current generation.

>>62215305
install any distro onto a usb for a week.

>>62215244
The i7 is still pretty good, too bad it's not the k-SKU. At that resolution(assuming max settings), it probably won't bottleneck much anything up to 1070(or Vega 56).

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Thinking about going AM4 with a 1700 CPU, and maybe some new RAM.

Anyone able to suggest a good upgrade path from here? PC mainly used for gaming and Adobe shit.

What reason would someone have for going w/ the Rydex 7 or I-7 processor over the Rydex 5/I-5? I have an I-7 in my basic bitch laptop(asus base model) that doesn't seem to be too fast.

>>62215244
Very solid chip you have there my dude. I'd say go for a GTX 1070 or Vega 56. Looks like you have a 1440p monitor, so that'll work nicely.

>>62215379
needing more performance and cores obviously.

whats the 212 evo of the modern day (cost/ perf god)

>>62215346
>>62215385
I don't run most of my games at 2K I stick to 1080p for the most part. You think a 1070 would do much better on this PC than the 1060? I'd like to run 2K at mostly ultra settings.

>>62215309
I'd get at least a 1060, but that's pretty expensive right now.

This https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814126116
or this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814126110

A question about ram. Let's say I have an 8Gb DDR3 stick running at 1600 and buy a 16 Gb DDR3 running at 1600, will they both run at the same speed if I install the 16Gb?

>>62215439
>I'd like to run 2K at mostly ultra settings.
1070 it is then.

>>62215459
since both are 1600, yes...

>>62215450
First one. Blower cards are shit.

>>62215244
RAM and CPU too outdated.

Get a 1600x and 3200mhz ddr4

Anything over a 1070 will be bottlenecked by that rig especially vega

>>62215477
I have heard that for a card like that you want it to have multiple coolers on it, is that your recommendation too?

>>62215349
Either get a 1800 or 1600x

That pc is fine you really won't notice a difference in games or production applications

How do I test if my PSU works?

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€300 Absolute Destitute Tier build:
>Xeon X3430 4c/4t Overclockable to ~4Ghz
>Asus H55-M 1156 (Can OC the Xeon, has a VRM heatsink)
>2x4GB DDR3 1600
>Cheapest case I could fine with free shipping
>CiT 550W PSU (80 Plus Bronze! and 2x6pin PCIe connectors!)
>Raijintek Aidos CPU cooler (Cheap 212 Evo)
>750GB HDD
>GTX 760 2GB

All in all comes in at €295 with shipping. I'll be spacing out the aliexpress orders so that I'll only be paying customs on the mobo if I have to.

Can I do any better? 4x2GB sticks will save a few bucks but I'd doubt it's worth it. Also not looking to get into a bidding war on eBay.

(I'll probably get an SSD for it too, but it's not a part of the budget)

>>62215509
Plug it into a wall? Derp.

>>62215509
stick a paperclip in it

>>62215524
why does aliexpress sell old computer shit?

>>62214820
how would the gpu overheat if the cooler is overkill? Any recommendations on an SSD to replace the one listed?

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i need new ddr3 ram. the cheapest stuf near me is kingston value ram but its thin as fuck. why is this?

>>62215558
cpu cooler is overkill you retard.

>>62215349
I wouldn't bother sinking money into another Skylake/Kaby Lake processor. The best you could get is what, an i7? Which is literally the same shit you have now but with hyperthreading? Gay shit. And, if you were to go for an i7, that'd be the end of the line. No other options. Doesn't sound worth it to me.

Go for AM4 my dude. There'll be at least 3-4 more generations of AMD chips on the AM4 socket, probably even more, so you'll have a solid upgrade path. No dead 1-2 gen Intel sockets lmao. If you want to save some cash, you could go for the R3 1300X and a B350 motherboard. Just upgrade to some other Ryzen or AM4 compatible chip down the line when you need more power/more threads.

You'll be needing higher frequency RAM though. Either buy a new kit or take your hand at attempting to overclock what you have now. Current gen Ryzen chips love higher RAM clocks, so the higher the better. 2666MHz is bare minimum you'd want, with 3200MHz being the ideal clock speed.

>>62215509
As in failing?

If you get gpu down clocking and voltage drop on 12v rail it's fucked.

>>62215468
I can always migrate the card into a new build later down the line I guess, I might as well get the 1070. Thanks.

>>62215524
Strech it to 32gb ram lower speed with a bunch of 8gb sticks and a 8 thread if u want future proof.

As of now that was outdated 6 years ago

>>62215582
Sorry I am absolutely retarded when it comes to building pcs and the parts needed hence why I ask

So my PC turns on, all the fans and meme LEDs turn on, but I'm not getting any output to the monitor. I'm on Ryzen so I have to use my GPU for output, how do I know if it's the problem?

>>62215499
Yeah sure. The real problem isn't just the number of fans, but how they work. A 1060 will function just fine with just the one fan, with a nice cooler, and not in blower.

>>62211587
B-but this is an ASUS board, never have I seen ASUS make a meme board of this kind, unlike the shittier ASRock and Biostar boards, I have high hopes for this board.

>>62211623
You can crack hashes, train deep learning algorithms, fold proteins, etc

>>62211704
Well, sometimes the board needs more power when you have that many connections, or you want your PSUs to all turn on at once. The alternative and norm for mobos with a higher amount of PCIE connector is having 4pin connectors so it can draw power from the psu, this is actually much better

>>62215550
>why does aliexpress sell old computer shit?
It's mostly old server stuff of things that were returned. So usually parts with thousands of hours on them.

>>62215728
1st give it a while. I think first time I started my ryzen built it took about 2 mins to finally boot. I also thought something was broken
2nd Make sure your monitor is connected to gpu.
3rd. Try disconnecting everything that's not needed and try again.

>>62215728
do the gpu fans turn on too?

shall i get a gtx 1080 now or will the price decrease in the near future? Living in Germany

and MSI, Gigabyte G1 or Gainward Phoenix?

>>62215791
Not in the near future no. There are some good deals to be had from time to time.

About to buy my first high-end GPU
1080 or ti?
And no I'm not buying vega.

How many gens to go back on the i5? Is 3rd gen still reasonable or am I losing too much performance?

>>62215823
if you have the money: titan xp, then ti, then "normal" 1080

>>62215641
I def can't afford 32GB of RAM, but I have the option to upgrade to 16GB should I need to with 2x4GB. The 8 thread x3440 costs around €30, which is fine but I might get jew'd by customs, adding another ~€20 to the price. I'm on a strict budget here.

>>62208639
most of steam users are dual core owners, meaning kiddies playing on laptops or absolute piece of shit desktops

>>62215524
Dunno where you live, but I put together this part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dkvyM8
Brand new shit quality shit that is equal to or better than what you picked out (minus RAM).

>CPU: AMD - FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
>Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard
>Memory: Patriot - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
>Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 460 2GB Dual OC Video Card
>Case: Deepcool - SMARTER MicroATX Mini Tower Case
>Power Supply: EVGA - 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
>Total: £284.90

Didn't check shipping prices, but I'd imagine it'd still be just about £300

>>62215842
Buy more used components then

Scour swap and sale forums as well as groups etc

>>62215506
>Recommending 1800x or 1600x

Why. Those have no reason to exist when 1700 does the exact same as 1800x at lower price point and non-X 1600 is the same way.

>>62215823
>>62215838
Go for the 1080 Ti.

Titan Xp is a meme and isn't worth the price. Vega 64 is also a fucking meme when it comes to gaming and isn't worth the price. Vega 56 is at 1070 level and is only worth it at or below MSRP.

>>62215777
>>62215784
I got it to boot, life is great.

>>62215887
Up to you anything from the 1600-threadripper is goat u can't go wrong

>>62215866
Ireland, Amazon UK are the only one that ship to Ireland for free, the rest often have too high a shipping cost (particularly for heavy items like cases and PSU's)

>>62215869
I've tried but I live in a remote area where the pickings are slim.

GTX 1080:
MSI Gaming X, Gigabyte G1, Gainward Phoenix or Zotac AMP extreme - or a complete other card?

>>62215946
Mmmm.

Buy a old used govt PC with a i7 or i5 in it and go from there

Better to buy a complete system that's going to work

Tonnes of used or ex workstation stuff out there usually cheaper than separate components as well

>>62215965
1080 if it's cheap or 1080ti if u want future proof

Volta is a long way off and prices are gonna jump through the roof due to ram shortages

Let's take a survey
http://poal.me/uln6nx
Using poal.me so you can add your own answers.

>>62215946
Determined as fuck to make this work for you.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FQ7NM8
>CPU: AMD - Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
>Motherboard: Asus - A68HM-K Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
>Memory: *Patriot - Signature 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£44.49 @ Amazon UK)
>Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
>Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 460 2GB Dual OC Video Card (£76.00 @ Amazon UK)
>Case: Zalman - ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
>Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.54 @ Amazon UK)
>Total: £300.94

>>62216071
a pound sterling is still worth more than a euro, for now

>>62216012
Volta is rumored for a 2018 release. Not that far off.

Is the 1080 worth the 70 more dollars over the 1070?

>>62216174
yes

>>62215983
I've seen some old Dell boxes with i5-2400's and i5-3470s for ~€150, but they have a shitty non ATX standard PSU.

>>62216071
Thanks for trying. The RX460 seems like a pretty good deal, so I might it up and get an old Dell box and hope the PSU can cope with it.

how's this
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FD2s2R
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FD2s2R/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($112.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($147.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($144.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($554.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1572.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-02 11:27 EDT-0400

>>62214831
Because no matter what game it is, higher framerates feel better. Even Civ V is better at 100Hz.

>>62216288
Not the greatest.
Here's a better list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZfTLD

>>62216288
I'd get one more fan for the S340. It comes with a couple mounted as exhaust; put one of those as intake in the front, and another one, and you've got a nice positive pressure going (which is good since the front intake is filtered).
Honestly I'd just get the 1700. The cooler it comes with can stand a moderate overclock, and once overclocked the 1700 and 1700X have the same performance. Plus you can always add a better cooler to get those last few MHz out of it just like you can the X.

Other than that everything looks good. I'm assuming you have a HDD you're reusing from a previous build? Or are you going with just an SSD?
If you're into the looks of the build, you could spend a little more for the M.2 version of the SSD, which would remove a couple cables.

>>62213101
I'll leave myself a shameful bump.

>>62216369
why do you recommend this?

>>62216377
Thanks for the fan and 107p advice, might try that then. I don't have an hdd should I grab one as well?

>>62216369
and when I say

>>62216410
I am not trying to insult you I am simply new at picking out parts and the earlier post was my first attempt at it. I appreciate any and all advice.

>>62216410
>I don't have an hdd should I grab one as well?
Depends on what you do with your computer. If you like to download movies or shows and keep them, have thousands of photos or things like that, 500GB can be a little tight. If you think you'll be fine with 500GB no need to get more.
You can always buy one later and pop it in in 5 minutes.

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Using my previous cpu fan as a second fan on my new cooler. Is this a good idea? What could go wrong? Sorry for the dust and that the pic is sideways

>>62216444
ok cheers ty

>>62216535
Clean it before using it, and make sure they're in push-pull and not pushing one against the other.
Where will you be driving the second fan from?

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