SHINTEL IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

Really, after all this time, AMD kind of deserve a win, they really delivered with Ryzen.

Now if only they can get the GPU division in line.

>>62203170
>I don't understand market share.

>>62203231
The only thing AMD delivered was a turd, Shill.

>>62203270
2 pin badges were delivered to your home goy.
Thanks to help us leap ahead!

>>62203170
PC build begins good market but money comes from OEM,Laptop,Server and workstations.

AMD need APU ryzen + vega

>>62203290
Ryzen is shit for games, and shit for vms (both windows, and linux). AMD's marketing has always been god tier though, so people gleefully ignore the deficiencies while pretending that they have a future proof cpu.

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>>62203315
Got any numbers to back that up?
because nVidia sure as fuck disagrees with you

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>>62203357
Yeah right, tiny company with small budgets will be able to deceive the public through viral shilling and astroturfing, as opposed to the 10x bigger company with deep pockets.

Do you also buy bridges and swamp land?

>>62203170
Source?

>>62203419
Server CPUs are a different beast. They're a lot of money. AMD's server CPUs are crazy better than intel's offerings.

>>62203170
>Shintel
What the fuck are you even going for here?

>>62203231
>Now if only they can get the GPU division in line.
The hardware dudes are fine.
They need more code monkeys.
Like, MORE.

What's up with all the "no vega cards out there"
I bought my 64 day one here in sweden they has plenty that day 8D

>>62203910
To answer myself, seems it is data from MindFactory: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6xg3oe/wow_what_a_month_amd_finally_overtook_intel_cpu/

Although got to take into account that Intel probably sells more old skylake/haswell platforms than AMD does FM2+/AM3+ ones.

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They actually beat Intel sales even in total revenue, which is a feat when Intel's most popular CPU i 7700K and AMD's is just R5 1600.

I also like that in the weak Q2 months, Intel wend down much more than Ryzens.

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And R5 1600 is now the most popular CPU in that store.

>>62203892
>Yeah right, tiny company with small budgets will be able to deceive the public through viral shilling and astroturfing
The fuck have you been fag? They use that small budget to shitpost.

>>62203170
DELID DIS

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>>62205732
Riiiiight

>>62203934
Holy shit WRONG WRONG WRONG

>>62203357
MUH GAYIMINGGGGGGG

>>62203170
>there are people that bought the i5 7650k
so this is the power of intel...

>>62206981
7640x*

>>62203170
But where are the i3s? Or anything lower. Amds side goes down to r3 1200.

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>>62206938
The funny thing is, that the gaming performance of Kaby Lake wasn't really being brought up that much after its launch in january, when people were generally >meh about it.

Only after it turned out that higher FPS in actually CPU-limited gaming is the bright point in its otherwise inferior value proposition (when comparing 4c8t to 6c12t and particularly 8c16t Ryzens), only then did i7-7700K start to be stressed as "the ultimate gaming CPU". Reviews from january hardly called it that, it was just considered minor Skylake speedbump.

Before Ryzen launched, there generally was a "CPU doesn't matter that much, invest in GPU" thinking in gaming PCs circles.
But then there was need to find something where Core i7s beat Ryzens, so suddenly the FPS in games in low resolution tests got uber-important, despite the fact that in practice you are almost always GPU-limited when actually gaming.

>>62207255
https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Prozessoren+(CPU)/INTEL+Desktop/Sockel+1151.html

Besides 7100, it seems i3 sales are negligible, thanks to the Pentium (which is outside of the range that Ryzens cover).

>>62203270
>MUH GAAAAAAAAAMES
go back to /v/

>>62203170
where is pentium and FX sales?

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>brand loyalty in 2017

>>62203419
>All companies make profits from the same sources
>>62206754
>FAKE NEWS
RMA your life

>>62203270
>>62203357
>>62205732
>muh 7700k
>muh ESXi which has been patched since 1.0.0.6

Oy vey, I wonder who could be behind this

>>62206754
Ten cents of
solder has been deposited into your SOPA DE MOCACA account.
Thank you for defending Intel™ online!

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>>62207950
>muh gaming

fuck off

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>implying that the CPU will EVER be a bottleneck for much gaymen in 2017
Intel shills and /v/tards are THIS retarded

1600x s equivalent to a 7700k yeah?

Lel the AMD is half the price

>>62208099
>240hz monitors exist
>b-but there's no c-cpu bottleneck
k

>>62208122
moar cores

>>62208122
>get 240Hz monitor
>somehow that makes my GPU go faster and my CPU is now the bottleneck
wow

>>62208167
gl getting 240fps on inferno or nuke with ryzen then m8

so the real question is how much better will coffee lake be since it has 6 coars

>>62208219
Good look playing at fucking 640x480.

>>62208282
Are you just pretending to be retarded? I get 300fps easily with a fucking 680.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=csgo+1080+ti

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>>62203357
Fuck off, shill. With fast ram Ryzen literally ties an OC'd 7700k in games.

>>62204033
Fucking tell me about it. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU RELEASE A GPU WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE NOT WORKING YET?!?! Jesus fucking Christ.

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>>62203357
>ryzen is shit for games

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>>62203170
This is delightful news. It would be sad if AMD came out with a compelling product only to have it sell poorly due to Intel's marketing and mindshare advantage (the reason why processors like the i5 7500 get any sales at all).

>>62208547
Those games get more fps on dx11 for amd, and intel, but it looks closer when you choose to use dx12 instead.

Muh ryzen has so many cores you would think that it was actually decent for vm use.
Tfw can't into gpu passthrough, and
10 year old npt bug still affects ryzen. Oy vey, and amdshillfags have ro do some serious gymnastics just to seem not as horrible in games.

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yum yum

>>62208024
Quick rundown on the virtualization thing? I got a 1700 instead of 7700k for virtualizatipn

>>62203357
1 0 0 0 W
0
0
0
W
oh its a comming

>>62210117
>oh its a comming
The only thing coming is the quick onsoletion of your ryzen. More bugs, and no improvements. This is ypur future proofing.

What was AMD's official response to the npt bug?

>>62203170
You are missing a few dozen processors on your graph buddy.

>>62210139
>onsoletion
>ypur
how many layers of damage control are you on right now?

>>62210169
>tripfag
>wants to include pentium 4 and athlon
like clockwork

>>62203357
I don't run vm's anyway

For gaming and multitasking ryzen a goat.if you want good vm and server tier shit go get a eypc

Dat amd trustzoned psp tho.
Thanks based AMD for putting israel to work.

>>62203170

where are the pentiums and celerons?

Also AMD ships with PS4 and Xbone

>>62210207
>I don't run vm's anyway
ryzen in a nutshell
>For gaming and multitasking ryzen a okayish if you play certain games with a certain api under a certain resolution with a gpu bottleneck.
>if you want good vm and server tier shit go get a eypc
Just give up on vms with ryzen. Just wait for the next gen of abortions.

>>62210279
What happened to running VMs on ryzen?

>>62210194
There are literally like more than 50 processors that they are still fabricating and selling in mobile that aren't listed on that graph kid.

And thats NOT including the celerons.

Npt bug? Official response from amd? Can someone link it?

>>62210298
This graph is obviously talking about desktop processors. Is it that hard to understand?

>>62210316
Its still missing dozens.

The Intel lineup is intentionally shortened to make it look like AMD sells a similar amount of processors.

>>62208306
Playing CS:GO is for literal retards

>>62203170
Who are these legitimately deranged faggots buying i3s and i5s at this point?

I bought ryzen because I'm not a gamer. I'm a semi professional content creator who streams ashes of the singularity, doom, and tomb raider. I also prefer to play other games on dx12 on a 4k display even though they may from dx11 more. I need the cores to run handbrake whether, or not thete are better options available to me. I don't know I just really fucking like handbrake. Also I don't use vms, because I'm not a gamefag. I actually use my pc for productivity, and fuck adobe products since I just don't use them out of principal.

>>62203170
>Skylake x still outsold threadripper.
Bribing? locked feature? or people really that dumb?

>>62203170
the fact that someone bought 7900x and 7820x is scare
fucking terrorist walks among us

>>62208058
i guess a 4c is so good for productivity

>>62210773
They were probably real pros, and not >>>/r/ayyyyymd prosumer larpers that actually just play low end games all day on single player with settings turned way down.

>>62207262
Except Simulators, like ARMA or Microsoft Flight etc.

>>62210241
This plus custom APUs for scientists.

What the fuck is this "npt bug"? Can someone explain, please!?

>>62204367
>Reddit
Uhm sorry honey I ain't clicking that.

>>62204033
No, they just need decent coders, not monkeys.
If everyone was John Bridgman AMD would be saved, but instead the current efforts are largely led by poo-in-loos that care very little about what they're coding.

>>62203419
We're talking CPU's here dumb /v/edditor

>>62208265
More cores, MORE NIGGAHERTZ NORE WATS MORE HOUSE FIRE

>>62209988
>Tfw can't into gpu passthrough, and
But it can, I'm literally using it right now
IOMMU was fixed a few months ago by an AGESA update
>10 year old npt bug still affects ryzen.
NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update

>>62210380
12 year old gaymur kiddies and clueless normalfags who don't know any better.

>>62210989
So it's going to be an intel cpu with more cores? About fucking time. Thanks based amd for lighting a fire under intel's ass.

>>62210380
Intel still carries a metric fuckton of brand recognition, even though it's eroding away incredibly fast

>>62210298
>Intel shill extraordinaire comes right out with it.
How much do they pay you?

>>62211003
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
What is it, and which agesa update fixed it?

>>62210773
Fanboyism and gaems
No one but rich kids on /v/ buys HEDT chips

>r9
I've been out of the loop, can someone give me the quick rundown on this? Like are they good for enthusiasts who enjoy doing parallel computation?

>>62210826
Better than a 2 core with 4 threads.

>>62211011
Pretty much. Everything else is the same bullshit though - almost all CPUs locked, having to buy new chipset/socket, shitty thermals, no HT on i5 etc.
Expect to see "techtubers"/reviewers OC the 6 core i7 to housefire clocks speeds (5GHz+) on a closed loop and then advertise it as an "easily achievable overclock" that you should do if you get an unlocked part (and obviously only benchmark with that to shill for Intel).

>>62211003
>But it can, I'm literally using it right now
IOMMU was fixed a few months ago by an AGESA update
Do you use full pcie bandwidth, because ryzens are slim with the pcie lanes.
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
If all else fail just flat out lie (it's the amd way).

>>62211061
They're amazing multithreaded CPUs. Check that whatever you're doing works well with more cores.

>>62211075
I'll probably be in the market for a cpu when these, or the next gen.intel cpus release.

>>62211099
Thanks. I'm a computational scientist so yes.

>>62211075
>housefire clocks speeds (5GHz+)
Sounds like you're just salty AMD can't clock over 4GHz without using 200+watts on Ryzen 7 and 500+ watts of Threadrippah.

>>62210853
People seriously playing games using 16 cores 64 lanes processor? did i just time travel in my sleep?

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>>62211120
>Sounds like you're just salty AMD can't clock over 4GHz without using 200+watts on Ryzen 7 and 500+ watts of Threadrippah.
Straight up lies
4.1 Ghz on R7 does 140W
4.2 Ghz on TR indeed does 250W
Keep lying dumb poojeet, Intel will reward you with those Starbucks gift cards
If you want housefire clocks wait for IBM's nazi 7nm process with 5+ GHz base clockspeeds next year

>>62211083
>Do you use full pcie bandwidth, because ryzens are slim with the pcie lanes.
But anon, Ryzen's have more PCIe lanes that any Intel SKU below SKL-X
>If all else fail just flat out lie (it's the amd way).
Yeah, sure I will believe you when you're straight up lying about one of the best known features of Ryzen chips

>>62211161
They like shut off cores/threads, and certain features when doing most tasks.

>>62211172
>4.1 Ghz on R7 does 140W
Lies unless you've got some golden sample.
90% of chips will need 1.45v to get to 4.0ghz which is awfully close to 200w on Ryzen 7.
I honestly pulled the Threadrippah figures from my ass based on the R7 numbers though.

>>62211192
>But anon, Ryzen's have more PCIe lanes that any Intel SKU below SKL-X
Don't lie. How many lanes are actually useable pcie 3.0 lanes?
>Yeah, sure I will believe you when you're straight up lying about one of the best known features of Ryzen chips
Which agesa update fixed the npt bug again? You did say that it was fixed with an agesa update right? Which one was that again my trusteorthy frien?

>>62211003
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
Which update fren? And which update will fixe the next slurry of bugs that AMD keeps a secret?

>>62211200
>Lies unless you've got some golden sample.
No, plenty of 1700's can do 4 GHz at less than 150W, under normal loads a 4.1 Ghz OC'd 1800X will do less than 140W peaking at 170W on torture tests
>90% of chips will need 1.45v to get to 4.0ghz which is awfully close to 200w on Ryzen 7.
Another figure pulled out of your ass
1700's do need almost 1.4 V to do 4 GHz, with absolute shit samples needing up to 1.45V, 1800X's fare slightly bette
>I honestly pulled the Threadrippah figures from my ass based on the R7 numbers though.
Thrice the power consumption for just twice the cores?
AMD is not Intel anon, really shows how little about the subject you know

>>62211113
You could also look at the EPYC server chips which are even more impressive.

>>62211314
You're still super salty, is being proved wrong hurting your shillbux?
Does Lisa only pay per convert?

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>>62211342
>buttblasted poojeet
your not getting paid :^)

>>62208547
Those benchmarks are not real world.
That guy used suicide timings and managed to run his ddr4 faster than anyone else.
Noone else can run past 3200mhz
Most are stuck at 3000 or less

>>62211356
I do it for 'free' Arjun.

Damn.
TFW I fell for amdposter memes.
>nvidia is a shit
>novideo is a shit drivers
>cuda is a dead
>novideo makes you give facebook for drivers
>intel a shit
>intel is useless for productivity
>inyel a shit for linux
Too many to list, but I recently bought intel/mvidia, and it wasn't bad at all.
Compatible with all the softewate that I couldn't use before, and not bad with the games at all. Linux, and bsd installs without issues, and etc.
Thanks amd I learned a valuable lesson.

>>62211413
Is this the Intel shill's final form?

>>62203231
Vega is actually much better than Nvidia at compute, things like rendering and data processing, it has a very high floating point power and the HBM2 makes it perfect for machine learning.

It's pretty clear it was built with server compute and professional workloads in mind.

Even the Vega 56 performs like 30% better than the 1080Ti in Blender tests.

There's a lot of money in these fields.

>>62211418
Not even buddy, not even.

>>62211418
>Is this the Intel shill's final form
You mean being able to gamr, and use indudtry standard software without problems? Then sure it's intel+nvidia does feel a lot like turning into gojeta/vegeto for the first time, but keep up the good work kid some people do beleive your bullshit.

>>62211391
>more lies
3200 has been common with any decent quality kit rated for it since a few months ago, tons of BIOS updates have made RAM high clocks and tight timings much easier to reach and quite more stable
Though 3600 is a golden sample and/or a suicide run
>>62211413
>Compatible with all the softewate that I couldn't use before, and not bad with the games at all. Linux, and bsd installs without issues, and etc.
So you don't even use Linux nor BSD, since you can't run any recent Nvidia card without the proprietary blobs (even if you use Nouveau you still need the signed proprietary firmware). which means the vast majority of Linux distros and BSD's won't install without manual tinkering

>>62211422
>It's pretty clear it was built with server compute and professional workloads in mind.
This is backpeddling and trying to save face by amdfags.

Vega is good hardware and was equally built for render - but the drivers suck due to suckass poojeeets shitass software.
Fire the entire Indian team, all of them (Raja works at Markham, so he'd be alright) and replace them with talented coders in US and Canada.
Boom problem solved.

>>62211455
>Nvidia made drivers are pretty good. I like using cuda for waifu 2x upscaling, and a few forensic software, shit even remuxing blurays is fast as fuck with cuda enabled.

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>>62211454
>You mean being able to gamr, and use indudtry standard software without problems?

wow that's a high bar

>>62211200
Thing you need to uderstand, goy, is that the LPP used by the Ryzen fabbers is what keeps it from getting past 4GHz reliably, but since they used LPP, the power efficiency is great until you start clocking it to levels it was never designed to run at.

That's shown on every overclock past 4GHz, those diminishing returns are quite clear, but there is more than enough performance to go around below the 4.1GHz mark, and Zen+/Zen2 will use a difference process.

But you can stay mad as hell, goy, because AMD just pulled a hat-trick and Intel just realised they had not planned for this.

>>62211497
>difference
different

>>62211472
>Fire the entire Indian team, all of them (Raja works at Markham, so he'd be alright) and replace them with talented coders in US and Canada.
This is harder than you think
People who can write decent drivers are incredibly rare and where hired by Nvidia, Apple or Qualcomm long ago
>>62211480
>waifu2x
So pure placebo oil filters? You know it is a straight up copy of NNEDI3 with neurons jacked into infinity and that the OpenCL version of NNEDI3 it's way faster on AMD than Nvidia, right?
>a few forensic software
Which you can be pretty sure exists in OpenCL form
>shit even remuxing blurays is fast as fuck with cuda enabled.
Why the fuck would you need a GPU to remux shit? It's literally just copying stuff
If you mean encoding why the fuck are you using some shitty GPGPU accelerated encoder which looks like pure shit? If you need speed NVENC/VCE/Quicksync it's way faster and looks equally bad, if you need quality you just use x264/libvpx/x265

Heh kids. Poo-n-loo janny is on the clock. Don't >>>/trash/talk amd guise. It's bad for shilling.

>>62208122
What if I want to play at 4K, or even 1440P? Name one modern game that will run much over 60 fps on 4K even with a 1080Ti.

GPU is always the bottleneck unless you are playing some shitty old game at low resolutions where your GPU can easily handle it.

>>62211497
>peak madness

Alright less trolling more serious for a second,
Ryzen pretty muck sucks on 14LPP, it's certainly better than their previous garbage and is clock-for-clock competitive with Intel especially at the prices they're sold for.
But Intel has a 1-1.2ghz clock advantage (5.0ghz is possible on essentially all 7700k - delidded of course (which is fucking retarded, Intel should be massacred for that solder garbage but everyone eats up the micro-cracks bullshit) at reasonable voltages) right now.

AM4 is a winner though because even if Ryzen on 14LPP is a bit sucky compared to the competition all things except price considered, GloFlo/Samshit are targeting 5ghz for 7nm, and AMD intends to keep using the platforms until 2020.

It's why I have a 1700 in the next room.

>>62208560
It'd so revolutionary even they don't know how it works.

>>62211535
Hire them from Apple then.
Apple treats employees like garbage.

Papermaster could help that along too...

>>62211535
>So pure placebo oil filters? You know it is a straight up copy of NNEDI3 with neurons jacked into infinity and that the OpenCL version of NNEDI3 it's way faster on AMD than Nvidia, right?
Sure it is kid. So the opencl placebo.is faster on linux? This damage control is ironic, and filled with bullshit in the same post.
>Why the fuck would you need a GPU to remux shit? It's literally just copying stuff
You can copy stuff faster now grandpa. You can do this with amd app, but that's slow, and almost useless.
>Use this shit
Nah I'd rather remux a bluray in a minute, or two.

>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
WHICH AGESSA UPDATE FIXED THE NPT BUG? PLS RESPOND.

>>62211003
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
Pls respond! WHICH UPDATE WAS THIS?
NOTICE ME SEMPAIIIIII!!!!!

>>62211472
Oh, there is driver issues too, and yeah they need to hire a better or bigger software team. But the hardware is definitely designed to be paired with Epyc, look up the Instinct cards.

>AMDfag still won't answer the NPT question
Which AGESA update fixes the NPT bug?
It's 1.0.0.6, because it's still there...

>>62211565
Yeah I don't get why the fuck anyone would even go Intel these days. Another new motherboard for Coffee Lake when Kaby Lake isn't even a year old?

Jesus Christ, how do people let themselves be fucked in the ass so hard?

>>62211003
>NPT bug was fixed recently by another AGESA update
Which update?

>>62211747
we get it

>>62211787
It wasn't fixed then?
Did you lie?

>>62211796
not that guy retard

>>62211314
first ryzens(pre 17xx production number) was hitting 280-300w at ease on 4.1ghz
the ones after may (production number 17xx) are getting 4.1ghz on 1.376 on all the range(from 7 to 3) they are the same step as threadripper (b1) their power dont go above 200 till you push it via phase cooling or ln2

>>62212148
I hope my 1700 gets the compile fail so I can RMA it.

>>62209899
Well, don't celebrate too much. It is nice to do good in retail/DIY, but that market is small.
Unless they sell big into OEM channel, their overall market share and revenue (income) will hardly increase from just retail market, I'm afraid.

>>62210971
So here's non-reddit link for retards: https://imgur.com/a/O2O5C#JhUf0ys

(The imgur posting should be the original, reddit links to tit)

>>62211225
Not him, but:
Ryzen has PCIE 3.0 x16 (x8/x8) for GPU and x4 for M.2 SSD.
LGA 1151 only has x16, SSD connects to chipset.

So, Ryzen has more, retard? You probably count those "MUH 24 LINES" from chipset, but dude, those are all multiplexed over single x4 link that is shared with SSD, network, HDD, USB bandwidth so they get really low throughput in reality. Also those 24 lines double as PHYs for USB and SATA ports, so in reality there is probably just 6-8 left on a motherboard, just like on AMD chipset (where it is just PCIe 2.0 but it hardly matters, because they gut the same PCIe 3.0 x4 uplink as on Intel, but not consumed by SSD which connects to CPU, so in the end, you probably get better performance).

Have a nice weekend, my boy.

>>62214087
Based on the EPYC launch, I think OEMs will be happy to use Ryzen in their lineup.

>>62203170
R5 1600 IS GROWING STRONGER

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>>62207822

>>62203231
>Ryzen
>good
Pick one.

>>62215070
>Intel
>good
Pick one.

>>62211595
>>62211610
>>62211637
>>62211747
>>62211796
Autism much ?

>>62208058
>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>*NEW* Locked platform features don't matter!
>*NEW* Synthetic loads don't matter!
>*NEW* Burnt pins don't matter!

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>>62214817
They are conservative, Intel gives them huge discounts and support plus brand, inertia, business orders mentality, etc. It won't be easy for AMD to capture marketshare there, sadly.

They have some traction, but currently they mostly just maintain the business they managed to catch with previous APUs, nothing really massive. Hopefully they will get more lucky with Raven Ridge.

Some wins in this recent PR, but it's just modest bits IMHO: http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/ryzen-pro-desktop-2017aug31.aspx

If only amd gpus were so good.

>>62203170

Not really

Intel is hardly finished. They just got complacent and relied too much on their fab tech to overcome the difficulties in making massive monolith chips.

Intel is already moving away from that paradigm. It just take years to product come from drawing board into production.

Intel has mainstream and portable markets firmly in their grasp unless Ryzen Mobile utterly crushes Kaby Lake and Cannonlake at power efficiency and cost while yielding enough performance to satiate the normies. OEM only care about bottom line costs and if you deliver enough product.

>>62215150
>AMD
>good
Pick one.

>>62215657

This isn't the early 1990s-2000s anymore.

AMD already has proven themselves to be robust enterprise platform with the Opteron family back in the day. They don't have the stigma of K5-K6 days to overcome.

PHB only care about bottom-line costs. If Epyc systems are cheaper are just as fast if not faster then Intel solutions. They will jump ship in a heartbeat.

That is what Intel is really worried about. They can't make enough massive chips since the yield are so shitty in order to meet demand. Intel's shareholders are preventing Intel from cutting into their massive profit margins they had enjoy since Sandy-Bridge-E era.

>>62216084
>Intel
>good
Pick one.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3221332/computers/amds-ryzen-threadripper-1900x-cpu-launches.html

>>62215402
kys pasta shill

>>62216870
t. intel shill

>>62216303
What I was talking about:
http://store.hp.com/us/en/mlp/desktops/elitedesk--prodesk---workstations?jumpid=cp_r11400_us/en/ips/business_desktops/elite/viewall

For example HP even sells AMD-based business PCs, yay! But it is just one line (Elite 705) out of many, just look at that page. And it is not at the frontpage, you need to click "view all desktops".
So it likely only gets bought by fraction of customers compared to all the Intel-based models.

>>62211342
Not him but you are being made to look a right cunt.

My 1700x gets up to 3.8Ghz stable on a 1.32v, I never took it further than that for longevity reasons and not knowing at the time what the max v core would be.
Hwmonitor states 120w under max stress on aida, so take what you will from it, but 250w is total shit asspull

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intel is fucking ded
ded

>>62217713
What the fuck is up with that filename?

>>62217804
retarded pajeet copied an image URL into his winblows filepicker

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>>62218295
I don't think it results in an image name like that, but it's easy to test. Let's have a look.

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>>62218295