/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>62192318
Reminder:

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>build quality

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Post your headphones anons

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Anon trash here.
What's your setup like, Idol?

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>>62192369
I fucked my post up just a little.

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>>62192353
Random cool stuff. I would like to try the dragonfly thing and your amp just for the sake of it.

>>62192381
>anon trash

lel non anime fags would probably agree

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>>62192393
Fulla 2 works well on dragonfly BSD, if that's what you mean.
snd_uaudio(4)

>>62192393
I'm going to be ordering your headphones and the he400i I believe in about 4 weeks for an AB, returning one, and getting an IEM or the ath-msr7.
I just have to hear vocals on an hd600 before I die.
The FX audio dac x6 is a steal because it actually has some output power unlike most other shit and as far as I can tell is transparent. I would have bought a magni but I had $70 that week and not $100.
Dragonfly is lack luster but I guess it's good for sensitive shit like my XBA-H1 and soon to be msr7.
Magni looks much nicer imo.

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:^)

>>62192353
Listening to Elears today. Audezes are too affected by pillows.

Where's your PC, anon?

>>62192440
No HD600 in the picture :(

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>>62192458
Pic

>>62192440
>:^)
A cute!

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>>62192440
Fuck. I want to hear your IEMs. I like my Sonys a lot because even though they're a bit muddy the bass is really GOOD. It's tight as fuck. You can really appreciate the BA and DD working together but I imagine shit like those heir's are in another league compared to all my headphones.
>>62192458
It's in the top left corner. Pic is before i got my x6

>>62192471
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK
that maki amp
fug
Should I go into debt for a laser engraved maki amp?

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>>62192471
Maki a cute. A cute!!

>>62192479
Best way to use textbooks desu, fuck college
>>62192495
Well you shouldn't go into debt for it, but otherwise fuck yeah. Also sounds exactly like it should.

>>62192518
I wonder what it would feel like to feel the insides of her thighs gently brushing against your ears.
>>62192521
Those monitor stands cost more than my headphones and gpu put together.

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>>62192548
HD600. But it's umi instead :)
Idol trash going out to get a pizza.

>>62192570
Take some pics and post with headphones

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>>62192440
B-But the muddiness makes it sound flat!

>>62192602
Satania a cute. A cute!!

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reminder that HD600 boosts the vocals so autists can understand lyrics better.

>>62192707

you fucking faggot you stole my meme

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>>62192729
>cant understand the language
>boosting the vocals

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>You don't own AIO speaker headphones
Why even live?

>>62192774
These retarded memes are so cheap I might actually buy them for the keks. Should I send them to tyll first so he can make some measurements?

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are these the best iem's bang for buck?
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-ErgoFit-Headphones-Controller-RP-TCM125-K/dp/B00E4LGVUO?th=1

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>>62192803
Would he?

>>62192834
yes
>>62192774
send them to zeos with a note that says "here's a gift from /hpg/, we picked out a headphone based on your taste"

>>62192857
>zeos review
>"THESE ARE THE BEST IVE HEARD FOR THE PRICE. THE HIGHS ARE HIGH."

Lectures on psychoacoustics and other things.

>Floyd Toole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrpUDuUtxPM
Focus mostly on loudspeakers and room acoustic.
>James D. (JJ) Johnston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_LN7qUiTpo
Focuses mostly on signal processing, distortion, and lossy codecs

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>>62192834
We will see.

>>62192857
But are we ready for Zeos?

>>62192907
tile don't have time for that shit

>>62192907
Oh anon, if you convince him to take it, i'd love you forever

hi /g/
I have a question for audio experts, so I thought I'd try posting here

I have a really really crappy phone. The audio output of that thing is straight garbage and makes it completely useless to listen to music in my car. I want to spend ~$30 bucks to solve this problem. Is there something I can buy on Amazon? A headphone amp or a cheap mp3 player?

>>62192735
Car has aux-in. Phone is a Nexus 4, so I just use a male to male cable.

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>>62192918
can we even handle tyll?

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Idol trash waits for pizza @ pizzeria.

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>>62192939
Maybe

>>62192729
>No audio cable
Obvious fake.

Anyone aside from tripfag have anything to say in regards to the heir audio 4,ai? I've been watching reviews and I'm interested, they seem wonderful

>>62192981
I have Z's address I just personally hate sending unsolicited mail

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Are the Koss Pro-4AA's any good? Ive got a Sony MDR-7506 but I wanted to branch out a bit more

>>62193027
They're complete garbage.

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The lord thy god in heaven hath given me his blessing to lead ye wretched sinners away from the ignorant lies and injustice of these cursed blasphemers so that you need not languish in torment for hearing the foul cacophanies of your heathen 'phones.

I'm here to tell you boys that the way out of the bottle is clear, and that the true path into righteousness and eternal life points to itself. And that truth, o' my blessed brothers, is the Sennheiser HD600. Now go, go and thank the mighty father who sheds the blood of his only son that you might be shown his mercy for gifting thee with such a majestic and awesome way to receive his rapture.

>>62193027
Some anon who owned them visited us early in the year. He said they sounded like muds but blocked out a fuck-ton of noise. That's about all I can remember

is the sound blaster zx as good as fulla 2? there are no schiit products in my country
hd600 btw

>>62193075
Avoid gaymer garbage. Look for some Chinese stuff. I've heard the micca origen+ is a decent buy.

>>62192890
IM A FAT FUCK WHO SPOUTS NONSENSE. GIVE ME MONEY ON PATREON. https://www.patreon.com/plebspotters

>>62193109
Rude!

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Is there any point owning headphones other than the HD600?

>Budget
$50-$75, prefer to keep it lower though
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop, Phone
>Type of headphone
Over the ear I guess, I don't want people to hear my music
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Decently comfy, I have a big head
>Sound signature
Don't care
>Past headphones
The fanciest pair I've ever owned are my Logitec G930s

>>62193128
>>62193136
Pic + timestamp

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Why is it that no manufacturer has been able to top the HD600 after 20 years?

>>62193109
oh hey zeos. Just curious why is 170lbs considered fat when I can deadlift 500?

Are you ever going to get decent speakers or are you going to be stuck reviewing mid-fi budget bookshelfs?

>>62193157
Pic + timestamp

>>62193140
I also would like some IEMs too so, posting twice.

>Budget
Under $50 for these if possible
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, Laptop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfy, I am prone to ear infections so nothing too invasive or huge
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Shitty $15 walmart IEMs

>>62193162
shut up fatboy

>>62193166
fuck off faggot

>>62193173
No pic + timestamp? That was also very rude. anon

>>62193166
>>62193147
not an argument

>>62193173
so you're either zeos or the triggered shillheiser autist from last thread?

>>62193194
How can you know they are the best when you don't own them? Granted, I don't either

>>62193212
not an argument

Hey guys my earphones broke today, what are some good cheap earphones under $20?

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>>62193147

>>62192936
A lot of variables in the way. What makes you sure it is the nexus?

>>62193000
A little comment >>62192490

>>62193216
So you don't own them?

>>62193225
Pic + timestamp and i'll believe you; don't worry, I don't bite!

>>62193218
Kz zs3

>>62193244
whenever I read your dumb posts my brain automatically blocks everything in your name except 'PLEB' lmao

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>>62193240
literally retarded sasuga non-hd600 owner

>>62193140
CB-1, MDRs

>>62193170
KZs (zs5, ate, zs3), sound magic e10, mee m6, rock zircons, ve monks, re-400, carbo tenore

>>62193269
Why don't you filter him?

>>62193273
Don't worry, anon! I'm only asking for confirmation!

>>62193240
not an argument

>>62193269
wow I'm so insulted by that edgy 15 y/o comment. do you have a headache after thinking of that one? Check your nose for bleeding

>>62193289
Is that a no?

>>62193299
mad lol

>>62193308
:^) jamming out to some antoine dufour on these god tier planar magnetic cans. It's hard to be mad

HD600 owners = successful, healthy, handsome individuals with at least $50,000 in savings.

Beyer/AKG/Denon/AT/Chinkshit/Sony/Shure owners = virgin manlet fat loser nerds with no savings because they live on NEETbux.

>>62193328
Pic + timestamp?

>>62193337
not an argument

>>62193349
>Implying
Would you be even able to pick up the bat?

>>62193367
So, is that a no?

>>62193349
:^) please come to my house so I can record your autistic rantings on my front porch and put on YouTube titled "typical hd600 owner."

>>62193385
still not an argument

non-HD600 owners are getting so btfo this thread t b h

>>62193395
If I said I owned HD 600s but didn't, would I still be part of the club?

>>62193409
no, but HD600s aren't that expensive my boy. Just save up your neetbux for a few months and you'll have a pair easily.

>>62193236
>A lot of variables in the way. What makes you sure it is the nexus?

Tried the same thing with my mom's iPhone, sounds great. My previous phone was also fine with no problems. Some combination of the Nexus 4 DAC/AMP just makes it sound atrocious in my car. I've tried a couple of audio player apps on the phone too, no real difference.

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https://canpicker.com/

Any cans I should remove for poor value? I still have a backlog of cans to add.

>>62193349
>>62193393
actually you probably don't own the headphone anyway...

>>62193441
just remove it all except hd600

>>62193428
How nice are they? Do you mind if you take a pic for me to take a closer look? How about a timestamp too?

>>62193441
the m50s desu. The m40s are better.

Hd650s as well.

>>62193452
not an argument

>>62193475
Is that a no, you don't own the headphones, or a yes you do?

what an autistic thread

do you """"""""""people"""""""""" function in the real world?

>>62193452
>tries to take a pic
>headband snaps
>thin copper leads split

>>62193490
I do. The sennshills? Questionable.

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>>62193490
Well some of us have to, in order to afford our headphones.

>>62193499
>Snaps
>Uses Elmer's school glue to fix them up
>Works
>Put headphone back onto head
>Plastic snaps again
>tfw have to glue again

>>62193441
Your site is wall to wall unattractive dynamic shit when electrostats deserve particular prominence.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>62193566
Pic + timestamp

What are you jamming at this very moment /hpg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CQeF0XwqHM

>>62193490
I just assumed everyone here got their gear from welfare like me.

>>62193579
https://youtu.be/SpEHT9blu_0
https://youtu.be/ZwBkXgWNs_M

>>62193554

Pretty sure if you're hunting for electrostats, you already have a good idea of what you want and wouldn't even need my site.

How old were you when you grew out of the balanced armature meme?

>>62193579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVz9otZJ3U0

>>62193614
No, they aren't special or niche. They should be included in a selector.

>>62193636
>Ba
>meme

in all seriousness have you listened to any properly designed BA iems?

>>62193651

Yeah sure I can give selectors for planars and electrostats.

>>62193636
22, if the ZS5s turn out to be shit.

>>62193658
BA are invariably tinny and incapable of producing as natural a sound as a good dynamic.

>>62193438
The Behringer UCA202 is a fine enough converter. Not so great directly into headphones. It might work with the Nexus.
I think the Fiio K1 should work.

>>62193602
>https://youtu.be/ZwBkXgWNs_M

not normally my jam but that was some cool shit my famicom

>>62193674
that wasn't an answer to my question and you threw in a useless adjective to make an incoherent argument.

Have you ever listened to any properly designed BA iems?

>>62193697
If you liked them, check out their first album. Second and 3rd only have a few good singles (that was from the 3rd).

>>62193579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJJLr0QhfJY

>>62193579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTRwZZg_yTE

>>62193704
still not an argument

>>62193602
>>62193697
Really liking their shit, thanks for this dude

>>62193803
yeah you didn't have an argument. Glad you finally realized that.

>>62193834
Anytime *finger guns*

>>62193441
HD 201 is pretty lousy.
Redundancy of LCD2 and LCD3.
Similar situation with HD 600 and 650. Might as well consider the ATH-R70X.
M100 is mostly a prettier finished version of the Crossfade LP. I do not suggest it.

K612 and K702 are worth a mention.
Same for DT770 and DT880. How to denote the various impedance versions?
Would be nice to denote V6 and 7506 pair.
Get around to the HD 800 and the Ether.
>driver principle
Don't do that. It would be worth mentioning with electrostatic headphones, since the drive requirements are so far removed from the other types of headphones.

is akg bankrupt or what, what's going on there?

>>62193981
They've converted to Judaism

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Will this have good synergy with HD600s?

Just got my B&O H4 in today. They sound amazing and have great battery life. Would recommend.

>>62193909

Yeah I can remove HD 201. They're getting discontinued/prices have doubled and people complain to me that they suck.

I take it you'd like me to kill the LCD3? It's double LCD2 price.

HD600 and HD650 I kind of want to keep because they're both similar in price and you can pick your preference.

I can swap M100 for crossfade LP.

AKG and Beyer are on my todo list. I haven't figured out how to denote impedance but at the least I will note it with a comment in the hover tool tip.

Thanks

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>>62192353
meme headphones coming through

>>62194044
t.Da'Jamalius

>>62194044
Yes

>>62193136
Why do they look sad in every frame :(

>>62192353
I have new ones coming monday or saturday :^)

>>62194120
>t. Basslet

what should i get
>hd700
>srh1840
>amiron home

past headphone
>hd598

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>>62192369 >>62192570 >>62192580 >>62192957
Pizza here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>62194331
>Not pepperoni and bacon

>>62194331
Please tell me you aren't going to eat that near your computer.

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>>62194321
>hd700
wtf are you smoking.
>what should I get
HD600
>>62194347
I'm not a big fan of bacon. This is domino's texas BBQ

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>>62194368
Already done, while watching pic related.

>>62194373
>>the sennsumers are unhappy
>shill them more expensive headphones.

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>>62194058
>LCD3
Yep.
As an aside, I never found out if Audeze fixed the problems with the LCD3. This was a long running problem.
>Crossfades
To be clear, I don't like either. The design is strongly similar though.
>600/650
That's fine enough.
>impedance variation
I think DT880 Pro only comes one version. This will be the cheapest version in general.

There are some ideas I wanted to dredge up from an unfinished infographic. Serious work in progress, but it was an interesting start. The suggested changes to it are tied up in this comment chain.
https://warosu.org/g/thread/S59389372#p59390988

If you can set up a simple toggle for voltage sensitivity, that would be nice. Something like low/mid/high sensitivity. Electrostatic can be fenced off elsewhere.

>>62194436
>I never found out if Audeze fixed the problems with the LCD3.

Audeze is run by a pajeet and hifiman by a chink. No surprise that their products are heavy, unreliable, and unoptimized.

Hd600 or 650?

>>62193524
Is that el amp or the element?

>>62194321
get the hd700 and do the hd700 mod

>>62194553
It's the element. I might get the EL DAC later just for completions sake anyways.

>>62194436
Being above a certain sensitivty does not rule out the need for an amplifier as the non-zero output impedance from many sources produce distortion in dynamic cans.

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>You live in a noisy apartment overlooking a main road and will never get to hear your open headphones at their full potential

>>62194576
How is it?
I was thinking on buying the el amp + el dac but may buy instead the upcoming emotiva amp if it looks good enough

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HOW DO I DEAL WITH 4 MONTHS SHIPPING WAIT FOR HD6XX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>62194676
Forget about it. Surprise yourself when it gets there :^)

>>62194544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR34WTjYt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY
Do the right thing, Anon!
(protip: HD600)

>>62193306
not an argument

>>62194676
Buy the monoprice memephones

>>62194671
It works. Never had to put it past low gain with any of my headphones. Sound is clear.

The giant knob is amazing and super fucking smooth.

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>>62194589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdWrMgOq_n0
Move. Problem solved.

>>62194707
Which one, anon?
>>62193487
Was that a yes, or a no?

>>62194676
buy more headphones
>>62194713
this

>>62194488
The LCD3 teardown thread.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/instructive-and-sad-story-about-lcd-3-modification-attempt.770678/
The LCD3 RMA thread.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-many-times-have-your-lcd3-headphones-been-returned-to-audeze-for-servicing-rma.771760/

>>62194578
Output impedance is simple to correct for. Parallel resistor or equalization.

>>62194720
that guy has some major balls to dress up like a chick and play infront of all those people

>>62194676
buy a shp9500s to ease the pain of waiting

>Budget
100-150
>Location
USA
>Source
computer/ps4
>Type of headphone
circumneaural
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
i dont want sweaty ears
>Sound signature
whatevers good for competitive gaming and making music
>Past headphones
im currently using a superlux hd6b should i just get IEMs instead fuck i just want new sound to blow me away

>>62194821
That's a girl (F). But sure, 3DPD.

>>62194879
HD579.

Reminder that Fidelio X2s are bae.

>>62194915
Them TrustyFucks.

>>62194879
AD900x would be good for gaming

>>62194923
Runs through the Fidelio Family :^)

>>62194923
I used to drive mine with magni2/modi2, until I moved that setup downstairs for muh PS4. Just got a Fulla2, and it's just about as good.

I always tell friends, good audio is worth splurging on. It makes a world of difference and will probably last you your lifetime.

>>62194817
https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/11653109-the-0-ohm-headphone-amplifier

>>62194158
small dicks

>>62193157
The ER4SR shits all over the HD600 but the HD600 is the best you can do for full sized open.

>>62192369
Fuck you now I gotta make another filter.

Are there any shure215 replacement cables that have the rubber mold thing but also have a mic? (braided/anti-tangle would be great).

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>>62192440
I wonder wich one performs better, the HE400i or the HD 600. Oh wait, it's so damn obvious

>>62195996
Is that treble spike on the HE400i the mount Everest? Oh, wow, these valleys are epic indeed. It must be a fun ride.

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>>62195996
>bass rolloff

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>>62196036
Poorly sealed measurement.

>>62196118
still bass rolloff

>>62196036
Bass roll-off VS absolute chaos throughout the entire hearing range.

>>62196196
doesn't matter to me, I wouldn't buy either

>>62194436
>HD800
>V shaped

So hpg was always shit?

HD 600
D

6
0
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>>62193441
Do one with IEM's

Are MKIIIs a meme?

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Are the original ATH-M50 better than the new M50x? Because I see a lot of hate for it unlike few years where they were praised for being entry level tier cans. Whats the deal with these headphones?

>>62196910
They were only liked here when they were a lot cheaper. They stopped worth buying when the price went up. This applies to M50 and M50x.

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>>62192353
Posting headphones.

>>62196910
Get the MSR7's instead.

>>62196910
Not worth it vs price at the time. But yes, M50 > M50x by far.
M50x is a melanin enriched version, for melanin enriched people, to the expense of every other quality of the sound.

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>ears fucked up after many concerts.
wat do?

>>62197226
>never been to a concert
>don't listen to loud music
>ears have been ringing since I was 10

>>62197226
>>62197393
/tinnitus/ edition when

so my se215's mmmcx cable is going a bit janko, I have about £30 to spend on a replacement cable, should I just go for a stock shure one, or is there a straight up upgrade for cheap?

Are cable upgrades just a meme or do they actually upgrade stuff?

What do

>>62197841
>Are cable upgrades just a meme or do they actually upgrade stuff?
Complete meme.

>>62193236
Fell asleep. Thanks for the reply anon. I do love EQ as I've found it to make my dt990 sound significantly better. I don't mind it at all on my desktop but I do lack confidence in my eq settings. I'm going to be buying the he400i and hd600 to compare, returning one, and picking up a closed back portable or IEM. On the go I do not have access to an EQ that I am comfortable using.
I do have an hour long commute on a public bus but outside of engine noises it's quiet and only an hour so whatever. The other primary use case for the portable is on campus in the library or hall way where there also isn't insane back ground noise.
The heir has aesthetics going for it, hardcore, iit's fucking gorgeous but I feel as though there is no way an iem can offer similar depth and sound stage as even a closed back headphone. The ath-msr7 is also half the price.
Of course I could also forgo the one open back one portable option and just get a $500 portable that I would use for everything but I feel like even that would be inferior to a $300 open back like the he400i.

Have a shure215. Will buying these make the sound quality worse? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Upgrade-Audio-Cable-with-Mic-for-Shure-SE-215-425-535-846-Logitech-UE900-/263030076548?epid=907127879&hash=item3d3dd07484:g:W-EAAOSwAO9ZO5vR

Or should I get these? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Logitech-Cable-w-Mic-Control-for-Ultimate-Ears-900-UE900-Shure-535-846-SE215-/181277311388

>>62195996
Kelly. Sennshills are getting agitated

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Alright, here's the deal: it's almost the end of 2017 and I've been using strictly only wireless Bluetooth headphones for the couple last years, simply out of principle and to gather all the needed first-hand experience on this entire "wired VS wireless" debacle. So, after using strictly only wireless headphones on a daily basis for almost two-and-a-half years, I can definitely without any doubt openly state that the "always pro-wired only" and "only highly expensive portable players, no pleb-tier smartphones" pseudo-audiophilic FAGGOTS are completely and absolutely FULL OF SHIT. I won't argue with anyone here that wireless headphones in general and wireless sound technologies in overall were utter garbage just 5-or-so years ago, but nowadays it's NOWHERE even remotely close to being as bad as it was in 2012 and further down the line. Everything (literally EVERY THING) the so-called self-proclaimed pseudo-audiophilic kiddie shithead trolls are openly and absolutely brainlessly proclaiming loudly everywhere about MODERN wireless sound technologies being "bad" or "not on par with wired" is COMPLETE, 100% BULLSHIT. Abso-effing-lute LIE. These retarded deaf kiddies clearly never used any modern wireless headphone piece that cost more than 50$ (and actually good/worthwhile wireless headphones start from the 140$ mark AT THE VERY LEAST) and/or they never tried Apt-X LL or ESPECIALLY the GODLIKE LDAC. The fags basically don't know jack about any of this, but they act like they're the hottest and most knowledgeable shits around the block while in reality they not hot shits, but just shit. Modern wireless sound IS actually very good and does NOT lose to wired at all by the sheer quality of sound and latency (if it's apt-X LL or LDAC), WHILE being WAAAY more convenient and comfortable to use due to headphones being completely (WELL, DUH!) wireless. Fuck all those pseudo-audiophilic pseudo-elitistic sudo-entitled "pro-wired" shitheads, I say. They know fucking NOTHING.

>>62198664
>been using bluetooth garbage only
>hasn't had a proper setup in forever
>thinks bluetooth is good
kek,

>>62198664
Unironically true. I've asked these retarded audiophools to prove that they could ABX APTX and FLAC and not one of them could do it. Most likely they're just too poor to afford a good pair of Bluetooth headphones.

>>62198730
You're not trying hard enough, kiddie.

>>62198805
I'd like to try that out. Got an APTX encoder/decoder handy?

>>62198866
There are some sample clips here:
http://www.sereneaudio.com/blog/how-good-is-bluetooth-audio-at-its-best

>>62198895
I'd rather try it with my own music, which I know best.

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>>62198805
What's even more funny is the fact that I'm currently using several pairs of the most best wireless headphones that you can buy on the worldwide market in each price category (start - mid/high - top) in a combination with the best-sounding smartphones that are currently available out there, and was listening strictly only to actual raw WAV, FLAC, and redbook files. But underage pseudo-audiophilic faggots still get massively buttblasted about me "not using a proper setup", lol. This is so goddamn amusing that I'm literally laughing out loud right now, as I'm reading uneducated retarded crap such as the one produced by >>62198730.

>>62198895
>how-good-is-bluetooth-audio-at-it's-best
>at it's best
>Apt-X
Oh come on. Apt-X was "kind of good" sometime ago, actually quite a long time ago, but nowadays it's either "Apt-X LL" at the very least or bust. Standard non-LL Apt-X is pretty bad latency-wise. And if you wish to go for the best possible audio QUALITY, then it's LDAC only.

>>62198895
>at its best
So they picked samples where the codec does really good.
How convenient.
>aptX is awesome!
>just look at how well it does in these HANDPICKED SAMPLES!!!
kek

>>62198926
>excuses
If you can't notice the difference on these clips, it's obviously too small of a difference to be meaningful.

>>62198941
>reading comprehension
>being intentionally retarded for the sake of argument
this is just sad

What 50$ range wireless headphones would /g/ reccomend?

>>62193136
Which earbuds are those? Klipsch?

>>62198948
>ATRAC3 is transparent
>on these clips
>these clips
>If you can't notice the difference
>It's obviously too small of a difference
>to be meaningful
kek

>>62198960
*recommend

>>62198973
I think everyone here can see you're being extremely disingenuous to try and "win" the argument. Either ABX it or shut up, acting retarded on purpose contributes nothing to the discussion.

>>62198973
>How do I greentext?

>>62198941
Apt-X is naturally way better than A2DP or other old crap, but it's NOWHERE even remotely close to being as ACTUALLY GOOD as LDAC is. Apt-X was "fine" for a while, but it's not anymore. Time to retire it.

>>62198960
Unfortunately, there are almost no actually decent/good models in that price range. The closest one you can get to be of a "decent sound quality" is Rombica's "MySound BH-10 2C", but they have extremely crappy Bluetooth range and they usually tend to bug out and turn off even if slightest electromagnetic interference is nearby (like, for example, when you're in a convenience store and standing near a commercial fridge). Also note that the are literally "Chinshit Wireless" headphones. If you never ever had a pair of wireless Bluetooth headphones before and you wish to get ACTUALLY worthwhile device from the first attempt - you'd have to spend AT LEAST 120$ and these will be MEEElectronics' "Air-Fi Matrix 3" model. This is the EXACT very point where actual wireless QUALITY starts.

>>62198989
Believe me, I want to ABX, but I won't bother with broken methodology.
I need an encoder, so that I can try it with the FLACs of my choice, on my equipment, with my ABX tool of choice.
Anything less it's just playing the audiophile "ooh, how well aptX sounds"
>on these samples
>handpicked to make aptX look good

>>62199069
>more excuses
It's because you can't do it. Those samples are not indicated to be handpicked to "look good", saying so is completely disingenuous. You can download the samples and ABX them with whatever tool you want, don't tell me you're too retarded to even figure that out.

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>>62199069
>make Apt-X look good
It IS kind of good (apt-X HD and LL)...IF you never tried LDAC and never compared the two, that is.

>>62195004
The paper focuses on two things: back EMF generated by the motor and the response shift.

A parallel resistor works because the presented impedance to the headphone drops based the parallel resistor. Back EMF is generated by the motion of a conductor relative to a magnetic field. To look at this problem, it might be helpful to break it apart into an equivalent circuit. Example here:
>https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/learning-to-simplify-thevenin-and-norton-equivalent-circuits/
The voltage sources are both the amplifier and the headphone itself. The HPA-2 linearity is very good. The coil displacement, which generates the counter voltage, is nowhere near as linear for anything other than a very small displacement, which will be well above the resonance frequency.
The voltage from the headphone, distortion and all, is almost totally dumped into the driver. When you place a resistance in series with the back voltage, some of it gets dumped into the resistor. The back voltage, the back EMF, is being measured by Benchmark.

The impedance "seen" by the headphone drops when place the resistor parallel to the headphone load.
The frequency response shift is from the change on in the voltage drop.

>>62198930
I fucking love Tim Curry

>>62197054
Talk to me about the mdr-1a vs the momentum. In that market.
Other candidate is a B&O or MSR7

>>62199310
HEDEAD

>>62199116
LDAC is fucking awesome. If I could get support for it on my PC and phone I would buy a pair of headphones that use it.

>>62199378
He will out-live us all

>>62199386
LDAC is basically the one of the two only reasons why I was highly anticipating Android 8's release to begin with. Before Android 8 was announced LDAC was strictly a Sony-proprietary technology and was used only in their wireless devices of higher priced range. Now, starting with Android 8, LDAC will essentially be a default hi-end wireless sound codec in every smartphone and other wireless devices out there. What a time to be alive.

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Are there a better poorfag cans than Takstar 80/Cloud for closed and SHP9500 for open?

>>62199424
What version of bluetooth do you need to use it?
Have they also opened it up for non-sony headphones or do I need a sony wireless?
Yeah android 8 is awesome, I might buy a new phone if I can find some nice ldac headphones because I've been on a moto e lte for years.
>>62199470
I think the takstar 80 is a good utilitarian headphone but really the sound is very shit. I do not enjoy music on them at all. I think some other sub $100 headphones might be way better.
Can't comment on shp9500 but I'd love to hear them. Hard to beat at newegg's price.

>>62199470
$3 earbuds equalized to sound like HD800 with EqualizerAPO + PeaceGUI.

>>62199424
Or you could just attach a wire.

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>>62199509

>>62196465

Yeah sure, I'll get around to it eventually. Do people even care about IEMs that much though? I always get the cheapish ones since they die on me pretty fast. I wouldn't dare buy $100+ ones.

>>62199342
I mostly prefer a neutral to slightly warm sound when listening to music. Wouldn't exactly recommend these for mixing. Just listening. Both are super comfy and sound great to my ears. I have never tried the others you mentioned. All in all, I'm happy w/ both headphones, and have used both on long road trips.

>open back
wtf, now everyone knows that I listen idol shit

>>62199876
>I wouldn't dare buy $100+ ones.
Detachable cables and a case help iems last a lot longer. You don't have to worry at all about iems breaking if you put them into a case after every use. I've been using my 1more triple drivers for almost a year and they're doing just fine thanks to their case.

>>62199876
Nicer ones are definitely more robust. Not to the extent of proper headphones, but I'd say $100 is a very reasonable price point for IEMs.

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>>62199876
I've had my Sony's for about a year and a half now. They're normally $150 I believe and are now DC but I got them for $75 on sale. Still in good shape and I use them every day on the go.
I think as long as you don't have a defective product it's not a problem. Also the good shit has removable cables and like metal housings.

Will Sennhieser ever improve the HD 600 pads? I got some replacements and I forgot that they feel like sandbags for a month

>>62199950
They'll eventually release the Sennheiser HD1200, with the AGA chipset.

>>62199950
Nope. Just like they haven't fixed the snaptastic headband

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>>62199500
>What version of Bluetooth do you need to use LDAC?
Considering that it started being implemented by default only from Android 8, I guess Bluetooth 4.1 at the very least.

>Have they also opened it up for non-Sony headphones or do I need a Sony wireless?
That we don't know yet, as there are simply no massive amount of Android 8-based smartphones on the market so far, but I personally highly doubt that this will be Sony-only when it becomes mainstream, simply due to default LDAC implementation in all Android 8 devices making no logical sense in the case if Sony decides to not license this to other wireless headphone manufacturers. They've already licensed this to Android 8, so why the hell will they restrict it only to their wireless headphones now? That will be an asshole move and will undoubtedly garner a lot of critique on Sony's ass. I don't think that Sony's THAT stupid as to not provide other wireless headphone manufacturers with a LDAC license. And even if (and that's a very big IF) they actually in all seriousness restrict LDAC usage only to their wireless devices, this still at least leaves us an option to not use a Sony smartphone for it if we wouldn't want to, so there's at least that.

>>62199950
>Sennheiser
>HD 600
>Changing anything ever
Don't count on it

>>62199570
Attach it up your rectum, faggot. I'm a grown up man for the modern day and age, wires are for hipsters and cavemen.

>>62199897
Open monitor headphones are excellent when you're using them outdoors in a spacious environment (like fields, mountains, big parks or beaches), but in a cluttered city environment you'd better off with closed ones. This also applies to wireless, if anything.

>>62200040
>too much of a sissy falala faglord to just use a wire

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>>62200081
>A sucky boy faggot with a cuckolding wire stuck up his ass is calling someone else a fag
Oh the irony.

>>62200146
>Being a wirelet
>Getting mad about it
It's OK, senpai

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I'm happy with them.

Did Philips retire the Fidelio X2 or something? I only see them used on amazon.

>>62200193
>He's so young he doesn't even know what let means and how to use it properly
My sides

>>62200369
They releasing a Fidelio X2 Hi-Res

>>62200415
Name one (1) worthwhile wireless headphone that isn't shit-tier or overpriced for what it sounds

>>62200542
Focal Utopias plugged into a shanling m2s.

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>>62200542
Plantronics BackBeat Pro 2 SE (monitor, closed, neutral)
MEElectronics AirFi Matrix 3 (monitor, half-open, bright)
Marshall Monitor Bluetooth (monitor, closed, V-shape)
Master & Dynamic MW60 (monitor, closed, V-shape)
Bang & Oulfsen H9 (monitor, closed, neutral)
Sony MDR-1000X (monitor, closed, warm-to-neutral)
Onkyo W800BT (IEM, closed, neutral)
JVS HA-S90BN (monitor, closed, V-shape)

All of these currently available headphones are absolutely worthwhile wireless solutions. The most expensive one in that list is Master & Dynamic MW60 and even it is not really overpriced (usually sells for 600$, but can be found for a cheap as ~420$ at some places during sale-off days).

>>62200771
He said 100% wireless.

>>62200781
But that doesn't exist because even wireless headphones have wires in the cups and headband.

Is there any decent headset for a ps4?

>>62200772
>JVC HA-S90BN
Fixed

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>>62200798
>100% wireless doesn't exist
>wired cucks actually believe this
Ayy LMAO, muh sidesu

>>62200798
Autism = the post.

Does anyone have experience with Millett Hybrid MiniMAX or Asus Xonar Essence? People are selling those as used near by me and i'm wondering if these would be good. Also any amp/dac recommendations for my HD600 would be nice.

>>62200847
1. That's an earphone, not a headphone.
2. You're still wrong, the voice coil is a wire.

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>>62200798
O RLY

>>62200878
Wireless fags will never recover

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>>62200878
>earphone, not a headphone
"Autism = the post", Part Deux.

>>62200880
Still earphones, not headphones.

>>62200895
Keep telling yourself that you're not a retard, kiddo.

>>62200901
>Moving the goalpost

for the love of fuck, recommend me the best headphones for under 60$ and above 30$ (not interested in 1$ chinese apple earpods)

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>>62200903
>>62200939
>Autism intensifies

Looking at a pair of ATH-AR3BTBK. Is the wireless aspect worth it or should I look elsewhere?

>>62200919
I'm joking for God's sake, I just enjoyed that post despite (or perhaps because of) its autism.

>>62200944
Consider adding ~$10 more to your budget for the Philips SHP9500, it punches above its price

btw are the akg k167 any good?

>>62200944
This
>>62200976
$50 in Newegg

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190

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>>62200956

>>62200979
I heard those had issues with snapping hinges

>>62200995
thanks for the recommendation, but im more looking for close back with good bass.

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>>62201006
>All that damage control of a cuckolder sucky boy faggot with a phat long braided silver wire shoved deep down his rectum

>>62201043
None? You could have just said so, anon!

Rock zircon or Sony xb50?

>>62198159
A little note, Heir now sells the "4.Ai S". Lovely naming scheme.
It is possible that they got around to fixing the mid-treble problem of the 4.Ai. Given Heir, I wouldn't be so sure. Can be difficult to find models.
I would not worry so much about depth and soundstage. For headphones it is by and large determined by the magnitude of the frequency response, the EQ bit.

I suppose we'll just have to worry about fit and shit when you get to it.

>>62198895
The real test would be to re-encode the sample clips to 128 kbps mp3 and see how they sound. That's how Youtube would sound with bluetooth headphones.

Someone tell me if this is good or not. I don't trust /csg/ to give me a good opinion on headphone quality.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Yenona-Studio-Pro-DJ-Headphones-Professional-Monitoring-Headband-Headphone-with-Microphone-Hifi-Headphone-for-Mobile-Phone/2412040_32705349478.html

>>62198966
Etymotic

>>62198895
The three music samples provided are poor examples for this purpose: none have loud crash/splash cymbals high up in the mix, which would be the easiest way to hear lossy artifacts. Cherrypicked, indeed. That being said, the Pink Floyd sample, one I'm very familiar with, after being re-encoded to 128 kbps mp3 sounded noticeably lower-fi than lossless. The real problem with Bluetooth isn't the codec on its own, it's playing back lossy content with the codec, meaning stacking lossy codecs. Most people use their headphones to do more than just play back lossless content, so for the majority of users, who like to do things like use Youtube, Bluetooth headphones do represent a considerable loss in fidelity.

>>62202056
Encoding AptX to 128kbps is totally different from encoding 128kbps mp3 to AptX. A transparent codec will be transparent no matter the source. Unless you have the FLAC of your YouTube video, you won't be able to tell the difference.

>>62202120
>Unless you have the FLAC of your YouTube video, you won't be able to tell the difference.
So you're conceding that there will be an audible difference between listening to a FLAC through wired headphones and listening to Youtube through AptX bluetooth headphones. Got it.

>>62202242
There is a difference between listening to FLAC and listening to youtube, period.

>>62201060
Keep crying, faggot.

>>62202056
LDAC, go google it up.

>>62202324
None? That's all I need :^)

How can I listen to digital without a DAC?

My m40x came today. Good recommendation bois, Im glad as fuck
Money for nothing in flac sounds like heaven
4chan /g/ - another happy customer

>>62203075
Have fun with flaky headband in 6 months. I wouldn't recommend ATH m series to anyone.

>>62203117
lol pleather. Nothing cheap black tape can't fix. Not him.

>>62201025
TFZ-3S or TFZ-5S on sale. That's your only option for that price range with good bass.

I have no idea how, but this Modi Multibit sounds amazing compared to my old Modi. Best meme I've purchased in a while.

>>62203844
Pic + timestamp

>>62203844
>odi Multibit sounds amazing compared to my old Modi.
no it doesn't, and if it does it's only because the modi is shit

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I lose so much hair to these.

>>62204078
Do those pull on your hair? I probably see a hair or two stuck on the fabric every month

>>62204078
You think it'd work if I took the drivers from these and modded them into grados?

>>62204078
>not putting $60 earpads on your $50 headphones

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>no oppos
Best office headphones.

>>62202439
Shove that wire deeper up your hemorrhoid ass, faggot.

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>>62204258
Speak up anon, were you trying to name a headphone?

>>62204184
I'm balding so I have really weak hair. The porous fabric is perfect for trapping them.

>>62202505
you cannot.

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>>62204234
Tfw using them in the office right now
Feels good

>>62203902
That could be. My original Modi had some weird sound issues from being powered by the usb (getting a wyrd fixed it). I must confess, my modi died about a week ago and so I'd been using my motherboards sound sent to my Magni. So while my comparison is only by memory, the multibit sounds better to me. If I could do a side by side I'm sure the difference would be marginal, but I do think it sounds better than I remember and I'm quite happy with my purchase.

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>>62193674
Listen to the w40's retard. Not tinny at all. Great bass response. Don't say things that are inherently wrong.

>>62204351
>my comparison is only by memory
I already know it is, otherwise you wouldn't be saying it sounds a lot better.
>I'm sure the difference would be marginal
No, it would be less than marginal.

>>62203844
I own the standard schiit stack and I know nothing about multibit. Why is it actually supposed to be better?

>>62204351
>My original Modi had some weird sound issues from being powered by the usb (getting a wyrd fixed it)
oh and also, all you had to do to fix that was buy a $5-10 usb hub that was powered from an outlet, not a $100 schiit product
>>62204430
because snake oil

>>62204358
>isines
For hwat purpose
Do you like them?

>>62204447 new thread

>>62204442
I want an explanation. This is the exact kind of comment I was expecting.

>>62204476
From Schiit themselves

How about the Modi Multibit?
Modi Multibit has exactly the same inputs, finish, and controls as Modi 2 Uber (and also a large, stylized “M” screened on the top that looks kinda like a space invader—and helps designate it as a Modi Multibit.) But it’s profoundly different from the Modi 2 Uber inside:

Architecture: Instead of a conventional delta-sigma architecture, the Modi Multibit uses our own, entirely new multibit architecture.
Digital Filter: Instead of using the digital filter embedded in the AK4490 DAC, the Modi Multibit features our own unique closed-form digital filter implemented on an Analog Devices SHARC DSP—the same filter used in the Bifrost Multibit.
D/A Converter: Again, instead of using a delta-sigma audio DAC, the Modi Multibit uses an Analog Devices AD5547 medical/military-grade D/A converter—the same D/A converter used in the Bifrost Multibit.

>>62204444
nice quad quads.

Yea, I like them. Very interesting sound signature, hard to get used to (sometimes the bass sounds great, other higher bass levels sometimes are lacking). but they are super accurate, and the sound stage is insane for in-ears. My biggest issue is comfort, in that during a long listen the plastic part that goes around your ear can sometimes get uncomfortable. I want to fix this by bending them in hot water, but I haven't taken the time to do that yet.

>>62204527
Sounds a bit memey, cheers.

>>62204558
it's not a meme, it's a marketing scam

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>>62200073
>now everybody knows that I listen idol shit
Nothing to be ashamed of.

>>62200772
>closed, closed...
No open options?
>monitor
What a joke.

>>62200944
662 EVO

>>62197393
etd