This is the future that Republicans want.

>block reddit
wtf im a republican now

I don't see a problem

>>62185573
>implying a world without reddit is a bad thing

getting rid of reddit would be good though

>>62185609
>It appears you are using a Virtual Private Network! In order to add the "l33t h4ck3r" module to your internet package, please visit Comcast.com

>implying removing government control and regulation means every company will go full retarded Jew

Why do liberals always think like this?

>>62185573

Modern Internet is cancer anyway.
Shut down everything.

Time to show these tumblr faggots a thing called reality.

>>62185639
We studied history, and it is actually the Protestants that are the worst about justifying corporate scam practices.

>>62185652
You are 100% a buttmad asshat who desperately wishes he was one of the cool kids.

>>62185639
>rabbi won't jew you more if you give him more power

>>62185593
This

>>62185593
>>62185621
Are all Republicunts this dumb?

>>62185639
because that's exactly how companies work. Their sole purpose is to make money for their share holders. They would pick your bones if they think they could make a profit out of it.

>>62185707
yes
They can't tolerate free speech if it doesn't conform to their stupid Drumpf nazi views

>>62185729
DELETE
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>62185639
What's stopping them when in many cases they don't have any real competition in their areas? People can't realistically just cancel their subscriptions and do without the internet even if you jew them hard.

>>62185707
I sure hope I am

>>62185639
Because they have.
In multiple industries.
And continue to do so.

>>62185573
Heil Trump

>let's keep the ancient regulation of title II so comcast can keep his monopoly forever

>>62185573
Thanks for proving you're a redditor, antifa scum.

>>62185707
>>62185729
>republicunts
>drumpf
>Nazi

Wow really got me there

>>62185593
>>62185621
Seems like you (((got it))).

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I want D.A.D. to happen.
I want to watch the internet implode.
I shitposted with the first men.
Its only right that I be the one to kill it.
Then I can finally be free.

yeah, they are private companies.
Don't like it? Quit your service.
Fuck lazy fat gib me niggers and their free shit.
Government doesn't pay for their infrastructure.
ISPs are shit but "NN" legit raises my blood pressure

>>62185573
>Reddit isn't included in your internet plan
Nothing of value lost. Real talk, though, would you fags pay your ISPs to shitpost here?

>>62185903
>Quit your service when they're the only one available because they bullied all the smaller competitors out

>let free market deal with it
so? just get another ISP?

>>62185915
Yes. Boycott. Send them the message.

>>62185905
lmaono

eh the main reason why so many companies want to keep NN is not that they're afraid that you'll be charged to access their sites, it's that -they- will be charged to access ISP networks, which is far more plausible and easier to do.

>>62185869
I hope DAD happens so /pol/fags have to stop using the internet due to being priced out of it

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This is the future that Democrats want.

>>62185639
>implying removing government control and regulation means every company will go full retarded Jew
Yes, that's exactly what it means because that's exactly what they do.

>implying removing government control and regulation doesn't mean every company will go full retarded Jew

why do cons always think like this?

>reddit
Haha, they're our rivals!

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>>62185961
Nah, this

>>62185973
Conservatives are corporation boot lickers

>>62185982
this

>>62185973

That never happened since the Internets existence.

However we do have proog of Clouflare/Tor/etc blocking websites they don't like.

>>62185573
>liberals actually believe this is what will happen
net neutrality actually let isps get away with a lot of shit just by the simple fact of having a nearly impossible bar to entry for new competition.

>>62185974
>rivals
you mean subordinates

>>62185573
I'm so glad I don't live in the 3rd world where this shit is allowed.

I am sure fb google Netflix and the other tech oligarchs who shill and lobby for nn have the best interests of internet users at heart

>>62186029
>Tor

Wat

>>62186099
fake news

>>62186080
funnily enough where internet is available in third world countries, it's usually faster and more robust without the shit liberals fear monger about

>>62185593
burn it all down

>adapts legislation that allow a handful of actors to effectively reach monopoly status
>"fucking capitalism"

I don't understand how liberals can both be the biggest corporate shills in history AND think that companies can't be trusted.

>>62186081
>he's literally siding with pajeets
amazing

>>62186099

Tor and CLoudflare have been blocking and throttling stormfag sites.

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>/g/ claims /pol/ is reddit
>/g/ cries about how access to reddit must be defended
>/g/ thinks blocking "hate speech" is okay
>/g/ is somehow not reddit

>>62185936
boycotts are incredibly hard to organize when only a partial portion of the population is in disadvantage, IMO wouldn't work

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>>62186122
dems are finished

>>62186122
I was just thinking this. We only have this issue because we had to force any and all small ISPs out in favor of government control.

Sick of these fucking Nazis who are against regulating the internet and making it a safer more inclusive space. You wont be able to afford the premiums to access fake news sites you bigot cunts.

>>62185961
>>62185982
This

>>62185573
We already got throttling when browsing youtube or any huge bandwidth website.

>>62185915
>implying that the big isp is bullying the small isp
>not realizng that is the fucking US law that doesn't permit us to have lots of small isp

>>62186180
Cry more lefty /pol/ faggot
Your tears are delicious

>>62185639
because it always fucking happens you twat

>>62186122
>blaming liberals for conservatives actions
the absolute state of cuckservatives
but y-y-y-you guys freed slaves right? LMAO

>>62186144
>Tor

Source?

IF GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IS FOR THIS, I AM FOR THIS TOO


SHADILAY!!!!


PRAISE KEKE


FUCK LIBSHIT SHILLS

>>62185639
You sound pretty dense, the fact that you think everyone that questions that is a liberal makes you look even dumber

>>62186256
thank you goyim

>unlimited mobile data for ~20$/m since 2010 or so
>high speed internet even in countryside

tfw when you actually live in first world country and not some mexican shithole called USA

>>62185961
No. But we want to come into your safe spaces and shout you into submission because we are Legion.

>>62186212
If you want free speech and unregulated internet fuck off back to /pol/

>>62186298

your unlimited is not unlimited and you probably have some shitty 2g internet..

i know this because you never named whatever shit hole you're from

>>62185573
>Internet companies can block whoever they want to and it's perfectly fine because free speech doesn't apply to private companies
>We should make the Internet a public service though because everyone should have equal access to the Internet
Pick one and only one

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>>62185573
>ISPs start blocking sites like YouTube and Reddit
>Web 3.0 crumbles down as people stop using hubs and WebOS
>Large expansion and user-generated sites start flowering
>Webrings become a thing again
>DNS abolished in favor of IPV6
>Golden Age of Internet for real this time

>>62186349
>your unlimited is not unlimited
It actually is very much unlimited and 4g and soonish 5g (TY Nokia networks)

and its called Finland.

>>62186393
>Finland
Interesting spelling of Mongolia

>>62186374
I agree that this would be good, but I disagree with the causal links you imagine that would make happen.

>>62186429
It's a stretch and it depends how much dick consumers are willing to take in the ass. I also don't think we can go back to those days either. Too many people relying on mobile and on other people's work instead of making things themselves. Let me bask in nostalgia, anon it's the only thing that keeps me from !!!FUN!!!

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>>62186424
1on1 geography for you memelord

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>>62186491
haha yes finrand very whitu

>>62186491
Don't bully the burger, it's not their fault their education is 3rd world tier.

>>62186221
There is none, he's just mad that they tweeted something, in which, doesn't conform to his political views. For people who hate """""""Fake News""""""" so much they sure do spread a lot of it.

Holy shit am I tired of the political climate these days.

Am I the only one who doesnt give a fuck?

>>62186734
You're going to be absolutely exhausted with the coming years

>>62186276
thank you goy boy for defending our privilege to rip you off

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>>62186491
There's only one country between finland and mongolia.
Btw, russia used to be part of mongol empire.

>>62186150
All popular 4chan boards are edgy teenagers and lonely old people. No one is making you come here.

>>62185573
Reminder that 4chan would be one of, if not the first clearnet site to be on the chopping block in this future.

>>62186789
As long as both reddit and 4chan were chopped, I'd be fine.

>>62185663
>>62185683
>>62185717
>>62185743
>>62185765
>>62185962
>>62186218
>>62186256
There's no net neutrality now, so where is jewry you fear?

That's right, you want to bring it about with net neutrality. dumb fuck niggers.

>>62186814

this really isn't about net-neutrality

it's about classifying the internet as a utility (it's not)

>>62186859
oops. what a flimsy deception. how can this fool anyone?

>hey guys nothing is happening but let's fear monger so we can introduce legislation just so nothing happens in the future
Moron.

>>62186814
Thank you. Make sure to come to the Verizon HQ next Monday. There'll be tea and cake served to all volunteers.

>>62186859
But it's gaining prominence, to the point that getting a basic high school education would require access to the internet. It's become as important as utilities to live in the modern age.

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>>62186150
>/G isn't a single collective person.
>/G isn't retarded enough to support blocking Reddit because they would just as easily be able to block 4chan.
b-b-but REDDIT XDDDDDD

>>62186889
I asked a question. What is net neutrality preventing?

you claim it's the jewing of the internet, but that can't start until net neutrality legislation is passed. That's the point of passing it. You fear monger with sites getting shut down by ISP, but that's factually what the government is doing right now.

You fool exactly no one. What makes it worse is this massive shill campaign simply didn't exist in 2007. We see clearly all actors who don't belong. You glow in the dark.

>this happens
>end up getting more than two fucking ISPs available to the entire county
Sounds like a win-win. You should be using a VPN anyway.

Also can someone explain to me how wired ISP's have a monopoly on the internet even though we have a bunch of wireless and satellite ISP's

>but muh netflix

you aren't entitled to netflix, but even then, mobile ISP's provide unlimited Netflix, albeit only in 480p

>>62185573
tl;dr yes

Porn and reddit should be banned from the internet

>>62185903
>Government doesn't pay for their infrastructure.
But the government has, in fact, paid for quite a bit of their infrastructure. And it's certainly doing a lot to help them maintain their monopolies.

>>62186944
>you aren't entitled to a service that you pay for by the month
The Jews are out in full force today.

>>62186937
>What is Net Neutrality preventing.
>Net Neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of the source, and without favoring or blocking particular products or websites.
Verizon won't be able to block 4chan because they want you to sign up for the BASEMENT DWELLER PACKAGE™ at only 19.99$. I await whatever retarded "MUH FREE MARKET" argument you got next.

>>62187017
>boring deception
There's no net neutrality now.

So where is this basement dweller package?

>>62186958
>Fag is mad that he can't stop himself from watching Gay Porn, so he wants all porn to be banned.
Suck a dick closet fag.

>>62186937
And what exactly do you stand to lose from net neutrality? Can't bear the sight of Paul Ryan's tears?

The amount of thought crime in this thread is sickening. KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS KILL THE TRAITORS

>>62187062
YOU CLAIM verizon will kill 4chan without net neutrality.

So why aren't they? I asked a question. You push deception.

>>62187036
>Being retarded enough to think that Verizon would immediately start implementing, wildly unpopular changes to the way people access their Internet, thus causing customers to run away in droves.
You morons really don't understand how business works don't you?

>>62187085
So Verizon won't ever implement a basement dweller package because customers would leave..... but we have to push for net neutrality so they wont in the future?

Sorry you're a nigger.

>>62187080
>Why aren't they immediately implementing unpopular changes to the Internet, right after an entire campaign was railed against them for supporting the repeal of Net Neutrality.
Keep larping as a retard.

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>>62185573
You faggots have bitched about pol threads all week long. This is why you have a /pol/ infestation.

>>62187080
They can't do it as long as it remains a common carrier, which Trump's pet Pajeet wants to repeal.

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>>62187114
YOU CLAIM Verizon will shut down 4chan without net neutrality... The lie detector shows: that was a lie.

>>62187085
So you're saying we don't need it, never needed it since we never had net neutrality and it didn't happen, and will never need it

>>62186150
>>/g/ cries about how access to reddit must be defended
We don't want /r/technology here.

>>62187098
Would your landlord raise prices by 100% and one month after they legally could, or would they wait and slowly increase rent by 10-15% each month until they achieve their goal?

as long as I can play roblox its whatevs

>>62187144
/thread

>>62187150
is that a hypothetical question? you know that's not real, correct?

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>>62185573
>republicans want to charge on a per website basis
>democrats want to remove websites that are offensive

>>62187131
>Because they didn't do it in the past means they won't do it in the future.
Do you fucking retards have an actual argument against NN or are you here just to shitpost?

>>62187178
YOU CLAIMED republicans want to charge on a per website basis

the lie detector determined: that was a lie

>>62187192
YOU CLAIMED you weren't caught sucking dick in a glory hole.

The lie detector determined: that was a lie.

>>62187222
was this thread about pushing net neutrality deception or calling me a dick sucker?

Seems like you fell back on plan b, nigger.

>>62187150
Someone still lives at home. No landlord would ever do that

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>>62186150
>/g/ is one person

lmao tech megacorps can literally steal your domain with no explanation and you losers seriously think your ISP is the threat?

>>62187235
There is no plan B, you clearly haven't posted an actual argument and have turned to posting shit memes, I'm just continuing the trend. When you make an actual argument other than "HUR DUR THEY DIDNT DO IT IN THE PAST THEREFORE WERE SAFE, COMPANIES ARE MY FRIENDS" we'll talk.

>>62187277
YOU CLAIM net neutrality is needed to protect the internet user

The lie detector determined: that was a lie.

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>mfw trumpcucks end up silencing themselves in the long term because they thought they could annoy liberals in the short term
>mfw i also don't live in a third world country and have to put up with this shit

>>62187242
Reeeeeeeally? Just look at the rent prices in Toronto.

>>62185573

No I don't. But I sure as hell will vote for it if the alternative is racism, affirmative action, hatred of my sole existence, and raised taxes for immigrants I do not even want, I don't care that you want them, you can have as many immigrants as your heart desire, but if you want it, you pay for it.

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>>62187242

>>62187288
>get destroyed
>boohoo trump

fear monger more. turns out calling a trap "neutral" doesn't fool anyone.

>>62186335

Holy shit, could you possibly try to be a little less cringe?

>>62187288
woah a liberal describing the inverse of reality well I never.

>be deranged libtard
>cry HATE SPEECH NAZI
>get a site banned from a domain
>go on ban spree all over the internet and youtube
>claim its republicans doing what you yourself
classic saul alinsky tactics

>>62185573
I use Tor, so...

>>62185639
Fuck off /pol/

>>62187364
>thinking /g/ will be vulnerable to retarded deception if /pol/ leaves
>/pol/ boogyman at all
you are stupid

>Implying ISPs would bother to waste the amount of resources necessary to "lock down" the internet
They want to repeal Title II because they enjoyed being completely unregulated, ISPs are insanely greedy and won't lift a finger to pay for more equipment, even if it means they'd be able to suck out another penny from you.
They'd rather just keep hiking rates for no change.

>>62187385
This issue is everyone from /pol/ is seemingly so stupid that when they see a wolf coming around but it's a private corporation, they'll gladly let it chew their arm off, but when that wolf is the government they'll get all up in arms about "muh SJW's". They can't fucking rationalize.

>>62185961
That's a bingo!

>>62187421
>liberal donkey fucking you in the ass banning free speech RIGHT NOW
>but that howling wolf in the distance sounds scary

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>>62187421

yup

>>62187459
statists irl

>at least it supports the ruling class oligarchs who reinforce the status quo I love

>>62187456
Come on, tell me which "''''Democrat""" is censoring you RIGHT NOW.

>>62185634
Good luck trying to detect or block my obfs4 oandr shadowsocks.

>>62187487
As a collective Google and Facebook

>>62187471

the state is the only entity that is capable of having a moral compass because it is chosen by the will of the people

the fact that america gave up on theirs and left it to fester into the toothless wretched swamp it is now is your own fault for not staying vigilant and surrendering to entities that exist purely to make profit by any means necessary

>>62187511
Wrong look at religion

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>>62187511
>the state is the only entity that is capable of having a moral compass because it is chosen by the will of the people

>>62185982
Comcast wouldn't block this. The FCC would. Oops you don't have a license to run a website. Go directly to federal prison!

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>>62185573
>blocks your ports
>nothing personal kid

>>62187507
So let me get this straight, you're mad one group of corporations """censoring""" you, but you're OK with another corporation censoring? You see the key thing here? Google and Facebook don't represent the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party does, and I want you to tell me which "Democrat" is censoring you.

>>62187459
But that's a voluntary transaction. YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. WHAT DON'T YOU COMMUNISTS UNDERSTAND? HOW IS CHOICE BAD?

>>62187306
Show me a statistic that shows 15% increase per month. Then tell me what kind of person would sign a lease that allows their landlord to increase rent at an infinite amount, without a one month notice.

>>62187547
>Literally the exact opposite of what the FCC wanted.
K.

NO TRUMP, NO KKK NO FASCIST USA.

>>62186859

it pretty much is. There's not that much of a difference between running water, elecricity, and internet.

>>62187592
>the state controlling the internet is a good thing
Yeah man China and Iran internet rules.

>>62187582

>no choice of the state

i can see how it feels this way living in america but it is the people's fault for allowing their politics to get to the point where they are now

>>62187574
Both those corporations embrace leftist ideology its beyond parties. I don't want any censorship and that's why I'm against them allying with federal powers like network neutrality.

>>62185573
It just means everyone will be forced to buy VPN's.

But oh wait.

The ISPs can just introduce a new rule that bans VPNs, proxies and Tor thanks to Net Neutrality. or atleast make it so you have to upgrade to business tier to enjoy such features.

If that happens, then the internet will truly be in a medieval age.

I don't understand how any sane, rational person would want something like this.

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>>62187583
The argument wasn't even about rent control, it was just making an equivalence to simplify the point being made, but since you seem so keen on talking about this.

>>62187583
>Then tell me what kind of person
The kind of a person who only has one ISP in his area.

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>>62187582
We're on the verge of having 0 choice in corporations at this point as well.

>>62187459
https://youtu.be/09Nx5v-jIBo?t=22m45s

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>>62187645
>bans VPNs

>>62187632
> I don't want any censorship
> That's why I'm against them allying with federal powers like network neutrality.
It amazes me how stupid you are. You know you could just search for what Net Neutrality actually is right?

>>62187676
It can happen
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/30/russian-censorship-law-bans-proxies-and-vpns/

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>>62185609
>>62185634
>>62187506
Let's make any kind of VPN or proxy usage a federal crime then!

Got something to hide?

>>62185573
>he thinks that democrats don't want this too
>he doesn't understand party voting policies
>he thinks this extreme example is realistic
OP is just a faggot yet again.

>>62185593
Friendly reminder republicunt if they take down reddit they come here

>>62187687
I know what network neutrality is far better than you. I've been following it for years and read the proposal

Nigga am I trippin? Let me know. I thought all that Donald Trump bullshit was a joke.

>>62187671
I don't get it. Are you saying that each company should only make one kind of snack like in soviet Russia?

>>62185573
they're going to censor the internet

there will be only 5-10 big web sites with all kinds of functionalities where people go and the internet will be shit

soon we'll have to have real identities on the internet, inet papers

>>62187655
>$1660 rent increase
this seems like an easy way to force everyone out your complex.

sure beats giving everyone a 6 month notice about closing down.

>>62185707
Republicans can only think in dollars, they would sell the constitution for profit.

>>62187709
Why would the Demoracts want it gone after they worked so hard to institute it in the first place?

>>62187487
californian judges already tried to chew at the 1st amendment. You just need a place where liberals feel safe and cozy, and they'll start to go into this direction

>California Court Says Online Bullying Is Not Protected Free Speech

>>62187717
>"the principle that Internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of the source, and without favoring or blocking particular products or websites."
If you "knew" what NN was so god damn well you'd know it's the exact fucking opposite of censorship you retard. Quit lying larpbot 3000, you hopped on Breitbart and are now regurgitating whatever talking points were presented.

>>62187740
It's fine when there are a bunch of rich Chinese kids looking for a place and the supply is limited.

>>62185707
I'm not into American politics, but basically republicans = the high middle-class/corporations who are only self-serving

vs

democrats = everyone else?

>>62187749
>Harrassment isn't free speech, SHIT THE SUPREME COURT HAS BEEN CENSORING AMERICA FOR YEARS!

>>62187754
Lmao you think the rhetoric is what would actually entail. You sweet naive child.

>>62187774
Democrats pander to Mexicans and blacks, nobody else. They don't like white people.

>>62185573
Whats funny is this is exactly what TWC did to League of Legends servers

blocked them then tried to strong arm Riot into giving TWC more money

non american here

can this have consequences for my internet too
i dont want to have to have my bandwith limited to sites

>>62187787
Come on, quote the part of any Net Neutrality bill, legislation, in which, contradicted that statement.

>>62187799
But there are millions of white democrats.

>>62187799
but half of mexicans are white

>>62187799
And republicans pander to jews. Speaking of which, it's been a while since another war for Israel has been declared.

>>62187813
The fact that wired and wireless would have different rulesets.

>>62187822
Well they don't pander to them. They bashed white people to the point of which they just said fuck you and voted Republican.

>>62187834
Mexicans are not white.

>>62187836
They are allied with Israel, but Dems suck Palestine's cock. They both pander to garbage.

>>62187774
it is self-serving vs provide us the benefits

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>>62185593
AMERIKKKA YES

>>62187864
>some shitty photoshop

>>62187858
>Mexicans are not white.
mexican or hispanic for that matter isn't a race

>>62187805
nah carriers don't really do this joke stuff

the "wifi zone"-type of internet is applicable to home users

>>62187858
/pol/ loves the palestinians because they hate jews

>>62187845
>Qoute
I didn't ask for a paraphrase Larpbot, since your so well in tune with the legislative side of Net Neutrality it should be quite easy to find, within the proposed legislation.

>>62187877
true, mexicans are mixed race

>>62187873
>He doesn't know it's real

>>62187861
A chunk of my paycheck goes to the government which is supposed to look out for the people. Basically a charity.

Why the hell would I then want said government to be self-serving?

>>62187882
Nah, /pol/ loves Israel since they hate Muslims more than they hate the Jews.

>>62187884
Title 2 would make isps subject to interstate commence laws and would be legally required to block illegal content.

>>62187906
I didn't mean it this way: Rich people vote for lower taxes. They are serving themselves (and not "the community") when they vote like that - the voters, and the businesses on the republican platform, have this in common.

>>62187897
some are
half are white
and even the mixed ones will start calling themselves white soon enough - it's like with the irish, the sicilians etc.
and it will happen more and more

>>62187925
What's left of the old /pol/ see an ally in those who hate israel be it the palestinians or syria.

>>62186734
>>62186748
I am too but when all these dumb changes that WILL effect people on a day to day basis (Especially this internet bullshit) are all political, then you can't help it. And I mean you truly can't, I don't care either but when these things effect me daily that's where it comes from. Politics is what runs a country. Why can't I find a decent job? Outsourced to immigrants who work cheap because they don't know better/are thankful for anything. Why are they brought in? Politics
etc.
I hate it, believe me.

Left wingers were setting up to censor the internet from the nazi hysteria. You hear those chants about how free speech shouldn't come with no consquences? Yeah... It's all the Republicans fault, amirite?

>>62187938
illegal content being things like CP

>>62187925
>they hate Muslims more than they hate the Jews.
no we fucking don't
>jews
>control everything at the end of the day
>muzzies
>redpilled objectively speaking when it comes to women, gays and degeneracy

>>62187973
>we

>>62187963
Or hate speech or cyber bullying if a law like that got passed.

>>62187617
The Chinese also have near zero food regulations. It's how people can cook with gutter oil(fat they extract from sewers for their cooking oil) and put plastics in food. But muh regulations, amirite?

>>62185573
I don't even need to read the thread to see you rightcucks going >reddit

>>62187977
None of that is illegal

>if a law like that got passed
there are no hate speech laws that say "you're not allowed to say/post/write that"

Cyberbullying is already against the law on its own basis and accord, you can already be arrested and charged with cyberbullying where the state law exists like in New York where its a misdemeanor

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>>62187864
/pol/ is the JIDF you goy

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>>62187973
i respect you for admitting you are very muslim like
in more than one way

meanwhile us liberals are disappearing
it's sad really
future belongs to you and muslims

you win

>>62187963
>Net Neutrality legislation isn't neutral because they'd be required to block Child Porn.
Is this seriously the argument you're going with LarpBot?

>>62187268
my netflix on HD buffered lately

ISP is the threat

>>62188006
Because she didn't get elected. You have to look at the whole picture. It was being setup to be a perfect storm of internet censorship with liberal allies like fb and Google ready. They still went ahead

>>62188023
I wasn't who ever you were originally replying to but attacking and blocking CP is a good thing in our modern culture.

>>62188037
Hardly

blocking CP is far from any kind of free speech impairment at all, they're mutually exclusive.

>>62188041
This is pointless unless tor is banned.
It's like the war on drugs.
If there's a demand there will always be a supply no matter how hard you try to block or ban it.

>>62188073
good luck banning shit like tor thats already a huge FBI honey pot.

If you're going to the "dark web" you aren't doing it with shitty tools like Tor

>>62187973
The rope will get you too, don't you worry.

>>62188041
My bad.
>>62188037
The classic, b-b-but Hillary conspiracies, in which, magically forget the Supreme Court exists.

>>62188059
thing is, if there are blocklists blocking off everything, you will never know what they were blocking

>>62188023
No thats just an example. ISP wouldn't be as tolerant would do more deep packet inspection since they would be held accountable. Its funny you calling me a larpbot when you leftypol or shareblue types are the ones who start these threads daily trying to force a group consensus.

1. NN politicizes the internet too much
2. History shows that only governments are able to censor in totality
3. NN would grant FCC much more regulatory power

>>62188098
No thats just a baseless slippery slope
>omg they're blocking CP they'll block me saying I have a contradictory opinion

>>62188097
and how is that any different than libtard conspiracies where ISPs blocks sites which have much less basis in reality

>>62187999
>The Chinese also have near zero food regulations.

But that's not true you lying retard. They have pretty standard food safety laws that were introduced around ten years ago.

>>62188111
Either you get butt fucked by an accountable government or by an unaccountable corporation, pick one.

>>62188137
>government
>accountable
please share with me whatever you are smoking

>>62188153
>corporation
>accountable
please share with me whatever you are smoking

>>62188087
pedos don't really care if their net is dark. What they care about is their childporn loading up

>>62188159
>forced to conduct business with corporations

please dont chief pass it already

>>62188168
they do if they don't want to get caught

and if they don't want to get caught they aren't using Tor

>>62188182
you're so fucking naive if you think that a corporation is magically better and that some corporate shithole making money off your shit is somehow got your best interests at hand

>>62188111
The classic baseless slippery slope, every god damn developed on the country on earth I'm sure expects ISP's to block websites, in which, contain Child Porn, now move the fuck on.

>>62188133
Yeah that's why companies keep getting caught putting foul shit into food products in China. I dare you to eat some food from a chinese food stand in a poor part of the country you little shit.

>>62188087
>shitty tools like Tor
Tor is fine though. It's yet to be exploited.
What you're referring to is the tor browser.

>>62188207
>its yet to be exploited
I'd call a Honeypot pretty compromised at that point

>>62188182
Corporations can't be held accountable without government, no matter how much muh free market lolbergs go on about

PEOPLE, PLEASE! Let's think rationally here.

It's not the government or the corporations that you should be pointing your fingers at as to who is ruining society and the internet as we know it. It the Jews who we should be blaming!

>>62188213
Yet no one has gotten busted for using tor with proper Opsec yet. It was all user error.

You do realize millions are using tor RIGHT NOW for CP, right? Why isn't the honey pot working? Isn't it supposed to prevent this? hmm

>>62188191
I don't think corporations are better just that they have less incentive to censor.

>>62188241
>Yet no one has gotten busted for using tor with proper Opsec yet. It was all user error.
Yea they have, the NSA and FBI isn't going to come out and tell you "yea we caught a guy doing illegal shit with our Tor Honeypot" because if the bad guys know how they're getting caught then they won't do what ever it is that gets them caught.

this is why the NSA never tells you "we stopped a terrorist today because of the backdoor in his iphone" because any other terrorist will stop using iphones.

Its incredibly naive to assume and believe the fact that you haven't heard of it happening that it isn't happening at all

>millions are using Tor for CP and haven't been caught
little do you know (let alone provide a source for those "millions) they are going to get caught

>honeypot
>meant to prevent
a honeypot doesn't prevent shit, its meant to trap

>>62188200
It's not a slippery slope there are countries actively censoring the internet of wrongthink like China.

>>62188257
>I don't think corporations are better just that they have less incentive to censor.
what are you talking about? they have every incentive to censor, google censors your search results, facebook streams and gives you things that it thinks you wants not what you actually want. Twitter and Facebook censor your posts until hours or days after you post them from showing up for other people.

>>62188123
it's not that much about contradictory opinions as it is about a lack of transparency
you don't know what they have blocked since the filters for the worst stuff are not published.

If you want the government to keep a list of blocked sites, you're essentially approving of them shaping the internet and society

>>62185593
>>62185621
>>62185630
Replace Reddit with 4chan.org. How are you able to shitpost on /pol/ now?

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>>62188191
>and if they don't want to get caught they aren't using Tor

it depends on the security standars the pedo has.

some pedos even use the clearnet.

>>62188297
the same way facebook and twitter censor shit then except on a far more fluid manner

>>62188224
See
>>62187864

>>62188306
Even better. I will be free again after all.

>>62188314
Can't be helped when /pol/ retards keep coming here and spouting bullshit.

>>62188287
And all those are deep state assets with cia backing

Everything seems wrong with how NN and everything around it is framed as an issue. Nobody seems to actually know what the end result will be regardless of who "wins" and nobody can construct their argument without making gross assumptions about the other side.

I think the core of the problem is service monopolies. Any of this shit is a result of corporations being able to monopolize an area of service. This includes ISPs and content providers.

>>62188137
The only elected position in the executive branch is the President. Heads of regulatory agencies can be changed but the people underneath aren't likely to change.
Corporations still have their customers and liabilities to worry about.

>>62188200
But there are separate laws prohibiting the distribution of that shit already. The question is if the ISP is responsible for the transport of it over their network instead of just the source and the receiver.

>>62188257
But we just had numerous examples of companies censoring people for having the wrong thoughts.

>>62187645
>The ISPs can just introduce a new rule that bans VPNs
Even chink goverment with billions spent on GFW and help from Cisco corp cant block obfuscated or protocol morphing vpns like >>62187506 modified versions of openvpn, meek, lantern, etc.
>>62187701
A then what? It will scary off some people but there is no way to detect such vpns if user are not an idiot.
>>62187689
>russian-censorship-law-bans-proxies-and-vpns
>while russian fed tv are teaching ukranians how to use vpn's to watch russia-today and use vk
They will ban major vpn's by ip and dns just like they do with opposition, torrent and gambling sites but it wont be even close to china situation. Putin don't have enough money for the country wide DPI. His only option is to completely isolate russian internet from the rest of the world.

>>62188159
luckily the internal rules of the corporation are not law

of course most people will trade away their freedom for comfort

>>62188276
>China
>Developed
>Implying China has EVER had free speech
>Comparing the legal/political systems of the US and China.
K

>>62188347
Don't count the days.
Don't count the miles.
Just count the number shitposters you kill.
Kill the shitposters invaders.
Kill the shitposters invaders.
Kill the shitposters invaders.

>>62188349
>Moving the goalposts

>>62188275
It's naive to think this is happening and not being reported.

If they're taking the person to court, the FBI has to legally document how said person was caught. Why do you think half of the cases were dropped when they used the NIT exploit?
Because they refused to disclose how it worked.

> they are going to get caught
A few hundred low hanging fruit and major distributors, yes.

>a honeypot doesn't prevent shit, its meant to trap
It's not trapping anyone.
The ones being busted are fucking up themselves.

>>62188362
>luckily the internal rules of the corporation are not law
you're right they aren't

The government censors to its interests

the company censors for any and every reason it wants because its not illegal for them to censor in any way they possibly could.

A government agency can't say "you're not allowed to say those kinds of opinions"

A company just bans you, blocks you, deletes your shit because they can and theres nothing stopping them

>>62187645
>It just means everyone will be forced to buy VPN's.
So now you pay for your Internet twice.

>>62188339
yes, facebook/twitter/google can not be trusted

the good news is: you don't have to use them

If the internet gets blocklists, it's a bit like filtering the air

>>62188404
Yep, that's the reality we face if dumbasses let this shit pass.

Though most VPN's are only like $5~15 a month.

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>>62185593
Ha.

>>62188394
yep, and you could get some dial up thing and continue posting, because, it is not illegal

>>62188364
From China's constitution
>Citizens of the People's Republic ofChinaenjoy freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, of association, of procession, and of demonstration

>>62187774
Republicans = Corporate overlords + all the unwashed masses they've convinced to live in fear of muslims, gays, feminists, progress, blacks, jews, communists or whatever the current bogey man is.

>>62188381
They are advocates for Network Neutrality yet are actively censoring free speech. crazy how that works.

>>62188439
A constitution is fucking meaningless without a strong history of separation the powers within Government, China HAS NEVER HAD THAT, the US has had that since day 1. It is much harder for a strong man figure to arise in the USA due to all the balances and checks on power, both legal and social, in which, are put upon the members of the Government.

>>62185639
How much of a retard can you be?

>>62188440
Why did the telecom industry donate 26 million to HRC?

>>62187459
>Uses a strawman to justify a point
You know you can be libertarian and be against both gov't and corporations abusing your rights? I mean, the best way to do that is to shrink the size and reach of the gov't and make said corporations less able to affect gov't policy.

>>62187747
Because it would help them in their crusade to sanitize the Internet if they were given more power over the Internet

>>62187582
Having only a few choices between corporations if any is an illusion of choice

>>62188545
Appeasement? With Republicans they don't really have to go further than a few dinners with the pretty lobbyist boys.

>>62185811
Made you reply :^)

>>62185869
What's D.A.D.?

>>62185639
i dunno kike boi why you greedy?

>>62188545
To protect the nuclear codes!

Jokes on them, fatty bankrupt cant read big numbers.

>>62188641
This is possibly the dumbest post on the thread. At least we're expensive whores, goy! I'd only accept NN if the telecoms were classified as utilities and we were in control of ICANN to protect this shit with DNS recently.

If taking this away kills Google's profits, good. If it creates incentive for people to work on mesh networks or other alternatives to the current net infrastructure, even better.

>>62189501
Trump has never gone bankrupt, but I know you're a retard who doesn't understand the difference between personal and corporate bankruptcy. Also using fatty is hilarious from the blue haired cat lady party that pushed Hillary.

>>62185573
how can this be even applied? there are active 10s of millions of websites, many of them are not managed by companies or americans, how can american ISPs pay a website managed by some guy in Ukraine?

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>>62186917
>/G
You're making my point for me.

>>62186337
Why would the right choose cede power to left wing companies?

>>62189834
they just won't pay the guy in ukraine obviously

>>62189954
you are responding to a polfag, polfag
are you too stupid to realize that or are you just doing it on purpose

latter is worse

government regulation is good
taxes are good

government formed society
name a successful country with no government regulation and no taxes

>>62189834
An ISP is the source to the internet if that ISP is your provider

they can block any and everything the same way TWC blocked League of Legends servers or AT&T blocked skype

>>62188111
>1. NN politicizes the internet
it doesn't, you politicize too much on the internet

>>62189267
nigger detected

>>62190092
That's the problem nn hopes to correct. Goyim think they can express ideas freely. We need to shut it down!

>>62185639
Because it literally happens 100% of the time every time.

If a company is not utilizing every legal dick move to increase profits then they can be sued by shareholders.

In pretty sure liberals are the ones shutting shit down nice try shill.

>>62190294
no, it doesn't

>>62190373
>pretty sure
Weasle words for "I don't really know but I like to think so".

>>62191382
>"I can't come up with a counterargument"

>>62185639
Are you actually saying that companies exist for anything other than Jewing? Because you have to be underage or literally insane to think that. Companies are made to gain profit, not to benefit the people.

>>62189925
You clearly don't have one to start off with.

>>62185639
would you not fuck over everyone for money if you had the power to?

>>62190062
>Gov't regulation is good
The regulations that protect workers and consumers are good yes. But the regulations that put ridiculously hefty fines on startups for minor infractions are stifling the economy, as they were intended to by the corporations that lobbied for them in order to reduce competition.

>Taxes are good
Taxes are good, but having the highest tax rate in the world is sad. It reduces the ability of entrepreneurs to grow their business and unfairly burdens the middle class, when these corporations that operate here often dodge them due to loopholes in the tax code. Lessen the tax code for the middle class and raise it on the corporations and put moderate tarriffs on them in order to actually help the economy

>government formed society
Bullshit. There were colonists in the US before we formed our own gov't. Likewise, there is always some society present before a gov't is formed. Government is byproduct of society, not vice versa. Also, just because it is the case that every successful gov't had gov't regulation to a minimal extent and a reasonably low taxes doesn't go on and not prove America has been faltering from heavy handed gov't regulation be idiots in various bureaus that perform the same function, massive corporate influence in our gov't and the highest tax rate in the world, preventing our economy from growing further

>>62185573
When you order a small drink, do you complain that it's not as big as the large drink you didn't pay for? Do you call on the government to force others to subsidize large drinks for everyone just because you feel entitled to an unlimited amount of cola irrespective of what you paid?

>>62191624
"Companies" are mostly normal people. One in eight Americans are entrepreneurs.

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>>62185573
>americucks have to pay for the internet, pay extra to actually use it and then pay more to access websites

I legit feel bad for you faggots

>>62185593
fpbp