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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread: >>62162499
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>>62183195
Reminder:
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>no thread up when I wake up
Wow finally.
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>>62183276
there has been a thread for like 2 hours

delete this duplicate
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>>62183293
What are you talking about?
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>>62183251
K712 sounds like watermelon and malaria.
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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?
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>>62183368
HD 600s sound like no bass and no soundstage :^)
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>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
jdslabs Element
>Type of headphone
Whatever
>Open or closed
Whatever
>Comfort level
Whatever
>Sound signature
Surprise me
>Past headphones
Elear, LCD2, HD600, DT880, PM3
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>>62183385
Incorrect; this has been debunked.
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>>62183381
Pic + timestamp
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>>62183391
SHP9500S
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>>62183391
SHP9500S
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>>62183402
Feel free to post headphones you own :^)
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>>62183370
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>>62183251
>>62183451
t.Jaquon
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>>62183503
Feel free to post headphones you own :^)
>>62183451
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>>62183421
>>62183422
I already have neutral headphones. I'm looking for something strange/unique.
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>>62183541
Grado SR80e?
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>>62183590
I've always wanted to try grados so maybe I'll go with those.
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>>62183633
SR60e sound essentially identical for less.
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I have fidelio x2, been thinking about getting a pair of LCD-2. I'm wondering if it's worth getting though since i've only got a FIIO E18 as a dac/amp or if i should wait and upgrade the rest of my gear first?
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What are some good headphones for recording/mixing/mastering rock and metal?
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>>62183897
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
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>>62183755
Get the headphones. Upgrading your source right now will not benefit you but upgrading headphones will. You can upgrade your source later if it doesn't get loud enough for you.
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>>62183968
aight, sounds reasonable. Any recommendations for upgrades i can do later that are good for these cans?
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>>62184004
Schiit Stack or O2/ODAC are the standard choices. I don't find the LCD-2 to be that hard to drive though. Tbh a fulla 2 worked just fine for me.
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Headphone jack on my computer just broke down and i thought that it would be good time to upgrade my audio system.
>Looking for
AMP/DAC
>Budget
250€
>Location
Finland
>Source
Computer
>Type of headphone
Sennheiser HD600
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>Budget: >90 [currency]
>Location: Europe
>Source: Phone (Sony)

>Type of headphone
Active Noise Cancellin

>Sound signature: doesnt matter, but nothing too bass heavy


I'm asking uh... for a friend
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>>62182221 actual thread
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>>62184420
>>62176322 actual thread
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>>62184420
>>62184498
>>62171973 Real, legitimate thread
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I'm broke as hell and my current earphones' left side is about to die, so I'm looking for a recommendation before I pull the trigger on the same model I've been using for years

>Budget
$15 max
>Location
Mexico
>Source
3.5mm Jack
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter that much as long as I don't feel that 69 niggers are raping my ear canals
>Sound signature
Bassy, though neutral would be nice, too
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-EX15LP, the ones I am currently using, and some crappy Vorago on-ear headset. Vorago HP-300, I think.

I looked around a bit and it seems that an alternative to the MDR-EX15LP are the Panasonic RPJHE120R, but some reviews say the cable is flimsy as hell.
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>Budget
100-150€, shouldn't be much higher
>Location
Finland, hinta.fi and hintaseuranta.fi are pretty good for comparing Finnish prices, but European sites are fine as well (Amazon has been pretty good in the past (.de, .fr, .co.uk))
>Source
PC/Phone, mostly for home use
>Type of headphone
Full-sized, preferably over-ear
>Open or closed
I'd like them to be open, but closed is fine as well
>Comfort level
As long as I can wear them for long periods of time without experiencing discomfort, anything is fine
>Sound signature
V-shaped or neutral
>Past headphones
Haven't had expensive headphones before, or even full-sized for that matter. I've used Sennheiser CX300II's before and am currently using MEMT X5's, liked both considering what I paid for them once I fucked around with an equalizer, wish the sound stage and separation would've been a bit better.
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Somewhat related, what's a good USB powered speaker?
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>get Schiit stack
>connect via USB
>install drivers
>getting huge DCP lag and signal noise
>optical works fine and dandy
Why is USB so SHIT? The controllers (Jewtel, anyone?) are crap, the ports are fragile, there's latency all over...

Why is JewSB so widely used when it's so bad?
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Posted this last thread but didn't get any real responses.

What do you guys think of the DT 1990 pros?

I've had a pair of DT770s for a couple years and really love them but I'm looking to step up to something a little nicer and open or semi-open. Since I love my 770s so much the 1990 seems perfect but are there any better options?
A couple I've been looking at are HD650 and Audioquest nighthawk
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>>62185012
Try each one yourself and choose which sound best if you have access to the headphones
>>62177601
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>>62185072
I would if I could. Literally nowhere around me to try the HD650s or DT1990s. Crutchfield has the nighthawks in stock and they're shipping a set to my local store so I can try them out but out of luck on the others.
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>>62185175
DT 1990 Pros sound like more refined DT 990s. HD 650s are HD 600s with more mid-bass bloat and less treble, if you've listened to them before.
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>>62185175
>>62185232
The 1990s have the build advantage, but the 650s aren't too bad either. No idea about AudioQuest
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>>62184831
The HJE-120? It costs all of 8 dollars, I don't remember any particular build issues. Mind you, no one is going to bother to reinforce these low end models.
What does the 1More Piston Classic go for in your area?

>>62183755
Why the LCD-2?

>>62185012
>DT1990
It's not very much like the DT770. But a different question, what don't you like about the DT770?
I get the sense you aren't sure what you are looking for. It would be helpful if you experimented with a parametric equalizer to figure out your preferred signature.

In that line of thinking, sine sweeps are useful to figure out annoying peaks and dips in the response. Hit them with a peaking filter.
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>>62185309
>1MORE Piston Classic
That model goes for $20, but doesn't seem to have any stock locally nor internationally...
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>>62185309
>what don't you like about the DT770
Nothing really. If I had one complaint it'd be the closed back. They have a pretty good soundstage for a closed headphone but its still not quite the same. Mostly though I've just had them for forever and feel like getting something new.
Generally I like V shaped signatures. Something with pretty good tight bass but not too overwhelming, OK mids that aren't completely drowned out, and nice clear highs that aren't completely piercing. Neutral is OK too.

>It's not very much like the DT770
In what way? From what I've seen so far most people say it's similar in that it has a similar sound signature but its open back so has the expected changes with that and sounds better overall due to the better drivers.
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Who here a cassette bro?
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>>62185519
I sure hope you're using Type 2 tapes with that.
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Best replacement pads for MDR-V6?
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>>62185555
>V6
How do you put up with the circumaural design on these?
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>>62185550
Sure do
>when you got that pro pure audio on deck
Also nr-c
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>>62185519
Well, I have this old piece of shit from way back then
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>>62185647
>nr-c
Nice
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>>62185579

Idk nigga they seem comfy enough
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>>62183962
>worse than HD600
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>>62184833
HD579
>>62184831
HJE120, it's comfy as fuck.
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>>62185012
The response calling them shitty retard treble cannons was a real response. That's what they are, factually and objectively. You asked a question but would clearly prefer a positive response to a truthful one.
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>>62185971
Anon has listened to the DT 990s, anon. I'm pretty sure he knows. Kek. Imagine a "v-shaped" headphone with no treble
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>>62185954
They're almost the same price as the MDR-EX15LP, so I'll give them a try, thanks
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soup /hpg/

I have a pair of Steelseries Siberia gayming headphones that are starting to fall apart. Would like to upgrade to something durable and repairable that'll last me 5-10 years. Think I'd like an open design so I'm not totally unaware of the outside world (aware enough to listen for the doorbell, or hear if my girlfriend says something in the room). Going to use a Shure SM58 with an interface for my new mic.

Looking for something reasonably budget, $150 and under only. Would feel comfortable in the $90-100 range.
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>>62185971
>>62186005
>Shitty retard treble cannons
Anon prefers v-shaped. If you have a better recommendation at the same price, go for it
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>>62186057
This is literally worse than a DT990 for a lot more money. If he insists on V-shaped a DT990 would be a much smarter purchase.
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>>62185954
Thanks Anon, HD579s look pretty good
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>>62186155
You can not perfectly tell what a headphone is going to sound like just by looking at frequency response graphs. If anon is able to, which he currently isn't, he should listen to them himself and compare
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Alright guys!

I have a budget of 200 for a headset.

I need the best of the best.
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What would be the cheapest way to control volume to my powered studio monitors?

I don't want to use the PC/Windows volume control since it degrades audio quality on low volume.
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>>62186235

Apple Airpods
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>>62186219
Your image is worthless without a compensation curve. >>62186155 is a raw measurement which clearly shows ludicrous amounts of treble. A headphone has serious problems when any frequency is louder than the ~3 kHz ear resonance.
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>>62186235
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
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>>62186290
So, like DT 990s, correct?
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>>62186155
>>62186290
>Raw
Here are the HD 600s for a comparison
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>>62186319
DT990 is not a good headphone, but I meant it when I said DT1990 is literally worse for more money.
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>>62186389
You seem bias to neutral headphones. Are there any better v-shaped headphones for either of the price points?
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>>62186366
I don't know what point you're trying to make. The ~3 kHz resonance is supposed to be there on >>62186366 and >>62186155 as accurate headphones will have a large resonance at ~3 kHz. The large 9 kHz peak on >>62186155 is not supposed to be there.
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>>62186275
Schiit sys
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>>62183251
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>>62186405
I'm not telling the guy who prefers V-shape to not buy DT990. I'm telling him not to buy DT1990 because it's literally worse than the less expensive DT990. Let me quote him:
>and nice clear highs that aren't completely piercing
>that aren't completely piercing
>>62186155 is not an example of a measurement of highs that "aren't completely piercing."
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>>62186439
Always feel free :^)
>>62183537
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>>62186471
Maybe you should follow your own advice
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>>62186508
Silly anon, i'm not the one disagreeing! Surely, you must have at least half-decent cans, right?
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>>62186439
K712 eternally BTFO.
>mud = 250 to 500 Hz
It's literally a muddier version of Beats by Dre.
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>>62186559
Literally tinny and veiled mudcannons.
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>>62186559
>>62186595
Feel free to post your headphones and compare them to each other. If you own AKGs and Sennheisers, that's even better! Even poor ol' anon did it!
>>62180697
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>>62186551
No, currently have 558/k240/m40x. still making final decisions on HD600 and others, which is why I'm here. I don't need to own $300 headphones to post a graph. And it seems like you don't own decent headphones either
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>>62186625
t.Sharquay
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>>62186634
Kek. No wonder you never replied!
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>>62186640
Feel free! Even ol' anon did so!
>>62186634
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>>62186652 >>62186675
I did reply. Feel free to post your headphones
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>>62186707
My headphones are staying a secret :^)

Are you sure you own what you're claiming to own? I don't see a pic + timestamp of any of the headphones. Or were they bought used and all banged up? :)
>>62186634
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>>62185550
>2017
>Not using Type IV
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>>62186722
>My headphones are staying a secret :^)

>secretly doesn't own any
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>>62183195
Why isn't she wearing shoes? She's clearly outside at a metro station.
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>>62186787
>Still no pic + timestamp
>Inb4 $10 shitbuds
I wouldn't blame you though, if you knew how to eq
:^)
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>>62186470
I haven't seen a single person who has actually heard the 1990s call the highs piercing.

Nor have frequency response graphs ever been very accurate at actually letting you know how a particular headphone will sound.
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>>62186812
>>Still no pic + timestamp
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>>62186879
Correct! I'm still waiting :)
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>>62186770
Type IV is really amazing, some decks can record from 15hz up to 22khz using type IV tape.
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>>62186707
>Anon samefags too
Oh man!
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>>62186887
post your secret headphones
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>>62186956
Thank you! But headphones are staying a secret :^)

Hope you get out of your poorfag situation and didn't buy all those headphones all at once. Isn't it easy to ask for something and give nothing in return?
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>>62186861
The nice thing about objective data is it isn't subject to confirmation bias or post purchase rationalization.
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>>62186999
>Heard = purchased
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>>62187014
"Heard" is subject to confirmation bias.
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>>62186770
No one is making new type 4 tapes anymore. The ones you get of ebay and the like are NOS.
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>>62187058
Confirmation bias aside, there is a huge difference in measuring raw frequency response of a driver and actually wearing a pair of headphones that have been built around that driver to make it sound good when its on a persons head.

If flat frequency response graphs made good headphones every manufacturer could easily do that.
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>>62187115
It's very disingenuous and likely intentionally misleading of you to suggest that measurements don't correlate well with actual perceived response. They do.
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>>62183251
why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>62187199
This general keeps me running :)
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>>62185007
I've never had a problem with mine. The only annoying thing was that the modi didn't come with a usb cable, fucking jews.
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Shhh! The Sennshills are napping right now.
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>>62187171
They give you a pretty good general idea of the sound signature, but you can't look at a raw frequency response graph and say the highs will be piercing. The design of the headphones can easily change it from "piercing" to "detailed" when you actually listen to them.
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Cassette Bro(and other analog media) thread >>62176322
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>>62187245
>Turns the wrong way
>Snaps
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>>62187269
Treble =/= detail. Quick transient response = detail.
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>>62186625
Already had this discussion with you and posted my headphones, and of course you didn't reply back to me. The 600's and 650's are both better than the k712. The 712 is quite good in general though.
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Reminder to EQ and to listen at proper volume or you will not actually be hearing neutral.

https://youtu.be/a-JGAobDwGs?t=11m52s
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>>62187285
You only posted your HD 600s though?
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>>62187297
So, I have nothing left of my k712 because I sold it after trying out a pair of 600's. The 712 has more bass but the 600 is better in every other way. You could make an argument for the 712's looking nicer but who gives a shit.
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>>62187354
I asked for proof the last two times. You didn't reply to any
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>>62187292
oops meant to link this time

https://youtu.be/a-JGAobDwGs?t=11m4s
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>>62187366
I posted my 600's, I literally have nothing else because I don't want or need multiple headphones. I love how you think it's impossible for someone to think that the 600 is better than the 712. I bought them from ebay, they were made in slovakia I think and they came with a nice faux suede bag. I really like them but the 600's are better. Most people in general prefer the 600.
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>>62187354
Actually the HD600 looks better no argument. It looks like a cheap Halloween toy.
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>>62185309
Why lcd-2?
it's not really decided, but right now it's either hd-800 or lcd-2. I've heard that details are more present in the 800's but that the sound is more "natural" in the lcd-2. That the lcd-2 has a warmer tone with a deeper bass. isn't this true?
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Phrases to filter for a shit post free /hpg/ experience:

dear anon
timestamp
snap
:^)
:)
;)
t.
What is the second best headphone
no bass
nobass
ear rape
earrape
no mids
nomids
no treble
debunked
poorly sealed
samefag
proof
poorfag
poverty
walmart
tinny and veiled

Am I forgetting anything?
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>>62187413
I like the look of both desu. The bars running acros the top look fucking retarded though, though the system works nice enough.
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>>62187398
So, nothing? If I claimed DT 990s sounded better than Focal Elears but said I sold the latter, would you believe me?
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>>62187429
Plebspotter
600
650
dt990
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>>62183391
TFZ-5S
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>>62187429
Objective
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>>62187446
Possibly, that would depend on your actual behavior. You can see that I'm not shitposting or baiting and I'm actually praising the 712's. Look at my pic, the two on the left literally came with my old 702 and k712, that's why they're screw on. Compare them to the one that came with yours.
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>>62187556
I believe you :)
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>>62187579
Good, if that's actually you. The 712 are my third fav headphone behind the 650 and 600 and the 702 are probably my 4th.. I really like them but not as much as those two. Nothing I have tried has come close to the 650, nevermind the 600 imo.
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>>62187631
>tfw when I just got killed by someone called snap600 on bf1 for the ps4

uwotm8
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>>62187283
>let me completely skip over the point of the comment and argue about semantics
I'll put it another way, if frequency response was all that mattered, changing the ear pads on headphones would do nothing to the sound.
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>>62187770
Changing the ear pads on headphones usually changes the frequency response, sometimes quite dramatically.
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>>62186983
>he thinks the anon can only have 3 headphones
If you read his earlier post he is deciding on future headphones to own. If your headphones are really that great then why hide them? Anon might look into those instead of meme cans.

...If you actually own any.
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>>62187818
He's only here to shitpost and decrease the SNR of these threads. Probably owns some really shitty headphones. Just ignore him next time.
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>>62186801
She is stepping on the bench, the shoes are probably on the floor, there's no rule but it's polite not to put your shoes where people sit, who knows what you might have stepped on.
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>>62186956
Pic related, use it on travels (specially when i don't have enough room in the backpack for bigger headphones or don't want to take something expensive to somewhere i don't know), have an EQ setting for it on the sansa clip, no stage at all, but it get's flat enough and isolates well. It's rather cheap too.
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>>62183195
So lads, the zs5. Why aren't more people talking about them here? They're the best iem I have tried by far. Anyone not actually like them? if so what other cheap iem competes with them? I already have the grey color but I might get a red or black zs6 when they get cheaper.
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>>62187368
There's been a critique of his argument I could make that I've put off for a very long time.
I haven't been particularly motivated to elaborate on it. If you keep bugging me, I might write something.
PDR errors can be seen in free air measurements. This will comes from mutlpathing of the pinna. IHL can be done even for narrowband noise and sinusoid wave bursts.

To put it simply, I find Griesinger's interpretation of measured results and of the papers from Theile and Moller to be extremely problematic.


>>62187414
That is a property of respective their transfer functions, which you do have an ability to compensate for. As it would happen, the LCD-2 and HD800 are some of the better baseline sets to work with.

As for LCD-2 being warmer, I'm not so sure. It doesn't have the ~6kHz rise on the HD800, but it does have more of a rise further up into the treble. People usually don't mind that type of boost so much, and they call it airy or open or something.
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>>62186595
There is something ridiculously wrong with FR graph on headroom you are posting. I made selection with HD600 and some other, similar to k712 AKG headphones, and only headphone that deviates from "norm" this badly is k712. I don't think this is correct, because k712 are supposed to be a slight improvement (more bass) over k702, which is clearly not the case here. I think headroom fucked up somehow here.
I'm not trying to defend k712, I have never even owned or listened to k712 (did to k612 and 702, both very good headphones, better than widely shilled here HD598) and I don't really give a fuck about your childish fights over best brand. Just trying to point this out, because there is clearly something very wrong going on.
Pic related, excuse png.
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>>62188881
>>62187414
LCD-2 is dry af without EQ. The warm buttery sound you always hear about is either pre-fazor or fazor with a bass boost. It's why the LCD-2 + iDSD / iCAN SE are often sold and bought together.
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HD 600 OR 650?

I do like a bit more bass in my music. Is it worth spending the extra for a 650?
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>>62189415
The 600 is better, it's even better with a tiny sub bass boost. Either way, I'm sure you would be happy. Maybe go for the 650 if you care about bass that much. They're both amazing and similar.
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>>62183195
I'm getting a lot of noise through my USB DAC, should I get a 25-30 euro internal soundcard just to get SPDIF?
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>>62185072
>>62185309
>>62185971
Well more responses but nothing really helpful. I'm gonna guess nobody here has actually tried them based on these responses.

With all the comments on the treble, what's /hpg/s opinion on the Amiron home? Supposed to be a milder 1990
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>>62183195
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
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>>62189338
>dry af
Define "dry".
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>>62189616
>I'm getting a lot of noise through my USB DAC
What usb dac is that? A decent one should have a black floor.
>should I get a 25-30 euro internal soundcard just to get SPDIF?
Check in your motherboard model specs web page. Your board likely has an internal SPDIF header. A bracket to expose it will cost you like $5 on aliexpress.
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>>62186595
>>62186634
>Sennheiser shill does not actually own HD 600s
Why does this not surprise me?
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>>62189415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR34WTjYt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY
Do the right thing, Anon!
(protip: HD600)
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>>62189725
>What usb dac is that? A decent one should have a black floor.

It's the LINDY USB DAC & Headphone Amp: https://www.lindy.co.uk/audio-video-c2/converters-scalers-c105/usb-dac-headphone-amp-p2740

I am feeding it into a Nobsound Mini 6J9 Vacuum & Valve Tube Headphone Amplifier.

The noise seems to be when the PC is making particular program noise: when loading a website or playing a game.

Check in your motherboard model specs web page. Your board likely has an internal SPDIF header. A bracket to expose it will cost you like $5 on aliexpress.

Gigabyte H61MA-D3V
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>>62185516
I have nothing to offer you about the soundstage, since this hasn't been my experience at all.
The only really noticeable variable that had any apparent effect on soundstage was the magnitude response, which is already known. After attempting to correct for that by EQ, soundstage is unavoidably altered.
I guess you could boil down the difference to open vs. closed though. Less subbass than DT770, doesn't have the low-mid suckout of DT770. I make it seem a lot like the DT990. But more sensitive.

>>62189706
Lack of low midrange boost. Flat response from bass to 1kHz or so. Lacks the bass bump that can makes most open backed moving coil headphones sound unclear.
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>>62189706
Boring. The bass extends low because it's planar but that doesn't mean shit if you can't hear or feel it. It's brighter than you'd think an audeze should be because of the fazor but it lacks the resolution you'd normally get from a brighter headphone. It's just dry and boring stock, it's missing the musicality you expect from the lcd-2.
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Anyone else feel like binaural never sounds as real as people say it does? It makes the imaging great but it still sounds like it's coming from the headphones an inch away.
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>>62189176
>I have never even owned or listened to k712
So you're basing your assumption on fucking nothing. Got it.
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>>62189852
Christ. Looks like some generic AF device, probably a rebranded chink. No specs. What DAC chip does this thing even use? Definitely not very good. And yet 75GBP O_O.
I suggest Schiit Fulla 2. It costs like 50% more than your lindy thing in the EU distributors for schiit, but you'll save yourself a load of trouble.
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>>62189801
>senn shill
So any person who passively mentions the 600 in their post is a shill?
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My PC has separate mic/headphone jacks, but my headphones (Sennheiser 598CS) have a built in mic. If I just plug my headphones into the headphones jack, then my mic doesn't work.

I was gonna get this shit
>https://www.amazon.ca/UGREEN-Headphone-Splitter-Smartphone-Computer/dp/B00Y4663GG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
but I don't even know if it's compatible or not, seems like it isn't. What do I use? SEND HELP
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>>62189687
Back again f.am. tipsy playing moonlight sonata and the main interstellar theme on my midi keyboard ;)
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>>62189852
>Poorly isolated generic usb soundcard.
>75GBP
Don't even bother with the spdif, it's going to be noisy all the same, and noisy even if you power it from some other usb power source. if the USB power is not sanitised properly, your usb soundcard sucks.
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>>62189706
your gfs pussy
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>>62189917
Anon has made multiple graphs such as >>62186595 with the style. I'd link one if I can find one, but a somewhat recent example would be the StrawPoll we had last month
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>>62189933
why wouldn't it be compatible? it's standardized

you could also get a DAC
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>>62189893
>your assumptions
My assumptions about what? I'm saying there is something obviously wrong with headroom k712 FR graph, which is used by shitposters here.
It's pretty fucking obvious when you compare it to other AKG headphones.
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My sister just started to get into music and I want to get her a pair of headphones, from what I saw in her iPod she listens to a bunch of crap (I'm also thinking she might be a /mu/tant) that doesn't really need bass
I am thinking Sennheiser HD 461 since those were my first headphones (just because I never contemplated other options) but would like to know if there is anything better
>Budget
$100 USD
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>>62190031
The seller wrote
>Please be kindly noted that it's only compatible with CTIA standard Android headphones, do NOT compatible with CTIA standard Apple Earbuds.
And reviewer said it wasn't compatible with 598 so I'm concerned. Should I be concerned?
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>>62189947
May I ask which midi keyboard?
Years ago, when I was on my parent's place, I had a shitty behringer thing with non-weighted keys (ouch). I didn't take it with me and do not plan to because it's a waste of space more than else.
At some point I'll be somewhere roomier. Been looking at possibly a Yamaha DGX-660 for then.
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>Budget
~$200 CAD

>Location
Canada

>Type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
No preference

>Comfort level
No preference / prefer quality

>Past headphones
Been running with razer electras for like the past 4-5 years and they're finally starting to die.
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>>62190070
>200 CAD is $160 USD now
it's hurts, canadian bro. I built a PC a few months ago and I got fucking robbed online.
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>>62190070
k712, HD579, k702, HD558, SHP9500S
>Canada
Good luck.
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>>62190108
Same, ended up costing me like $1500 when it would have been $1000 USD
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my earpads are giving off this weird funk even after washing them with soap and water, what am i supposed to do to get rid of this shit
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>>62190147
Stop cumming in them probably.
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>>62190147
it'll probably go away in a few weeks. one time I bought a used headphone off muhammad and it smelled like the strongest cologne ever, but it's fine now
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>>62189852
><$10 chink soundcard from alibaba
>Lindy logo
>£74.99+shipping
Sorry to hear you got chinked.
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>>62189725
Go to >>62189916 >>62189951 >>62190166
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>>62189616
Go to >>62190181
(fail)
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>>62183195
Is this accurate?
I'm not trying to fan the HD600 flames, I am just legitimately shopping for an open back in that range. It seems that either of the 6xx headphones don't have anything on the he400i outside of QC.
What do these graphs read as to you more experienced anons? I am just getting a grip on reading them.
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>>62190066
I started with the M-Audio Key station 49 two years ago (I'm 29) and I upgraded to my pic related. It's semi weighted, so it doesn't feel shit. I like it but I'm sure it's not good compared to an actual piano. I haven't tried one since I was a kid messing around. It definitely feels quality and it's well made. It just won't have that hammer weight quality. The one you want will be more piano like.
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How much better is the Magni 2 and,Modi 2 vs Fulla 2 for HD600?
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What are the pros and cons of the Etymotics HF5 versus MC5? I can get both at the same price (the HF5 is used though).
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>>62190231
>I haven't tried one since I was a kid messing around.
I did a year or so of piano as a choice subject back in high school (been forever). We used bring-your-own-device toy-tier keyboards (mine was some 4-voice casio thing I still have back at parents, operational in good condition like everything mine) but we did exams in a wall piano, which felt so awesome.
Then, at some point, music teacher was kind enough to take us (less than 15 person) somewhere where each of us was able to use a full-sized proper grand-piano for a few minutes.
Let's just say my behringer shit is simply not enough after having tried that ;)
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>>62187292
This video should be added to the OP.
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>>62190209
After comparing the 400i with HD600, I can say the 400i have much less bass than they appear. The 600 sounds bassier, even down to 40hz. The 2K suck out on the HE400i muffles vocals, but at the same time vocals that sound fatiguing or harsh on the HD600 sound more comfortable on the 400i. The 400i is also much brighter in the mid/upper treble and is more sibilant.
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>>62189530
>>62189849
Thanks guys. Time to throw away 500$ maple bux
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>>62190318
I figured I'd have to use EQ on either or but I still think I should pick on their raw performance and the less I have to EQ the better. It's so hard to choose, man.
Maybe I'll just flip a coin.
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>>62190236
>Modi 2
Not at all. It's just a fulla 2 in a bigger case with less functionality at the same price.
>Magni 2
It'll sound better than the fulla 2 near max volume. Exactly the same otherwise. Getting such a volume from the Magni 2 will require you to have your gain switch set to HIGH, which with the HD600 is insane loud anyways.
>the bottomline
Get Fulla 2 if you have nothing. Get Magni 2 if you have a Fulla 2 and you find yourself past 2 o'clock on the volume wheel a lot.
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>>62190236
I owned the hd600 with with the fulla 2 until I realized that it does distort past a certain volume point. I then bought the magni and used my fulla purely as a dac. Honestly, it sounds better to me, especially at higher volumes. I use an EQ but even without one you're mostly pushing distortion city with that amp. I ended up selling my fuilla to buy a modi and complete my stack. I can't say theres any audible improvement there and that's not why i bought it. I just wanted the stack for aesthetic reasons and les cable mess.

To clarify, I think the magni sounds better. The dacs seem the same.
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>>62190347
>I don't like to EQ
HD600's the headphone that will sound the best without EQ, generally speaking (not just against the hifiman).
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>>62190364
The amps were the main thing I was wondering about. I've heard some say the fulla 2 was perfectly fine but then I also hear that the Magni 2 has more power so I was wondering if not just the volume but the sound was better.
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>>62190347
Both are good headphones. You just have to decide if the extra $50 for the 600 is worth the better customer support and QC. I have both so I'm not really biased either way. Oh, and the 400i has great wife soundstage, if that's something you care about.
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>>62190397
wife soundstage??
I really like girls
and their voices
(in my headphones)
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>>62189916
>>62189951
>>62190166
>>62190193
>>62190193

;_; Well it's not mine originally so at least my wallet didn't get chinked.

I have a SMSL Sanskrit 6 DAC as well, but I can't get its drivers to work with Windows 10. My Dad reported to get it working (plug & play) with his Mac.
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>>62190302
That sounds amazing to me now. My only memories of music class are using shit keyboards and flutes lmao. I had zero interest in it back then. The roland I showed you fits on my npull out draw. If I had the space I'd get a full sized hammer action one but at this point it's not a priority. Maybe in the future.
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>>62190236
Just get the Fulla 2, with Magni 2 as upgrade path if you find you like your HD600 loud as fuck.
The fulla2 is the maximum value per money you'll get from schiit, and since it's small-sized, it'll be useful somewhere, even if you someday buy something crazy like a jotunheim.
>modi 2
Is just fulla's dac in a bigger box, without all the other functionality in the fulla 2.
>modi2 uber, multibit
Have different inputs (spdif, coax) and a wallwart replaces usb power, so they do at least make some sort of sense beyond aesthetics.
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>>62190236
Modi 2 is a subpar DAC, but it works well enough. I don't know anything about the Fulla 2, but I don't expect anything better from it in that regard.
Magni 2 has substantially more gain (voltage multiplier) and output voltage than Fulla 2.

>>62190209
400i midrange drops off at bit below 1kHz until the peak around 8-10kHz.
HD 600 and HD650 should have more bass than 400i until you bring up the subbass range. 600 should have more pronounced rolloff than the HD 650.
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>>62190394
My honest opinion is that the magni sounds better than the fulla. I was showing my normie friend some stuff with the fulla and then the magni connect to the fulla and he mentioned how full and nice it sounds compared to the fulla. That was my genuine opinion in the first place. I didn't really expect him to notice it.

With all products at a certain price point, these differences are small. The gap between the fulla and magni is small. Don't expect magic. It's only worth it if you care enough, and can afford it.
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>>62190415
Sorry, typo. Wide.
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>>62186056
Fidelio L2
>>62186235
Custom Studio + BoomPro
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>>62190527
In any event, if the Anon has no external DAC, the fulla2's own dac is a better idea than a computer's lineout going straight to the magni.
Because it ensures Anon's not getting fucked by his computer's lineout; he'll get the same (good) sound no matter what computer he plugs his fulla2 to.
>full and nice
Were they volume matched? (below 0.2dB... as while humans do 1dB consciously really well, they still perceive 0.2dB subconsciously... and louder is perceived as better, screwing any non-matched tests)
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>>62190585
I 'matched' it as best I could by hand. I ould hear the fulla's distortion at certain volumes and that's what made me sell it./ I have spent so much fucking money on audio equipment as it is that I felt I was cucking myself with that ting. It's realy good but you have to be conscious of how igh the vle is turned up on that thing. I bought the magni to get rid of that problem and it's worked perfectly. I also think that it sounds a tiny bit nice in general, maybe it the fact that it doesn't distort at higher volumes. Who knows, who cares. Like I said I ended up buying the modi and it sounds exactly the same as the fulla's dac to me. I just ended up buying these things in a weird order. I couldn't be happier worth my 600 and stack now I can't see myself changing anything for a very very long time.
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>>62190700
>>62190585
My keyboard is fucked. Sorry about that.
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>>62190714
Consider something with cherry mx browns. Corsair k70 is quite good at its price desu.
Else see /mkg/.
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>>62190841
I have a small wireless microsoft keyboard for aesthetics and it's fairly awkward, but quiet, and I need the wireless capabilities sometimes. Cheers though.
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>>62190841
Leaf here. How would it be for $100?
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>>62190937
Good.
Just ensure it's the version with mx brown switches.
Also, the "red backlight" version should be considerably cheaper than the "RGB" nonsense.
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>>62190959
That's what i'm doing. I'm planning on turning off the LEDs anyway
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>>62190973
It actually has a function (in the keyboard itself, by holding some special button for a few seconds), to turn on/off the light for any key by pressing it.
I like it on for some keys (FJ, tab, control, esc, arrows) for whatever reason.
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>>62191001
Thanks
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So is the HD600 actually good? I can't tell what's real and what's a meme anymore.
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>>62191088
I'm in the same boat.
If you can afford it try to order your top 2 headphones so you can compare.
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>>62191088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZTKCMRzHM
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>>62191088
Yes, it's very fucking good. This place has been ruined by a small minority of anti 600 people, they literally dedicate themselves to that cause, and it's incredibly fucking weird.

You don't need to ask here to find out if its good or not. Most people love the 600 and 650.
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>>62191153
They are good headphones, and yes, the anti-shills are annoying, but some of the people constantly shilling the headphone don't even own them
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Would a $500 budget yield better sound quality invested into an IEM or a closed back headphone?
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>>62191088
Yes. It's better than anything you currently have and is a worthy investment.
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>>62191205
>some of the people constantly shilling the headphone don't even own them

That's because they're nearly all anti 600 fags. That's why this place is now fucked.
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>>62183195
I wish RL was like this picture.
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>>62190959
Years ago when I was super broke I wanted a meme cherry browns keyboard. Now that I'm a little less broke, I guess I want something to replace my sidewinder x4. What's the current popular keyboards if you don't mind mentioning them?
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>>62191367
atreus
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>>62191380
Um... I want a keyboard that isn't 100% ricer and has actual useful stuff. Not a keyboard that looks like it's about to grope my dick.
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is the hd600 really blue?
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>hifimans arrive
>leather box
>headphones arrived in perfect condition
>Cable is thick, well braided
>Sound amazing

Where's the meme?
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>>62191501
Ayyy, glad you're back!
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>>62191443
Yeah but you'll grow to love their style after you hear them.
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>>62191261
for headphones only if you're buying used.

for IEMs it depends. CIEMs absolutely. any universal fit iem the limit is probably $400 for fidelity.
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>Couldnt contact anybody who can mod my TH900 to make it have detachable cables so I bought five TH900s and had upgrade cables installed on four of them
what the fuck

I was just googling for TH-X00 TH900 comparisons before I jump into the ebony one.

heck why are there $1000+ headphones with non-detachable cables in the first place
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>>62191443
it's blue n gREHYE M8
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>>62191501
I wanna know how the bass sounds!
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>>62191522
ty bb but I never left.
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>>62191531
You have $500 and an open back headphone you like.
The fuck do you do mr tripfaggot?
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>Budget
$100

>Location
Australia

>Source
Fiio x1 PMP

>Type of headphone
Earbuds

>Open or closed
Open preferably (need to hear surroundings at work)

>Comfort level
Whatever

>Sound signature
Whatever

>Past headphones
Just my ATH-m50
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Am I being an idiot if I buy the Etymotics MC5 instead of the HF5 when they are both at the same price?
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>>62191558
apple earpods
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>>62191543
clean as fuck. Tight with plenty of impact bass guitar and kick drum are really impressive right now, I'm listening to periphery III and the track absolomb is rocking my shit. Matt Halpern is a drum god.
I've listened to this prior to buying them so I knew what to expect.
Next up is daft punk.
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>>62191550
Buy etymotic er4s or er4xr, or heir audio 4ais and call it a day. Spend the rest on ketamine
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>>62191528
>>62191540
I was actually hoping they'd have that blueish look like in the images. Just thought they were limited colours or something.

Better than 650 I'm guessing?
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>>62191588
Sugoi desu ne!
motto motto!
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>>62191633
*unzips* here, bon apetit :3
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>>62191261
Define your target and work towards it. Otherwise you get nowhere.
Earphones are generally linear. Small displacement of the driver can generate pressure inside the ear canal. A nicely made moving coil will generally be free of distortion, and be subject to reduced dependency on leak, insertion depth, and ear sleeves.
IOW, earphones max out fast with EQ and full convolution operations. Theoretically ideal sound reproduction devices.

>>62191531
>for IEMs it depends. CIEMs absolutely. any universal fit iem the limit is probably $400 for fidelity.
Nonsensical.
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What SPL show I listen to for the HD600 to be flat?
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>>62191657
>petit
means small
>a petit
heh
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>>62191609
>ketamine
ketamine abuse leads to HD600 hate.
Drugs are bad, mkay?
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>>62191714
At 0dB, it's completely flat.
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>>62191679
so how is what I said nonsensical. CIEMs are great but typically cheaper ones have only one BA driver, so they run into IMD issues and usually have poor bass. At $500 you can get 2-3 drivers and a properly designed crossover which remedy's both those problems while keeping the advantages of balanced armature.

Meanwhile with universal you can get that for cheaper ($300-400) in either a hybrid or full BA design and crossover.
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>>62191754
I guess it's hard to convey sarcasm over the internet.

Although k-holes were pretty fun in college.
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>>62191766
No wonder people say they're veiled lol
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>>62191367
Don't fall for the gayming keyboard meme
get a decent one like the tada68 or ikbc c87-108 if you don't think you can get used to the 65% form factor.
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>>62191501
I'd like to test them out randomly, but you either have a few dedicated minions here or you samefag on a regular basis.
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>>62191853
>minions
fans are a better term

>samefag
debunked and poorly sealed
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>>62191781
Listening to excessively loud volumes is bad for your ears.
Always treat your ears with care.
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>>62191810
I just want a nice keyboard with separate volume buttons and all the gaymer ones have shitty wheels.
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>>62191897
WTF. Volume wheels are so much better.
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>>62191566
Get either MK5 or get HF5 and google etymotic 82 ohm adapter and get an 82 ohm adapter for the HF5 off ebay to turn it into an ER-4S. MC5 are very uncomfortable even compared to other Etymotics.
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>>62191897
IKBC F108 has volume buttons.
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>>62191679
Thank you, I will try harder to make up my mind regarding exactly what I want and narrow options. I've decided to save some more before ordering so I've given myself about 4 more weeks of research. This is a big purchase for me.
>>62191609
Ety is tempting, for sure. Heir though, I mentioned them a few days ago. Someone said that they're b& from headfi? The fuck is up with that?
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>>62191877
>>minions
>fans are a better term

I don't care enough to look at possible name fag differences, but if that's you, then your opinion is completely fucking void. I knew that anyway from the last few weeks of browsing this place, after a long break, but fucking hell.
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>>62191936
I don't have access to the MK5 and I don't want to bother with adapters. I'm very surprised by how according to frequency graphs the MC5 on it's own would be more neutral than the HF5 that is twice as expensive.
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>>62191889
I put my SPL reader next to my HD600 but it's reading 41.9 DB. Would upgrading to the NFB-11 lower its SPL? I don't want to get tinnitus so please help.
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>>62191950
Not anon, but have you... say... actually caught the Tripfag samefaggin...?
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>>62191958
NFB-11 is so fucking sexy. You should just buy it anyway.
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>>62191941
But I want to raise the volume with one hand while masturbating with other and still be able to use the function keys if needed.
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>>62191958
>41.9 DB.
That's nowhere near dangerous. Just keep your usual listening volume under 70dB.
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>>62191963
He is a proven samefagger - and this is obvious fact. If you dispute this you are either him samefagging or one of his IRC cronies.
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>>62191970
>IKBC F108
I looked at the wrong one. It looks nice BUT I also want a wrist rest for enhanced carpet tunnel.
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>>62191980
I'm neither, but stop and calm yourself. Do you actually... have any proof?
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>>62191769
The primary advantages of balanced armatures are in sensitivity, efficiency, and compact form factor. Those are the main ones, unless you count the high inductance to manipulate the HF response as a "pro". Unlike more commonplace transducers, condenser and electrodynamic for instance, the balanced armature is inherently non-linear by its very drive principle.

The stiffness of the balanced armature that enables increased output from the ear's own resonances presents mixed results in itself. The diaphragm itself has multiple nodes in-band that are not easily remove by low order filters you would normally see in an IEM. The stiffness is greater than that of the acoustic transmission line that is the blocked ear canal, setting up an additional strong resonance.


>>62191566
Why are you buying the harder to fit model?
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>>62192002
Watch out. He's going to make paranoid schizophrenic connections in threads from more than a month ago as "proof" of my samefagging.

He has no proof. He's a schizoid autist who's mad Daddy is back.

>>62191949
Pretty sure heir audio started as a guy on headfi making CIEMs for people with beautiful custom shells and artwork. Eventually he founded with his friend a company in China. They split too and I think he went on to found Noble audio, and it eventually led to some headfi soap opera bs.

I could be wrong but that's what I've read from various sources.
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>>62192002
>I'm neither
Do you have proof?
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>>62191980
Took the words out of my mouth. Plebspotter is a known anti 600 shitposter. We don't mind different opinions here, but you're literally a piece of shit and we don't want you here.


It's this simple, either you same fag, or you have 2 other wankers that want to suck your dick, which doesn't make any sense.
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>>62192037
>Why are you buying the harder to fit model?
Because it appears to be more neutral. Also, it can't really be that bad, can it?
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>>62192050
The most likely theory is that he's part of an IRC group, or rather discord (that's what all the retards use these days), and they conduct shitposting raids on here. That's when you get the spam of the cracked headbands and his usual spiel about distortion and whatnot.
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>>62191980
>>62192050
>assblasted hd600 plebs about to go on an autistic shitposting spree because the tendies burned in the microwave.

I'm here to stay, bow down to your god :^)
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>>62183195
How do I stop getting ear smegma into my headphones.
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>>62192042
>>62192047
Sure thing. Just give me a sec
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>>62192078
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>>62192072
>more paranoid schizophrenic rantings about chatroom directed shitposting.

:^) no proof of something that doesn't exist, what a surprise!
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>>62192087
>no proof that you're not an organized shitposting crony
Thought so.
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>>62192050
>>62192072
So, are we going to keep on moving goalposts?
>>62192002

>>62192099
I don't understand. You don't either?
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>>62192105
Do you have any proof that you're not dipolar's shitposting minion?
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>>62192112
Not really, I guess? But i'm not here to defend DiPolar. All I asked was some proof
>>62191963
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>>62192123
>admitting to be part of the IRC shitposting gang
Thought so. Retarded proofposter.
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>>62192075
Any sane individual will see you picture and disregard anything you have to say. It's like you don't understand how obvious you are. Underage? actual autism? who knows. You are an absolute joke.
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>>62192105
it's okay, they do this every other thread. basically one person posts ***proof*** of my samefagging that's based on repeated assumptions while unironically samefagging his posts with "HA I KNEW HE SAMEFAG" bullshit. Then they shitpost "MOAR THD IS BETTAH" studies and the famous "MUH HRTF DIFFUSE FIELD" argument.
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>>62192131
The same thing could be said about you with your samefagging accusations though
>>62192135
Anti-Beyer posters do the same thing, but I guess they get a free pass :/
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>>62192131
>>62192135
>broken $300 headbands from a headphone with imfamous quality control issues
>2 decades and they haven't remedied it
>someone asks for proof and they claim he's a crony from an IRC that doesn't exist

You guys are priceless.
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does anyone have pic related? is the distortion/sound as bad as the measurements show? Such a fucking pity if so because I really like how solid yet simple it looks, nothing gawdy
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>>62192151
Nope, check the archive. The tripfag is obviously not a credible source because he has proven multiple times he is unable to understand audible thresholds of different orders of harmonic distortion and the effect of HRTF on frequency response.
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>>62192151
Am anon, and i'd like the opinion of Sennheiser owners, if there are any, that is. How is this graph?
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>>62192165
:^) it's pretty much just you misinterpreting your own sources to fit your narrative of a non existent, non snaptastic perfect headphone.
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>>62192151
>>62192155


Fucking hell, my eyes glaze over aft 5 words of your posts. You are so predictable, and blatantly the main anti 600 poster that it's unreal.

Keep maming threads, keep posting 60 snap pics, keep posting literally anything anti 600 whether it comes down to drivers, or graphs.

You are absolutely tapped in the head lmao.
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>>62192183
In my experience the 10K peak is actually around 7K. Obviously, it may just be my ears though. Otherwise looks like what I hear.
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HD600 has pretty good bass, HE400i does it better. HE400i has pretty good mids, HD600 does it better. HE400i has a hint of shrillness at 9k and my 2 day old pair that replaced a defective pair is starting to tear at the pad stitching.
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>>62192202
I'm the top anon, though? Do you just hate this Tripfag because he doesn't like your headphones?
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>>62192159
Never seen those before but They look great to me.
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>>62192202
>*makes non existent connection between me and this anon*
>ITS HIM OR HIS CRONIES OR SOMETHING I SWEAR IT IS REEEEEEE
>I CAN TELL BAY DUH
>LANGUAGE OF THE POST OR SOMETHING REEEEEE ITS A CLUE REEEEEE
>ITS HIM OR A "CRONY" I SWEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>ITS SO UNREAL

your raw, unfiltered autism is what's unreal. Now please, bow down to your god
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>>62192226
Sorry, yeah. It was aimed at the second anon. The tripfag.
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>>62192222
That's basically my experience as well, except my pads are fine after over a year.
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Anons, just click report.
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>>62192239
Pic, still look almost new.
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>>62192242
Kek. Did the tripfag even start the shitposting?
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>>62192231
Everyone do your self a favor and ignore this man. What an absolute fucking mentalist.

Imagine having this kind of dedication to hating an electrical product.
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>>62192265
Who cares who started it. Just make it stop.
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>>62192271
Kek. If only you anons ignored him in the first place
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>>62192271
imagine fetishising a headphone made in 1997 and then shitposting every time someone has a different opinion on it, and carpet bombing recommendations for it in a thread on 4chan.
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>>62192265
>>62192280
>defending the tripfag when the anon didn't even mention who to report
How many cummies did you get from king shit poster today?
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>>62191954
>I don't want to bother with adapters
That's just lazy.
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>>62192289
Do everyone a favor and leave forever. We all know your game. It's not funny anymore.
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>>62192294
All you needed was to take a look at where all the shitposting was coming from. I don't understand how this was defending him, however >>62192280
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>>62192318 new thread
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>>62192259
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>>62192311
>t. Sennshill
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>complain about shitposting tripfag
>start fights with him and go on delusional samefag witch hunts every time he shows up
>get mad when he gets a fanbase and start accusing him of IRC cronies and organized shitposting
>spam shitposts every time he shows up
>get confused when snapheiser memes start flooding the thread

the fun never ends.
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>>62192312
I'm the original guy calling out plebspotter, that guy isn't me, but I don''t exactly disagree with him.
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>>62192289
Imagine shilling the headphones everyday of your life, but not actually owning them!
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>>62192327
Yikes. I'm glad I won the lottery with my pair but $250 headphones really shouldn't be a lottery.
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>>62192311
no :^)
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>>62192352
Um
>>62191501
It's not like I don't recommend anything I haven't listened to extensively
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>>62192370
I was referencing a certain other anon near the top of the thread
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>>62192327
>>62192357
there are ways to stick a brainwavz angled lambskin on them (of course there are).
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>>62192375
Excuse me then
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>>62191949
At the risk of tl;dr-

I do advocate using EQ to maximize sound quality. Sometimes it is not immediately available, but at worst it helps narrow down your target.
Think about the comfort as well and how you will use the product. If you are on the go a lot, or have loudspeakers at most of your fixed media consumption spots, earphones may be advantageous. If you are less mobile and don't want to use loudspeakers, closed back stuff may work better.

There are other differences in, isolation for one. Earphones, much like earplugs, can have higher isolation than their over-the-ear counter parts. The real result will depend on ventilation, sleeve material, and insertion depth.
Insertion depth comes into play when you consider the occlusion effect. You might recognize this as the low frequency noise you get while walking or talking when you close off your ears with a finger. The two general solutions to counter this problem are:
-Ventilate the crap out the earpiece so that it has little isolation
-Force the earpiece to the reference plane, the bony part of the ear at the second bend.
This is part of why Etymotic has its design. It is easy to define anatomically and hard to force something past this. Not everyone finds this comfortable, even with custom earpieces. Ety are hardly the only earphone that are built around a deep fit, but they don't sound so nice outside the optimal depth.

>The fuck is up with that?
Drama over company ownership and profits made the company split. Sockpuppet accounts made on Head-Fi got Heir kicked out. At least, that's what I recall.
As for the 4.ai, I don't like it. Hard dip in lower treble, almost certainly from poor x-over matching.
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>>62192227
yes that's why it's a fucking pity their measurements show distortion comparable to cheap earbuds off bestbuy

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSRH1840.pdf

i'd have added it to my mid-fi hell collection otherwise
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Hi /g/
I have a question for audio experts, so I thought I'd try posting here

I have a really really crappy phone. The audio output of that thing is straight garbage and makes it completely useless to listen to music in my car. I want to spend ~$30 bucks to solve this problem. Is there something I can buy on Amazon? A headphone amp or a cheap mp3 player?
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>>62192683
A new thread is up; go ask there
>>62192321
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tfw drunk and listening to speakers

https://youtu.be/3L1DEvzsftw
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>>62192683
So, how does this work? Headphone out into the headphone jack of the car (radio/cassette deck)?
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>>62186801
>she
>>
>Budget
100-150
>Location
USA
>Source
computer/ps4
>Type of headphone
circumneaural
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
i dont want sweaty ears
>Sound signature
whatevers good for competitive gaming and making music
>Past headphones
im currently using a superlux hd6b should i just get IEMs instead fuck i just want new sound to blow me away
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