>nu/g/: censorship is okay as long as it's against people

>hate everyone
>everyone hates you back
>wtf

>nu/g/: clickfraud is ok if it LARPs as a political movement

>>62158308
Tor is fucking gay. Never using that garbage. Not like it makes a difference though, when every other part of the internet is going this way. RIP open and free internet. It was fun, it really was. I give this site just a few more years, maximum, before it goes away too.

>>62158319
>Preach peace and non violence and rally like minded people together to prevent the extinction of your race through culture subversion.

>get told you're Nazi scum and get silenced everywhere you go.

Yeah, no, fuck off man I'm not even white and I can see the bullshit clear as day. Why can Mexicans speak for Mexicans and blacks speak for blacks but when white men do it they're evil? Its bullshit plain and simple.

>>62158319
It doesn't fucking matter if you hate them, cunt. Free speech.

>>62158308
Censorship isn't okay, even if it's against people who disagree

>>62158308
>hate /pol/tards
>daily stormer gets BTFO
>laugh
>someone points out many of the same entities banding together to BTFO daily stormer are fine with hosting ISIS
>fucking ISIS

God damn it.
I hate to agree with /pol/.

>>62158374
>>62158389
you don't have free speech inside my house. you call me a nigger faggot and i'll be shoveling you out.

i also didn't pay $120 a month internet so i can host nodes for you to call others nigger faggots.

>>62158308
>no black people
>4 guys, just one girl
>2 white guys, one's in the middle

Yeah do they actually host this image on their site? Because I'd be surprised.

>>62158387
And how is that bad exactly? I'm glad they dominated everyone they came across. If they didn't I wouldn't live in the land of the free. Their conquest birthed civilization as we know it. But nope forget about all that. Fuck whitey he's the ultimate evil. It not unchecked immigration fucking with the economy. Its not religious zealots driving trucks of peace. Its not corporate fat cats playing us like rats in a maze. Nope its all fucking whitey.

>>62158495
black people are mostly brown and making a character's face completely #000000 is racist

>>62158430
just swallow the red pill nice and slowly
/pol/ isn't as bad as everyone says

>>62158522
Still, #2 over there is easily middle eastern. I'm really surprised they didn't have someone darker, and that male presenting people outnumber female presenting 4 to 1.

>>62158478
I never called you anything jefe. just pointing out what urks me with modern society. Its all so tiresome.

>>62158478
oh shut the fuck up. you think you're somehow entitled to shutting people up just because you pay for internet? then you're also responsible for people who post child pornography. You're paying for internet, why are you paying for other people to post child porn? That's your argument, right?

>>62158478
But you do it to host cp and other distasteful things. I pray to God you're false flagging and not actually that stupid

>>62158387
current year

>>62158335
>clickfraud
i dont think that means what you think it means anon

>>62158612
It's crazy how something like clicking links too quickly is considered fraud. It's probably one of the least effort actions someone can do on a computer. If your business model crumbles because off too many clicks, it's probably not sustainable on its own

Well, it's not about Daily stormer anymore.
They're starting to remove several other websites that don't even get close to DS.

>>62158308
>I want off this ride right fucking now.
you're free to leave, migrant

>>62158516
Because they refuse to acknowledge that their history makes them privileged, and give up the privilege their history affords them. We're in a renaissance of equality, and white people need to realize that there are other people that matter too. "We will not be replaced" is both true and bullshit at the same time, because there shouldn't be privileged demographics, at least not based on race.

>>62158657
Who, tor? Post links to those sources or get the fuck out
>>62158676
What about black people enslaving jews? Or other black people? Or the English treating the Irish like shit? Or the ottoman empire enslaving white people? Or do those not count since it doesn't fit your narrative?

>>62158612
Sweetie, I'm well aware what the malware on your computer is

>>62158676
>We're in a renaissance of equality
We were, but the SJWs fucked up everything with their racism and self flagellation.
Racism is never good, even when you say things like "ah, those niggers are actually good people!"

>>62158698
I feel like those aren't American issues tho

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>>62158676
Decent faux social justice post, but next time remember to add that it's about EQUITY, not EQUALITY

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>>62158719
Digitally aged version

>>62158676
didn't use the word privilege enough. C-

>>62158698
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/canadian-conservative-site-the-rebel-domain-gets-shut-down/

>>62158703
The SJWs haven't fucked anything up.
We're still in a renaissance of equality. The only real difference now is majority of people spend their days indoor talking about 'reality' and thus think a vocal minority of shitposters are somehow running the world.

>>62158478
kek BTFO

>>62158755
Those people actually wanting equality will be sent to the gulag, because "being blind to the race" is now somehow racist.

>>62158755
Renaissance? No historical civilization has had equality as we have now.

>>62158744
That's not tor doing that though. Regardless that sucks, and I say that as someone who doesn't even like that group.
>>62158714
It's only white people who need to each be held accountable for the actions of other white people, both in history and in current events? No thanks. I'm all for equality but I won't participate in that witch hunt

>>62158772
There is no gulag they have no power, as the rallies have shown it's literally just a bunch of whole foods shoppers talking shit online.

>>62158779
Of course not, but that doesn't mean the term doesn't apply when previously in history things were also pretty good, and much like a pendulum swung in the opposite direction after some time.

>>62158788
In the context of the united states of America, it's mostly whites who have benefited from slave labor and the genocide of the natives soooooo

Don't you worry your pretty little head. The pendulum swings back every generation. They will regret shedding their freedoms soon enough.

>>62158755
>Renaissance of Equality
>Equality of Outcome
>Not Equality of Opportunity
Really makes you think

>>62158799
Only a very small percentage of whites owned slaves you dumb fuck

>>62158805
I'm assuming you're trying to make a point somewhere but I don't speak hieroglyphs.

>>62158308
Nobody on /g/ cares about what happens on that shitty honeypot.

>>62158676
>White privilege
>white privilege
>white privilege

Again why is that a problem? Was it not white people that founded america? Was it not white people who wrote the declaration of independence? If they do in fact have privilege what's the issue? They literally founded america they are the rock on which all other races stand. they deserve respect not some backwards form of thinking condemning them to extinction based solely on their success. As a Mexican its so stupid to me that you liberals are working against your own race. Its ridiculous, your trying to turn your country into the same 3rd world hellhole we all fled from. If you people want equality move to fucking Juarez. stop ruining the country for everyone.

>>62158793
>previously in history things were also pretty good
eggsamples?

>>62158799
Except it's not all whites. The amount of white people who actually owned slaves is very small. My family were a bunch of potato farmers before they moved to the US before WW1. You, again, expect me to be held accountable for the actions of people I'm not even related to? No, I refuse unless you are held to those same standards.

>>62158819
And vast majority of America's prowess is thanks to the chinks.
Slaves are statistically insignificant really in comparison to the way America has treated its most productive groups.

>>62158825
Given how you can't decipher my point, it is true you need equality of outcome given you have an iq in the double digits.

>>62158825
nice work goyim

>>62158833
Birth of Western Civ babe~

>>62158308
Censorship is ok as long as it's my machine/project/site/company/whatever.

Only if the goods/services are publicly owned (government sponsored site/project/whatever) is censorship illegal and rightly so.

If you want your opinion to be able to be posted everywhere, shill for publicly owned goods and services and big government.

>>62158839
It's somehow my fault that you're awful at presenting your view.
Peak social justice.

>>62158891
>Can't understand others point
>Must be them being bad at presenting it
Thanks for proving me right.

>>62158886
No, you see, its much easier for the government to let the corporations censor and data mine for them. No harm, no foul

>>62158737
>Equity = FAIRNESS
I have never seen a more false statement in my life. 2+2 = Fish is more accurate.

>>62158886
>Baker refuse service to gay couple
>People throw shit fit
>Companies refuse service to right website
>People celebrate
Really makes you think. People are fucking stupid and tribalistic. They will support whatever is given to them so long as it harms the other "team".

>>62158925
Of it's government owned, at least you have an argument.

If it's not, there can't be censorship as hosting only the views that you like, on your service, is the basic right of self determination.

>>62159019
>If it's not, there can't be censorship as hosting only the views that you like, on your service, is the basic right of self determination.
So you are against net neutrality?
Hilarious whenever this is brought up and then people who are suddenly for NN but happy that a host of service providers blocked DS do incredible mental gymnastics to justify their stance.

>>62158939
Your confirmation bias is astoundind.

>baker refuse service to gay couple
>lgbt and sjws throw shit fit, stormcucks celebrate
>companies refuse service to right website
>stormcucks throw shitfit, sjws celebrate

What's the difference?

>>62159062
>What's the difference?
That is my point you imbecile. There is no difference. Holy shit are you dumb. Did you think I was siding with one side over another?

>>62158308
It's called parenting.

>>62159059
I'm against net neutrality, and it's justified because these companies gargled tons of government funds for infrastructure, so the infrastructure should be at least partially publicly owned.
And as such they're not allowed to discriminate or censor.

>>62159097
That means you're for it, anon. Not against it

>>62158939
The difference is "gay" doesn't mean, "Fighting for the power to make bakeries only serve gay people."

>>62158939
>Gay couple r nice
>refuse service to nice gay
>people get upset as they should

>rightcucks r mean little manlets
>refuse service to mean cucks
>people enjoy seeing meanies get btfo as they should

It really makes you think doesn't it!
Don't you just love it when an asshole in a movie gets his just desserts? The right is basically mrs deagle. Or did you actually mourn for mrs deagle? Honestly, I might have, hadn't her death been so hilarious.

>>62159062
The difference is it's more relevant to /g/. There are people on this board, right now, who unironically support totalitarian censorship.

>>62159136
wtf i'm a statist now

>>62158374
Thank you for your support good man. My friend is Hawaiian native, Polynesian kinda Asian, and was basically raised white growing up with my cousin, he's also very sympathetic to our cause and concerns

>>62159136
Censorship is a tool that fascists use. Ideas should be free to be discussed, debated, and thought about. You don't want to be a fascist, do you? You wouldn't want the tables to be turned and your views silenced simply because those in power deemed them unsafe, right?

>>62159138
There are people on this board, right now, who are old enough to be parents and would smack their kid for being as self-absorbed as these Nazis.

>>62158939
Gay couples don't choose to be gay.
Assholes choose to be faggots/

>>62158387
Slavs?

>>62159165
"I'm the center of the universe and I should have the power to kill anyone who disagrees with me," is not an opinion that needs to be debated.

>>62159185
>slavs
>white
laughing my socks off
next you'll be saying irish are white, lmahaha

>>62159173
Okay? We're talking about censorship here, buddy. Free speech doesn't only get applied to those who aren't "self-absorbed".

>>62159165
I wouldn't classify "day of the rope nigger gas the kikes race war now BUILD THAT WALL etc etc" as an idea that should be freely discussed.

>>62159211
What do you think smacking your kid is?

>>62159193
I never said that, and I don't think many people who you're demonizing think that either. Killing others for being different is obviously wrong. Wanting to defend your culture and history, as long as it's not done violently, is not. I'm not agreeing with their view on the world, I'm agreeing with their right to be able to talk about it peacefully
>>62159222
>Memes are serious discussion points
You'll find many peoples views are far more nuanced than what the media makes them to be

>>62159222
Okay, thanks for outing yourself as an authoritarian fascist. However, please use a tripcode so I can filter your gay ass.

>>62159240
>Wanting to defend your culture and history, as long as it's not done violently, is not.
And exactly how are you defending it if not violently?

>>62159223
I dunno, abuse or something? I'm really not interested in your semantic games.

>>62159274
It's censorship. We censor shitstains all the time. It's how they learn not to be shitstains.

>>62159222
In addition, doesn't it make sense to discuss those views and try to convince them that maybe there is a different way? As opposed to silencing them and hoping they go away?
>>62159255
Peacefully, stating why you think xx should be done or yy should not be. Discussion, debate, talking openly with people with different views.

We should censor
- Nazis
We should not censor
- ISIS
- paedos
- necros
- animal abusers

>>62159179
And?

>>62158308
>censorship is okay as long as it's against people I dislike
Exactly. Since I don't like your thread I will hide it. There is no reason to put up with your bitching and moaning so fuck off

>>62159283
Which dictator are you quoting? Stalin? Mao?

>>62159289
Nazis is a good start

>>62159283
Beating your kids doesn't teach them anything other than that you're not a sane, rational human being who can be reasoned with. But then, you're probably shitposting right now.

>>62159286
>Peacefully, stating why you think xx should be done or yy should not be. Discussion, debate, talking openly with people with different views.
How is that defense of anything?

>>62159307
You blocking what you see yourself isn't the same as a pervasive third party choosing what others can and can't see.

>>62159283
The effect is usually the opposite. Responding to someone's arguments by censoring them - by antagonising them - just makes them dig in their heels and hold onto those arguments tighter. The free market ideas must be nourished with the discussion of all ideas, such that we can break free from bad ideas and find Truth in good ideas.

>>62158676
And what makes you think you have a right to equality in the first place? Go make a commune with friends and live equally. With people voluntarily subjecting themselves to it. Otherwise you're a fucking faggot

>>62159316
Underage b& please leave.

>>62159324
If I were a mod I would delete shitpots myself. Too bad 4chan doesn't do that and the post quality is worse than 9gag

>>62159326
>Responding to someone's arguments by censoring them - by antagonising them - just makes them dig in their heels and hold onto those arguments tighter.
Nope. People respond to ridicule and social stigma

>>62159343
>if i were a mod you'd be fascist
Don't worry, they already are.

Everyone thinks they're smarter than anyone who came before them. And maybe that's true, IQs are climbing steadily. But wisdom, not so much. We go through so little adversity these days, and have to make so little sacrifice, that we become very thin skinned and sensitive to even the mildest things. In times like these we should spend more time reflecting upon the wisdom of our ancestors such that we do not stray from the straight and narrow. Because it is straight, and it is narrow.

>>62159320
>I hold these views
>These are my reasoned and thought out stances on why I hold these views
>What are your thoughts on those views?
>Do you agree, disagree? Why?
>What views do you hold? Your reasoning?
>Ah, I see. Some of those I too agree with. Maybe I'll think on my views a little more
Vs
>Fuck you, we disagree time to beat you up
You can defend your beliefs without being violent
>>62159343
Sure, but there is a difference between those two scenarios, I'm sure you'll agree

Not technology.

fuck off

>>62159343
Try this new and funky site called reddit where they have mods to coddle what you see or dont see. You will love it and hopefully never come back here.

>>62159359
Banning shitposters is not fascism. It's called following the global rules.

>>62158737
You should offer the same opportunities, not just make everybody equal

And if you think that's a good idea just because of an arbitrary attribute you're being prejudiced. Which means "racism" if "differences in history" is a dumbass platitude about black people

>>62159363
>You can defend your beliefs without being violent
You're expressing an opinion, not defending anything.

>>62159356
>people actually believe this
You might just get that race war you apparently want so much if you keep this shit up, you fucking shitlord. You literally sound like a dictator.

God gave us speech, something he has given no other animal on this Earth. We must do our best to speak clearly, and truthfully. Or we'll descend to the level of the common beast.

>>62159376
Ironically, people take reddit more seriously than 4chan

I wonder why

>>62159379
>not fascism
>global rules
You can't be so dumb as to not see the reality bending irony here.

>>62158308
they didnt censor anything they merely made a statement condemning the daily stormer but that they couldn't do shit about it because that would go against their morals

>>62159385
Educated and thought out discussions make everyone seem less like assholes and more like people with different viewpoints. Why do you need to resort to violence as a first reaction to defend an idea system?

>>62159165
But it's not censorship.

Censorship is having the state impose rules and silence you in *your own* property and services.

Like having *your* hosting company shut down because the government doesn't like you. Or having *your* company forced to not host (or host) some sites that the government doesn't like. Or someone forbidding you from selling *your* artwork because the government doesn't like its content.

I know sjws made "censorship" a hip term and many mindless faggots parrot it, but unless it's *you* or *publicly owned* property, censorship is impossible to exist.

>>62158676
Your logic is fucking gay and you should be ashamed of yourself. I'd have more respect for you if you were straight up anti-white but you're the kind of fucking RETARD that would object to any demographic outperforming others. It's just sad and pathetic honestly. I never had a problem with Jews outperforming whites (or Asians outperforming us in any fields) until Jewish subversion became a known issue with serious consequences. Stop being a faggot once in a while, and accept that certain groups do better than others and develop the infrastructure to support theirs, and if you have a problem with that, then you're a commie retard simple as that. If blacks or Mexicans want what whites have they can work for it and support their own in their own communities nothing is stopping them. And that was the case for a long time too. But now you dumb niggers are just too impatient and greedy and just HAVE TO promote this faggot nigger bullshit.
You are a lesser being for demanding an easy way out of your situation.

>>62159398
Yup. I agree. You should head there asap then.

>>62159405
They limited their bandwidth

>>62159405

they blocked access to the website and alto throttled their connection to like 0.5kb/sec

>>62158374

Alternatively, people speak for people. I dislike this new bullshit where we silence the opinions of others because they're from some other group. Shit like "mansplaining" and "let's disregard this guy's opinion on the police because he's a bootlicking cracker"

We're all fucking human. But apparently egalatarianism gets you called a Nazi nowadays.

>>62159424
>>62159438
oh nvm thats fukin gay

>>62159420
>Jewish subversion
How does that compare to classic SVN or DVCS stuff like mercurial / git?

>>62159404
it isn't. If it was, people would use the website as CP video/anime sharing website

>>62159390
Morons do not think their positions through. They will take them because they like them, and trying to get through to them intellectually will rarely work. They do not want to think and, faced with no consequence for being wrong, their delusion sits unchallenged.
Giving them a sting changes this. "You're a fucking idiot and I'm not doing business with you," can get them to reconsider positions that they would never reconsider on their own since they're just to appealing.

There's a reason rights have to be fought for. The other guy won't just give them to you.

>>62159418
>Blocking ideas one group disagrees with is acceptable as long as the thing doing the blocking isn't the obvious seat of power
I get where you're coming from, honestly, but unilaterally having your opinions silenced by a such a big and pervasive entity is still censorship.

Why are intelligent people so arrogant, /g/?

>>62159475
>implying the majority isn't a seat of power
>simultaneously believing in democracy
I'll never understand these people

>>62159482
low IQ retards can be arrogant too.
look at /pol/

>>62159492
Mob rule is a seat of power with the internet.
Guess who controls the internet?
That is why NN is fucking stupid.
With it the power falls onto big corperations that have no one oversight, like Google.
Without it, at least the government will act as an opposing force to the bullshit big corps do.

One of the reasons I am against NN, absolute power corrupts and without it, big internet corps have absolute power.

>>62159530
NN takes that power from the corporations, you're getting your terms wrong again

>>62159544
Wrong. How does NN take power off Google?
Amazon?

>>62159475
Bit it's not really censorship though.

The frustration comes from the fact that a huge and pervasive entity, as you said, is excercising its freedom of self determination.

The problem is not self determination, it's the fact that the entity was allowed to become so huge and pervasive, and that there are no publicly owned alternatives.

Unless you're arguing about putting limits and rules in self determination.

But why force private entities to offer specific services (even if it's for the greater good, it's still fascist and censoring to force them), rather than offer publicly owned alternatives that Offer these services by default?

>>62158799
kys

>>62159315
Imagine being this stupid

>>62159564
It forces them to treat data equally, in theory. They can't prioritize one service or service type over another.
>>62159583
I suppose, but until those public services are provided the current ones should be treated as public services for things like censorship simply because of their size and how integral they are in the internet, in this case. Frankly, they don't need to be self determining since they aren't real to begin with, but that's a different thing entirely and beyond the scope of this conversation I think

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>>62159611
I literally can not imagine it. I have never been this retarded so I don't know what it feels like.

>>62159611
Are you upset. I want nazis GONE from all my servers, they are NO DIFFERENT than pedos

>>62159651
Wow you really are fucking stupid. I'm not even a nazi, but people like you really make me wish they would come back sometimes, just to fix this dysgenic society

>>62159651
gr8 b8 m8

>>62159633
>but they say they're anti fascist, so they're ok!

>>62159583
Also, isn't Google publicly traded? That has to count for something

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>>62159633
Neat pic. Too bad it's made-up /pol/ horseshit.

>>62159673
Grow the fuck up, get a job. You will realize how world works.

>>62159632
>They can't prioritize one service or service type over another.
Right. Which they absolutely have shown to regard to at the moment. All it does is give Google oversight over the over government. I don't trust either so I rather there be a contest in power vs power vested only in Google.

>>62159694
Are you stupid? Literally every nation with a fascist presence had it rise because of violent commies attacking people.

>>62159721
woah man slow down. Are you sure about that? Did you happen to learn this from /pol/?

>>62158737
>>62158719
Or, you know, they could get a job and pay to watch the fucking game instead?

>>62159700
How does it give Google oversight over the government?

>>62159739
>hurr durr /pol/
No, I did my own reading. How about you try it instead of just parroting what CNN tells you to think. A good start is The Years of Lead in Italy, or even what that "/pol/ horseshit" picture describes.

>>62158788
Yes, it's not tor doing it.
Tor actually don't even blocked the DS, only some rogue exit nodes did.

But it shows the problem, that is that once you block one, you prove people you can block one, and they will force you to block more and more.

>>62159752
It gives google oversight over the internet over the government/ISP.

>>62159769
How? Google is as bound by it as Comcast is
>>62159761
That's what I thought.

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>>62159699
I know just fine and I'm probably your age or older. I just think that people who could be satisfied with some communes to safely call their own are less threatening than faggots who want to dictate the distribution of global resources
>>62159694
>implying that it's actually false and didn't happen in Britain at the same time, among many other places, with the same patterns.
Wew lad

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>>62159694
>commies didnt purposely start fights at Nazi rallies pre-1933
History is understandably a difficult subject, but it's much easier to learn history by understanding context and motives rather than memorizing exact dates, buildings, people, etc like the way most schools do it.

Fun fact - Hitler also supported the way history is taught the way I described as his history teacher in gradeschool did it much the same way I stated - through context and motives. The, "Why and How" rather than the, "Who and When." He mentioned it in Mein Kampf in I believe the first chapter.

>>62159790
>Google is as bound by it as Comcast is
Wrong. As evidenced by Google willingness to remove websites from their search engine or refuse to host websites.
>But muh private property
It not a justifiable excuse.

>>62159794
>distribution of global resources
What are you on about? If you recall, I clearly said I want nazis gone from my servers because they are no different than pedos. It's a private company not a global resource. Furthermore, my boos wants to make sure there is no nazi infestation in the website. It's both my moral and occupational obligations to keep the website clean

>>62159694
>German communists never hurt anybod---
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising

Oh well they probably just went back to being totally peaceful all the time and good upstanding citizens after that --r-right?

>>62159813
But Google removing websites has nothing to do with NN since it was, as far as I'm aware, reversed by the FCC not too long ago

>>62159289
I agree, fellow anonymous forum member.

>>62159831
Yes. So I want the ISP/Government to have that power as well so at least there is a balanced vs Google having the ability to control the content only.

>>62159820
If you're a small website with a very tight knit community I think it's perfectly reasonable to have and use censorship, however when you're a big company like Alphabet, AKA Google, and you effectively act as a middle-man to many online resources and services you should have a legal requirement to serve search queries in a fair and neutral way. It's the same reason power companies can't just cut off power to anybody whenever they feel like it all willy nilly because they don't like that person or company unless that somebody isn't paying their electric bill.

>>62159854
So if NN were enforced, in the way you're describing, then that wouldn't happen. But since it's not enforced anymore, or it's on the way out, Google can do that.

>>62159876
>>62159854
Sorry, what I meant was if NN were enforced in the way you're describing then Google would not be allowed to remove sites like that.*

>acknowledge that whiteys raped and pillaged their way across each civilization they met
>why do people think white people are evil?

Sucks that you're retarded, man. You know what the Nazis do with retards.

Also - and I'm saying this for everyone else, since you've demonstrated you're not capable of comprehending it - you can't beat globalism. Immigration or not, American industry getting priced out is a consequence of capitalism. If you have a problem with Pajeet and Chang taking your job, go start marching with the socialists.

>>62159876
NN is only enforced onto ISP. It is not enforced onto corporations like Google. How the fuck can you not understand this?

Companies like Google want NN enforced so they alone have the keys to the kingdom.

>>62159869
>
Google has been censoring videos for ages, no one gave a shit. Suddenly /pol/ is getting ousted and they are moaning all over the internet. Where were they when Google took the monopoly?

>>62159896
Meant for >>62158516

>>62159898
I think then your issue has nothing at all to do with NN.

>>62159903
>Where were they when Google took the monopoly?
Google pushing their own agenda isn't a new thing moron. Only idiots like you think it is a new thing. It is just that they are getting less subtle so complains are getting louder.

>>62159911
>go socialist globalist not nationalist if you think your country should protect itself economically
Jesus Christ you can't make this shit up

>>62158829
>[white people] literally founded america they are the rock on which all other races stand

no, a small collection of white men founded America over 200 years ago. The white people in America today had nothing to do with it. Most of them are descendants of 2nd and 3rd wave immigrants anyway. Why should they benefit from the acts of men 200 years ago just because their skin color is a similar tone?

>>62159914
Yes it does you idiot.
I want a counter balanced to Google control over the internet and despite ISP being shit, it is a good counter balance. Because at least it exposes the hypocrisy in Google.

>>62159903
Funnily enough, these /pol/ turds were shilling anti-NN manifesto a few weeks ago. They were shilling for Google against Mozilla.

Funny how tide turns

>>62159934
ISPs have no say in what Google does with their services, so NN or not Google could remove whatever sites they want

>>62159942
And Google should have no say in what ISP do with their services. Both have the ability to censor the net and thus forced to "play nice" with the other party. That is my point. I don't want Google alone to have the power to censor the net and no one else.

>>62158308
if you want free speech you should try another imageboard buddy, this has been a SJW/FBI honeypot since 2013.

zeronet may be your cup of tea

>>62159959
>2013

>>62159933
What do white people benefit from that is inherit to their skin color? Is is possible, dare I say, that institutionalized racism is divide and conquer bullshit from Marxists and that the real reason why some disparities exist between races is mostly because of differences of fundamental life choices between those groups due to different group culture?

>>62159955
Right, it's far better to let Google and the actual gateways to the internet be able to censor, rather then only google. Makes sense, considering they have no checks in power between the two

>>62158319
fpbp

>>62159165
meaningful debate is pretty much impossible at this point.

progressives do not want discussion, only agreement.
the only exception is when the media props up retarded nutcases to make the other side look bad.
guilt by association and all that.
>you share some beliefs with them? youre a evil NAZI!

>>62159996
Yes. The checks in power is between the two of them. They counter balance each other. Hurr durr better let google alone have all the power is a absolutely fucking stupid way to think. When is monopoly of access by a single entity ever a good thing?

>>62160024
Yeah, that's why it's better to have meaningful debate at the personal level rather than on the internet/in the media spotlight. Not that I go out of my way to find people who I disagree with to talk to, but when I do talk to people with different views, it's quite nice actually to see that we usually walk away from it better understanding each other and maybe even a little closer as/to friends.
>>62160047
What checks do they share between them? What can Google do to make sure an isp is playing nice? What can an isp do to make sure Google is playing nice? They aren't even the same industry, and if they are then Google would be held under the same regulations that ISPs would be and then this discussion we are having would be irrelevant

>>62160068
>What checks do they share between them?
Google censoring a site that ISP aren't will shine a spotlight on why and vice versa. Right now Google is censoring sites willy nilly and no one is questioning them at all. Just look at this thread and how many people defend Google right to do it.

>>62160100
That's not a check, though. Thats just news getting out. ISPs have no authority over Google they cannot prevent Google from removing a site in any way

>>62160119
>ISPs have no authority over Google they cannot prevent Google from removing a site in any way
Exactly. And Google should have no authority over what ISP can do. So why should NN exist?

>>62160151
What authority does Google have over an ISP?

>>62160157
With NN, they force ISP to cater to all sites equally when they themselves don't.

>>62158478
Liberals
>GOOGLE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THEIR COMPANY

Also liberals:
>BAKE MY FUCKING GAY ASS FUCK CAKE OR ELSE I'LL SUE YOUR PRIVATE COMPANY!

>>62158737
Can I get pogo stick legs so I can also play in the NBA? I never grew that tall and can't jump very high. Can I also ride a bike in an olympic marathon? My body just can't run as well as ethiopians. Thanks, I expect your tax dollars to buy me only the finest bike and pogo stick legs

They didnt ban them they just expressed their disagreement with it
If they started baning nodes it would be against the whole thing in the first place now wouldnt it
They probably couldnt even do it if they tried

>>62160167
Not hosting a site has nothing to do with treating all data that passes through ISP bandwidth lines as equal though. I get where you're coming from, but ISPs are in business to be the gateway to the internet, while Google is in business to provide a service. Google removing sites from their DNS listing has nothing to do with throttling data or giving other data priority as it travels from the site server to someone's home. I don't like Google removing whatever sites either, but this is two separate and only tangentially related issues

>>62160217
>Arguing semantics and technical aspects to make it seem like you have a point.
The bottom line is that Google is about as big a service provider as ISPs. Even bigger than in valuation than ISPs.

At some point the service you provide becomes as crucial as the landlines used to provide internet access. You are simply trying to play the underdog card as if Google is a small private own company sprinkled among the dozens of other company refusing service. Wrong. They are a huge multi billion dollar company and them removing sites is as much a death sentence as ISP throttling sites. Much worse in fact since they can do it globally but ISP are only limited to NA regions.

>>62158319
>tfw can't post on hardly any board without someone posting some incendiary /pol/ shit anymore
>doesn't matter if it's an actual /pol/ poster or a shitposter

>>62160262
Then they should be treated as an isp, and technically they are since they provide Google fiber. I agree with you, Google should be broken up. They are too big and are far too influential both in the US and abroad, both on the internet and through their government contracts. But dns hosting is not within the scope of NN, and these sites can easily find refuge on other DNS providers or services like the Tor network

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This is why we need no government.
Fuck statists. I would hate fuck statist though.

>>62160312
>Scope of the NN
Have you failed to understand my point the entire time? How are you so dense?

I am against NN simply because I want there to be another power to counter balance Google instead of only Google holding the keys to the kingdom. Now if you are going to ask me "how", I have already made enough post in response to YOU about it but you fail to grasp it which isn't my fault.

>these sites can easily find refuge on other DNS providers or services like the Tor network
And people can turn to other services and providers.

>>62158719
>three broke illegals watch a ball game for free

>>62160341
I apologise then. NN could go further to ensure data is kept fair across all providers ISPs and ones like Google alike, there is no arguments from me there. But even if NN in its current state were enforced, users don't have to use Google for DNS hosting or otherwise. But they need an isp, which is part of an oligarchy, to even access the internet to begin with. Regardless, I see you're getting bored of this conversation but thanks for the discussion. Hopefully one day the internet can be free

>>62160411
>Hopefully one day the internet can be free
Me too. People strawman the NN as the end of internet. What people should really fear are service providers like Google and Amazon.

>>62158308
Why do they all look smugly stoned?

>>62160456
>tor users
>silk road

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>>62158319

>>>/pol/ is that way, OP.

>>62159442
Egalitarianism is why we have this problem in the first place.

>>62159179
>gay couples don't choose to be gay
Yeah I fucking hate this meme.

>>62160195

kekked out loud. fine comment, good sir. still kekking.

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>authoritarian """"""""people"""""""" in this thread proving OP's point like fucking clockwork

>>62161699
>samefagging your thread this hard

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The shitty phoneposters that make up 4chan nowadays would shit their pants at the sort of moderation the internet used to have.

It all comes down to feeling like they're entitled to a platform, when ~14 years ago this debate would be considered unimaginably entitled.

>>62158939
>Baker refuse service to gay couple
>People throw shit fit
>Companies refuse service to right website who applauds activities like not serving to gay couples
>People that supported the gay couple celebrate

What is so difficult to understand? The left support gay couples and the left have brought about the platforms and tech to make those platforms possible because they come out of urban areas.

You are seeing the dynamics of urban America played out country wide. The media centers are in the cities and those opinions are part of the mix. The media is not 'against' the alt right. It's just that the vast majority of everyone working in the media is.

>>62161722
Whatever helps you sleep at night, fascist.

>>62161775
>People are hypocrites
>More at 11

>>62158819
And most of these whites where jews.

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What makes me laugh is that there are idiots who think i should be ashamed that my ancestors had the foresight and power to conquer and rule, thereby resulting in a superior life quality for descendants like myself. As if our skin color is at fault that the idiots who hate me are themselves incapable of acting like my ancestors.
The worst of all are the other self-hating whites. There is no logic in respecting the opinions and views of people who themselves lack any self-respect.

>>62158478
This, basically a non - bitchy ass faggot version of the Randall comic: The Post

>>62158308
Is there any source that they are censoring or throttling their website? IIRC they only made a statement that they don't like you, but still won't censor you because they value free speech. If you're throwing a hissy-fit just because they said they don't like you, then you're fucking retarded, a literal nigger. At this point I'm 100% convinced that the nazi LARPers are a jewish front to discredit the right wing.

>>62158308
tor is for poor,gay,sjw people that belive exit nodes are safe... not using a VPN

>>62159933
>no, a small collection of white men founded America over 200 years ago. The white people in America today had nothing to do with it. Most of them are descendants of 2nd and 3rd wave immigrants anyway. Why should they benefit from the acts of men 200 years ago just because their skin color is a similar tone?

And the blacks of today had nothing to do with slavery, so why should the be treated specially based on the acts of people 100 years ago.

>>62158308
>nu/g/: if some tech illiterate retard screams "censorshop" i will believe him because I am also tech illiterate

>>62163850
they literally were not able to implement censorship because it would kill off their main argument for allowing all sort of shady stuff.
Some node operators specifically blacklisted the dailystormer, though. What does it tell us? Their community are faggots.

>>62158308
its kinda funny and sad that tor put in place filters

>>62164988
>Some node operators specifically blacklisted the dailystormer, though
That's an assumption. There is no proof this actually happened. It's more likely that there is a different cause.

>>62158308
What is this tumblrnose shit?

This board isn't for technology anymore, it's for political discourse and retards...

>>62166027
>Implying /g/ hasn't been filled with NEETSocs, Antifags and the in/v/asion for years now

>>62158308

>using TOR

You brought this upon yourself, snowflake.

>>62166064
It really hasn't, /g/, may have not been the best board, but up untill recently it was still la good example of discussion and talk, now it's all racist posting, shills, politics, and the works.

/g/ never used to be like this,

>>62166064

>/pol/tards think they are any better

Both sides are as gullible to hate filled rhetoric, just change noun.

>>62166096

>weaponized autism

It's just NEETs with nothing better to do playing pretend potical-sci experts. These are the same people who went from bronies, to gamer gate, to now neo-nazis/antifa/sjw.

There's no middle ground, with some people.

>>62161772
14 years ago there would have been virtually no actual blacks on the internet shouting "gibsmedat" and "muh dick" all over

Imagine how bad the Internet is gonna be in another decade when there's a billion pidgin speaking Africans in it

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>>62166276

>14 y/o: the post

>>62166307
What?

>>62166064
There are archives, you know. Check out what the threads used to be 1+ years ago. A lot more technology, a whole lot less politics.
https://warosu.org/g/?task=page&page=10000

>>62159751
Why do retards always do this?
>you can't have your cake and eat it too
>DURR I'M ALERGIC TO CAKE!!
The point of the analogy isn't them watching the game you autist.

>>62158308
Why do they all look so fucking smug in this picture?

>>62166323

The /pol/ crowd is cancer, m8. Kinda like the brony crowd was cancer until that was addressed globally by the admins.

>>62166323
Huh.
Consider me BTFO.
Still, I wish the /pol/ and /leftypol/ crowd would fucking leave.

>>62166151
Well, I guess their "weaponized autism" is a result of actual autism

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>>62158308
Please fucking leave

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>>62159438
>>62159424
source? that's some serious bullshit if it's true

>>62167124
they're just pulling shit out their asses. >>62166815

>>62158800
Can't wait for gen Z, desu.

>>62166815
No u. Really.

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>>62167278
>I never used tor
>so I never knew how slow the tor network can be
The pinnacle of tech illiteracy

>>62167224
Do you mean generation Zyklon B?

>>62158819
Yeah, if you take issue with slavery, you better be pissed at Arabs. The barburry slave trade was literally 20x bigger than the Atlantic slave trade(and 90% of the slaves bought through the Atlantic slave trade went to south america)

If people actually understood the 18th century slave trade, they wouldn't be so uppity about america. For every slave we went to America, 200 went to the middle East. Why are there so few blacks in the mid east? Because they were castrated upon arrival. You think white American slave owners were mean? Read up on what the Arabs did.

>>62159751
That would infringe on their right to avoid proprietary formats