>Go to interview >They all have macs and apple watches.

1) It just werks
2) status
3) fuck you

>>62143575
it's the premium tech. People have to show that they are not cheap so their higher ups won't ignore them

>>62143575
Because stupidity surprisingly can bring people far.

>>62143575
Some people just like the OS anon.
I used it for a while in a hardware repair shop. For normal usage it is ok but i want more than normal usage.

>>62143575
they're a polished status symbol with positive brand image, whether the software itself is good is up to you and depends on your use case

you should learn to think for yourself

>>62143593
t. /v/irgin or GNUtoddler that can't touch a computer without a wiki to hold their hand through it

>>62143593
>>62143595
>>62143606
Or because they heavily subsidize wholesale purchases to large tech companies? Literally to forward the "status symbol" shit you retards somehow believe.

If you work at a big 4 everyone has one, because you either get your standard issue HP shit book, or the option of a full spec MBP, and I wonder what option people will choose every time?...

>>62143606
t. Assblasted Macfag

>>62143575
They made excellent laptops up until last december.

>>62143575

> looks good (OS and hardware)
> stable
> underlying unix arch = good for IT pros

Why wouldn't you, OP?

Unix capability and your bsd toolset alongside muh GUI. Same OS and support so easy file passing and shit. They're more expensive than a thinkpad running debian, but in business it costs more to fix compatibility issues between employees and their windows,bsd,Linux, etc, setups. It's a business no brainer and prevents headaches.

You can develop shit for Android, Linux servers and some shit for Windows (mostly multiplatform) from any OS, you can only develop for the extremely profitable iOS platform and macOS from macOS.

>>62143622
but don't they have pretty garbage enterprise support? it's not really all that often that I see macshit outside of fortune 500s or hipster startups

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>>62143575
>Mfw these threads just proves /g/ is full of robots who can't relate to others

>>62143622
I mean all you need is VPN support and access to your cloud backend. Not much development is done on your laptop. 90-95% is all done over your cloud workstation.

>>62143672
>>62143656

>>62143656

MacOS MDM isn't all that bad for managing the devices either

>>62143575
they get old and do stupid things with their now stupid brains

>>62143622
>you either get your standard issue HP shit book, or the option of a full spec MBP
Have you actually used a mobile workstation before? HP's professional laptops are so radically different from their consumer garbage that they may as well be a different brand.

>>62143635
>proprietary

>>62143606
T. I own a mac

>>62143575
This tells you that:
-You will never earn a reasonably wage at that company.
-Company is about keeping up appearances.
-Your potential superiors do no have any affinity with technology.
-You will be the "nerd" as long as you work there.
-They are flamboyant homosexuals.

>>62143721
Yes, and I chose a MBP over it.

Trackpad is ass, and I have NO idea why they cannot figure it out to save their lives.

>>62143575
Solid terminal, can run unix utilities and command line applications natively, interfaces with linux easily over ssh, solid choice of package managers, app store with actual apps worth using, computers last 5+ years, high resale value, low maintenance, easy and secure cloud syncing with built in 2fa, physical stores all across with world for hardware support, priced competitively with computers in the same class (ultrabooks), full personal tech stack integration (desktop, laptop, smartphone, cloud, watch, tablet), and more

The list goes on and on

>>62143977
oh and I forgot about the unbeatable multitouch track pad

>>62143977
how many dildos are inside your anus at this moment?

>>62143575
Posers. They compensate for their lack of technical skill with trendy hardware.

>>62143575
I understand that someone would like mac for its OS, but why would someone buy watch, i haven't looked at a watch since forever. Watches were good when there were no phones around.

>>62143744
> get a job

>>62143622
Saw a headline that NYPD is switching their 30K Windows phones to iPhones.

>>62144096
>normie cannot find a better arguement than to appellate to the opponents personality

>>62144017
If you count gainful employment writing software and managing linux infrastructure professionally as dildo then exactly one plus several interviews and offers a month

Nice argument btw,

Don't forget to Stay NEET™ ;)

>>62144119
>>62144096
Who are you quoting?

>>62144174
You. In fact, we are you.

>>62143594
I used OSX for Node, Python and some C# Mono Development. Never had a Single Problem >>62144212

>Is there a reason most professionals use Macs or am I just poor?
Macs area form of functional fashion accesories, and people purchase them to be a part of the trend.
They cost more than what is practical, but they are cheap enough to be attainable to anyone with a job.

>>62143594
>i want more than normal usage

Like what? Gaming? Writing boring software for the pathetic companies that buy into the microsoft stack?

Have fun giving your data to Microsoft for free and using a computer that restarts it's self without your permission every 3 days

>>62143575
alright larpers it's time to get out, i have op's answer
the reason people have macs around is because there's this fucking fucking budget thing

the person making the hardware buying decisions, he needs to spend all of the allotted budget he has, every fucking year
why? because if he ever doesn't use all of his budget in a year, then the beancounters are going to say to him next year that the operating budget available is smaller
he needs to maintain a certain amount of spending every year, and if he can get things that look like they're useful and expensive to people that don't know fucking better, they'll think he's doing a good job

then next year, when shit actually hits the fan and he needs to buy a lot of essential hardware, fast, he fucking can because nobody slashed his fucking budget for this shit

>>62144407
lol nice hypothetical that doesn't address any of the actual reasons why developers and other IT professionals prefer using Macs

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>>62144119
>being unemployed is a unique quirk of my creative personality

>>62144440
shut up larper, show me your latest ingram micro order
oh wait you're not in charge of provisioning equipment, or in charge of anything, or in the industry at all
suck my dick

>>62144467
So lemme get this straight, you order parts and computers for IT professionals, while not actually using the computers to create software, configure remote infrastructure, or create content, then you go about telling others why the IT professionals you work for like using the computers/software they do?

fucking lol

>>62144588
not the last time you'll be wrong today

>>62144647
cryptic statements aren't arguments

you still haven't addressed actual reasons why many developers prefer to use macOS and Apple Hardware

>>62144728
op's question has been answered, fully, with the real world explanation of why it happens

you clearly want to be entertained or something, you're asking unrelated questions, and are all around a poster that seems to be shit
so, poster of shit, allow me to answer your shit question with a shit answer
"many" people have scat fetishes too, yet they are a loud minority you only hear about because they are against the real world norms

>>62143606
>macbabby calling linux users children
jesus christ i want off this ride

>>62144855
>my answer is obviously correct because im really angry about it for some reason, no need to back it up

rich

yeah you are right, IT professionals don't use macs because they prefer to use them. That wouldn't be a real world reason for why anybody uses anything

watching you get angry and flail around has been quite entertaining

much appreciated anon

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>>62144926

>>62144926
>mom look I'm using ""command line"" to open a video
>what do you mean "what advantages?" it's freaking 1337!!
>I can't connect it to TV or sound system it's a minimal kernel, let me recompile quickly
>what do you mean this is stupid ALL THE SERVERS AND ALL THE 1337 HACKERS USE LINUX
>you're not a ""computer enthusiast"" you just don't understand
Desktop linux is a toy for larping teenage retards.

>>62145044
I'm not the person you responded to, but you need to calm down and stop spewing dumb shit

I use linux as a desktop at work (fedora+i3) and I live in the command line because I'm constantly sshing onto remote linux boxes, running and writing ansible playbooks, and writing python code. The command line is an extremely powerful and versatile tool that is largely the same across unix operating systems, that can easily be accessed and configured remotely.

Yeah there are a lot of larpers on this board but that doesnt mean your arguments are anything more than useless screed

>>62144969
it's probably inconsiderate for me to reply "no problem", as you seem to have more than a few serious ones

>>62145120
>you can't ssh into a machine from macos/windows/any other os
>you can't write text files on any other os
>you can't write python code on any other os
As I said it's for autistic retards like yourself.
>desktop use of local os
>describes remote sessioning into servers
Top yourself, cretin.

>>62145180
ohhhh you got me lol

desu I would have left this conversation with a tiny bit of respect for you if you just responded with a 'no problem'. It would have shown that you have a sense of humor and you don't take yourself too seriously. However, that response was more entertaining so I do appreciate your effort.

Though if you'll excuse me, I have a phone interview tomorrow morning and I stayed up too late laughing at your petty arrogance

Good night anon and thank you

>>62145206
CentOS is installed on the servers at work so Fedora is a natural choice because it is very similar. I can test simple configs and run scripts locally if I don't to waste time provisioning a test server in the cloud.

I like editing configs and programming in vim because Vim keybindings are dank, Vi/m is installed on all the boxes I work on by default so I dont have to edit files locally and then copy them over, and I can drop my config onto any box im working on from my github in a mater of seconds.

also a lot of the software I write tend to be command line tools because they are much simpler, faster to develop, and more easily integrated into automation systems.

>you can't ssh into a machine from macos/windows/any other os

you arent wrong about this one. DESU I would be using a Mac with iterm2 and local vagrant vms if I had it my way but the company I work for gave me a linux desktop so I use it.

Windows is totally out of the picture tho, putty is terrible, powershell is a different platform than what I work with and I prefer my OS to not be preloaded with spyware

Games don't run on it, so they won't get distracted.

>>62145358
what is your job title anon

>>62145410
DevOps Engineer

>>62145358
Windows had cygwin since forever, and built in Ubuntu/SLES subsystem as of last month. Overall the initial edgy rant was targeted at local teenagers compiling Gentoo to keep their anime and porn more secure, not you and other 2.5 anons who do actual work on computers. Now I must away. Adieu.

>>62144996
>college degrees
A liberal arts/humanities degree is worth less than any trade job certification mate.

>>62143878
>MBP pad
>goid
So I see I've wandered into a shill thread. Can't wait for the rep at the genius bar to say point sticks are bad.

>>62145818
>oh my god someone like tech I don't like LE FUGGEN (((SHELLS))) :DDD

>>62145862
Not an argument.

I have a mbp at work. Thinking about moving to a linux laptop because I enjoy tinkering but the mac is too damn comfy and works so well.

I use command line all day with no issues, can always run a docker image or ssh if I need to do something linux specific.

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>be NYPD female technology leader
>choose MS/nokia for a device expected to be used for at least 7 years.
>Be done with roll out.
> MS decide no more support.
>switch to apple.

Not a fan of apple, but MS should consider the optics on this.

t. linux user since 2009.

>>62145907
>the mac is too damn comfy and works so well.
So does Linux. The maymays about how you have to configure xorg.conf and whatever else are from people who have never used Linux in their lives.

Try Fedora, thank me later.

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>le status symbol

Jesus Christ you autistic retards, nobody outside of HERE sees computers as status symbols. Cars and clothing are what people usually look for in a person. There's plenty of rich bimbos who don't even have computers at all. Its no mystery why people who can, do buy Macs. MacOS itself is basically flawless and they just happen to run on Apple's own computers the best which are pretty decent as pieces of hardware themselves, still, what makes them great is MacOS. You really think executives at any company use Windwoes on their personal machine? I guarantee you all the higher-ups in Windows producing laptop companies have Macs at home. I doubt the people at Acer for instance actually use their own shitty products. Even Microsoft Surface teams do NOT look like they're actually using that, they're just trying to peddle it to everyone else for a paycheck. Nobody who's pampered with cash has the time or emotion to deal with Windows plebbery and OEM bullshit. Apple is the only manufacturer who you can speak to in person about an issue and have a real person help you. Don't mention IBM shit either, that's not for the average person.

>>62145940
>macOS is flawless
Lol no.

>>62143575
Because developing on Windows sucks and lots of big companies aren't willing to deal with the hassle of supporting linux

>>62145940
>Apple is the only manufacturer who you can speak to in person about an issue and have a real person help you.
What? Dell has on-site technical support for even single users, it doesn't force you to drive off to somewhere. You simply have no clue what you're talking about.

>>62143575
well, typically, most of them are a bunch of faggots, so there you go

>>62146349
You're the clueless one, retard. Dell doesn't do that shit for free, do they? Apple on the other hand have stores if you're close AND on-site support using IBM's network.

>>62147453
That doesn't work for enterprise users

Most people I work with with macs. I'm a senior systems engineer and devops meme bro in a huge environment, 10s of thousands of servers total. I only use iterm2, sublime text, vagrant, virtualbox, and chrome, but it's a solid OS with all the cli tools i need plus homebrew to install everything else.

I hated it at first but now I wouldn't use anything else. Even turned my Linux desktop at home into a hackintosh.

ITT are people who don't touch computers for a living and don't understand that having to janitor your work machine is fucking autistic.

Most professional devs opt for the macbook over dell workstations because it's just no hassles unix. brew can accomplish anything i'd need on linux.

>>62147510
>virtualbox
m8 why not fusion. also this is basically me but for a startup.

>>62143878
>trackpad is ass
Who cares when all the pros use the clit mouse?

Status. Usability is moot. Fuckwads wanting their apps supporting iOs. I had a Linux box until some jerkoff thought it would be nice to see an ipad for signing in when he walked through his company's lobby. Touch screen hard to use? It better have keyboard support. Why not just a pc? Cause an ipad looks nice. Fuck me.

>>62147539
>not running arch on your work machine
>not enjoying the FRESHEST packages
>not having the CHILLEST processor
>not hanging out with the HOTTEST devs
I bet you don't even have a decent conky display on your desktop, you turbopleb.

>>62147644
Ps, i dont mind the mac. 6/10

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>>62147659
>try out arch, notice it crashes between every few hours
fuck of

>>62147787
>frogposter
>makes fresh linux crash
not surprised

>>62147464

https://www-935.ibm.com/services/uk/en/it-services/technical-support-services/apple-care-for-enterprise/

This is literally for enterprise users you retarded fuck.

>>62147453
Your claim was that NO OTHER COMPANY did this. I just showed you that not only does Dell do it, they do it in a way Apple doesn't: on site support. Now you're changing the goalposts like it's an outrage that you have to pay for a guy to drive to your house and fix your stuff.

>>62147921
Where's the link for personal users?

>>62147453
>Dell doesn't do that shit for free, do they?
Show us a company doing on-site repairs for free, you retard.

Mac is better.

>>62143575
I guess it's an american thing, last time I talked to a civil engineer he said he was using a MSI laptop.

>>62147551
Fusion costs money and honestly I've had way less problems with integrating other tools wiu virtualbox. Stuff like terraform and packer and vagrant plugins

>>62147970
I moved no goalpost you dumb fuck. No other company can do BOTH, you dense fucking bastard. Jesus Christ, you'd think someone would learn to read when browsing a board which is primarily text.

>>62147980
Now THIS is moving the goal posts.
>hurdur das not for enterprise
>here you go, this is for enterprise
>b-b-b-b-but what about home users

Its the same thing, retard. If your Mac is mission critical you're going to have enterprise support. There is no 2 tiers, they're pointless. Normal tier, a plethora of online services or go to a physical store or authorized Apple repair place. If you're more important than that then you're on enterprise. Understand?

>>62148389
>No other company can do BOTH
What? I just showed you a level of support that Apple can't match.

>Now THIS is moving the goal posts.
No it isn't. Dell does on-site support for both enterprise and home users. Apple doesn't. If they do, please show me.

>There is no 2 tiers
I didn't ask for 2 tiers, I asked for the same level of support at home and at work. Dell does this. Why would on-site be restricted to enterprise?

>>62145930
>optics
kys

>>62148389
>There is no 2 tiers, they're pointless. Normal tier, a plethora of online services or go to a physical store or authorized Apple repair place. If you're more important than that then you're on enterprise.

>there are no 2 tiers
>proceeds to describe how there are 2 tiers

Are you allowed to drive and vote?

>>62148627
How can't Apple match those levels of support when they objectively have more resources than Dell? They have on-site and in-person centers all over the world? How could Dell possibly have more than this? Last I checked, there's no Dell shops around me. Unless you know of a service where they teleport some neckbeard to my door to fix my shit instantly.

About your second point, you're fucking fixating on the NAME of the service. If Apple will send someone to your house as an individual customer, does it fucking matter what they've called the service or are you just that dumb? What is the difference between 'X home user on-site support for $50/y' and 'X enterprise support for single customer for $50/y'? Please do tell me what the fuck the difference is other than what they're called in the brochure, retard.

>>62148660
Learn to follow conversation, there's no two tiers of ON-SITE/ENTERPRISE support you fucking mongoloid. Are you allowed to use the family PC?

>>62148731
>How can't Apple match those levels of support when they objectively have more resources than Dell?
I don't know, it's a mystery, but the unavoidable fact remains.

>Last I checked, there's no Dell shops around me
Last I checked there's no on-site support from Apple for personal users.

>If Apple will send someone to your house as an individual customer
Ok, show me how I can achieve this without being registered as a company. Basically, how can I get this for a MBP I bought for myself.

>there's no two tiers of ON-SITE/ENTERPRISE support you fucking mongoloid. Are you allowed to use the family PC?
No one asked for or suggested that anywhere.

>>62143575
>Is there a reason most professionals use Macs
They don't

But at the places where Macs are prevelant it is because if you give them Windows, their useless employees will want to install a ton of software, and as a byproduct viruses. If you give them a Mac, there isn't any software they can install - virus or otherwise.

Don't y'all have something better to do than suck off IBM/Dell/Apple all day?

>>62147539
Maybe if you're computer illiterate

>>62148839
Meng I work at Langley and the laptop distribution is a solid 50/50 between current-gen ThinkPads and MacBooks. And tbqh, the MBPs are a way better choice than the shitty X260s or T460s. Who the fuck thought making the entire trackpad a spongy pressable shitfest needs to be fired.

>>62148871
The chinks ruined the ThinkPad that's for sure.
But I'd still use a ThinkPad over the Applel Macbook and their gay touch bar.

>>62149037
>Applel
>gay
Real mature.

You realize you can get the 13" without touch bar? You also realize that you can get a (r)MBP from 2010-2016 that has function keys? The 2012 non-retina MBPs are really fucking powerful and have replaceable RAM/Storage/Battery.

>>62143575
>Go to job interview
>Get hired
>Anon do you want a PC or a Mac?
>PC please
>Haha its the first time someone says PC so here is a Mac
>Ask around, everybody wanted a PC but douchebag CTO who can only facebook and youtube has decided we were all on Mac because he wanted the office to """"""look good"""""""""
Thats why they give you a mac......

>>62149073
>from 2010-2016
If we're going back that far, I can get a W520 ThinkPad with a real keyboard.

>>62149158
>still ignoring that you can get a 2017 mbp without touchbar
>still ignoring that you can get a 2016 decked out mbp without touchbar

>>62149168
>still ignoring that a Mac is a useless piece of shit bested by a 5 year old ThinkPad.

>>62149073
Not him, but I either get a current MBP with an atrocious keyboard (yes, I'm sure after a year Stockholm Syndrome will have convinced me it's good), no Linux support and pay over 1k for it, or I get an old MBP that solves all those problems, but it's still too expensive for a 5 year-old second--or-third-hand laptop with bad battery life after going over hundreds of cycles.

Or I can just get a XPS or a Thinkpad, which pretty much solves all of this.

>>62143575
They are the type of business who spend 80% of the budget for the front-desk (and i mean it literally) and 20% on everything else.

>>62143575
Mac is comfy and just werks but it's to expensive not good cooled and just doesn't delivers the performance for the price I pay. iOS is actually pretty comfy, get's updates forever, secure and it's a little bit expensive but it's worth it for me.

>>62144406
Never heard of linux?

>>62143575

>professionals

Those are hipsters and old folks desperately trying to hang on to their youth.

Just use whatever the fuck you want.

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>>62149603
Linux is for rural and suburban retards.
Real men use macOS because it is flawless and real men need a flawless system for efficient use of time rather twiddling around in the terminal like autists with too much free time on their hands.

>>62149677
I actually had to use the terminal more in macOS.

You're retarded.

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>>62149741
You're actually autistic. Go get laid.

>>62149760
Not an argument.

>>62143977
>App store
Now programs are apps

I want the present to die. Really. Idiots believe imac toys are kinda of supersized iphones

>>62144440
Over the several years on it industry I only saw fags and video producer fags using it

>>62143977
>solid choice of package managers
This isn't a pro. The stock package manager (I'm being generous by calling it that) is such a piece of shit that you have to resort to brew, macports and 50 other scripts to do the work. Because God forbid you actually add a repo, like I can do on any distro.
The fact that you have to use different package managers is pretty bad desu. It's probably what I dislike the most about macOS.

>>62145877
Doing what you're doing is exactly what that one guy was doing when he kept saying "false equivalency" whenever someone argued with him. It's pathetic.

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>>62149783
I bet you rapidly tab between 4chan page and your kewl looking terminal at the back of compsci class.

>>62145410
Cock analyst

>>62143575
>macs
>all the linux utilities
>none of the hassle
just fucking works.

>apple watches
maybe they just like them?

>>62149859
>I bet you [maymays]
Not an argument.

>>62149853
No clue what you're talking about, but what would you suggest as a retort to the brilliant argument that he posted?

>>62149877
What hassle? What are you talking about?
>all the linux utilities
Yeah, no.

>>62149894
>What hassle? What are you talking about?
These
https://archive.is/QsWvV
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=linux%20sucks%202017

>Yeah, no.
what are you missing that is not on homebrew/macports/pkgsrc?
Fun fact pkgsrc is straight from BSD

>>62149677
GNU/Linux user here. I would use the terminal a lot on any OS. It's the best way I know how to work. Mac OS even comes with vim, emacs, and openssh out of the box, so acting like the terminal isn't worth using makes me wonder if you're actually a Windows user false-flagging.

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>>62149894
>[maymays]
>Not an argument
Fuck off back to your fetishizing blacked cuck board.

>>62149924
>these
The first link, which you definitely did not read or at least understand, lists a ton of non-issues.
Things like "we have too many distros" or "we have too many UI toolkits" then don't use all of them, why is distro X bad because Y exists, or why is GTK bad because Qt exists? Or complaints about lacking some hardware support, meanwhile macOS has WAY less hardware support.
Others are downright, completely wrong, like "no hidpi support". I use Fedora on a XPS 13 with a 3200x1800 screen. It has a higher DPI than any MBP ever made, and it scales perfectly fine. The author, a bit like you, has no clue of what he's saying.
Also, this isn't a comparison. You said "with none of the hassles of linux". "None". Are you seriously telling me I can't find a lot of these complaints in macOS?
If you want to post actual complaints you have then we can go from there, but if your only argument is something someone at your shill central found by google "why linux is bad", I'm really not going to bother.

>what are you missing that is not on homebrew/macports/pkgsrc?
The ability to change system packages. Show me how to change my kernel with brew, or add a repo that has a driver I can install and use.

>>62145120
>The command line is an extremely powerful and versatile tool that is largely the same across unix operating systems
Actually that is why someone should learn using the terminal. No matter how the UI looks, you can go to console and do work.

>>62149924
One of the complaints was:
>There's no easy way to use software which is not offered by your distro repositories, specially the software which is available only as sources.
which is just retarded, especially coming from someone defending macOS where you have to install a whole different package manager to get something from another repo instead of adding the repo, like in any distro.

Thank you for proving you have no complaints.

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>>62150036
>>these
>Le apologist post
>>drivers
>drivers are still an issue for him

>>62150112
>realizes he fucked up
>has no clue of what he's talking about
>can't formulate a retort
>also can't install drivers through brew
I accept your defeat.

>>62150112
>iniciar sesión
Has Apple moved their shilling operation to Mexico? No wonder the bait quality has dropped so hard lately. Fuck off Pablo.

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>>62150139
Sure thing buddy, enjoy your 13 years old bugs
https://archive.fo/CEhhn
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865

>>62150154
>They only speak Spanish in Mexico
>Not in Spain, where the language is from
Typical murrican education.

>>62150178
MacOS has this too. You can't swap 2 single keys. Try switching left Cmd and caps lock, it's impossible. Only both Cmds with caps lock.

Keep being desperate.

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>>62150214
>>62150214
>MacOS has this too
Except it doesn't because you can change them with Seil. Including multilanguage. You sure are entertaining.

>>62143575
yeah, that never happened

nice guerrilla marketing thread dipshit

>>62150271
>needing to pay for third party apps for basic functionality
And I can change hotkeys on a PT keyboard without that. The article is bullshit.

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>>62150316
>he doesn't pay
>he doesn't get the functionality
>because Work For Me™
Looks like you had a good morning

>>62150349
I have that functionality out of the box retard. You're just doing damage control now.