/wt/ watch thread

>>62135412
That vintage watch could have TIMEX written in it, nobody would notice.

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Gonna be doing the final regulation on this old shitter.

Setting the balance in beat is a nightmare, since these don't make the ticks at the same time as Swiss lever escapements, which confuses the timegrapher.

Is Seiko SSC293 good? Is $180 a legit price? (Amazon) It costs almost twice as much where I live.

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thanks to the anon who sent me the dj to mess around with. I have it all in pieces and will try to mess around with the movement but i am relatively certain it needs parts as the hour post has become detached from the gear train and the movement wont function for more than a few seconds. In case you were curious its a DG2803 movement.

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>>62135925
the hell. neat, more pictures please.

>>62135958
Can't say I care for it but if it's what you want then I'm sure it will be fine. Joma has it for $17x so that seems like a consensus price.

>>62135984
Ill post more shots when i get back home. Pretty interesting little watch.

>>62135958
180 dollars
quartz chrono
looks like a pig

up to you but i personally don't think that is a bargain. You can get a monster for around 200.

>>62136032
nvm price went up 40 dollars for no reason.

>>62136002
>Subdials overlap with the numerals
Somehow this is even worse than simply having them cut off.

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>>62136002
Only other pic I have, I took these at work. It's a slav shitter with practically no info on the Internet, but it's similar to the Junghans Ato Mat.

>>62136088
Is this like one of those Vostok ship clocks or something?

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>>62136178
No, it's a civilian Yantar electronic wall clock.

This shitty low-res pic is the only one I could find of this model. However Yantar mostly made traditional wind-up clocks in traditional designs, my parents and my grandmother all have Yantar pendulum clocks.

>>62128774

Just wanted to say you're wrong. It doesn't depend on the watch, you dumb fuck.

>>62136347

*it does matter

Man, I AM dumb. A diver is okay if it looks big because it's a damn tool watch. And yes it does matter what a YouTube guy says since they're the ones who got a slew of people into watches in the first place. Fuck me dead this small watch meme is dumb.

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repostan from last thread, what do you think?

>>62136369

/g/ and /fa/ are pretty much the only places I've seen the small watch meme pushed hard, every watch forum I've lurked doesn't at all, so don't mind the idiots here

>>62136404
>Cheapestcuckstraps doesn't make the marble NATO in 22mm
Fucking kill me.

Also that'd probably be more aesthetic if it was the DBC-610.

>>62135984
>>62136003
Thought that pic looked familiar. :)

Hope it didn't get knocked around too much in shipping. Didn't really test it out that much but I know the day aperture was fucked up beyond belief.

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>>62136369
>okay if it looks big because it's a damn tool watch.
Fuck off.

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Can /g/ recommend some non steel casing watches. thx

>>62136586
hey i just wanted to say thank you again. I love tinkering with movements but don't get many chances to.I truly appreciate the opportunity. Im going to try to get it running or scavenge another dg 2803 which luckily is cheap and plentiful.

>>62136952
Literally every slav shitter that isn't an Amphibia.

>>62136888
At least there are some people on this board with taste.

Are Vostok Amphibia automatic divers good, or shit?

>>62137024
I don't frequent this general. Therefore, would it be possible to expand the generic term slav shitter. Thanks.

>>62136952
brass is really a shit metal for a watch. gold is as well but if you are wearing a tux and a gold dress watch its probably only hitting your cuff link(which should also be gold) if anything. any daily watch you have should really be steel and most are for that very reason.

>>62137047
movement is pretty shit tier but if you get a reasonable one it will probably just work the same way for 15 years.

having said that i fucking love them and waste my money on them.

>>62136437
no problem we don't care if you look like shit.

>>62136437
Wear it in good health!

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>>62137109
I had one. It feels like it kills me. What about plastics? Considering something like this right now

>>62137299
ceramic or sapphire case

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>>62137017
Ofc :D

Look forward to seeing what u can do with it! Doge says hi

>>62137342
Sounds pretty expensive. I'm a casual.

>>62137109
why is brass bad?

>>62137047
they're good for sixty bucks
they're certainly not as good as a decent (~$250+) japanese watch, let alone a four thousand dollar swiss one
expect shit accuracy and shit fit and finish, but at least the scuba dude on the dial is p sweet

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>>62137047
Pretty much the cheapest automatic 200m diving watch you can get if you're into that, but the movement is pretty sloppy even if it is pretty damn robust which means that you could get one that runs +/- 6 seconds a day, or one that runs at +/- 60.
The upside is that the movement is really robust for it's design and price, they're a great way to get into modding and servicing watches, and parts are cheap as hell. For example, if you somehow fuck up the movement when you're installing a new dial, you can just buy a complete movement for like $30.
They're pretty much the Slav equivalent of Seiko 5s now that I think about it.

>>62137342
Rado is known for ceramic watches.

>>62137414
Brass is a pretty soft metal, which means that it gets dinged and scratched easier than something such as steel. Plated brass is also god awful and will always look like shit in under a year. Look at those old Pobeda and Raketas for example; a lot of them would look instantly better if they had stainless cases instead of alloy plated brass ones.

>>62137414
>The Mohs Scale of Hardness for Metals

Here is a list of the hardness grades for some of the metals that you are most likely to come across in your everyday life, especially when dealing with jewelry:

Lead: 1.5
Tin: 1.5
Zinc: 2.5
Gold: 2.5-3
Silver: 2.5-3
Aluminum: 2.5-3
Copper: 3
Brass: 3
Bronze: 3
Nickel: 4
Platinum: 4-4.5
Steel: 4-4.5
Iron: 4.5
Palladium: 4.75
Rhodium: 6
Titanium: 6
Hardened steel: 7-8
Tungsten: 7.5
Tungsten carbide: 8.5-9

Brass isn't really hard, and it's not really durable enough for things like watch cases. It is, however, low friction, so you'll often see parts of watch movements fashioned from brass, especially in a brass/steel or brass/jewel interface.

>>62137408
:D

>>62137477
Omega is using ceramic as well................................................................. for their 46mmx16mm cases

>>62137621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhE-UWQsw1M

is it actually a good idea to boil perlon straps?

>>62137663
ive never had to or experienced any perlons being too stiff. I only purchase eulits however.

>>62136404
>>62136473
is it just me or does cheapestnatostraps take fucking forever to deliver?

>>62137675
I mean it is coming from Sweden, but I think my last order from them took somewhere around a week and a half.

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>>62137413

>>62137703
>a week in a half
ok I guess it's just me then. been almost a month

>>62137675
>>62137703
>order straps from cheapestnatostraps
>figure it'll take a while to get to california, so i pay three bucks for tracking
>only find out now that the german delivery service they use doesn't track orders once they get to america

epik simply epik :^)))

>>62137498
>>62137523
What I meant was some anon saying

>I had one. It feels like it kills me.

Does brass hurt you?

>>62137621
Rado makes slightly more modest sizes.

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>>62137047
just ordered this like a retard ; gotta wait a month to get it as one of the parts was out of stock.

>>62137886
What Vostok did you buy where it didn't come with an option to have the 659?

>>62137794
I was talking about steel cases

>>62137909
i got a hand wind movement and noctilumina hands . that item on the bottom is so they can assemble the whole thing for me.

>>62137961
Why do you post this every thread since you've gotten it? With nothing to say as well?

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How many people died to make your timepiece /wt/?

>>62138147
probably like 40 millions russians

What is the best watch for travelling?

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>>62138170

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>>62138170
ez

>>62138253
power reserve
gmt
alarm

all the features the body needs

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>>62138253
its nicer in black

>>62138301
actually looks pretty decent here

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>>62138161
>Working at the Chistopol factory
>Ilya drops a gear because he's so hungry that his hands can't stay still
>Sent to gulag for being a saboteur and enemy of the State
>The rest of the factory along with you gets sent to gulag as co-conspirators

>>62138040
why not? does it not have to do with watches? tell me what you'd rather have it say

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finally fuck

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Is it wrong that I want this watch?

Too bad it's overpriced for what it is in Yurop.

>super esteemed and oldest watch brand on the planet
>its name literally means white bread

uhh, blancpain fanboys, care to explain?

>>62138555
the one on the right could make a pretty a e s t h e t i c combo with an appropriately 80s miami style watch

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help please
the gf found this seiko and i wanna know how old it is

5Y23-8049 [A1]
how do i find out how old it is

>>62138646
iirc its the name of the town. The town is named after a baker.

>>62138665
give me some inspo on an 80s miami style watch?

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>>62138725
idk, maybe one of those plastic cased casios that are made to look like metal?

>>62137673
Damn, my Eulit was almost as stiff as my cheapestperlonstrap.

Thoughts on Bond NATOs, /wt/?

>>62138711
http://www.watchsleuth.com/seikodatefinder/?mvmt=5Y23&case=8049&serial=151978

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>>62138725
Ebel Chronograph or gold Datejust. Maybe something like a Seiko 7A38/7A28 too.

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>>62136888
>>62137035

You two can keep samefagging it every thread but 36mm is not a male sized watch in 2017. Unless you have complete bitch wrists. It doesn't give you "class" either. GB2 Reddit.

>>62139209
>He isn't comfortable wearing both 45mm and 35mm watches
Nothing is wrong with 36mm watches. There is something wrong with insisting that small watches are inherently better because of their size.

>>62139209
Only insecure people insist on wearing large watches. you keep it at it friend maybe they won't notice the baby dick.

>>62139284
Small watches are objectively less obtrusive regardless of wrist size.

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>>62139333
>>62139284
Stay mad wristlets.

>>62139406
good post

>>62139333

Theres no debate on just size alone it's the constant people saying dive watches need to be tiny as fuck. It makes no sense.

>>62139406
Are you upset that I said 45 instead of 55?

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>>62139442
Dive watches should fit your wrist but be larger than dress watches. If 35mm dress watches look good on men over 6 feet tall with 7.5 inch wrists then they should move up to 40mm dive watches. You faggots are throwing 45mm turtles on and they actually overhang your wrists and you say its fine and call people wristlets. Even if it doesn't literally hang over the sides of your wrist that does not mean it looks good or is the correct size for your wrist. And assuming your are not the extraordinarily small percentage of the population with wrists that are larger than 8 inches you really have no excuse but instead have poor taste.

daily reminder that every watch is a fashion item first, and tool second
dive watches and pilot watches are no exception, they are vestigial instruments meant to evoke images of the past, and are 100% fashion items
muh legibility of the dial at arms length 200m below the surface of the water is NO excuse to wear a fuckhuge 46mm panerai memepiece that hangs over the sides of your wrist like a cantilevered bridge

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>>62139523

This has been a fuck you watch for big wrists for 50 years.

So is Vostok the new meme watch? I haven't been to a watch general since everyone was buying Seiko 5s and asking if Daniel Craig was /ourguy/ because he wears a NATO strap

>>62139786
vostok has been the cheap shitter everyone has bought in russia forever and in the west since the early 90s

>>62139786
poorfags are buying them in droves, soon good vintage vostoks will cost 150 apiece
better buy them now, goy!

>>62139786
They've been the new meme watch along side the Seiko 5 for years now; specially the 420 with a blue scuba dude on something like a red, white, and blue NATO.

>>62139810
> and in the west since the early 90s
I've never seen anyone wear a Vostok in my entire life. It's only a /wt/ meme.

>>62139881
Well all my friends growing up were Russians so maybe i just had a unique experience.

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How do I get a cute watch boy bf?

>>62139904
That's not how this works. All the guys into watches are either super straight, turbo Chads, or a combination of fat/autistic/old.

>>62139881
Do the majority of people you are around not wear mall-tier trash?

>>62139904
Cute boys don't care about mechanical watches.

>>62139904
people that like mechanical shit like guns and watches are typically not homosexuals; some are i suppose so good luck?

>>62139962
Yes I do.

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>>62135412
Is the Seiko 5 a good watch for everyday use? I need a cheap watch to use at work, and it's 70€ on amazon but it's got good reviews

>>62139985
Post pics if you're cute.

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>>62139985
yes if ur cute pls be my watch bf

>>62140059
it is a good watch for 70 dollars but you should save up 300 and get the sarb 033 instead

>>62140059
It's fine. It's essentially the cheapest new automatic watch you can buy. They're durable and have a huge modding community. Don't expect to win any originality points or street cred with one. They're somewhat small (38mm), so if you have large wrists it might look a bit weird. There's literally dozens and dozens of styles, so check out which one you want (http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/). They're essentially everyone's first mechanical watch.

>>62140059
It's like the default cheap mechanical alongside the Vostok Amphibia. If you're getting a watch that'll get banged around a lot, or is around magnetic fields, then look into getting a quartz.

>>62140100
btw i am saying this and would personally not buy one myself but if you like that aesthetic it really is the best watch you can get for the money.

https://youtu.be/ksuOIc-Qnjg

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>>62138147
6 million mountain Jews.

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>>62138725
Seiko SBPG001? It also happens to be the GOAT lcd quartz.

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>>62139209
(You)

>>62140149
this blows my fucking mind

>>62140105
>>62140112
>>62140116
nice, thanks. I'd love to have the kind of money to buy a more expensive one. I just need one that looks good and does its job fine :)

>>62140219
I honestly can't tell because half this board and the vast majority of modern watch owners have this mentality. Which is also strange because until recently despite all the changes in style watch size was relatively constant. Case shapes came and went but people were not wearing bricks.

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>>62138725
reee don't buy one I need it

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Thoughts on grid dials? I came across this Seiko 5 again and I remembered how much the dial clicked with me.
Do you think it screams "Graphing interests me" too much?

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overcompensating manlets are triggered by this image

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>>62139523

that turtle looks completely fine on that guy....what's your point dude

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>>62139550

>no excuse

Yes it is, because that was the design of the watch in the first place. What is with this small watch meme? You guys are absolutely stupid if you think a microscopic dive watch actually looks good, it looks weird as hell seeing a tiny tool watch on a wrist that can easily wear a submariner or SKX sized diver.

>>62139523

This is fine. It's bordering on too big, but it's fine. When you're taking an up close shot of your wrist, it doesn't taken into account the entirety of the person. If it's your average person who's a manlet and doesn't work out, yeah it's going to look even WORSE.

Pic related is absolutely bad and is too big.

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Let's see your grails!

>>62140439
holy fuck! found the tastlet

>>62140473
it is not fine at all you are blind

>>62140235
after your first Seiko 5 you'll never look at chink shitters (DW,MK,Guess etc) the same way again, most seikofags change the cheap bracelet to a decent leather strap and instantly makes the watch 10x better.

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>>62140496
lol that's a pretty affordable grail

horoLOLogy fags are ridiculous

horrorlogy faggots are the bottom end of this pro-goygle forum

horologerie is ascam

clocks round your neck

like a nigger

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>>62140496

>>62140559
Not for me atm. but yes i'll definitely get it someday

>>62140496
mine is going to be essentially impossible to attain by the time i can but fuck it.(tfw your car grail was the Mclaren F1 since before it cost a million dollars)

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>>62140596

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>>62140496
Wish I had a 2500$ grail.

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>>62140496

>>62137498
Some watches look nice when the brass starts to peak through. Mostly pocket watches, but on Bocтoкs it looks nice when the bezel starts to brass up.

>>62140617
good taste friend

>>62138533
How about what it is, and why you like or dislike it?

>>62140434
It also triggers Richie fathands and his fat fanbase here on /g/.

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>>62140672
Love Daniels and Roger Smith

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>>62140706
>you will never own a bespoke RW Smith, Voutilainen or Dufour

>>62140725
Today I learned Smith has a really decent youtube channel where he talks about his techniques.

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>>62140496
God I can't wait to finish college and start saving. Practically the only motivation other than getting the fuck out of Portland.

Leather straps on divers: faux pas or acceptable?

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Was looking at watches for two hours today, finally got this. I legit prefer it to any sub 100€ watch, and cost me 18.

>>62140790
>he fell for the Pacific Northwest meme
lmao, enjoying your girls with armpit hair yet?

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>>62140813
Tbf my family moved here when I was 1yo. From LA. So it could be worse.

>>62140813
Maybe his parents fell for the meme.

>>62140846
>>62140847
Ah, okay, fair enough.

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>>62135412

I have a regular 5610 I use daily

Is this worth getting for the carbon fiber and titanium back or am I being a faggot?

>>62140243

Because nigger culture.

>>62140875
If you really like your 5610 and want to upgrade then why not?

What's the cheapest watch that suits the following criteria: ETA 2824, sapphire crystal with interior AR, dive watch, 200m water resistance, 42mm or less in diameter. Is there any sort of website where I can impute this and get some results back?

>>62140767
dial and case making videos are excellent. he doesn't have movement videos which is quite sad

>>62140997
>Is there any sort of website where I can impute this and get some results back?

Yes, this site.

Some diver fan autist here will give you options.

Not me though. Cause divers are often gay. With a few noticeable exceptions.

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>>62140687
well, it's a Seiko SUR078, and I love it. It retails at $220 and I got it new for $40. I just got a bunch of straps and this is one of them (it looks a lot darker in person, probably just the flash.)

>>62140997
steinhart. if you would take a miyota 9015 there are more options.

>>62140997
the ocean one ceramic https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/diver-watch/ocean-1-black-keramik.html

is essentially a submariner for 400 dollars

>>62141153
>>62141162
K, I'll check those out. Thanks! Do you happen to know anything about the Certina DS? Titanium case and bracelet and all the specs I mentioned ( bar the 43mm diameter) for 600 on Jomashop seems intriguing.

>>62136078
either way its just lazy design/ the pitfalls of a standard movement put into many watches

>>62139442

This. Wristcucks need to go fuck off with TGV.

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>>62136369
>fuck me dead
i see where this is going

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>>62136952
raketas, vostoks, poljots, sekondas.slavas. etc.

(Pic related) my raketa big zero was bought by a guy and serviced, and with incabloc shock protection its sturdy as hell.

however, a brass case is only for a dress watch so thats the only time i wear it. it would just end up damaged and shit looking otherwise

>>62141200
>Certina DS
its fine

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>>62137047
in my opinion, if you replace all the shitty brass parts (bezel, crown) then its better than a seiko 5 (the only other automatic at that price)

>>62138591
Nothing really, just keep in mind that Bulova's glory days are long gone.

>>62139147
I love that site, but I have a few Seikos that don't show up.

>>62141370
The upshot though is that the serial gives you the year and month as long as you can figure out the decade from some other source.

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>>62138591
i think its fucking awesome personally
>>62138555
i need a plain diver to wear fag natos with :(
>>62138147
65 million (pic related)
>>62140166
a vintage seiko is definitely on my list. probably a GS rather than a KS special though
>>62140419
reminds me of a swimming pool changing room floor

>>62141397
I've got one Lord Quartz, the movement and case code on the dial are slightly different from what's on the caseback (7143-7040 on the dial, 7143-7030 on the caseback), so I'm not sure if the caseback is original, or if they simple used the same caseback for several models in that line.

>>62141691
Dial codes and case codes are not the same on Seikos, as the same case was used with multiple dials, and the same dial could be used in multiple cases in the same line of watches.

>>62141727
Cool, I was hoping that was the case. Thanks Anon.

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>>62138555
What watches are those going on?
I got an odd number of compliments yesterday with the Tisell. The power of gaudy natos is surprising.

>>62141760
nice high school mechanics textbook, nerd

>>62141760
how the fuck did you get a tisell they are always fucking sold out

>>62141811
Kek it's actually review problems for the Physics GRE, you just saw a lame page.

>>62141834
I emailed the guy who makes them.

>>62141890
sone of a bitch. link me that cucks email adress

>>62141946
Just get it from the website, it's at the bottom.

>>62142008
ill give it a shot
thank you m8. Just curious how much did it end up costing including shipping?

>>62142032
It was around 200 burgerbucks, but I can't recall the exact amount.

>>62142058
tks m8

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>>62142132

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Girlfriend wanted a Casio so we could match. She didn't like any of the Baby G line so I got her this little guy

She'll come around on the Baby G eventually

>>62142150
awwww you guys are so broke; so cute:)

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>>62139981
>people that like mechanical shit like guns and watches are typically not homosexuals;

eh

>>62142330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2dJ-JUzhVs

>>62142144
is this loss

>>62140812
Link??

>>62139904
Where you live anon? Do you have hairy arms

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>>62136404
>>62138555
>>62141760
MEMENATOBOIS

What's a good watch that doesn't need a battery?

Also, is there a site to browse seiko watches? not sure what I want just yet.

>>62143395
anything mechanical- 'a good watch' is subjective

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-watches-127/

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>>62143395
If this is a watch for innawoods, have you considered something like a solar Casio?

>>62143877
>no backlight

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>>62138591
I actually owned one for a couple of months, it definitely looks amazing and the smooth sweep is awesome.

But it looks weird on the wrist, very weird.

>>62139406
why is the virgin sitting on a bench right next to the road? am i missing a meme here?

>>62137886
what website?

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>>62140496

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>>62144411
of course it didn't post with the text...

not bait at all as some will say, want to be that one douchebag old guy with the solid gold sub/speedy because i'm so rich i just don't give a fuck what you think about me or what my watch says

Realistically pic related is my real dream watch, that or a patek that dings the time at me

Recommend me a 19mm black leather strap /wt/, and where do I buy good straps if im from europe?

>>62144374
it's on the bus anon, r u blind?

>>62144665
Camille Fournet (they make the straps for JLC), ABP Paris, etc.

>>62144675
Ty!

>>62144719
They're not cheap, just so you know.

>>62144724
And what about something on the cheaper side?

what do you call a punk kid salesman who wears a Rolex sub simply as a show off piece but has no horological interest and doesn't even know how to use the divers bezel timer?

>>62144750
(You)

>>62144737
There are those vietnamese croc straps if you want cheap. Otherwise I remember reading good things about watchgecko's straps.

>>62144750
A yuppie.

>>62144760
i'm a poor-fag asshole i couldn't even afford a sub and besides i prefer the explorer style of watches.

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why is reddit so clueless? is it so hard to google around?

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>$275 MSRP
>7S26
Seiko why?

I need help with picking a sub-$500 watch for my dad's 50th birthday. Any recommendations/tips lads?

>>62144830
I don't know much about that watch, but it looks like a franken, and it can't have 15 jewels if it was made as late as the 80's.

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HUBLOT

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>>62145197
If you can find one in that price range, a 38mm hamilton intra-matic is fine.

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>>62145232
>no second hand

>>62145278
Yes, it's a dress watch.

>>62144830
I would cringe if I saw a watch like that irl no matter what movement it has.

>>62145285
Still gross.

>>62145232
It looks like a nice watch, I'll dig around more. Thanks for the help. Also don't listen to >>62145278 that's some random troll

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>>62145295
Opinions are now trolling. Cute.

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>>62145212
Not just a franken, but Raketa never made that dial, or those hands for that matter

>>62145287
yep, the original 24 hour Raketas look allright in my opinion. And that watch probably has 2609 with one wheel swapped out

>>62145295
>>62145232
What's the point of having a memenical when it has no seconds hand?
>inb4 muh craftsmanship
It's a fucking ETA.

>>62145295
>>>/reddit/

>>62145313
>Not just a franken, but Raketa never made that dial
Oh, I didn't read the post that said it's a Raketa, I thought it might have been something else, like some 90's export shitter from some dying factory.

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Am I the only one that loves this watch? Every time I post it some anon says it's ugly.

>>62146583
I personally think it's disgusting, but wear it if you like it. That's the point.

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>>62140496
This is so cool to me

>>62146583
Not my kinda thing but you're probably not the only one

>>62144907
BECUASE FUCK YOU SEIKO IS THE BEST. OH OH OH YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO MAKE A PROFIT BY PUTTING THE 4R36 IN THERE THAT COSTS THEM THE SAME AMOUNT TO MAKE? STOP COMPLAINING SEIKO IS THE BEST.

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so apparently this model is now out of production and impossible to find/order and yet here it is(the only one) at one of the bigger department stores in town, a lil more expensive than i expected at $129 but the more actual watch retailers everywhere say it's not available the more i want it, the watch shop(ironically in the same building) says it may need regulating at $44 as the watch may have been sitting in the display cabinet for years...hmmmmm.

>>62138555
how is the quality of cheapestnatostraps?
are the holes worn out easily?

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>>62138147
probably 10 kids in chinese sweatshop

>>62146866
Does it come with the pube on the dial, or was that a mod?

>>62147532
limited edition you fag

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It feels great when you find the perfect strap for a watch.

>>62147861
keep posting this bro maybe one day someone will tell you they like it

>>62147924
hehehe hopefully :3

>>62147861
Change the strap and I will say I like them. I can already smell the sweat underneath the strap.

5/7 Nice Šturmanskije

>>62142612
[spoiler]NJ....when i dont shave...[/spoiler]

>>62148031
The strap is new though.

>>62148061
holy fuck another one of you cucks lives here

>>62143446
I thought my Tag was mechanical, but it requires a battery and needs to be changed every 3 years or so. I would rather have a watch I wouldn't need to worry about.

Thanks for the link!

>>62146832
JOKES ON US BECAUSE YOU KNOW SEIKOJA IS GOING TO GET EZACTLY THAT, AND FOR A CHEAPER PRICE TOO!

>>62148333
no but really why is seiko moving so slowly?

>>62148702
Because memelords still buy SKXs with 7s26 movements for 200 bucks because they think they're "iconic". Also, Seiko charges like $650 for equivalent watches with movements from this millennium, and people buy those, too.

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Just finished servicing my Voscuck Shitfibia 2416bumboi. It was only three years old, but this was the first watch I bought when I got into watches, even before I became a qualified watch repairer. So naturally I smudged and dirtied everything up while modding it, and looks like I must have damaged the hairspring before, so it was already time for a cleaning.

It went from running like shit at 180° to bretty gud accuracy, roughly +10s/-3s, with .1ms on the timegrapher, with 300° amplitude. Also reinstalled the second dial instead of the third that had a horrendous lume job by me.

>>62146583
I like it

>>62145313
What do the red and blue sectors indicate?

>>62148873
It's for timing sea tides.

>>62148841
how far did you strip down the movement? also lume application has gotta be the hardest fucking thing to do. Oiling is easier for me personally but i also just suck at doing anything remotely related to art.

>>62148300
Does your Tag have sapphire infused glass?

>>62148873
The colour of your moms tits after I speedbagged them.

>>62148931
Timing my sides.

As in timing their orbital injection burn.

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>>62148937
>how far did you strip down the movement?
Completely.
>also lume application has gotta be the hardest fucking thing to do
It looked like fucking shit. Pic related. But at least it was bright as fuck, being genuine Nemoto Luminova.

>>62148983
fuck me lad why did you keep going?

>>62148838
>SXK
The SKX is a bit of a special case in my eyes. It's an ISO certified dive watch. What's the cheapest hacking, handwinding ISO certified dive watch? My guess is that the answer to that question will be several other Seiko models before you get to a non-Seiko made watch.

I believe the SKX continues to use the 7s26 to keep it the cheapest ISO certified dive watch on the market.

Note that this isn't a defence of Seiko using the 7s26 in any other non-Seiko 5 model, which I think is silly at this point.

>>62149046
seiko is making the 4r36 for maybe a penny more than the 7s26 stop defending them. The skx could sell for the same price with the hacking hand winding movement.

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>>62149014
Once it touches the dial of a Vostok the resin of the lume melts the dial paint under it, so once you go at it there's no turning back, and no way to correct a fuck up. Luckily Vostok dials are dirt cheap. Probably because the paint is so shit.

I had better luck with an old enamel pocket watch dial. By this time I had also figured out the proper thickness of the lume.

>>62149067
Feel free to make a list of the 10 cheapest ISO certified mechanical dive watches on the market. I think you'll see my point for yourself.

>>62148873
supposedly 4 hour shifts for sailors, but honestly who the fuck knows

>>62149107
I know i learned this lesson as well. I was reluming the dots on a nice blue scuba dude and i started on the indices. a bit of lume touched the dial and ruined the whole thing.


>>62149118
you have no point they can sell the same watch with the 4r36 for the same price and make the same profit. They do not do this and you are defending them. not really anything else to say.

>>62149118
invicta sells a watch that is not "iso certified" but has a strong case and good water resistance with a solid link bracelet and a nh35 movement in it for 80 bucks. you saying iso certification and better lume costs seiko 120 more dollars per unit?

>>62149163
>invicta sells a watch that is not "iso certified"
(You)

>>62149175
i dont dive. i shoot, snorkel, jump in lakes, pools, and go camping. I have a solid steel hacking hand winding watch that i have worn in all these situations that is accurate to within a second a day and cost me 80 dollars. You are defending a massive corporation selling 200 dollar non hacking non hand winding watches.

>>62149199
post a pic of said Invicta

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>>62149265

and while you may not like the aesthetics that does not pertain to the price argument.

>>62149046
>ISO certified
Who cares about ISO certification? There's numerous 200m dive watches at that bracket, paying for certification costs doesn't make a superior watch. If you sincerely think that one 200m diver made by a major manufacturer is going to fail while another 200m diver will succeed, you're a moron. Also, Casio doesn't double the price of a DW5600 to certify it as a quartz chronometer like Breitling does, even though it would certainly pass. Certification means very, very little.

That guy's NY0040 earlier in the thread, despite being ugly as sin, came out in fucking 1996 and still handwinds, and it was actually used by military forces, albeit spaghetti ones. I'd take that over ISO certification every day.

>>62149199
I was talking specifically about ISO certified dive watches, of which the SKX is one of the cheapest on the market, and the only other watch even close in price with ISO certification is the Citizen NY0040, which doesn't have hacking either.

Seiko sells the SKX at $200, and sells 4r36 powered ISO certified dive watches from $230. No one else sells an ISO certified mechanical dive watch with hacking and hand winding for less than $230 so fuck right off.

>>62149537
You do realize actual scuba divers use wrist-mounted dive computers, and have done so since the 80s, right? Nobody gives a shit about ISO certification, except you, apparently.

>>62149520
>I'd take that over ISO certification every day
It's already well established that you are a fucking moron who doesn't understand the difference between pretend dive watches and individually tested ISO certified real dive watches:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diving_watch#ISO_6425_standard_for_diving_watches
>The standards for diving watches are regulated by the ISO 6425 international standard. The watches are tested in static or still water under 125% of the rated (water) pressure, thus a watch with a 200 m rating will be water resistant if it is stationary and under 250 m of static water. The testing of the water resistance is fundamentally different from non-dive watches, because every watch has to be fully tested.

http://www.hautetime.com/iso-6245-divers-watch/83717/
>ISO 6425 does require that each watch is tested to 125% of its depth rating prior to being sold, so there is quite a safety margin in this."

http://ticktickticktick.com/buying-guides/how-to-choose-a-dive-watch/
>Water resistance to a minimum of 200 meters depth is generally recommended. In order to meet this depth rating, a dive watch has to meet ISO-6425 specifications, which is a certified international standard for compliant dive watches. Each watch has to withstand a pressure rating that is 25% higher than their stated depth, meaning the dive watch has to pass a lab test simulating 250 meters if it is stated be 200m by the manufacturer.

>>62149537
you did not even respond to the point made in the comment. Seiko can sell it for the 200 dollars with the r4r36. you have no argument. why are you defending seiko?

>>62149577
You do realize no testing is done to the individual watches, right? So, by the ISO criteria, which of these does the NY0040 not fit? What about the Orient Ray? Or that dude's shitter Invicta?

1. A rotating bezel that specifically allows divers to track the total time elapsed under water from the beginning of their dive

2. Luminescent features on the dial and hands that allow for easy readability underwater

3. A screw-down crown that keeps water from entering the watch

4. A case made of water-resistant materials that protect the watch from corrosion and rusting

6. A movement that has both shock resistance and magnetic resistance

7. A minimum water resistance of 100 meters (330 ft)

Yes, we can see that you're capable of googling the specifications. That doesn't mean you understand their implications.

>>62149577
>Rolex, the No.1 luxury watchmaker in the world, never bothers with the ISO 6425 requirements. You wouldn’t see a single line about ISO standard on their advertisements, since people know what they should expect from Rolex, their brand reputation does all the talking! Their classic dive watch, the Rolex Submariner, had already earned the trust of pro-divers long before the ISO 6425 was born.

http://www.donatwald.com/does-a-true-dive-watch-need-iso-6425-certification/

>It is the testing of each and every watch that makes it that many watch manufacturers do not sell their watches as ISO 6425 certified, as it can be cumbersome, expensive and don’t always add anything. Rolex never claimed that their watches meet ISO 6425 requirements, yet the Submariner and Sea-Dweller have been the watch of choice of professional divers for decades.

http://www.hautetime.com/iso-6245-divers-watch/83717/

Wow, I can Google shit too!

>complaining that the 7S26 doesn't have hacking
who gives a shit about hacking in a movement that gains 20 seconds a day lmao

>>62148983
Also a note to Vostok owners. I looked at the date complication and you only have to turn the hands back to before 9PM for the rapid date change finger (marked 7 on pic) to move back behind a tooth on the date wheel and reset the mechanism. You can see the date wheel through the dial window jump a little when that happens.

Also you can immediately start turning the hands back right after the date jumped at midnight, no need to go to 2am or some shit as it's recommended on the Internet.

>>62149806
My entire argument and point was only that its annoying seiko doesnt put the 4r36 in the skx as it would only cost them an additional few cents to do; some seiko cuck comes in saying i am an asshole and its still a great deal at 200 dollars.

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>>62149838
Forgot pic. Part that flips the date is number 7.

>>62149843
Agreed, it would be a good watch with a movement from this century and maybe some fit and finish improvements (applied indices, different colorways).

>>62149142
>>62149107
Could you coat the dial in some kind of clear coat to prevent this?

Also love that pocket watch dial. Do you have a pic of it fully assembled?

>>62137052
>would it be possible to expand the generic term slav shitter.
Russian watches, and cobbled together knockoffs of such from former easternblock countries.
Amphibia is a steel dive watch; many other russian watches are brass plated with chrome, like the Amphibia's non-diving cousin model, the Komandirskie.

>>62149997
Coating the dial would probably destroy it. I've seen an Ukrainian Ebay hack job like this, the dial was ruined.

The pocket watch was the restoration job of another watchmaker. I only saw the dial.

>>62149307
meh, could be a lot worse

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Mail day

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So the Speedy Pro is superior aesthetic-wise to the Rolex Daytona (maybe not in build quality though), but which one has the better movement?

Assuming current Daytona vs. current NASA-spec Speedy Pro.

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>Cheapest Cuck Straps is having a half off sale on their Perlons
>But it's only the regular Perlons and not the ones with an adjustable buckle

>>62150908
Kawaii as fuck.

>>62150908
>what day is it?
>angry

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>>62150791
The current Daytona has arguably the greatest automatic chronograph movement ever made. Obivously shit by Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin, etc. might be "fancier"in terms of finishing, but it's unlikely they're going to be more accurate than the +/-2 seconds a day standard on the Daytona, and they sure as fuck aren't going to beat it's reliability.

The Omega 1861 is very good too of course, and has durability on par with the Rolex, but the downside is going to be it's slower beat rate, cam-actuated chronograph, and non-COSC standards (although you can get it up to COSC standards). Modern Omega is shit though, I would buy a pre-Swatch one honestly.

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>>62150908
>Plated case

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>>62138147
55 nazis

>>62150997
>Modern Omega is shit though, I would buy a pre-Swatch one honestly.
I believe the Speedy Pro is still a completely pre-Swatch design, and therefore the only non-shit current Omega. Swatch can't touch the design or else they lose the NASA spaceflight certification and all the marketingbucks that come with it, since NASA can't be assed to re-evaluate a new design for EVA use, because no one actually wears watches on spacewalks apart from a few autistic Russians.

NASA already flat-out rejected the original Mark II Speedmaster (a watch that Omega design specifically for space use) in 1970, because they couldn't care less as long as they had the good-enough Speedmasters for EVA's.

>>62145220
>Not having iced-out boxing shorts

>>62149617
Seiko already sells multiple ISO certified dive watch models with the 4r36 for $230 and $275. Literally the whole point of the SKX having the 7s26 instead of the 4r36 is so that it can be cheaper than the $230 Seiko charges for 4r36 powered models.

Complaining about this when no one else but Citizen sells an ISO certified dive watch for less than $300 (which also doesn't hack) is absurd. Why don't you go complain to literally every other dive watch maker that they don't sell hacking and handwinding ISO certified divers for $200?

>>62149642
>You do realize no testing is done to the individual watches, right?
Bullshit. >>62149577 cites three separate sources showing that ISO certified dive watches are individually tested:
>every watch has to be fully tested.
>each watch is tested
>Each watch has to

>>62144432
Isn't this the watch Putin gave to a random factory worker ?

>>62151017
I won it for $10 so I'm not complaining

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>>62151225
Nah that was an Aqualung. One was given to a factory worker, another to a shepherd's son, and a third was tossed into a concrete foundation that was being poured.

>>62149792
Gee you mean everyone trusts Rolex to individually test their dive watches regardless of ISO certification? Wow! Now what the fuck does that have to do with inexpensive dive watches were ISO certification proves each watch was individually pressure tested?

Oh that's right, nothing, you're just shitposting. AGAIN.

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>>62150997
>The current Daytona has arguably the greatest automatic chronograph movement ever made.
Well, it's definitely one of the greatest, but I'm not quite sure I'd put it at number 1. I guess it depends on how much emphasis one puts on the tool functionality of the chronograph mechanism vs. the timekeeping.

As a timekeeper, it's probably better than the Zenith El Primero, but as a purely functional tool chronograph the Lemania 5100 has a directly driven chronograph hand with far more shock and g-force resistance than any other chronograph movement ever made (as far as I know).

>Modern Omega is shit though, I would buy a pre-Swatch one honestly.
Can't argue with that. Besides, Cal. 1045 > Cal. 861/1861

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>Vostok Amphibian tested over 800m and here people are arguing over ISO ratings

>>62149307
>>62149199
I've got 1 seiko, 1 orient, 1 vostok and an invicta.

The invicta is a way better watch than the others. Hacking nh35a movement, clear caseback, accurate, custom rotor. It's about time these invicta memes stopped. They are outstanding value.

>>62151578
I saw that video too, it looks like because of the compressor design Amphibias don't flood until they're destroyed at 800m crush depth.

(((Swiss))) bourgeois "engineering" < Communist worker-peasant ingenuity

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I just impulse bought a Bulova computron similar to this one. Been eyeing the G. Gerlach kosmonauta, but this scratches the same styling itch and it's got some cool historical early quartz/American watchmaking charm to it.

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>>62151669
>Who would win:
>A horological empire based on the knowledge of intricate watch design passed down through generations from craftsman to craftsman
>Or some old engineers paid in bread

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Should I buy this? Slav shitters (CZ and Russian)

>>62152256
If you are a hobby watchmaker sure, if not it's just trash.

>>62152256
Holy hell that's a lot of shitters.

>>62152313
I have quite a fuckload of them already.

>>62151200
Nope.

>ISO Testing
>Testing standards dictate that a watch undergoes several pressure tests to ensure that the case, crown, and crystal are properly water-resistant and can withstand plenty of pressure. A watch that conforms to ISO Standards is marked with the word DIVER’S to distinguish it from other water-resistant watches. An important thing to note: ISO doesn’t actually certify or test watches themselves. Which means that you’re going off the watch company’s word when it comes to an ISO-standard watch.

https://blog.crownandcaliber.com/dive-watches-101/

Nice Malaysian 7S26 though!

>>62152287
I did not win the auction anyway. It was sold for ~200USD. Not worth at all.

>>62151281
Again, the ISO is not a testing body a la COSC. It merely defines a set of standards to which companies can choose to adhere. Testing is done by the company, and is not public. If you knew anything about dive watches, you'd know this.

See >>62152551

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Also, someone on this thread sent me some ebay auctions on used Accutrons. I bought this one for 60USD. Working and keeping time.
Fair price, thank you Anon.

>>62151469
somehow I knew you would post, but at least your autism is right and that watch is a beauty, sad that their prices rose so much

>>62152188
>mountain village craftsmen who can afford to get lazy because their marketing driven prestige is already enough to sell their overpriced product
>patriotic mechanical engineers given a military project to fulfill, threatened with the gulag if they fail
I wonder.

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If Rolex Mickey Mouses never existed, how come Chrono24 has this many of them?

>>62151155
why are you defending seiko? the monster cost more because it larger and has more lume and is marketed to be more expensive. Again the movement costs maybe a few pennies more.The SKX looks a lot better than the monster and they increased the price by a few pennies and put a better movement in it that would not be a bad thing would it?

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>>62151469
Man, Omega really got the Tonneau case just right.

>>62140961

It offers no major improvement other than slightly reduced weight and slightly better resistance to wear.

It also looks worse and is more expensive, would replace something I've worn for years

>>62151155
Nobody gives a shit about ISO certification except you, dude. Every diver from a reputable maker satisfies the criteria, and yet you're the only one who's drunk the Kool Aid.

>>62153185
I bet you think that COSC certification is a meme and that your Seiko/Vostok isn't certified not because they couldn't qualify, but because the Japanese and Russians knew more than the (((Mountain Jews))).

>>62153223
ISO box-checking and COSC certification and testing are two different animals, bud. From above:

>An important thing to note: ISO doesn’t actually certify or test watches themselves. Which means that you’re going off the watch company’s word when it comes to an ISO-standard watch.

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Are Spring Drive quartz divers ISO rated?

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>>62138147
2 wristlets.

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>>62153351

>>62152661
There's lots of designs to choose from and you buy the ugliest one possible, kek.

>>62138147
This makes me wonder, did they use forced labor in WWII German watch factories? Like Stowa produced watches for the Luftwaffe.

>>62153251
Did you know the building your in isn't tested by ISO (or w/e standard your engineers use) either? ISO make standards and keep them up to date. That's all they do they never test the end products for any of their standards.
You should read up a bit on self regulation, how it works, what the aim of it is and why it's important.

>>62153583
Indeed, which is why it's ridiculous to think that ISO certification means anything in a dive watch from a reputable brand, when the individual watches are tested only by the manufacturer.

Hence, Rolex and Omega don't bother listing "ISO 6425 Certified" on their watches, because it would be akin to Mercedes bragging about having seatbelts and airbags. The specs for ISO certification are very lax, and the durability of one 200m "ISO certified" diver is not going to differ greatly from another 200m diver, ceteris paribus.

As the article above stated: "So it’s very likely (even guaranteed) that you have plenty of dive-worthy watches out there that perform just fine without the ISO stamp of approval.".

>>62152661
Glad to hear it.

>>62153714
Rolex specifically is a different beast. They are the standard that the ISO standard is based on. It would be a step back/down to only be ISO Spec.
And I'm not arguing with You, personally I feel the cheap ISO way he's kind of killed what it meant by showing that the standard cab be met so cheaply that within Seiko /and decent brand every diver can pretty much be expected to pass.
It makes me wonder if on the little instruction book info shit there is a little bit saying the meet the standard and they just don't advertise it because it does mean next to nothing.

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>>62140496
achievable grail?
doxa sub 750t professional
fuck off piece?
ressence type 5

Which design looks better for casual wear?
AW5000 (blue/black) or
AW5005 (lime/black) or
BM8470 (black) or
BM8476 (black)?

>>62146583
ugly as sin

>>62153714
>Indeed, which is why it's ridiculous to think that ISO certification means anything in a dive watch from a reputable brand, when the individual watches are tested only by the manufacturer.
And how many "reputable brands" are selling diver shaped watches for less than $500 that you would trust to actually be usable as dive watches without ISO certification or having the watch pressure tested yourself post purchase?

The whole goddamn point of ISO certification on affordable dive watches is to signify that each and every one has been pressure tested by the manufacturer.