/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>62132012
men at least put the last thread faggot

So who here's going to get the 18x17, 306-key macropad on Reddit?

Waiting for my filco mj2 (blue switches). It's my first mech. I'm very excited!

Gonna get some new keycaps in a few months once the originals start to wear out.

Are tai hao any good or should I pay the super expensive signature plastics price?

>>62132012
prev. >>62108215

>>62132253
Tai-hao are fucking garbage. Thin crap covered in an awful sticky "anti-biosis" coating that nobody likes, and their PBT caps frequently warp.

Skip both them and SP, buy something like EnjoyPBT from China. You won't find keycaps with a better price:quality ratio.

>>62132304
Cool, thanks.

>>62132253
Don't buy $20 Tai-lmao keycaps. Spend the extra 10-20 bucks and get something good. The cheapest EnjoyPBT set is 40 bucks, and you can get NPKC and Gateron PBT for like 30 bucks

what is the intended purpose of the three rows of F1-12 keys?

>>62132658
It looks good

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Should I cop?

>>62132658
Ergonomics and muh aesthetics you fucking idiot

>>62132658
Believe it or not some people use keyboards for work. It isn't uncommon for POS keyboards to have 48 F keys

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>tfw I want a new keyboard
>tfw I can't decide what to buy

>Unicomp Model M
Pro:
>buckling springs
>dye-sub PBT caps
>a e s t h e t i c
Cons:
>Classic is huge, Ultra-classic is ugly
>build quality seems questionable
>no media keys

>Matias Tactile/Quiet Pro
Pro:
>matias switches are better than cherry mx
>PBT caps
>has media keys
Cons:
>Tactile is noisy, Quiet is expensive
>thin ABS caps with awful lettering
>the glossy finish is a terrible choice and the overall shape isn't that great either

>Leopold FC980M
Pro:
>great form factor
>PBT caps
>seems very well built
Cons:
>Cherry MX Blue/Brown/Black/Red
>no media keys
>some keys like printscreen have to be accessed through the Fn key

>Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M
Pro:
>best form factor
>has media keys
>seems sturdy
Cons:
>Cherry MX Brown
>Shit coated ABS caps
>LED backlighting

Help me!

>>62132945
Just buy an Ibm model m

>>62133110
They're more expensive than new stuff, also I wouldn't buy an old used keyboard anyway.

>>62132945
So tactile being noisy is a con for matias, but not for unicomp?

>>62133535
It's just in comparison with the Quiet: if you want I could have just put that in the Pro:
>Tactile is cheaper/Quiet is silent

This is just to underline that the fact the Quiet is less noisy is an added benefit that however comes at a significant cost, because overall it's more or less the same matias switch, just like I've the cherry mx comes in a wide variety of colors, but they're fundamentally all the same cherry, at least the "mainstream" ones.

>>62133758
>significant cost
Isn't the price difference like $20?

>>62133785
I'm buying from the EU: on The Keyboard Company the Tactile Pro comes at a reduced price of £95, while the Quiet Pro stands at £138, which is a 45% difference. In dollars it's like $55 of difference.

>>62132945
The 122 model M has media keys

>>62133895
That keyboard is impractically large.
Also
>that arrow keys layout

>>62133874
Well I heard the switches on those boards get a lot of keychatter, I almost got one myself.

>>62133223
You can get a Model m in very good condition for around $70 and the build quality is way better than any keyboard made today.

>>62132253
What guns do you own?

>>62132606
How are NPKC?

It would be very convenient because they're available on amazon, and I already have enough in amazon gift card funds ready to go.

>>62134306
I'm not allowed to own a gun because I've been in a mental hospital before.

I'll en spending like 350€ on a Razer Orbweaver Chroma for gaymes and an POK3R ISO with Spanish keycaps.

200€ for the POK3R and 150€ for the Razer,

The POK3R I had on the whislist or whatever is now out of stock so now I have to buy another that is more expensive and buy the keycaps from mykeyboard.eu.

Is there any cheaper alternative?

>>62134553
Try to obtain a BB gun to make photos of it together with your filco.
Dont forget to post them here !

>>62134620
Why do you hate that guy? You seem triggered

>>62134539
Gateron/EnjoyPBT make the best PBT keycaps you can get blanks for like $40 on originitave and it ships pretty fast I got mine in 4 days

>>62134000
I've found a few posts about bad QC for Matias keyboards and switches, but at the same time I've found posts saying that the chatter either goes away on its own, or that you can open the switch itself and clean it, and this should solve.

>>62134266
Beside the fact I don't want buy a used keyboard, buying from outside the EU means shipping and importing fees make everything uneconomical.

>>62134657
No i think its kinda funny

>>62134704
Do you know not how to clean a keyboard? Also buy it in the EU then.

>>62134704
The combination of that & not being able to replace the shit keycaps was the nail in the coffin for me. Ended up going cherry clear and I am pretty happy so far.

Now that its out for some time
KBD75 or noppoo choc mini

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Is there a guide anywhere for this? I only find soldering ones.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/XD75Re-pcB/3034003_32818745981.html

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>>62132304
Yeah what's the deal with Tai Hao pushing that awful coating? I spent hours scouring that gross stuff off my caps when I got them, it serves no purpose but to make them feel dirty.

Are they still putting it on their cap sets?

>>62134858
That looks like a nice receiver, do you have a good sound system?

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Where can I get actual silver keycaps?
I'd like them to be real silver for it's antibacterial properties, but most places who sell "silver" keycaps, it's either some other alloy or painted.

Should I get the Miami night or regular Miami Maxkey set?

>>62135239
It would cost too much to make and nobody but you would buy it, so it does not exist.

>>62135314
You're an idiot, there was just a drop for 99% silver keycaps.

>>62135314
Silver coating is cheap as fuck. What are you talking about.
I'm pretty sure actual full silver keycaps exist, as do full gold ones.

>>62135239 (me)
Copper ones would be fine too.
Just saying.

>>62132012
T-triple F-row?!

Shit browser lost the whole session where I was hoarding all the keyboard stuff. Gonna order XD75RE pcb tomorrow

>>62134851
A guide for what? Its just legos m8. They even sell a PCB that doesn't require soldering. The guide to program it is on the store page.

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>>62135095
Not in here. I have a decent receiver and speakers in my livingroom but in here I just made use of a Yamaha home theater speaker package I bought in the 1990s and a 500W Yamaha receiver off Craigslist to make use of HDMI audio out. It works plenty gud for gayman.

Forgive the old pic, it's the only wide angle shot I have. The rear speakers are out of frame but you can see the flat speaker cables running along the wall at penis height.

>>62135588
>that samsung monitor
Nice setup anon. Just curious, are you a trump supporter? And why does your keyboard look completely different than other pictures

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Thoughts?

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>>62135626
No, and because that pic was taken before I got this cap set.

But he is the duly elected President of the United States of America and I'm not going to whinge about it. I respect the office and therefore him.

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>>62135626
Oops wrong pic, THIS cap set.

>>62135785
>>62135808
So you would of rather see Hillary elected? Seems kinda weird considering your love for the 2nd amendment.

Where can i get a black braided, preferable 2m, miniB usb cable for my pok3r?
can't find them anywhere

>>62135588
i have that same monitor or at least a really similar one. nice guns

>>62135679
>How I drew keyboards when I was a kid

Whats the advantage of this?

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>>62135903
Good gravy no. I don't ride party lines. Hillary's flaccid corpse was propped up so unfairly and enthusiastically by the media that I voted for Donald reflexively out of despair, not out of support for his campaign or ideals. Or at least not most of them, I do believe American interests should always come first, as any nation should always prioritize it's own interests first and foremost.

He's made no shortage of poor (imo) decisions so far.

>>62135936
It's hard to beat anon, even still. I think it was the first 120 hz monitor and I've gotten so used to the pixel pitch that bigger monitors with needlessly huge resolution are unappealing to me.

>>62136230
What do you think his worst decision has been so far?
>I do believe American interests should always come first
It sounds like you are a closet trump supporter, afraid of being labeled a racist. Just come out of the closet man, the more of us the better. We know you aren't racist.

>>62135992
Cool points. I can understand XK75RE, with functional block in the middle, thus increasing distance between hands. But for a small ortho with both hands together, I just don't see how you can move fingers up-down without bending your wrists badly. Only if you hunt and peck...

>>62135581
i suck at legos

>>62133915
Yeah, arrow key layout is was bugging me too. I whish there was 122 key kbd with normal arrow cluster.

>>62134858
What keyboard is that?

>>62136879
Filco Majestouch

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I found a old Apple Extended Keyboard ii in the back of my school, got to keep it, has alps cream switches and is just dirty, although I'm gonna clean it up did i do good /mkg/?

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>>62136332
>>>/pol/

>>62137050
HEY QUIT STEALING MY (YOU)S

>>62136879
Filco Majestouch.

How much of a pain is it to remove and replace stabilized keys?

>>62134798
Wait, are alps/matias compatible keycaps so uncommon/ludicrously expensive?

>>62135588
anon confirmed for fat. has a floor protector because his fat ass is grinding the wood.

>>62137948
If you paid for anything expensive you would protect it too anon.

>>62132012
>has an abundance of keys, often duplicates
>no shift or capslock

>>62137827
Two wire keycap removers.

>>62137501
>cant give one example of a "poor" decision
GO BACK TO POL FAGGOT NAZI
k bro

>>62138076
>actually wanting a capslock key

>>62138356
Spotted the non-programmer

>>62138356
CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

>>62137458
You did find. Just as long as the switches are not super shitty due to dirt.
Give it a good cleaning / retrobright it.
You'll also need an adapter to get it to work on modern computers.

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>>62138803
Thanks, and the inside is surprising cleaner then i expected

>>62139108
There is something hot in how these chips are exposed. It's probably how audiophiles feel about lamps.

>Budget
between $100 and $500

>Location (continent at least)
Europe, but it doesn't matter, I can import

>Preferred switch type
Gateron blue

>Layout
ANSI QWERTY

>Form factor
65%. 75% is also OK, but 65 is better.

>Backlight
Doesn't matter as long as I can turn it off

>Other stuff
- must be programmable
- keycaps will be replaced anyway so they can be shit ABS, I don't care. Or there can be no keycaps included at all.
- can be a kit. I'd even prefer it to be a kit. But it's not necessary.
- alloy case. Also, as flat as possible, also, with minimal or no bezels.
- If the PCB can be used with those hot swap holtites (or is hot-swappable OOTB), that would be great, I might want to replace a few switches with heavier ones in the future, or try a few strange ones, and while I don't mind soldering, desoldering can be a pain.

>Budget
Below $80 would be best

>Location (continent at least)
USA

>Preferred switch type
Some kind of browns

>Form factor
TKL or 84 key

>Backlight
RGB for some eyecandy if possible

>>62139594
Magicforce sounds right up your alley.

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Thoughts on these novelties?

>>62139720
I thought the magicforces were only 60% form factor.

>>62139729
I like them, but the color scheme and some of the words turn me off. Like "godspeed" makes me cringe.

>>62139729
buy it and show flat-earthers your cool keyboard

>>62139748
They're about 65% or 70% I can't remember which, but they have everything a tkl has except for function keys,but they can be accessed on a layer

>>62139748
>>62139770
There's also the cooler master master keys tkl at exactly your price point.

>>62139594
If you don't use the F keys too often, there's Drevo Calibur. Cheap, RGB almost-TKL. Also wireless if you ever need that, but can be used in wired mode. It doesn't have the top row so the F keys are on a layer.

>>62137458
Get an adapter from hasu, not that imate crap.

>>62139802
I don't trust rebate forms they usually have some kind of bullshit condition plus newegg has tax for me.

>>62139820
The drevos look like a good option, I'm considering the gramr because of the adjustable feet but some people have had the keys die. It's probably my best bet though it has shitty keycaps and only has browns in white.

>>62139882
Found the masterkeys on Amazon for $80

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part 1 arrived

thanks for the recommendation anon, seems like it'll work well enough. i ended up ordering the non-chink one

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>>62139882
>It's probably my best bet though it has shitty keycaps and only has browns in white.
I have no idea how good the keycaps are on Gramr, but I've had the Calibur for a while and they were surprisingly very decent for the price (quality wise), although with a very ugly font.
Also, I see a black gramr with brown switches. I don't think it's RGB though, just single color backlight

>>62139988
Yeah, it's backlight which is better than nothing I suppose.

>>62139940
You mean the no backlight version? I could almost get the iKBC 87 which I assume is higher quality and would allow me to add leds to it if I wanted.

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>>62139753
I like the orange colorway more so than the blue colorway personally. I also wanted different colors for escape and enter and those only came in text.

>>62139729
I hate them, I wish it offered orange mods in normal text instead of meme labels only.

I just want the blue alphas with normal orange mods for a ghetto gulf livery keyset but nah

I tried the Cherry MX caps but they jiggle around too much. Is there something out there that is more solid?

Could someone explain why switches needing a higher force for actuation are recommended for typing?

>>62140844
Cause with linear switches it feels weird. It feels like you didn't press the key at all. It's awful. Also you keep accidentally hitting the space bar and shit because a slight breeze actuates it.

What's the cheapest USD mechanical keyboard I can buy to wet my toes into this autism land?

>>62140923
Buy an IKBC keyboard from aliexpress or amazon. It's about 100 dollars. Anything less than that is going to be trash.

>>62140923
literally just go into an electronics store.

>>62140915
Not everyone has heavy hams for hands.

>>62140923
Just ask /csg/ for whatever cheapest they stumbled upon. It's going to be Chinese anyway.

>>62140923
A dell AT101w

>>62140915
On my ancient rubbermat dome piece of shit, the shift keys are really heavy and feels like they're fatiguing my pinkies a lot more than they should. So I guess seeing actual numbers but not being able to measure my current keyboard means I want to shy away from heavier switches, even if they're magnitudes better than what I'm using.

>>62141292
Stack coins on it until it depresses.

>>62141315
32 pennies, which a scale in the kitchen said is 78g
Should I be looking at heavier switches for the overall keyboard and buy some lighter switches separately to replace some of the pinky keys?

How are 60% keyboards for general use in tiling WMs and terminal in linux? I'm considering getting the pok3r due to aesthetics and the programmability, seems like that would make it much more usable.

>>62141647
Should be fine however without the arrow keys means you might have to create different bindings for some WMs that default to arrow keys to switch panes.

Personally I use the arrow keys quite often.

How might the quality on this $10 plastic case be?

www.ebay.com/itm/232046320457

>>62141688
Hmmm, is it not possible to remap the arrow bindings to hjkl somehow?

>>62141722
Yeah you can. Most WMs should allow you to do that. But sometimes you might want to use both. For example, the arrow keys resize the panes, and the hjkl puts them to focus. 61 keys kind of limits how many keybindings you have available to set. 87 keys gives you way more breathing room.

>>62141768
I already have all the stuff in i3 remapped to hjkl, I was just wondering if it was possible to remap the systemwide arrow keys to hjkl via the keyboard.

>>62141876
Only if you reprogram the keyboard, and that would require a reprogrammable keyboard. Some 60% will have fn+hkjl for arrow keys. The poker I believe uses fn+WASD, which is retarded because you can't do it single handedly because the fn key is on the far right side and WASD on the left.

>>62141906
The poker has built in FN and programmable PN, I guess you can't remap the FN keys though sadly.

>>62141694
REPLIES

>>62141623
78g is pretty heavy man, blacks bottom out around 60g

>>62137501
Thank you for protecting our gun rights as it is near impossible in CA to do that. Also your annoying cause you don't have another keyboard to post. One more think, here is your (you) from me to you.

>>62140923
Tada 68

>>62142302
That's only a whole 2.11oz though, thought they moved by the pound.

What's with these ~$50 keyboards shipping from hong kong on newegg? Ajazz Geek AK33. Knock-off switches and keylogger pre-installed?

>>62142302
Yeah, it's why I'm looking around now.

>>62137501
buy another keyboard nerd

>>62142302
Actually its closer to 90g. They actuate at 60g

>>62142832
Bullshit. The bottom out is nowhere near that heavy, if it was I'd be getting finger strain from them like I did with 80g ergoclears.

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>>62142727
>>62142808
>you don't have another keyboard to post
Excuse me???

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i just bought a new vortex poker 3 with mx blues for $90. what did i just get myself into

>>62132012
My G110's spacebar broke
Any similar keyboards with a shitton of custom keys?

>>62135679
where the fuck are [ ] ??

fucking autists..

>>62135679
Those icon modifiers are still dumb. They're basically novelty blanks, apart from Delete and maybe Shift and Caps Lock nothing has an immediately obvious function.

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>>62132012

>>62132787
they're separately mappable then? why not give them a letter besides f for differentiation

>>62144849
Keycap availability.

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I'm kinda wanting to get this for my office work.

I have a diy dox at home from 2013.

>>62145311
I really want one as well, but I really don't care for the price tag or the ABS keycaps. Finding replacements would be hard as FUCK. Right now I'm using a Pok3r with these flat profile PBT keycaps and I can't go back to DSA or OEM profile keycaps anymore. What's stopping you?

>>62143212
It's a very good keyboard. Very durable, well built, easy to clean and generally a great keyboard. I replaced the shitty keycaps it comes with by default with some PBT keycaps. I would also suggest remapping Caps Lock to left Ctrl. It's so comfy that I can't go back.

Does anyone have SA keycaps? Are they shit to type on?

>>62145790
Yes

Someone make low-profile spherical top sculpted keycaps already

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/preonic-mechanical-keyboard

Is anyone buying this memery

No. Ortholinear is trash for hipsters that measure the quality of a keyboard by how many function layers you need to make it functional.

>>62145830
>Estimated ship date is Feb 28, 2018 PT.

I'd unironically buy one if they came assembled.

>>62140676
Anyone?

>>62145830
No, it looks shitty to type on.

>>62134553
Where in the world do you live?

What's the best way to silence mx clears...o-rings or some type of dampener?

>>62142962
You're retarded. Use google and you'll see that the bottom out force for blacks is no where near 60g

>>62146872
It's nowhere near 90g either. 75g is 15g away from both that and 60g.

>>62144732
tell me more about those keys
I bought a programmable keyboard and this is going to be very helpfull

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I know this isn't 100% keyboard related but I don't want to start a new thread.
I have a G303 mouse and recently my scrollwheel started failing. At first it stopped registering very high scrollspeeds but now it stops registering at almost ANY speed.
This sucks really hard because I use a lot of programs with sliders where I need the scrollwheel for fast and precise adjustments.
I also while researching found out about "rattle" and noticed that my mouse rattles too.
Should I try to open the mouse up and fix it or just Chuck it?
The following things do not alleviate the problem:
>rebooting
>Patching
>Using different OS

>>62146883
Its 85g tho

>Budget
150$
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Gateron Browns or newer meme. PCB-mounted.
>Layout
ANSI or hipster shit
>Form factor
Bigger than 60%, up to TKL
>Backlight
Not important.

Looking for a relatively compact keyboard to try with QMX clips hence PCB-mounted switches. Preferably programmable or supporting hardware Dvorak.

>>62146990
there is nothing special about it. i just tried to build a functional num-pad, so i can input numerical shit and access every special character or positioning keys i need. Oh, and i added the "comma+space" I use the F-keys for something OS/DE relevant shit like to change the XFCE theme, tile windows in different ways...
The space invaders section is used to fire up scripts and applications.

>>62147039
I have g303 too. Does your wheel scroll well mechanically?

I haven't opened it but I think it's the usual simple construction: wheel with holes between light detectors. I sometimes get misregistered scrolls and they are likely caused by hairs or dust.

Using a lens blower into the holes around the wheel seems to help. Compressed air can will probably clean it better.

>>62147103
82.5*

>>62147103
https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/linear/cherry-mx-black-mechanical-switches/

>>62147205
>>62147039
Opened it up and cleaned it. it was full of dustmice and muck.
Should Give my stuff a cleaning more often.
Just, nbow the little teflonfeet that cover the wholes are all bumpy and wont stick properly anymore. what's a good glue/adhesive that replaces the one it came with?

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Should I get Miami or Miami nights?

>>62147642
Standard alphas, nights mods.

I just got an ultra classic
Is the top bit of the covering supposed to feel like it's not on correctly?

>>62147472
I had to fuck with G9x a lot and I don't like opening my mouse because how easily it ruins the feet. Just buy a new set off Ali: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170829060855&SearchText=g303+feet and avoid using any adhesives that would ruin the plastic.

>>62147401
>Kailh Shilling club
No
I trust Cherry's official specs over some shill
http://cherryamericas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mx_cat.pdf

>>62147758
I'm too poor for that but that would look good

>>62147808
>trusting specs over real measurements

>>62147844
Go away shill. No one wants to buy your Kailh switches. If those specs were wrong then no one would buy cherry MX switches.

How do I choose the US on Taobao I cant find it. This is the symbol for the US right? 美国

>>62147895
Google translate works just fine, but that is the correct symbol

I've been using a Model M for about 10 years now, and now I would like try out a modern mechanical keyboard.

I don't know shit about the dozen types of switches, and I don't want to assemble my own keyboard.

What brand should I look for? I want a complete full size US keyboard that has similar tectile feel as the Model M.

Recommendations?
No gaymer shit.
No extra USB ports
No display screens
No macro keys

>>62148037
Any keyboard you get will be a downgrade from the Model M

>>62148037
Filco full size majestouch 2.

>>62148037
Get a ducky. Very clean/simple design (basically no branding), no usb ports, no screens, no gaymen rgb lights. You also get great high quality PBT caps

>>62147642
Miami is pretty gay so Miami Night

>>62148037
Basically this >>62148041
The only thing you can do is trying another form factor for as a sidegrade:
Leopold fc980m and cooler master masterkey pro m are more compact while retaining the functionality of a full size keyboard;
Ducky fill the space above the numpad with volume keys;
Matias have fancy switches (but seem to have bad QC), better than the cherry switches that are mounted in the above mentioned keyboards.

You can also look for ergonomic keyboards

>>62132945


I own this in black and love it.

Whats a good TKL that uses Gateron switches?

>>62147108
Heeeeelp me. Just something not too big and not too small, PCB mounted!

I will even be content with software Dvorak!

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>>62148282
>I own this
>no picture

Alps PCB in 80% layout or bigger when? Neither my jewlios nor topre are tactile enough for me, and KBP V80 has terrible quality control.

How do some of you not bottom out when typing? It's physically impossible for me to not bottom out. I'm typing on gateron blues btw

>>62148486
Kingsaver

>>62148573
Not bottoming out is a meme.

Are there any Matias-compatible plates/cases that aren't Preonic or Planck?

>>62149102
Yes. Tai-hao makes some. Also Alps use the same cases as cherry switches. Its just the plate you have to worry about

>>62148573
Blues have a relatively light peak force.
Get something around 100g peak, so even if you bottom out it'll be relatively soft. Cherry Greens or Clears (if you still want a relatively light actuation) for example.

>>62149128
Err, I need some things clarified. I thought Taihao made keycaps. What do you mean by "the same cases"? That Matias would physically fit in a plate designed for Cherry?

Is it possible to lube mx switches while they are still soldered?

>>62149180
Tai hao also makes Alps clones, as well as their parts. Cases mean a case for the keyboard, while plate means a mounting plate for the switches. You can put a modern 60% Alps keyboard into the same case as a cherry one, but the plates are different.

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Would this keyset look weird on a magicforce 108?

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Thoughts on this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-G710-Blue-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-with-Cherry-MX-Blue-Switches-/352041361948?epid=1791944507&hash=item51f74ce21c:g:~b8AAOSwCQZZAjlG

>>62149688
Big chunk of cheap plastic with meme gaming features. Nothing special, but for 50 bucks it's not that awful either, considering everything that gets posted here starts at $100.

>>62147790
>>62147205
Thanks guys, you were great help

>>62149688
If you plan on buying keycaps for your keyboard don't buy that as it has a nonstandard bottom row.

>>62145681
I'm pretty fine with the DSA on my og ergodox with ergoclears.

Currently the price tag is stopping me a little bit, considering that I'll have to pay import tax on the purchase price + shipping to EU. Also I'm not sure if the dox will play nicely with the linux based thin clients we use at work.

>>62149688
Looks like an over the top version of the 810. Go with the 810 or something else or go with this if you like the gamer asthetics

What's better cherry green or clear?

Any light switches that don't feel overly mushy? How are Gateron Clears? I think I'd get something light. So far I've used MX Brown, MX Blues and Buckling Spring. MX Reds I've only tested for a little bit, not enough to get used to but I didn't really like them. If I wasn't too fond of reds, should I just give up on a lighter switch?

I'm ok with browns, but they do tend to feel a tad mushy and the tactile bump is a bit pointless compared to real tactile switches.

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>>62150511
If I were your roommate and you had clicky switches, I would murder you in your sleep.
>>62150534
Topre.

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new keyboard soon™
i plan on getting the wasd code with clears

>>62150605
I would bash your head in with my Model M

>>62150534
How light do you want them? If you have the autism you can build a custom keyboard with 10g snap action switches

>>62150605
I type at night on blues nigger

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>>62150625
>>62150658
Completely fine if you have your own room on the other side of the flat, but if I have to eat, sleep, and breathe the same air as you in the same excuse for an apartment, you're dead.

>>62150605
I've been looking at Topre, sadly Realforce costs more than I really want to spend. Can the topre clones be found anywhere with ISO?
>>62150635
I haven't really tested any really light switches, so no preference. I just feel like I want something slightly lighter than my Blues and not as mushy as Browns.

Form factor I've settled for my home setup is TKL, full size at work. Currently using Poker 2 at home (I want non-layered F-keys) with blues and Ducky with browns at work. Sold my Unicomp Model M the other day.

Should I try MX clears? I currently have gateron blue switches and I don't feel the bump when typing

>>62150928
clears have a nice bump but are super heavy. I modded mine to ergo clears (same switch with lighter springs).

>>62150928
If you like slamming your hand into the keys to get them down, then sure go for it.

>>62150980
>>62151004
>20g more
>heavy
get finger dexterity you weaklings

>>62132012
>>62134851
>>62144732
>>62145311
Is that gayest keyboard layouts thread?

why do people say greens are way too stiff? I've never had a problem with typing with them

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>>62148037
You could get a new model f if you want to go all out.
Other than that, I say stick with your M or get an m13. Although the keycaps aren't as nice as the model M's.

>>62151242
Don't type on me or my son ever again

Is there a better TKL than the ducky one for $90?

>>62150605
>topre
>$500 rubber dome

>>62151530
Nope, I am typing on one right now actually. Keycaps & overall quality is great.

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>>62151221
Industrial M13's have better caps, black m13's unfortunately use pad printing.

>>62152087
Yeah, I've thought about finding a broken industrial m13 to salvage the caps from, but I don't think it would look right.
I wish unicomp would make some black caps with white legends. But I don't believe you can do white on black dye sub.
Is that correct? I mean, I have yet to see anyone do it.

>>62152302
Its possible, but it looks like shit.

>>62152302
If you found a broken industrial m13 you should fix it and sell the black m13

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>>62152344
That's what I figured.
>>62152369
Yeah, if it's fixable I absolutely would.
I probably wouldn't sell the m13 for collection reasons. But I'm talking about an absolutely fucked industrial m13 who's only good quality is the caps.

>>62152434
You could ask Unicomp to make you a set using the original fonts and keycap colours. They do actually offer that.

Anyone know how armyourdesk is? They have a keyboard on sale and I assume they're decent since they have paypal.

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>Vortex Poker RGB pre ordered got pushed back

>>62149387
Yes, I thought so. But I'm looking for something bigger than 60%. Any ideas for fitting plates for Alps DIY? They are arguably the hardest part to find.

Do or DIY...

>>62153188
I regret ever subscribing to assdrop. Haven't ordered anything yet, but already pissed at their mail spam - and a lot of their shit seems delayed.

Well, bought one of the 2017 poker IIs for $83.70 shipped. Hopefully this ain't a scam.

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>>62153943
Oh I got it from mechanicalkeyboard. I've heard bad things about massdrop. The delay is only a week, but still I want it now.

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help please. i want custom keycaps. like, fully custom keycaps that i can do exactly this with. i want to choose fade of grey like this and an accent on the top. how can i do this for around $40?

>>62147159
i mean... i want the plastic elements, where can i buy them?

>>62154770
It's stuff i already had or came with the keyboard...

can anyone recommend me good keycaps? im getting sick of the ones that come with the Magicforce

>>62154921
Chink DSA

>>62143171
I surrender

>>62150610
Keycap link please

>>62155122
aliexpress search "enjoypbt japanese"

>>62154980
they look great, are these the only ones you would recommend?

>>62155396
These are cheap and can be ordered through amazon. They are thick PBT and quite nice.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=npkc+keycaps

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>>62155356
DSA is a type of profile which basically means the height of the keycap. PBT is a type of material some keycaps are made of and are resistant to shining unlike ABS keycaps. Cherry is also the most preferred profile btw it is slightly lower than OEM keycaps which are what are on your magicforce.

>90% of this thread is chink shit
Whats the point. Might as well merge this with /csg/ and save everyone the trouble. Keep the real keyboard discussion to geekhack and deskthority

>>62157350
Every mechanical keyboard is chink shit. It's expensive chinkshit because people keep buying $200 keycaps like idiots.

>>62157350
>NEETs on /g/ can only afford chinkshit
Who would thunk?

>>62155897
I need some DSA in my life. I hate keyboards with curvatures. Can you get by just buying keycaps, or you need the kb designed that way?

>>62157505
There's chink shit and then there's good shit. Most of this thread is chink shit. Good shit is still made today and it doesn't cost all that much, but poor brazilian monkeys can't even bother to spend the extra bucks to get it.

>>62157657
Just buy keycaps

>>62157350
WIll I regret putting 30 dollar aliexpress keycaps on my 200 dollar keyboard?

>>62157776
Depends what kind. If it's those blank Gateron/EnjoyPBT keycaps then no, those are the highest quality PBT keycaps you can get.

>>62157776
As long as its something good like thicc PBT that's double shot, dye-sub, or blank, then you're good.

>>62132945
ibm made a tenkeyless of the model m.

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Dankest memes

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>>62157978
Its still almost as big as a full size keyboard, even with the slimmer case.

just had my majestouch 2 with brown switches die because i knocked over juice. loved the keyboard and i'm about to go buy another, but figure now is as good as any to ask for recommendations, since it was the only mechanical i've owned so far

>>62158046
Go for Leopold 980m.

>>62158046
Get another majestouch 2.

hello yes is this autism anonymous

>>62158361
Do you not own a mechanical keyboard?

Can anyone recommend any good DIY acrylic keyboard kits similar to winkeyless?

I originally wanted to buy just the PCB for a Planck and make my own/buy an acrylic case but no one sells them and after designing my own and uploading to laser cutting companies it would be ridiculously expensive to make.

>>62158548
Aliexpress has some

>>62158559
Keyboard kits or acrylic planck cases?

>>62158613
yes

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Spoonfeed me on Alps DIY projects or I'll meme myself with this!

>>62158883
http://imgur.com/a/Y0foU
now go fuck yourself

What is a reasonable price to pay for a Model M?

>>62159262
no more then 80 bucks

Any interesting Cherry profile mod packs other than the CMYK RGB typical stuff?

>>62160004
Massdrop ran some Green, Red and Yelloy Jamaican-themed GMK mods a while back.

What the fuck is this shit?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clack-Factory-Salute-Keycap-Topre-/182731795878?hash

I heard soon we will have rollup keyboards you can carry in your pocket

Or keyboards you can project onto any surface

>>62160640
Those already exist

>>62160616
Wow, Topre fans really are retarded.

>>62160616
>toprefags overpaying for memes
Everyone is shocked!

>>62160904
Even for them it's shocking though, it's just one keycap they could buy 2 new rubber domes with that money.

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>>62160616
>artisan

GF wants a mechanical keyboard. Only wants to spend $20-40.
Wtf do I get?
Is female so aesthetics are more important than anything else.

>>62161062
Magiforce 68

>>62148329
basically have to go custom no one sells prefab pcb mount. luckily 60% is cheap and easy as fuck to source parts for

how do i get a telephone wire-like wire for my keyboard? ive seen them before and i dont know what they're called

Are Pheilcia keycaps any good?

>>62161397
coiled cable

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I've flipped the spacebar on my Tada68 with blues and now it doest click. Am I being memed or something?

I've got some Gateron blues from aliexpress and they click on the down and up stroke too. But I have a keyboard also with Gateron blues which only click on the downstroke. What's happening here?

>>62145311
Prepare for the wrist rests to give you lung and skin cancer

>>62138462
I don't get it, why do you need a caps lock for programming?

>>62162890
He's probably a C dinosaur who insists on declaring his #defines LIKE_THIS
Really pathetic if you think about it.

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Who /tada68/ here?

>>62158921
>http://imgur.com/a/Y0foU
>HHKB meme
So, Alps/Matias is either full-size or weird mini pre-built or nothing larger than 60% for DIY?.. I'll go fuck myself then.

>>62163224
I almost went with it but decided on a race 3 instead

>>62163224
where do you get the white version? I don't want to mess with taobao.

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My mj2 should arrive shortly. I'm so happy.

>>62165428
DESU I'd only get a mj if I want to be part of the modding community. Leopold and Ducky are better keyboards for the same price

>>62165509
I'm in Canada and only 1 model of Leopold is available and it has a giant ugly bezel. Ducky is all LED ridden gamer shit. We don't get any of the normal looking models.

>>62165545
Yes you do. You're just dumb

>>62163193
yeah, or enums/consts

>>62165554
No. The only leopold available domestically is the FC900. The duckies are all gamer shit. You can order from the USA (like mechanicalkeyboards.com) but that will be more expensive and require duties paid when it gets here.

>>62165721
So pay your duty to the United States, like you should. If it weren't for us, there would be no Canada you piece of shit leaf.

>>62132253
I don't mind th keycaps but they aren't as good as others. It really depends on how much money you're willing to spend, I like DSA keycaps a lot.

>>62166031
That's not how duties work, idiot. It's paying the Canadian government taxes on imported goods, not to the United States.

>>62166972
I bet you're from Quebec as well

>>62145724
The defaults of the non-LED version are PBT I think.
t. anon who soon realized backlight is not a good tradeoff for ABS

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I tried out a 4 cm high Corsair mechanical keyboard, and it was too fucking high. Got pain in my wrists from using it after an hour with the wrist-support thingy. Recommend a good, comfy, low keyboard.

>>62139430
TADA

>>62166972
Once trump demolishes NAFTA you'll be paying us so you should be happy, idiot. How's Justin?

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>>62165428
Good for you, I have no date of shipping for my new switches, ordered 8 days ago from the US
>an order from Hongkong gets here within 3-4days

>>62167590
is the tada68 pcb-mounted? or are the switches soldered

>>62167908
Soldered.

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>>62167798
>travels 600 miles in 14 hours

>>62168056
Is there even a good keyboard that has pcb mounted switches for sale?
>inb4 build one

>>62168279
Cherry are the only company that still refuse to use plates.

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Found a Filco Majestouch 2 with browns while thrifting, for 4 burgerbux. Hopefully it works

>>62169050
>browns
You'd better hope it doesn't work.

>>62169050
I just got mine a few minutes ago. With blue switches. It's like an orgasm for my fingers and ears.

>>62169243
Yeah browns aren't my favorite either, but beggars can't be choosers ya feel

>>62169278
Nice. I've been using a Magicforce tkl with outemu blacks and desu typing on either browns or blues is a nice change.

>>62169243
Just drop this shitty meme.

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>>62161821
god is punishing you for being stupid

>>62169455
it's not wrong

>>62167387
Please help me out, keyboard autists.

>>62169836
get a taller chair or a lower desk, dumbass

>>62169794
Except that a few years ago they were the >current meme. Until every company and their mom started putting Browns on every keyboard ever.

Also, how do you put spaces and hit enter on this guy? Is it what arrow keys symbolise? How does it make you bend your wrists?

>>62169855
the down arrows are spaces, one of the FN keys will do numbers and the other f keys

it is painful and agonizing to use
ortholinear is fucking retarded unless you have a split keyboard

>>62169836
http://barbre-ergonomics.com/files/office_ergo_brochure_9-2015.pdf
Sit like pdfrelated, remove wrist support, lower the legs to make it as flat as possible. Put your fingers on a homerow and move your arms backwards until wrists are straight.

>>62169848
Faggot, my chair and desk are both fine. My present, crappy, cheap keyboard is about 2,5 cm tall, and that's far more comfy than 4 cm monsters.

>>62169455
Browns are shit. I unironically like rubber domes more than those scratchy bastards.

I wonder why it's the go to choice of literally every manufacturer.

>>62169929
>1.5cm is too much
better just fucking give up on mechanicals

>>62163224
MOD-M besto switchu

a couple days waiting on deliver to try zealio 67gs on a kbd75

>>62167792
>How's Justin
It hurts and stings.

>>62169960
Definitely nothing "scratchy" about mine. Did QC go down in a few years?

>new datacomp switches

Wait what

>>62170032
What switches?

>>62132012
Just bought a HHKB have I just got memed?

>>62170049
ALPS apparently

>>62170065
So, Matias, Taihao and now Datacomp? Could it be that in a couple of years Alps will stop being an awful "Better than Cherry" meme and get rid of chatter and actually get keycaps and keyboards instead?

>>62170061
It's more expensive than amechanical and it's not even mechanical. Topre is a meme, barely different from rubber dome.

looking for a compact wireless/bluetooth mechanical keyboard to pair with my PS4. so far no takers but this guy showed up out of nowhere

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bastron-ipad-tablet-mechanical-keyboard-mouse

amazon can ship it sooner and has silent options, but have no idea what switches these are. switches are a vague "blue" so im guessing outemu or kailh but amazon offers a "silent" option over "sound"

should i TOFTT or just settle for an Anne PRO?

Do some stretches before the thread expires: http://barbre-ergonomics.com/files/Stretching_Poster_9-2015.pdf

>>62171050
>http://barbre-ergonomics.com/files/Stretching_Poster_9-2015.pdf
thanks for the advice senpai