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Unprecedented: OpenDNS/Cisco Umbrella censoring new DS domain.

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>GoDaddy kicks their hosting
>Google steals their domain
>Cloudflare arbitrarily boots them for a comment on their forum
>Tor Project denounces them in a blog post while staying silent about pedos/drugs/trafficking/etc
>OpenDNS/Cisco Umbrella is now blatantly censoring their new domain

Now 2% of the global DNS is unable to see their new site through pure censorship.

Is your DNS censoring what you see, /g/?

OpenDNS users on /g/ like to confirm?

This is the more censored site /g/ has ever seen. Why aren't we talking about it?
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Self loathing kikes like weev are our greatest allies
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For me it is the GTX Titan X
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>>62130874
Because people care more about looking like a good person rather than actually being one
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>>62130874
>Google steals their domain
How did this happen?
How can google steal someone else's domain?
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>>62130874
Neo nazis need to take a hint.
Nobody wants you near them. If you hate everyone, everyone will hate you back.
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Who cares a bunch of fascists are kicked from the interwebs.
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>>62130971
>I only care about free speech when I agree with it
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>>62130989
As it seems the majority, if not everyone don't want to listen to your free speech.
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>>62130989
>I don't understand free speech
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>>62130988
They'll shut down 4chan next
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lol cry more bitch
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>>62130874
TWO PERCENT
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES, A MINORITY OF USERS CAN'T SEE THE NAZIS
GOD FORBID A SUPREME '''WHITE''' '''MAN''' HAVE TO CHANGE HIS FUCKING DNS SERVER
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>>62131005
What's there to understand? Free speech is a pretty self-explanatory principle.
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>>62130971
This is only going to make them more pop and will push them towards mass adopting/creating decentralized technologies. No way to keep them down permanently.
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>>62130874
I am a bit worried, now that all of these entities have shown their willingness and ability to censor it will be much easier for governments to force them to do it in the future.
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>>62130971
>everyone will hate you back.

Corporations are everyone?
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>>62131003
>>62131005
worthless niggers detected
>>62131009
This. And all because you faggots would rather virtue signal than hear unpopular opinions. Nuclear holocaust fucking when
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>>62130989
free speech doesn't mean every company has to cooperate with you and give your fascists believes a platform.

They can still say anything they like and will not be detained for it. It's just that no one wants to host their website.
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>>62130971
They should take a hint and off themselves.
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>>62131053
Looks like it, count me into those corporations as well
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>>62131034
You don't see the implications? Your legal right to free speech doesn't apply to communications facilitated by private entities, but those entities own nearly all major forms of communication.
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>>62130988
>Who cares a bunch of fascists are kicked from the interwebs.

t. Jew or nu-male
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>>62131009
This would actually save lives.
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This has gone too far.
The time of the alt-tech is now!
https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/paxdickinson/alttech
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Good. Fuck those Nazis they should stay dead.
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People are entitled to their own opinions even unpopular ones. This is still blatant censorship even if you don't agree with their ideals.
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>>62131054
>Bitches about virtue signalling
>Does so himself
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>>62130907
fpbp
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>>62131037
This is war in the Internet age.

In war you must science your enemies propoganda. Just like shutting down their printing presses in the days of old you shut down their websites.
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>>62131055
That's all well and good but don't act like your some bastions of freedom and truth. You're just censorious kikes who are unironically helping your opposition by refusing to refute through actual arguments. Shalom
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>>62131009
That's terrible
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Time to boycott OpenDNS
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>>62131009
Fuck I want this to happen so bad
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When will this Nazi meme end?
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>>62131009
>>62131117
Good, I'll finally be able to get off the ride
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>>62130874
(((Auernheimer)))
Low IQ alt-cuckolds need to understand who's been pulling the strings all along
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>>62130874
Thanks to them I know what to avoid now.
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>>62131084
Nazis are scum, but letting racists have a platform for discussion is a small price to pay in the name of free speech.
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>>62131144
Why won't they use decentralized internet like zeronet or some shit
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>>62130988
this
>>62131009
>site that's basically 90% spam at this point gets shut down
truly heartbreaking
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>>62131084
I'd rather let literal Nazis talk on the internet than have companies choosing who can communicate.
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>>62130874
Isn't OpenDNS explicitly marketed to provide content filtering?
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>>62130971
Hello, i'm google, and we didn't liked what you said about GMail in 2010, also you misgendered someone in 2007, so we're declaring you a neo nazi.

Enjoy your internet ban.
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>>62131077
won't somebody think of the children
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>>62131181
You are either stupid or deliberately downplaying dailystormer
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>>62130989
Kill yourself you seditionist neo Nazi piece of shit. Traitors to the constitution and the rule of law are not entitled to the protection of either.
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>>62131009
Where will we go to from here next after shutdown?
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>>62131210
>everyone is a burger
Laughing at you.
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>>62131208
Dailystormer is hell, yes.
But all i see is the companies using it to get all the shit they want unhindered because "think of the nazi".
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>>62131037
>Free speech
Welcome to the free market you fascist piece of shit :^)
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>>62131009
>>62131054
4chan will probably not be shutdown, although I want it to be.

The global rule 1 prohibits racism. If the mods enforce the rules, 4chan is good
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OpenNIC is much better than OpenDNS anyway. OpenNIC doesn't censor any domains do they?
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>>62131214
Balkanization, lots of tiny imageboards will pop-up.
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>>62131222
Except there are a million different horrendous sites that are doing just fine.
DS is hell, and it shouldn't exist on an easily accessible internet.

This is NOT the hill you want to die on in regards to "free speech".
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>tfw hate everyone involved with this political bullshit
>all of the theatre, all of the actors
>weev, the jew who pretends to be a nazi
>all of the idiots who follow him
>all of the companies and idiots speaking out against muh fake nazis
>everyone
nuke us from orbit already
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>>62131086
No they aren't. Fucking neo Nazis pieces of shit need to be afraid for their lives of they dare admit their disgusting views in public. Punching Nazis is your Civic duty.
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>>62131210
>wants to censor free speech
>uses contrition as arguing point
wew laddie


>I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
now kys
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Yeah, when I was looking to change my DNS from standard/google, I already saw some people saying openDNS was kinda shitty. Specifically chose openNIC because of it.
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>>62131274
first, nuke yourself along with the wannabe nazis.
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>>62131257
>DS is hell, and it shouldn't exist on an easily accessible internet.
DS is nothing compared to many clearweb sites.
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If neo-nazism is going to be banned (which honestly is a good thing), animation/drawings of questionable media should be banned as well(Which it is).

I see nothing different here.
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>>62131274
iktf
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>>62131285
Fuck you, Nazi. I'm not dumb enough to fall into the fallacy of tolerance. Fascists need to be terrorized into silence for the good of society.
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>>62131274
>Weev is a jew
>Gab is ran by a jew
>Milo is a fag jew
>That guy from TRS is married to a jew
Why does this keep happening?
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>>62131313
t. fascist
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So now that OpenDNS has proven that they don't need a court order to remove a domain we can now hold them accountable for any domain they don't block.
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>>62131320
I feel sorry for you mentally ill alt cucks
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>>62131257
Most of those services lived on telling everyone that was impossible to block individual sites, it was the thing to be assumed.
Now they just pointed this is not the case, and they will be nagged, they will be forced, they will be pushed, and they will comply and internet will be gentrified.
This is the hill, and sadly i'm forced to defend DS.
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[FREEDOM OF SPEECH INTENSIFIES]
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It's odd the lengths they go in order to shut down one meme site
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>>62131334
Obviously they don't need one, it's just that they'll only block shit if they want or are forced to probably.
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>>62131359
Freedom of speech is overrated
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>>62131313
Nice try, Nazi.
Your false flagging is pretty bad.
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>>62131351
You aren't forced to do anything.
You want to defend DS.
Die on that hill, you won't be missed.
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>>62131359
Did reddit made this website?
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>>62131393
I hope you enjoy posting with your real name on the internet.
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>>62131393
>reddit spacing
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>>62131334
See attached, OpenDNS will obviously block the site with the content filter turned on. That is what it is marketed to do.
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>>62131278
>No they aren't. Fucking nigger pieces of shit need to be afraid for their lives of they dare admit their disgusting views in public. Punching Niggers is your Civic duty.

Literally the same.
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>Tor
>Not compromised

Pick one.

>Inb4 muh proof

Pic related assclowns. It's all the proof well chronicled in a neat little package.

>inb4 but not against muh Tor

Yes assholes, Tor itself has been effected and that's exactly what the CMU attack did and it worked. You shills thought a bunch of neon haired SJWs wouldn't fuck an already shady project back to the stone age?

Weev isn't a credible source as he doesn't even source himself and is just an attention whore fail trolling non hacker who is just as much an an illiterate charlatan who doesn't understand the TorProject any better than the technologically illiterate xir dykes that maintain Tor. This is beyond you idiots falling on your own swords. You've fallen on a bed of them by now.
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Daily Stormer was a meme until all these retarded corporations started taking them seriously. Good fucking job. They hardly had enough influence to cause the current political problems so I don't get what they hope to achieve here? Perhaps DS was just a test before the same thing happens to sites like 4chan.
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Daily reminder.
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>>62131443
>same thing happens to sites like 4chan.
Isn't that desirable?
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>>62131363
It is (((isn't it)))

The fact remains that these are private companies who can choose to ban/unban any service they wish for any reason. They are not a public utility (yet).

There are two things that can happen: these kind of sites will fade off into obscurity, or a new infrastructure will be built that is truly free of censorship.

The latter will require alot of time and capitol, so I don't see it happening realistically
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>>62130874
>>Tor Project denounces them in a blog post while staying silent about pedos/drugs/trafficking/etc
They have done the former, but not the latter.
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>>62130874
So... who are the cucks who still use OpenDNS as their DNS? kek

What this mess has taught us is that there are certain US companies that are the enemies of freedom:

Google
Cloudflare
CISCO/OpenDNS

Who else?
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MESHNETS WHEN????
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>>62130955

This is so true.
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All this drama is was everything Daily Stormer could ask.

>>62131456
>muh feels
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>>62131210
>>62131278
>I should be able to censor and physically assault people I disagree with
We lad
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>>62131508
Free software foundation
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>>62131508
/pol/
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>>62131456
This.

Nazi literally can't comprehend this.
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>>62131508
Nazi cucks just need to stop using the internet altogether.
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>>62131521
>>muh feels
exactly
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>>62131508
Mozilla, the dudes from Palemoon.
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>>62130967

Because google was their new registrar and google just took the domain for themselves. Stealing their domain in the literal sense of the word.
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>>62131537
>Alt right cucks fully trust jews because they're self hating kikes
lmao
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>>62131508
>enemies of freedom
Fascism equals freedom? wewest of lads.
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>>62131071
This is why all telecommunications should be nationalised, the government is actually held accountable to a degree as opposed to corporations which can just do whatever they want.
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>>62131559
Shitposting equals freedom.
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>>62131508
Google
Cloudflare
OpenDNS
Twitter
Facebook
Reddit
Apple
Microsoft
NVIDIA
etc
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>>62131566
Then /a/ must be anti freedom because they hate that
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>>62131564
>nationalised
...Are you a retard?
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>I am entitled to shit on other people's place
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They'll come after 4chan too mark my words.
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>>62131580
/a/ is a master race. They don't need freedom. /pol/ is subhumans, so they need freedom.
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>>62131508
4chan.
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>>62131596
>>62131465
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Why don't you guys crowdfund your own DNS, and make your own platforms?

Instead of winning, your top priorities are worshiping dead krauts, and LARPing with tiki torches.

Your leaders aren't even right-wing. Richard Spencer is not a nationalist, and is very pro-EU. Weev is jewish. James Kessler an Obama guy. How many of your "leaders" are feds?
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>>62131596
Come on, if they want finished with 4chan, they could buy it from Hiro.
Just pay 10 million and chickmoot will say this place.
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>>62131615
Alt right was a sham from the very beginning
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>>62131559
No, communism is freedom.
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>>62131125

The thing is, when you declare everyone you don't like a nazi, there is no point for them to virtue signal. When normies stop virtue signaling you will see the consequences of your actions. Millions of people publicly not giving a single fuck about you and not giving a fuck about what the consequences of their actions will be for you and others.
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>>62131615
You're talking about it as some coherent movement. The alt-right doesn't exist and will never exist.
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>>62131615
cripple/pol/ had confirmed Spencer was a Jew.
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>>62131647
Shutting down 4chan will save the internet
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>>62130874
Go away stormfags. Back to your filthy containment board. >>>/pol/
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>>62131524
>Free software foundation
fuck off
>>62131537
go back to sucking on that BBC
>>62131544
Mozilla is horrible. They are planning to censor with that """"fake news"""" shit... sponsored by Soros.
>>62131559
banning free speech is freedom!
what a cuck. kys
>>62131574
>Apple
>Microsoft
>NVIDIA
What have these done to curtail free speech of DS?
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>>62131660
(You)
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>>62131659
Yeah, it's gotten too cancerous for its own good
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>>62131582
Nationalise; the act of transferring from private to state control
Are you?
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>>62131659
Where I will get my frog images?
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>>62131636
Communism is just a fascist ideology with far-left economics
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>>62131615
Funny how they keep whining and shit and yet still use the services provided by what they called "sjw / librul" companies.
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>>62131674
>Mozilla is horrible. They are planning to censor with that """"fake news"""" shit... sponsored by Soros.
It's ironic how the people most of afraid of censoring fake-news are the ones who are most affected by them.
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>>62131688
reddit like you already do dumb frogposter
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>>62131674
Not against DS, the three companies have worked very hard to attain mass surveillance and vendor monopoly
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>>62131456
Nobody with an IQ over 50 thinks they have a legal right to free speech in a private forum. Free speech is as much a principle as it is a right. What they're concerned about is that people can be almost universally censored legally, which is why it's an important principle to uphold.
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>>62131555
Is that legal?
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>>62131686
>put the government in control of telecommunications infrastructure
Why are you bait so hard?
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>get kicked put of godaddy's for breaking the ToS by glorifying a domestic terrorism and inciting violence
>turns out that no one else wants to host your bullshit website
>m-muh censurship
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>>62131709

No, of course not. Who are going to stop them?
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>>62131693
Since communism appeared first (Bolshevism anyway) wouldn't it be better to describe fascism as communism with corporatist economics?
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>>62131702
But Reddit think traps are gay
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>>62130988
>First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Socialist.

>Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

>Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a Jew.

>Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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>>62131693
Nazis back to pol
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>>62131674
Good goyim, support the (((free software foundation))) made by (((Richard Stallman)))
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>>62131722
The rightful domain owners?
It shouldn't be hard to find a litigator that would charge for their services after the settlement, if they really have a case
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>>62131701
>fake-news
Define fake news? Fake news is nothing more than news and facts that the libtards don't like.

>>62131707
Ah, ok. Well, these other ones have shown their true colors when it comes to censorship. That's far worse than monopoly.
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>>62131674
Sad!
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>>62131709
Yes, you are renting the domain name from them and most DNS ToS explicitly state that the registrar holds the right to hold on to the domain if you break the ToS.

It's just retards who didn't read the ToS and now are crying censorship
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>>62131749
Fake-news are news which are deliberately false.
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>>62131731
>First they came for the shitposters, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a shitposter.

>Then they came for the frogposters, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a frogposterst.

>Then they came for the loliposters, and I did not speak out—
>Because I was not a loliposters.

>Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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>>62131749
Hoaxes and lies are fake news too
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>>62131749
>Ah, ok. Well, these other ones have shown their true colors when it comes to censorship. That's far worse than monopoly.
Do you think it's only Google who would censor your views? Are you really that gullible.

Google was really an interchangeable entity. MS, Apple etc would do that in a heartbeat
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>>62131731
First they came for the Nazis, and I did not speak out because seriously, fuck Nazis.
Whoever they come for next, I'll speak out for.
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>>62131744
>Good goyim, support the (((free software foundation))) made by (((Richard Stallman)))
Retard, FSF is not curtailing your free speech. Once all these companies that make proprietary software ban the freedom of expression, GNU software will be the only option.

Even Weev supports FSF and Stallman. You can hate on (((them))) all you want but FSF and GNU software are not your enemies.
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>people don't want my toxic beliefs plastered all over their platform bwahhh
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Yes, OpenDNS censors the results. They outright say that. Nobody's making you use them.

Your outrage is fake news. GTFO our board you frogposting morons.
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>>62131313
>Fascists need to be terrorized into silence for the good of society.

t. liberal arts major
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>>62131653
For real?
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>>62131744
FSF has given us the ONLY options we have to fight against fascist corporations.
Fuck off nigger cuck
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>>62131726
Not really, fascism is just nationalist authoritarianism regardless of economics whereas communism is (usually) nationalist authoritarianism with inherent leftist economics. Doesn't really matter which ideology spawned first when fascism can be applied to any economic doctrine and communism cannot.
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>>62131756
>It's just retards who didn't read the ToS and now are crying censorship
Just because your ToS say "we can censor what we want" doesn't mean it's not censorship.
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Mozilla got a grant from Soros... to eliminate your freedoms /g/.
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>>62131756
If that's the case then why won't literally any registrar suddenly block important and expensive domains and say "lol we were just renting the domain to you, now you have to pay $999999999 per year or the domain belongs to us" ?
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>>62131783
>for real
I just read only some post. But looks was true.
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>>62131744
>>62131524
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>>62131777
>>62131786
Very good, support internet communism. Remember that (((richard stallman))) is a bernie sanders supporting cuck.
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>>62131544
>the dudes from Palemoon
it's just one, and he is a furfag
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>>62131760
That's just a tiny, tiny portion of news. They're using this as the reason to ban ALL the news they don't like.
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Start self hosting or use OpenNIC+DNSCrypt you fuckwads.

IDK why people keep recommending OpenDNS, especially given how it's hosted by Cisco, and because shit like this was just waiting to happen.
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>>62131814
You are not even making sense anymore.
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>>62131817
I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised.
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>>62131799
It is why we use the terminal, GUIfag.
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>>62131813
>Oy vey goyim, are you using propriety software? This is another holocaust.
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>>62131210
Youre the ones always saying the Constitution is no longer applicable becaude it's too old. I don't want to hear any liberal even bring the Constitution up.

It's like listening to liberal retards comparing themselves to the young men who raised the American flag on fucking IWO JIMA because WE BOTH FOUGHT NAZIS. Meanwhile they go out and burn the American flag and then trash talk and assault military servicemen
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>>62131768
>Do you think it's only Google who would censor your views? Are you really that gullible.
I didn't say that, retard.

>Google was really an interchangeable entity. MS, Apple etc would do that in a heartbeat
But they haven't. Google has! Stay mad, jewgle shill.
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>>62131834
>Oy vey goyim, are you using botnet free software? This is another holocaust.
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>>62131799
>https://wiki.mozilla.org/Main_Page/Proposals_for_WMM
>Grant Research for Web Made Movies, March-April 2010, Mozilla Foundation

>>62131819
They are not going to ban anything.
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>>62131071
So? Nobody ever said you have a right to a major source of communication.
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>>62131838
t. Posting from my android phone
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>>62130874
>GoDaddy
>2017 and still buying domains there
you deserve it, after years of corrupt shitlords that scammed their costumers and people still buy them fucking domains, you are pathetic humanoids.
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>>62131838
>But they haven't.
Wonderful, I'll be waiting when your fragile glass tower breaks down
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>>62131777
>Even Weev supports FSF and Stallman

He supports free software but never Stallman
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>>62131793
>oh no a privately owned company isn't obligated to provide service to everyone and has the legal right to refuse service to anyone they see fit, this is clearly a case of censorship

I thought you guys were libertarians or some shit
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>>62131842
Stallman unironically supports democratic socialism and previously supported the green party
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>>62131144
They have one. Their basements.
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>>62131236
>Free speech = free market
>Just because you admit someone with unsavory views has free speech despite you not agreeing with them, they are immediately grouped in said unsavory group

W E W L A D
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This is so fucked.
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>>62131834
>>62131842
>implying Stallman isn't a new jew come from heaven to save us
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>>62131801
Because that's bad business and no one would register with them if their ToS stated they couldnpull bullshit like that
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>>62131801
that's what gomomi did in the old days
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>>62131876
You are quickly diverting the topic from the publicly auditable, forkable software to Stallman. You have a malicious intent. YOU are one of (((them)))
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>>62131867
Yeah, it's censorship. I'm not saying it's not allowed or something, but it's definitely shitty. Mostly because they're singling out a specific way of thinking instead of just horrible shit in general.
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>>62130874
Deleted opendns account
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>>62131653
lmao alt-right played themselves.
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>>62131903
>Marxism is good
(((You)))
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>>62131919
You just did that again. Are you actually shilling closed sourced, company controlled slaveware? We all know how this turned out to be
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https://dailystormer.al/daily-stormer-now-dawns-the-algerian-age/
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>>62131849
Next will be christians after muslims all over the world complains
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>>62131710
because of retards like >>62131003
if free speech is only guaranteed when it's something owned by the government then the internet has to be owned by the government because without it we literally have less freedoms
of course if you people would stop spouting the nonsense about how private corps can do whatever they want then we might talk about how to fix this without nationalizing it
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>>62131814
>Very good, support internet communism. Remember that (((richard stallman))) is a bernie sanders supporting cuck.
Who cares who he supports?

http://weev.livejournal.com/409835.html

>>62131866
>He supports free software but never Stallman
You're an idiot.

>I speak of Richard Stallman, progenitor of the free software movement and creator of GNU (as in GNU/Linux, the most widely deployed operating system in the world, and GNU bash, the tool that has caused so much shellshock lately). He's a hero to me, and anyone that honestly evaluates the landscape of computing's history would conclude that there's few whose contributions may equal his in importance. I place only Ken, Ritchie, and Turing by his side. It is shameful that anyone need to write an essay telling people to stop bashing this man who has worked for free to provide us with some of the greatest software ever written, but I see a number of people who I normally respect defaming the man. Beyond that, irresponsible publications such as the Guardian take the chance to talk shit on Stallman and spew some anti-free software garbage. Over the past few years hating Stallman has become somewhat trendy among the Silicon Valley crowd, and every HN thread involving Stallman spews childish insults about him.

http://weev.livejournal.com/409835.html
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>>62131456
See >>62131708

Freedom of speech is one of the many axioms necessary to have a truly democratic, open and intellectual society. The other ones are listed in the Bill of Rights. These principles of gov't are also principles of society. It's the same reason the gov't forces private corporations to abide by anti-discrimination laws: the principles of a successful gov't ought to be reflected in society
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>>62131915
Everyone know was the jews beyond the alt-right and the nazis.
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>>62131456
>>62131536

There is a whole fucking spectrum once dns ddos protection and registrars make editorial decisions they aren't neutral anymore and will be compelled in the future. (though the CEO of cloudflare has played a fucken awesome play, "I woke up in a bad mood and decided to kick them off")

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170825/01300738081/nazis-internet-policing-content-free-speech.shtml

> A second complicating factor is that there are different levels of services and their decisions can have very different impacts. So, for example, if some blog doesn't allow you to comment, that's not a big deal on the free speech front since there are millions of other places you can comment online. But if no one will even provide you any access to the internet, then there are some larger questions there about your right to access the entire network that everyone uses to speak. And there's a spectrum between those two end points. There are only a few ISPs, so if Comcast and Verizon decide you can't be online, you may not be online at all. There are multiple places where you can register domains, but if all the registrars blacklist certain providers, then you can effectively be banned from the open internet entirely.
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>>62131940
>Marxist can't tell the difference between (((free software))) and open source
Pathetic
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>>62131943
maah free spech that no one wants to listen to
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>>62131801
That's literally what they do you imbecile. If you break their ToS or if you don't pay they take the domain back and replace it with an ad to buy the domain.
>then they will ask for 99999 $ XDDD
They can, just like your local bar can charge a million dollars per beer. Nobody is going to pay that much and they would go bankrupt so they don't.
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>>62131041
So Nazis are going to be responsible for blockchain innovation in the years to come? First they put us on the moon, next we're getting next generation distributed technologies. What CAN'T the Nazis develop for America?
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>>62130874
Even if you hate the Daily Stormer as I do, this is just validating their claims of everyone being against them, driving them further underground, and making them boil. This doesn't do anyone any good.

https://youtu.be/tTSC354qhp4

Neo-nazi's are the convenient victim of today because it's popular to hate them, but any attempts to censor anyone is always a power-grab. And there will be more.
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>>62131906
Yeah, it's shitty but that's how the free market works.

You are free to start your own DNS and refuse service to anyone who doesn't share your political views too
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>>62131456
>censorship is the same as showing you the door
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>>62131951
Everybody who doesn't support antifa are nazis and should be kicked of the internet forever
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>>62130988
We're next on the list.
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>>62131941
Only the HTML loads.
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>>62131969
Thanks for the useless information, I already knew this.
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>>62131958
Yes, YOU are the owner of a free software. (((They))) are the owner of the so called open source software.
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>>62131313
Communism is Fascism—successful Fascism, if you will. What we have called Fascism is, rather, the form of tyranny that can be overthrown—that has, largely, failed. I repeat: not only is Fascism (and overt military rule) the probable destiny of all Communist societies—especially when their populations are moved to revolt—but Communism is in itself a variant, the most successful variant, of Fascism. Fascism with a human face... Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader's Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or [t]he New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?
-Susan Sontag
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Isn't /pol/ much worse than this site they're trying to censore?
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>>62131982
Good, glad this site is kill
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>>62131965
if noone would want to listen to it they wouldn't be able to keep their site running so shut up you retard they clearly have people who want to listen
and consider this why do you have to do your damnest to censor something noone wants to listen to?
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>>62131982
Good
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>>62131951
>Everyone know
Except the alt-rights and neo nazis apparently.
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>>62131813
We now know who's the AMDfag who posts "Intel are joooooos" 24/7. weev really doesn't have a life.
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>>62131877
>everyone has free speech
>some people have more free speech than others

Thanks, Animal Farm.
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>>62131986
Another jewish marxist lie
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>>62131992
>if noone would want to listen to it they wouldn't be able to keep their site running
The site is not running
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>>62131985
Then why the fuck are you bitching about
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>>62131982
>While it may have started out as a normal forum
Haha haha. Fucking retards.

>>62131990
It's shitposting central but it's very politically diverse.
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>>62131968
Ah a man of high culture I see?
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>>62132001
>Intel
>Not jews
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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>>62131615
> sorry your crowdfunding campain has been banned for <insert arbitary reason>
Why don't you make your own crowdfunding site
> Sorry credit card processing has been withdrawn for other reason
Why don't you make your own money?
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>>62132010
>>62131793
>Just because your ToS say "we can censor what we want" doesn't mean it's not censorship.
It's pretty simple English mate, though I can see why you'd have trouble with it.
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>>62131941
they keep asking for shekels on every page.
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>>62132003
Some have facilitated speech because they're, you know, not Nazis and didn't ostracize those with the means.
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>>62132001
OY VEY
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>>62131969
and what if the communistic dns:es refuse to answer domain queries from your dns ?
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>>62132024
lel what a fucking kike
blames his own to make more shekels
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>>62132016
And confirmed.
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>>62131980
So, everyone is under jewish control.

>>62131999
They know, but they are bunch of cucks.
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>>62130874
>not using adguard dns
plebs
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>>62132008
because they don't have an audience or because everyone tries their best to shut them down?
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>>62131990
Yes.
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Its simple: every user of every company that has dealing with the us gov in any form needs to be protected by the 1st amendement. Problem solved
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>>62132024
>oh goyim, we need money for keep the je-white fight
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>>62132054
Why should they be mutually exclusive?
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>>62130874
Oh those poor nazis. Cry me a river.
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>>62131700
because there are literally no alternatives
and if they were to make an own one it would for fucking certain be fucked by the same idiots who try to get rid of them right now
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>>62131968
(((victim)))
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>>62132001
Newfag, intel being a bunch of kikes is old as fuck news
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>>62132001
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>>62132077
How does it feel to have no principles?
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>>62131760
It should not be the duty of companies like Mozilla to police fucking news.
"Fake-news" has always been around.

If you believe something without any evidence or without verifying its source you're just a gullible moron.
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>>62132076
because it is a fact that they haven't had problems running before corps started to shut it down
it is mutually exclusive because there is no reason to shut something down that can't afford to run because noone reads it
just like you don't disperse a gathering if only a single person arives
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>>62132067
You have dealings with the US government. So I'm going to key my speech into your car.
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>>62132035
Well, that wouldn't be a problem if the God Emperor himself didn't reppeal Net Neutrality allowing companies to do that :^)
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>>62131990
/pol/ is ethnic 3rd worlders and beaner Americans roleplaying as Nazi's whilst also simultaneously expressing libertarian and anarchist views. They're generally anti-war. They don't really have a bias towards any of the traditional political power structures, and you'll see them shift between left and right depending on which threads you visit. In short, the board is pure chaos, and anyone's stereotypical view of it is generally inaccurate as it varies widely depending on which thread you go to, and what's happening in the world currently.
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>>62132106
>to police fucking news
And they don't. And are not going to. See >>62131845
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>>62131949
He clearly supports Stallman's accomplishments more than the person and his politics. That's pretty much in line with supporting free software and not Stallman the man.
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>>62132115
Are you intentionally retarded? I really hope so
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>>62132110
I don't think you understand. For a company, all it really needs is just a flip of a switch, there is no such thing as "trying best" to close a miserable website. Easy PR score.
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>>62132079
White power my ass.
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>>62132135
>back-pedalling
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>>62132138
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
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>>62131990
Yes, the /pol/ is the gates for the poo-in-the-loo
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>>62132144
why don't they manage to get rid of them then?
they are trying their best because there is no one single switch to get rid of them
>>62132152
Black power my ass.
and? what was the point of your post you retard
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>>62132144
Pretty much this. Does anyone actually believe a closed-sourced, proprietary piece of shit like Discord actually cares about politics? They shut off the alt-right channel for purely virtue signaling reasons. Free PR. Meanwhile they mine all the new lector's swarming in and sell off their data to ad companies.

Abandoning Google and these other shitty corporation's isn't a political issue at all.
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>>62132042
>buy intel or you are an anti-semite
really makes you think
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>>62132175
And the /g/ was right again.
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>>62132131
>>62131845 looks like damage control.
The original article is still there.
https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2017/08/the-mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-a-movement-to-fight-misinformation-online/
>This is why we’re launching MITI. We’re investing in people, programs, and projects that disrupt misinformation online.
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>>62132173
>no one single switch to get rid of them
Are you being retarded or what? Merely one closedown gave them good enough PR boost, from both inside the US and outside.
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>>62132168
potato is potato
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>>62132173
And what does black has anything to do with my post? I'm not even black lmao.
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>>62132175
In all honesty, though, I am glad Goolag decided to piss off the right. /g/ has been saying how shit they are for years. The recent events are waking up people to how bad of an idea it is to rely on these companies, even if they're being a bit obnoxious about it. I think the recent events are quite honestly the beginning of the end for Google. It will take some time, though.
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>using centralised services, ever
>being outraged when censorship happens
Yes, this is horrible and they shouldn't have done it. No, we can't stop them and this was completely expected. If things like these come as a surprise to you then you are a retard.

>>>/OpenNIC/
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>>62132025
But free speech was intended for those vies that were unsavory for the majority of the public, like Nazism and Communism, because why else would you need free speech? You don't need to invoke your 1st Amendment rights to things people would find pleasant or something that affects indifference on them.
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>>62132206
and? that doesn't mean that they shut them down
i am not saying that they are trying to get pr i am saying that they are trying to shut them down are you illiterate?
>>62132209
And what does white has anything to do with my post? I'm not even white lmao.
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>>62132196
It's not. Both articles are saying the same things. None of that means that they are going to label sites as containing misinformation, or will block those sites. That is only what you read into it because muh evil SJWs.
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>>62132240
*views
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>>62132240
See
>>62131456
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>>62132245
>i am saying that they are trying to shut them down
Are they? All they are doing is closing down a website, score an easy PR boost and sit back and watch the drama
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>>62132263
See >>62131950
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>>62132245
I'm talking about the neo nazis, why you so butthurt about my post?
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>>62132275
That doesn't disapprove anything claimed in the picture.
Not him though
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>>62132269
that's literally what's happening though the reason is irrelevant, they can shut it down to get 70 virgins for all it matters.
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>>62132135
>He clearly supports Stallman's accomplishments more than the person and his politics. That's pretty much in line with supporting free software and not Stallman the man.
He calls him a hero. Fucking deal with it. I don't like Stallman's political views either (I'm NatSoc) but FSF and GPL software is the only software that we should be using now. Everything else is a fucking botnet and a golden cage... in which we're just waiting for slaughter. Google has proven that clearly.
Don't bash Stallman. Don't bash FSF and GPL. They're the only things we'll have left once the corpofascists ban everything that's against (((their))) agenda.

Google is our biggest enemy. Always was, always will be. They control the Internet and they are now policing it for PC and SJW purposes. We need to KILL GOOGLE.

Install AdNauseam: https://adnauseam.io/

Run this JS every hour: https://jsfiddle.net/codefag/3t9r045q/

FIGHT BACK!
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>>62132280
Maybe because he's one of them? lmao
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>>62132294
Don't snib the snab please
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>>62130971
This. Major international corporations should decide what people can and can't see. I'm sure that's not a bad precedence to set.

>"X service really sucks."
>This post has been deleted by X service
>"You should use Y service"
>This post has been deleted by X service
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>>62132280
because you replied to me you retard.
it might be hard to understand but you reply to someone if what you are saying refers to them.
>>62132300
fuck off
though i guess at this point everyone not agreeing with censure is a neo nazi
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Why are leftists so afraid of what "Nazis" will say in public that they try to shut them down at every opportunity?

Question to leftists: if Donald Trump invited "Nazis" to speak on the White House lawn for an hour without being assaulted by Antifa, and under military guard in front of dozens of live cameras broadcasting on every news channel, would you let them?
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>>62131049
Not only that, but to work in collusion to do so.
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>>62132289
Then by the principle of non-discrimination, you shouldn't be arrested for being gay/black/whatever. But anyone who isn't part of the government should be able to kick you out, censor you, etc.
Yet we have anti-discrimination laws for businesses.

I think the main argument here is that similar things should apply to free speech. If private entities can legally stop you from saying anything, "hurr durr they aren't the government and you aren't being arrested" shouldn't be an argument. If a tranny or nigger can force a business to provide them with service, the same should apply to a neo-nazi.
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Nazis want to skin you alive if you don't have blue eyes
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>>62132328
Dude you really need to chill for a minute, drink some water unless you are going to have a stroke
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>>62131564
>the government is actually held accountable to a degree
Holy fuck. Everyone point at this retard and laugh! Then cry because people actually believe this.
>In the United States, the federal government has sovereign immunity and may not be sued unless it has waived its immunity or consented to suit.[2] The United States as a sovereign is immune from suit unless it unequivocally consents to being sued.[3] The United States Supreme Court in Price v. United States observed: "It is an axiom of our jurisprudence. The government is not liable to suit unless it consents thereto, and its liability in suit cannot be extended beyond the plain language of the statute authorizing it."[4]

>The principle was not mentioned in the original United States Constitution. The courts have recognized it both as a principle that was inherited from English common law, and as a practical, logical inference (that the government cannot be compelled by the courts because it is the power of the government that creates the courts in the first place).[5]
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>>62132331
no lefties are here. only people baiting for (you)s
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>>62132336
This
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>mfw people tell me kikes don't run the world
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>>62132289
Free speech is as much a principle as a right, just like the right not to be discriminated against by a private company and the gov't (the former of which by mandate of the law). Unless someone actively breaks the TOS of the site, (which hopefully is respectful of the fact that people have free speech in principle), then they shouldn't be banned, have a venue cancelled and so on. You can still boycott that person because that's your right to protest in action.
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>>62132346
I'm a leftie. Just not an extremist like Antifa.
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>>62132275
Notice anti-discrimination laws are literally anti-Nazi. That's the point.
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>>62132364
here your (you)
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>>62130955
wew that really hits home
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>>62132328
It shouldn't bother you if you aren't white or neo nazi. I replied to you but I'm not talking about (You). Get it?
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>>62132353
Again, the company (if under free, capitalist market) is not liable to preserve your constitutional right. If their ToS is legally approved, you are to abide by them, and they hold full rights to decline your service.
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>>62132346
you do know that you're just part of a vocal and retarded minority, right?
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>>62132336
This 2bh
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>>62132395
and what would that be in your opinion?
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>>62132395
>anyone who disagrees with me is a leftie
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>>62132340
don't worry i am completely relaxed, though i find this thread incredibly amusing tbqh
>>62132389
that doesn't make sense
that's like you walking up to a random person pointing at them and saying TERRORIST
but this leads me back to my original question, what was the point of your post? i don't get it
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oh, those poor neonazis! you know the saying, "first they came for the klansmen"
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>>62132367
No they're not. You can't discriminate against someone for their political beliefs, sex, sexual preference, religious beliefs or race as long as they're respecting everyone else's rights and privliges. Unless you want to discriminate against someone for their political beliefs and thus leave room for people to discriminate against someone for all of the above reasons, including some conservative saying they hate a garden variety liberal and not hiring them on that basis and him being perfectly justified. Be careful for what you wish for.
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>>62132294
t. slave for google captcha
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>>62132425
I'm saying this in relation to hiring someone to a private company btw. Just making that clear to show you why that's stupid.
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>>62132424
first they came for the those that everyone hates
then they came for those that are primarily disliked
then they came for those that disagree with the majority
and then they came for you
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>>62132446
no rule that says i have to speak up for the actual murderers
believe me, when they come for people i have no problem with, i'll be on the streets throwing bricks with the rest
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>>62132424
The problem isn't nazis and it never was. Neonazis are a very fringe group with little real backing or membership. The problem is the left using neonazis as a straw man to describe anyone who disagrees with them.
So yes, this is really a solid case of "first the came from", but when they come for you, they'll be calling you a nazi too.
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>>62132411
everybody i hate is like hitler
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>>62132446
first they came for the ones that everyone hates
then the world was a better place
fin :)
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>>62132422
I was mocking them for their white power bullshit, if they believe they're so powerful, it shouldn't be that hard to create their own platform instead of using existing services that will censor them.
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>>62132469
sure you will kek
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>>62130874
>Internet is not a utility goy, Nazi get no protections
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>>62132482
everybody i hate is like stallin
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>>62132489
>Communists and Pedophiles and Daech are protected
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>>62132489
Come on anon, if the keep that speed, soon or late they will start ban 2d lolicon too.
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>>62132484
everyone hated the jews i seem to remember, they historically were one of the most hated groups of people, though i don't think i have to remind you of what happened when they were killed off
>>62132485
reasonable enough but why not just generally post?
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>>62131210
Go back to /r/eddit, kid
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>the internet should be regulated like a utility! I should not be denied an internet connection because I'm a citizen!
>lol nazis they should be denied everything, even the right to live lolololol lets take everything they have because they called muslims violent
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>>62132518
Just say go back to >>>/pol/.
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Antifa are like Hitler
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>>62132331
They are afraid of us because we are the only ones who want to stop the mass immigration of shitskins who vote 99% democrat We are the only true opposition to their brown manifest destiny ideology. This is also the reason they hate trump so much, if he builds a wall it will slow down the demographic shift.
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>>62132509
Because you said there are no alternatives for them and how they will get fucked if they were to make one which shouldn't happen if they really are as powerful like they seem to believe.
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>Nazis shitting on TOR, their last refuge for hosting because they won't suck their cocks and say how great they are

kek, this is why everybody else legitimately hates you. not just the imagined leftist boogieman
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>>62132509
The left will help Muslims to erase Jews from this Planet
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>>62132555
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>>62132613
>implying the jews aren't the ones orchastrating this thing
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>>62132586
>>
>visited that domain in the OP for the first time
>already heard a lot about it all and sometimes browse pol for giggles
>can not stop laughing about the site behind the domain.
Holy fucking shit guys the humour is fantastic. It is like the court jester of old times, showing the world how stupid and fucked up it is. I do take it seriously but also I do not.
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>>62132689
don't forgot to donate some shekels to them.
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>>62132659
They've voiced their concerns and reasons for not blocking drug dealers, pedophiles and terrorists already.
The short of it is that those will just use other services and find other ways. Silencing them will not help. But it will undermine the anonymity which will also go against people who need it and Tor was made for.
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>>62132709
Nah sorry, nobody gets my money. I do not take it that seriously. Besides this, the court jester got his payment from the king, the king he made fun about. Got it?
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>>62132659
Tor has denounced the pedos and drug dealers many times already, stop playing the victim and pretending they are singling you out
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>>62131524
>>62131674
>>62131813
>>62130874
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression
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>>62132736
and why does the same not go for nazispeech?
also
>anonymity on tor, the thing that is completely infested with nsa nodes
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>>62132743
EFF is dead to me.
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>>62132740
you're not a good goy.
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>>62132772
Did you even read the article
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>>62132165
heh. so fucking sad how true it is.
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>>62132809
>>62132742
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This thread is bad. You should all feel bad. Get the fuck out of /g/ if you're going to engage in this faggotry.
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>>62132782
Sorry, I have now. It seems they're against censorship.
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>>62132769
They haven't denied them access or installed a backdoor specifically for them, fuck off
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So does this mean that, if i wanted to, I can ban all black people and women from using my service, once I find out they're black or a woman?
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>>62132742
>Tor has denounced the pedos and drug dealers many times already, stop playing the victim and pretending they are singling you out
>>62132736
>They've voiced their concerns and reasons for not blocking drug dealers, pedophiles and terrorists already.
Hello Shlomo. How much are you getting paid to defend that Tor honeypot???
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>>62132875
no cause they are protected classes
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>>62131710
Because the government is at least partially accountable to the people. You would rather corporations just continue to be allowed to piss all over you without any sort of consequence?

Fucking brainwashed retard.
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>>62132344
>government does something you dont like
>dont vote for them
>get new government
oh wait amerifats dont even have a functioning democracy
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>62132899
Then shouldn't people's opinions be protected just as well as their race?

Either it's all okay, or none of it's okay. Anything else is a blatant display of bias, and constitutionally unacceptable.
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>>62132895
I don't even use Tor precisely because it's full of nothing but pedos, tinfoils and Matriz LARPers
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WELCOME TO THE END OF THE INTERNET
Good thing you've seen all of the OC there will ever be. In the very near future, the Internet ID will be a reality. You will have to renew it regularly, with correct information. All websites will conform to the new standard. You will never have the pseudo anonymity a handle will grant you. Full names only from here out. It will be lauded as one of the greatest advances towards true democracy in society.
Fuck it. I don't even care anymore.
Cheers to nukes on the horizons and an end to it all.
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>>62132956
You should stop using the Internet as well... for precisely the same reasons.
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>>62132950
don't tell that to me tell it to the ones writing the legislature
i certainly agree with you
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>>62132958
This is the obvious end point. When you think of the way that it is structured all power was bound to end up in very few hands. I wonder if people on BBSs and Usenet were worried about this or just went along with it for all the pretty colours and shiny things.
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>>62132917
>Because the government is at least partially accountable to the people.
>>62132344
>>62132941
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>>62132941
Vote doesn't really matter. You honestly think Trump getting the chair wasn't a rig? Hillary never stood a chance. She knows how to play ball, but she's also a known backstabber with a grudge.
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>>62133050
Sorry, my point was that we haven't had an actual, meaningful change in gov't in a long while. I think that in the last 70(?) years I'd say two, JFK and Reagan.
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>alt-right retards vote for a capitalist pig
>alt-right retards support his stupid decisions regarding the market because "muh free market"
>alt-right retards support private property and the right of companies to do whatever the fuck they want
>as soon as said private companies use their rights to fuck with them, the alt-right retards start bitching about "freeze peach" and how companies shouldn't have the right to ban them
>some alt-right retards even want telecommunication companies to become State-owned (or at least heavily controlled)
>alt-right retards don't realize that now they're one step closer to the communism they claim to despise
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>>62133113
Hur dur communists breath air so now I have to breath water
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>>62133113
POTTERY
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>>62133002
As a kid in the '80's interested in computers, the few things I knew were they were wildly expensive and complex. They were, at the time, financially and intellectually prohibitive. As the price dropped, the complexity dropped, so too did the bar of entry. Around this time, the internet as we know it was starting to take shape. I blame AOL and Compuserve for fucking it all up by bringing it to all the fucktarded masses.
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>>62133161
I've seen this before but it's never given real context. Please explain to joke for me.
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>>62133205
https://youtu.be/bxU2eqZtYmc
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>>62133205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0
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>>62130874
My ISP doesn't censor
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>>62133243
Not >>62133205, and I get the poetry thing but I thought it had something to do with systemd Poettering. I may have to lay off of /g/ for a while.
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>>62133113
>Adolf Hitler hated capitalism
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>>62133254
Lucas is a dipshit, that sounds more like a visual callback. Probably a name for it but it damn sure isn't "poetry".
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>>62133243
>>62133254
So pottery is a reference to the cycle of history because a shitty worldbuilder called his repetitive dumpster fire of a franchise poetry?

Alright I'll buy that. Pottery the current sociopolitical climate is then.
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>>62133299
I've seen "Poettery" posted for stuff specifically relating to systemd
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>>62133170
I meant more in terms of the sheer mechanics of it. BBS was done using a modem and a phone line, that's it. Anyone could set one up, anyone could access it. Fidonet took messages and documents all over the world with very little company control, since it was ran by a committee (headed by an anti-corporate/government anarchist like T.J).

My point is that, in requiring so much corporate overhead, and corporate say-so, the internet is inherently going to accrue power in these people's hands.
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>>62132958
Even now, when the centralised internet is still rather usable, people are developing decentralised mesh networks and similar stuff. It's nowhere near widespread yet, but hopefully as things progress and the urgency becomes apparent adoption will increase.

Provided that goes to plan, in the future you'll have Facebook 2.0 (not necessarily related to today's facebook, but with a similar lack of privacy, real-world ID required, and wrongthink probably strictly banned) as the normie internet, and some sort of anonymised mesh network used by anyone at least mildly concerned about privacy.
At least until the new world order rolls in proper, and even that becomes impossible.
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>>62133308
He also claimed to hate communism.
>Nazi
>Nationalsozialismus
>National Socialism
>Socialism
One step away from Communism which is one step from Fascism.
I forget who said it, but it was said that political ideology is not linear. It's circular. A civilization usually starts at the top at facism(king/tribal leader/etc) then gradually moves around to hit bottom around classical liberal and then moves around to socialist, then communist, then back to fascism, at which point revolution happens and the circle is repeated.
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>>62133411
You are indeed correct. I miss the few years I ever got to mess with dial-up. With some know-how, you were a free man on the wires.
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>>62133493
The issue is size of data. Text is tiny, so 10MB (A geocities account) Would fit hundreds of times on a few GB I put aside on my computer to act as a mirror and also a seedbox that syncs up daily.

The big problem is that people want large file formats to be well backed up as well, like video.

We need to start thinking about getting things "off" the net, in terms of where they are stored in the long term, because it's clear we can't trust any part of the infrastructure in the long term.
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>>62133493
I did the piratebox thing back when there were threads here just waiting for the day that the meshnet code would pan out. Years later and a bricked tp-mr3040 (lol), routers are now being gimped at the chip level because of that shit fcc ruling that in turn gimped openwrt broeadcasting options. You don't think they won't push to gimp them further if it starts catching on?
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>>62133499
I think the problem here is that generalised labels are used to lump different ideologies together. "Socialism" for instance can mean a youth program for the purpose of maintaining national spirit and propaganda (really the bulk of Hitler's program, along with some other relatively minor social/environmental programs), or it can mean up to 70% income tax with vast subsidies and social programs (like Sweden today), or it can even be used to mean full abolishment of private property (i.e. communism).

The ideologies behind these are also quite different (Hitler was trying to put together the pieces of German economy and morale, Lenin/Stalin wanted to control the nigger cattle, Sweden wants fuck knows what).
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>>62133529
I just feel that this is the lesson we should learn from the entirety of the last week or so. That all the while large, heavy, rich, and usually unreachable, organisations control the various and complex cogs of the internet, there'll always be a risk for them to abuse their power, with the true abuses not yet known, but when they are known to us it will be too late.
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>>62133645
The lesson has already been known to those that care. This particular event really isn't much different than so many others in the past, but it's emotionally charged. Truly a "think of the children" event. Hate against nazism, founded or not, has been so ingrained in the world that you can push legislation and probably even murder if the action was against it. Think about that, hate towards an idea, probably not a wholly accurate picture in their minds, but still a hate of an idea. This is not going to get better. How many times has someone or some idea been compared to Hitler or Nazism? Well, guess what folks, there's precedent now. Maybe not legal precedent, but certainly social precedent.
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Freedom of Speech protects you from Government actions, not from private businesses. You can't go into an establishment with a megaphone spouting nonsense and cry Freedom of Speech when you get kicked out.You have exactly ZERO rights to the services of any given business. If you walk into a business wearing nazi gear and waving nazi flags the business is entirely within it's rights to deny you services.

None of you niggas cried when the NFL black balled kaepernick for his blm bullshit.
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