In Japan right now, let's discuss Japanese railway technology.

gaijin living in japan here

op pls go and stop taking photos in public

>>62125651
they have these is austiralia I reall hate these things.
there sould be signs saying hold on to your ticket.
btw good luck with you have two small toddlers using those damn machines.

>>62125675
Hentai isn't anime...

>>62125703
Its a ticket scanner for going on trains and boats and the like. it lets you get in.

>>62125651
>In Japan right now
The age of consent in Japan is 13
Take that as you will

>>62125723

Ah fuck, I just realised that the blue thing was a cover that folded down

Aware now

>>62125733
No it's not.

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A cleaner photo for you guys.

And fun fact, no matter how you put the ticket in, like face up or down, forward facing or backward facing, the ticket come out in one direction. A lot of mechanism is used for this minor but lovely stuff.

>not using suica

>>62125733
By the same token, there is no age of consent in America.

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>>62125856
nice photo anon! hope you enjoy japan while you're there

Do all Japanese people react the way Kanna did after using the ticket scanner?

>>62125929
ICOCA is better as I'm in Osaka, and no, we usually use ticket for taking Shinkansen, since we don't usually put too much money into the card.

>>62125993
Who is we

>not having 40000円on your card

Die serf.

>>62126005
By we I mean tourist.

>>62125690
Okay, sorry.

>>62125733
Not everywhere. And guess what, if she tells you raped her afterwards, it's you who will be fucked.

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is this the gaijin tech thread

>>62125929
I'm a Pasmo man.

The shinkansen is unexpectedly smooth, wtf I love Japan now.

>>62125690
How do you live in Japan anon?

>>62125675
sauce

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>>62126215
stoodent

>>62125733
This law has been misinterpreted by foreigners countless times.

>>62126230
Do you understand Japanese? Is it hard to live a normal life there if you don't know a single tiny little bit of it? Was thinking about having an exchange there.

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>>62126291
Well enough to live I guess, though my language level is garbage for having lived here for like 4 years.

Obviously knowing absolutely nothing is bad but you can get by with a surprising little.

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>>62125856
That looks so unnecessarily complex

>>62125733
Age of consent is 16 in Tokyo idiot.

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MAMONAKU MAMONAKU

>>62126329
It is unnecessarily complex. As I said, they have included the mechanism to flip the ticket to the right orientation, which takes up quite a lot of space compared to other turnstiles. And well, maybe there's other functions that I haven't discovered.

>>62125856
thanks for the picture anon

Was in Japan until yesterday. The Shinkansen Superexress is the best thing they have ever done. It's a shame the JR pass doesn't let you use the Nosomi and Mizuho.

Also used the EVA 500 which is an Evangelion themed Shinkansen between Osaka and Hakata.

>>62126462
Multiple ticket formats, ability to process multiticket transactions where some come back and others are kept (say, base fare plus assigned seat upgrade, where the turnstile keeps the base fare ticket so you can't hand Tokyo-Hakata off inside the station to someone willing to accept standing room only who passed through the turnstile on a Tokyo-Shinagawa ticket.)

>>62125651
how about holding your phone still?

>>62126672
>>62125856

>>62126329
>>62126462
>could have make it suck the ticket with vacuum and 2 bar code sensor up and down.
>but no, lets make it mechanical because we gendems.

>>62125651
Japan is what I consider the ideal country to live in. To imply that their public transportation is shit is laughable.

>>62126067
All hail King Jim!

>>62126704
what the fuck are you implying?

>>62125904
as if anyone cares about that
they probably flip it around so it can be scanned properly
they should have just used mirrors so both sides can be seen by a single scanner at once, if a scanner each side is just too expensive, which i doubt it is compared to all that mechanical stuff

>>62126043
that goes for any age

>>62126700
Good luck getting your solution to work near-flawlessly with a turnaround cycle of around a second, using technology available in the mid-80s.

>>62126291
it will be hard but doable.
the locals will not have any respect for you though.
integrate or fuck off whito piggu.

>>62126736
those mechanical stuff are around since the 20s.

>>62126725
Some are magstripe. Some aren't. Some are large and can be inserted with 4 orientations, some are small and can be inserted with 8 orientations. Some need to be punched, and some need to be stamped. Some need to be shredded by the machine, and some need to be returned. This needs to work perfectly during rush hour with several thousand people per minute using a bank of turnstiles.

>>62126761
Ticket format was redesigned and moved to near-full automation around when JR privatized, so I'm being charitable.

>>62126763
>Some are magstripe. Some aren't. Some are large and can be inserted with 4 orientations, some are small and can be inserted with 8 orientations. Some need to be punched, and some need to be stamped. Some need to be shredded by the machine, and some need to be returned.
sounds like they've dug themselves a hole

>>62125711
>there sould be signs saying hold on to your ticket.
Why would you hold onto your ticket? You have to put it through the machine.

>>62125733
That's not correct. I think that at 13~15 you are still in felony area for men, if you are a woman then at worst you'll just get a misdemeanor.

>>62126783
Sure. A hole from which it's far easier to climb out by putting several linked ticket readers in the otherwise empty space of a turnstile railing, than to completely replace several railways' ticket printers and stock while dropping human readability/cancelability and requiring a fully modernized setup at every ridership: 100 rural platform.

>>62125733
>>62126282

Pedophilia is legal in Japan.

>>62126783
It works though. You don't see them being opened up for maintenance very often and when you do they're usually done in 10 minutes.

>>62126828
Another misinterpretation.

>>62125856
And I thought the Krauts over-engineered everything.

>>62126828
By that definition, pedophilia is even more legal in the US. At least Japan has a national minimum lower than every prefecture's minimum, the US has no national minimum and only state minimums.

You're also missing the various contributing-to-delinquency laws, which basically work out to the same effect as same-age and marriage exceptions in the west.

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>>62125651
the one thing I miss most about japan was buying a $20 bottle of black label and getting slammed while wondering around the city. Plus I have a lot of piercings so I was considered by them to be super "badass" american.

found a hostel in kyoto that was like a luxery hotel for just $20 a night. You walk about aside and everything is right fucking there and it was so fucking amazing holy shit my poor stomach has never been so full before.

went to every fucking hentai/sex shop we could find in akihabara, didn't even get told to leave the men's only places cause baka ganjin. there is SO much fucking porn there, and it is all worth spending $$$ on instead of finding stuff online. It's more organized than a fucking library

god everything is amazing about that country, I want to go back. Just looking at that ticket machine picture brings back some great memories. everyone is so fucking polite, to themselves and friendly.

>>62126988
sounds kimoi af

>>62125856
>重ねて
Why would you need to insert several, different tickets at once?

>>62126863
I believe he was talking about there being no law against possessing pornography of minors in Japan.

>>62126819
Well, maybe those cities can change their private metro easier? I know JR with their rural stations are hard.

>>62126832
OP here, I met two maintenances today at different stations. Maybe I should get a lottery ticket.

>>62126672
I was in a busy station and it is not preferred to take photo in public area. I took another photo in another station.

>>62125690
Wait what, I thought taking photos with no faces is allowed in Japan?

>>62127229
not about allowance, it's just annoying seeing foreigners take photos of all this dumb shit and livestreaming themselves doing everything

>>62127033
Fare+upgrade, transfer+fare, possibly transfer+fare+upgrade.

>>62127229
"Allowed" and "preferred" are different. Face blocking is a legal thing, scowling at the asshole foreigner with a selfie stick making 500 people miss their train is a politeness thing.

>>62127241
Hong Kong uses a quite simple solution for this shit, you have to buy all the fare and upgrade you need at the ticket vending machine if you're using tickets, and no transfer discount for ticket users.

>>62127291
Oh god. I'm from Hong Kong and MTR is a fucking wet dream, i wish there was a MTR-like system in the US.

Fucking take me back. I honestly hate daily live in the US because everything is so far apart from each other. Crossing the street takes 30 seconds because the streets are like 2x or 3x the size of an asian street.

I have to pay for gas and shit too. I loved the octopus card system where basically worked as a card for all daily purchases because even restaurants and grocery stores and department stores allow you to use your transportation money to buy other shit.

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Another Japanese old technology, those metal badges and buttons are comfy as hell.

>>62127060
Pretty sure that was made a few years back

>>62127033
Japan has some kinda weird systems which I dunno if I could fully explain the reasons for, but in the case of Shinkansen in particular some stations have two sets of gates, local lines and then Shinkansen, so when you buy your Shinkansen ticket you may get two tickets and when you arrive at your destination (say Tokyo) it will eat your seat fare ticket for the Shinkansen and then you can walk onto a local train and get off at the local station with the final ticket.
Because that final ticket is part of your trip fare it gets checked through.

>>62127291
Having to buy fare+upgrade at once is worse for setups like Japan's where long-distance express and local service run on the same lines, and transfers are unavoidable for some long-distance service across multiple operators and because base JR pricing (even though JR is actually multiple separate companies) are by distance band. HK's solution works for HK's size with a single operator, but in Japan it would have been a politically untenable near-doubling of long distance service prices as part and parcel of JR's privatization and splitting.

>>62125651
>people living in countries so backward they are amazed by a mechanical ticket reading machine

>>62125690
>gaijin living in japan here

wow if it isn't the emperor himself, the ultimate authority of the land. oh wait, you're just another loser weeaboo faggot that should probably shut the fuck up and commit suicide.

>>62127704
>not knowing Japanese turnstile is much more complex compare to others.

>>62127852
I do know my man
But there is really no need for this
Here in my country we also have gated rails but we just made all tickets digital. Far cheaper than maintaining such complex mechanics

>>62125929

>Not using mobile suica (NFC)

What are you? An analog die-hard?

>>62127908
>rfid
>analog
Back to school with you

>>62127908
Eh, don't you need to either own a Japanese phone or an iPhone to use mobile Suica?

Also,
>not using icoca

>>62125929
>not using pasmo like the total pleb you are

>>62127933

That's right, to get as japanese as possible use japanese phone and iphone (Go buy cheap at thrift shop)

>>62127787
Dare you tell the emperor to suicide? Away with you.

>>62127908
>>62127955
Passmo is for serfs and tickets are for omega serfs.

>>62128021
Honestly, I haven't seen many, if any, Japanese people using iPhones (or Apple Watch for that matter) to pay at stations.

It's kinda hard to be sure though, most of the time they use cellphone cases that have space for IC cards in them, so they could just have an IC card in the case when they swipe it over the turnstile instead of using the phone's ability.

>>62128182
Not looking hard enough if you've never seen people tapping their phones on a ticket gate nfc thing.

>>62128222
I have seen people tapping their phones, but I covered that.

Remember also that to use Suica with Apple Pay you need to have a credit card, which a lot of Japanese people don't have, while with mobile Suica it can just be put onto their phone bill.

>>62125856
Horry shit, that's like a fucking production line.

>>62125675
sauce pl0x

I hope I can one day get into railway, looks kinda fun.

>>62128432
Took this a couple of years ago.

Oh, max webm size is only 3mb? Well too lazy to remake this since it's 3.13mb, so here.

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>>62128516

>>62126828
Let me guess. The law basically says that a 13 year old is allowed to fuck someone up to a certain age, like 15, right? But as soon as the person is above the age limit it becomes illegal (like a 13 and 17 year old). Because thats a similar system to what the Germans/Austrians have.

>>62128664
Actually means to respond to this guy >>62126282

>>62128664
It's mostly misinterpreted because everywhere in the country has a more regional sex age that is older than the 13 year old national one. So it's not "wrong" to say the age of consent is 13, but it's wrong in the sense that the age is actually older everywhere in the country.

>>62128691
So a 20 year old actually is allowed to fuck a 13 year old?

>>62128701
*assuming theres some place that doesnt have an adjusted age.

Whats the lowest to YOUR knowledge?

>>62128701
No it's like federal law say 13yo are ok but every single state have +15yo laws, it's technically correct but not really.

>>62128701
It pretty much every place in Japan it is a felony for a 20yo man to have sex with a 13yo girl.

It's only a misdemeanor if a 20yo woman has sex with a 13yo boy though.

>>62128746
>>62128751
Yea I specified my question here >>62128713, my bad. So 15 is the lowest you know of, thats intersting.

>>62128701
Most likely no.

Some places have laws that prohibit sex with anyone under 18. Other places may allow it under circumstances like if it's a consenting relationship and the parents are okay with it.

Basically it is possible for it to be legally acceptable but the laws are open enough to allow the police to go after anyone they want for such weird relationships.

It's also basically irrelevant because no one over 20 is going to be in a legit romantic relationship with someone that young. The only time these laws come into play is in like actual pedophilia or child prostitution cases, in which case the people are definitely going to get prosecuted.

In summary, the "japan age of consent is 13" thing is nonsense.

>>62126704
>Japan is what I consider the ideal country to live in.
Then move there and be prepared to get disappointed, you clueless weeb child.
>To imply that their public transportation is shit is laughable.
No one implied that. Also there are multiple countries with transportation as good as Japan that don't make you want to kill yourself due to long work hours and inability to save any money ever.

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So it does mag stripe?

>>62128860
While I agree with your first comment (living in Japan is complete fucking aids unless you have enough money so you dont have to work a single day in your life and can simply enjoy the country, without having to bother with worklife), I completely disagree that there are countries with an equal level of public transportation. I have been to Japan about half a dozen times now and can say that their trains are more punctual and efficient than anything else I have ever witnessed. And I am from Germany, which is regarded as another contender for that title (I believe). I've also been to plenty of other European nations and Japan schools all of them in that regard. So unless Korea or Singapoore (which are the only "countries" I can think of that could potentially have a better one) do a better job, I dont see anyone who is able to surpass them in that regard.

>>62128543
Nice G-wagen

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>Obtained formal offer of employment from company in Tokyo
>Due to work starting next years april

MFW thinking of self being squished into sardine-can train at each commute.

>>62129660
Get a bike

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>>62126230

>>62129660
Rent a tiny apartment near the office and walk nigga. You will need that extra free time after working 14 hours a day lmao

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>>62129660
>Getting squished in next to cute young girls.

>>62126230
>>62129716
What actual use does this have over a folding bike?

This looks useless for just about anything but driving on a sidewalk

>>62129660
Have fun literally being worked to death.

If there's one place on earth with a more toxic and deadly employee/employer relationship than the U.S. it's fucking Japan.

>>62129736
they all go to the women only car

>>62129741
it was sold together with a keicar and it fits snugly in the boot, the idea was to be able to park far away and just use the motocompo for the last 500m or so.

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>>62129753
>Getting squished in next to cute young boys.

>>62129753
C U C K E D

>>62129771
Kill yourself.

>>62129744

I was being told that I am expected to be assigned to oversea division after training. Sigh.

>>62129744
>>62129731
This is a dumb meme
Assuming you work in tech as this is /g/.
Working in Japanese tech industry is pretty good
8 hour work days with paid break, paid holidays and they respect off time
Pay isn't the best given the living expenses here but enough to support a middle class family

>>62125856
That's a really elaborate juice press

>>62129841
Oversea companies have less traditional structure than those Japanese companies.

PhD student in japan masterrace, fuck the work culture.

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>icoca
>pasmo
>suica
Last time I went to Japan in 2014 they were starting to make all of them interoperable and let you use any one anywhere in Japan.
Did they stop? Why are people arguing? Have I been memed?

grorious nippon

>>62130167
They're inter-operable for the trains, usually. What you buy still changes depending on where you are, and not all of them are used for the same services outside of train stations.

>>62129374
What's with the weird blend of both English and Japanese?

>>62130271
Kansai Airport is an International Airport, so it kinda makes sense to have it in English as well so that the person who bought the ticket will know. Perhaps if you select English on the machine it prints in English as well (same with any other languages the machine supports).

In Japanese so station staff will understand too. It certainly isn't common for tickets to be printed in both though.

>>62129753
Can't all fit in women only cars.

>>62129736
This can actually be hell. Keep your hands well up in this situation so you can't get accused of groping.

>>62130196
>>62130167
They are all inter-operable on JR services.
Most other major lines and buses support all of them.
Some smaller local lines and bus services will support local IC cards only.

Now, anywhere that accepts one of the major IC cards accepts all the other major IC cards.

Icoca is still the best because of the name.

>>62130333
This, and point your phone to nothingness and try to cover the camera with your finger if possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

stay out of japan, weebs, you're disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Z2O9Nwt6c

What do you gays think about this.

>>62130961
Ryan is a known dick
He moved to Japan, continued to be a ignorant prick and got ostracized

>>62130961
He looks like a fucking faggot and the guy he's talking about also looks like a whiny faggot.
Chinks are even worse than japs, he doesn't what he's in for.

>>62131586
*know

>>62128751
Nice.

>>62130961
>trying to work as an english teacher in japan
get a life.

the only job worth in japan for a gaijin is being a high level in an mnc and can speak perfect nipponese.

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>>62125856
wtf the ones we have in London are so much more compact than this

one ticket size, no flipping and a contactless card pad

fuck off weeaboos


>>>/jp/

way too many people in this thread have a suspiciously large amount of knowledge surrounding age of consent laws in foreign countries

>>62129753
>the train grope pervy men problem in Japan is so bad they have women only carriages

>Jap NFC Suica and Pasmo (Sony Felica system)
>turnstiles recognize them instantly
>pretty much every subway system in America uses Philips/NXP MiFare
>slow as fuck
>you have to keep it on the sensor for almost a second for it to go through
>more expensive than Felica
>turns out Philips/NXP used extremely high-powered lobbyists to shut Sony out of North American NFC transit payment system market

>>62130961
>the censor is removed right at the end of the video
>guy looks like rick astley

xD

>>62131047
>>62131586
>>62132107
>t. assclown without jobs talking about a culture they don't know.
Japan is a nightmare, you must be mad to even thought of working there.

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>>62132229
This is what we have in France

>>62132826
shit

>>62132826
>turnstyle and gate

for what purpose

that looks like a hassle to use

>>62125651
>>62125856
Overcomplicated that it needs repairs in the middle of the day

>>62134111
that's a monorail, right?

>>62133351

Because Par*sians are subhumans who HATE paying for tickets. Barrier jumping is a big problem.

I love trains.
Am I autistic?

>>62132559
But I already do
And it's pretty good
Sure the pay isn't as good as in my home country but my working rights are the same and my boss is a fucking hero

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>>62132826
Geo on our level

>>62125651
I miss using my PASMO, I'm sad every time I have to use public transportation in my country, Japan was just so good and efficient.

Trying to get a ticket in japan:
>approach machine
>press recharge
>insert card
>insert money
>done

Trying to get a ticket in Italy:
>approach machine
>loud BE WARY OF PICKPOCKETS message that can't be skipped
>type destination station on the unresponsive on-screen keyboard
>pick train
>DO YOU WANT TO DONATE TO CHARITY?
>no fuck off
>THIS TRAIN DEPARTS IN A FEW MINUTES ARE YOU REALLY SURE?
>yes
>PLEASE PAY
>machine accepts no paper money or coins but it looks exactly the same as the one that does
>switch to the correct machine
>BE WARY OF PICKPOCKETS
>get through the menu again
>PRINTING......
>ticket gets stuck
>need to insert your arm in the machine to retrieve it
>get to the train platform
>train already left
>can't use the ticket on another train

I miss Japan

Being male model in Japan is pretty good.

>>62132421
MiFare isn't that bad m8
We use it here too
Can just swipe it by effortlessly
The sensors are probably just garbage

>>62134185
Osaka monorail yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYFIeKCUDdk

>>62132229
>Beep Beep

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>>62132826
This is what we have in Washington, DC. They stopped using paper tickets a while back so now we just use an electronic card we can load money to.

>>62126828
Paedophilia is legal everywhere.

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>>62134285
I was showing Paris metro.
Most tram and train are like that (except that for train, the machine punch the ticket.

>>62128543
These are like horror movies to me, I keep expecting someone to either run in front of the train or the train to derail in a gory mess or something

>>62127236
>stop liking what I don't like

>>62127533
>tfw no elevator gf

>>62134151
I happen to be an expert on all trains worldwide.

Japan's turnstiles system is infamously complex. Japan has 150+ prefecture/municipal/regional/JR train companies. In the 50s, as "Motha" JR started to use turnstiles, all these companies also started their own implementation.

By the 80s, with the amount of commuters from the economic boom, the clusterfuck of systems were deemed unoperatable.

At the same time, Japan started to push for "Zero-Obstacle" campaign (for the elderly and blinds). So all the train companies were forced to start to integrate their shit ticketing systems together.

By the early 2000s, the integration was more or less completed (at the very least, the turnstile would at least return your ticket if the turnstile couldn't handle it.) Then JR went and did PAssmo and Tokyo Metro implemented Isuca, and all hell break lose again. It wasn't until ~2014 that both systems are interopreatable. Thank god.

I was in Japan again this April, and half the ads on trains were a series of ads for JR+Apple about how you can finally use Apple Pay on trains and surrounding stores. So yeah, Japan is pretty behind on the NFC front.

If this thread is still up by end of day, I will go back home and dig up some photos of early Japanese train turnstiles from my files.

PS. It's mesmerizing how efficient a Japanese turnstile is at handling morning rush hour traffic. Your normal 3 spokes turnstiles in Europe/HK are glacial in comparison.

>>62126414
underrated post, really gave me flashbacks

>>62134567
Eh, just remember HK replaced the spokes turnstiles with the 2 slides one. Still, I could count, with 2 hands, the number of times the folks in front of me at a queue at a HK train turnstile got into trouble with the machine.

>>62125856
Is that a midget or average sized Jap?

>>62134331
>old ticket app on cellphone
>20min + 1h + 20min swap
>ticket valid for like 3 hours in case you miss one of the departures, have like 20 minute between departures, takes 5-10 to get to the next bus stop/train platform

>new app
>same ride
>expected to take the recommended bus to train station
>have 3 minutes to run 300m + down an escalator and quarterback yourself through at least 10 baby families with trollies walking in line formation at like 3 feet an hour
>then have to swap to a bus in 7 minutes (lol no, train always 5 minutes late), have to run through another 150m, up and down a two man wide staircase through drunk students, two gypsies and another line formation of three-seat-baby-trollies
>still miss the bus and get fined 150€ for non-valid ticket because the ticket is only valid for 1h45min because that's all it should take for a teleporting wizard who likes public transports
>scream at the ticket validator
>get 4 years in jail for hate crime because xir was a muslim

>>62127787
U okay?

>>62126219
>>62128289
https://exhentai.org/g/722241/91a9758b53/

>>62134638
also
>new app hides the cheap trains
>can't purchase tickets if the train departs in the next 20 minutes
>guaranteed to get the search wrong the very first time you use it

why can't we have nice shit

>>62134345
People in Japan do not stop when walking through turnstile because Felica is so fast.

S. Korea, which uses Mifare, had multiple upgrades on the receivers, but people still have to stop for half a sec for the reader to beep.

Other places with Mifare are even slower, of course.

Are Japanese railways owned by private companies?

>>62129660
Granted you're here your odds of autismo are sky high, have fun being that creepy akward gaijin

>>62126329
Not really. It takes in raw lumber and processes it directly into tickets. Very compact.

Only in Japan.

>>62126043
>rape once, get one free

>>62134111
magical

>>62134454
>Composting tickets
Taking green a bit far, are we?

>>62127236
You should make some friends

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>>62125651

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>>62134354
we have a meme monorail here in vegas

>>62134638
fucking lel
>>62134712
>new app hides the cheap trains
Whereabouts is this? That's fucked

its like a dream country. if i can work late all the time for a good amount of pay, i would do it.
im kinda tried of american shit now and its always how you morons fight over stupid ass shit and stuff, maybe what i need is the calm and busy life of an asian society.
ps. im not white so i can blend right in just fine with them with my chinese face :^)

>>62127533
>400kg capacity
kek a single american can't even use a Japanese elevator

>japan
>buy the cheapest ticket
>pay the difference when you get off

>world
>buy the wrong ticket
>get fined $100~$300 if caught

>>62127533
>>62137570
>max capacity 400kg
>6 people max
>400/6=67kg roughly 150lb
fucking manlets

>>62134475
Shut up retard

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>>62136137
We have a meme monorail here as well built for the World's Fair. It's showing it's age quite a bit and is just a tourist spot now.

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I'm very jealous of modern places like Japan. They have both rail and bicycle culture while NA was sold the car meme.

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>>62134567
Tell me more about Hungarian trains

>>62138089
I want this as well.

>>62132229
Italianfag who is going to live for the next month in London here
Any advices for public transport/life in general there? Sorry for derailing the thread

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The Tokyo Metro was fantastic. I love the information screens that tell you exactly where you are in the train and where the exits will be (WebM related, took this on a Ginza line train). So much better than the London Underground that I use daily. Also
>tfw Pasmo doesn't register when I touch out to leave the subway one time
>spill my spaghetti when it doesn't let me back in through the gate
>too embarrassed to go to the station counter
>fuck this.jpg
>go and buy another Pasmo from the ticket machine
I wasted about ¥5,000 worth of credit because of that.

The Shinkansen is also nice but I thought it would be faster, also the Tohoku Shinkansen trains are ugly as fuck.

The Yurikamome in Tokyo is fucking cool, I'd definitely recommend riding it end-to-end just to see all the cool shit and go over the bridge (get on at Shimbashi and ride to Toyosu and back). It runs on rubber wheels along a guided track.

>>62138507
>>too embarrassed to go to the station counter
Dumb cunt.
This happened to me the first time I got my Icoca and went through the gates (didn't detect properly through my wallet, got a card case after that). Just went to the counter at the gates and told him the station I came from and he charged it through.

>>62138507
>The Shinkansen is also nice but I thought it would be faster
Which Shinkansen lines did you take and where to?

>>62138612
Tokaido to Kyoto, then the Sanyo to Hiroshima

>>62138507
>filming video on trains

reeee

>>62138644
Those ones max out around 260km/h. The Tohoku ones get up to 300km/h after Utsunomiya.

>>62125856
why is all of that shit needed to scan a single ticket?

>>62138721
Read the thread.

>>62138744
This so much.
There is an extreme trend going on off people not reading the thread.
More than usual, thank God summer is over in 2 days.

>>62138039
they don't seen to be as good as regular subway trains. is there any major pros for monorails?

>>62134331
F A T E A T T E N Z I O N E A I B O R S E G G I A T O R I

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>>62134285
australia is similar

>>62125733
>age of consent is 13
not exactly, but there are plenty of prostitutes who are "18"
take that as you will

>>62125713
?????

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only card i need

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>>62140263
Jesus fucking Christ I remember when they were selling these shits and stations were backed up from dipshits buying them.

NYC needs to hurry the fuck up with revamping the subway. I'm glad all the stations now have cellular+wifi but NFC fare systems can't come soon enough so we can end this meme of "please swipe again at the same turnstile" Also fuck these trains. Pic related

>>62140348
fuck you i love those trains

>>62140780
I get the aesthetic but the constant smell of garbage and hobos on the G line trains as well as the E/M lines have completely put me off-road these types of cars.

I like the slightly altered A line with the cubbies near the doors and way better lighting as well as the older grey C line train which I'm pretty sure have sadly been completely phased out.

>>62140829
the staten island subways actually don't smell bad

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>mfw haven't paid for a train ticket since the ninth of august
NSB (norwegian state railroad) has this app that lets you pay for your tickets, but it doesn't work anymore for me. No idea why. I should probably fix this when I move to downtown Oslo tomorrow.

Also,
>they have turnstiles and shit to get into the trains
lel

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>>62132283

>>62125651
everything << north korean missile technology

>>62138446
there is an unspoken rule that you must not speak to anyone on the tube

>>62129879
World's finest choocher

>>62138082
>Island versus third of a continent
>Have different predominant modes of transport
Really compiles my kernels

>>62138082
frankly most of North America didn't have much of a choice considering how far away everything is if you dont live right in the middle of a city.

>having your ticket checked before you get on the train
Why does Germany seem to be one of the only countries that cant even be bothered to do that?

>>62143045
DB is pretty easy to cheat as a foreigner
>buy ticket for cheap train from a to b
>get in fast train from a to b
>guy who checks the tickets gets mad but can only speak German
>just gives up and let's you sit
Happened to me multiple times now

>>62127033
Seat plus fare

>>62137780
>what are women

>>62143317
Except that one guy who won't let you stay and writes you up and you get a criminal record for the next 3 years.

>>62129577
Singapores subway system is lovely but the shinkansen blows literally every other train system out of the water

>>62134240
it looks like you could easily crawl under the gate

>>62143470
>except that one guy who will stay with and escort you out
Is what you mean
This also happened once
I am a foreigner there remember

>>62129577
Hong Kong MTR removed the schedule since the route is too short and they have pushed the signal system to its limit to handle all those fag immigrants. Basically 2-3 minutes for another train, and some fucking faggot still rush for that train and wasted everyone's time.

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>>62134285
This is light rail system in HK, the orange thing is the IC entry validator, and MTR send staff on train occasionally to check tickets/IC.

>>62140039
Japan occasionally uses similar ones, generally at small stations.

They can also set them up on the fly. On Sunday there was an airshow in my area, the station which usually handles maybe tens people getting on and off trains had thousands of people waiting to get on, so they opened up a gate beside the station and positioned one of those readers next to it for people getting off the trains and people going on the trains heading east (shorter distance, less people).

>>62139249
They seemed like the future in the past, now it's just a novelty.

>>62139249
I think the idea was that they could be put up in a city where you couldn't put down track.

But they turned out to be much more expensive to maintain than regular rail.

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>>62126329
>>62138721

The ticket gate can:
>read tickets
>punch holes in said tickets
>print onto said tickets
>spit ticket out of entrance if it is wrong somehow
>keep ticket if your ticket is not needed for a transfer/exit gate
>correct the orientation of tickets inserted improperly
>do all of the above even if multiple tickets are inserted at once
>read IC cards from about a dozen different providers
>read nfc off of cellphones
>display the amount remaining on your IC card/cellphone account

Probably some more shit I am forgetting.

There is a completely clear one at the Kyoto train museum you can put dummy tickets through. It is pretty damn cool.

>>62138507

>The Shinkansen is also nice but I thought it would be faster

If you used your JR Rail pass you were only allowed onto the slower trains that stop at more stations and never really get up to speed.

Plus linear is coming. 310 mph. Nagoya <---> Tokyo will be done in time for the olympics.

>>62128860

I have lived in Japan the last 5 years and will be here for the forseable future.

If you are going there to be an English teacher or good old fashioned 20 work day salaryman, you are most likely gonna have a terrible fucking time.

I would recommend it for a year through jet (good pay, easy work) or study abroad or something, but don't come live here.

>>62145360
The best thing about the shinkansen is the continuing development of the infrastructure, there is also going to be a line to Sapporo potentially in time for the winter Olympics in 2030 or 2026 I forget when

>>62145573
It's pretty mad that you can make it to Hokkaido now by Shinkansen.

>>62142803
Not really all that important, most people live in cities and travel very rarely.
American public transport is third world tier though, little surprise people don't want to use it.

>>62146085
US cities have rail and bicycle and people use them if they're in the city though

>>62146131
>people
I thought only the undesirables use public transport.

>>62146152
This is true which is why you avoid getting a job in the city to alleviate the problem

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>>62146152
>land of freedom where you can't even use public transport and you are forced out of cities
Lost.

gif unrelated

>>62146252
>Relying on the state to transport you instead of getting in your multi-ton metal stallion and braving the risk of highwaymen with nothing but your grit and your peacemaker to bring law to the lawless

How much would japan be blacked in the Olympics?

>>62146636
No more than average?

>>62145360
This is neat anon.

a filthy military gaijin living in japan. also, i just spent 120 USD on a pikachu in a claw game at club sega.

>ama

>>62134413
>They stopped using paper tickets a while back
Nigga I live in Poortugal and the last time I remember seeing a paper ticked was in the 90's or some shit.

>>62140348
>I'm glad all the stations now have cellular+wifi
I thought the US was usually ahead in this kind of shit.
Looks like you guys develop the tech and then don't use them yourselves.

>>62145360
>>punch holes in said tickets
Why? Why are the cards not NFC like the rest of the developed world, specially considering this is Japan.

>>62125733
>>62126828
No honorable nip is going to let some filthy foreigner defile their daughter.

>>62147219
made up story, ignore this eigo sensei

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>>62146252
>Carfags will defend pic related

>>62127236
Isn't there a whole stereo type about Asians being known to do that?

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>>62145360
>If you used your JR Rail pass you were only allowed onto the slower trains that stop at more stations and never really get up to speed.
I used the Nozomi as it was the only way to get directly back to Tokyo from Hiroshima at that time of day. Also that picture is from Kyoto Railway Museum, right? I enjoyed my visit there.

>>62147393
Nothing more comfy than using good public transport when possible (and hiring a cab or renting a car when public transport isn't viable, I'm no extremist). To say nothing of the monies saved. I pity the pajeets who have shitty public transport and are forced to buy a car.
Who else /first world city mustard race/?

>>62138082
>Japan can setup a modern public transportation system to where they're not slaves to mr goldberg-sans automobile and oil industry
>Americans think having to be stuck for an hour in traffic to go anywhere that isn't farmland is true freedom and can't even put money into a decent transportation alternative because mr goldberg doesn't like it

>>62147275
London still uses paper tickets

>>62147413
Why didn't the employees move it closer for you? That should happen after a while

>>62147481
I hate commuting by car, but I'd rather live/work far away from a major metropolitan area than live in a city and have good public transportation.

>>62147413
That's a super cute pikachu

>>62147563

First attempt was close-ish to midnight. spent like 45 minutes. I went back the next week a guy was moving it some and pro-tipping me as much as his english would allow him.

My fiance wanted it.

>>62147556
>paper tickets
Maybe if you're a filthy tourist, and even then you can get a visitor Oyster card or use a contactless credit card.

>>62147413
Kawaii :3

>>62147595
I guess so, but in DC even filthy tourists need to pay the $10 or whatever for a plastic card.

>>62147571
Why?
You just gotta find a good place.
>3 minutes from undergound
>on the edge of a surprisingly big forest (4x7km)
>quiet area, only small streets with next to no cars, no rushing crowds and all that shit
Pretty comfy and at the same time it's way more convenient than living away from civilization.

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This has to be a fucking joke

>>62147850
The TTC ain't THAT bad but it sure as hell didn't deserve an award

>>62125856
Seems fine to me. You guys probably don't realize those things need to work 24/7, be extremely reliable, and quickly diagnose any failure for quick repair. Also those Japanese ones work both ways, you're actually seeing two entire ticket handling mechanisms combined.

The ones in Paris are probably the most elaborate and intricate I saw, can't find a picture, but it's largely more complex than this. Nip ones are smalltime.

>>62126988
I want to slit your throat. Get out of my board 3D whore fuck slut.

>>62148059
>The ones in Paris are probably the most elaborate and intricate I saw, can't find a picture, but it's largely more complex than this. Nip ones are smalltime.

Paris here.
It's way simpler than the japanese ones. You can either use a NFC card or a standard paper ticket, no other options available.

the Paris train system is actually loved by tourists ; the same ticket can get to to the Louvre, the Eiffel Tower or Champs Elysees without a problem. Remember that in Japan, different train lines belong to different companies, with different tickets, fares and systems (going from A to B through C is not the same price/ticket than going through D, for example).

But this is /n/ territory.

>>62147732
>Borders a forest
>Quiet streets
>Major metropolitan area
? This must be some difference between euro and American cities. If your in a major metropolitan area in the US the only forests you'll see us if the property borders a park (and expect rental rates to be sky high to compensate). If you travel far enough that things open up your now in the suburbs and not the city itself anymore.

>>62148299
I'm talking about the inner workings anon. There's a dozen computers in there.

>>62148390
I know, I just went offtopic but ours still are simpler inside than the behemoths from Japan.

Actually, the guts of the ticket gates here in Paris look like they are from the 80s/90s and never evolved. Even the PCBs are large and simple.

be in poland

>about 30 rail operators
>16 of them managed by local government
>main rail operator is split in 5, main, "local", "cheap", express, freight
>rest are managed by city
>each one of 16 "local" rail operators has incompatible fares
>tickets for "local" trains are incompatible for "city" trains, but are "compatible" with **some** "main" operator tickets
>train fares are different than for buses or trams and wildly incompatible
>no ticket machines, except main stations
>"no fuck you, this counter sells tickets only for operators C & D but not for A &B"
>older modified stock provides better ride comfort than newer one, despite it; it's being scrapped en masse, as we speak

>>62142601
Got that covered, here in Italy theres this same unspoken rule

>>62148708
Will you use the tube to commute to work and if so which line

>>62143493
gypsies do.

>>62148738
i don't still know, we'll get more details in the next fays

>>62148754
Just pray it's not the Central line

>>62130961
Hes not wrong. The thing is if you know that you won't be accepted among 95% of Japanese society and understand that well enough to go about things and find happiness for yourself, you should be fine. Some people go there with this disillusion of "Oh man I practiced my Japanese and now I'm at JPLT N5" like it wont matter. The work life there is still 10 hours on average, your commitment to a company is 10 years at least, you'll never be fully accepted among the civilians there just because you don't look Japanese, and a bunch of other nonsense that we call being xenophobic. If you can accept all that then you can enjoy Japan for yourself and find happiness and hopefully share it with someone you'd call your Significant Other.

>>62148766
is it really /that/ crowded?
Also what about buses?

>>62148822
It's not just looking japanese, anyone born outside of japan will never be fully accepted either.

>>62134475
No, it really is cancer.

>>62148835
It's crowded, extremely hot, noisy and it breaks down all the time.

>>62132229
God I fucking hate London metro, especially the fucking central line. What utter fucking shit.

>>62148965
True, even full blooded Japanese born in the US or Brazil or whatever get discriminated against in Japan.

>>62127236
Meanwhile in the US: hordes of Asians clogging up every building taking constant pictures of everything

>>62149608
At least cute Asian tourists are easy to pick up and fuck on the day. Makes me feel like I'm living in an anime.

>>62147946
You didn't see the competition.
You instantly get in the top bracket if nobody died using your system in the last 5 years.
Honestly we really need to address these things as we can do so much better.

>>62149350
yea new tube trains only started getting air conditioning 2 years ago and a lot of old trains from the 80s and 90s are still in use

>>62148551
>>older modified stock provides better ride comfort than newer one
What is better than pendolino? Not that I use trains too much, but everything else I tried was even worse.

>>62125856
>sketch
You have a sony phone
do you have the xperia z5?

>>62148551
I don't see your problem, just buy the ticket you need, no shit it will only work for the exact thing you bought and won't be compatible with anything else.
The counter thing is at most annoying, anyway you can buy online and print it yourself so I never had to actually experience it.

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>>62127236
Hate to break it to you, but East Asian tourists do that shit all the time in London, even moreso than other races. Tourists are invariably scum. If you have to be a tourist, go somewhere irrelevant like Spain where nobody cares what the natives think.

To keep this on topic, let's have a look at what the UK rail system would be using if our government wasn't hopelessly shit at everything.

>>62149711
>cute Asian tourists are easy to pick up

Literally how? They always travel in packs and giggle at everything while speaking Asianese.

>>62151410
This, every time I have to commute into London there's chinks/gooks fucking everywhere and they are the single most obnoxious people I have ever seen.

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>>62151410
Those Shinkansen trains are ugly af. 500 series the best.

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>>62151466
By acting like an overconfident shit. If you're attractive, just approach them and make small talk while hinting at any plans for tonight - let me show you the best part of london and me - but don't be quiet/shy about it. I'm bad at conceptualizing people already, so when I see cute asians I don't really see humans but really cute sex toys that I really want to fuck and snuggle with and that just boosts my fake confidence even more.

>>62125856
Could it be simpler? Ya, but the benefits of keeping it mechanicly complex? You get people working; creating the components, repariing, installing, etc. Japan also has a large industry based on the automation sector, so it isn't probably a big cost to keep this kind of system running smoothly. Export your automation tech around the world and keep your people employed.

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>>62151599
Literally the exact opposite of what I've been doing up to now. Well, cheers for the advice. brb about to embarrass myself in front of some Chinese qts.

>>62151656
Pretending you're a tourist and lost and sidelining into hanging out with them for the day as fellow tourists was how I slowly eased myself into it if that helps.

Is this /jp/? Post more trains.

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> Discussing japanese trains on austrian clone of taiwanese boat forum

>>62125690
>Please go and stop
>Go and stop
Jimmy Carter? Dat you?

>>62126312
reminds me about the guy who made the documentary' japan, a story of love and hate', or a title something along those lines. he'd been there for like 3 years for the bbc but didn't really do shit at all to learn the language or culture, then proceeds to shittalk the land for an hour and a half even tho he knows nothing. he gets laughed at late in the doc by using 'konnichiwa' at night time. really shitty film.

so if you're doing anything at all to understand the language you're doing better than most gaijin.

>>62127236
Get over yourself you fucking loser weeb. Anyone would take a picture of something interesting like this.

>>62151410
>UK rail system would be using if our government wasn't hopelessly shit at everything
Don't want mohammad blowing up a newly built train system now would we : ^ )

>>62147317
Cards are NFC, tickets are not.

>>62152902
To be fair to him, the Japanese don't really have a set rule for when they change over from konnichiwa to konbanwa. I have heard some saying konnichiwa when I thought it was past time to change and konbanwa when it's only around 5.30pm and not even dark yet.

So unless it was like 10pm or something he was probably fine.

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>>62132229
guts atBounds Green

>>62154720
What are you even trying to say?

>>62151067
X performance, only costs 375 half a year ago.

>>62154720
It's the Irish who always blow up our trains actually.

>>62151410
OP here, pl-plz don't bully, I am Asian ;_;

>>62151067
And Z3+ and Z5 are shit tier phone since they use 810 and they fucking overheat when you use it.

>>62155736
>And Z3+ and Z5 are shit tier phone since they use 810 and they fucking overheat when you use it.
I have the z3+/ Z4, I agree that the over heating is a minor issue. Phone gets pretty hot whenever its plugged in and watching YouTube videos, or playing some graphics intensive game

but I like everything else about the phone desu. And I will probably get a sony phone again when it's time to upgrade. I was debating between the Z5 and X performance, but looking now, the XZ price seems to fairly similar

>>62155155
To be fair I've heard people say 'good day' during the night.
Force of habit I guess.

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>>62155155
>So unless it was like 10pm or something
it was 10pm or something

>>62156491
see
>>62155956
But I know people just want to laugh at foreigners so they are less forgiving of little errors like that.