/pcbg/ PC Building General

fucking die you worthless waste of life miner degenerates

>>62116527
Lmao that stock photo is funny

>>62116848
look up soldering stock photos, they ALL do that

>>62116527
what are we looking at? she doesn't have a wrist strap?

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>>62116652
Ahahahahaha

>>62117151
oh boy his hair

>>62117138
have you never solder before, anon?

>>62117170
no. please explain the joke to me

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>>62117215
she's holding the bit that gets hot

>>62117240
ah ty

>Vega is DOA
>cryptomining is slowing down
Has Nvidia won?

>>62117405
Cryptomining helps Nvidia more doesn't it?

>>62117427
Only the 1060 and 1070 to an extent were desirable by miners. And only because AMD cards were sold out everywhere.

>>62117427
absolutely.

>>62117151

jesus christ

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Thoughts on this? Meant to be made for making my dumb tv smart, so streaming amazon, youtube, playing bluray and such. I'd really like to spend less on the case but this one was the best match I found so feel free to suggest something else entirely.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JRfmtJ

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>>62116527
>Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high

Just no, no, no, Vega is a fucking joke

>>62117655
>that boy
Can't even talk shit though, computers were junk when I was his age, DDR single cores n shit.

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I need a media pc to watch anime in my living room. Moved my desktop to the bedroom a while back, and my laptop and living room monitor are kinda incompatible. black levels are really bad and there's nothing I can do to fix it. can't get it to look acceptable by changing the monitor's settings as well. It's not an obscure linux issue because the same problem occurs on Windows.

Should I purchase a small htpc? Or build my own? A glance at amazon tells my I'd better build my own, but maybe there's a good prebuild model I'm missing?

I've never used a tablet. Can a tablet get the job done too? Seems like it would be ideal since I wouldn't need to place keyboard and mouse on my small table.

>>62117693
hey cutie. DIY.

But you can always come over my place and watch your anime

>/pcbg/
More like Port of Reddit.
Fuck off to >>>/v/, morons

>>62117693
I'm the guy behind >>62117600 and I'm currently in a similar situation. If I didn't need an optical drive I'd just go with these new mini pcs like the intel NUC, Zotac Zbox or one of these shuttle things. Also I heard the these booksize Lenovo desktops seem to be pretty decent. However I also wanted a good onboard sound and the possibilty of putting a dedicated soundcard in there since it needs to feed quite a good hifi system.

>>62117600
RPi, Intel Compute Stick, or similar should do the trick for less money.

>>62117819
Thanks. I can't find any good prebuilds in my country, so it seems
>>62117791
is right and I should build my own if tablets are out of the question.

I notice you don't have a graphics card and cpu cooler in that setup. Are they not needed for media PCs? That would make thingsa lot easier for me since I'd be worried about things fitting in the case.

>>62117600
You could save some money if you got a case with a built in PSU. But if you already own it thats fine. Look into Silverstone, they make nice HTPC cases for cheaper than that.
You should also get a better CPU if you want to watch BluRays and other high bitrate content. The only good thing about that CPU is that it uses like 7W at max, which is irrelevant for you with a 450w PSU. Skylake and Kaby Lake iGPUs can also do 4K very well.

This would be my recommendation:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TjvbJV

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All better now at the 4.2 Gig, guess it doesn't like having it's NB voltage and CPU voltage set to a static setting. no way the 8350 couldn't do 4.2 on stick vcore.

Anyone here made their own wires for their system?

Canadian here. Been out of the pc loop for a couple years. Looking for a gaming pc, never built one before. I'm about to pull the trigger on this https://m.newegg.ca/products/N82E16883102118/specs unless Im able to get something similar for cheaper. $1500 cad budget, from one retailer if possible.

>>62118083
>I notice you don't have a graphics card and cpu cooler in that setup
they're on the motherboard

>>62118252
link doesn't work for me and just takes me to the homepage

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Ok I'm sticking with this, fucking sick.

>>62118281
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102118

>>62118252
that doesn't look great. slow ram, no info on motherboard, psu, gpu, ssd or hdd models... prebuilts aren't the best.

>>62118252
You can just fill out the same build on pcpartpicker.com and see for yourself.

Making it yourself also guarantees good psu and motherboard quality. You have no idea what's in that prebuilt.

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I overclocked my pc then my pc turned off mid-use and when i rebooted it warned me about how a power surge was detected. I turned it back on and i thought i stopped the overclocking in the bios but then used it for another hour then it turned off again. Now whenever i press the power button it lights up for a millisecond and turns off. I already tried removing the battery from the motherboard to reset the settings but it made no difference. Please help.

>>62118472
aww bbygirl

come to daddy.

>>62118472
RIP

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>>62118504
>>62118520
Yamete...
Itai

Looking to build a gaming PC. Been out of the loop for a few years. $1500CAD Budget, parts preferred from one retailer. Dayz/PUBG games to optimize for. No need to include m+k or monitor. 16gb of ram and a 1060 card I think unless there is better options

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Okay, I need some options, as I barely understand the hardware at all.

Planning of building gaming pc with budget of 1000-2000 dollaroos, mainly for AAA games and grand strategys. From euro if that matters.
I will likely be using one of existing build guides like this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/wj7Ycf/great-intel-gaming-build

but, an family friend of mine, that has hobby of building new pc everynow and then, offered to sell his old pc for a bit under 2000dollars. The build is about 2 years old or so.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QgbkNN

So, the question is, how fool I'd be to turn down that offer, and what possible problems there would be with the aged hardware, even if it is highended?

>>62118252

All from Newegg Canada with basically the same specs. The only things you need are probably a better cooler, keyboard and mouse, and more fans.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/32YLZ8

>>62118543
>>62118252
>>62118341
same op. What is a good mobo? I dont even know what to look for. Someone.build me something for 1500 as if it were your own

>>62118589
he doesn't need to buy windows, you can put a 1060 6Gb in there instead. And the stock cooler on the 1600 is good enough.

>>62118539
daddy gon make you feel good bb.

*slides penis on your booty*

>>62118592
Prebuilts have motherboards with few features that are cheap, and Power Supplies that are cheap and missing things as well.

>>62118550
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QgbkNN
Those parts are $1200 from NEW why the shit would you buy it for $2000 used

Why do so many people need 1 TB HDDs? I'm doing perfectly fine with 380 GB total ,do modern games take up that much more space?

>>62118592
look at ports you want and read reviews

>>62118659
I use multiple 4 TB HDDs.
People do things other than playing games.

>>62118656
you may be retarded anon

>>62118609

Forgot about the video card since I was tinkering with my own list before and I don't game much.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jTDJLD

>he doesn't need to buy windows

I keep seeing that around here, so how does that work?

>>62118659

Yes actually, some of the HDD space requirements have gone full retard at this point

>>62116527

do all games have 60FPS lock built in?

or is that at the nvidia level?

>>62118692
you can Download Windows 10 from MS for free and just run it unactivated only missing a few features

>>62118692
op here, that looks pretty good but does it have room for 4x 4gb ram? looking for 16gb just incase

>>62118692
>how does that work
you could literally just install it from the official usb and never activate it. you still get all updates, you just can't change the wallpaper (you actually can) and there's a watermark.
or you can buy a $20 key online, or even a windows 7 or 8 key.
or you can download a small program that will activate it (piracy, the first two options are legal).

>>62118727
just go for 2x8, quad channel isn't a thing on ryzen

>>62118306
>Temp 3

>>62118707
no
that second question doesn't make sense

>>62118743
so with 16gb of ram instead of the 8, is it a decent pc for gaming? because im ready to pull the trigger

>>62116527
So when the next quad core i3 is released will you fuckers change the OP or keep shilling Poozen?

Got a 1080 ftw3 and getting a i7 7700k, what kinda motherboard should I get

>>62118764

does Vsync lock to your monitor?

>>62116652
>Doing something that you actually make money from is being a waste of life but being a gaymer manchild isn't
What did he mean by this?

Got a 1080 ftw3 and getting a i7 7700k, what kinda motherboard should I get? And if theirs anything else I should buy let me know

>>62118853
Yes, a Ryzen CPU

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nY7vM8

Monitor Operating system and M+K taken care of. How does the build look? missing anything?

>>62118853
Asus ROG MAXIMUS IX EXTREME

>>62118784
it's a decent pc with 8, but yes, assuming you have a 1080p 60Hz monitor it will be great and run everything.

Aite lads
I've narrowed it down, i've got two builds lined up, both are identical in price, which one should i get?

Main uses are going to be 1440p gaming, at 144hz

Build 1:
MSI x370
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz 2x8Gb
Ryzen 1600x
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC
Noctua NH-L9x65

Build 2:
MSI Z270-A Pro
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz 2x8Gb
Intel Core i7-7700K
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC
Noctua NH-L9x65

>>62119047
You should get an Intel 6 core when they come out soonish

>>62118896
About to pull the trigger, just another question, how can I tell how many usb ports are on this ??

why are refubished GPUs so hard to find

why isnt there a 1080ti open box or something for half the price

do manufactures make deals with nvidia to make sure to cuck the purchaser at all times?

is it like the jewish car industry where they throw away last years designs rather than sell them for much cheaper and instead keep peddling the next years models at full price again

>>62118550
So, any advice, should I buy used high end pc, or build my own?

>>62119134
look at the case and the motherboard. Looks like 5 type-A and 1 type-C on the motherboard, and 2 on the front of the case.

>No stores have Vega 56 or have any news of getting them in stock

Im done. Fucking fell for the Freesync meme and now AMD shits the bed.

>one retailer sticks out like a sore thumb with a siginificant lower price on a 1070 card compared to literally ALL competitors
>they are the only ones that doesn't have the card in stock yet

it's supiciously low, even though the retailer is huge and not shady.

it says it's not in stock before mid september on their site, could they pull a "Hurr it was a pricing error" and cancel my order legally, if I paid and for the order?

>someone posted that a cfg70 24' was $130 on amazon
>snagged one for $140 including tax
>arrived today
>0 dead pixels and looks superior than my ips thanks to 125% sRGB scale
the monitor is fucking gorgeous. the only problem is the bezel is cracked in the lower left corner but i genuinely don't care when i just got a $250 monitor for $130.
i will never shit on VA TVs again because it looks better than my IPS.
>>62119156
>why isnt there a 1080ti open box or something for half the price
>half the price
at best if you're patient and autistic enough to scope out amazon there's bound to be a used 1080TI for <$630 but it's not guaranteed everyday.
you should check out /buildapcsales/ for by the minute low cost components.

>>62119317
Thank you sir, pulling the trigger on this build.
>>62118728
So I just download Windows 10 usb english and install that without ever actually activating?

>>62119692
yeah. download this https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 , make an usb, and install on your new pc.
if the watermark annoys you, you can buy a key, or activate with "microsoft toolkit" or another one of those activators (which is piracy, to be clear).

>>62119748
Keep in mind that if you never activate it, the only features locked off are the personalization options like theme color and such.

>>62116527
My server doesn't have any sound inputs whatsoever, what's a good sound card to buy?

I don't have a high budget.

>>62119820
The new Sound BlasterX AE-5 is great, but it's about $150.
Sound Blaster cards are generally good.

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>building budget PC
>buy a R3 1200 instead of a R5 1600 to save some money

How badly did I fuck up boys

>>62119882
They use the same socket motherboard. You can always upgrade to the 1600 later on down the line.

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do i get a 1080 now or wait™ for volta?

>>62118850
make money hah, Polaris is at $2 a day or less, 1080ti makes about tree fiddy.

$60-100 a month fopr 720 full throttle hours on your hardware, fuck that.

>>62119820
a $5 usb one from aliexpress

>>62119967
forgot to clarify, if I wait i'll find a used 750ti or something off of ebay

>>62116527
How to clean pc?
Just open it up and blast air?
Or do i need to take the parts out and shit?

>>62120018
maybe need to remove graphics card but yeah. make sure you keep fans blades from moving while you blast air at them and wear an ESD wrist strap that you clip to the metal on the case

Is the X370 Gaming 5 mobo in anyway considered bad?

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Built my first computer. Running good as far as I can tell. How do I (stress) test it? What programs should I use and what should I look for? Thanks!

>>62120353
programs you actually plan on using

>>62118015
I need to be able to play blu rays tho, also isn't the pi slow as fuck?

>>62118114
thought about getting one of those external pico psu things but I might be over the limit already in terms of power draw. I had that silverstone after swapping if for the 600w corsair sfx unit so I can just use that one.
Thanks for the build, I'll think about getting a full size cpu then. These SOCs might be better suited to just pure NAS usage.

>>62120353
memtest,cpu-z, benchmarks

>>62120514
Thanks,

What about an SSD and HDD test? I imagine a GPU test would just be a game's benchmark?

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>>62117655
THE 1070 IS BETTER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>62118306
>>62118166
Why did you buy this thing in 2017 and are now posting on every single thread on /g/, do you just want to be known as the retard that bought bulldozer in 2017

>>62120662
There are graphical benchmarks for GPUs
I don't know about SDDs and HDDs I just use CrystalDiskInfo

>>62117655
>i bought that monitor two weeks ago
am i an faggot now?

Pro, LTSB or Enterprise?

>>62120807
it depends. i chose ltsb.

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>>62116848
>>62116912
>>62117138

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f8VBKZ
(Posting again) Trying to keep the budget around $900, I'll go up to $1k if it will make any major improvements. I don't care about aesthetics so I'll probably keep the cheap shitty case.

I'm building a desktop with a z270 mobo and a spec 04 case, how or where do I install standoffs? Thanks in advance

>>62121020
Aesthetics isn't the reason to not cheap out on a case you moron. For $20 more you can get the Focus G which is infinitely better.

>>62121020
get a better case and a 250Gb SSD. 128 is tiny.
other than that it looks good.

>>62121027
aren't they already in? otherwise line up the mobo (using the back i/o as a reference) and see which holes in the case match.

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Faggots in this thread misuse the word budget so much. They think that budget means to save money, when it doesn't.

Reposting from old bread

Has anyone bought a chip from siliconlottery?
Is it worth the extra cash or should i just buy a cpu off amazon and delid myself and tske my chances?

>>62121225
Fitting purchases into a budget normally necessitates cost-effectiveness.
It's in the vernacular so you may as well get over it.
Sperg.

>>62121271
SiliconLottery is legit
Delidding is easy enough if you have the tool

If you think you're too retarded to delid you can send them your CPU and they will delid it. They usually jew you for the 5 GHz+ "golden chips" listed on their site.

>>62120296
No. It's fine.
It's just the cheaper Gigabyte X370 boards that are shit.

>>62121308
>>62121308
Im fine with delidding myself, but the thermal compound/liquid metal along with the kit would run me around the same as their delid service. I was looking at their pre-delidded chips. Not sure if its worth the extra money

>>62121376
What CPU are you trying to delid?

>>62121390
Nothing just yet, but a 8700k when they drop assuming theyve got their shitty toothpaste on the chips again

>>62121020
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ttKjc
Revised based on recommendation

>>62121413
You can just use good TIM when you delid. Liquid metal is only a couple degrees difference.

>>62121459
Looking good.

>>62121088
Might be the case, thanks anon. Will report if mobo fries

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Anything wrong?
The monitor will be an ASUS VC239H

How's this look for a first budget build? I'm trying to keep it under $550.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZRg6X

>>62116527
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
I FOLLOWED THAT ADVICE AND BURNED THE FUCK OUT OF MY FINGERS

>>62121798
Don't buy the ssd and use the money for a better GPU. Unless you really don't need graphic performances.

I need a new 3TB HDD, which one should I consider ?
Toshiba P300, Toshiba DT01ACA300, Toshiba E300, Seagate BarraCuda or WD blue ?

Is there a more reliable brand or not ?

>>62121817
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLyqvV

What the fuck is wrong with that idiot in the pic op?

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I'm
>>62118472
What can i do if its fucked?

>>62122276
I agree with this build

Not sure about how well the case is though.

>>62122371
maybe your ram or slot is fried? try removing all but one stick and see if it posts. Check all slots.

>>62122376
I've seen enough positive reviews on the case to give it the benefit of the doubt. I'd have gone for a Corsair Carbide series case though.

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QHD or Ultrawide?

>>62122464
only get ultrawide if you plan on getting 30+ monitor for an actual immersive experience.

QHD is being the new standard over FHD. I like QHD over ultrawide personally

when looking for a mobo, if the RAM frequency compatibility have a (OC) written, what does it actually means ?

>>62122492
AMD considers any ram frequency above 2667 mhx as an overclock, regardless of whether it actually is an overclock.

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>>62122385
I will do, what do i do if the ram aint makin a difference? Will my pc even run without a graphics card? my bar face btw

>>62122530
>will it run without graphics card
depends on what your cpu is

I watched this earlier today. Might be helpful for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS96rgWFvV0

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>first time build
>looking to be decently future proofed

mostly gonna be gaming at 144hz 1080p and maybe some mining just for fun.

is there any reason they don't mention the i7 7700k in the OP? am i gonna regret getting it?

any recommendations before i take the plunge?

>>62122524
So if I take a mobo that says 2666MHz or more with the (OC) and actually take a 2666MHZ ram I shouldn't bother and it will works properly ?

>>62122561
Get EVGA G2 or G3 or a Seasonic PSU over corsair. It will last you longer.

You can get windows 10 for free just won't be able to customize the background and themes.

Get an ssd even a 128GB for the OS for better boot times.

Not sure about the case but Define R5, and S340 are really good cases at that price range.

I don't know if you will hit 5 GHz with an air cooler if you are aiming for that.

Not sure about the monitor.

Lastly if the build is not urgent, you may want to wait for 8700K which may be a better option for future proofing depending on the benchmarks.

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Hi /g/

Would this be a good enough build to last me 3/4 years.

I'll mostly be using it to play games like PUBG & Overwatch

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Zt7xY

>>62122561
The reason they don't mention it is because it runs extremely hot. The 1600 and 1700 are much better, and b350 is cheaper than z270 anyways.

Would Freesync make a UHD display worth it?

Picking a display is a shocking amount of work.

>>62122822
Do you have an AMD video card? Can your video card power QHD at 144 Hz?

>>62122798
Hello cute lain anon

>PUBG
terribly optimized from what I heard.

You probably will want to play other games in the future but if you manage to hit a high ranged AAA title in 2 years you may not be able to run it that well on low settings. If you don't care about going on high detail settings then I think It could last you for 3 years.

I would go for G2 or G3 for PSU.
I am not sure how well the case is.

esports like overwatch will run this easily.

>>62122798
>I'll mostly be using it to play games like PUBG & Overwatch
>liking shit

>>62119047
For 144hz I would go 7700K. The 1600x won't cut it. Covfefe lake desktop chips are not far away though..

>>62120780
yes looks fucking stupid
hope you at least painted the bezel

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>get 16 gigs they said

>>62123358
Some games do require 8GB of ram. plus its future proofing

>>62121525
No it's more than that, especially directly on the die it's much more effective than on the IHS and cooler.

This is with my [email protected] delidded with NH-1 vs. liquid metal:
NH-1: 86 88 84 89
TG Condoctonaut: 70 68 69 70

That's with NH-1 on the coolers as well in both cases

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>>62116527
Help me guys, first build here.
**I do not have a monitor listed (reusing)
**I do not have a case listed (not sure what to pick)
>Budget 1k USD
>PS, AE, Blender, Matlab, AutoCAD, Unity.
>I prefer lowest price, best specs ofc.
My monitor resolution: 1280 x 1024
My monitor refresh rate: 60Hz

>>62123358
>PUBG
Wow I am surprised an unoptimized shitshow running on an engine not meant for it scope is running like shit.

>>62123381
future proof meme

>>62123473
buzz off buddy

:3

@62123485
dont reply to me

>>62123489
>;3

future proofing is a scam
there is literally no reason to get a 1080 ti
>b-but my 4k!!
meme scam. if you tell me you see the difference between 4k and 1440p on the same dimensions, you are under jewish magic

>>62123647
what about 144Hz 1440p

>>62123647
Next you are going to tell me our eyes can't see above 30 fps.

>>62116652
>Being this ass blasted...

>>62117405
>>62117427
>>62117448
Sort of. As of v2.0.1.0, NiceHash doesn't appear to support AMD cards anymore.

I think this is largely due to them being hard to find, but you can draw your own conclusions.

FWIW - I mine with 1080ti's. Getting slightly cost / benefit ratios than a RX580.

>>62123688
beta software

the legacy 1.0 branch is still being updated and supports it

Man this is sexy. I'm tempted but my meh Dell E2216H is good enough

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>>62123722
shit bird

>>62123740
Asus has notoriously bad QC. No idea if they fixed it.

>>62123754
I just dig silver/white and logical increments said it was kosher

>>62123760
Seems like a finger print magnet but yeah it is slick

Is it a good idea to get a 760 for ~$50 while I save cash for a 1060/1070? I'll mostly be playing GTAV and emulating stuff. Processor is a Ryzen 1600 with 16GB RAM. Also, for a pure gaming build, is 16GB a bit overkill?

>>62123715
Correct, and you can run both on the same machine, so dual mining on AMD and NVidia is a thing now.

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>>62122551
Thank you. Will try when not drink

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>>62123789
neat

>>62123781
Sure why not.
16 GB is not overkill.

>>62123798
>Thank you. Will try when not drink
kek good luck anon

What's a good soundcard to get if you're experiencing noise on the microphone input caused by video cards? Tried EMI shielding my Xonar DX to no avail. Looking at external solutions but not sure if its what I'm looking for.

>>62123869
wtf I think I hate Sound Cards now.

what's the point of one if it has noise?

>>62122561
>future proofed

What monitor /pcbg/ would recommend?
I want new monitor it will be used for reading and programming mainly. I don't gayme much.
Something to please my eyes?
Not sure if important but I'm on Linux

>>62123929
Linux doesn't please eyes

>>62123929
Get a Dell Ultrasharp, they're sleek as fuck and look great.

>>62123358
The danganronpa v3 demo on steam commits like 6~7GB on launch, if it doesn't get it: instant crash and takes steam with it.

So you either get 16GB, or have a pagefile raping your SSD when it doesn't need to.

>>62123951
I read lot's of good reviews about how beautiful colours are on asus monitors. Should I really buy dell over asus?

>>62123984
Oh there's nothing wrong with buying asus if it's got the features you want, I just like Ultrasharps if I've got the money to spend.

>>62123981
not worth it for a few games the extra ram at current prices

>>62123995
Going to +1 the Dell UltraSharp. I have a trio of U2415's and I love them.

RAM/SSD prices dropping when

>>62123981
>>62124027
RoTR commits like 14 GB on launch. If you have chrome on the background, it will hard crash to desktop within a few minutes of playing the game.

>>62124087
it does that if you run textures at higher settings only

>>62119047
Build 2 but if you can wait a bit the new 8700k will be a better fit

>>62124087
Should have gone 64GB. Must be amateur hour.

>>62124106
Yeah. It is on ultra.

>>62124111
Got 32 GB now.

>>62124076
This model looks nice.
Does it rotate 180°?

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What does a constant high frequency beep code mean?

My computer was working fine yesterday and for the last two years, now it's stuck in a bootloop and will not post or reach the bios screen.

Are there any good IPS 1440p 144Hz monitors yet? (coming from 1440p Ultrasharp)

>>62124174
Each motherboard has their own beep codes. Check your manual.

>>62124180
Goy-sync or none Goy-sync?
If Goy-sync
XB271HU
PG279Q
S2716DG
These models are considered the high end ones. And their none Goy-sync counterparts.

>>62124203
Goysync pls I am fully cucked by novidya

That Dell got me excited until I saw it was TN. How is the panel on the Asus?

>>62117151
why not take a picture of his face?

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>>62124191
>One single short beep will be heard if no problem is detected at system startup.

Fuck you gigabyte

>>62124235
Panel is good. QC not so.
If you get a good one (no/little BLB, no dead pixel) then it is probably the best 1440p 144hz Goy-sync monitor you can buy. The acer one isn't bad either and is normally cheaper than the ASUS one but people were shitting on it recently cause it looks gamery. That aside, it is great as well. I threw in the TN panel because some people don't need IPS and want to save money.

All 3 monitors have great reviews.

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Opinions on my first build? Also is ryzen a good choice for streaming and videos editing in your guys opinion?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nightlyskill/saved/rRznQ7

>>62124271
Why X370?
The rest looks fine.

>>62124290
I hear its better for oc and such than b350's

>>62124312
Where did you hear it from? I guarantee you it is from anecdotal evidence where the poster is trying to justify his more expensive purchase cause he isn't making use of the extra features anyway. Better OC is down to silicon than motherboard. If you have shit luck, your X370 isn't going to suddenly going to alter the silicon of the chip and make it OC "better", although better quality voltage might make the OC more stable so theres that.

>>62124363
I was looking to get an X370 over B350 too. Doesn't X370 offer better VRM temps?

>>62124429
Yes. X370 often have higher quality VRM. Not to say B350 models don't have high quality VRMs but high quality VRM isn't the magic cure to a good OC. Good VRM will let you push that extra bit out of your CPU and help keep it stable. But a good VRM won't turn a bad lottery CPU into a good one.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wJN6wV
I found 1050 TI SSC for $129 also, but what can I improve without fucking my budget? I really only have $600 total.

>>62124495
Yeah but isn't it bad to have your mobo run on high temps? Won't that damage it in the long term especially for an overclocked eight core ryzen cpu?

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If I win I'll hold a giveaway or something.

>>62124518
No. Because your CPU won't be running 100% all the time. Your CPU is smart enough to downclock when you are not using it. I can count the number of times I had my CPU running at 100% for prolonged duration with my 2 hands this year.

>>62124543
STICK A TITAN ON IT YOU IDIOT

>>62124271
I would add a 1TB HDD to the build. The SSD is nice but it's not enough store things that don't need fast read/write speeds, such as photos, easy to run games/programs and such. Other than that, it looks good!

>>62124553
Why?

I need some opinions. So if I want to replace my GTX 960, should I get a 1060 3gb for $250?

>>62124517

Get the Seasonic M12ii 520w PSU instead, it is around the same price in Newegg right now and you get a $15 MiR (so it is effectively $40). Depending on who you ask you might want a 2x4GB dual channel kit over a single 8GB stick as well

>>62124548
So you think it will be safe to get a B350? Which one would you recommend?

>>62124706
Get a high end B350.
Look up the reviews.

>>62123358
Currently I'm playing Black Desert and it's eating up 11gb.

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Which table do I buy for a computer desk? Pretty much sold on the solider leg config, but not sure if I should go with white or black. I worry black makes everything look too retarded.

>>62124111
Wake me up when Ryzen supports 32gb 3200mhz

>>62124845
>Currently I'm playing Black Desert and it's eating up 11gb.
What's your video card, Anon?

>>62124872
980.

>>62124901
What are your texture and graphics settings in Black Desert, Anon?

>>62124906
On high. Low or high didn't really seem to make a difference in performance so I just cranked it up. Though I have old [email protected] (been running like that for 5 years) and it's jumping between 80-100% depending what's happening. In few weeks when I have all my parts together I'll upgrade to a beefier system.

>>62124984
Well, my thought was the game may be trying to load in more texture than you have VRAM. I dunno, though.

>>62124862
The white one is what everyone gets

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4DBhQV

Any parts I should change?

This PC is mostly for Overwatch

>>62125104
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Q847h
You can swap the 1060 6 GB for a 1050 Ti.

>>62125056
>Go to buy
>Realize something
>Recheck
>"Wheat"
And order cancelled! Because wheat just means it looks dirty as hell. Well there goes the potential savings of that coupon deal.

Pls r8 and h8

This build will primarily be used for video editing. I play some vidya from time to time.

>AMD RYZEN 7 1700
>BIOSTAR X370GT5-NF AM4 AMD X370
>Team Elite Plus 16GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133
>Rosewill PHOTON Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified Power Supply
>MSI Radeon RX 580

Is there anything I'm fucking up?

>>62124191
turns out the beep code is wrong and it's a memory issue. Weird as the memory sticks were working fine for all this time.

2*kingston, work fine single and double
2*gskill, work fin single and doube
2*gskill + 2*kingston = no go

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What you guys think. Mostly for 1440p 144hz game shit and some image editing maybe. Should I go for the 1700 instead? Maybe a different cooler?

>>62125372
Switch Biostar to pretty much anything B350. Biostar is cheap chink shit.
Get 3200mhz ram that's on motherboard's QVL, Ryzen loves fast memory because of their magical CPU glue. If you don't want to bother looking, get G.Skill Flare X. It's expensive even by today's ridiculously high prices.
No need for 850w PSU, 650w will do fine and go EVGA or Seasonic.

>>62125449
>Mixing ram kit
Never ever do this. Ever.

>>62125449
I love Beep Codes

>>62125468
what about splitting one ram kit to two computers

>>62125468
But it was working for over a year
>>62125470
yeah i found on the gigabyte website that the beep code meant a psu failure. that is complete bullshit as i turned on the psu and tested the volatges at the pins with a multimeter and it all seemed to be good.

>>62125452
Go 1700. It's not as expensive and performs the exact same. Only difference is how they come out of the box.

AIOs are expensive (~50% where I live) and have more chances for failure (not that they fail often, my 5 years old H100i works fine) but they do win points in aesthetics. Consider air cooling like NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 3. In the smallest chances of anything failing air cooling still has massive heatsink to work as passive cooling while waiting for new fans. AIOs you're fucked if anything goes wrong.

>>62125523
those air coolers are so bulky to work with

>>62125513
>But it was working for over a year
And then it randomly stops working. Mixing ram kit introduces instability into your system. Never do it.

>>62125490
That is fine

>>62125537
They really are and installing them is more annoying than AIO. Performance wise they're about the same.

>>62125541
>Mixing ram kit introduces instability into your system. Never do it.

Nah it's not this. my drr3_slot_4 is fucked.

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how easy/hard is it to fix broken mobo pins?

>>62125705
so if its bent it's hard.

>>62125741
fuck me. AMD was right with pins on cpu.

>>62125705
F

>>62124271
>Paying for Windows

>>62125759
>AMD was right with pins on cpu
No. No they fucking weren't. Pins suck universally. Having them on the board means the board gets fucked up. Having them on the CPU means the CPU gets fucked up. CPU is far more expensive.

>>62125821
CPU can be repaired, motherboard is trashed

>>62125833
I sent a LGA 2011 board with bent pins back to Asus, they replaced the socket for $50.

>>62125833
Motherboards are generally cheaper than CPUs

>>62125833
There still has to be a better way to do things than pins.

>>62125845
good

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Replace broken mobo for $60 (i5 4670k + 16gb ddr3) or buy new ryzen mobo + cpu + ram for $750

>>62125971
replace mobo and keep your money

>>62125971
throw caution to the wind and yolo

>>62125986
Are asrock z87 boards any good?

So when is vega 56 coming out tonight?

>>62126241
The 1070 has been in the market for a year already anon. Keep up.

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>>62117151
does that shop still exist? They used to have one in Santa Clara, CA and I used to shop there all the time. One day they just closed up and I never found out why.

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>>62120780
You always were so nothing changed

>>62126331
Yes. Only shop now in California is in Tustin. From what I heard was that it cost too much money to have the shop in Silicon Valley. At least there is Fry's

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Best x370 Mobo? Gigabyte or MSI? I've got a MSI pc mate with a G4560 and wanted to change to another CPU but the 7700k is meh and the incoming memelake I3 won't support the 1151 slot.

I have a 500GB Sandisk X300 drive from when my brother's Macbook died due to drive issues or whatever. While it seems fine while I was using it as an external drive, I don't know if it would be safe to throw into my computer.

Also, can anyone recommend a quiet and reliable mass storage HDD?

>>62126458
Gigabyte Gaming K3 for cheapest external BCLK board

Otherwise Gaming K5 or Crosshair 6 orASrock Taichi/Pro Gaming

The ASrock boards have the most overbuilt VRM set ups, but slowest BIOs updates usually.

Also buy B-die if you want to get the most out of Ryzen.

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ARE YOU BOYS READY TO WAKE UP AT 6AM PST TO TRY AND BUY VEGA 56 FOR $399?

6 AM is when Vega 64 launched and sold out within 20 minutes right?

>>62126678
you mean stay up, super hype. I'm only like 12 levels of WOKE

>>62126691
I could stay up, but then my sleep schedule would be fucked, maybe it's worth it though, but I worked all day and am fairly tired

>>62126703
you do you and get your rest anon, I believe in you

>>62126710
But I don't want to miss out on Vega, wish they had like an insider program or some shit where I could pre-order a card.

>>62126678
>>62126691
>>62126703
>Buying Vega

>>62126922
How is Vega 56 bad? You OC the memory and you're on the heels of the 1080 with an undervolt to fix it's clock

It'll take me 3-4 months to save for my 1600 build, should I wait for the next gen CPUs at that point?

>>62126933
*In certain specific benchmarks only

>>62126933
>Just do all this bullshit to make your brand new card slightly worse than last gens competitor card goyim

JUST

>>62126946
in DX12/Vulkan mostly which is the future

>>62126951
It's still faster than a 1070 even without the tweaks and with it's current shit drivers.

Also can't buy nvidia because they hate freedom

>>62126966
>in DX12/Vulkan mostly which is the future
By the time it is "the future", Volta will blow the fuck out of whatever the shit results Vega56 produces.

>>62126966
It is slightly faster than the 1070 on specific games while being universally
1. louder
2. hotter
3. more expensive
4. more TDP

Any hardware difference between the SC2 and STRIX 1080ti?

leaning towards EVGA due to warranty.

How does a GTX 980 compare to a GTX 1060 on 1080p?

>>62127006
Only difference between variants of 1080ti is their temps, noise and extra features.

The STRIX model is apparently the best one, most cool while making the less amount of noise. EVGA comes in 2nd.

>>62126978
I doubt nvidia will even bother releasing volta for consumers, 0 reason to do so, like what intel has been doing for years until Ryzen.

Nvidia will likely skip straight to scaling multi-die GPUs like AMD is doing for NAVI

>>62126984
I'm going to slap an AIO on it, the reference PCB is solid.

don't care about power consumption

If we ever get to mod the bios and get 1.3V on it for it's HBM2 overclocking it'll surpass even the 1080 in the future at high clock speeds. like 1700mhz core.

>>62127006
Just buy the cheapest card with a decent PCB, unless you want a fat air cooler for less noise

>>62127010
The 1060 is about 10~15% behind 980 in certain games. 5~10% behind in others. Close but just slightly worse.

>>62127020
>I am going to spend more money on it to make it run slightly faster
Just buy a 1080 you moron. Jumping through hoops and circles just to suck AMD dick.
Is this the DELID this of Vega?

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>>62127006
>>62127020
I'm slapping a CLC on it, but these stupid heatsinks may stop me.

>>62127039
I can resuse the AIO in the future so it's a non issue, I would do the same to any high end GPU I buy.

Nvidia are horribly anti-consumer and I can't support them.

Also I have a free-sync monitor and would rather mess with Vega than Pascal which is boring to OC.

>>62127048
Then buy a reference card if you can get one cheap, EVGA's hybrid kit still works on them without much issue I think. May need a copper shim to fill the space though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0nQdCRE9Q&t=626s

>>62127020
Volta is coming but it was pushed back because Vega a shit and it was too expensive for consumers and Mr. Leatherjacket told people to get Pascal because it's the king so there's nothing new coming this year.

>>62127062
>Nvidia are horribly anti-consumer and I can't support them.
Yes but you are okay with AMD jacking up the prices skyhigh, fucking over consumers, bundling bullshit with their "packages", Raja continual incompetence and lies, delays after delays. Because that is "pro-consumer".

Fucking idiot playing fanboy between two multi-million dollar companies that would both happily fuck you over for a buck.

You buy the superior product. Being invested in a company is fucking stupid. You are no different from the morons who insist on buying i5 and i7 when the Ryzen is available.

>>62127078
But why would they even bother with Volta for desktop when they make more money just selling the professional/server stuff? The 1080ti is still the fastest thing around for consumers.

>>62127089
I'm pretty sure AMD is not jacking up the prices, we've seen the evidence that it's distributors charging more to retails for the cards forcing them to raise the prices.

In addition GPU prices have been screwed up for months.

How is Raja doing poorly exactly? Polaris was a solid mid range architecture, and Vega is pretty much the best Radeon Tech could do since all the money was going to Ryzen which has been a major success.


Vega 56 is the superior product, it's faster than the 1070 at $399, and 1070s aren't even MSRP atm.

>>62127105
>He thinks the Vega will be $399
Sure. I am sure the retailers are going to price it at 399 after seeing the prices of the Vega64.

Bottomline is you are a cocksucker of the highest order who based his purchases on companies instead of the products itself.

It is people like you (regardless of the company they support which includes Nvidia and Intel) that ruin this thread with their biases.

>>62127010
Basically the same, but the 1060 wins in some newer dx12 titles.
>t. gtx 980 owner

>>62127114
AMD should just do what Nvidia does and sell the cards themselves off their own website for msrp.

>>62127114
Vega 56 will have a very limited supply of cards that will launch at $399

If not then obviously I won't buy it and will wait to see it's AIB models

I would happily buy nvidia's products if they weren't a complete enemy of free software and so anti-consumer with things like gameworks.

I was also telling the other anon what 1080ti to buy and why, my personal bias doesn't affect my ability to help others choose parts.

>>62127135
There is a reason why AMD used SEP instead of the term MSRP. They just play the position of underdog well so suckers will buy Vega.

>>62127105
And why would they ignore a market who are ready to buy their products? Not doing so would be idiotic no matter if it ends up only being a small slice of their income. 1080 Ti is the fastest but we haven't reached 4k 144hz or affordable 1440p 144hz yet. Compared to Intel at least Nvidia has been advancing their products without someone forcing them into it with stuff like Ryzen.

>>62127139
>my personal bias doesn't affect my ability to help others choose parts.
>He says while buying Vega the inferior product
Actions speaks louder than words. I am sure just weeks ago you made a post telling someone to buy Ryzen over an i5 cause it was the superior product. Disgusting.

>>62126943
>wait
i wouldn't desu

>>62127010
About the same. 980 Ti is close to 1070.

>>62127142
Vega 56 is a perfectly good card at $399, especially if you want free-sync, can't buy a 1070 for it's MSRP yet can you?

Vega 64 however is stupid and no one should buy it, and no one should buy the Radeon Packs. Just as bad as nvidia charging $100 more for reference cards.

>>62127146
There are $399 1440p 144hz IPS displays, they're free-sync though

I mean they'll probably release something from Volta, maybe only high end high margin stuff, and just discount Pascal to get rid of it. Who knows what will happen since AMD dropped the ball again.


>>62127147
See above.

How the fuck is an i5 better at all compared to ryzen? Ryzen wins in every price bracket now. Like you have nothing there, 4c/4t vs 6c/12t is no competition.

Oh what like 10-20 more fps at most in some games? Not worth it when you have to change your motherboard every year if you want to upgrade.

>>62126943
They won't be out by then most likely, but do you really need an R5 1600?

>>62127163
SEP vs MSRP. Notice not once did AMD use the words MSRP. They instead used SEP. That is on purpose which is my point.

>>62126943
1600 was overkill for my uses desu, I ended up giving the build to my nephew who's getting into streaming and stuff. Just buy the best you can when you get your money don't try to future proof

>>62127163
I am not saying i5 is good you imbecile. I am saying you are a hypocrite for buying Vega. Maybe the i5 isn't as good now but down the line Intel might introduce a competitive or superior product and then what tune will you sing?

I absolutely will not listen to the words of an AMD fanboy. Period.

>>62127175
Okay? But Vega 64 was avalible at it's SEP/MSRP whatever for 20 minutes at 6AM on it's launch day, very likely Vega 56 will be $399 for the same period of time and that's what I'm aiming for, if the price is any higher it's not worth buying.

>>62127185
>Intel might introduce a competitive or superior product and then what tune will you sing?
VERY VERY doubtful until they have a CCX like design for cost saving unless they're going to take huge losses, look at X299 is a fucking joke compared to TR

Intel has the better product in the G4560 if you budget is 100% incapable of Ryzen 3, but I'm not sure they're bothering to restock the G4560.

Intel also has the better product in the 7700K if you 100% absolutely need the best single threaded performance you can possibly get for like 240hz gaming, but that's about it.

Intel only wins at the extremes at the moment.

The 1080 and 1080ti are the best cards at their MSRP, and Vega 56 is obviously the best card at $399. It's as simple as that.

>>62127185
>I am not saying i5 is good you imbecile
>>62127147
>I am sure just weeks ago you made a post telling someone to buy Ryzen over an i5 cause it was the superior product.

You had i5 and R5 backwards then.

>>62127212
>Vega 56 is obviously the best card at $399
If you manage to get it at MSRP or if it even launches at $399. Even disregarding that, it is the blower design which is notoriously shit so you are going to buy an AIO which already makes it more expensive.

Eh whatever. I can't be assed to argue with an AMD fanboy dead set to buy an inferior product. Keep sucking Raja's poo juice.

>>62127240
Already said I would watercool a 1080 if I were buying one, that's not a factor for me. I also have CPU coolers I could force fit onto it for better cooling without spending any extra money. Or most likely I'll put my 240mm CPU cooler onto the GPU, as I'm using an R7 1700 and it was fine with a $25 cooler

What 4k monitor should i get? I would prefer having 2 24" monitors, but i dont know if 4k would pay off on a 24" monitors, any advice?

>>62127273
Gaming on 4k monitors is shit. Don't fall for it. Consuming media on 4k is GOAT (provided the media is also 4k) tho.

>>62127285
but 1440p 144hz is expensive as fuck

>>62127303
That is cause it is the best resolution and freq to game at at the moment.

>>62122571
The ram will likely work anyway. Tthe OC thing is just so AMD can specify where their warranty ends.

>>62127306
what kind of fps drop can i expect when i go for 1440p? running opensuse with an 480x

>>62127303
Pixio is going to be restocking it's $399 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display sometime soon

>>62127322
What games is more important

>>62127322
480 can do 60fps at 1440p on high settings in the average game,

Or why don't you just turn on VSR to test it on whatever monitor you have?

>>62127322
1440p is almost double from 1080p so horse power requirements to get over 60hz increase dramatically.

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>build pc with corsair psu
>break after 1 year
>buy a cougar psu, work well for a years then started buzzing and the fan is rattling, stopping me from sleeping
Fuck psu

>>62127273
4K is stupid at 24" less stupid at 27"

I think I'd prefer 4k 60hz to 144hz actually, but I've yet to acquire a 4k display.

You can also get 4k at 28" for under $300 if you can live with TN, should probably go IPS in any case though

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rk98TW/aoc-monitor-u2879vf

>>62127344
You're only suposed to buy seasonic,super flow, or top end EVGA PSUs though.

>>62122561
>future proof
>on a dead platform
I'd get a Ryzen 5 1600. And an SSD.

>>62127334
Dota, csgo, emulator games that stuff, but ill do what >>62127342 said, thanks though

>>62122798
That should be fine, although with a 144Hz monitor I'd get a 1070. Consider getting a bigger SSD, and maybe just 1x8Gb of ram if you want to upgrade to 16 later.

>>62127357
I only want something silent that won't break a year at this point

>>62127325
size?

Should I try to get a used 970 instead of a 1050 Ti? I should be able to get both for the same price. For 1080p60 with a R3 1200.
The downsides would be it being a used card, power consumption, noise, and >3.5Gb. Not sure if it's worth getting used for the performance increase.

>>62123869
You want something external yes.

>>62124085
Maybe in a year, maybe never.

>>62127424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZR4_gWG4u8

27" as it should be at 1440p

>>62127412
Then you want a large PSU that doesn't have to turn it's fan on until it's under heavy load, or go fanless

Otherwise just stick to those brands and look up reviews.

>>62124271
Yes, Ryzen is a good choice for streaming and editing, better than what Intel has to offer at the moment.
Don't pay for Windows. I'm assuming you already have what you need for HDDs?
That looks like a good build. I wouldn't bother with X370 just for "better OC", the chips don't go that high anyway. Go for a nice B350. Only get an X370 if you need SLI or the extra lanes or something.

>>62124517
Get faster RAM, Ryzen loves fast RAM. 3200 is ideal, 3000 is good, 2800 is fine. I'd try to get at the very least 2666 if the faster speeds are really more expensive, but if there's not a big difference it's worth going faster.

Corsair CX power supplies aren't good. Get something better.

>>62127453
970, for sure. I hate buying used though desu, just make sure your seller is reputable and you should be fine.

There's a define performance increase (probably anywhere from 15-25 fps) and if you can get it at the same price as the 1050TI, it's a no brainer.

>>62124613
No. At least a 1070. The 1060 3Gb isn't a good card, and it's certainly not a good upgrade.

>>62127325
>tfw no nvidia card freesync support
only thing making me hold off. I'm still debating whether G-Sync is a worthwhile investment or not. I never really notice frame tears anyways...

Can ssd and hdd buzz or rattle?

>>62125195
this is a good build. I'd go with a 240Gb SSD at least myself, but this is better than no SSD.

>>62124517
You need dual channel RAM

You can get a cheaper ASrock board, just make sure it's a "6" + 3 VRM with heatsinks

get a seasonic S12II PSU most likely, avoid low end shit.

>>62127521
G-sync is never worth it, Free-sync is a nice feature to grab since it doesn't usually add to the price.

>>62125195
I would say fuck GPUs until prices stabilize, likely invest that money into your CPU/RAM/SSD since that will last longer, you also might have the budgets for Samsung B-die if you really want the most out of Ryzen, you'd want a Gaming K3 which is $50 more and B-die is G.skill's 3200mhz CL 14 kits

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dYhFVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dYhFVY/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($123.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($102.87 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 560 2GB Red Dragon OC V3 Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - Blade Master 76.8 CFM 120mm Fan
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($276.09 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1263.86

>>62127594
>>62125195
Also that monitor is cheaper and has free-sync as a bonus, get it anyways

>>62127594
Considering Vega a shit, NVidia cards are the only real way to go for 1440p and above. Freesync is pretty much worthless unless nvidia decides to support it for some reason

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Is $350 a good price for a new XFX RX 580 8GB?

>>62127612
>Freesync is pretty much worthless
How? Why? What?

Vega 56 is fine at $399 and only at that price, at some point it'll be MSRP with nice AIB cards, and can push 1080p 144hz and even 1440p 144hz with some tuned settings.

not like a 1060 can really max 1080 144hz anyways.

>>62127653
Why would that be a good price? shit used to be like $200

>>62127656
Freesync in it's current edition is pretty useless. Poor implementation, no standard, ghosting issues, flickering issues. That is why AMD is making Freesync 2.0. A good Freesync monitor will cost 100 dollars less than its Gsync counterpart.

>>62127696
That's why you look at reviews for monitors first, I have the AOC monitor in question, and it's perfectly fine.

>>62127729
And how much is the AOC Gsync version of your monitor?

>>62127656
until amd puts out a card that rivals the 1080TI/Volta eventually in max settings gaming, theres no reason to really go with Vega, hench Freesync being useless in that situation.

>>62127748
*no reason if you want to play everything at the highest potential

didnt mean to leave that out

>>62127738
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/63qR23
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/63qR23/by_merchant/

Monitor: AOC - G2460PG 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($379.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($205.69 @ Amazon)
Total: $585.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 04:56 EDT-0400

>>62127748
You still get the benefit of free-sync which can result in a smoother frame rate than a 1070 can deliver on the same monitor.

You don't have to play everything completely maxxed out, that's silly, you buy what's best for the money and tune your settings, namely AA and shadows to really raise the frame rate of a game.

>>62127764
Newegg has it at 350. Which is roughly around my ball park of 100 dollars difference.

>>62127517
>I hate buying used though
same, I never did it and I'm afraid something will fuck up.

>>62127524
hdd yes, ssd no

>>62127453
Probably save your money and just live with a $100 GPU like an RX 560