Tor Operators have banded together to choke Daily Stormer traffic

>>62116201
>even has to use an alternative social media website in order to avoid censorhip
W E W
E
W

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>>62116201

>>62116201
I don't get it. Can't they serve their website on the clearnet by a plain IP?

>>62116201
this is ridiculously for a stupid meme website, SJW are really that mental ill? every day that passes it gets worst

>>62116201
/pol/ ETERNALLY BTFO

>>62116201
(((Auernheimer)))

>>62116201
HOW DARE YOU DISCRIMINATE AGAINST BLACK HITMEN AND ASIAN DRUG DEALERS

AHA! that's why their website was slow as shit

Kek, good

>>62116273
>Can't they serve their website on the clearnet by a plain IP
Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>62116273

yeah but then there wouldn't any free social media attention

>>62116273
You are retarded

>>62116332
Are you also just pretending to be retarded?

>>62116336
>>62116324

>ohhh it's just a meme website that's why we need professional web hosting

As if you needed any more proof that tor is compromised.

Like I said, Tor onion sites are really vulnerable to DoS when everyone who isn't a frogposter hates you. eepsites are no less vulnerable when set up by an idiot like weev, and the naming is centralised.

As a former I2P designer: GTFO our nodelists. We do not want neo-Nazis on our network.

I hope Tor will be compromised and everyone will be forced to use i2p or something.

Who knew people hated nazi's.... damn

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>>62116357
>these are the people who post on /g/

It's telling how their arguement isn't that they are a good website that deserves to be treated better, but that there are worse websites than theirs

>>62116383
Worse than people who sell illegal drugs, distribute child porn, and hire hitmen?
Tor is just an SJW shithole now

>>62116201
Proof?

>>62116417
yeah it's basically
>well me might be racists nazi trash b-b-but the pedos and druggy degenerates!

kek, what a bunch of retards.

>>62116361
TOR is a cia tool intended to destabilize third world governments, it's explicitly their goal

Nobody ever said it was a tool for your anonymity

>>62116417
Who would accept that argument? Nobody. But if you mention that sites that sell pictures of naked children don't get choked by Tor operators, you get people's attention.

>>62116201
>complain about SJW and their safe spaces
>cry when Tor violates their safe space
ah, right-wing logic.

>>62116435
found the pedo

>>62116425
Murderers are worse than rapists, therefore we can't arrest any rapists until we catch every single murderer

>>62116425
Honestly yea, drug use should be fully legal, what you ingest is something only you should have a say over.
Child porn distribution is meh, go after the sick fucks actually diddling kids

Hiring hitmen isn't exactly difficult, and wouldn't you rather have them contained someplace that is somewhat monitored by law enforcement?

>>62116201
/pol/ cucks btfo

>>62116429
Visit the site and see.

>>62116470
is there any proof its actually the tor project doing it?

>>62116470
Link?

>>62116452
>have a network that is the core of pedophilia, hitmen, drugs, snuff videos and other illegal activities
>lost shit when a stupid meme pages just host on it
ah, leftard hypocrisy

/g/ was right about Tor being run by Feds.

As if you were surprised.

>>62116452
>not realizing that by doing so they're turning the network into a leftist safe space
ah, left-wing logic :^}

>>62116460
I fucking hate the 21st century.

>>62116519
and I hate the rise of authoritarian demagogues, yet here we sit.

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>>62116495
Pic related from the owners gab.

You realise this might as well be like one person with a Raspberry Pi, right? Tor onion sites are quite easy to DoS.

>>62116361
>>62116377
The onion router is designed to provide an anonymity set for your TCP internet access, notably the World Wide Web. Even onion sites were an afterthought (and it shows). It is definitely not designed to shield neo-Nazis against an entire internet that hates them. Nor is I2P, or anything else - if more than half of the network hates you, you are completely fucked in any fielded network design.

And I don't feel like fielding a new one until the frogposters are thoroughly BTFO.

>>62116425
>>62116417
Yes. Nazis are even more universally reviled than pedos. After all, we didn't fight a world war about pedos. Or even drugs (the opium wars were comparatively short).

>>62116542
What do you expect from /pol/? They're all fucking children who've got no actual technical expertise besides the few script kiddie faggots who've been "red pilled"

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>>62116533
>authoritarian demagogues
>literally no meaningful policy changes since the election
kekerino my neoliberal corporatist friend, did you actually think those elected conservashits could do anything to /our/guys?

>>62116460
Keep in mind what is legal, is not only allowed, but enforced. Legalizing highly addictive drugs leads to employer drug scandals and modern slavery. If it's not addictive or lethal I'm fine with it, but what do you know, the majority of outlawed drugs are addictive and lethal.

Hiring hitmen is difficult. There are more fakes than real ones, hitmen on tor can anonymously build public reputation and do more than "word on the street" cartel members.

>>62116509
This, part of anonymous and free exchange of information is extremists ideals. Even if the majority considers them harmful, moderation ultimately results in a biased, non-free safe space.

When you want an anonymous and free internet, you have to take the bad with the good.

>>62116577
Marijuana is the most commonly used drug besides maybe caffeine and alcohol, isn't physically addictive, and has no potential to be lethal.
Yet it's illegal and comprises the VAST majority of nonviolent drug arrests in the US.

>companies and private enterprise should be unrestricted and unbidden, able to do what they want
>but not like that
alt-reich retards, everyone

>>62116572
Trump just pardoned a guy for violating a court order that was given for violating people's constitutional rights.

>>62116611
They're allowed to do it but only when it's for our side, obviously.

>>62116614
>some conservashit didn't have to sit in a cell
Big fucking woop dumbass, keep your eye on the ball. None of that matters so long as we control the bureaucracy, the media, the schools, the corporations, and the internet. It's just more rope for us to hang him with.

>tfw some fair-weather liberals don't think they'll live to see an execution followed by a true cultural revolution
ye of little faith

>>62116625
ah fuck now how could I forget

>>62116201
I thought it felt slow, even for Tor.

>>62116536
Yeah, it's slow as fuck now(?) but working alright. Nazi must sue tor guys for breaking net neutrality rules:3

>>62116536
Oh, he's still on Wordpress? Someone should sort that out with them.

>>62116558
If they had the technical expertise they would have known how very easy it is to DoS identifiable nodes on overlay networks. And they would have known if >51% of the network doesn't want them, then with any network design that scales, they won't be able to participate.

Also, there's the meta-play: it's in the interests of the Russian government to attempt to drive people off Tor, the only widely-deployed overlay mixnet with a reasonable anonymity set, which they're already trying to ban. Convincing people like you that Tor is somehow unsafe to use for any purpose is in line with their psyop goal.

>>62116598
Let me be clear: the cypherpunks did not create mixnets for the benefit of fascists. Anarchism means everyone can punch Nazis.

>>62116661
>>some conservashit didn't have to sit in a cell
You completely missed the mark. He pardoned a guy that violated the constitution. He's implicitly saying the constitution is irrelevant and telling his supporters he'll cover for them if they violate it. His pardon undermined the court system. He's trying to disrupt the government institutions so he can make himself the only branch.

>>62116611
If they really believe in national socialism or some form of Fascism, they'd almost certainly NOT agree with the first. Corporations and small businesses alike would answer to the State. If the State were to crush free expression, well, it may not be unconstitutional depending on what the country's founding documents outline for free speech.

Like with anything, they're pissed off because under the CURRENT system this sort of thing is permissible and seems uniquely targeted at THEM, furthering their belief they are being targeted for removal and demographic replacement.

I won't be opening any champagne bottles over this.

>>62116761
>illegal immigrants are covered by the constitution
Nobody complains that most of the people he "violated" were actual criminals though.

Have these "interesting" logs been posted anywhere? Not inclined to just believe weev here. The leftist conspiracy angle has more way propaganda value than a simple DoS.

This is very disturbing.

>>62116785
He detained people without probable cause. Reports indicate that he would roll up to like Mexican restaurants and detain everyone in the restaurant and demand to see ID and arrest anyone who refused which is illegal because he does not have probable cause to do that. The fact that maybe some were illegals is irrelevant because they're still have the majority of the rights guaranteed by the constitution when they're inside the united states. The police do not get to ignore the constitution on a hunch.

>>62116614
There's no constitutional right protecting illegal immigrants.

>there are actually people unironically defending the death of free speech

14
>>>/pol/139244550

88
>>>>/pol/139244550

>fake news site makes fake news about being fake news

Yeah I'm sick of these babies now.
You can't censor shit on tor, it requires massive coordination, and opposite to what the SJWs believe, no-one gives a shit.

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>>62116761
>He's trying to disrupt the government institutions so he can make himself the only branch.
Wow, you sound like a conservashit. Who the fuck cares about the constitution idiot? Are you some kind of patriot cousin fucker?

Like I said, we own the corporate edifice of this place. We have everyone from Bernie Sanders to Goldman Sachs in our corner. We can't lose.

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>>62116538
>commie going "muh werld wer" again
For every year America fought Nazis, eleven were spent fighting communists.

>>62116878
Politics is like football. Everything is okay when you're winning. When you begin to lose you get mad, scream about the ref, and focus on minor technicalities of the rules.

> "If you use Tor in a political way that we can decipher as something we don't like, we'll go after you."

Let's all say "easy manipulation" together, now!

>Its another "Lets defend the death of the internet" episode

Your personal opinions on the content do not matter. Your political leanings do not matter. If you support the end of free expression on a supposedly neutral medium then you're a monster and a useful idiot puppet of the state.
This 100% absolutely is going to end with the government stepping in and placing harsh restrictions on the internet in the name of "preserving freedom." Then we'll get bill after bill of legislation curtailing user freedom and it will be sold as defending the children.

You fucking retards are actively killing one of the most useful and powerful tools mankind has ever created. Less than a decade of you normie retard faggots getting on the internet and you're fucking killing it.

>>62116852
> they still have the majority of the rights guaranteed by the Constitution when inside the United States

Given how many anti-gang laws are floating around, I'm not even sure that's true. Police are able to roll up dozens of people on the pretense a given property is known to be a public nuisance. That's all the "probable cause" they need.

That's probably why Shapiro was hammered for contempt of court, not finding 0 probable cause or "profiling." The police more or less have a blank check.

That should probably concern us more than any one sheriff wise to the fact.

>>62116751
Wisdom, that will go ignored.

>>62116785
>most of the people he "violated" were actual criminals though.
No, they weren't. Look up his full list of abuses dumbfuck

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>>62116911
>If you support the end of free expression on a supposedly neutral medium then you're a monster and a useful idiot puppet of the state.
Are you frustrated naziboi? kek

>>62116873
Anyone who is inside the united states has a subset of the rights that are guaranteed by the constitution. They don't get the right to vote in elections or the right to own weapons but they do have most of the other rights.

The founders of the united states recognized that some rights were not to be granted by government but were natural rights that were owed to all men. The constitution does not grant these rights it protects them from violations.

>>62116937
(((you)))

>>62116504
why would the feds not want to keep the masses distracted with Nazi LARPing

also this guy is an outrage monger, there's no reason to believe a single thing he says

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>>62116899
>this entire post
When will commies learn they never win?

1871 LOST
1919 LOST
1920 LOST
1938 LOST
1953 LOST
1962 BACKED DOWN
1989 LOST
1991 TOTAL KO

>>62116924
Wrong. Look up actual reports, not one posted by Vice.

>>62116393
>Uh, wad heppen?

>>62116911
I support limitations on free speech. Deleterious and bellicose rhetoric should be restricted

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>>62116939
>muh constitution
>muh rights
Shut the fuck up Ted Cruz. It's a living breathing document.

Has he actually posted the log output or do we just have to believe what he says? How does he know it's the operators and not another party thats doing this?

>>62116976
I too wish to be raped in the mouth by my betters.

>>62116983
>anti-trump FANATIC
Clearly unbiased article.

>>62116970
>>62116785
Joe was a county sheriff that ran a jail. He didn't run a prison. The people he detained were suspects but not criminals. The court system determines guilt and administers punishment not him.

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>>62116976
Then amend the Constitution. You do know how that works, right? If you support tearing up the 1st Amendment, I expect you have a plan.

>>62116983
>mfw
The Supreme Court shits on you literally every time you try that stupid argument. Your last victory was what, the Civil Rights act? Which isn't even an amendment, it could be repealed at any time.

>>62117006
>kills someone he doesn't know based entirely on political belief
>not a fanatic

>>62116995
what does it matter? He can say that's what's happening and as is evidence by this thread alone, people believe it regardless of if it's actually true, and since people believe him and are acting on it, then it MUST be true. Right?

>>62117016
I'm talking about the articles itself. Journalism should be unbiased and have only the facts. Any time you have name-calling, you're inserting bias.

>SICKO
>FANATIC
>FREAK

>>62117016
He killed his neighbor, idk about you but i've wanted to shoot a neighbor before, especially busy body cucks.

Not to mention, how the fuck is his next door neighbor
>someone he doesn't know

>>62117014
>be illegal immigrant
>get arrested because you refuse to incriminate yourself
>police officer goes to prison
Nice country amerifats

>>62116538
>he thinks america entered the war to stop ebil naazees
/leftypol/ needs to be gassed

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>>62117028
Fuck your ideals and your morals white devil.

>>62116751
go back to /leftypol/ you pedophile faggot

>>62117006
>When assassinations aren't done by fanatics, but running over some commies is domestic terrorism

>>62117039
>Liberals are unhinged mental cases that can't be trusted near a weapon
Tell us something we don't know, Adam Lanza.

>>62117041
You have the right to not incriminate yourself. The police have the right to detain people if there's probable cause that a crime has occurred. Looking mexican is not a crime and is not sufficient enough evidence to make it probable cause.

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>>62116201

Sometimes you have to take inventory of your life, and ask yourself whether you might be the problem.

>>62117078
>he ignored everything I said and instead posited something totally unrelated

Holy debate skills batman!

>>62116995
If you take weev at face value, you must have no idea as to his history.

Such a DoS could be done by one person, with one VPS, with no need for it to be distributed. There is no way to defend against it. They are as anonymised by the Tor network as weev's server is. The same technique works on I2P, because we never actually implemented the attempt at a defense and certainly won't for the benefit of neo-Nazis.

Anything that stops literal nazis is fine in my book. Take your shit back to your containment board

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>>62117092
>muh rights
>muh probable cause
All buzzwords of fascists trying to perpetuate white supremacy.

>>62117092
>Looking mexican is not a crime
That law didn't pass in Arizona though. It's just pyshco lefties grasping at straws to attack Trump with his beliefs. Like when they scream about Jesus Christ being an immigrant.

>>62117114
if he was found in a bin beaten, how the fuck did they determine it was because he looks like hitler?

Literally his owner says it MUST'VE been because of his hitler-esque look.

Despite the fact there are no witnesses or anyone having been caught and gotten a confession from.


Wew

>>62117094
>I'll claim he didn't address my point because his rebuttal made me uncomfortable
No, normal people do not want to shoot their neighbors. You have a problem. Many, even most, liberals do. A combination of impotent rage and insecurity that makes them fear what they would do if given a weapon – this is the basis of gun control.

That's not relevant to the original topic. A self professed leftist walked onto a Republican's property and shot him in the face. You claim he is not a fanatic. Pathetic apologist.

>>62116201
Isn't Weev borderline computer illiterate?

The Stormer faggot probably configured his site wrong and started blaming some made up conspiracy because of his paranoid schizoid personality.

>>62117099
so this means that this technique can be used for other sites as well. how come sites with illegal content still stay up or are they facing the same problems too?

>>62117150
>Isn't Weev borderline computer illiterate?
No, its just that you are completely illiterate.

>>62116976
>free speech exists for nice things people will agree with

>>62117028
journalism isn't a thing any more, everything is opinion editorials and blogs

>>62117042
Remember the time Tom Cruise almost killed Hitler? So close, USA #1.

>>62117105
Back to r/tech, baizuo.

>>62117168
t. weev

>>62117148
>normal people do not want to shoot their neighbors
>Many, even most, liberals do

Sorry but if normal people don't want to shoot their neighbors, but "many, even MOST, liberals do". Then surely it IS perfectly normal?

>normal
adjective
1.
conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.


hmm so if MOST liberals think this, then by definition it is "normal".


retard

>>62116604
I agree, marijuana should be legal, but it's merely an exception as it does not compare to the vast majority of illegal drugs, legalization of marijuana should not be incentive for the legalization of all drugs.

>>62116201
as long as they stay away from Freenet i'm good

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>>62117105

>>62117179
>>62117212
Why did you bite such obvious bait?

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>>62117188
>literally the part and parcel non-argument
You've gone full room temperature IQ mode

>>62117225
It wasn't bait. I mean it.

>>62116538
>After all, we didn't fight a world war about pedos.
We didn't fight a war about Nazis either. A lot of businesses and politicians during WWII actually viewed the Nazis favorably and some did even after learning of the holocaust. The US entering WWII was a political move because of Japan's alliance with Germany, and to a lesser degree to make sure Russia claimed as little land in Europe as possible.

>>62117236
Eric Anon, simply Eric

>>62117197
it might not compare to the vast majority of illegal drugs, but it constitutes what, 80% of drug arrests?

Make all drugs legal and increase public education about how to properly dose the drugs.

MOST OD's happen because MOST people are getting shitty cut to fuck heroin, but occasionally they'll get some fairly pure stuff which is far more pure than they're used to, but since they have no way of knowing this without testing it, they just shoot up a "normal" amount, which happens to be 3x as powerful as what they're used to because it simply isn't as cut as what they're used to. So boom, overdose.

Lab controlled heroin that is made to a specific level of purity and comes with dosage suggestions based on weight, height, age, gender, etc. Would be FAR more effective fighting drug overdoses, and you'd also be making massive tax profits which could be reinvested into public education and awareness of drug use and the side effects of the drugs.

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>>62117201
>we should celebrate node poisoning attacks on Tor because I really don't like that boogeyman
Compelling argument

>>62116604
By design.

>>62116201
Fake news. It's pretty much impossible for the "Tor operators" to do that.
Their hidden service is likely being hit by a few DoS attacks but the Tor project has no way of preventing that either.

>>62117197
nixon made marijuana illegal explicitly because it was believed to make blacks rapacious

>>62117197
A rational option would be to take alcohol as the base point. Anything more harmful than alcohol becomes illegal, and anything less harmful is legalised.
This would really ruin the tobacco industry though.

>>62117274
fucking duh

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>>62117282
Fake News.

>>62117288
is this the same excuse you fags make when you praise islam

>>62117298
It obviously was fake news, but it was still published and widely believed for decades.

>>62117298
It was made illegal to imprison more poor people, since marijuana was affordable.

>>62117285
Then let's say it outright, the first time around.

>>62117283
Have you considered that you just bite low hanging bait too often? How many people spouting "muh jooz" do you think are actually /pol/, and how many just know you'll feed them (You)s?

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>>62117311
>niggers believing nigger-news matters
ok

>people on /g/ are celebrating others being forcefully censored RIGHT NOW
shiggy diggy do, remember this when it starts to affect you.

>>62116900
>i'm going to post pictures of people i hate that support communism
you sure showed him

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>>62117284
That's funny because Alcohol is the most harmful drug on the market.

>>62117284
Alcohol is arguably one of the most harmful drugs though. Alcoholics are some the worst drug users, they're violent and stupid and severely impaired to the point where they can't do anything without fucking up. The withdrawal symptoms of alcoholism are really bad too. People have died from them.

>>62117278
Not "pretty much", it *is* impossible, but all the tech-consumer fags on here are not autistic enough to read rend-spec.txt .

>>62117339
>Ignoring the argument because you're bedazzled by pictures like a toddler
lol

>>62117342
not so clear cut as alcohol's harm is often weighted by ease of access

>>62117342
>>62117354
Alcohol isn't a drug, it's a drink.
Besides, there is no way in fucking hell you are banning alcohol. Not unless you're stupid and have never read a book.

>>62117379

>>62117329
These fucking windows shitlord newfag cancers are truly killing everything. So many brainless niggers supporting censorship on /g/ its beyond any reasoning.

This fucking gay site is dead.

>>62117397
>Alcohol isn't a drug, it's a drink.
This is enraging to read. That something can exist and generate such asinine braindead output.

>>62117432
weed isn't a drug it's a plant bro

>>62116425
Nazis killed millions of people. They started the whole WWII.

So yes, Nazis are worse than few illegal drug sellers, few child porn distributors and few hire hitmens (mostly fakes).

The idea of spreading unequal rights is bane of modern world. Its the type of idea that was supposed to be done with by 21st century. We fought the WWII over it, we had civil rights movements, we had civil wars over it.

>>62116201
They're just getting ddosed. If the owner of the site and the /pol/tards weren't techincally inept retards. They'd know that all the controversial sites in the network are constantly attacked by vigliantes. His server isn't properly configured and his trying to blame the TOR developers for it.

>>62117397
Alcohol is a drug and controlled as such.

Caffeine is also a drug, as is tobacco.

>>62116273
They've tried. No one respects the freedom of speech.

>>62117473
lol?
freedom of speech exists to protect you from the government telling you what you can and can't say.

No where does it protect you from a private company telling you to fuck off with your nazi/racist bullshit.

>>62116452
There's a difference between being silenced and being opposed

I don't use bash. Bash was created by a nigger.
I blame the niggers for Shellshock.

Did someone link the /pol/ defense force to this thread holy shit

>>62117499
It's still censorship.

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>>62117499
>libertarians

>>62117467
>People who were members of the NSDAP killed millions a wayyyy long time ago
>therefore people who believe in national socialism in the current year are worse than child rapists
???

>>62117499
>lol?
Kill yourself normie.

I never suggested a company must protect freedom of speech.

Also, I'm going to kill all niggers, illegals, and shitskins.

>>62116324
>>62116336
>>62116350

Not everybody is clued in to the happenings of your favorite meme site, anon. Most people don't give a shit about the trials and tribulations of The Daily Stormer.

>>62117536
and it's still perfectly legal

I'm perfectly fine with it in this situation, there should be no outlet for such hate groups.

>>62117543
>Also, I'm going to kill all niggers, illegals, and shitskins.
Good thing i'm white and most likely wealthier than you (i'm not some poor flyover cuckboi)

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>>62117499

>to fuck off with your nazi/racist bullshit
>BLM/anitifa/anti-white news sites exist and are not even silenced by social media even though they break their TOS

Really makes you think.

>>62117552
>cries about nazis as a white male
And I'm the cuck?
Go praise niggers or trans for being so brave while they demand free shit.

>>62117582
Yeah, who knew private companys could do whatever they wanted as long as it doesn't break the law...

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>allow TDS to exist and refute their arguments: TDS and white supremacy get 0 new recruits and actually lose followers
>allow TDS to exist and ignore it: TDS and white supremacy get 0 new recruits and their tiny group decays over time as newblood isn't joining
>censor TDS from clearnet: TDS and white supremacy get a few new recruits because the mainstream has granted them the mystique of being forbidden
>censor TDS from the clearnet, try to kick them off tor and bay for their blood: TDS and white supremacy ranks grow in an unrivaled manner as you have just fucking proven their argument that their ideas are under attack

GUESS WHICH OPTION THE SJWS IN TECH CHOSE

So what's free now, freenet?

If there is a conspiracy by relay operators to censor TDS, then surely there are IRC logs, mailing list posts, etc. to prove it right? Where are weev's alarming logs posted?

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>>62116201

>>62116276
you really thought they would stop after declaring pepe a hate symbol?

Daily reminder that hate speech isn't free speech, but kiddie pr0n is.

>>62117592
>only blacks and minorities make use of social programs

Wew fucking lad, it's like you're actually retarded.

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>>62117593
>freedom of association is still the law of the land
oh sweetie

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>>62117467
That wasn't real Nazism. Real Nazism has never been achieved.

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>>62117283
/pol/ is fucking bootcamp, boot. The only difference between /pol/ and a bootcamp is, tho, that in bootcamp you now when it's over. /pol/, however, has no ritual, no institutionalized way of telling you that you have become a motherfucking meme ops fighting a war that has no front, fighting a war that will never have an end, not knowing who your enemy is nor your allies, not knowing why or what you're fighting for. Now be a good goy and jerk it to traps, boot.

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>>62117552
>I'm okay with censorship of my political opponents
anti fascism huh

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>>62117618
mein sides

>>62117593
Yeah, up until the moment they're declared public utilities and public forums, something lefties seem intent on expediting through furious self foot shooting.

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>>62117618

>>62117651
According to the Supreme Court of the United States, yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

Deal with it.

>>62117650
>up until the moment they're declared public utilities and public forums
but their not or did trump pass a bill that says otherwise. i havent been following politics much.

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>>62117651
Oh sweetie.

>>62117601
Don't expect any critical thoughts from /pol/. If some random news site, twitter account, youtuber or whatever says something that fits their world view, they will believe it without question. Actually, that's not even a sign of /pol/. A lot of people are like this.

>>62117615
Says the white embarrassment that's glad people's opinions are suppressed.

You're worthless, and nothing you ever say will carry any weight since you carry such fascist views.

>>62117676
They haven't been yet but liberals seem to be trying their best to hurry that process up. They even filed a lawsuit that would do exactly that if they won.

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>>62117692
>only whites have these views

>>62117692
>people's opinions are suppressed
Go outside and stand on a box and scream for all the world to hear, that's perfectly legal.

Going to a website that is owned by a private company and expecting them to put up with your drivel is just you being a child.

>>62117154
Anonymous raids them sometimes. Anonfile went down a while back and had that stupid fucking Hail Hydra shit.

>>62117467

Marxist were an order of magnitude worse, yet there are no active efforts to completely remove any mention of it from public dicourse and brand their symbols as hate speech.


>The idea of spreading unequal rights

So special priviledges for non-whites?

Honestly it's good that they are censoring Daily Stormer. They should censor more sites like it.

Everyone who's against this are plebs. Oldfag /pol/acks should be happy. This is exactly what they said would happen just years ago.

This is how you create counter culture :D

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>>62117709
Um, no, sweetie.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/30/twitter-lawsuit-against-trump-for-blocking-followers-just-got-a/23056418/

The law is rapidly shifting towards recognizing internet forums as what they are, public forums.

If you care to read a bit of the political theory on why you're retarded, see pic as a starting point.

>>62117711
>yet there are no active efforts to completely remove any mention of it from public dicourse and brand their symbols as hate speech.
Because Marxism is extremely rare, and as an orthodox ideology, considered out of date even by the far left.
In comparison, fascism is literally an ideology based on the celebration of narcissism and irrationality. It will always have a lot of appeal to brainlets and attention whores.

>>62116425
I don't care about people consuming drugs or child porn. Neither hurt anyone. Nobody hires hitmen on tor.

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>weev
his 5 minutes of fame ended years ago. also private services aren't required to cater to delusional /pol/tards. In all seriousness pedos and druggies are less reprehensible than stormweenies and white supremacists. Absolutely no one likes these people.

>>62117746
>political theory on why you're retarded
wow sure is an amazing law that's on the books there.

I dont give a fuck about what COULD be considered a public forum in the future.

>>62117694
>They haven't been yet but liberals seem to be trying their best to hurry that process up.
but the republicans have majority in all sections of the governement. how can they hurry this process up? they can block things from happening but they can't pass things on their own.

>They even filed a lawsuit that would do exactly that if they won.
they lost.

>>62117746
>free speech is forcing private enterprise to do what they do not want to do with their property
Sounds like communist claptrap to me.

Good.

>>62117762
wtf I love pedos and hitmen now!

>>62117709
What's the difference between a (shared) monopoly and the government when it comes to censorship and suppression?

If opinions aren't allowed anywhere then it's a problem. If every company rejected liberals there would be a lot of niggers standing on the freeway.

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>>62117618
This. Real National Socialism has never been tested.

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>tor

>>62117786
Daily Stormer isn't satire though. They memespout, but they really believe the garbage they post.

>>62117764
Case law.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/96/727/case.html
>Liberty of circulating is essential to that freedom

You will lose. The law is not on your side.

>>62117790
Ironic McCarthyism isn't any better than earnest, shitwipe. Get an argument of drink bleach.

Organisations are not people and thereby do not have the same expectations as people.
For example, google is not a person. They do not have human rights, like the right to serve who they want.
They are an organisation, and therefore they have undue power over others. Trusting that an organisation won't abuse their powers (especially after a precedent has been set by going after people that no-one likes anyway) is retarded.

>>62117711
That isn't true at all. The SEP (Socialist Equality Party) is currently getting assfucked by Google.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/04/goog-a04.html
Probably because like most actual Commies they don't support identity politics. They support innocent until proven guilty in rape cases. Lighter sentences for everyone including rapist. Don't believe in the wage gap. Hate Bernie Sanders and consider BLM to be a CIA front. Marxists were the only thing keeping femshits and idpolers from completely destroying civil society along with their conservatard allies.

>>62117816
>closed (invalid)

>>62117827
Fuck off back to your chapo subreddit faggot.

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>wh*tes

>>62117821
>Ironic McCarthyism isn't any better than earnest, shitwipe.
What? I'm not red-baiting, I'm only saying that this definition of free speech sounds like a naive ideal that lacks consideration of its own possible externalities.

>>62116201
What happened to I don't like what you are saying but will fight for your right to say it?

Disgraceful.

>>62117748

>Marxist/Communist countries still exist and have existed for almost a countires (Nazi Germany lasted less than 10 and was the only NatSoc country in existense)
>Marxists parade on the streets of multiple countries
>American universities unironically praise marxism and are given full freedom to do so
>people unironically post multiple marxism memes and want to introduce communism
>extremely rare

Also, Marxism is based on the celebration of lack of responsiblity, victimization and envy. It has a lot of appeal to lazy young people, thieves and sociopathic opportunists.

>>62117499
> implying freedom of speech only exists as it relates to a constitution, and not as it has been understood for years, as a general principle that can be applied to any medium and authoritative party with control over that medium.
wew

>>62117850
>this is what libcucks actually believe

>>62117821
literally nothing wrong with mccarthyism

>>62117805
Pedos can't change the way they are, and druggies are just hedonists. White supremacists are willfully ignorant, constantly call for the death of people, and paint themselves as the eternal victim. It's also insulting to all white people for a few morons to sit there and screech "I'M BETTER THAN YOU NIGGERS BECAUSE OTHER WHITE PEOPLE, THAT I'M NOT IN ANYWAY RELATED TO AND WHO WOULD HAVE HATED MY GUTS, MADE [thing]."

>>62116201
TOR ops violate net neutrality. I guess they were always pro trump.

>>62117770
>They lost
The rest of your post isn't worth acknowledging if you can't even do the 30 seconds of research to see it's still an active case.

>>62117856
That's not what you said at all but let's pretend you did and roll with it. John Stuart Mill put it pretty simply that freedom of speech or expression is useless if only the government is restrained, because any mob or corporation can act as an unelected, unaccountable government.

>People thinking some nazi memelords are worse than literal drug-dealers and pedophiles

Truly degenerate my friends

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>>62117618

Heh.

>>62117875
>this is what brown hair "white" people believe

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>>62117882
>mean words are worse than raping kids
Cant make this shit up!

>>62116201
considering this guy never names names or say what companies he has actually tried and just makes vague statements I am going to believe that he is just looking for free media and isnt really blocked.

>>62117786
youtube makes money from advertisers.
advertisers want their content to be associated in a positive light.
advertisers have deemed that content containing white supremacy, violence, drugs, pedoshit etc. may cause their products to be associated in a negative light.
advertisers complain and yt has to do something about it.
they block content that would be deemed negative and go a step further to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
maybe if the right wasnt calling for genocide and violence then this situation could have been avoided.

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>>62117850
>Nazis want to gas Hitler
Top tier logic

I hope net neutrality gets smashed. It's time to regulate the internet. We are living in a new age.

>>62117874
Considering we have shit where people are thrown out of their jobs teaching at religious schools because they decide to teach something the school doesn't agree with. I really don't see how a website doing the same thing isn't identical.

An atheist who works at a christian school and attempts to convince their class that god didn't create everything is going to get fired. No first amendment is going to save your ass there.

So why should a business like google, or anyone else, have to put up with the same?

Freedom of speech is very specific and it has nothing to do with you being able to say whatever you want whenever you want.

>>62116911
people will always do retarded things when someone says something that they dont like. i bet that you too would be fine with censoring things if someone said bad things about you on some site.

>>62117900
>looking at cheese pizza is LITERALLY raping children!
frogposting stormweenies, everyone.

>>62117840
WSWS is banned from nearly all "left wing" subreddits because their all edgy libtards like the retards over at Google's PR departments. I love how you fags shift the goalpost after I show they censor the far left just like they censor the far right.

>>62117873
>>Marxist/Communist countries still exist and have existed for almost a countires (Nazi Germany lasted less than 10 and was the only NatSoc country in existense)
That sounds like concrete proof that fascism is the shittier ideology, honestly.
>>Marxists parade on the streets of multiple countries
So do pedos. Any idiot can start a parade with a few people.
>>American universities unironically praise marxism and are given full freedom to do so
American universities are run by postmodernists, and postmodernism is a strictly anti-Marxist ideology.
>>people unironically post multiple marxism memes and want to introduce communism
Who are "people"?
>Also, Marxism is based on the celebration of lack of responsiblity, victimization and envy. It has a lot of appeal to lazy young people, thieves and sociopathic opportunists.
It sounds to me like you have some sort of personal vendetta here. That's not my problem.

>>62117888
>The rest of your post isn't worth acknowledging
:^)

>>62117917
freedom of speech is concept. don't confuse it with the role of the us government under the 1st amendment.

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>>62117917
>muh christians

>>62117914
Net neutrality has nothing to do with this. Private entities would still be allowed to give /pol/ the finger under the current rules. Only ISPs couldn't.

>>62117924
>after I show they censor the far left just like they censor the far right

You're delusional.

>>62117888
>That's not what you said at all but let's pretend you did and roll with it. John Stuart Mill put it pretty simply that freedom of speech or expression is useless if only the government is restrained, because any mob or corporation can act as an unelected, unaccountable government.
So... how is it not essentially an unattainable pipe dream?

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>>62117922
>being a fan of someone else raping kids isn't bad
lmao

I think /g/ is more "/a/" than "pol". People here only want, technology, animes, mangas, visual novels.
This entire shitstorm is only good for us because everybody avert their eyes to stormfronters instead of people downloading CP, shotacon, lolicon, eroges and few other things that peole here enjoy.
We, the board /g/, are harmless when compared to stormfronters or /pol/.

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>>62117961

>>62117949
I know. I hope the ISPs get to regulate content as well as the tech giants like Google. It's time to regulate.

>>62117911
>>62117920
>this is how insecure storm babbies are

>>62117594
Basically this. If the only way you can stop people from becoming Nazis is to censor them, then you're fucking weak shit, and need to learn how to form a fucking argument.

>>62117883
FUCKING THIS

Nobody is pointing out the insane hypocrisy playing out here. All these ledditors rallying for 'net neutrality'-- but when given an opportunity to show where their principles lay, they decide they care more about silencing a tiny and irrelevant website than actually following through on policy that they believe is so clearly and obviously correct.

Is this a r/the_donald invasion?

>>62117943
>If you can't do basic research into what you're talking about
Prove me wrong. Why should I waste time on you?

>>62117962
Making de facto public forums into de jure public forums by regulating them as a utility. How is that unattainable or a pipe dream? A hell of a lot simpler than healthcare reform.

>>62117972
>I think I speak for all of /g/
I've been here since before /pol/ was a board, and you're a faggot.

>>62117984
Is there a logic course we can enroll you in? You seem to be having problems with the concept of "an argument".

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>>62117970
If the people watching it don't ever touch a child what difference does it make? Either way, I can sympathize more with a pedo that gave into his urges than a "kekistani" /pol/edditor.

Is this whole demonisation of the hard-right going to completely blow up in their faces, probably literally if they form some kind of... Pax americana terrorism group?

Maybe a bigrig full of C4 is going to drive into firebox's office or something.

>>62117961
Try posting a link of WSWS on r/fullcommunism and see how fast you get banned. I just posted an article showing how Google is fucking over progressive sites that you haven't disproven. It sounds like you're the delusional one.

If anything it's been interesting to see how much people are willing to get their freedom ass raped by these big corporations since they're "just private companies"

>>62118009
>everyone who disagrees with me must be an ebil ootsider nootzie
I know this is a hard concept for the mentally retarded, but /g/ isn't a hivemind. Literally the only thing everyone on /g/ can agree on is fuck India.

>>62118025
kill yourself, please. I wouldn't want you to be near my children. Fucking dumb kike.

>>62118029
They're banned from a subreddit oh my god duuuuuude

>>62118029
wtf i love google now

>>62118011
>I've been here since before /pol/ was a board, and you're a faggot.
ok redditor

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>>62118025
>I sympathize with pedos who give into their urges
We already said liberals are pedos, no need to confirm for us.

>>62118033
The "just private companies" meme is literally a talking point for paid shills, it bears all the hallmarks of one.

>Appears from nowhere despite community sentiment being exactly opposite for years
>Suddenly pushed hard, but only for one specific and political topic
>Ignores all morals and dismisses all arguments with a is/ought fallacy

>>62118011
>reddit spacing

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>>62117882

>>62117467
those nazis are dead tho. these people that the internet shitposters call nazis are something completely different.

>>62118052
I won't, but given Drumpf's free falling approval rating I wouldn't be surprised if your kind was gassed.
>>62118078
I'm likely "whiter" than you are.

>>62116201
How is this possible?

>>62118011
>Making de facto public forums into de jure public forums by regulating them as a utility. How is that unattainable or a pipe dream? A hell of a lot simpler than healthcare reform.
First of all, healthcare reform in itself actually is pretty simple. American politics are just an impenetrable clusterfuck where doing anything meaningful is impossible.
Second, there are opinions that government officials will absolutely refuse to condone, so it still remains a pipe dream. Not feckless identity bullshit, I mean facts and evidence that point out how fucked up the status quo actually is; there is a reason America's international meddling during the Cold War isn't taught in schools.

>>62117936

How can you say about personal vendetta, when I have presented very specific arguments and you still feel like defending both Marxism and Communism?

It actually sound like it is you who has a personal vendetta against Nazizm and it leads you to ignore a MUCH more harmful ideology, which leads countries to ruin, starvation, and political killings.

Daily reminder that Mao's China ALONE brings the Holocaust to shame, and if that is not an argument to actively try to combat any kind of marxist ideology in any country, including waging open war against them, I don't know what is.

>>62118092
>Not even knowing what meme you're spouting
"Reddit spacing" is a full line gap between the quote link and the reply. Try not being such a massive newfag next time, skookums.

>>62118101
Yeah, na, you're a kike

>>62117154
I'd also like to know this. Like it wouldn't take much for the gov't or even some righteous vigilante to dos the dark web markets following this logic

>>62117910
ISIS videos are still out there monetized, calling for genocide it's not the reason why videos are being demonetized

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>>62118118
>don't you dare criticize Zionism you Nazi bastard

>>62118120
>>62118092
Oh neat, right when I posted someone gave an example of actual reddit spacing!
>>62118118

>>62117917
Why are liberals so incapable of separating legal obligations from moral obligations?

Legally, I don't think they should have to do business with anyone they don't want to do business with. I am not saying that the justice system needs to go after Google, or that the legal system should be setup in a way that the justice system could go after Google. (I don't support the portions of the civil rights act of 1964 that mandate everyone does business with everyone, either)

This is orthogonal from a conversation about how I believe these companies have a MORAL obligation to support these irrelevant, tiny, and racist websites. They ought to believe that open discourse is the vehicle of any kind of progress, and they ought to have the courage to stand up for the principle of open discourse in spite of the lost revenue and bad PR that they naturally expose themselves to.

> Freedom of speech is very specific and it has nothing to do with you being able to say whatever you want whenever you want.
You are not a well read person. The principle of free speech has been understood for a long time to be about much more than the relationship between government and people. Read more classic philosophy texts.

>>62118084
>people disagree with me, they must be evil subversives
>muh morality

>>62118037
I never said that.
All I'm reading here is a bunch of posters sperging about some site getting butt fucked by tor?
And then the usually lefty boogeyman response.
I don't get.
Since when was /g/ reddit, or more specifically r/the_donald? Not even /pol/ gives a fuck about this.

>>62118084
I wouldn't be so sure. I don't doubt that there are shills but a lot of normies literally believe that private companies are allowed to do whatever they want for some reason.

>>62117936
>postmodernism is anti-marxist
>Fouccault
>Harbermas
>Chomsky
It's not like modern universities are discussing Heidegger every single day. The new-wave postmodernism taught to you in universities is almost entirely Frankfurt-inspired and claiming otherwise is a lie and you know this very well.

>Fascism is a shitty ideology.
>Italian fascism literally created corporativism
>Corporativism is the basic foundation upon which American corporations work, it was even backed by Three-letter-agencies during Italy's "Golden Era" and further in to the 20th century and is still the foundation upon which corporate structure exists.
>Fascism is literally division of labour and the ideological platform that your own country run on.
>Shitty ideology.
You need to read more about your favourite hate-subject.

/pol/ dreams about meme-fascism as portrayed by Hollywood.

>>62116435
>racists nazi trash
Implying there's anything wrong with being racist or nationalsocialist?

>>62118148
So basically you're worse than Socialist Utopian liberals when it comes to pretending?

Jesus grow the fuck up

>>62118118
>my genocide > your genocide
The simple fact of the matter is that fascism retains *vastly* more popular support in modern times than communism. It doesn't mean either view should be censored, it's simply reality.

>>62118152
Oh. /g/ has just gone to shit like every other board in the last 6 months because we're in the news as an "internet hate machine" again.

>>62118179
Besides needing to be put to death? No nothing wrong i guess.

>>62118029
So they're only filtered from Google results? That's small potatoes. Literally nothing. And just looking at the site they're even allowed to use Disqus for their comments which no so called "hate site" is anymore.

>>62118120
>r-r-reddit spacing is j-just a m-meme!
okay reddit

>>62117499
oh I guess I can tell niggers not to come into my restaurant since civil rights doesn't apply to private establishments

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>>62118194
>Nazis are violent!
>Kill all Nazis!
>OH MY GOD I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY NAZIS ARE KILLING US
Real mysteries here

>>62118202
/pol/ was originally lulzfags trolling /new/-posts about israeli news

What did you expect?

>>62118177
>The new-wave postmodernism taught to you in universities is almost entirely Frankfurt-inspired and claiming otherwise is a lie and you know this very well.
The Frankfurt school were basically cultural conservatives. Postmodernism being an open rejection of Marxism is a plain documented fact.

>>Corporativism is the basic foundation upon which American corporations work
Which is why a once great country has turned to total shit.

>/pol/ dreams about meme-fascism as portrayed by Hollywood.
Actual fascism is meme-fascism, it's literally an ideology built on a rejection of rationality. People thought they could will an ideal society into existence by memeing about it enough, while the actual Fascist Italy was a total shit show.

>>62118214
Race is a protected status. Just like you can't be denied service for being white.

Having a certain political leaning however is not a protected status.

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>>62118138
>mfw I don't even go on Reddit and do a space between the quote and my reply because I think it looks neater
>mfw never in my years lurking have I noticed that there is no newline after the quote because I'm too lazy for reading comprehention

fug

>>62118226
It's almost like the truth always floats to the top

>>62118218
Lol? I know why the nazi's want to kill us, we want them dead and think they have no place in modern society. They SHOULD want to kill us, and I'll be glad when we get the chance to wipe them out for good. Fuck them, let them come.

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>>62118234
Antifa is the vanguard of corporate neoliberalism. We're proud of that fact. Hail Google!

>>62118194
What a progressive outlook

>>62118084
Watch the irony in your own posts. First you yell "muh thoughtcrime" then engage in getting enraged at what you think is thoughtcrime.
Fucking idiot.

>>62116201
Maybe you should rethink your position if your best argument is "Why haven't they done this to the pedophiles then?".

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>>62118213
>This post is what /leftypol/ squatters are reduced to
lmao

>>62118242
The reddit spacing meme is because of some stupid quirk reddit's editor has with line breaks. It's 90% just more boogeyman to cry about desu.

>>62118044
They respected all individual cultures whioe making them embrace the Soviet system. Everyone within the Soviet Union was allowed to retain their basic cultural identity. It isn't the promotion of one ethnic group over the other.

>>62118258
Get used to it, it's how the majority of americans feel about nazis.

>>62118257
They objectively are though. Even Mitt fucking Romney took the side of Antifa lmao.

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>>62118262
>heh, got em

>>62117327
Those guys do appear, from the picture, to have a very high level of proficiency in metallurgy.

>>62118191
When will 4chan die so I can move on to more obscure chans and message boards?

>>62118257
You're not wrong, but I don't see how it's related to my post.

>>62118152
Prob because this is the first case of literal unpersoning in internet history so it is a little interesting for tech...

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>>62118274
Except by your own definition Trump voters are Nazis.

Can you find me a poll showing the majority of Americans want to kill everyone who voted for Trump? Or are you full of shit?

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Can we get this fucking thread on a bit more on a technical side?

How the fuck tor operators are able to do this? The whole design of tor is that you have no fucking idea what traffic is going through your node.

Are they just getting ddosed?

>>62118235
No, the bottom line is that certain 'freedoms' are enforced both in public and for private entities. Civil rights legislation only works if it is enforced against private businesses—the same thing applies for freedom of speech. Go fuck yourself.

>>62118285
>When will 4chan die
Hopefully soon so then we all can be free

>>62118278
Don't forget Paul "Ayn Rand" Ryan and John McCain. Antifa is not just the hand of corporate CEO multinationals, they're a righteous fist of the GOP!

>>62117282
It does. Don't let these black shills influence you.

>>62118187
>It doesn't mean either view should be censored, it's simply reality.

Agreed

>The simple fact of the matter is that fascism retains *vastly* more popular support in modern times than communism.

Exactly the opposite. Also, leftists pushing for more government power of civic liberties and actively persecuting memebers of a race (ironically calling them fascists) would also constitute as fascism - except it garners widespead supports, e.g. in the US.

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>>62118025
so cp is fine but someone writing words that you dont like on a webpage is not?

>>62118305
>I want things to be this way and since it isn't it's WRONG

fucking top kek

>>62118123
How can you possibly think this is an argument that will ever be accepted by anyone other than delusional stormweenies? Even G-d Emperor Drumpf hates antisemitism.

>>62118177
All the people you listed are supporters of neoliberalism and anti-marxists. Critical theory and post modernism are based on the hatred of the working class.

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>>62116201
I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm not trusting a fake hacker fail troll like (((Weev))) either.

>>62116452
>Cry when someone violates your first amendment rights

Fixed that for you slap nuts.

>>62116361
We already had plenty of proof that Tor was compromised but this incident barely stands on its own legs and is coming from Weev of all people.

>>62117467
>Muh Hitler threw the first stone

Top kek.

>>62116976
Then that's not called free speech.

>>62117329
This. The fact that people can unironically say "Then they came for the Nazis but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Nazi" is unimaginably fucked. We've come full circle into irony here.

>>62117635
This. If you people can't see the irony now, you never will.

>>62118274
Keep telling yourself that

>>62117342
How do you make this chart but spell the drugs wrong??????

>>62118351
I really don't have to, public opinion has spoken, it's why no one gives two shits about your shitty hate filled sites being shut down.

>>62118262
But why haven't they?

>>62116272

Theres no going back after ODing redpills huh?

>>62118329
They're not fine. That's not what I said.
Either way, the main point here is that stormcucks should not be given a forum to speak at unless they are willing to build their own. Want to have Stromfront back on the clearnet? Have one of those rich Trump voters that obviously agree with your views build the infrastructure and host it yourself so no one can ever take it down. Otherwise keep your moronic garbage to yourself.

And before you say it, yes, radical crazy leftism should be given the same treatment.

>>62118329
It is up to private entities to enforce their own content guidelines.
Fuck off commie.

>>62118321
>Exactly the opposite. Also, leftists pushing for more government power of civic liberties and actively persecuting memebers of a race (ironically calling them fascists) would also constitute as fascism - except it garners widespead supports, e.g. in the US.
Okay, no, "leftist" does not mean "antifa". Anti-fascism has been a meme for decades and only came to America long after it lost any semblance of political utility, it's not that popular (and neither is fascism, in absolute terms).
What is popular is news media reporting on it because they generate controversy and thus increased viewership. It's similar to how fear of crime is going up even though actual felony crime has been quickly going down for twenty years. It's just narrative bullshit.

>>62118352
Yeah most states had their own governing bodies many of which came into conflict with the main governing body in Moscow.

>>62116201
>>62116536
I tried it and it seems to be running about as slow as any other Tor hidden service I've connected to. Has this retard considered just getting with a domain registrar that doesn't care?

>>62118234
Postmodernism is anarchosocialism attempting political philosophy. It might be against the authoritarian socialist structure but it 100% socialist in nature.

Corporativism didn'tturn your country to shit. It turned it into a global superstate that currently holds supreme power over every nation earth.

Actual fascism was about consolidation of power and it became a shitshow after they failed to realize that you can't consolidate power by playing one field. You really need to read up more about this. It's kind of fucked up how fascism developed from being what you think it is and turning into what it actually is. I thought you leftist fags knew about the twin tactics of the fascist doctrine.

>>62118336
No. They were liberal socialists and yes they hated the working class. Socialism is a psy-op to mobilize retarded workers to overthrow the system for a new ruler class. Just like libertarianism.

The working class is bound to fail and even Marx knew this. That's why he never ever questioned price-mechanisms in "Das Kapital". That book is literally just "Old german protectionism, but we make people believe they own the corporations". Nothing more and nothing less.

Even in Socialism you have Price and Value on things. Socialism never escapes capitalism, it only seeks to control it. So the working class can never benefit anyway.

>>62118447
>Culture is genetic
Stopped reading right here lmao.

>>62118390
Nope

>>62118304
>"leftist" does not mean "antifa"

But the sentence you quoted DOES apply to leftits, not only Antifa, that's what was my exact point. And it is very popular, and has been growing disturbinly for the past six years.

>>62118304
I would like to know this as well.

>>62117690
>Actually, that's not even a sign of /pol/. A lot of people are like this.
Thanks for at least admitting this. The truth is that that it is basically everybody who does that. It's funny because in being convinced that one needs to care about political issues, they often put less energy into their immediate and personal lives/issues while simultaneously opening themselves up for emotional manipulation that can happen from half way across the globe. People who are into politics are suckers

>>62118441
>Postmodernism is anarchosocialism attempting political philosophy. It might be against the authoritarian socialist structure but it 100% socialist in nature.
How is it socialist if they don't even regard economics as important and meaningful?
>Corporativism didn'tturn your country to shit. It turned it into a global superstate that currently holds supreme power over every nation earth.
So, yes, total shit. The US government is an opaque blob of autism that doesn't care about its people.
>Actual fascism was about consolidation of power and it became a shitshow after they failed to realize that you can't consolidate power by playing one field. You really need to read up more about this. It's kind of fucked up how fascism developed from being what you think it is and turning into what it actually is. I thought you leftist fags knew about the twin tactics of the fascist doctrine.
Nice personal attack, but no, not everyone who disliked fascism as an ideology is leftist.
Fascism is simply Hanlon's razor in political form.

>>62118469
>America will still be America when it's all brown.

These people make fucking stick huts in the middle of Paris retard.

Are you an iq denier as well?

>>62118399
maybe but why arent people working this hard on removing actually illegal content from internet? maybe its time to remove that common carrier or whatever is protecting them from responsibility from these businesses if they dont do same to illegal content too.

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>>62118447
>>62118518
>every american on the internet ever

>>62117751
Nice bait

>>62118518
I stopped reading there because it made it very apparent you're a moron. If culture is genetic how in the world are the ebil Jewish cabal "destroying" wholesome white culture??? It's genetic and immutable, isn't it? That's why shitskins are subhuman, right?

>>62118447
35 percent of people have postive views of socalism in America /pol/tard. It's way more popular then Nazism.

>>62118484
>But the sentence you quoted DOES apply to leftits, not only Antifa, that's what was my exact point.
Not really. Political ideology is more broad than mainstream American pissing contests.
>And it is very popular, and has been growing disturbinly for the past six years.
Every idiot thinks *their* beliefs are being persecuted. It's this mentality that drives SJW authoritarianism to begin with.

>>62118566
>If culture is genetic how in the world are the ebil Jewish cabal "destroying" wholesome white culture???
White nationalists believe Jews have black magic.
Not even kidding.

If culture is not genetic then where the fuck does culture come from? Does it fall from the sky?

>>62118579
I was mostly talking about american leftists, but it is not endemic to americal leftists.

>Every idiot thinks *their* beliefs are being persecuted. It's this mentality that drives SJW authoritarianism to begin with.

Didn't you say that propagating unequal rights is the bane of the modern world? Not that I agree with you, but let's be honest, that's not what leftists are doing (and obviously neither are NatSoc or Communists)

>>62118566
>>62118597
Genetics are "mutable" wtf lol..
If you don't feed a child will it grow to it's genetic potential? No.

White societies all function similarly, Asians too.

Black societies too

And Jews are constantly getting kicked out wherever they go hmm.

Wealthy blacks commit more crime than the poorest whites in America.

The hajinal line predicts family based living choices accurately in societies as well.


Jews are not in conspiracy, but they feel alien to white culture and so naturally rebel. They also are more ethnically minded and promote each other over whites and others.

Jews are massivly over represented in any feild they control

Whites are more high trust and meritocratic, but it's a losing strategy of others aren't the same.

Race is real. HBD is real.