/TPG/ - NEVER EVER edition

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I have 2 questions

The first is I'm looking at upgrading the screen in my t430. The guide on the wiki says to buy a ribbon style cable and cut it a bit so it will fit, but wouldn't pic related work fine too? Or will the fit be too tight?

2nd, what is a good hard case for a t430? Pelican or something else?

>>62107168

https://world.taobao.com/item/520044762973.htm?fromSite=main

You want to upgrade to a TN 900p screen or an actual good ips FHD ? Link is a kit to install FHD IPS.

>>62107147
Any more news on the retro?

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What's the best heatsink for a T430?

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>>62107392

dedicated graphics just has an extra heatpipe, the sink itself isnt really any larger

There are some who claim there are differences in the fans (noise) between models, but I would guess this has more to do with when that particular heatsink was manufactured.

You could always try something like pic related if you want siccc overclocks. A heatpad on top of the cpus heatpipe might transfer heat to the metal tray of the mobo - this is something I intend to try

>Chinese are modifying old ThinkPads with custom modern hardware
>still nobody making classic keyboards for new ThinkPads

What the fuck, /tpg/?

>there will never be a X770

>>62107193
That's only for the s models so he's fugged and the alienware mod is the best he can do.

>>62107193

I was going to go the x1 carbon screen route. I had no idea those converter boards were still for sale so I guess I'll do that instead.

>>62107505

I hope those chinks make a new mobo for the t430 that supports ryzen apus

>>62107467
>You could always try something like pic related if you want siccc overclocks. A heatpad on top of the cpus heatpipe might transfer heat to the metal tray of the mobo - this is something I intend to try

I'm thinking of trying this, too. I upgraded my T430 CPU to an i7-3720QM and it runs pretty hot under load.

>>62107547
>That's only for the s models so he's fugged

god fucking dammit why can they do it for the s but not the regular 430?

There is a thread on thinkpads.com about 1440x2560 for the s, and the guy says they probably wont do the regular one.

>>62107567
>why can they do it for the s but not the regular 430?
too cramped, flickering issues because of heavy interference or something like that iirc

Anybody have the wallpaper?

>>62107554
>I upgraded my T430 CPU to an i7-3720QM and it runs pretty hot under load.

This is exactly what I'm thinking of doing too.

Do you have the nvidia mobo or integrated? I'm kinda worried about power draw with that cpu + nvidia.

>>62107467
w2c

>>62107147
I wish I knew what performance monitor toolbar program they use there
I can't find anything that goes to the taskbar like that
Would be really handy

>>62107168
>The first is I'm looking at upgrading the screen in my t430. The guide on the wiki says to buy a ribbon style cable and cut it a bit so it will fit, but wouldn't pic related work fine too? Or will the fit be too tight?
Ignore the wiki, the best screen upgrade choice is the Alienware M14x R2 screen. It's glossy but has similar viewing angles to the X1C display and has the benefit of being a drop-in replacement requiring no modifications (unless your previous screen was just 768p in which case you'll need the HD+ display cable)

Just make sure you don't get cucked with a "compatible" screen that is the wrong model. best way to make sure you get the right screen is to order a whole upper lid from Alienware M14x R2

>2nd, what is a good hard case for a t430?
It's a thinkpad, it is its own hard case

>>62107467
Would pic related even do anything? There isn't any airflow through the laptop right?

>>62107710
Yeah, I have the Nvidia model. Because that CPU has a slightly higher power draw, the 65W charger isn't enough to charge the laptop while it's on. I've got a separate 90W charger for it.

>>62107567
Board is a different layout, on the non-s the spot where the converter board can fit is also where the power supply hardware is located which interferes with the converter board

>>62107776
>Just make sure you don't get cucked with a "compatible" screen that is the wrong model. best way to make sure you get the right screen is to order a whole upper lid from Alienware M14x R2

Yeah I know about this issue. Thanks for the tip on the alienware screen though. Does it have screws too?

>>62107806
Yes, unlike the X1C screen

I have a T420 with the real Alienware screen in, I can take some photos at various angles if you want to see how it looks

>>62107815
>I have a T420 with the real Alienware screen in, I can take some photos at various angles if you want to see how it looks

Thats alright, I'm doing some reading now and I'll go with the alienware. Thanks again senpai

X220, 230, or 240? I need to run VM's so I need RAM/CPU strength. I've heard the 230 CPU is basically the same as the 240, but how does it compare to the 220?

>>62107831
>I've heard the 230 CPU is basically the same as the 240
You heard wrong, the 230 CPU is actually much faster because 240 is when they started using ULV
Also, the 240 only has single channel RAM while the 220/230 has dual channel

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Just break out that drill press if you need extra cooling

>>62107863
Ok, so it's between the 230 and 220, what's the quick rundown on the important differences?

>>62107886
see >>62100887

>>62107886
X230 is a complete hard upgrade over X220, the biggest pro the X220 has is the older keyboard style, but since you can swap that into the X230 with an EC flash it's totally moot

>>62107968
Does the 230 have the unlockable BIOS to get rid of the PCI-E whitelist?

what's the best thinkpad with a parallel port?

>>62108001
You need a hardware flasher for it but yes it is possible

About to pull the trigger on W530 w/o battery for $300.

Is there anything I should be aware of before making the purchase?

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postan boot screens from last thread

Can someone please post the X220 modified BIOS?

>X61 Tablet with SSD
Is this thing useful in the year 2017?

>>62108280
yes

LMAO just bought an E475 from the website

yall niggas mad or what?

>>62108251
>>62108225
>>62108213
>>62108204
How do I do this?

>>62108452
A little jealous, always wanted to see how shitty those were.

>>62108251
You forgot best girl Himawari.

>>62107147
>x320
What mod is this?

>>62108470
I think the guy making them is still here, I'll post more pictures for him to edit. If you want to help, try and find a decent one of Chinatsu.

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I feel bad for buying an X230 instead of one of these similar Panasonic models. Specs are basically the same but it's 12" and 1600x900 at a similar price.

Normal x230 resolution is immense poverty.

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Why won't my X220 BIOS update? I tried the unmodified and modified and got the same error both times.

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there is nothing inherently wrong with the thinkpad e475 with an SSD

>>62107870
how much does that help? I've always wondered

Does the T60 look better with or without the Thinkvantage sticker?

>>62107147
Hey so I know you guys aren't my personal tech support but I just bought a t420 and I'm a linux newbie so I installed mint with mate.
I've been using the trackpoint and it's slow and even going into the mouse settings doesn't do anything. Is there anything I can do about it?
I did some google searches and only found unhelpful reddit posts. Help pls.

Had a W520 and own an X230.
I like the new keyboard a lot more. I can't believe I fell for this "old" keyboard meme.
Also, this is the best laptop I've ever purchased.

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What's the best smallest TP? The X220?

Looking for a small laptop with good battery life, build quality and a good keyboard. The only thing I do is watch videos/listen to music, write and browse the web.

Picture not really related.

okay, so I was recently given a t61 and a t500 by a relative. Both have a 1680 by 1050 screen. I'm trying to figure out what to do with them. I was thinking of using the t61 for playing some classic gaymes, as it has the nvidia chipset, while the t500 could probably work well as a development environment because of the resolution. The only problem is that I already have a t420 that I use and don't feel like migrating my shit over.

any other recommendations for what I should use them for?

>>62109474
I've heard of people turning their older computers into seedboxes

>>62109269
x220

How good is the screen on the x220 tablet? Is it better than the normal x220?

>>62107147
What laptop should I get besides Mac if I care about having a quality screen? I customized an XPS and was surprised it became nearly as expensive as a comparable MBP.

>>62110043

Do you want the best screen quality above all else?

How to get gestures/multi-touch trackpad controls in loonix?

>>62110083
>loonix
>hardware working as it should
lmao

>>62110077
No but it just can't be used Thinkpad level trash. I wanna watch movies and tv shows on it

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>>62110065
How good are the batteries for the Thinkpads? Used to own one and remembered it would get hot.Also was looking at other laptops if possible thoughts, thank you.

>>62110116
It is though. wangblows didn't support the mute button, while loonix does

Fell for the meme and bought an x200 tablet, need a battery. Who makes decent batteries? I read a few warnings not to trust chinkshit.

>>62110249
Is the touch thinkpad worth it? Looking into for some school stuff. In the long run I don't think i'd use it much.

>>62110430
No clue, it's still being shipped. I mostly got it so I can dick around and get comfortable with arch or gentoo and so I can read .pdf files easier than on my phone.
Also libreboot because it looks like a fun challenge to do.

>>62110465
Dope. I'll check out some reviews on youtube.

>>62110500
Check out the x220 tablet as well, comes with an i5 or i7 instead of the core 2 duo, I'll probably get one at some point. Only reason I went with the x200 is for libreboot and low cost.

>>62110566
Looking at that or the T420 or X240 not sure yet

My x230 ssd died and I had to wait a day to get a new one so I was using my lab's macbook air.

I don't think I want to go back to the shitty x230 screen resolution.

I came across a
>x200

for 50 bucks on ebay, it said that par of the AC adapter is missing, "you will need a 3 pron to charge it"

Is it a good buy?

>>62110043
>>62110129
bump

Oh hey an auction for a used thinkpad, and it's quite low right now with a day left WHY DON'T I BID HUNDREDS MORE
HAHA WHY DON'T I BID $5 LESS THAN THE OTHER LISTINGS THAT AREN'T AUCTIONS WITH THINKPADS IN BETTER CONDITION HAHA GONNA SAVE $5 SUCH A GOOD DEAL

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>>62110587
pls respond

>>62110767
yes

>>62110846
I've not looked into the t-series at all, I just fell for the thinkpad meme this last week. Only reason I went with the x-series is that they are the smallest/portable/netbook-type ones.

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>visit friend to watch a movie
>want to hook up my X230 to the TV
>realise I forgot my MiniDP to HDMI cable

Almost everything is perfect about this laptop but that port choice is Apple-tier bullshit. Why couldn't they put in a normal HDMI?

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>>62110919
Used to a 15.6 screen I'm not sure about a 12.5 one. The battery is a huge huge plus for me. Spec wise they look like more than enough for just surfing.

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>>62110974
So you're saying that the manufacturer has to pay to put in HDMI? Makes me think because not even the docking stations have HDMI.

I'd even appreciate a normal sized DP port.
Hell even the T530, which is a huge monster, has a MiniDP for no reason at all.

>>62109269
x220 is pretty small. if your requirements allow it you might get away using a X201s or a X61s, but those have gotten quite rare (and expensive)

>>62107391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMMZbsaT42Y

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>>62111040
DisplayPort seems to be the norm for professional areas.
Consumer shit like meme-smart TV's and consoles all use HDMI.

4k 30 fps on X230 for the cinematic experience :^)

Time to order more adapters from China.

Currently in Hong Kong, looking for a portable laptop for college, no games on this just work.

Would a x220 suffice?

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>>62111220

Sounds like an x220 would be perfect.

x220 vs x240

Is the track pad mouse really that much of a difference?

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>t440p
>literally perfect thinkpad
>no expresscard

>>62111264
Yeah. the trackpad with buttons is absolutely necessary. Fortunately for 20-30 bucks you can get a t450 trackpad and swap it out with the stock one on the x240

>>62111185
Also, most high quality DP outputs feature full support for VGA via a passive adapter

Is there any reason to buy a thinkpad new?

>>62111324
Lookin at model too. I can't decide.

>>62111329
Cool I didn't even think about that.I almost spent on a big box store laptop.

in 2011 I bought a x220 - best laptop I had imo
also I am an immense 7 row keyboard fag / really like the 2011 thinkpad keyboard layout
fast forward - its 2017 I need a new laptop but really hate the 'new' thinkpad keyboards
what do?

>>62111367
That's nice to hear. Why is the VGA port still a thing nowadays? I mean even the xx50 series ThinkPads still have a full-sized VGA port and I fail to see it's usefulness.

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>>62111661
Wait and see what the retro Thinkpad brings

>>62111700
it seems like lenovo retro will commit sudoku eg just a overpriced t470p with the old keyboard

>>62108481
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4xyxmt/51nbs_x320x330_coming_available_today_thread_4/

>>62111324
have you even seen the trackpad on 40 series models? they suck cow ass.

>>62111687
http://blog.router-switch.com/2013/04/how-to-connect-to-cisco-asa/

>>62107826

I'm not >>62107815 , but I have the Alienware screen on my t420

The models you want to look out for are:
LG LP140WD2 (TL)(G1)
AUO B140RTN02.1

The LG apparently has better viewing angles than the AUO, but it's rarer. I have the AUO panel and minus it's glossiness and slighly worse viewing angles, it's pretty comparable to the X220 IPS screen.

>>62111687
It's just a good fallback, almost all business projectors or low end monitors feature VGA, while the digital connection can be any of 3 different standards

Are the 12.5 screens for the x series too small or do you get used to it coming from a 15.6 screen

>>62112138
I've got two 15.6" screens, I do find the 12.1" screen of the x201s to be a little small but it's worth it for the overall compactness of the laptop as well as the weight saved

>>62112230
I'll have check out some chromebooks in person to see how the small screens feel. Thanks for your input man.

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Will my Thinkpad T450 be able to power 80 ohm headphones? I'm thinking of buying a Beyerdynamic DT770 pro 80. Should I get a headphone amp as well?

Was thinking of getting the thinkpad x1. only other thing that I'm considering is dell xps 13, I heard they can be faulty and unreliable does the X1 shit on the xps?

How bad is 1366x768?

>>62113072
very bad

What's the difference between the x220 and the x220 tablet in terms of quality? Is there any reason to choose the tablet of the normal edition?

Planning to use it for some light work/browsing/watching videos btw.

>>62110083
>trackpad

>>62109866
the tablet version comes with an IPS display meanwhile the normal version rarely does but you can upgrade the default TN screen to IPS anyway.

>>62113099
Also: how bad is the TN screen on the X220?

I can choose between two refurbished products:
- x220 / i5 / 8GB / 320GB 7200 RPM / TN Panel
- x220 / i7 / 8GB / 320GB 7200 RPM / IPS Panel

Price difference is about 70 euros (83 dollars).

>>62113202
>but you can upgrade the default TN screen to IPS anyway.

How easy/ difficult is this for someone who has never done this before? How much should I pay for an IPS panel at maximum?

>>62107147
god damn that thing looks sexy

>>62113072
Depends on the ppi

>>62108457
are you asking how to use the basic cut/paste capabilities of almost any image editor?

>>62113212
go i7 IPS, it has a USB 3.0 port and the IPS panel is worth it imo if you have the money.
>>62113099
tablet is comfy for drawfags but not comparable to any real tablets because weight, would go for Tablet if it isn't too much more than normal X220

>>62113212
I'd go for the IPS one because it's an i7 (still dual core so pretty much just a higher clocked i5) thus it should have usb 3.0.

>>62113220
Very, google "x220 hmm" and see for yourself.

>>62108457
how are you able to post

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>>62113299
>>62113288

Thanks for the advice bros, I appreciate it.
Was thinking about buying the X220 + i7 + IPS one myself. My local shop offers a refurbished one for 350 euros (which is about 415 dollars) which is certainly not the cheapest option, but since I'm a wagecuck I can afford it.

Should be in A/A+ condition though.

so if the T420 isn't getting a 1080p screen and it doesnt have USB 3.0 (but can be added through the expresscard slot, should I get one? the T420s doesn't have an upgradeable CPU, the T430s is still stupidly expensive here, the T520 could be perfect but the coreboot site doesn't say anything about expresscard support and there are some problems. should I get this or wait until the chinks tell us about a T420 upgrade kit? arigatêau

>>62113366
Look around more. I got an x220 with an i7 and 8GB for $120. Has a 128GB SSD as well. Just look for ones without an OS―people sell them for much cheaper. Then you can put linux on for free, or be a pleb and pirate windows.

>>62113451

I assume this is via Craigslist? I don't have that here. Cheapest+best I could find (local sites, ebay) was the x220 i7tablet refurbished with an 180 GB SSD for 260 euros (310 USD) .

>>62113379
I loved my T420 but still upgraded to a T440p eventually because i had enough of the awful 1600x900 TN screen viewing angles, however i never did the alienware screen mod because finding the exact display model instead of "compatible ones" over here is impossible.

>wait until the chinks tell us about a T420 upgrade kit?
Very unlikely. One was released like 2 years ago or something which had heavy flickering issues on some boards (there's a vid on YT) and nothing else came after that except for the x220/30 pepe fhd mod and a fhd mod for the t420s/30s (s-versions only).

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>mfw the X61s I've seen yesterday for 40$ is sold already
just

W530 or much cheaper T430 + eGPU for some light gaymes?

Where to buy Thinkpads without RAM and Storage? All I need built-in is a good CPU, not interested in paying astronomical prices for the courtesy of having RAM and a low end SSD preinstalled.

>>62107147
did anyone of you ever try to upgrade the pcie wifi card or the speakers? upgrading the wifi card should be pretty easy but I was wondering if I could do something about the speakers. the model is the X200 (laptop)

what's the usual lifetime of business laptops after which they got replaced? 3 years? 5 years? does it differ much between europe and usa?

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>>62113804
The max you could do is maybe put a X201's speakers into a X200, but good luck fitting it into the case (The motherboard of the X200 is bigger than the X201). The speakers are as standard as they get connection-wise internally, but there's close to no space at all in that little case. You're better off sticking with what you have unless you're willing to do an ass-load of literal hacking.

Also, Libreboot it if you haven't already.

>>62114196
guess I'll just upgrade the wifi pcie card alongside bluetooth and use bluetooth speakers when I'm at home. thanks for the libreboot tip, bookmarked

>>62114196
Soon to receive an X61, got any tips for it?

And no, can't libreboot it.

>>62108509
where do you buy let's notes?

>>62114079
pls respond

>someone is selling the X220 IPS screen and looks in perfect condition
>for like ~$10
Pretty weird taking into account that everything is twice the price in this third world shithole. I don't even have an X220 anyway.

>>62110974
probably but its useless if nothing supports it. normies do not have any hardware that supports it and most tvs still come with hdmi ports and some better models have vga/dvi too.

what's the best performing aftermarket heatsink/cooling option for a T510? it runs cool as ice right now but i have a quad-core coming in the mail soon and want to keep it from getting too warm

>>62114079
idk you'd probably want to upgrade after 3 years if you do a lot of process-intensive tasks

a quad-core at 2 ghz is more than enough for anything you could possibly want for probably the next 5 desu

>>62112764
probably but it will sound better with an external da/amp. i use dt990 250ohm on my x220 and it works but its not that loud and the bass is weak

>>62114079
>>62114677
I mean what's the usual corporate routine? At what age used business machines flood the secondhand market?

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>>62108457
1.Search google pictures "yuru yuri render"
Pick your favourite pic
-> right click copy

2.Open Microsoft Word and paste it Control+V

3.Search google pictures "thinkpad logo"
Pick your favourite pic
-> right click copy

4.Open Microsoft Word and paste it Control+V

5.Move it, till it looks good

6. Press on your Keyboard the print key

7.Open Paint

8.Control+V

9.crop it

10.Save as .jpg

>>62114710
cant be any more than 5 years

>>62110083
works by default at least on opensuse but i disabled them because they are annoying and do random things if you touch it from corners. i still dont know what triggers a paste command or previous page command from the touchpad.. it always happens when im reading something and accidentally touch the trackpad. they should document touchpad shortcuts or disable them by default if thats too hard.

>>62114731
But 3 years is also pretty common right?

>>62114715
why not just do all that from paint?

>>62114771
i guess. i see a lot of 2012-2014 era machines on ebay for ~100 usd (mostly hp)

>>62114795
is it still possible to get new(not used) parts for something like a x220? like keyboards fans screens

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>>62111995
>The LG apparently has better viewing angles than the AUO, but it's rarer. I have the AUO panel and minus it's glossiness and slighly worse viewing angles
I thought it was the other way around, with the AUO one being slightly better.

>Ask /g/ if a T440s (1080p """"""IPS"""""" display/8GB/Core i7 4600U/256GB SSD) for 350 shekels is a good buy
>everyone tells me to go for it
>Laptop turns out to be a complete meme with the shittiest display I have ever seen, a flimsy fucking keyboard and touchpad and 20 minutes of battery life.


Thanks, /g/.

>>62114880
>Core i7 4600U
>U
Straight into trash

>>62113220
To replace the screen? Pretty easy. You don't even have to take the motherboard out, you just take off some screws here and there and the screen will simply slide out.

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>>62114880
Here's a cute (You)

>>62114795
Thanks. Apparently my assumption that it's usually 3 to 5 years was right.

>>62113713
just a T430 depending how light your gaymes are

>>62114511
as long as you can use them
youll probably get bored and get something new when you get back your cash before your machine dies

>>62114995
Shit like Civ, Stellaris or XCOM. Nothing too new. I just can't affort a gayman PC for like a year and a thinkpad will come in handy even after I get the desktop.

>>62113657
Why didn't you buy it then?

>>62114414
Why the fuck not

>>62115058
I think you can get away with only using the igpu on those

you might wanna look up gameplay with the HD4000 (the igpu in the X230/T430 and other xx30 thinkpads)

>>62114715
>>62108457

Don't forget to make it your screen's aspect ratio then shrink it to 640x480 so it stretches back properly.

>>62114880
>he fell for what the newfags on /tpg/ said
lurk more

>>62115108
Dedicated weeb eroge machine thus need winshit.

>>62114715
>>62115129
thank

>>62115153
You can still Libreboot. Although I didn't on my XP machine.

>>62115153
99% of weeb eroge runs on WINE.

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>>62114880
> T440s
>s

>>62115186
Well yeah but i don't see the point in Librebooting if you're going to use Windows anyway.

>>62115192
Sengoku Rance and Figu@mate run like crap iirc and the weak processor doesn't help. I'll try anyway when it arrives since i run Debian on my main machine.

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>>62114794
>>62115129
Paint doesn't have Layer,in other words you can´t move the picturs arround,like you can in Word.
Furthermore if you copy the picture in paint and that´s a .png file without background it appeared in paint black,try it.

Outcome:

>>62115197
>>62114908
>>62114891
>>62115147


Why did you fuckers tell me to get T440s then? Literally everyone on /g/ told me to buy it (for 350 shekels) and no one said anything about the shitty viewing angles (IPS my ass) and the shitty keyboard/touchpad.
I can live with the shitty CPU, I knew what I signed up for, I needed a laptop with a 1080p screen for my bachelor's thesis, that was the main objective. I even sold my MacBook Air 11" to get the money to buy the ThinkPad. Granted, the ThinkPad is objectively better than the Macbook Air but goddammit I hate Linux and Windows so goddamn much and this shitty meme laptop just reminds me of why I bought a mac in the fucking first place.

Fuck Thinkpads, fuck Linsux, fuck Windows. Shoulda sold the Air, save up some extra money and buy a retina MBP.

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>>62115266
you don't need to.
If it wasn't a png, the background would have been better, I just used bucket fill here

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>>62115350

>>62115350
only newfags tell you to buy anything newer than xx30 lmao
lurk more

>>62115363
if it wasn't a jpg*

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is this a good laptop ?

>>62115350
>Why did you fuckers tell me to get T440s then?
you got trolled, nobody recommends the t440s and t440 seriously.

>shitty viewing angles
maybe you got one with a shit screen, post your screen model

why the fuck am i even replying to this bait anyway

>>62115350
the 40's are the worst ever produced, who told you to get one?
enjoy your meme machine though.

>>62115389
>U series CPU
>1366x768
Not really

>>62115363
Now make it flashable like >>62108225 without the colors going to shit, that's the tricky part.

>>62115433
ok any better laptops like that jp (light weight and doesnt have a celeron) ? all the thinkpads at this price range are heavy ?

>>62115389
>3rd gen ULV
no
>1366X768
>at 14"
in to the trash my man

>>62115475
whats wrong with the x series or the 2570p

>>62115475
>all the thinkpads at this price range are heavy ?
numales pls go

>>62115487
ok ok pls helb me im lost , i always had powerful rigs but now i need a laptop for college and i dont know shit about them : I want
>200-400 dollar price
>lightweight
>14 inch or smaller
>not a shitty spu and storage more than 100 gb

>>62115518
okay your options are X230 or a T430 depending on how lightweight you want it
you can install at least a 2.5" ssd plus a msata one in both but you can install an extra one in the T430
you can also install a quad core cpu in the T430 for hyper autism

>>62115518
this
>>62115564

i put a quad into my t430 and its breddy goob considering the price

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>>62115396
>maybe you got one with a shit screen, post your screen model
Apparently there's a T440s with an AUO display and one with an LG display. The latter is the one that apparently sucks, and this appears to be the one that is in my laptop.
>>62115399
>who told you to get one?
Like 10 anons on /g/. No one told me not to buy it.
>enjoy your meme machine though.

I would sell it but no one buys a used ThinkPad.

>>62115600
Im waiting on my dgpu cooler for to use my spare 3630qm

>>62115564
>>62115600
>windows 7 pro
fuck off

>>62115604
>Apparently there's a T440s with an AUO display and one with an LG display. The latter is the one that apparently sucks, and this appears to be the one that is in my laptop.
Pretty much, it's a t440, t440s and t440p thing. The AUO B140HAN01.3 is the decent one and it's very good.

>>62115637
and the LG one is literally worse than my MacBook Air's TN display.

>>62115629
>hes so incompetent he cant install a different os
I have Gentoo and Win 8.1 embedded on my T430
Lenovo supports win xp, 7, 8, 10 and dos officially
lmao@u fag

>>62115643
Either replace the screen or resell the laptop but if you're going to go *40 series either go x240 or t440p with the AUO screen, the others are shit.

>X230 can't detect 5G wifi
Literally the only downside right now. I'm on Windows 8.1 and ubuntu.
What's a good cheap dongle that would allow me to do this?
I saw this for $10
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7253MP0277&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Wireless+Adapters-_-9SIA7253MP0277&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn8Xep-331QIVwrrACh1tkwK9EAQYAyABEgK3tfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
but it says it only supports windows 10.

>>62115629
did u just blow in from stupid town

>>62115518
IMO get an x220/30/40
They're pretty light, they fit in your backpack and they look slick and clean.

>>62115604
some other sap might get it, just put out an ad.

The 40's are well known for not having mouse buttons and the build quality is very poor compared to 30 and 50

>>62107429
ye, its not that of a difference. tho, you can buy bios locked and computrace-enabled tp's for cheap and just coreboot them ;)

>>62115518
I bought my X220 for $100, added an 850 EVO, a 9-cell battery, and a stick of 8GB RAM, cost a total of ~$330 and is amazing.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on an X220. I have two questions though :\ Is $140 a good price for 4GB of RAM and an i5 2520M? And secondly, is the i5 2520M any good?

>>62114666
please respond

>>62115832
>Is $140 a good price for 4GB of RAM and an i5 2520M?
No idea, not a burger

>is the i5 2520M any good?
Yes it's perfectly fine, keep in mind that you won't be able to change it like in a T-series though.

I had a 9-cell in my X230 and was getting 10+ hours, when I put it in my X220 I only get 7 or so. Both on Windows 7 Enterprise for now. What's the issue?

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>>62115832
Thanks. I'm gonna pull the trigger on this. I WILL BE NICE AND SHARE.

https://www.porterelectronics.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-2-3ghz-i5/

Lenovo X220 i5-2520M 4GB RAM - $139.99

8GB is an extra $45.00, which brings it to $184.99 with that option. Win7 64-bit is a free update (I'm installing linux tho, but it'll be nice to at least have the product key). I'm going to spring for 8GB because I'll be upgrading anyway. This apparently is a one day sale. I don't like buying sight unseen but supposedly these are in "Grade A" condition, probably just sat at a desk most of the time before being retired.

Everything I've found that is this cheap is usually all fucked up looking, and this is backed by a 90 day warranty so fuck it, not a bad deal at all when you add it all up. Screen upgrade is next for me. Thanks >>62115854 !!

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>>62115444
Picture tools,my friend.
I figured out that Microsoft Powerpoint,canvas is better.

>>62107147
would Chromium OS run on an x201?
just need to get some files transfered off real quick

>>62116082
Oh, that's the one I cancelled my order from. Shipping is $8 and they apparently charged me for $170 so look out for that.

Don't get the 8GB, you'll be better served spending $50-60 on an 8GB stick and having 12 total.

>>62111122
I didn't realize this was a meme

>>62116134
Whew you caught me right before I was about to pull the trigger. And yeah that's not a bad idea. I don't mind the $8 shipping, still brings my total to around $150 which isn't bad at all. I'll post pics that'll show whether it's clean or not when it comes in I guess.

>>62116175
put a cute weeaboo bios logo on it when you get the x220

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>Niece is going to college, needs laptop
>Me, NEET and amateur ebay seller
>Tell niece and her mother "do not buy a laptop from wal-mart. They are very poor quality. Let me choose a laptop for her."
>this morning
>"anon come look"
>niece is at the table with a Lenovo Ideapad w/ 1.1ghz Pentium N4200 4gb ram and a 500gb hard drive, 1366x768 screen
>"how much did you pay for that"
>"300 dollars at wal-mart"

Every time. Every fuckin' time. I guess I should have just bought her a laptop and given to her, but I held off because I know her batshit crazy mom (my sister) would think I installed some kind of spyware software on there.

What $300 would have bought...

>>62116096
sure but why not a live cd?

>>62116208
wew

>>62116251
live usb, yeah
but now that i look at the chromium site, it looks like a pita to get used
Might just use centos instead

Where can I find a T440/50s with a dGPU?

>>62116304
They don't exist. Only the T440p, T460p, and T470p have dGPU options.

>>62116304
from someone who paid a lot to get a dgpu with their T440s/T450s in the first place if lenovo even offered something like that

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>>62116264
I guess she got the idea that Lenovo is good by using the Thinkpad T400 I have set up as a living room laptop for anyone to use. And she has seen me with my own X201.

Her mother probably thinks the Ideapad is good because it vaguely resembles a Macbook.

>>62116348
It's just a Facebook machine anyway, a Pentium is enough. I'm only mad about the price.

Anyone have a P71? How are they and how is Linux support for the Quadro P5000?

>>62114715
>>62114794
>why not just do all that from paint?
>>62115266
>>62115363
>>62116089
Anon, I know you have autism but use proper graphic software like paint.net or pirate PS CS6. It's not healthy for you to be doing this

>>62116367
She'll want to use it for more than Facebook. It's rather shitty even for that. Facebook is not a low-resource website.

She does play games and has already asked me about installing steam.

So what's the verdict regarding coil noise in ix-7xxxxU processors? I was gonna get a T470or L470 but I hear everyone saying that pretty much all of the new processors with U at the end make coil noise.

>new kaby lake R is 4c/8t
are we gonna see a flawless X1 carbon soon /g/uys??? i'm hyped

>>62116615
No computer is completely silent.

>>62115192
>actually unironically telling someone to run programs through a poor ass emulator on an already weak platform
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>62116723
Not him but my T420 with the fan turned off and SSD only is very close though. I like this thing.

>>62116665
prepare yourself for MOBILE HOUSEFIRES

>>62116333
They did a model in europe, it does exist afaik. I live in UK.

Although I love my x220, it's a bit awkward for coding with the 720p screen. So I'm looking for something with more screen real estate and a dGPU is so I can do some casual gaming on the go.

Open to suggestions.

Whats the verdict on the W series? I haven't looked them up much and don't have much knowledge of them. I currently have a x200 tablet and x220 tablet on the way but I'd like something a little bit bigger, as far as screen size goes. I saw a w510 on sale for what seems like a decent price but I don't know whether or not it's good.

What's the benefits(if there are any) of a W series over the X series?

>>62116795
ok

>>62116723
>>62116795
So this/these noise in varying degrees is normal for computers when they have their fans off & no HDD storage ? Annoyed me a fuckton desu, but then again I have tinnitus so I am probably more sensitive to that stuff
https://youtu.be/m5U8ERWNgd8

>>62113366
That is quite overpriced.
If USB 3.0 is the reason why you go for the i7 you can probably get a cheaper X230 with i5 and IPS

>>62116910
In practice it will be nowhere near as loud as that video implies.

>>62113804
>or the speakers?

I've actually though about buying some speakers off of parts express and seeing if I can get them to fit. It shouldn't be too hard to fabricate a mount for them out of polystyrene or balsa

>>62116979
But still present nonetheless?

>>62116910
My T420 does a similar sound for like a fraction of a second when taxing the SSD with writes (downloading a torrent or doing a ssd benchmark for example) but it's very faint and almost unnoticeable unless you're actively trying to hear it. Also it's intermittent, not continuous like in that video.

>>62111009
T420/X220 has a regular sized DP port

>>62114878

AUO has a better response time and somehow almost half the power consumption. Guess I'll be going with gloss

>>62116858
Non-soldered CPU's. Nvidia Quadro cards if you need it. Not sure if the W510 has an option for a Full-HD screen.

The lack of numlock makes it a no-go as mobile workstation at least to me. Keep that in mind.

>>62117027
A recent ASUS (not even once) with i7-7500U did it continuously - very audible with fans off. Increasing volume with increasing workload

>>62111324
Get L440 instead
>still has socketed cpu
>has same screen panel options so you can get a sexy 1080p IPS
>has an expresscard

Daily reminder that only virgins who think they're hackers for using Arch buy used thinkpads.
Daily reminder that people with normal sex lives buy a mac.

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>those trackpad "buttons"

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>>62117033

>>62111995
I still don't recommend searching by model on ebay though, because I ordered a B140RTN02.1 listing one and got some other model and had to return it

Instead I found the part number for the M14x R2 upper lid including screen and ordered that and it had the real B140RTN02.1 in it

>>62116789
Wine isn't an emulator you fucking retard.

>>62117059
Well if it's continuous and prone to increasing then that sounds really annoying.

As i said my T420 makes that noise only when taxing the SSD with writes, it stays silent otherwise of course until the CPU reaches the 60c point which i set up and then the fan starts until the temperature decreases.

>>62117055
the one I was looking at had an FHD screen so i'm happy about that. Also an i7. I've been getting used to no numpad so I'm also fine with that.

>>62116789
Name one demanding weeb game.

>>62117108
>using the trackpad

what ssd's you guys have for your x220s

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>>62107147
mfw when the A475 launches

>>62115679
>x240
Bad move
Only has single channel ram
Keyboard has reduced travel distance

>>62117226
how the fuck do you manage to mouseclick?

>>62117025
Just forget you ever heard it was an "issue". It's something autists with too much time on their hands worry about. You probably have a half dozen other sources of whine in your environment such as the DVR in your living room, for example. Do those bother you?

>>62117305
With the trackpoint buttons. What shitty model are you talking about?

>>62115697
Why dongle? There are several WLAN cards the X230 supports that supports dual band

Get one of these:
>Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 3x3
>Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 2x2
>Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6250 2x2 + WiMAX

All of these are dual band a/b/g/n

>>62117316
Yes and I don't have any noisy electronics except for a fan, which doesn't make unpleasant noises.

>>62117291
Yes but the 15w ulv processor will give you splendid battery life without being too shit for a small portable computer, assuming you want portability and battery life over everything else of course, otherwise get a T or W.

>>62116858
W series are the top of the line, standing above even the supposed flagship T series. Best CPUs, GPUs, screens, RAM capacity, and build quality in their generation. They're Thinkpads for people who don't believe in making compromises.

>>62117328
Oh, realized my mistake. my >>62117108
post forgot to reply to >>62117062

>>62115697
150mbps is slow
>>62117372's cards are 300mbps or 450mbps for the 3x3

>>62117393
Oh. Then yeah, it's shit.

>>62117108
>>62117393
So it's no different than T440p and just like that one you can swap with T450 trackpad to have buttons

>>62117393
>>62117108
>$15 T450 touchpad
boom fixed

>>62115658
>t430
>xp
does it really have drivers for all hardware that work in xp?

>>62117376
T440p has splendid battery life too
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-20AN-006VGE-Notebook.108423.0.html

>>62115697
did they change to a worse wifi card in the x230? the stock card in my x220 can do 5ghz wifi.

>>62117378
They're also fucking big and heavy

>people unironically recommending an L-series

how bad of an idea would it be if I were to install a cheap mini ssd thats about 60gb jn my t420 with debian on it? I hear small ssds are awful

>>62117444
There is no one "stock" wifi card
Both x220 and x230 had several options
Some supported dual band and some dont
Some have 3x3 antennas and some only 1x1

In fact I think the x220 and x230 had the exact same options

>>62113575
That's 90 euro less, shipping might punch into that but $310 way more reasonable than over $400

>>62117458
What makes T440p better?
L440 has an expresscard
I can't think of any reason on paper the T440p would be better other than the L440 having a thicker uglier bezel

Otherwise they have the same upgrade potential with CPU and screens

What's owning a t440p like? I mean it looks like you could easily bludgeon someone to death with it. But reading that notebookcheck review, assuming you do the trackpad swap it looks like a good buy. Battery bridge would be nice though, it sounds like a good feature.

>>62117465
pls respond before I buy a 32gb msata

>>62115475
Lift moar, fag.
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Laptop-X220-Touch-Tablet-i5-8gb-128GB-SSD-Windows-10-IPS-Charger-/272376264072
2520M > 3427U

>>62117465
It's fine for linux
Windows is where you need 128gb because windows is much bigger

>>62117522
>not recommending an X230T
It has an even faster cpu

Saw an offer for a W510 for ~$150 with a battery, 1 TB HDD, 10 GB RAM, and power adapter.

SHOULD I GET IT YAY OR NAY???

>>62117488
Traditional ThinkPad invincibility.

>>62117550
sweet, will this work in my t420 and give me a noticeable speed increase?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321864740303

If my thinkpad is booting like normal but suddenly shutting off or going into a black screen is this most likely a thermal problem?

It's acting the same way on both battery and power. It's has custom init firmware (libreboot) so not sure if that has something to do with it

>>62117621
Probably
I would get a 64GB one though
Keep in mind on SSDs you need to keep 10%-20% of it free otherwise it gets slower

>>62117570
>x230t
>ever
1. No.
2. NO.

>>62117657
It is more likely that a bunch of NEETs in basements are worse at coding BIOS than professional engineers

>>62117657
Probably a fan error or something.

>>62117665
Name a single drawback other than the keyboard and battery DRM (as both are fixable)

>>62117465
The thing is that smaller ssds will be slower and degrade quicker, but still way better response than a typical HDD. Also leave some unformatted space as >>62117662 said.

>>62117686
ah. That could be likely. Does the fan unit simply fry and need to be replaced? I guess taking apart and booting (comparing it to normal behavior) would be the fastest way to find out

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>>62117493
>What's owning a t440p like?
feels cool man

>>62117488
I would guess T440p has much better cooling as it was designed for quadcores stock unlike L440

Seriously look at these fucking numbers >>62117752

>>62117698
Lowered Durability
Having to modify your newer system with older hardware to achieve the level of kino of the older system.

I have an x250 with the i7 5600U, 8GBs of RAM and 768 IPS display. Is there anything I could upgrade or anything worth upgrading? Maybe I could get one of these big batteries, but I don't know if these exists for that model.
I don't think a 1080 screen would be really good since it's a fucking 12" screen, and it would drain more battery.

I have used it just for light gaming at work and taking notes and editing documents, nothing an i3 wouldn't handle.

>>62117801
>Lowered Durability
The cases are exactly the same except for the DP area (it has a mini DP instead of DP)

>Having to modify your newer system with older hardware to achieve the level of kino of the older system.
Resulting in a higher level of kino than was possible in the older system (due to faster cpu, better power/battery efficiency, much betetr iGPU, and more/any USB3.0 ports)

To people using eGPUs - what adapters are you using?

>>62117845
GDC Beast with an X230 and GTX 970

>>62117862
does the dual core bottleneck hard?

>>62117752
Tell me more. Do you carry it around? Is the screen nice? Battery life? Gaem?

>>62117933
I've never really checked
All I know is I can maintain 60+ FPS in Doom 4 so that's all I care

>>62117862
Can you use that with the X220?

>>62117974
Well can't give you a full review for now because mine is in the most basic and plebeian configuration, still waiting for upgrades as i said here >>62104603 and i guess it'll be an entirely different thing by then.

>Do you carry it around?
Yes, it's my main computer and use it docked with extra monitors when i come home.
>Is the screen nice?
No it's crap but as i said this is the 1366x768 low end TN shit, still waiting for the good AUO IPS one to arrive.
>Battery life?
Like 2-2.5 hrs tops but it's a 6-cell with 618 discharge cycles on it, waiting for the new 9-cell to arrive.
>Gaem?
Dunno i don't play videogames but i don't think the HD4600 would be that bad for low/mid end games. There's also a dGPU model if you're into that.

is this one good guys? been researching but im a noob
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-PRO-2-5-Inch-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LMXBOP4?th=1

>>62117421
see for yourself
http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/tr/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t430/downloads
(yes it does)

>>62118289
yes

the msata costs about the same if you want to do an msata + storage hdd setup

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>>62114481
if buying used, yahoo auction with proxy

>>62116597
How old is your niece? :^)

>>62118018
That's pretty fucking good. Rip n' tear, my man.

Look what beauty i've found!
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/d/lenovo-ibm-thinkpad-w701ds-2500-2xu-i7-940xm-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17-10-6-zusatzschirm-digitizer-win-10-pro-top-zustand-extrem-selten-217107601/

I'm looking at an x220 tablet on ebay with a i7 2620M. How do I figure out if it has the multi touch display or the stylus only display?

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>>62119009
no fuckin way desu

I'm looking for a pc screen, in France with €500 budget, that can last

Does T420 have HDMI port?

>>62119193
and how is that related to memepads

>>62119195
No, only VGA and Displayport. The docking station also has a DVI port.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-12-5in-Win10-180GB-SSD-Core-i7-2-7GHz-8GB-Touch-Screen-/152677932577?epid=118358191&hash=item238c505e21:g:-fUAAOSwGdhZn06P&autorefresh=true

Got this for 220 with shipping, did I dun good /tpg/?

>>62119224
yo just give me model or a brand

>>62119294
sent :)

>>62107147
New thread:
>>62119374

>Buying a ThinkPad from eBay is cheaper than buying one locally, even after the $50 dollar shipping price
wew lad

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>>62119305

>>62119396
i know that feel fellow third world bro

T420 is breddy gud, right?

>>62119432
yes

Why does my 9-cell battery get 10 hours on my X230 but only 7 on my X220?

>>62119009
Never knew that existed, pretty fuckin' neato

>>62119654
Architectural improvements on Ivybridge would be my guess.

The next point to look at after that would be your software set up which will obviously cause differing power draws machine to machine based on what resources you routinely run.

>>62119654
Incidentally, which machine do you prefer?

>>62107147

X61 - $150
- Core2 Duo @ 2.1 GHz
- 80 GB HDD
- 2GB RAM

Yes or No?

>>62119396
i feel you buddy