/pcbg/ - PC building general

r8 and h8 my first budget build. I know it's shit but the prices in canada are pretty high. I do plan on getting a better CPU and GPU in the future.

>Ryzen 1300x
>MSI B350 Tomahawk
>GTX 1050 Ti 4gb
> 2 x 4gb ram @ 2400
>Seasonic 520w

>>62071268
Get non-X ryzens and OC them. Take one stick of 8gb ~3000mhz for future expandability. Buy a cheaper mobo like b350m pro-vdh, it has the same vrm as more expensive ones.

>>62071268
Also try to squeeze in a gtx 1060 6g and you wont need to upgrade so soon.

My old PC broke. I know that both Motherboard and GPU are broken but I am unsure about the rest.
I have around 320€ left to buy either a GTX 1060 3GB and a new PSU (EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G3) or I run the risk that it was my old PSU's fault and buy a GTX 1060 6GB and keep using my old PSU.
Also for more information a 6GB would cost around 100-150€ more than a 3Gb version. I am not very experienced but I doubt that the 100€ are even worth it for the GPU upgrade not factoring in the risk I would take. Still I would like some other opinions on this.

>>62071332
Can you not OC the x series?

>>62071364
I've already bought my 1050 Ti. If it lasts me a few months, I'll be happy. I'll pick up a 1060 6gb when a sale hits (if a sale ever hits)

>>62071268
>>62071332
>>62071364
>>62071438
Actually desu, I have all those pieces on order but they haven't arrived yet. Should I just return my 1300x and 1050ti and pony up the money for a r5 1600 with 1060 6gb?

Just finished putting together my Ryzen 5 build
It seems to be working perfectly, except when I go to download large files from the internet, my computer will lock up partway through, then restart
I thought maybe my M.2 SSD was overheating/faulty and re-installed Windows on a standard platter drive, but it's still happening

Pls halp

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Should I upgrade the SSD? Like this I'm on the limit of what I was willing to spend

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>Crypto-miners are chewing through the 1080 Tis and 1050 Tis now

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did I do gud

>>62071700
Yes. It's the best value/performance combo

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>>62072275
CPU is at 4.8GHz, GPU is at 2.1GHz
Here's the SSDs

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>>62072095

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Just paid 600 Canadian rupees for a GTX 1070 because I couldn't fucking wait and had my build ready. I'll regret this when they'll revert back to 450-500. In a few months

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>>62072307

>>62072315
>bought my dual-fan 1070 for $380
>It'll be one year old in a few weeks
I was hesitant to spend the extra money over a 1060 last year but I'm damn glad I did

>>62072341
That's $475 canadollars
Jesus Christ Canada what happened

>>62072315
Do you actually think they will go down in price? I also live in Canada and have been holding off because they're very unaffordable.

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>>62072297
>tfw Canadian
>r5 1600 is $270
>1060 6gb is $400

>>62072597
Just camp outside of a store with a baseball bat.

Hey im the gtx 1080 windforce guy. Did anyone answer my question in previous thread?

I was wondering how much performance im missing out on by buying first batch 1080 and not spitting out more for a newer card.

>>62072733
You have a 1080 with adequate cooling
You aren't missing anything
Except a 1080ti

>>62072733
>spitting out more for a newer card
What?
It's the same GPU, a different dual-fan cooler (not newer) won't make THAT much of a difference. Now blower card vs dual fan that's an argument, but you already have one of the best priced dual-fan models
Go buy some water blocks and set up a real GPU cooling system

>>62072839
Its actually triple fan.
Gigabyte gtx 1080 windforce 3x OC is the full name.

>>62072944
Oh I thought you meant Gigabyte GTX 1080 windforce OC
Which is what I have
Why did you get a budget-oriented lineup and then choose the card that costs as much as MSI or something

>>62072092
>>62072092
>>62072092
Reinforcing my post - want to get it done

>>62071438
AMD isn't arbitrarily locking overclocking behind X series and premium motherboards. X just means it was binned higher which translates to higher potential clocks but we're talking sub 200mhz at best.

>>62073057
This was cheapest card in my country, cost me 450 euroshekels.

I want to do custom watercooling with the goal of it being as quiet as possible. Which pump is quieter, D5 or DDC? I'd get the PWM version for either.

for better or worse I just bought everything on this list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/wMgXsY/modest-gaming-build

The info on shipping prices wasn't too accurate and in fact I had to pay $28 to ship the case for some stupid reason. Could anyone tell me what small upgrades I might want down the line? I know it doesn't have a ssd or GPU so thats somewhere to start. Probably more on the ssd from the small bit of knowledge I have gleamed the few days I looked into this subject. Also is there anything else I need (besides an OS) to play muh vidya? Also could anyone recommend some similarly budget/quality monitors?

>>62071785
Sounds like faulty RAM

>>62073501
SSD would be a good start.
Any quality TN panel for 200 would do fine. Research.

>>62072597
>>62072315
>>62072095
>>62071364
unpopular opinion time
everyone is really upset about prices and i get it, i really do. its the principle of it and the idea of the MSRP being so throughly raped by the retailers is nuts, but you gotta think guys, the 580 is basically a bit faster than a 290x. The 290x and 390x had a msrp of 549 fucking dollars, so even for 350 its still a better bargain. And yes i know prices came down eventually, but dont forget that they also rose all the waay to 900+, compared to the 300+ we're seeing now. It's a lot better now than it was before, same goes for nvidia.
beyond that, NO ONE is stopping you from overpaying for a card, and mining yourself to offset the diffrerence. My buddy had his old 290x mining while he was in class and asleep since decemberish of last year, and he just converted his earnings into a free upgrade to a 1700, 1080ti, 32gb build with over 1tb of ssd storage space. if you cant beat them, join them, there's no reason to bitch about the prices because of miners if you're too lazy to mine yourself and recoup some of the costs
t.someone who's mined on their personal rig since 2012, and has had plenty of free upgrades

>>62073501
pretty sure you're buying a used HDD (worn out by servers) if you purchase that off amazon third party

Anything against the ASUS VS248HR monitor?

Does anyone know anything about how Newegg combos work? I am seeing this mobo + rx580 combo that looks well priced and I was planning on the mobo anyways but I don't want to order it and find out that the gpu in the combo is going to take another 3 months to get to me.

nas build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QZtJLD

plus a flash drive for os

>>62073927
You're good

I'm having trouble with my motherboard, it works fine but it won't detect my gpu, its an MSIZ270-A PRO. the problem is, is that the gpu is visibly running fine but my mb is not detecting it, I've tried with 2 different graphics cards but I'm still having the same problem, is my mb gpu slots fucked, or am I doing something wrong?

So whats thew deal with the 1060 3gb being aids again?

>>62074289
If it is not detecting your GPU, how are getting a display on your monitor? Please don't tell me you plugged your monitor into your iGPU instead of your GPU.

Which pairs better with a 1050 Ti; R3 1300x or R5 1400?

>500gb M.2 is 100e more expensive than normal SSD

Aahaha, I'll just deal with the wires.

I'll upgrade my 22 inch monitor but I don't know if I should go for 27'/1440p@60hz or 24'/1080p@144hz. I'm poor and can't afford a monitor that has both since it costs twice as much.
Furthermore, I don't think my r9 390 can handle an upgrade on both ends.

So, what should I go for if I play every games out of every genre, unless it's a movie game like witcher 3 or assassins creed?

[spoiler]Bonus points if you can help me out regarding TN/IPS[/spoiler]
[spoiler]spoiler pls work :^([/spoiler]

>>62074500
>[spoiler]Bonus points if you can help me out regarding TN/IPS[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]spoiler pls work :^([/spoiler]
I knew it, fuck

Am I completely retarded or does this not say anything about room for optical drives?
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/focus-series/focus-g-mini

>>62074524

Well, you can see there are two 5.25" drive bays in the picture and the details mentioned using a 240mm radiator in the front requires the bottom 5.25" to be unoccupied

>>62074352
forgot about that, it doesn't display anything when I connect it to my monitor, yeah I plugged it into my igpu instead

>>62074582
Does it show up on your device manager?

Is 1.428 a fine voltage for Ryzen? I am running on the stock cooler at 3.9 GHz. Any lower volts crashes. I am idling at 45C. I am just a little afraid to push it any more

>>62072275
Winfag
Slit your wrists.

>>62071230

which nvidia GPUs are compatible with their "auto calibrate" options

also according to /g/'s logical instruments the 1030 is listed just 1 tier below the PS4 original GPU and several tiers above the original Xbox One GPU, meaning it should be on par with current 1080p(or 900p) console GPUs

the card only costs like $70 so is this true that you can run every game at console levels with this card?

dont tell me "but a 1060 will run it better" i know this shit

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>>62074625
never mind, I forgot to disable onboard graphics

>>62074681
Card power doesn't not automatically translate to performance. Often times PC ports require higher performance cards for a large of reasons like poor porting, shody optimization etc.

>>62074720
Amazing.

>>62074736

what about the part about the cards that support the nvidia auto calibrate software

>>62074795
>nvidia auto calibrate software
Never heard of this shit before. What is it?

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It werks.

>>62074720

Zawa zawa

Does ram speed matter, don't really know much about this shit.

>>62074835
death to libreboot

>>62074855
Yes for Ryzen.

>>62074876
Im using an i5 6600k.

>>62074835
what is this shitcube

7700k worth it at $300 as an upgrade over the 6600k?

>>62074524
Speaking of that case.
If I were to take this build
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/guide/wMgXsY/modest-gaming-build
And change the mini case to the full sized version would that cause any problems?

>>62074822

>never heard

you're supposed to be fucking pcbg

its some fucking software that only nvidia has which will auto adjust the settings in any game based on your hardware so you get optimal performance

>>62074920
I never got the point of mini cases.

>>62074972
Oh you mean the garbage that comes with Geforce experience? Yeah. I don't use that. Why the fuck would you use that when you have a good pair of eyes and can do your own manual tweaking.

How much worse are blower 1070s compared to fan? If I can get a good deal on an MSI Aero should I go for it?

>>62074896
My computer.

>>62075000
They are slightly louder and hotter, but still perfectly usable. Just don't even try to overclock them.

>>62075000
Blowers fans are almost always a bad idea.

>>62074991

to not waste time and just boot the game

>>62073939
i assume you dont want zfs
other that that looks good. im not a fan of cube cases so you could look at changing that. I would change the hdd to hgst nas though, they're about 60 bucks cheaper at least state side, idk about where you are

Is the corsair 600w cx better than the evga 600w bq

>>62075022

i would still have my 775 8600 quadcore but the RAM was staring to go and ddr2 was expensive as fuck and it was cheaper to just upgrade to haswel at the time, the on board graphics were shit tho and the main cause of my need to upgrade, so i would also need a GPU

>>62075133
>5-10 minutes of manual tweaking is so hard
>I rather have a software generalize what I deem is "good"
You are a fucking moron. You know that right?

>>62074414
you shouldn't ever consider the 1300x. either get a 1200 and overclock or a 1400 and overclock
>>62074659
iirc thats above the "safe overclock" voltage amd recommends
>stock cooler
oh shit anon what are you doing, thats way too much voltage for that holy fuck

Good sites to find used cards?

>>62075194
ebay, craigslist, letgo, facebook markets, forums of your chosing in the buy/sell/trade category

>>62075159

i dont need to spend an hour totalbiscuiting a fucking game or looking up which 1-2 autistic
MXFAXXAAAA 16.2X settings cause the frames to drop more than others and dont actually do shit visually noticable

on the flipside which GPU will run AAA games at max/ultra at 900p without issue paired with the 4600

>>62075219
>An hour
God you are so fucking dumb. Go back to consoles. PCs don't suit you if you think optimizing settings takes an hour and it is autistic.

Seems like you want to be spoonfed like a babby. Go back to consoles. I heard XboneX is coming soon. Perfect for retards like you.

>>62075219
>an hour
It's "a" hour

>>62075219
If you think changing anti aliasing and shadows takes an hour then you should look at Xbox One X for that sweet totally real 4k.

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Can anyone recommend the absolute cheapest SSD I can get my hands on? I just need a super small one for a boot drive.

I see there are now Chinese brands selling them on eBay, like 'Drevo', 'KingFast' and 'KingSpec', are these worth a look or is it not worth the risk? Ones by Kingston and Crucial don't seem to be much more expensive.

>>62075717
chinese brand kingdian is a safe bet. iirc they make a 32gb, maybe even a 16gb

>>62075717

go to pcpartpicker and sort by price for SSDs

Please r8 and give advice. Will be using it for live music recording
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ncgwBP

>>62075768
You don't need a X370.
You will need more storage if you are doing music recording. And consider a DAC.

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>>62075717

>>62075418
you fucking what mate

>>62075786
Why not an x370? Whats a DAC. im a complete novice.

>>62075835
Why do you need a X370 over a B350?
Do you need the extra PCIE lanes that the X370.

DAC = Digital to Analog Converter.
How can you do music recording and not know this?

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>>62075746
>>62075756
Any reason to not get this?

Is there any need for a DAC if my mobo connects to a decent stereo reciever?

>>62075835
>live music recording
>doesnt know what a dac is
soundcloud rap faggot confirmed

>>62075877
Tight on space, depends on what you plan on using it for

>>62075921
Just this.

>>62075717

All the other drives at that price are either 16GB or from China.

>>62075903
Digital signal needs to get converted to Analog signal aka Sound waves regardless. If you don't have a DAC, then your motherboard is doing the Digital to Analog conversion. If the conversion is bad, then it doesn't matter if your reciever is good or not. For 90% of the population, onboard audio is enough. 10% are the audiophiles and people doing sound production.

>>62075855
>>62075915
Fuck you im no nigger. I play guitar through a fucking halfstack and have never recorded on a pc..i told you i was a novice you faggy pretentious bastards. Thanks anyways tho senpai desu

>>62075768
>>62075786

he also doesnt need a 1050

the 1030 will be more than enough, you can save enough more if you get a cheaper case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DbV6wV

>>62075855
Also i was just going for the higher quality one and was hoping it would take longer to upgrade.

>>62075968
Higher quality mobo has no bearing on upgrade unless you buy bottom quality ones. You upgrade when your socket is outdated for whatever CPU you are upgrading to.

>>62075965
I was intially thinking of that video card but everyone kept saying to spend the extra for the 1050...

>>62075939
So the ku$h real niBBa flow would be mobo->DAC->reciever->speakers?

>>62075981
I see thanks. So what would be any advantage of the taichi?

>>62075877

no, you can get a 120 CS1311 which is the fastest SSD right now for just 10 dollars more

60 wont be good enough for a windows install you'll be close to max in no time after all the updates are installed, 120+ should be the minium, even with 99% of shit today being streaming


https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/RzfmP6/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1311120rb

>>62075903
Also ill be using an audio interface to record as well if that matters.

>>62075986
https://www.stereophile.com/content/high-end-av-receiver-vs-external-dac-stereo-amp

>>62075994
SLI and Xfire.
Or if you need the extra PCI-E lanes for stuff. Capture card. Sound card. Network card. Etc

>>62075998
>60 wont be good enough for a windows install you'll be close to max in no time after all the updates are installed
Holy shit really? I thought a Windows install was sub-30GB for certain.

is B350 that necessary? can I get away with A320 if I'm doing single-GPU? (1500x, 1050ti 4gb, 8gb, 1080p gaymen and some streaming on the side)

>>62076016
I think ill sticl with the taichi. I mean i already spent enough on my guitar and amp to justify getting a pc thats just as good

>>62076040
A320 doesn't have overclocking.

>>62076042
>Ask for advice
>Ignores it
Nani

>>62076061
Well dont the other mobos have inferior components. I know enough to know that a capacitor in an amp can make it sound a certain way depending on the usual variables. So i am assuming the quality in the components have an effect on overall sound quality.. I guess i just want to be a perfectionist with my music. Will that stuff fit that case?

>>62076101
Quality of the motherboard will have zero baring on the performance of a computer outside of the addition features and overclocking which you don't need.

>>62076021

all i konw is i did a fresh install and noticed the total space was much closer to 60 than i was comfortable with, so i doubled it with 120

>>62076128
So then why is there a differentiation in quality and sourcing of parts. ( black japanese caps )

I'm getting an i7-7700k to play arma 3.
Need a good cheaper mobo that has good memory oc capabilities.
I have most the parts except cooler, and maybe a possible upgrade to a gtx 1080. Right now am needing a good mobo for cpu, and ram overclocking.

>>62076176
Again nothing to do with the model of the mobo (X370 vs B350).

>>62076200
So the b350 has the exact same components?

>>62076209
Of course not. They have different features. If you are asking about the quality of the components, if you are buying a good brand, they should be similar.

>>62076220
Nah youre a dumbass i just checked. You dont know what youre talking about when it comes to audio. Mobos have different traits depending on components

>>62076258
Mobo components have nothing to do with audio you fucking retard. Most of them use the same onboard chip made by Realtek anyway if you are relying on onboard sound. It is not like higher quality components will gives you nicer sounding 1s or 0s.

Do you understand that you imbecile? Any audio produced by your PC is inherently 1s or 0s. What produces good analog is down to what you use to convert those 1s and 0s to analog sound waves which is why i recommended a DAC.

You want to prance around like a twat and ignore advices? Don't post here in the first place. Don't come in here ask for help and then don't know basic shit like DAC relevant to what you are doing and then start calling people dumbass because you "checked". You should have "checked" that shit hours ago before posting your shit ass opinions here.

I post a lot on /pcbg/ and while I see dumb shit all the time, I rarely get mad. But it takes a special kind of fucking idiot like you to get on my nerves. You think a X370 motherboard is going to give you better sounds 1s and 0s? Be my guest. Go buy one. I am not the one wasting money here.

>>62076199
>I'm getting an i7-7700k to play arma 3.
No you're not. Just wait four weeks and buy Coffee Lake. Baby Lake is a dead platform.

>>62076350
>dead
will it oc like the 7700k?

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>>62076258
>2017
>falling for SUPERIOR JAPANESE AUDIO CAPACITORS, 1000 TIMES FOLDED meme

Gonna have some money into my account next week. Shoukd i wait for the 8700k or go with a Ryzen 5/7 build?
Mainly gonna be used for gaming bit i do plan on doing video editing and maybe streaming so having 2+ extra cores over the 7700k would be good. Has the release date for the 8700k been pushed back or what?

>>62076350
I'm getting impatient, because I just dled the latest updates, and i'm still on an fx cpu.

>>62076370
If you are doing anything processor heavy outside of gaming, Ryzen is superior.

>>62076376
>he cant wait 4 weeks for 50% extra cores
>the first time intel has added cores to a mainstream platform since 2009
Beyond saving.

>>62076389
>extra cores
I didn't know this. I'll be waiting. Thanks for the heads up.

>>62076366
They used to be better before china stole the secrets of superior japanese caps. it was a major deal back in the early 2000's.

>>62076410
Yeah, the i5 is going to be 6c/6t, i7 is going to be 6c/12t. I think the base-clock is somewhere around 4.4Ghz or something, so with any luck it should OC to similar levels as Baby Lake. In theory, it's just going to be a 6-core Baby Lake, it's definitely worth waiting for.

Help me to choose between the gtx 970 and the 1060 3gb. Both cost around the same. If I stretch the budget to get a better cars I'd have to cut down on the cpu, which I don't want to.

>>62076508
The latter. Or just cut it down to a 1050ti and save the money.

>>62076508
1060 3GB is shit unless you're at 1080p.

Just don't buy a 970 at all unless you want people to berate you on the internet.

>>62076319
So if im using an audio interface i should be covered right?
So whats this? And where do the differences come from. You should know since.youre not a dumbass and all.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1626661/amd-ryzen-audio-production-dpc

>>62076518
Currently I'm on an R9 280, so that would be more of a sidegrade.
>>62076524
I'm at 1080p though.

>>62076546
Keep the R9 280 and save a little more fora 1060.

>>62076456
But it's going to cost more than a 1700, maybe even more than an 1800x, and the single threading meme is jeopardized

>>62076531
>Intel vs AMD
>Different CPU
>DPC which is about driver efficiency of your OS
>DPC latency which isn't even Audio Quality
>Motherboard quality will increase Windows performance :^)
Noose. Ceiling. Neck.

>>62076551
Can't really save up efficiently, as I'm only a student, working during the summer and I don't have much time during the year since I have to study a shitton. Also I plan to sell my old configuration to a friend, I'd only be able to buy a new one like that.

>>62076546
280 to 970 or 1060 is already a sidegrade, don't waste your time. If you want an upgrade eBay your current card for a 290X or something.

>>62076626
What is the price difference between a 1060 3GB and 6GB? Is it that much you can't save it?

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Hey /g/. I'm needing a computer around
this price point ($800). This is what I came up with (I don't need a storage drive. I have one and will use it until I upgrade it.) is there anything that I can improve on here? I'm not OCing and I don't do anything too intensive with it besides running a 34'' 1080p monitor and a few light video games, but I want something that can handle more if I decided to use more, you know?

First pc I' lol have built, so newbie tips are welcome, but I've done a lot of lurking and research elsewhere. Anything is appreciated, though.

need a large capacity (>400GB) ssd for my laptop (2.5")
are cruicial drives OK or are there better ones?
I care more about performance than cost

>>62076722
PSU is a bust. Change it. The CX line of Corsair are garbage.

>>62076722
>corsair cx
I hope you enjoy smoke inhalation.

>>62076738
>>62076746
Changed it to an EVGA Supernova NEX 650W. That better? Put me slightly over price point, but I think I'll manage.

>>62076722
Post link to build

>>62076756
Yeah. That is fine.

>>62076624
Cringe.

>>62076765
The image there is literally it, but okay. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpnHHN

>>62074984
Real compact shit sure but look at this
https://youtu.be/faqTcFPVb78

>>62076722
>>62076775
First you buy a shitty psu and now you go overboard with it, anon please. 550W psu is enough.

>>62076871
So, the EVGA SuperNOVA 550W is what I've got now. Any other complaints?

>>62076871
Head room is always cool. I always suggest a 650W psu because you can carry it onto your next build and it will suffice for any single GPU build as long as the GPU isn't AMD power hungry.

>>62076734
>I care more about performance than cost
Then crucial is not for you. Go with Samsung.

I'm having problem with my GPU.
One of fans started to make unpleasant rattling noises. It doesn't seem to touch any plastic parts. Had similar problem 2 years ago, but all I had to do back then was to unscrew one screw (and it was different fan, it still works quietly). Any suggestions?

Also is it safe to potentially unplug that one fan? It's Windforce with 3 fans.

>>62076886
Nope, you're set.

>>62076908
RMA. Don't mess with it otherwise you might void the warranty,

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8NTBKZ
This is $1k where I live. I'm upgrading from a sandy bridge i5+GTX630 laptop. Literally my first PC build in a decade.

>>62076915
Yeah, but it's ass old HD7950. Not going to upgrade just yet when prices are so high.

>>62076943
Probably wore out ball bearings then. Yeah take it apart and see what you can do. Just don't be surprised if it doesn't work when you put it together again.

>>62076917
>Corsair - CXM
No

>>62076963
Is Seasonic good? They don't ship EVGA stuff into my country

>>62076978
Seasonic is probably the best PSU brand

>>62071230
friendly XFX reminder
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xfx+rx480+buildzoid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWASNajSdpg

B stock FTW 1080s for $499 on evga site RN. worth it?

>>62077045
Yes.

>>62075138
probs be in ext4. i just wish more mitx boards had 6 sata ports because i dont care for wifi. maybe ill change the case, its difficult to find mitx cases that support 6 discs because i will eventually be expanding

>>62076651
Around 130 usd.

What's the best 1060 6gb model(s)?

>>62077480
Cheap ones.

Anyone got recommendations for AIO cooling? Looking to OC a housefire 7700k. I would just go Noctua but
>heavy
>ugly
>bulky

Custom loop shit is intriguing but im not about that life given the price that goes along with it.

lads ive got a sapphire nitro 8gb rx480
im looking at getting this
ASUS MG279Q

i generally dont play too graphically intensive games, mostly stick to dota and indie shit

thoughts?

>>62077523
you could probably run lower spec games at 144hz and 2560x1440
anything more intensive and you should get a 1080p instead

>>62077508
NZXT Kraken X62 or Corsair H100i v2

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I ran out of toothpaste, what should I do?

>>62077597
Use mayo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HdRJLD
esports build
freesync ips
$550

>>62077597
use jizz

>>62074322
3gb is a low amount of vram now, and it's a gimped version of the 1060 6gb (not just in vram but the actual gpu is less powerful). They shouldn't have the same name really.

>>62077597

Sugar cane

>>62074500
144hz is only worth it for competitive games, and even then probably only for first person shooters. If you play a lot of that, go for 144. If you play mainly single player games, don't bother.

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>>62077597

>>62074659
People usually recommend 1.35 on stock cooler, 1.45 with aftermarket. What are your temperatures like on burn?

>>62074894
It still matters but not as much. Get 3200 if you can.

>>62075141
No, the corsair cx are not great.

>>62076722
If you can get 3200 or 3000 ram it would be better. And you've already been told about the psu. Other than that it's looking good.

>>62077649
>Esports
>No ssd
>Cheapo mouse and keyboard
>Speaker
What are you doing anon

1080ti or wait for Volta?

>>62077523
don't do it. rx 480 is not going to power a 1440p/144hz monitor well. sure you can set settings to low but it wont be a good experience.
don't make a stupid purchase decision and just buy a 1080p/144hz freesync monitor.
t. someone who is literally downgrading from 1440p/144hz

>>62077874
1080ti

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>get graphics cards shipped to me for free due to mix up at the company
>customs has held them and probably wants me to pay tax, which is fine
>chances are they will contact the company for my info and end up returning them due to the mistake

>>62076531
>http://www.overclock.net/t/1626661/amd-ryzen-audio-production-dpc
>Ryzen 1700..... non x @ 3.2GHZ STOCK and tested on out of the box bios 16GB 2133Mhz ddr4
>2133Mhz ddr4

BEGONE

Is Inno3D iChill GTX 1060 6gb X3 V2 a good card? It's the cheapest I can get locally and has a massive cooler, but the shortest warranty (2 years instead of 3 on all other cards)

>>62077874
Volta was pushed back for next year because Vega a shit and too expensive for consumers to manufacture.

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>Spend weeks researching mid-cases
>Determined to keep 5.25" accessible
>Finally rebuild PC in the old case
>Realize how much fucking room it takes up
>Start pondering this instead

>>62078068
how often do you use an optical drive? If the answer is less than once a month, you can get an usb one and keep it in a closet, and get it out when you need it.

I feel like my aging GPU is about to crap out. What can I get for around $400 if eventually I'd like to go Ryzen 1600x? Is GTX 980 Ti still a viable choice? It's quite a bit cheaper than GTX 1070. What are AMD's alternatives, should I try to survive until Vega 56?

>>62078114
980ti is a great option, especially if you can pick one up for around 300. Overclocked they perform near a 1070, only slightly behind and with 2gb less vram, a non issue unless you plan on going 4k, which a single 980ti isnt cut out for even with AA disabled

>>62077870
>What are you doing anon
being poor. what did you expect with a build like this?

>>62078189
the build is really solid for a budget build, 75hz freesync monitor with an amd gpu is just going to work wonders for stretching out performance, e.g. 40fps looking like 60.
only problem is i don't know if there's anything better for the price.

>>62078189
why do you need speakers for? can't you stretch for nice peripherals?

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Why is the gigabyte 1080 so much cheaper than for example the MSI one .... what are the negatives? I don't care for RGB lighting etc because i can't realy look into my Corsair 300R

also what's the difference between these two?
(they come with destiny2 which i will sell to a friend for 40bucks)

Ah right. This is what hell looks like.

https://jet.com/product/6-packs-of-Sapphire-11265-01-20G-Radeon-NITRO-RX-580-8GB-GDDR5-DUAL-HDMI-DVI-D-D/dc82e596620f4e05b2e742dd6235b30e

>>62078268
kill me now

>>62078268
Hello darkness my old friend

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Opinions?

>>62078385
Get a gold rated psu and it's good

>>62078385
you sure the psu is good enogh?

>>62078268
>Over $500 per card for a $200 card
Who would buy this?

>>62078430
Idiots.
The world is filled with them.

>520w bronze
I see that you like to live on the edge.

The parts arrived and I've never looked up how to assemble the computer.
help me

>>62078482
>>62078419
I mean the build is on 254W

>>62078410
Any suggestions?

>>62078496
Youtube and mobo manual. Like the only time ever you'll want to look at one.

>>62078521
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

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Is pic related worth it for 545€? It's only 45€ more expensive than a 1070 but I'm worried the 1 fan is going to be an issue.

>>62078523
it mentions an expansion card, but i see no separate circuit
I also remember hearing something about static, was that a meme?

>>62072674
THis made me laugh way harder then I should have.

>>62078563
Not worth it. Get at least a 2 fan card.
You should be able to find a good 2 or 3 fan gtx 1080 for that price though.

Also if you're from the Netherlands or Belgium try to use tweakers. net and hardware. info.for pricewatching. Also think about ordering from amazon. de. Shipping is free and the prices tend to be much lower.

>>62078609
The g1 card I can also afford, but that'd mean no food for the rest of the month. 550 is max for me and this is the only 1080 below that. I've been using tweakers.

Is it really that bad? I doubt I'm gonna overclock.

>>62078638
>Is it really that bad?
More noise and higher temps.

Anyway how about this one?
https://www.amazon.de/Gigabyte-GeForce-GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD-Grafikkarte-schwarz/dp/B01J66BMXC/ref=sr_1_13?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1503655597&sr=1-13&keywords=gtx+1080

so, i want to pick up some trident z rgb, but it isnt on the motherboard qvl and it appears that only one or two of the trident z kits are actually b die to begin with
im going to be completely happy with 3200 and call it a day, will i be fucked if i go with the rgb/trident z over something else? I'd really like to get trident z of some kind, but if i wont be able to budge past say 2933 im gonna be pretty pissed
i have a 1600 and a taichi, if that matters

>>62078672
Problem with amazon.de is that I can't pay with iDeal which is kind of a dealbreaker to me.

Is a GTX 1060 6GB worth paying 100€ more than for a GTX 1060 3GB?

>>62078385
Perfect. That psu is totally fine.
The gpu is low end compared to the cpu, but i'm sure you know that.

>>62078742
Not really, but the prices are inflated on everything. The only cards that are worth buying are 1050 (Ti) and 1080 (Ti). Everything else isn't "worth" the price.

>>62078165
I'm concerned about its longevity. Will its performance still be considered "good" 3-4 years in the future considering it's already two years old?

€150 27MP68HM-P on GTX 1080 a waste?
Other than that could get 1080p 29" ultrawide for €240, 1440p144Hz IPS ~€530, 1440p144Hz TN ~€350 or 34" 1440p ultrawide 100Hz for ~€750-800.

What should I get? Might upgrade GPU next gen as well.

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Do I just put the cooler on now with the jizz that's preapplied or do I have to take anything off the chip now? That written shit on the chip stays?

>>62079011
The first option

>>62079011
just put the cooler on. All the words are laser etched onto the surface of the heat spreader and do not come off.

just remove the plastic covering the jizz on the cooler, and install it

>>62079011
make sure you take the plastic off the base of the cooler if there is some.

How many years until 4k 120 fps? Is that unrealistic to wait for?

>>62079011
Don't forget to put the sticker on before the heatsink.

>>62079112
don't mislead the first timers

>>62079110
Depends on what you want to do at that resolution.

>>62079110
It seems unrealistic to wait for.
Everyone has been having trouble with Moore's law in the past few years. It's why AMD is going for scalability over everything else.

>>62078904
depends on what you define as "good"
will it be able to play the latest games? probably. will it max them out, almost definitely not
look at the 680 for example. in most cases it performs about on par with a 1050ti, and it's about 5 years old. thats still pretty good to me. if you're really concerned about longevity though, you should really be considering the 1080ti, as it will obviously provide the longest service time.

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>>62079112
don't stress me bro,

did I just block my ram slots?
does the cooler go on the other way?

>>62079150
You should have put the ram on before.

>>62079150
Doesn't look like you blocked the slots from this angle. I put my cooler on the same way.

>>62079150
you can remove the fan iirc, but it might have to be from the bottom. you can just remove the cooler and replace it turned 180 degrees, dont worry too much about the paste it wont make much of a difference if you just turn it once
but yes, ram probably should have gone in first, no worries though now you know for next time

can anyone tell me if threadripper has psp on it? i tried emailing amd but their support is so incompetent, some indian sent me a link to amd laptops then stopped replying

>>62079150
ram slots shouldn't be blocked but if you're that worried about it, you'll notice 4 additional screws in the heatsink that aren't used to secure it to the motherboard.
Unscrew them. The fan housing should come off. Now rotate it 90° so the AMD logo is on top, then reinstall the screws.

>>62079119
Given my current backlog the most intensive things at the moment would be emulation, AAA games of yesteryear, and some AA games.

Also, is there any reason to replace a pc case if you already have one?

>>62079160
>>62079171
Cooler off, ram on
>>62079164
They were for sure

I'll 370/2 the cooler for the future.

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>>62079276
>pic

>>62079267
if you want a better case. modularity, cable management, holes with rubber grommets, sound deadening, drive mounting options...

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>>62079288
Result

>>62079321
see:
>>62079251
and no, the cooler doesn't have to come off to rotate it

>>62079330
I already screwed it on, does it functionally matter, I checked and it look centered whichever way the cooler part is

>>62079370
>does it functionally matter
nope. But having the AMD logo offset to one side would set off my OCD.

>>62079383
the fan screws are at a weird angle, otherwise I'd be tempted.
I considered it before doing as I did.

Are we anywhere close to a big performance jump or should I buy a new pc now?

Still rocking a i5 2500k.

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>>62071230
Hello /pcbg/, I am looking to build a very cheap but efficient PC, specifically for studying, web browsing, and writing purposes.

I didn't order a GPU because I don't plan to have any games on this computer.

I'm here again, to update my part list for feedback, cheaper recommendations, or obvious problems with the build.

I want some validation or a head pat for my cheap ass list.

>>62079418
depends on what you're doing. for gaming in 90% of cases your 2500k, assuming it's overclocked and you're not trying to stream/do too much in the background is still more than capable.
if you do any kind of video editing, rendering, encoding, streaming, etc. then even a r5 1600 would be a massive upgrade for you. also bear in mind the am4 socket will be supported for at least another 4 years, so you can always get a midrange cpu now and upgrade to something like zen 2 when it comes out, which might now be a bad idea. as it stands now it looks like zen 2 is going to be a huge upgrade, even over what we have now

>>62079418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xRAACegBzE

>>62079439
i would change the cpu to a r3 1200 and either go with a ab320 motherboard if you dont want to overclock or a slightly (read at most 20 more) more expensive b350 motherboard
you'll get 4 cores then instead of 2, and an upgrade path. the next generation of intel chips wont work on that motherboard, and you wouldnt be able to overclock anyways, the am4 socket is supported through 2021

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>>62079406
Hmmm, the bottom 3 holes have nowhere to be screwed to
Did I fuck up the tower case or is that for other cases?
Will 3 + 1 central be enough?

>>62079439
Why not go for a ryzen r3 instead of a g4600?

>>62079465
AB320 doesn't exist.
It's A320, B350, or X370

>>62079478
If it bolts in and doesn't move it's fine.

>>62079515
its late, im retarded
sue me

>>62079526
it's 7am. Your its late excuse doesn't fly

>>62079536
>thinks everyone gets up for work early
ive been at work since 6pm yesterday, it's late for me

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>>62079465
>>62079484
Is this better now?

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>>62079522
I think I found a way to move the little stands, they packed a little adapter bolt that will let me move the ones located for a bigger mobo
they also gave me a spare stand

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So I've been getting pretty shit temps as of late on my 5 year old shitty pre-built and I decided to look in the case to find out why. Apparently the front case fan was never connected in the first place. Where does this go exactly?

>>62079649
>1 stick of 4GB
get 8 GB minimum.

>>62079687 Into the fan headers on the Mobo... send pic and ill circle

>>62078410
>>62078419
>if it's not gold rated it'll explode
Fuck off

>>62079687
Does your pc have a manual? Look for something on the motherboard that says CHA_FAN1 or something along those lines (basically any three/four pin slot EXCEPT CPU_FAN (there are others too but i doubt you have AIO_PUMP or anything in a prebuilt)

>>62079722
No but the cost increase is ever so slight and with the money you save on electricity, by the time you've upgraded, it'll have almost made up the difference, while having produced less heat during it's lifespan meaning, however little, it will have made a better computing experience.

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>>62079720
I found it but my other fan is plugged into it and I can't find another slot like it. Are there any other pins I can plug it into?

>>62079659
I have one card, does it matter in which slot it goes?

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>>62079775
>pic

>>62079769
most Mobos have 3-4. If you cant find them get a molex to fan header adaptor (if you have a spare 4 pin molex on from your power supply)

>>62079789
one says pci 16x (top) and the other says pci e 4x (bottom) Use the top slot anon

>>62079659
yes you did have to move the standoffs.

>>62079789
top

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>>62079796
There's literally only 1 fan slot. Cqn I plug them in to something like this? Or will I fuck it up?

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>>62079870
why did you unplug that.... have fun putting it back. and no, you cant

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>>62079818
I imagine the card is almost entirely held by the front part right?
there is nothing to screw here right?

>>62079870
you can't plug it in that, it's not for a fan.
you can either get a doubler for your one motherboard plug, or put it directly to the psu like >>62079796 suggested.
that's a nice argument against prebuilts by the way. shitty motherboards and unconnected fans.

>>62079870
Take a picture of your whole mobo so we can see

>>62079892
yeah it's held by the pcie slot and the part that screws in the back of the case

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>>62079892
Looking good anon

Does it matter if i split my ram into dual channel in a r1600 build?

>>62079916
yes dual channel is faster

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>>62079885
It's easy as fuck to put back in anon
>>62079894
The PSU is not modular so I got no clue where to put it in. Might look into that molex adapter.
>>62079896
Pic related. Specs also say only 2 fan headers (1 of which is for the CPU). And don't laugh about the cable mess, saggy GPU and loose SSD. I'll post a second pic for what's under the GPU.

>>62071230
I know its possible to get an educational tax credit for buying PCs or laptops and in my personal experience, its easy to qualify for it with a receipt.

However, is it possible to collect the same education tax credit with receipt of computer parts?

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>>62079933
Second pic

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>>62079947
1 x CPU fan header
1 x system fan header

From the Gigabyte website - that pc shop did a mad dodgy, also I dont think 1 extra case fan running will do the cooling you think it will do

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>>62079979
Well I'm just trying everything I can anon. It used to run pretty cool, I already tried reapplying thermal paste but that barely did anything. Side note: The connector fits in here perfectly, but I'm guessing it won't work because only 2 pins?

>>62079915
Thanks, anon, it's almost only about cables now.

>>62080009
It will but it won't be able to detect the RPM of the fan

>>62080054
Is that a massive problem though? That's only for if I want to fuck with the fan's speed right? (Which I never do anyway)

>>62080077
Should be fine, it'll just have the cunt running at 100%

>>62080087
Well I guess I try.

how big of a threat are these coffee lakes cpus going to be to a ryzen 1600 / gtx 1080 build.

Like should I have just waited instead of building 3 weeks ago? Am I going to be behind just weeks after having build my new PC

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My stock cables from the mobo don't go into the ssd, is this normal?
The 'clip' part that's suppose to lock in or something doesn't go in.

>>62080175
It should, it's all the same standard, try with a bit more force and push down on the metal tab

>>62080168
Nah, you're fine. Don't fall for shills' shilling.

>>62080168
another cpu coming out won't make yours run slower.

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>>62080202
You're right, I guess I'm too careful. How embarrassing.

>>62080087
Alright it's spinning. I think I pulled the fucker out a couple years ago myself for some reason and forgot to put it back in. When I turned on my PC, the fan's LEDs turned on which I remember being there when I first turned it on. Also doesn't seem to be running at 100%. Will post temps in a bit.

from an r3 1200 to an r3 1400, you basically only gain multithreading, right? It doesn't seem worth the 50% price increase if I'm going for a budget gayming build with a 1050 Ti (and I would OC the cpu anyway).

>>62080237
It's better to be too careful than to be the idiot who ripped out his entire PCIe slot.

>>62080262
the fan might just be getting old, cheapies don't last long. good luck with temps

>>62080324
m...my monitor's aren't getting an input now. Fuck everything.

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>>62080341
check cables, did you bump the GPU, does it work with the fan unplugged?

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Is this normal?
that slot to be empty?

>>62080360
>Does it work with the fan unplugged
Fuck my life it does

>>62080395
Yes it's normal
>>62080401
RIP

>>62080431
H..help

>>62080488
It shouldn't be shorting anything or drawing anywhere near enough power to under power the system, can you try plugging the front fan onto the mobo fan header and the rear fan on the PSU?

>>62080553
Sheeeeeeeiit it's working.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/k8QqvV
Thoughts? Literally have the money for it right now, and actually do want a new pc right now as my laptop that i have been using is on it's last legs.
I am still tossing up about waiting for the 8700k but i really want this now

>>62080659
fucking stop, no i7. psu is over kill. this is a waste of cash

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>>62080683
This

>>62080553
>>62080632
aaaaaaand I'm still getting shit temps

>>62080659
You're really going all-out. Get an SSD though.
But if you're spending that much, it's worth waiting for the new chipset and processors.

>>62080706
What are the temps? how are you stressing?

>>62080659
dont get the zotac, the vrm cooling is really bad, and the cooler itself is nothing to write home about
look at the strix and evga models
also, ditch the i7 for fucks sake, please for the love of god. there are cheaper 6tb drives to be had as well, at least stateside, idk what it is for kangaroobucks. and that power supply is just throwing away money, highest you'll ever need is gold, platinum if you're going to be at 100% use 24/7/365 for literally 5 years plus, with over a 1000w power draw

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>>62080722
Not stressing shit this is idle

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Me again, does this slot (top left) also need power besides the big cable for the mobo?

>>62080766
is your heatsink fully clipped down 100%? You said you replaced the paste but is there any chance one of the four shitty clips might not be fully clicked in?

>>62080683
Still going to get the i7, unless solid proof the 8700k is coming out next month, but if not what would be the best alternative as i will basically just use this for gaming
>>62080713
I am, just tossing up to which SSD to get
>>62080727
Thanks for the info

>>62080825
yes, thats your cpu plug. be careful not to confuse it with a pcie plug. your connections should be labeled on the plugs on the psu cables

>>62080825
I'm confused but that 8 pin slot does need power. That is power for the CPU, the 24 pin is power for the Mobo

>>62080840
Oh I'm fucking sure it's clipped down. I had a fucking adventure with that. I made doubly sure it's clipped down well. I was getting these same temps before reapplying thermal paste.

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>>62080867
Other than giving the heat sink a real good clean to remove any dust (even though it looked clean) I don't really know what else you can do, you may have a botnet or something running on the machine which is using your CPU to mine. run malware bytes or something, also try booting into safe mode and checking the temps, if it's low in safemode something is hogging the cpu.

im off to bed, good luck anon!

>62080940
I've been running AIDA64's stress test and it's barely going above 65C (speccy says it's about 5C hotter but whatever). So it's not too bad. I'll check temps in safe mode tomorrow when installing my new GPU. Goodnight senpai.

>>62080940
>>62080973

>>62080859
What do you mean? I have two plugs that are 6+2 pins, one went to the gpu with 6 pins and the other I intent to use 8 on the cpu as you told me.

>>62081427
you have a cpu power plug, it's not a pcie plug

>>62081427
>>62081440
Wait, my bad, there are two 6+2s and a 4+4 that's different, The 4+4 fit the cpu slot.
This is it, we plug her in and test now.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xLdmtJ
Thoughts. I don't really like Intel so not interested in their offerings. Mainly gonna be used for gaming

>>62081506
get faster ram, like ddr4-3200.
other than that you have some overpriced things, but seeing your choices you don't seem to be too fussed about price. might as well go for an m.2 SSD.

>>62081506
Avoid the NEX. Look at a G2 or G3 PSU instead.
Change the 2800 speed ram for 3200

>>62081506
oh and this guy >>62080727 says the zotac card is bad, although i don't know anything about it myself.

NEW THREAD!
>>62081618
>>62081618
>>62081618

>>62081459
She lives!
Thanks for the help lads, you've been great!