How accurate is this?

95% accurate

>>62058068
Where's netrunner?

>>62058068
overall it is kinda accurate.
>Waterfox
doesn't deserve to be in excellent tier. doesn't deserve most of the shilling it gets here.
>Brave
it's OK, i guess. modern and everything, but the business model is cancer and it doesn't do anything on a particularly amazing level.
>Sleipnir
why recommend this at all? it's realigned chrome with the only thing going for it is the godly font rendering. it still calls home to Google and the customization is nonexistent.

if only Dooble/qute had 4chan-x working with them, I would be satisfied with those forever

>>62058068
Waterfox is fucking placebo tier.

>>62058158
a thousand times this. nice icon, though

>>62058126
I just use Qute for Youtube browsing since it works really well with mpv.

>>62058068
Considering nightly right now is faster than Firefox thanks to the 57.0 codebase changes, not 100% accurate anymore.

>Pale Moon
That's autism tier. Amateur fork that uses an old Gecko codebase and thinks he alone can somehow keep up.

>That Soros bullshit
Wasn't it confirmed fake news?

>>62058068
>puffin browser
>botnet
Its nice for mobile

I found Brave to be extremely slow and buggy on my PC. Granted, it's almost a toaster, but everything else runs great, including Chrome

>>62058199
the Soros shit was indeed fake news/gross misinterpretation, but Firefox's movements towards Chrome-esque buttnuting (not quite there, but getting there) makes me a bit concerned anyway. i mean, yeah, you can disable pretty much all of the issues in about:config, but still

regardless, i would still rather use Nightly/FF over forks like Waterfox which do so little as to not even be worth mentioning

also Pale Moon is a good option for those who want to use old Firefox. garbage hardware acceleration / smooth scrolling triggers my autism, though.

>>62058308
Waterfox is custom-config ESR x86_64 build, right? At most some source code changes to disable further stuff.

Honestly that's not too bad as far as forks go. I'd feel more secure using that than Pale Moon and its crazy endeavor.

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>>62058359

What does Waterfox even remove that a privacy focused about:config doesn't? You can get rid of telemetry without a fork.

>>62058068
>build a version with google tracking and ping and sync disabled

im using the Nik build hosted a woolyss, I know he disables the sync bullshit but what about the other two?

>>62058430
Go to the Chrome entry on installgentoo. There's some patch sets you can grab.

>brave
Not at all.

>>62058158
>>62058175
how

>>62058126
Some anon was working on Greasemonkey-support recently. Unfortunately I can't review it right now because I'm focused on exams and then the new config will land (probably causing conflicts), but if he keeps his promise and updates it once that's done, that shouldn't be too far away (at least the 4chan-x features which don't need cross-origin requests).

>>62058504
oh, nice. hopefully that all comes through.

>>62058078
In alpha stage.

>>62058078
We all know netrunner is gonna die

>>62058565
Please don't bully netrunner-chan, she tries her best

we all know brave is the best browser desu

>>62058068
shitty graphic (fonts) can't be trusted

Where's surf?

>>62058068
>Vivaldi is botnet
Explain

>>62058404
Literally something some /g/tard made on his own.

>>62058068
>>62059005
Seconded. Seemed pretty benign when I looked at it.

>>62059125
lol

>>62059005
>>62059466
It's proprietary.
You really should have learned about the dangers of non-free software by now.

where's vivaldi?

>>62059895
I meant the graphic, not the browser. Just realized I wasn't exactly clear.

>>62058068
who cares what browser does/sends somewhere when your ISP is selling your history/habits to advertisers who know you better than your mom

>>62060141
That's not why we use HTTPS Everywhere, Friendo.

>>62058068
Just looking at Brave alone, I can tell you it isn't very good. Brave on android is pretty good, but Brave on desktop is unacceptable as is.

So at the end of the day I should just keep using chrome? Because honestly according to you lot every other alternative is just as bad or not worth using?

>>62060282
does it give you crypto shekels yet?

>>62058068
what I want to know is by what metric you spergs are measuring "trust" by, and what you fear will actually happen by this "fight on misinformation".

>>62058068
>firefox
>excellent
Whoever made this chart is a fucking joker.

>>62058068
anything based off pre firefox 57 is slow as fuck
firefox 57 is botnet
chromium phones home (botnet)

Firefox is so slow that I don't understand how it's possible to make a browser render that slow. Even edge is blazing fast in comparison. I've seen Firefox take over a minute to load a page that chrome and edge load in less than 20 seconds.

All browsers are shit now. The sooner you accept this the sooner you can decide which browser dildo is the least uncomfortable.

>>62060717
>firefox 57 is botnet
Can mods put a word filter on "botnet" already?

>>62060790
Instead of focusing on speed and extensibility, Mozilla has been focusing on trying to copy Chrome and adding useless shit like Pocket.

>>62059923
Yeah man, just look at sublime text. Truly, a botnet to rival chrome.

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>>62060717
>anything based off pre firefox 57 is slow as fuck
I still remember the thread doing benchmarks and my modified nightly 56 version basically crushed Chrome and was equal to 57 in almost all browser benchmarks that didnt involves some silly fucking flash performance tests, which are utterly irrelevant to me since I dont use flash.

>tfw use normal Chromium because I'm too dumb to figure out how to disconnect the Google stuff

Firefox has become pure cancer.

>>62059005
>>62059466
It's fine. It doesn't send anything to some suspicious server. Feel free to check this with Wireshark for yourselves.
The only people actively bashing it are >muh proprietary fucktards that have no actual reason or proof, much like >>62059923

Say something about dooble

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>>62060899
>HURR DURR HE USES THE WORD BOTNET SO HE MUST BE WRONG
pic related
also it's not just nightly, regular firefox phones home as well (I ran Wireshark scan on about:blank as the only tab with no plugins and it flooded the console)

>>62061592
ran a*
also chromium is even shittier due to less plugins
>>62061449
>modified
there you go
what did you do to modify it exactly?

>>62058068

In wich way Icecat is better than Firefox ?

>>62060165
you obviously have no idea how traffic from ISP POV under https looks like

>>62058068
No, dooble is shit

>>62060165
Have you not seen how detailed ISP logs are?

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>>62058068
so what's the best firefox alternative now that it's absolute shit?

>>62061789
It's free

>>62061592
You can disable all of the bonnet shit in the about:config easy.

>>62061969
Nah, Dooble is nice.

>>62058068
>Seamonkey is placebo autism
>Brave and iridium in excellent tier
>midori is shit tier
>implying lynx is extremely useful in some situations
>no links2-gui
this image is shit anon

>>62058193
pls explain

>>62058078
In the trash where it and other /g/ projects belong

>>62062515
You can add a binding in qutebrowser so that it spawns a command in shell and automatically passes the url of the page you're currently on to mpv. You can also set it up with hint-links.

https://qutebrowser.org/FAQ.html

>>62062529
that's awesome! Is there a firefox extension that can achieve the same thing? If not I think I'll switch to qutebrowser

>>62058068
That annotation is completely inaccurate. Mozilla did not partner with George Soros. Mozilla is not supporting fact-checking engines.

>>62062577
Not that I know of. I use qute/ungoogled chromium in tandem with one another, though. If only to handle with convenience that which qute can't.

>>62058068
pale moon in not free software it goes to excellent tier

>>62062529
If qute ever gets greasemonkey support, It'll be my favorite browser. But then again the key bindings mingle with my autism in just the right way. Also, it seems to render font a bit better than Chrome/FF

I want to ditch Chrome but need 4chan X! I wish it was available on FireFox.

I thought Iridium was botnet...

>>62062505
>bashing Iridium
stop samefagging >>62059923

>>62063960

>>62059923
Not me you dumb cunt

>>62058068
>((( s o r o s )))

Anyone who falls for the reddit-tier soros meme is a fucking moron.

>>62062115
Brave. It's even made by one of founders of Mozilla.

>>62058199
>>62064005
>>62058308
But it's true you retards. They may not have explicitly said the name "Soros" but that doesn't mean it's false. It's not hard to put two and two together. They even fucking cited a proven fake news source on their Mozilla blog as an example of a credible news source.

>>62058257
Enable "Update to preview releases"

>>62058203
I use puffin to stream flash live porn cam sites

>>62064255
It is not true.

>It's not hard to put two and two together
aka, make shit up because it fits your agenda

Mozilla has no connection to George Soros or fact-checking software or services.

what's the deal with pale moon? why should I switch from firefox?

>>62058068
>Brave
>excellent tier
K Y S

>>62064351
Stop shilling for Mozilla faggot. Try reading the actual articles and maybe learn something. The misinformation program is backed by George Soros and another.

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>>62064515
Try reading the actual article yourself. This is the official source from Mozilla: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/
Notice anything? There is no mention of what you are accusing Mozilla of.
The Gulf Times article in the OP is simply wrong. MITI has nothing to do with the full fact foundation or fact-checking engines. I don't know where they got that from. But here is an article where a Mozilla employee explains what their intentions are and what they are not.
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/08/22/fake-news-mozilla-joins-the-fight-to-stop-it-polluting-the-web/

>>62064255
>Just because something is false doesn't mean it's false

Holy fuck just end yourself right now lad. Mozilla working on initiatives to get your fat nan to stop sharing clickbait on facebook doesn't mean FF is compromised or working with (((Soros))).

>>62058068
>tfw use seamonkey

At some point someone needs to make a fork of chromium that completely blacklists anything going out to google.

>>62064655
Agreed, but they shouldn't be working on initiatives to control what people click on at all desu.

>>62064772
There's already patch-sets you can download if you're building Chromium yourself, or you can use Iridium/Ungoogled Chromium.

>>62062115
>>62064230

Iridium, Icecat, those

>>62064772
There is ungoogled chromium, but the releases are slow and it's made by a single hobbyist college student, so it's validity should be questioned.
Why do you need to order chromium though? FF nightly has been amazing since 57 landed.

>>62065173
57 also broke most of my add-ons.

>>62065255
Like what?
Every extension I use either has an alternative on webextension or has already been ported.

better options? Waterfox or Pale Moon?

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>>62064255
God I hope you're a /pol/ack or a Brave shill, because if you aren't trolling then the education system has failed you greatly.

Look up confirmation bias. That's what's happening in your example of "putting two and two together". Just because an idea aligns with what you want to be true, doesn't make it true.

There is no evidence, or proof, at all, yet you make such definitive statements. Get some critical thinking skills dude, please... You're better than this.

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>>62064625
Notice anything?

>>62065173
If by "amazing" you mean "finally half the speed of Chromium" then sure

>>62065461
>There is no evidence, or proof, at all, yet you make such definitive statements.
Saying "Soros is not involved" is also a definitive statement, and one for which you have no evidence or proof.

>>62058565
b-b-but it made front page of hacker news.

Pale moon is the only browser with built in furry porn, make the switch today.

>>62065539
Ignore this reddit spacing moron, I'm pretty convinced he's an actual shill, he's in every thread where the soros mozilla potential connection is mentioned screeching the same redditspaced lines "REEE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE" canned lines

>>62065505
>no mention of George Soros or anyone else backing Mozilla's misinformation program
No, I don't.

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>>62065539
>asking me to prove a negative
Annddddd you've committed another logical fallacy. You're making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. That's like asking an atheist
>Yeah, well, you can't prove God doesn't exist!

>>62065574
>asking for evidence of a claim is evidence of "shilling"
God forbid we require evidence to believe something. We should all believe *your* claims without proof, huh? That'd be your perfect world.

tfw people still falling for the soros meme without even reading the blog post

>B-b-but muh soros
/pol/tards can't into tech

>>62065602
It's ridiculous, really.

>Don't trust Mozilla, they are potentially being backed by Soros!
>There is no proof of it, but they are not denying it either (not that anyone would have bothered asking)
Well, I better stop using all their products immediately.

>>62058068
>>62058073
George Soros was fake news

>>62065654
Actually they did deny it on reddit.

>>62065654
You had them deny it on plebbit.

>>62062886
>Soros
Bullshit. They announced it on their own website:

"The game-changing investment comes from the Omidyar Network, the leading philanthropic investment firm established by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar and Open Society Foundations, the largest philanthropic funder of human rights in the world, founded by George Soros."
https://fullfact.org/blog/2017/jun/awarded-500000-omidyar-network-open-society-foundations-automated-factchecking/

Mozilla connection:
"The “Mozilla Information Trust Initiative” comes as an automated real-time fact-checking engine developed by the Full Fact Foundation was demonstrated in London."
http://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/mozilla-partners-with-piere-omidyars-full-fact-foundation-to-fight-fake-news-online-3913097.html

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>>62066353
Stop trying. It's embarassing.

>>62066377
So Soros's Open Society didn't give Full fact $500,000? And Firefox isn't using Full fact right? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-full-fact-checking-fake-news-firefox-1735780

Just die already, George.

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>>62058068
Outdated bc palemoon is botnet now or at least that's what /g/ said.

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>>62058068
>le George Soros boogeyman meme
Can /pol/ stay in their containment board

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>>62058565
[spoiler]You're right.[/spoiler]

>>62058068
Chromium should be at the VERY top. Nuff said.

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>>62066593
Can't hear you over the amount of KOCH your sucking senpai. When your finished I'll throw my eyebags in with your grave lmao

>>62065575
>>62065602
Soros or not, they literally have evidence on their blog that they support fake news.

>>62066353
The only two parties we should be listening to on this matter are the two being discussed. Full Fact and Mozilla. The Full Fact link you provided makes no mention or Mozilla, nor does it imply a partnership between the two. Likewise, the Mozilla blog announcement makes no mention of Full Fact and also does not state a partnership with Full Fact.

All these "activist" and "first post" blogs are irrelevant, because they provide no evidence for their claims. They are clickbait.

>continuing to exhibit Confirmation Bias with little to no self awareness
Go back to /pol/ please.

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>>62058068
Why is mozilla bothering with any of this? Can't they just focus on deving the browser? Noone who uses ff want's CENSORSHIP of ((fake news)) on the net, noone wants telemetry bs they are planning to implement, they're just going agaist what they advertised, against why ppl use they software in the first place, it doesn't make any sense, can someone get an interview and just ask them this?

>>62066819
So you can't answer my questions and respond with childish ridicule. Impressive.

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>>62066593
>So Soros's Open Society didn't give Full fact $500,000?
That doesn't matter. Because
>And Firefox isn't using Full fact right?
Yes, that's right. It's not. They are not connected. You will neither find Full Fact talking about it, nor Mozilla. Only dubious news articles are either putting both next to each other in attempt to make you believe they are. Or false articles which directly say they are.

>>62066971
I don't like the direction that Mozilla is thinking about heading. That alone is enough to condemn them.

The problem is when people start lying. Repeatedly stating, as fact, that Mozilla and Soros have some sort of partnership is a lie, as determined by the complete lack of evidence.

If you want to sway people that Mozilla sucks, then the facts alone will suffice. When you start lying, that's when you lose credibility.

>>62058068
It's nonsense.
>Firefox fork as God tier
>Dooble and Icecat even being mentioned
>Ungoogled chromium aka some 16 year olds amateur project as Excellent

The only accurate tiers are shit and botnet tiers.

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>>62067013
Thanks m9, just stooping down to the usual level of discourse at /pol/. Figured it would be familiar for you.

>>62067059
Please enlighten us then how Chrome is unironically the best or be extra cleaver and above it all and just say it doesn't matter.

>'hurr Soros is fake news'
>present evisence
>'l-lol insufficient evidence'
Mozshillas? Not even once!

>>62068808
>'hurr, Mozilla & Soros partnered'
>present evisence that they didn't
>'l-lol insufficient evidence'
/pol/tards? Not even once!

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>>62058068
>Pale Moon
https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml

>>62058068
only problem i see here, is that you actually CAN see images in w3m.
Also for getting info, that's what the web is for, you don't need actual fucking images, if you really do, download them and then check them out.

>>62058068
Out of all the presented browsers Doodle deserves to be in Placebo tier the most. (And possibly in Botnet tier since it's being developed by russian). All it's 'advanced security' features are present in all the major browsers and it also doesn't have extensions. I just don't understand why people shill it here since most browsers do its work as well if not even better.

>>62058565
How can something that never lived die?

>>62059923
>proprietary = botnet
Why is /g/ full of this specific kind of idiocy?

>>62063947
You can just install the userscript and run it that way.

Just installed firefox beta and it's really good.
Also I like the built-in screen snappin.

>>62070774
We're assuming that proprietary means botnet in the same way you might assume that a guy in an alley wearing dark clothes means mugger. Technically not true, but there's no way to tell until it's way too late, so we pick up on the "warning signs" instead.

>>62058068
Fox news videos haven't played on Firefox for me in 8 months. I have changed every setting known to god. Anyone else?

>>62070774
Proprietary software is not necessarily malicious but as you have no way of verifying whether it is or isn't you shouldn't trust it.

>>62070844
Thanks friend.

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>>62070932
This is true. Firefox is blocking almost all conservative news websites.

Champions of net neturality my ass! It's Soros and those damn JEWS again!!!

>>62071319
fox jews are not conservative

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>>62071343
WRONG Firefox is blocking Fox News completely for me I can't even get there. This censorship is insane. Jews!!!

>>62058068
Nightly has always been the best version of Firefox. Judging by category names, someone actually did a really lazy edit and flipped some stuff around. Waterfox is more likely to be placebo than a literal newer version of the browser. Waterfox is all about being 64bit, but Firefox itself is 64bit now.

Other gripes: no mention of qutebrowser

>>62065543
link?

>>62071385
post scrot

>>62071609
I don't know what you're asking but I can tell you that Brave is the best browser and you should use it. No jews just white people working there unlike MOZILLA its awesome use Brave. Brave al the way

>>62071657
>t. bcrypt
fucking tranny...

>>62071712
I'm not a transvestite I'm a man in his 40s. I'm sorry I got sideways Im just angry about Mozilla censoring my Fox News they dont want me to see it

>>62071748
>Mozilla censoring my Fox News
post screenshot

>>62071807
how

>>62058068
>George Soros
Let me stop you there. You need to stop.

>palememe
>good

Thanks for the chuckle OP

>>62071947
Soros is basically in charge of Mozilla at this point

>>62058199
I was about to say the new Firefox Nightly was the best experience I've ever had in terms of performance. And I mean, Nightly is open-source, so someone should take this good work and turn it into the most private + fastest browser around. (Hoping NetRunner doesn't fuck up)

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>>62071385
Latest Android Firefox Nightly build didn't block FOX News yet. Don't know about the PC version, tho. You might as well check, I think it's like chromium, the stable versions are the ones that get the whole "FUCK YOU, USER" bullshit.

>>62061592
I don't post on /g/ often can someone articulate for me what telemetry data has to do with botnetting?

>these people unironically defending Soros
redditors out!

So is Pale Moon some /g/ meme that I fell for?

>>62074051
It's perfectly fine if you want the old firefox feel.

>>62066593
So stop using Tor. It was funded by them too. Check this out pal.

>Nightly is supposed to be a 'sneak peak at future firefox features'
>Firefox runs worse and worse witheach update
?

>>62068930
>It is open source but not really
what did furfagdev mean by this?

>>62058126
i do like being able to preview a tab by hovering over it on Brave

>>62058068
Pwnnspeknsisi