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Study hard, you underage b&-ers!

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Just wanted to drop a "red pill"..

I'm a 36yo truck driver because I failed math. Aced -literally- everything else, but bombed math. Any bio-tech dreams I had are now officially gone, & even this job, while ok paying (hazmat tanker, ~$80k-ish/yr), is going to be replaced by bots before I reach retirement age.

That's all. Stop fagging off to stupid shit, & learn math.
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>be me
>do literature class in Highschool
>no maths (its like this in france when you choose literature)
>now attending the best CS school in my country
>still shit at maths

You don't need to be good at maths to be good at CS, just have a logic mind. My advice would be, stop wasting time shitposting and playing video games and dedicate time to things you truly love and thing that will make yourself grow up
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>>62037740
Sounds to me like you got thoroughly and totally cucked by the racketeering university system.
Most majors DO NOT require all of the mathematics load they enburden on their students, much like GE.
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>>62037740
You're making more cash than 90% of kids who fell for the STEM meme, keep on truckin and if you're smart with your money you won't need to work more than 10 years total.

>>62037802
This French child is right
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>>62037802
Haha, I'd love nothing more, but here in the US at 36 & with children -realistically- my hope is dead. I would need an unobtainable infusion of capital to make such things come true.
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>>62037866
Yes, I do alright with my money. Not going to get into it...I am "accomplished" in that regard, but I hate...I can't state that enough ...HATE every second of my mind & body-destroying job. Never got into drugs, but even if I wanted to I can't because of 'randoms'.. My free time is non-existent, & I HATE every aspect of my shit job. I'd take literally 1/4 of my wages to feel somewhat happy, no fucking joke.
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>>62037886
I know we aren't the same age and our live are totally different so It would be stupid to give you advices since I know nothing about family life but If I should tell you one thing: Don't have remorses on your life choices, what's done is done, you can't change the past. Love your wife, love your children and soon retirement will come and you'll be finally able to do what you love full time. God bless you my dude
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>>62037802
>now attending the best CS school in my country
Which one? I doubt you're at X
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>>62038051
x? maybe you mean 42.
No, Epitech Paris.
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>>62037740
OP, start watching 3Blue1Brown's videos on youtube for the basics and research topics you want to know more about. You'll be doing calculus and linear algebra in no time.

And please stop using the word "red pill"
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>>62038089
>epitech
>best CS school
eh

Why did you go to epitech? I'm at 42 and it's great, plus it doesn't cost 7k per year.
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>>62038089

Je suis d'Epitech Paris aussi, j'ai fini le cycle bachelor avec 3 de GPA en m'etant defonce sur les modules genre prog fonctionnelle, C++ avance, KOOC... Je travaille avec des mecs de polytechniques et d'autres ecoles d'ingenieurs genre ENSIMAG ou ENSAE et je te le dis, on est de la merde a cote d'eux. J'aurais prefere faire des maths.
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>>62038089
>>>62038051
>x? maybe you mean 42.
>No, Epitech Paris.
>epitech

Taupe gâteau. Même parcours que toi, une vraie brêle en math. Je regrette de pas l'avoir fait finalement.
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>>62038471
>Meme parkour
I don't know French but I do know that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, friend.
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>>62038471
If that's not too indiscreet, what kind of job are you doing now? Are you a web-dev or something else?
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>>62037740
lmao my roommate fucked up Math 1 in university and so he can't study anything with math here in germany anymore. Since then (2 years now) he is a independent app developer.
He can pay the rent and that is all i care about but he goes every 3-4 day to his mother to get his Tupperware containers filled with food to survive ayyy lmao.
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>>62037740
Learn JavaScript on code academy and then watch some videos on the MEAN stack. You can do it. There will at least be a few meme companies trying to play catch up by the time you're competent so you find a decent job if you're willing to relocate
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>>62037740
26 year old sys admin with 60k salary in germany, i failed math with a 6 which is equivalent to an f in merica. i simply never gave a fuck. you just fucking suck at life and you take the easy road by being a fat truck driver and finding and excuse.

blame math kiddo, sure will help you long term by resting on your blame target.

what a loser
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>I sucked at math. Lived as a neet for many years after barely pulling through High School.

>Then my mother died and after grieving for a while I decided to turn my life around. Studied hard, took math again, barely made it but enough to get into uni.

>Finish a bs in biology.
>Realize a master doesn't interest me in the slightest
>Academia is too cut throat to even contemplate pursuing

>Apply for tech related job
>Get hired because they desperately needed people and I happened to have a few key skills (with no papers to prove it) that they needed (experience with some proprietary software)

>Now work doing what I've always enjoyed doing, retaking math and doing a bs was just a waste of time and energy

>Study 3D in my spare time, reaching 10k hours soon. At the point where my skills in 3D are on par with people with years of experience.

>Working on a game in my spare time

Just follow your heart and do what you have to do to survive in the mean time.
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>>62037740
Here's the thing, you could've just learned stuff on your own. You could've easily got into many fields purely by learning programming and maybe IT.

The whole education leading to jobs is a stupid system. In practice people don't need the vast majority of the skills they learned and the vast majority of the skills for the job you learn on the job or in training before the job.

You don't need an education to get a job as a programmer. You don't even need a job as a programmer to make money writing software. But you do need initiative and skill.
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>>62038657
Hey, always hold your mom in a special place. I STILL take her care packages...eagerly & weekly...I love my mom
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>>62038784
Yeah, pretty much how I saw it at first too, but kids are expensive as fuck here (don't know about Germany, but childcare was more that $600US/week before they hit school age, & I had my 1st at 21. Driving pays right away here. There wasn't a minute where I could have afforded to do anything else on anyone else's dime, brother. I'm sure you didn't go from '6' to dev in no time & with no outside help.
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>>62039050
yeah but he moved out to be more independent and shiet but i think he still get all he needs from her even laundry detergent, sponges and so one. It's just somehow so sad, he fucked up his whole life just because he was lazy and didn't do shit and now he bases against universities.
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>>62039050
How I would love that.. Or even just a hug. I bought my mother flowers once, completely out of the blue and for no reason other than because I wanted to. She talked about it for years.
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>>62037960
I know how you feel, man. I went to university, dropped out and got a trade. Just became a journeyman a few weeks ago. If I work all year, I can easily clear $120k, but I'd take a quarter of that to work in tech.

Don't get me started on the fucking piss tests. To the people here with tech jobs, do you ever have to piss to be hired?
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>>62038949
100%
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Biotech here. I'm surprised that this actually ruined your dreams. The only math I really need to use is algebra. Granted I still had to take a couple calc classes to graduate but how couldn't you just get a C in those with the help of tutors or something? I could understand getting stuck at organic chemistry or something but not math. You're not trying hard enough if you can't somehow just pass a math requirement.
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>>62038949
if you're a lazy piece of shit having all the time in the world will mean nothing if you can't force yourself to do it

t. lazy faggot with excuses
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>>62037802
This. Computers can do all of the hard math for you as long as you aren't doing a lot of low level stuff. You can be a retarded web dev and only know 9th grade math (I work with someone like this).

You need math for low level stuff and anything that involves managing your own memory. Even Pajeets can learn C so it isn't that hard. Stuff only becomes difficult when you program in 32bit x86 ASM or try to work with COBOL (fucking horrible standard, fuck you IBM) that has little to no comments and isn't working correctly. Now that's a living hell.
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>>62039395
>need to know maths to program in x86 asm
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>>62038657
>he can't study anything with math here in germany anymore
Is this voluntary, or is this the power of socialism?
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>>62039230
I don't know if being an AutoCAD drafter counts as a tech job, but no, I was never tested. Literally my entire company smokes weed, often at work since no one cares as long as the job gets done.
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I studied accounting and still managed to end up unemployed.

Im honestly this close to doing a career switch to IT as I can code.
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>>62038905
Tell me about your game

>>62039265
What's with the organic chemistry thing, everyone holds that up as the be-all-end-all of difficult classes, why?
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>>62037740
If you were actually a trucker you'd know bots arent going to be taking your job anytime soon because the complexity of problems drivers have to deal with while driving
Hell they probably spend years just trying to get down the proper roads and alternates trucks have to go through before even testing them and obviously before that they'd have to get shipping automated everywhere first which would be a fucking miracle
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>>62039553
What's stopping one human driven lead truck commanding a convoy of self-driving trucks, like an australian land train?

This would eliminate all the uncertainty about self-driving vehicles being sabotaged by some faggot spray painting over stop signs.
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>>62039553
>If you were actually a trucker you'd know bots arent going to be taking your job anytime soon because the complexity of problems drivers have to deal with while driving
Or maybe he doesn't understand how far along AI is?
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>>62039587
>iIn the future there will be a whole chain of cargo containers connected together, being pulled by one manned engine in the front.

What a time to be alive!
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>>62039619
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>$80k a year
You should have plenty of money saved up if you aren't living like a consumerist faggot. With that much income you should have no problem getting a favorable loan either. Take online or mail-in courses for most of the work, and use savings or a loan to complete the rest. You are actually in a position to get what you want.
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>>62039521
>Tell me about your game

First person, pushing the graphics for what is possible when it comes to rendering nature. You're a guy, who somehow wakes up on the top of a mountain. As you find your way across the high altitude planes you meet ghost, echoes of the centuries past. They all teach you something, mostly existential lessons. In the beginning you meet old norse characters, then it progresses through the ages, from middle age to Renaissance, to 18 and 19th century characters and eventually you reach modern day people. As you stumble down towards them you collapse and black out. Then you wake up by medics putting you into a helicopter. In the helicopter you look out the window and see civilization down below. Then suddenly you get another flash and the building turn from present day to sci fi future. Then the screen goes black and the end credits roll.

That's about it, yeah.. It's supposed to activate your almonds.
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>>62039521
Because it's an unusually difficult class for two reasons. The first is that the pace is unlike anything a student is likely to have encountered in the last four or five years of their education. Information density is high and the ground needed to be covered is tremendous. The second reason is that the exams require creative mastery of the material. That is to say, rote memorization is only a minor element of one's grade. A lot of it comes down to being so adept with the course material that problems like these are presented with no real direction on how to solve them:
>Here's a proton NMR. Tell me *everything.*
or
>Synthesize 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine from furan, ethene and any inorganic reagents required. Name all processes used, depict mechanisms of those processes and include side-products and enantiomers if produced.
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>>62039395
>computers can do hard math
computers can't do hard math, it's literally the thing that they can't do, they can compute basic operations pretty fast though
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>>62037740
>36 years old
>already given up on life
Even if you fail, you are seriously gonna regret not even having tried right now when you'll be 80.
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>>62038657
Wow, you're one huge asshole of a roomate.
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>>62039877
I know a guy who started med school at 40 after spending quite some time fixing his grades.
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>>62039691
Sounds sick, but isn't that a lot for one person to pull off?
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Is it possible to get into CS-related fields without a degree? It seems even the average codemonkey that cannot even sum the primes under 2 million has a degree.
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>>62037960
>I'd take literally 1/4 of my wages to feel somewhat happy, no fucking joke.
well why can't you my dear shitposter
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>>62037886
>infusion of capital
Nigger, just figure out what you want to learn, and then pirate a book from libgen FOR FREE (not a torrent site, so you won't get letters from your ISP), watch FREE youtube programming videos, or do FREE online courses. Programming is literally the most trivial thing to self-teach. There is also no fucking way you couldn't spend some time learning every day, considering you're wasting your time on 4chan right now.
I know knowledge =/= employment, but who knows what new employment options you'll have 5 years from now, and you can always just try to be self employed on the side by making android apps or whatever. I don't know much about this desu, but the options are there, so you're setting yourself back if you don't at least look into your options.
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>>62040013
Do some code boot camp, contribute to some open source projects on GitHub, and put all than on your resume. Then apply at some "open minded" West coast tech companies
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>>62039967
It is, but I'm dedicated and I've already spent several years 3D scanning assets and building much of the material etc that goes into something like thi. And really, most of the work is in the assets and the characters. I'll pay voice actors to voice the dialogue of all the characters and probably get some help in doing the animations and character modeling. And because I'm doing some pretty groundbreaking things when it comes to wind, flowing water, fog etc I have to wait for at least two new generations of GPU advancements before it can be run properly. To drive the immersion home there are certain things graphics and physics wise that just have to look right, I want the simulation of nature to really drive the immersion. So I have plenty of time to finish it up.. Which I'll probably need anyways because I haven't done anything with music of sound effects yet..
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>>62039126
and i thought you said you are educated. you get education, then you get a job, THEN you ruin what you have built with primitive bullshitbingo; house, wife, kids, car, boat.

i did need some help, yes, and i was without a job for some time after i finished professional school but never in my entire life would i fuck around and get kids at 21. why? simply because im not an idiot to ruin my life because i can't keep my dick in my pants.

you ruined your own life with kids and not with failing math. you should change your title to
"im an idiot and fucked around, couldn't deal with the pressure of being a kid while raising one, while going to college"

l fucking mao
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>>62040346
unfortunately, this man speaks the truth. I've never understood how people could have kids in their early 20s or before, yet I see it -constantly- where I live. babies pushing babies in strollers. birth control is readily available for both sexes. morning after pill is readily available and if your country isn't a third world shithole, chances are they have some sort of program to give you the pill for free or at least very cheaply.

sorry OP, it was kids, not math.
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>>62040432
family gives purpose in life for women more than men. young minds just can't comprehend what kind of responsibilities they get into. some studies have shown that uneducated or poorly educated people tend to start families earlier.
basically forcing the issue (purpose) before having figured out what their live is about or what they want to accomplish. then of course there's the pussy game and the shit that's attached to it, a women. and as usual, women ruin everything because they are a god damn unstable emotional tinderbox and your dick's just a fucking fuse.
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>>62040686
it took me several years to convince my girlfriend not to want kids. now she wants them even less than I. not having kids gives you so much freedom it's ridiculous.

great analogy btw.
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>>62038139
>it doesn't cost 7k per year
not everyone can enter in 42 and when you have this money, pourquoi pas
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>>62037740
36, biotech; nice try but you're too old for "biotech" to have been a degree option when you went to college.
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>>62039940
This, my GP failed life for a bit, got an English degree, then went to med school in his thirties
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>36yo
>Biotech dreams
Maybe you should have tried again in the 18 fucking years since highschool, you stupid fuck?
You didn't get stuck with a crappy job because you sucked at math, you got stuck with it because you have no aptitude.
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>>62037740

Im in EE and the math here is brutal, its all the time in every year there is new math

it took me a lot but I finished math atleast for the first year still dont know what is waiting for me in second year, but pretty much every subject has new math in it
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>>62040734
always had to tell them all that i'd punch them in the cunt or throw them down the stairs, change my name and country.

here's the danger to all the vir/g/ins;
never trust a women with your semen, unless you intend to fuck up your life for good.
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>>62040890
or unless you are capable of killing the child in utero, of course. falcon punch does wonders.
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>>62040916
you can possibly do it much easier with some sort of mild poison that only kills the fetus.

many paths lead to rom as they say
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>>62038196
SPEAK ENGLISH
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>>62037802
Alright I will do that tomorrow after I beat this JRPG.
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>>62039395
>You need math for low level stuff and anything that involves managing your own memory.
??

> Stuff only becomes difficult when you program in 32bit x86 ASM
????

could you give some specific example where advanced cs math is require in world of asm?
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>>62037740
>>62037802
This. 2 time college dropout. Sr. service engineer. Make 6 figures, also 36.

Though I can't speak to bio-tech, but from an I.T. standpoint, skill and motivation > degree or certification.
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>>62043116
how'd you get to where you are?
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>>62038196
this is quite literally the only time so far that my ability to read french has come in handy
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>>62039395
>You need math for low level stuff and anything that involves managing your own memory.
Keeping track of offsets isn't exactly hard math.
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>>62040822
He could of went to collage recently
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>$80k for driving a truck
Literally not fair.
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>>62039395
I always had atrocious math grades in school and I'm fairly proficient in x86 ASM (to the level required to write a simple OS with a filesystem and the ability to execute executables from that filesystem). You don't need to know much math whatsoever to be a programmer, computers operate with simple arithmetic. The only skill I'd say you need outside of a child's understanding of math is the ability to convert between base10 and base16. You're a programmer, not a mathematician, you won't be doing complicated stuff like creating your own cryptographic algorithms.
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>>62037740
Funny how a Truck Driver in the USA can make you more per trip than a "programmer" makes in a month isnt it?
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>>62043305
nigga are you kidding? where I live, truck drivers have quite the difficult job. I'd never drive truck in the winter here, and seeing these guys do it makes me respect them so much more. there is so much responsibility behind operating a 100000 lb vehicle, 50 ft vehicle. truck drivers allow the world to operate as it does.
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>>62043322
If this is true sign me the fuck up, I thought Euro Truck Simulator was lying to me
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>>62037802
>CS
>best school in my country
>I'm shit at math.
Is this some wartorn country like Ethiopia?
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being a truck driver is my dream job
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>>62040140
Or you can just use vulkan
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>>62043428
get a class 1/CDL and get on the road, son.
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>>62037740
What's so hard about making rgb drones move like that?
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>be retard
>Mum is dating high up pajet in Google
>He gets me comfy job in server room doing almost nothing

Just browse 4chin
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>>62044360
Not much. It's a bit of work to get a single drone to follow coordinates precisely I'm not sure how they've measured the positions here. Probably through cameras. Hence all the tripods. That can be a bit fuzzy but with this many cameras it should be easy really. Then I guess you'd have to set up collision resolution plans in the remote controller for when doing the letters. But these are the easy cases.
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>>62038529
Underrated post, have a (you).
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>>62037740
stop shining faggot. I'm a 33 year old janitor that is currently working on his MSc in computational biology. Faggot.
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>>62044500
>shining

i meant whining. fuck phoneposting.
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>>62038784
>bragging about 60k
lel
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>>62037866
invest some of the 80k a year into various vehicles.

Stay away from the sp500 funds since the entry point is high. Pick up some bond funds for some income, and pick individual stocks for their dividiends.
Right now energy is in the doldrums so pick up some depressed energy stocks. For example exxon mobile will give you a yield of about 5 percent on your investment annually.

If you have kids, watch what they get excited over. What does every kid want. Identify that company and with due diligence, invest some money.

You're on 4chan, so I assume you are young, and since you are young and have a long time to go before retirement age, you should take some risk for the big payday.

t. millionaire. How? back in 2009 I picked up ford stock for a 1.40. I sold that 6 years later for a profit of 250k. Then I just reinvested that.

Good luck. You are the backbone of this economy so keep on trucken.
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>>62044767
Please post more advice. I love hearing from people like you.
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>>62044360
arent drones just running some linux version? Shouldn't be that hard to command the props.

Whats a good drone to fuck around with?
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>>62037740
If you can't ace your school math tests you most likely are sub-100 IQ imbecile. So don't worry - you had no chance to begin with.
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>>62044816
>if you don't get 100% in your classes, you're a retard with no potential

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>62044795
its all about taking some risk. Young people should take some financial risk. You will have some losses (you can claim on your taxes) but you can also have a big payday.
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>>62044767
Ditto this,

I invest 30% salary every month, approx £1k in medium growth funds. It fluctuates sure but I'm getting about 5-7% returns with dividends and income reinvested. It's easier to become a millionaire in your life time...just have to play the long game.
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>>62037740
Why cant you take pride i your job?

Youre right, it will be replaced by bots - but by now, it HASNT. Which means it is a necessary and honoroble task.

Even more so since it provides the exact infrastructure for tech like automated driving to be developed in the first place.

Take pride in what you do.
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>>62044849
Yeah, pretty much. If you tried and still couldn't top your grades then you're not talented. If you didn't try then you're a lazy fuck and might as well dig you "potential" underground.
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>>62044865
Overgeneralized statements like this signal to everyone reading them to ignore them. I wouldn't expect you to understand this, though.
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>>62039050
This.

You are a good son anon
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>>62037802
Pure math and CS double degreefag here. What this anon is saying is true, for the most part, but it's not exactly that simple.

First of all, all of the web dev, web design, and software engineering (SENG) people are often times considered CS by laymen but typically they're actually separate degrees with different expectations and learning outcomes (though there is often some overlap).

Even then though, what exactly constitutes CS is EXTREMELY broad. That is to say that it's possible to gather a lot of different people with CS degrees who have completely different backgrounds (with some basic overlap). Areas of CS include but are not limited to:
>Information Security
>Cryptography
>Database Theory
>Artificial Intelligence
>Computer Graphics Theory
>Programming Language Theory
>etc...

Some of those use some amount of math and logic (though typically not very much at all). Of all of those listed the only one that really uses a great deal of both math and logic is programming language theory (requires background in type theory, category theory, formal logic, non-standard logics, computability, and possibly a non-trivial background in pure math areas like homotopy theory, algebraic topology, abstract algebra, etc...). The area called Homotopy Type Theory sits at the intersection of pure math and comp sci, and from the comp sci side it's typically studied by the programming language theorists who are interested in theorem provers and other crazy programming languages.

tl;dr: Most CS students will need to know at most some babby math like calculus and linear algebra. Though your mileage may vary and it's possible to do a CS degree with tons of hard ass pure math. Instead find out how much math you need in order to study the area of CS you're interested in.
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>>62039553
I should have clarified; the job I.hold now will be nothing but babysitting in years. The operation isn't going to be 100t autonomous, but most is going to need nothing but a minimum of supervision. My boss went to a trade show either last year or the year before, & Volvo had a self-driving concept truck that was being demo'd in a mock yard. I guess it was rather impressive. When that's deemed perfected enough to hit the roads, my job will just be a tag-along to make sure it doesn't fuck up. Also, I never drove anything other than tanker, but I can tell you that in terms of both gases & liquids, the process of loading has become much more high-tech just in the 15 years I've been doing this. Example: one of the suppliers shut down for 45 days for upgrades. When they reopened, all the "loading arms" have been replaced, as well as the bays as a whole. These arms now have brackets at the joints, as well as this odd looking housing just before the head. I asked a guy that works there about them, & he said that the brackets at the joints were for motors, & the housing for lasers to make the loading process automated in "future upgrades." So that will most likely happen before the driving go's to bots, & that's half of (also the most compensated for part) of my job. There's going to, in I believe less than 15 years, be a time when AT THE VEEY LEAST, the truck will take over upon entry into the facility, pull perfectly into the bay, then get loaded by the arm itself without even leaving the truck (or with HAVING to leave the truck, thereby removing from harm any people that could get hurt if something went wrong). At that point, do you think I'm going to be worth ~$40 bucks an hour?
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>>62037740
>replaced by bots before I reach retirement age
Vote for legislators who will help you out after that happens
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>>62040346
>>62040432
Yeah, well that's the spot I'm in. I regret my decision not to live in poverty while I was younger, & jumping at this trucking job than I do the kids themselves. I would have them all over again if presented the opportunity.
Also, I am technically an RN. Passed my NCLEX & everything, but couldn't handle it. I wanted SO bad to go into radiology, but couldn't pass any of the algebra, statistics, or fucking physics classes to do so. I spent a lot of money on that education, & worked less than a month in the field. I'll be honest...at the time, that driving job was a sweet escape from the realities of the school choices I made, & it fucking paid almost on par with what I would have been making as a nurse at the time. You're not talking to an uneducated dullard, friend. You're speaking with someone who can't wrap the important parts of his head around math. My regrets stem from not MQKING myself get it while I was still young enough to do so. Yes, my children were expensive, but as much an investment as any college I'd ever had or would/could have had.
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>>62040822
You don't think that was a thing in the late 90's bud?
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>>62037802
math (except arithmetic)=logic
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>>62040864
You're right, can't argue. But it was multiple failed attempts that led me down this path to begin with, so not for a lack of trying. I should have gone back, but those failures had me gun shy, especially since it took me over 5 years to pay off the loans for schooling that I never even used my CDL paid for itself in just a few months. In the time it took me to get it, it literally did more than pay for itself.
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>>62044861
Pride is short-lived driving, man. There's nothing new to really learn, & it takes a toll on your body. I still work out & shit, but we're just not meant to sit for hours every day.
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>>62043202
Fucking around with computers in high school, pirating copies of NT4 and Windows 2000. Buying old hardware cheap at surplus, and not caring about noise, to start.

PowerShell helped a lot over the last 6 or so years.
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>>62044734
for never going to college, not even attending a good school i'd say that's a reasonably good salary. wouldn't call it bragging, it's more a figure to show that you can still accomplish something decent while not being the best, certainly not at math

>>62045310
education according to oxford dictionary is:
>1 The process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university.

someone appears to have forgotten to give you instructions to life, because i can not see by your argumentation that you had a solid foundation acquired through education, that sticking your dick in pussy and jizzing in it will not change your life and stress you out.

the important part of studying these days is to remember, that's all there is to it. it's not about understanding it, it's about applying it. learn, forget, repeat

>>62045346
this

>>62045472
we are not ment to stand either, your argumentation is invalid

>>62045559
learn something that's more useful than powershell, like python or ruby. with powershell you will only learn how to do things wrong and how to think wrong because the design is fundamentally shit
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>>62038089
Epitech
Hahahahhahahahaha
"Best school in france"
Ahhahahahahhaha
You don't even get an engineer's diploma, it's just a "pay for your shitty master's" private school

Paying over 7k a year to get a code monkey degree hahahahaha, what a fucking waste of money man, I really hope that you only went there because you didn't have the skills to get anywhere else
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Pls read before you consider i am an underage faggot /g/.

So I'm a highschool student in one of the best schools in my country, studied hard to come here. So i have the chance to do Abitur (which is the best german university certificate) or i can stay here in my country and study Medicine (50% of the ppl in my school does that). I can honestly say that i love tech stuff. But i don't know coding or much about IT but i want to learn. We don't even have an IT class in highschool.

Going to US is an option but it is too expensive. I can't do that if i don't get a good scholarship.

So this is the situation dear Anons. What would you do if you were 16 like me and you were in this kind of situation?

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>hey lads, I'm a massive fuck up
>now here is my life advice
yeah, totally going to take advice from a regret filled failure instead of successful people
will stand me in good stead I'm sure
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>Holographic screens will just be tiny drones with RGB LED's on them
I'm okay with this
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>>62047654
>So this is the situation dear Anons. What would you do if you were 16 like me and you were in this kind of situation?

Start learning programming in free time so you can actually tell if you can enjoy it or at least if you can handle 9-7 job.

>Going to US is an option but it is too expensive. I can't do that if i don't get a good scholarship.

There is not need to move to usa and pay shit of money for ivy league because you have great uni few km away.

ITs called Zurich ETH, they have really good cs program with strong math base.

You you have to be intelligent to get there, people there not all geniuses, but they are smart enough to grasp new concepts very fast.
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>>62047780
>ITs called Zurich ETH, they have really good cs program with strong math base.

Actually that was what i was thinking lately desu. I think i can get there with a good Abitur degree. But i have to study really hard as you said. Also my German has to be perfect. (which is not. such a hard language to learn)

>Start learning programming in free time so you can actually tell if you can enjoy it or at least if you can handle 9-7 job.

What do you suggest me to start with Anon? Bought a new computer with decent specs recently and i am thinking to profit. Maybe I can also learn video rendering.
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>>62038784
You fucking cunt
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>>62047896
yep, also fucking cunt, just one right now but more to come :^)
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>>62043395
I operate 205000 lb day in day out in a weather you never seen and make less than $60k from my day job

But I'm not complaining.
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