/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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All you Linux cucks with your backdoors, bugs, and bloat. Join the BSD masterrace.

>>62032177
Can I have a rare BSD disc image file?

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>>62032177

Whats the difference between Kubuntu installation vs Ubuntu minimal + KDE?

>>62032177
Rolling for the flat semen demon

>>62032177
Yeah sure I'll get right on that, I'll run BSD on my fucking laptop. Dipshit.

I'm learning Linux in school right now, I plan on buying a new hdd /ssd for keeping my OS on, is there any reason why an ssd might not be the best choice?

>>62033604
the "kubuntu-desktop" metapackage pulls in a good amount of other software.

>>62033721
I just dont want all of those preinstalled programs because i dont like any of them. I only want to install my preferred ones.

>>62033747
good, then install ubuntu text-only base then install the standard kde package (literally called kde-standard IIRC) then install the extra stuff you need. Avoid the "kde-minimal" metapackage, it's a bit too stripped down.

>>62033800
Thanks!

>>62032177
Why isn't Selim on there?

>>62033680
What's wrong with BSD on a laptop?

>>62033843
freebsd devs dont even run their own system on their laptops, but openbsd devs do - so it's more likely to have laptop drivers. plus you'll probably find yourself compiling a lot from source, so the lower end hardware and heat dissapation may slow things down.

>>62033913
FreeBSD works fine on my x220.

>>62033927
read my post you fucking idiot
i'm not giving specific cases, i'm saying in general.

>>62033960
Who cares if they don't have drivers for some acer.

>>62034045
again, that isn't the point. in general, freebsd is lesser supported than linux on laptops. why is this so hard for you to understand?

>>62032100
Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>62033927
was it difficult to get wifi drivers?

>>62033688
Depends. Rolling distros upgrade quite often, and too many writes can be bad for it. If you are planning on using a more stable distro it is a fine choice.

>>62034063
I'm saying who cares if normalfag laptops are not supported, as long as those that matter are.

>>62034075
Worked out of the box.

>>62034108
>it doesnt matter
>only mine matters :DDD
why are you like this? i'm trying to say that openbsd is often much better on laptops due to the devs using it on their own, but the only thing you can come out with is 'werks for me' and 'who cares, as long as it werks for me :DD'. is it so hard to understand the differences between individual cases & generalisations?

>>62034108
i might give it a shot on one of my thinkpads for fun.

I can't get mining eth to work on arch, do I just switch back to windows or keep trying

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How do I make my kernel smol?

>>62034199
is this a troll post ??

>>62034199
in the kernel config options check "optimize for size"

>>62034162
I get what you're saying and I never said you were wrong.
I'm saying it doesn't matter because it's not like some dumb chiclet HP user is gonna need FreeBSD support.

So I just installed Desktop Ubuntu.
What now?

>>62034282
use your computer ??

>>62034282

wow you accomplished something no one has before you. you're such a hacker lol epic nicely done ur cool now

>>62034293
>>62034309

thanks a lot faggots
I was asking more like what essential configurations or programs I should do/install.

>>62034356
how about you use your PC and install what you need. don't go installing shit for the sake of it

>>62034309
I wonder how insecure someone has to be to interpret that post as bragging rather than asking a question

I created ~/.Xresources and tried to change the Xterm background color with XTerm*background:green
then I ran xrdb ~/.Xresources

then I checked with xrdb -query and it registers my change.
However my terminal background is still white. In fact, nothing that I change in xresources is applied.
This is a basic arch install and I don't have any other terminal. The only special thing I am running is i3 with larger font size for the i3 menus and bar.

Please help. The background is blinding white and the text is tiny.

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>>62034210
N-No
>>62034239
I did that and disabled most of the features and made everything I could a module.
The kernel is 3.7M on disk, the system still somehow eats up 18M when I boot with the `init=/bin/sh` kernel parameter.
I put the names of the modules that were being used while the system was running normally in a file and loaded them when I booted up with just sh as the only process and the RAM usage went up from 18M to 27.6M!
I guess I don't need every one of those modules, but still.
Pic related runs gentoo with xorg and a wm and 3 terminal emulators and somehow his RAM usage is only 24M!
How is this achieved?

>>62034668
could it have something to do with caching?
did you check if the memory is actually being 'used' or cached?

>>62034715
I checked via htop, it should show the same thing as screenfetch.

>>62034742
try the drop caches thing anyway

sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

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>no free drivers
>people use available nonfree drivers
>hardware manufractors see no reason to provide source code
>no free drivers
>try to wake up
>can't wake up

>>62034752
Still the same.

BSD has no drivers
t. I like BSD more but use GNU/Linux because it actually works.

>>62034778
linux would never have gained popularty without proprietary drivers, popularity means more people who dont use windoze, so in the end it did more good than evil

>>62034752
Guess I'll reconfigure the kernel again.
There might still be some things that could be disabled or turned into a module.

>>62034833
>implying

>>62034844
what does your make.conf consist of?

>>62034855
I'm not using Gentoo, I'm using Source Mage.

>>62034662
Why use xterm anyway? Why not something like rxvt-unicde?

I'm currently learning how the i3 window manager works and just wanted to know how can I adjust my brightness and volume settings? Multimedia keys don't work. Also how would I adjust them without multimedia keys? Another thing is how can i close windows that won't accept ctrl+alt+q?

>>62034662
Try a hex color.

>>62034882

You can adjust brightness and volume by binding keys to shortcuts which change them. Why do you expect your multimedia keys to work if nothing is "listening" to them?

>>62034872
so what options does the compiler build the programs with? im sure every distro uses make.conf, and i know the BSDs do.

>>62034882
Get out and don't come back until you've read this whole thing https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html

>>62034844
look for shit like these:
-kernel-integrated compression algorhytms (used for initramfs, certain compressing filesystems etc)
-virtual machine guest drivers and optimizations
-legacy shit you will never used

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what is this and why is it "using" 99.99% of IO every 2 seconds?

>>62034906
This is the closest thing to what you're asking that I could find, /etc/sorcery/compile_config:

 LOCAL_COMPILE_CONFIG=${LOCAL_COMPILE_CONFIG:-/etc/sorcery/local/compile_config}
if [[ -e $LOCAL_COMPILE_CONFIG ]]; then
  . $LOCAL_COMPILE_CONFIG
fi

               CCACHE=${CCACHE:-off}
           CCACHE_DIR=${CCACHE_DIR:-/var/cache/compiler}
         DISTCC_HOSTS=${DISTCC_HOSTS:-""}
        JOBS_PER_HOST=${JOBS_PER_HOST:-0}
           MAKE_NJOBS=${MAKE_NJOBS:-1}
     RUN_COMPILER_DIR=${RUN_COMPILER_DIR:-/var/lib/sorcery/build}

>>62035005
I don't think Source Mage has global options like that and I'm not using sorcery to compile the kernel anyway, just plain old `make nconfig`, `make`, `cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-<ver>` and `make modules_install`.
Shouldn't I be able to pass those options while building the kernel like that?

>>62034882
I have A solution for the media keys, but I'll wait a bit and see if anyone has a better (more standard?) answer.
However, I'm curious what windows you're talking about that you can't destroy with your ctrl+alt+q hotkey. The only windows I've ever run into in i3 which wouldn't close from my hotkeys are windows which were broken/frozen

>>62035094
those options are right in menuconfig

>>62035113
Well, like I said >>62034844
I know I disabled virtual machine drivers and I disabled support for initramfs because I don't need it.

>>62035153
it may not be the issue of the kernel. it's all well and good disabling lots of shit on 1 program, but do all the rest have lots of options you don't need enabled and built with optimize for size?

>>62035186
I'll see what I can do about other programs later, but when I boot with `init=/bin/sh`, the only program running besides the kernel is sh (according to htop at least).
And system RAM usage while having only sh+htop running besiedes the kernel is basically kernel RAM usage.
And like I said here >>62034668, kernel alone uses ~18M, kernel+modules (maybe I don't need all of them) is ~27M.

>>62035079
It's a kernel process handling interrupts from some ahci device that you have.

>>62035250
what shell is that? as in is /bin/sh a link to bash or something?

>>62034875
because I am new2linux
>>62034903
will do, thanks

>>62035292
Yep, it links to bash.

>>62035310
try using a lighter shell like dash

>>62035097
Discord wouldn't close.

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>>62035321
Is this good?

>>62035274
I guessed as much, but I wanted to find out more. Like what device exactly and should I even be concerned (I probably should be -- don't remember seeing it ever before).

>>62035357
Might be a problem with your system tray because some applications like discord catch the kill signal and minimize instead. For me it minimizes to the system tray when I close it.

There also might be an option to disable that in discords settings if you would rather the whole application just die instead of minimize.

>>62035387
i don't know much about that system im afraid. you should put "CFLAGS=-Os" in the command to make it build with optimized for size. if that's the correct command for that option. but from what i know that looks fine.

>>62035292
Kernel lets you specify what process it executes as init.
If you put a shell there it will run it as root which is usually done to rescue your system. It's also a reason to consider full disk encryption, since otherwise anyone can modify the boot process and gain root access easily.

>>62035321
Dash is bad for interactive use since it lacks history, command completion, and some other conveniences. Use dash for scripts and bash/ksh/zsh for interactive use.

>>62035419
we're not looking for usability, we're looking for memory optimisations

>>62035414
Not much difference at all, still 18M.

>>62035462
well i'm out of ideas now pham :(

>>62035438
Then you might be better off using busybox.
The busybox shell is a modified (d)ash with command completion and history (I think) and since busybox comes as a single executable you will save some memory because the program code will be loaded only once and shared between all running utilities.

>>62032177
Fun fact: Arch Linux was Canada's way of apologizing for OpenBSD.

>>62035509
I'll reconfigure the kernel and see what else can I drop or make into a module.
Btw these are all the modules my system is using while running normally.

af_packet
fuse
mousedev
snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_codec_generic
x86_pkg_temp_thermal
coretemp
intel_cstate
snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep
snd_hda_core
intel_uncore
thinkpad_acpi
firewire_ohci
intel_rapl_perf
snd_pcm
iwldvm
mac80211
i915
wmi
firewire_core
iTCO_wdt
iwlwifi
cfg80211
e1000e
nvram
snd_timer
rfkill
ptp
lpc_ich
psmouse
evdev
pcspkr
mfd_core
i2c_i801
crc_itu_t
iosf_mbi
unix

I'm sure I don't need all of them, like firewire, I previously left it enabled for some reason, but I guess every little thing makes the kernel bigger.

>>62035618
are you using fuse? isnt that some kind of filesystem module? if you've built all the filesystems you're using into the kernel i don't think you'll be needing it.
are you actually planning to use this system or is it just for fun getting the memory footprint really low?

>>62035645
>i don't think you'll be needing it
I don't think so too.
>are you actually planning to use this system or is it just for fun getting the memory footprint really low?
It's more for fun, I want to get the memory usage as low as possible, but I also want to have a useable system.
I need stuff like snd_hda_intel, i915 and iwlwifi.
I know I could just disable almost everything, but what's the point if it renders the system unusable?

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Fucking GNU/Noob here. Are the suggestion in this article good? Do better programs exist or not? I use Ubuntu 16.04 on a dual boot machine.

https://spreadprivacy.com/linux-privacy-tips/

>>62035738
*suggestions

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Feels good man

>>62035738
Yes, most of those are basic as fug. That list good for starters.

Has anyone noticed the weird behaviour the networkmanager has against wifi cards and especially the intel ones?
The latest debian, stretch, that i've been using since it was testing, has had network manager dying, the service, and the userspace program reported "device not ready".
This problem exists in all my streatch installations, atk9k cards have it too, but the intel ones have tremendous latency when connected, so I presume that the network manager has some serious unresolved issue.
There hasn't been any fuzz around this problem, so i assume that this is exclusive to debian.
I know the card or the driver are not dead since I use command line to connect to networks or sometime wicd, which works fine.
Has anyone seen this problem with networkmanager?
I've tried irc but pretty much is dead. I didn't find any relevant bug report because i didn't know how to seaech this particular issue. Also the kernel only informs me that I couldn't connect to the network.

>>62035882
I have an Intel care and use NM, so no. Maybe it has issues with your card, but not with all Intel cards.

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I have an Asus X552C laptop, with a Mediatek MTE730E WiFi+Bluetooth Combo that's giving me problems since forever (before with Windows, now with Ubuntu). My machine is double boot (Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 16.04, I need both OS), so another /g/entooman here at /fglt/ told me that to replace it with a linux-compatible one I should get something Atheros. So, guys, what would be the best model for it? Something that's available on Amazon (so I'm sure I can get it in Italy), is compatible with the rest and doesn't cost too much, if possible.

>>62035811
Nice. Thank you man.

>>62035944
As i said, it dies with ath9k cards too.
I have also an realtek card and does that too.
I have the same config on my desktop and laptop and does it too.
Seriously, i've been using debian since etch and I am a perma user of testing, i cannot locate the problem no matter how hard I try.

>>62035882
>uses networkmanager
>experiences weird behaviour
you deserve it

>>62035957
I don't know if you want a mpcie card or you are fine with a usb one, but the wn722n is pretty much the best money can get you and it is tested and it is compatible with almost all kali's penetration tests.

>>62035882
Install netctl.

>>62036062
I'll check that, thanks

>>62036022
Do you reproduce the same problem with Arch Linux?

>>62036341
this is relvent how??

>>62036417
Everyone knows that debian can't into wireless.

>>62036450
did you even read his posts? he says he's been fine using debian since etch

>>62036488
>did you even read his posts?
No.

For some reason my Debian boot option disappeared during boot sequence and Windows gets booted by default now. I checked EFI folder and grubx64.efi is still there though I don't know what I can do with it. How can I repair my Debian from situation like this?

>>62036503
i shouldn't have expected an arch user to be competent

>>62036521
I'm not >>62036341 btw.

>>62032177
Fucking BSD weaboos.

>inb4 anime website
>>>/a/
>>>/h/

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>>62036576
This is an anime website.

>install debian
>can't minimise firefox or my start menu thing
Why is this happening to me

>>62036576
>go to anime website
>complain about anime
>go to tech board
>complain about operating systems

>>62036621
xfce doesn't have these problems.

apt-get install task-xfce-desktop

>>62036640
>current year
>apt-get

>>62036625
the state of 4chan

>>62036510
did you update windows? windows fucks with other bootloaders by default and makes itself default. go into BIOS/UEFI and force boot linux.

>>62036668
NT*

What is the best wallpaper for Linux?

>>62036705
> what is the best color for my car
srs

>>62036668
I guess? I have no clue what and when my Windows does. Anyway, I fixed my issue from W10's command prompt:
bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\debian\grubx64.efi

>>62036705
anything anime

>>62036510
Use easybcd to add your Linux install to the Windows boot menu.

>>62036726
basically windows has its own bootmanager, and whenever you update, it will set itself as default, ignoring grub/lilo/whatever.

any dmenu users here? is there a smart way to set dmenu colors from xresources or i3config

>>62036819
man dmenu

>>62036819
patch it, vanilla dmenu can't
>>62036832
fucking retard

>>62036846
i haven't found a patch that could do it. or are there places to look for other than suckless.org

>>62036883
Install rofi. Same as dmenu with lots of features, incl. xressources config.

>>62036832
i think its dmenu -h
not sure if dmenu has manpages

>>62036900
Maybe you should find out.

>>62032177
Shieeet roll

Obligatory /g/ related commend, which is the most battery saving distro for my thinkpad t420? Will I have to give up features of the computer to use it?

>>62036933
> man dmenu
No manual entry for dmenu

>>62036979
>tfw you fall for numerous memes
Get any distro you want and install it from net-install. Use no display manager and install i3wm. There you go, almost no RAM usage and you feel like a hacker.

>>62036987
You should stop using whatever distro you're using right now. They are shipping a broken dmenu package.

Because dmenu obviously does have a manual: http://git.suckless.org/dmenu/tree/dmenu.1

Are there any Games/MMOs that are primarily played by Linux users (i.e. that was/is the primary platform for development)

>>62037032
or maybe i dont have dmenu installed?
find / -name "dmenu"
-- nothing

>>62037083
Very good.

>>62037083
>tries accessing the instructions for a program he doesnt have installed
so this is the power of autism
do you use arch too by any chance?

>>62037083
>locate dmenu

>>62037096
don't know how do i check? i'm a beginner.

>>62034064
>distro hopped like a mad cunt for years
>settled on Arch
Arch is an island.

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Is Fedora the perfect Linux distribution? I might distrohop there from ubuntu I think

>>62037228
no, Debian, Arch, Gentoo, choose from these

>>62037221
Is arch self sufficient or does it rely on trade?

>>62036979

trisquel or debian base install

How do you guys feel about void linux? I'm running Ubuntu right now, but when I've learned more about how to operate linux I'm thinking of hopping to void

>>62037245
i'm new to linux but what about the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) © 2017 Microsoft

i mean you get linux without having to dual boot. it took me 10 hours to install Ubuntu, but when W10 got linux i use that now. MUCH better

>>62037269
It's not on the red hat train so I don't like it.

is KDE Neon still basically unusable with Nvidia cards?

>>62037270
You actually don't get Linux with WSL. It's a subsystem which translates syscalls to loospeak which NT understand.

>>62037270
>WSL
botnet honeypot

Does everyone enable HW acceleration with OpenGL in Firefox? I'm on 55. Why isn't it on by default?

Got me wondering if there's a ton of other useful hardware acceleration type options that are similarly off.

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fuck you firefox
i'm not going blind, you're just shit

>>62037584
I think it might still be buggy as shit

>>62037590
ok bro?

>>62037597
Now I see why Chrome was kicking the fuck out of Firefox, while the Mozilla faggots were worrying about some slightly old driver (this is a Nvidia driver that is supposedly legacy but works fine so fuck the police).

How do I download ice cat to gentoo

>>62038358
install nixos

>>62038362
>>>62038358 (You)
>install nixos
No seriously

>>62038396
I was serious too. Gentoo is deprecated trash.

How so

When I run urxvt -e "emacs -nw" the terminal pops open for a split second and then closes. What I want it to do is to open up the text mode emacs in a new terminal. Is there some emacs option I should use or what?

Archfag here.
What simple commands can I run to diagnose a problem?

From Audio to Internet, to Graphics to Whatever.
Don't want to get caught up on a bad spot.

>>62038747
shutdown now

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>>62038754

>>62038747
dmesg
If all else fails just install moar AUR crap until your shit becomes unbootable

>>62038641

urxvt -e emacs -nw

Remove the quotes, otherwise it try to execute the binary "emacs -nw".

[spoiler]RTFM[/spoiler]

>>62038987
>spoiler

>>62039112
Just for you my dear.

>>62039125
t-thanks sensai

Spent hours trying to install Linux mint on my shitty netbook and got it to boot from USB. The piece of shit is using uefi shit that took forever to get working.
But keyboard doesn't work (no USB keyboard where I'm at right now, only laptop)

Wi-Fi doesn't work and I've spent hours trying to install the fuckers with offline packages without results.

Each time I try to install on a partition it tells me grubi32.efi missing and installation stops.
Last time I installed Linux I never had this many issues. I'm about to burn the fucker.

>>62032177
Roll.

>>62032177
rollin'

>>62039229
Did you try arch?

>>62039229
How did you set up your partitions? I know you're a stupid fuck who didn't bother to read any of the several wikis and guides about uefi, so I'm not going to spoon-feed you here. Just going to tell you to stop being a lazy cunt and figure it out. That shit isn't hard.

Also don't use Linux mint, only literal neo/g/ cunts use that. Go with Debian or Ubuntu or even Nixos if you want to be cool. Not mint.

>>62034199
>>62035563
I was reading about a busybox fork or something called toybox which is smaller than busybox and aimed for embedded systems. If we're RAM golfing, might wanna check that out. Also:

>http://elinux.org/Kernel_Size_Tuning_Guide
>https://tiny.wiki.kernel.org/

:))

>>62037590
What is that small suiseiseki icon?

Am i right in assuming that WM software like i3 is mostly for keyboard usage? For full mouse support like minimizing/maximizing window, or dragging it, i need a DE?

>>62039505
Yeah. There's a new general about twms btw.
Just started using i3 myself, it fucking rocks.

>>62039505
you can probably set a mouse keybind for floating a window, but alt-click/drag is a thing.

>>62039505
Well, kind of. I wouldn't say it's "mostly" for keyboard usage. It's certainly a factor, but I'm using i3 and I can resize and move floating windows just fine. I just usually don't need to.

>>62039575
Meant to say, resize and move with the mouse, of course.

.>>62039425
I read plenty of guides and wikis but most of them did not work. It is a laptop known to have plenty of trouble installing linux. It is an asus x205TA with eMMC storage.

The partitions are like this:
1: UEFI windows boot manager
2: Win10
(these are the two default partitions)
3: FAT32 with grub2 installed (this is from one of the guides)
4: partition intended for linux

I can't use ethernet on this laptop, the keyboard isn't working so I am using the on-screen keyboard.

When installing I have tried the UEFI and FAT32 as boot, and the fourth partition as ext4 and "/" for mount point.

>>62039739
Okay I'll bite. Explain exactly how you set up the partitions. I.e. show me what you said in your last sentence.

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>>62039762
I followed this guide https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=163126

I do as pic attached and it starts copying/installing. At the end it says the grub32efi file is missing and cannot be completed.

>>62039864
>
>>62039762
Tried again, the exact message is
>The 'grub-efi-ia32' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.

>>62039550
>>62039566
>>62039575
Thanks guys! Can i just install Ubuntu minimal without any DE and just install i3 on it? Or will i lose some essential functionality?

>>62039922
no, but it probably will crash like shit.
did for me, at least.
Antergos maybe, but it fucks for me.

Is bash scripting difficult to learn?

>>62039484
ddt

>>62039864
>>62039899
Read the fucking UEFI instructions on the Ubuntu Wiki. You are not doing this right. If you got this far, you can also figure out the rest. Clue: the boot partition is wrong.
I'll warn you, I don't dual boot, so I might be pointing you to that wiki when it's not the best thing to look at, but I followed it after having similar problems to yours and it worked first time.
>>62039922
I did that with Debian netinstall, it works fine, just follow instructions and install xorg and i3 and a couple of others that I don't remember. Check the new general, they'll explain it better.
It's really straightforward though. i3 is worth it.

>>62040044
it's just your usual console commands + logic

>>62040080
How complex does it get?

>>62040044
not really

>>62040070
I'm having a look at the ubuntu wiki now. Thanks bud.

>>62040098
it's a programming language

Long time Gentoo user here. Never given much thought to NixOS but recently read some about it and it sounds interesting. Like for example
>I use some packages that require custom configure flags. NixOS's package system Nix hashes the instructions to build packages. This allows it to download binary versions of packages where there are no modifications, and locally build custom ones. This gives it a convenient compromise between all binary and all source distributions.
I had no idea you could use it like a source distro like Gentoo. So it has similar functionality to Gentoo's USE flags and how good does it work in comparison? If it has something like USE flags that works really well I might consider it. But on the other hand, I really don't like how it abandons hier traditional unix filesystem hierarchy.

>>62035645
I managed to reduce the size of the kernel image to 2.7M.
When I boot into dash, the memory usage is about 14M now.
I'm afraid that I'll fuck something up if I go further, but I'll see what happens.

>>62039450
Interesting.
I'll give those a read.

>>62040166
UNIX filesystem hierarchy and indeed UNIX, (or even C) itself was never something set in stone.

>>62040272
Yeah but this is what was off putting at first glance
bash symlinks into /nix/store/5rnfzla9kcx4mj5zdc7nlnv8na1najvg-bash-4.3.43/
/etc configs symlink too like for example /nix/store/s2sjbl85xnrc18rl4fhn56irkxqxyk4p-sshd_config
But more I read about it, it seems so cool that you can have a source system but also binary too and also each user can have their own packages that wont interfere with others.

>>62034075
works on my machine

>>62040070
>If your disk already contains an ESP (eg if your computer had Windows 8 preinstalled), it can be used for Ubuntu too. Do not format it. It is strongly recommended to have only 1 ESP per disk.

This is what I did the first times, didn't work.
I have almost no options in the BIOS, for the boot I can only change priorities, Secure boot is disabled. I can't change any UEFI/legacy settings at all.

Did I miss adding a /home and swap partition?

>>62040402
As I said, I don't know about dual booting, other than that it's hit and miss and you should really take the OP advice and go all in.

What I had to do to get my UEFI system/GPT drive to work in Ubuntu (I have 1 system with a GPT drive and an old style BIOS and another with UEFI and a GPT drive and the same method worked on both) was to set up a 100mb /boot/efi partition as fat32 (at the start of the drive) and then a single / partition using the rest of the drive and it just werks. I don't use swap because I never need it.

>>62040518
Ok, thanks. I'll wait until my desktop is set up before I single boot this laptop. I don't want to get stranded without any usable OS.

Do you think I could have more luck with another distro? such as Arch linux(Antergos)

Linux first-timer here, should I get LTS or latest Ubuntu?

>>62040598
If you can't get Ubuntu working then don't waste time on arch
Ubuntu is by far the easiest

>>62040601
LTS ffs, this needs to be in the OP if it isn't

>>62040639
Why LTS?

>>62040681
Because fuck off

>>62040690
No, seriously. inb4 more stable. Cmon man.

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>>62032100
Desktop: Windows 10
Server: Windows Server 2016
VM on Server: Arch Linux
VM on Server: FreeBSD
VM on Server: Windows 7

mustard race
proof me wrong

>>62040733
No really, fuck off.
Okay then, yes, it's more stable, everything just werks. The reason most of us use Linux is because everything just werks. LTS is the best example of this. Read the sticky also. And then fuck off.

What do you guys think of Ubuntu Budgie?

>>62040799
enjoy your botnet

Does anyone know where gnome stores its NetworkManager config files?

>>62040799
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

I'm planning on using Ubuntu with Gnome 3 and I want to play one of my Visual Novels on there. More spedifically FSN. How do I approach doing this? I also want to transfer my save if that's possible. Should I use wine?

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>>62041049
>As this page shows, if you do want to clean your computer of malware, the first software to delete is Windows.
kek

>>62041020
/etc/NetworkManager/

what's the best music player for GNU/Linux?

>>62041342

mpv

>>62040823
>>62040690
don't be rude to newfriends

>>62040733
don't use LTS, "stability" is a meaningless buzzword at this point
"unstable" does not necessarily mean "prone to breakage or malfunction", see
https://bitdepth.thomasrutter.com/2010/04/02/stable-vs-stable-what-stable-means-in-software/
if you're not installing it on busyness computers or a server, just get the latest stuff

>>62041351
I'm using mpv for videos currently but I wasn't sure if it was good for music too

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>>62041020
>using gnome
>using networkmanager
>>62040850
>Budgie
>>62040799
>wincuck
>>62040639
>LTS

>>62041446
stop being so fat

yo is calculate linux any good?

>>62041478
stop asking questions and just install gentoo

>>62041483
i tried. D: I'm using a shitbook so it kinda fisted my laptop super hard

>>62041493
use Void in that case

>>62041500
i was considering it, do you have to build your shit from source like you have to with gentoo?

>>62041517
no

>>62041522
awesome. is there a gui installer? or do I have to do it from command line?

>>62041500
>Void
is this the new arch linux for hipsters

>>62041532
it holds your hand step by step
https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Installation

>>62041557
Excellent, thank you. I'll take a crack at it!! :)

>>62041544
>void comes with installer
>arch doesn't
>implying void is more hipster than arch

What is a non-hipster distro for serious persons?

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>>62041680

>>62041697

>using Kali Linux to do everyday things

>>62041680
Alpine

>>62041680
Debian GNU/Hurd

>>62041709
>using Alpine to do everyday things

>>62041731
this, last time I used it it almost ran for an hour before crashing.

>>62041680
Red Hat® Enterprise Linux® delivers military-grade security, 99.999% uptime, support for business-critical workloads, and so much more. Ultimately, the platform helps you reallocate resources from maintaining the status quo to tackling new challenges. It's just 1 reason why more than 90% of Fortune Global 500 companies use Red Hat products and solutions.

>>62041132
that's where the system wide config is stored, but where does gnome store its own networkmanager configs?

>>62041778
Does it support industry standards, too?
Is it lightweight and modular?
What about webscale?

>>62041744
Works perfectly fine on my server and my on my desktop

Semi-unrelated question. But, will there be a significant quality loss converting video from h265 to h264? Assuming I'm copying the video and audio streams in ffmpeg.

My potato laptop cannot handle h265 playback without the occasional frame drop.

>>62041831
Download the x264 version

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>>62041778
>military-grade security
>99.999% uptime

>>62041342
Audacious

>>62041844
Unfortunately that isn't an option. As all x264 copies that I've looked at have no seeders.

I know that there's going to be some quality loss but will it be noticeable?

Is Arch a good step up from Mint in terms of learning about what my computer can actually do as well as compiling my own stuff?

What is currently the best png optimizer for the cli?

>>62041882
I dont belive you.
Did you even try them, more seeds are going to be in the DHT swarm then on some tracker

>>62041888
>mint
>learning about linux
kek

>>62041888
A good step is to open a terminal and lerning to use it.

>>62041902
>implying you can't do the same shit on mint that you can on arch
>learning about linux
its a kernel

I started using antergos a few days ago and pragha is too basic. anyone have suggestions for music players they like?

>>62041915
Linux has evolved to me more then just the kernel. Its an environment.

>>62041943
cli:
mpv
mpd+ncmpcpp
moc
cmus
gui:
deadbeef

>>62041952
nah, it's still a kernel

>>62041983
>moc
Awwww. I miss moc. Nice little player.

>>62032177
Rollerino

>>62042024
>>>/b/

>>62041983
Nah, its an environment of various tools.

>>62042066
http://kernel.org/

>>62042111
So a bently is only the shell of the car?

How's herbstluft wm? Anyone using it?

>>62042123
It's just a shape. You can even make one out of paper mache if you want

How do you add that list of specs and the logo and whatnot to your terminal?

What DE should I use for a laptop? Want it to have good customization.

>>62036056
>>>62035957
>I don't know if you want a mpcie card or you are fine with a usb one
What is the difference between the two?

>but the wn722n is pretty much the best money can get you and it is tested and it is compatible with almost all kali's penetration tests.
Thanks mate, I will check it out.

>>62042443
fluxbox

>>62042473
I was looking at Linux Mint XFCE, but fluxbox doesn't seem to be for that distro unless I'm just retarted? Extremely new linux user here btw

>>62042503
If you want something easy you can tweak, Xfce and MATE are standard. Don't expect a lot of special effects though.

>>62042432
screenfetch,neofetch,ufetch

>>62042503
You can install fluxbox on any distro.
Check your community repo or if your distro is shit you may have to compile it your self

>>62042516
Special effects such as?

>>62042443
openbox

>>62042528
>>62042473
The guy asked for a DE. Those are WMs.
>>62042443
xfce

>>62042443
>for a laptop
Any DE runs fine on any toaster. Install what you like.

I am having issues booting Linux live CD or even off an install because I am getting driver errors for having a Nvidia card. Some distros work with nomodeset but sometimes it black screens.

>>62042774
Forgot to add, can I get past this by installing Linux with my iGPU and then installing the Nvidia drivers then booting from my video card?

>>62042788
worth a shot.
>>62042774
just take it out first.

Can someone share a good mpv config, please?

>>62042961
The default one is fine. The rest is just placebo

>>62042443
MATE

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>>62040881
>>62041049
>>62041446
>all those virgins living in their parent's basement

when you rely on a hobbyist OS in production you know, you made a mistake in life

don't get me wrong, there are things that work pretty nice on linux
but that's as far as it goes
using it as a main system is just a liability

>b-but why not BSD server
sure, at least a way better idea than linux
but when you already work in the windows userland, you gotta use its full potential

same reason why apple fags should only use other apple products
mixing apple with devices from other companies is just a waste of money

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>>62043100
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>62043100
windows is cool as gaming console, but for serious work it's simply trash, especially on the server

>>62043100
see >>62041049

Amateur kernel developer here

Are there any USB devices that you're missing drivers for?
Excluding WiFi

Yo, what file directory is where the software data is stored??

>>62044209
/

>>62044225
Wise guy eh? Could you be more specific please

>>62044440
What do you mean with "software data"?

I just installed arch on my NVME drive and I cannot got my Ethernet working. When I run ip link my devices are down and I'm not sure what to do.

>>62044499
I mean like say I install firefox, I know that the binary is in /bin , but where are the other files stored

>>62044540
Sounds to me like you a driver is missing or a kernel module is not loaded

>>62044549
/usr/share

Your package manager can tell you all the files. On Debian or Ubuntu it's

dpkg -L firefox

>>62044555
Any idea what to do?

>>62044540
Lspci -k
does it show a module loaded for your thing?

Can someone help me how to delete a certain line on bash.bashrc on ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Im just new and currently learning.

>>62044579

>>62044581 is a good start

>>62044583
You could use nano, just type 'nano ~/.bashrc' and Ctrl + X to save

>>62044696
Thanks man, Worked like charm

>>62032177
Rrrrrooolrooo

>>62039505

No, don't fall for the meme and myths spreaders.
Learn what things are before believing crap you read on here. A "DE" (desktop environment) has a window manager. When you use X, you always use a window manager. You can install the window manager from a "DE".

Minimizing/maximizing is a window manager's job, it has nothing to do with a "DE". Those pretentious idiots use i3 and it's primarily a tiling window manager (supports floating and tabs though too) and that's why there's no need to minimize or drag windows. You can "get" dragging and maximizing even if you install "just a WM". You just have to install a floating/stacking window manager, because those are features their modus operandi offers.

>>62041779

There.
If you still doubt, use the find program.

>>62041779
>>62044988

Forgot to add, also look into gsettings and list keys which might have to do with NM.

So I'm on this laptop, and I recently started connecting it to a monitor with hdmi. I use i3, and configure the monitor using xrandr. I also have a separate gaming pc that I use on the same monitor. When I'm going to use laptop+monitor or pc+monitor, I put the mouse, keyboard and speakers from one into the other, but I have two hdmi cables so I don't change it.

Everytime I start using laptop+monitor, I have to "xset -b" because the shitty beep sound is back. When I'm using the laptop alone I don't have this problem because it's probably the first config I changed. How can I make the beep off persist with the monitor+laptop setup?

>>62032177
ayy

>>62032177
Rolling!

Whats with the S_baseX variable names in .Xresources? I can use whatever I want for a name

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Is the goal of something like i3 to end up not using a mouse at all and be a wizard with keyboard shortcuts or is the mouse still used a lot anyway?

>>62032177
get a gud 1

>>62046147
yes. i only use trackpoint, mostly for smooth scrolling

>>62046147
i have to use a laptop for reasons, and using keyboard is easier than using touchpads

>>62046147
It depends how far you want to go. Nobody is stopping you from using it to focus windows or drag shit around.
Though you can certainly eliminate a lot of the use of the mouse.

New thread?

>>62047291
yes please

> Forces an ugly ass top bar that has zero function besides a clock and systemtray
> Completely removes systemtray support

How fucking retarded are the GNOME devs exactly?

-> -> -> >>62047664

>>62032177
rollan