Is there a replacement?

Mumble has all of that except saving a chat history, and I think you could mod a server to do that.

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>>62027987
does it respect your freedomz?

Telegram

>>62028115
Yes
Also, mumble's voice codec isn't shit like discord's is.

>>62028115
Yep, it's GPL.

Delta.chat

>>62027983
tox has all that

>>62027983
Sounds like Wire to me.

>>62028160
Is voice chat any good. I use it as a messanger and quite pleased thia far. Never tried calls.

>>62028267
Telegram's encryption is shit. You are literally better off using WhatsApp than Telegram.

>>62027983
Hardmode:
>Minimal setup required
>Actually has people using it

>not using IRC

>>62028262
Does Wire have voice?

>>62027983
>you can upload files to
Wire can do this. I just tried sending an entire movie through it. At least in theory, it works.

>has a text chat that saves chat history so when you open it again, you will see what you missed
Wire does this

>Voice chat
Wire has this, both in groups and person-to-person. Ditto for video chat

>phone app, linux version, windows version, mac version
Wire is on Android, iOS, Linux, Windows, and Mac, yes.

Wire is also open source, encrypted end-to-end with fingerprint verification, and looks very nice. Oh, and you can make voice/video chat show up on the call log of iOS. Don't know about android.

>>62028331
Voice and video, yes.

We should make one. I'll start on the logo.

>>62028179
I thought they both used opus

>>62028359
They do, although whatever mumble is doing, they're doing it better. Also mumble's voice detection is way more configurable.

>>62028333
Wire is unstable garbage in groups, stop shilling it until they fix that.

>>62028881
I haven't had any issues with groups on my mobile (iOS), or on desktop regarding text. I haven't tried voice/video chat on desktop, because I completely disabled my built in webcam and mic with wirecutters, and don't have any interest in investing in 3rd party shit when my iPhone works just fine.

>>62028333
Who the fuck even uses Wire

>>62029108
Not him, but, to be fair, OP didn't say that a certain number of people needed to use it.

>>62027983
IRC with a bouncer, some random pomf for files.

Something like mumble can do voice if you need that.

>>62027983
Yeah, Skype.

i ackchually made an ajaxy self-hosted irc frontend that can do all of those things (except for voice because mumble and apple because i can't into ios development). it works fine, all my friends are using it instead of hosted botnet shit for chatting.

Slack have voice chat yet?

>>62029211
I thought skype died on Linux.

Riot

>>62027983
Theres plenty of messengers that have all of these. The problem is that none of them have that "server" model with multiple text and voice channels for a single community. You either get that model (with actual servers) with something like Mumble or Teamspeak or you get a proper messenger layout with things like Riot or Wire or whatever, never both.

They're asking my mobile number, I give up. Discord is trash.

wire

>>62027983
literally riot. Its better than discord in every way, doesn't spy on you, can be connected through irc as well, and has upload limits of 100mb

>>62027983
Wire app
Mumble

>>62027983
Retroshare.

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>>62028355
this meme is cool

>>62027987
>>62028179
Yes but does mumble have [spoiler]emojis[/spoiler]

>>62030787
Riot with it's user base of under a thousand lmao

>>62027983
Telegram

>>62027983
Yes.

https://riot.im

We even have our own web gateway, check out https://totallysafe.website/#/room/#general:banter.city to get started.

>>62031969
>Discord, with its userbase of millions of annoying, useless faggots ERPing.

Quality over quantity is the heart of the issue anon. If quantity matters that much to you, please head on over to Reddit, they have vastly more users than 4chan.

>>62027983
Hipchat does all of that, and can be private servers or cloud hosted.

>>62030787
>>62032004
Matrix WAS supposed to be a literal alternative, but matrix/riot has always been severely lagging behind discord in features for a year or two
Their protocol is still in draft form, last time I've checked they don't officially support group voice chat (riot doesn't count because it's doesn't conform it's own specs)
On top of that, sponsors have pulled the plug on matrix a month or so ago because of it's slow development, and now it depends on free servers and patreon handouts

>>62032057
>Riot doesn't count
It's the flagship client furthest along at supporting all facets of the protocol, and it is what you would normally recommend somebody use when accessing the Matrix network.

If group chat works on Riot, it works, regardless of whether other clients or the official spec is lagging behind the actual implementation.

It always depended on other people, it's a distributed network.

>>62031981
By a few updates it might be able to get voice chat and a sub group thing like discord

After that it basically wins

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>>62027983
Discord now has video chat and screensharing.

https://blog.discordapp.com/were-testing-video-chat-and-screen-share-with-5-of-players-today-c8ddb108ca31

>>62027983
Who gives a fuck, talk to people irl you autist

>>62028417
sorry cant use mumble due to cracks and pops still going on

discord has it too, but not as much
and guess what
ts3 does not have it.

>>62032187
Most likely not everyone you talk to online lives within walking distance. I talk to people on the other side of the world all the time. I can't afford to keep taking thousand-dollar plane trips to Frankfurt and back all the time.

Slack. If you want to use an alternative to slack calls for voice chat you can use mumble or teamspeak, which by the way also meets all your criteria for a discord replacement.

>>62032145
>If group chat works on Riot, it works, regardless of whether other clients or the official spec is lagging behind the actual implementation.
It's almost like XMPP's history never taught anyone anything at all
Not having proper specs/standards makes it harder for other people to contribute
So now you're locked onto Riot/Synapse, which are both subpar (synapse has 1 GB of ram in requirements, is this a joke?)

>It always depended on other people, it's a distributed network.
It has gotten this far because it had paid specialists working on the protocol, clients and libraries
Now they barely have enough money for one dev working on it half-time
They couldn't solve the group voice chat problem for two years now and with funding cut, they probably won't solve it at all

>>62027983
WIRE.

>>62032179
I could not make a more cancerous video if I tried. Fat paki, chink bitch, cucked white men who get to appear after the diversity parade

Yes. IRC.
1 - use an external image host or irc network's one
2 - use a bouncer, read logs
3 - connect multiple people to a network filesystem and upload individual voices. Then use mp3fs or ffmpeg to transcode and/or merge into one audio stream and play it.
4 - irc works on everything.

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>>62027987
>>62028179
Mumble needs a UI refresh.

>>62028179
Discord uses Opus. You can't really get much better than that.

>>62032354
Dendrite is still being developed, as is Ruma at the moment. Synapse isn't too bad either, it just demands a lot of memory.

The project is still being developed, Riot is still getting new features, and Matrix itself works fine.

>>62028160
This. Fucking this

>>62028267
Voice chats is good. Calls are even better than Whatsapp. Never tried discord though

>>62033167
wait did MUMBLE COPY TS3? holy shit they look identical

>>62033123
That's really a lot of unnecessary legwork, IRC is truly stuck in the 80s
Even if you use a bouncer, most clients don't work very well with it (e.g. you can't easily access backlog the way you can in Riot or Discord)

>>62033472
Use a bloated client with that then.

>>62028279
Yes, proprietary encryption is way better than FOSS, anon.

Retard.

What's the Discord icon supposed to be anyway? Is it supposed to be a controller?

I always thought it was some big eyed Miku at first glance.

>>62033071
Post a picture of your uncucked white self so we can see an example of a truly alpha white male.

>>62027983
Skype

>>62028262
my only issue with wire is lack of f-droid app. it has been brought up to them and is on their 'roadmap' but it's been a long while with no word of it actually happening

>>62029108
I use it as a secondary chat after Hangouts, I try to migrate my friends to it periodically.

>>62033472
irssi + tmux on a server you don't shutdown is pretty solid

why does everyone hate discord so much its actually really good quality

>>62034618
It's literally a chrome browser with voice chat, except it's privacy intrusive.

>>62034618
Because it's not libre and actually good, so it managed to grab userbase of the dying Skype while all open-source projects were eating paste, killing any hopes for libre communication in next 5 years or so

>>62034618
This is /g/, not /v/, we care about free software, privacy, security, etc. It's not just about how cool it looks or how 'well' it works.

>>62034716
>>62034745

how is it privacy intrusive? ive been using it since day one and have had no issues. also met two of the developers at a furry convention and they were super nice. and i dont think discord has big enough of a user base to go completely botnet

I want to start using Mumble but I doubt my normie friends would actually switch to it

>>62033335
Wtf, you should get your eyes checked my dood. Beside black text with white background, there is nothing identical between the two.

>>62034802
>I don't think discord has much of a userbase

Honestly wanted to believe this post wasn't bait despite the red flags before, but now...

>>62034773
>It's not just about how cool it looks or how 'well' it works.

haha hell yeah bro
*makes another desktop/battlestation thread with pictures full of redundant garbage just to make the subject look better*

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>>62034802
>also met two of the developers at a furry convention

>>62034745
Are you retarded? Mumble is light and godlike. The only difference between it and discord is that discord has bots, emojis and a permanent chat. And you have all this shit on facebook which also has a desktop client which is 99% similar to discord since they're both electron based. Electron is bloat desu.
Wire is another good alternative, but also electron based.

>>62034802
See this pasta:
reminder
https://puu
.sh/xa1Zb/64de0cedfb.webm

>>62034842
and you'll notice it's not a proprietary goober fest in those threads either.

do you need me to show you the door or can you find it?

>>62034842
Aesthetics are not unimportant, I'm just saying free software and functional software are important as well. In desktop threads you see people working to make things look better and work better, and generally they're using all free software to do it, on a really good operating system. Discord is built on garbage with a decent paint job. I hope you can see the difference here. I'm not gonna speak for battlestation threads, I think leaving the realm of software makes the comparison too sloppy.

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>>62027983
you forgot video call and convincing your friends to switch to another platform which most likely wont happen

>>62034871
Video call is what's going to kill the platform though. It uses an incredible amount of resources. It will be a few months at most before ads show up.

>>62034825
how many normies have you seen using discord? no one did when i was in highschool and i have yet to see anyone at my college even know what it is. yes it has a huge presence online but who do you think the target demographic is for data scooping? its normies. theres more of them and they shop more. big companies like google dont give a shit about fat neck beards that just watch loli porn.

>>62034845
i hate to break it to you but im not trolling about that one. i seriously did. i said it more as bait but it did really happen.

>>62034863
>aesthetics of a voice client are important
Not really though. Mumble and teamspeak pretty much nail it.

>>62034927
I was more arguing for desktop threads than anything. I'm on the anti-discord side of this.

>>62034895
You should stop now, no one is going to believe you given the bullshit you're saying You just can't be that dumb without pretending.

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>>62034895
A fucking ton. Gayming is not some secret club hobby anymore. And ad companies love gaymers anyway since they will pay a premium traditionally for things associated with gayming.

>>62034857
Mumble used to be absolute garbage, it didn't even had a per-user volume slider back then when I had to decide between TS and Mubmle when hosting

Not having persistent history is a big issue, with discord you can seamlessly switch between devices (it's 2017 now, most people have multiple computers, smartphones, tablets, etc.)

Also, does mumble support connection to multiple servers at the same time? What if I need to be available to two people who are on different servers?

>>62034891
If they're not naive retards then video will be peer to peer and automatically adjust resolution and bitrate so you're not pulling 6 HD streams for a grid display of 400x400 boxes.

>>62034933
Sorry anon, I wasn't the person you were arguing with. Just jumped into this thread. Discord isn't bad as an app, but I dislike it's policies. If it were end-to-end encrypted at least and had the ability to host your server (on your actual network) it would be fine. It should also be open source, even the desktop version of the Facebook messenger is open source (though it's not official, I think).

>>62033167

>no anime emoji

Into le trash

>>62029828
You too? They started asking for mine yesterday. I haven't opened Discord sincerely then. I'm not giving my number or even a burner to those data-selling cocksuckers.

>>62029828
>>62035106
You might be on some guild where the owner has enabled 2FA as a requirement, I doubt it has anything to do with Discord itself

>>62034816
>normie
Don't worry, you're one of them.

>>62035169
nah not really

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>>62035158
I thought the same as well but after checking Discord's site I should only have issues with that server, not the entire account.

>>62027983
telegram is miles ahead of discord, when you compare the two it is honestly pathetic how bad discord is

The only thing it's missing is group calls, I never use that on discord anyways

>>62029828
>They're asking my mobile number, I give up. Discord is trash.
Telegram requires a mobile number as well, however it is FOSS and its used in a similar way to a username, you'll never actually need access to the number again after the first time

I recommend using pinger or something to make a telegram account

>>62029226
yes, and video calls

>>62035247
Tried logging in from a desktop client/browser?

>>62035254
>however it is FOSS
Only the client

Plus it doesn't help that Durov is an ex-vk co-owner and actively working with governments

>>62035318
Browser and desktop on multiple platforms. I just called it a day and went back to irc. I'll probably just use one of my burners later down the road since the majority of my friends have moved to Discord.

>>62035247
I'm having this issue as well. I'm not giving discord my mobile tho.

The support said it's not possible to "manually remove" the lock, so I just uninstalled discord.

>>62035247
>>62035627
>2017
>still using SIM cards

>>62035687
what is the other option?

>>62036090
WiFi

Twitch.

>Discord gets popular
>Used one time as a GNAA funzone
>Discord jews everyone's privacy and possibly has a leftist reading all of your private chats and listening in on your calls

Get jewed again gaymers

>>62036234
They even analyse every single image sent to their servers (I'm not trolling) trying to find loli pics.

>>62033167
>Not using the nightly..

>>62027987
>>62028160
Yeah, but if you want to replace a program you are looking for something better. Mumble and Telegram are both shit.

>>62028223
Tox is a dead project.

>>62028327
>for obvious reasons
Is1997 or 2017?

>>62034361
Of course. Let's buy a server to properly use a an instant messenger.

>>62038495
the core got forked to toktok

>>62038617
Yeah anon... now its future is much more brighter.
>it will die again

>>62038495
> Is1997 or 2017?
Well we are using http protocol since 1995's.

>>62038674
probably but there is no equivalent alternative

>>62027983
Instead of boycotts which do nothing, do what SJWs do and succeed at. Write strongly worded email about what you find disagreeable about their practices.

>>62038495
>Let's buy a server to properly use a an instant messenger.
plenty of free shell accounts out there perfect for this very purpose
or just use a bouncer, its not at all hard to get scrollback with znc

>>62027983
>filesharing
choose your pomf clone or use dcc
>text chat
irc does this and does it well, znc gives scrollback
xmpp also does this (poorly)
>voice chat
mumble
>smartshit app
plenty of irc apps, mumble too, but you should stop using smartshit.

or just use tox
this thread is retarded

>>62034618
>Cannot preview voice chat so volume levels and background noise cannot be adjusted
>AGC on by default, trash mics are the worst here.
>Botnet
>150mb of RAM

Yeah, no thanks.