/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about which is more of a technical superiority instead of a — this religious belief in freedom.

>There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
>-- Linus Torvalds

>>62007740
What the hell, kid. Seriously.

>>62007757
In this exhibit you can see the stallmanist suffering from cognitive dissonance as he learns the truth behind his beloved false idol.

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>>62007740

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>>62007647
TALK TO ME GNU/oose!!!!

>>62007966
You are asking people to give up their values, of course you are trying to divide people. Free software (as opposed to just open source) has the same goal. Rather than allowing proprietary and free software to live together in harmony, GNU licenses seek to infect every codebase they live in, rejecting every line that does not accept their personal definition of free.

>>62007740
>>>/flt/with your friends.

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>>62008022
>GNU licenses seek to infect every codebase they live in, rejecting every line that does not accept their personal definition of free.
This is indeed the best hack rms gave to humanity.

>>62008060
Why don't you grow a fucking brain, you pathetic imbecile.

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>post OC memes on r/linuxmemes routinely for a while as a test
>never fails they wind up being posted on /g/ and in /fglt/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTbq8NaQRsU

>>62008418
Reddit is awesome.
You should stay there.
btw I just created a plebbit account just to do the shit you said, but over there.
Why?
Because you're a dick.
That's why.

>>62008541
Kill yourself faggot

REALLY like xfce. hade KDE. used to like gnome but now i want to change it even on my main laptop

>>62008571
Ohboy. Now I gotta create 17 reddit shit threads for that one. You're really really incoveniencing me.

>>62008627
>Now I gotta create 17 reddit shit threads for that one
What is that mean?

This thread is kinda dead now. Guess I'll go over to reddit and be a complete fucking asshole and see how many people's day I can ruin.
And you know what? Reddit dicks actually deserve it.
They're generally shitheads, amiright?
And what's the deal with those retards all seeming to think that once something's been on reddit, it should never ever be posted anywhere else? Like they fucking own it now or something. Anything from reddit carries the taint, but they don't own fuck all. What a bunch of fucking shitstains. Fuck reddit. Fuck redditors. Fucking brainless hivemind semi-literate grammar nazis and misinformed fact checkers and upboat karma whores.
Fucking dicks. Every single one.
Reddit fucking sucks.

>>62008713
He doesn't know how to start a plebbit thread.

I'm on Linux Mint 18.1. The update manager shows a kernel update, but I haven't been doing it. Do I really need to update the kernel? I thought that security updates were backported to older kernel versions.

>>62009065
yes....

>>62009065
x.x.the third numbers are drivers and other features. the final 4th is patchlevel ~security and bug fixes.
But I've been using arch for about two years and have never had an issue with a kernel update with "update everything" or even with manually installing latest stable ubuntu mainline kernels.

so fresh install of arch and the text/icons are too small to read at a regular distance. I installed xorg-xrandr and used it turn up my DPI but it didn't really help. For the record I have HP Pavilion 22bw

>>62009195
>arch.
I meant linux mint.

>>62009088
>>62009195
thanks

>>62009284
You can also delete old kernels from the view > kernels window of that update applet, but it's not a bad idea to have a fallback kernel.

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Thoughts on Qubes? How long until you will consider it a usable OS for day to day activities?

>>62009370
It's already usable for day to day activities.
You just need min 8 GB's of ram for it to be decent at it. All those independent instances gobble it up.

hi, what do I need to unlearn from vim to use vi?

>>62009636
every shortcut.

Does anyone know how to add persistence (on a USB) to live kali linux boot? On Mac osx

Does someone have a guide to using Gentoo with the minimal c stage3?

>>62009900

You can't do this with UNetbootin?

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>>62007647
I'm using Debian Sid. What are the top worst case scenarios I must be equipped to deal with in case a crucial "brown-paper-bag" bug slips through the cracks?

I'm not a newbie but I'm also not sure if I have what it takes to deal with the worst yet.

Pls no "have backups" responses, I've got that covered.

Should I just have a liveUSB with Debian on it, or what?

I've been going through the links in the op trying to find a distro to start with, but I'm struggling.

I'm looking for something as lightweight as possible that can be installed without internet. I read on the fglt website that debian can be light, but I'm installing on a shitty laptop, and I'm worried that my hardware won't be supported. From what I've gathered I need internet to install arch/gentoo. Should I just get Mint since it's retard friendly and try to remove as many packages as I can?

>>62011024
>try to remove as many packages as I can
Bad idea, specially if you don't know what you're doing.

Just get Lubuntu and call it a day. Or Debian with LXDE if you're feeling a bit more adventurous. LXDE is a great mixture of retard friendly and lightweight on toasters.

I need some help again.
I think my problem is just that I suck at iptables.
I'm trying to transparently proxy every connection from my computer to the internet through Tor, and I'm trying to do this with iptables rules. Everything seems to work like it should, my ipv4 and ipv6 traffic both get routed properly and non-routeable traffic gets dropped. My only problem is getting TorDNS to work. I have it running on port 5353, and iptables should be forwarding all traffic to the default 53 port to my TorDNS port. And this is where it gets weird, iptables really seems to be forwarding my address lookups to TorDNS because when I kill Tor, I cant look any addresses up. But I can't resolve .onion addresses at all, and sites like dnsleaktest.com show me my ISP's DNS server.
What the hell is going on and how do I fix this?

>>62007647
Been getting help on
>https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/refracta/extra-boot-stuff-t747.html
stumped on this bs...

>>62009900
mom i'm a h4ck3r
seriously, just don't, it wasn't made for this

>>62011577
And I forgot these, here's my iptables.rules and ip6tables.rules:

*nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [6:2126] :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [17:6239] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [6:408] -A PREROUTING ! -i lo -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 5353 -A PREROUTING ! -i lo -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9040 -A OUTPUT -o lo -j RETURN --ipv4 -A OUTPUT -d 192.168.0.0/16 -j RETURN -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner "tor" -j RETURN -A OUTPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 5353 -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9040 COMMIT *filter :INPUT DROP [0:0] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] :OUTPUT DROP [0:0] -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT --ipv4 -A INPUT -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset --ipv4 -A INPUT -p udp -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable --ipv4 -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-proto-unreachable --ipv6 -A INPUT -j REJECT --ipv4 -A OUTPUT -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j ACCEPT --ipv4 -A OUTPUT -d 192.168.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT --ipv6 -A OUTPUT -d ::1/8 -j ACCEPT -A OUTPUT -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner "tor" -j ACCEPT --ipv4 -A OUTPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable --ipv6 -A OUTPUT -j REJECT COMMIT

And I have these following lines in my torrc:

DNSPort 5353 AutomapHostsOnResolve 1 AutomapHostsSuffixes .exit,.onion

Does installing Steam and proprietary nVidia drivers defeat the purpose of using GNU/Linux?

I'm curious if VAC is installed on Linux and if the nVidia drivers run telemetry like on Windows.

>>62010711
Basically just getting your packages in a state where apt refuses to do anything if you don't fix shit but it won't dl stuff to fix it because you haven't fixed it yet. And that case you can fix by either opening aptitude and choosing one of its suggestions or grabbing and old version of the troublesome package from snapshots.debian.org and using dpkg -i to install that.

>>62011682
stallman would argue it's against the point, but linus wouldn't
personally i'd say that the point is that you can do whatever you like with the software, and that includes running software on it that doesn't allow you the freedom to do what you want with it
basically, you have the freedom to choose

1. Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading.

2. If you want to use any propietrary software, just put it into sandbox such as firejail. Then you can be sure it isn't going to get out out and use telemetry.In other words... SANDBOX EVERY PROPIETRARY SOFTWARE YOU HAVE IN YOUR POSESSION!

>>62011682
>Does installing Steam and proprietary nVidia drivers defeat the purpose of using GNU/Linux?
I see you have been taken in by the exctremist libre rants. Only a minority of linux users use it because they are triggered by proprietary software.

>>62011783
>Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading.
That isn't true at all.

>>62011783
>1. Don't install official NVIDIA drivers, they were good once ago, but now Nouveau is leading.
unless something has changed recently, this is only true for the free AMD driver, not nouveau

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>>62011799
(amdgpu-pro = proprietary, mesa = free)

>>62009390
An OS that requires 8 Gb of RAM to work? And people bitch at Windows. Why?

>>62011829
Ah, I kinda see (from the wiki page), compartments, Chinese boxes.

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Anything I should change to boot Linux? I had a problem starting it on a PC, maybe I did something wrong here.

>>62011783

>telemetry
What telemetry(tm)? Stop using buzzwords created by proprietary software to make collecting data sound better.

>>62011872

Stop using Linux Mint.
Install Ubuntu with Cinnamon.

>>62012069
1) Why?
2) Is for work and I was asked to install Mint

>>62012079

Because it's a shitty downstream distribution which doesn't contribute anything apart from bugs and problems. You are using an outdated Ubuntu for no reason.

>>62012100
Whatever, I still have this problem to deal with, Mint or Ubuntu.

>>62012381

BIOS/UEFI problem: you didn't choose the device to boot from or the priorities are messed up.

>>62012413
The Linux Mint boot menu works, I start the thing and it stops working giving me that no signal thing while displaying a bunch of lines like "No Caching mode page present"

That feel when you finally write a bash script to convert your space-consuming flac files to ogg. Never felt the need to learn bash before.

>>62012923
>-
Good for you friend. Maybe next time it'll be more than a one-liner

>>62008434
reeee
that was just stallmanquest retitled

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Do you guys have any idea what going on here? I'm trying to boot off USB

>>62007647
>"I want/need things that are always guaranteed to work out. I don't care about the details, I just care about whether my needs/wants are catered"
>egodystonic
>very dependent
Ubuntu

>"I love to impress my family, friends, colleague and acquaintances. I have too much confidence in myself. I'm also trying hard to be a l33t haxor"
>prefers to wear shirt that are one size less or shorter pants
>is most likely a manlet and doesn't wear socks
Kali

>"I like uptime more than anything else and I prefer to choose things that are known to work than going against the flow"
>prefers the road most travelled than unknown shortcuts
>outgoing
Debian

>"I am a phantom in the stage people call 'world' and I like to use tools where I have total and absolute control over and be able to use it to its maximum"
>have total control of the 4th dimension called time and is very flexible when making tasks
>is most likely taller than average and have a very hunky body and husky voice
Gentoo

>"I am one step ahead of everybody else even with this imperfect human body. I can get things done at the end of the day - it's all that matters"
>probably below or above the average BMI
>very impatient and likes to do/fix it as fast as possible "begin last, finish first" is their favorite saying
Fedora

>"I prefer simplicity and most of all the beauty in the little things that matters and matters not"
>have total and absolute control over ego and desires
>optimal physique and very precocious while having a cute voice TL;DR u r a qt
Arch

>"I prefer to get things done but I don't want to deal with everyone's problems. I am a centrist.
>just get shit over with
>probably don't care about what is blabla or what isn't blabla
OpenSuse

>"I prefer to use technology for working or personal reasons and be able to use simple tools that will get the job done fast"
>most likely a developer or an underground fucko
>knows their shit though
*BSD (except osx)

>>62013177
After 30 mins it booted in and its slow as molasses, mouse movements take upwards of 10s to register

Actually now it's just completely frozen

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What did he mean by this?

How good is wine for playing visual novels?

>>62013177
>>62013481
Do this is the power of Linux in the desktop, I spent almost 20 mins filling out the installer info at less than 1fps/10s and now that it's installed it's just as slow on my SSD I don't even know what to say

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>>62014205
has worked fine with the few i've tried

>>62014135
That he really doesn't give a shit about anything other than the freeness of software. Even things like social conventions, worthless. The freeness of art? Irrelevant. World hunger? lol.

>>62014135
fake and gay

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>>62014611
He does send some silly mails though.

Just realised I don't need wine anymore, so I removed it and all lib32- packages.

» sudo pacman -R $(paclist multilib | cut -f1 -d' ')
error: no targets specified (use -h for help)

I guess it's safe to remove multilib now?

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I'm looking for a FOSS code analyzer in the likes of Locmetrics, any recommendations?

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>>62014611

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>>62015332
>>62014611

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H-hey /fglt/!

Is there a low bloat e-mail client on GNU+linux I can use instead of mozilla thunderbird?

Preferably with the option to import my accounts from thunderbird.

>>62015459
mutt?

>>62015465
Does it support newsgroups too?

I forgot to mention that.

>>62015516
please re submit your question with the right information

>>62015609
Is there a low bloat e-mail and newsgroup client on GNU+linux I can use instead of mozilla thunderbird?

Preferably with the option to import my accounts and subscriptions from thunderbird.

>>62015459
claws-mail is nice

Anybody else having problems with the last wine update on Arch?
Tried a few things and 2/3's of them give "Floating point exception". Downgraded to 2.14-1 for now and everything works just fine.

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Why aren't you using gtop?

>>62016364

Looks like it would cause a 50% CPU utilization itself.

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Okay, that is it. I was shilling unity and shitting on kde just a week ago, but now I am done. What is the best distro with kde? And I am not very fond of upgrading all the time.

[spoiler]
KDE global menu when?[/spoiler]

>>62016364
>cant kill processes from list
>>>/trash/

>>62007647
systemd 234.11 leaks
>memory

>>62010711
>Sid
why
>implying testing

>>62016284
have you noticed moar ram used for nothing recently

>>62016674
openpepe according to /g/ folklore

So, I had been using Antergos for about 8 or so months and it just shit the bed so I'm looking to use this restarting as a chance to potentially switch to a different OS, anyone have any recommendations? I've gotten gradually pretty familiar with Linux and it's workings but I still do wanna learn more. Anyone have any OS recommendations?

inb4 install Gentoo

highkey not tryna dedicate my body and soul to linux

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if I want to run just Debian with i3 and no DE, what crucial things will I need to replace? Pic kinda related

>>62016674
KDE is a metapackage.
Basically a list of packages.
Make package manager list what metapackage pulls in
Copy paste the obvious deps and the stuff you know you want into cli install command, and let your package manager sort out the rest.
When I used arch, there was a full kde metapack, a lite version, and separate kde-games and such metapaks. There was a way you could get pacman to install the metapaks and then delete the metapackage itself without removing the packages it pulled in. I've also seen the same idea detailed for other distros, but don't remember the exact commands.

>>62016749
>have you noticed moar ram used for nothing recently
No. Should I? Everything is fine apart from wine-2.15-1

I want to put a lightweight distro on an old laptop with an i3 and 4gb of ram so my mom can browse with it. What's something that's secure that I can setup once and forget about it?
Preferably something that'll update automatically. I was considering Lubuntu, Zorin Os, or PcLinuxOs.

>>62017290

>shitty downstream distributions (except for Lubuntu)

Install Ubuntu on it and forget about it.

arch is a stepping stone

>>62017290
>giving your mum 13

>Just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people.
>-- Torvalds, Linus

>>62017349
>implying he likes any kernel other than his own

>"I claim that Mach people (and apparently FreeBSD) are incompetent idiots."

Will Aur packages auto update with pacman -Syu?

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How susceptible is ext2 to corruption?
Would it be safe to use on a 1TB external HDD?

>>62017393
no

>>62017310
Any reason not to go with Lubuntu?

>>62017460
The same as it would be with any other filesystem, it depends on how you treat it

>>62017715
What would happen if I accidentally pulled it out during a data transfer?

>>62017643

Because there is no reason to use it unless you explicitly want to use LXDE.

>>62017460

Why would use you use ext2 when there's ext4?

>>62017761
I want to share the HDD between GNU+Linux and OpenBSD.

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>>62016765
It's not like 4chan has ever memed me into something bad. Downloading it right now.

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https://git.io/color.sh

>>62017743
Isn't it better with old hardware? It's a 7 year old laptop I'm planning to use it on.

>>62017875

A first generation Core i3 and 4GB of DDR3 RAM are not considered "old". It will run the same, because you'll still be using Firefox and similar programs.

>>62016674
Mageia is pretty good and just works
Or just go for Arch or Void if you don't mind spending time configuring shit

>>62016674
Arch.

>>62017393
pacaur -Syu --devel --needed

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>>62018412
>>>/s4s/

good thread

>>62013177
Can I get the amp you have?

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when I install Manjaro and change my screenfetch logo to Arch, will anyone find out?

>>62018601
God will.

>>62018601
You will know.

And that shame will haunt you.

>>62007647
What's the best way to create a variable that persists between runs of a bash script?

Obviously I could just read / write the value to a file but that seems wasteful for something that only needs to be in memory.

>>62018697
You mean like.. which one of export, declare, env, or set?
Like in a shell dotfile?

What is a good Distro for recording music I have thinkpad with a Duo headphone jack Is there a distro that automatically support this kind of Jack with nice gui

i just need it for like audacity and RuneScape

>>62017799
>>62017829
>>62017834
>>62017968
>>62017983
>>62018005
>>62018245
>>62018274
>>62018294
>>62018357
>>62018373
>>62018412
>all these deleted posts
are we not even allowed mention desktop threads on /g/ now
wtf mods

>>62018697
put it in /tmp/, preferable via mktemp
before you hurt yourself using "export"; it just works for child processes of your script

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>>62019162
read the rules, newfag

>>62018561
It's a magni 2

>>62019223
What's dangerous about export?

And isn't tmp all on the disk?

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>>62019247
>No racism outside of /b/

>>62019247
No gets? Lol, now post the real rules.

Suggest me an interesting WM to try except i3, awesome, ratpoison, openbox, bspwm and dwm, already tried these.

Can someone tell me what to do to install a barebones Wayland+ Sway on Debian netinstall?
Just the packages would be enough, and also what file I add the Wayland session startup to in order to kick it off at boot up?

>>62019453
What even is the point of these rules?
You would have to ban about half of all boards and 100% of /pol/ if these rules were enforced.

>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
Makes literally every post ban worthy.

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>>62019647
off topic

>>62019667
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community.

Get ready for your ban.

Are ACPI errors during boot normal? I googled and plenty of people get a variety of errors before login manager.

>>62007647
Im /b/olshevick from Ukrain, i want to instal GayNU/Linux on dualboot, what distro should i choose?

Hello /fglt/. I'm thinking of getting rid of dual boot (I haven't booted into the Windows partition in six months), but I'm still doubting the decision. If, under some occasion, I was to need Microsoft Office, Visual Studio or Photoshop, do they run fine on a Virtual Machine? Is there anything I can not do on a virtual machine (idgaf about games)? Does anyone have experience of the Sims 3 or 4 under Wine (mine is the only computer in the house that runs these and gf is addicted)?

I'm just shitposting here, but 4chan's policies and moderation really suck.

My search engine skills suck. Where can I find the vanilla bashrc for Ubuntu?

>>62019970
From your backups, of course.

>>62019970
/etc/skel/.bashrc

How can I install the original vi? vi seems to be just a link to vim.

>>62020211
install nvi
> Nvi is intended as a "bug-for-bug compatible" > clone of the original
> BSD vi editor. As such, it doesn't have a lot > of snazzy features as do
> some of the other vi clones such as elvis and > vim. However, if all
> you want is vi, this is the one to get.

>>62019947
For that shit just make a Windows VM. In seamless mode, it's comfy enough. For gaming you may need to pass your graphic card though to the VM, which isn't easy, but you will find tutorials on the web. Most stuff like Photocuck even runs in WINE nowadays, but I wouldn't recommend it.

>>62019591
KWin

I have linux ubuntu and ryzen 1700x, mobo is B350 tomahawk

I need cpu temps, I installed psensor lm sensors and input all yes... still not working any ideas? Or idea how to install amd drivers??

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Installed current Debian with gnome yesterday. Fucked up and didnt choose the sudo option from the advanced options in installer.

I gave myself added myself to sudoers then locked the root account. Now I cant change the gsettings for things like nautilus. The command goes through but the changes dont stick.

Unlocked root did it with that and it looked like it worked but when I exited root it didnt stick.

I dont even know what to do and I dont want to reinstall. I got a bracket coming Tuesday and I could reinstall then when I mess with that.

Im just trying to get nautilus to make thumbnails for files on external networked devices. Specifically my nas.

>>62020616

On the plus side the stable debian stretch has enough kernal updates to make gpu/usb hub pass through pretty smooth.

Winfag here. Just tried installing Ubuntu on virtual machine and partitioning was complicated and unintuitive. Can someone suggest me a guide that explains partitioning for complete retards?

I'm trying to install Wine on Ubuntu 16.04 - when i install through apt `sudo apt install wine`, it installed version 1.6 - 2.x was released yesterday - is there a way to get a more up to date version? (Relatively new to this)

Can someone explain the various pipings?

I'm trying to run a command to generate a word list using crunch. I am trying to reduce the number of items by piping the output of crunch into grep with, what I think is, the correct regular expression for what I want. And if it gets through that, pipe that to an output file.

The command I'm using is:

crunch 10 10 abcdef0123456789 -d 2 | egrep '(?=.*\d).{5}(?=.*[a-z]).{5}' > pass.txt

But I'm getting nothing out. I'm guessing it's to do with my piping as if I replace crunch with an echo:

echo 12345abcde | egrep '(?=.*\d).{5}(?=.*[a-z]).{5}' > test.txt

I get nothing out too.

Any assistance?

>>62020970
It's not as complex as it seems, especially if you're using Ubuntu's installer. All you really need to know is any OS (including Windows) needs to have a partition on the disk to store its files.
If you have no special needs then all you have to ask yourself is how much disk space do you want Ubuntu to use, and then allot that space as a partition. That's it.

That's the essentials. You really can't go wrong.
But beyond that, you might want to consider a few additional things but they aren't necessary. For instance you may want a "Swap" partition which is used like "pagefiles" on Windows in case you run out of RAM (However you don't need one, and if you do find that you need additional memory you can always create a "swapfile" instead without having to make a whole separate partition)
Another reason you might want separate directories is if you want to preserve some data and wipe others (e.g. a lot of people put /home on a separate partition so if they reinstall their OS all the data in /home will remain intact)

TL;DR it's mostly just a lot of personal preference that you don't actually have to waste time on at this stage if you're ok with just having 1 big partition for the whole Ubuntu install

>>62021367
read this for up-to-date wine on ubuntu https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

>>62021453
thank you!

>>62021392
that regex looks wrong. What exactly are you trying to match?

>>62021392
That's perl regex, which needs the -P flag.

>>62021572
>>62021504
I'm generating a 10 character string, which must contain 5 letters and 5 numbers. I only want to output those that do meet this.

>>62021452
Do i want to put swap partition at the very beginning? What partitions have to be "primary"? Thank you anon.

>>62021624
Doesn't Ubuntu just have a big button you can click to have it automatically choose everything?
I didn't think Ubuntu users had to know anything about partitions or even choose if they wanted a swap or know anything about "primary" partitions.

But yes the swap partition should be primary. Doesn't matter if it's at the front or not, although there is some debate I guess about whether or not it makes it faster.
If you really want to know more though I always thought this was a pretty good resource: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks

>>62021624
Put it last so you can delete it to regain space if you need it.

>>62021392
i was wrong your regex is fine you just have to replace egrep with

grep -P

>>62021744
>Doesn't Ubuntu just have a big button you can click to have it automatically choose everything?
I currently have 1 partition for my Win7 and one partition for media storage. I want to follow that scheme but with Linux.
>I always thought this was a pretty good resource
Thanks, ill read it!
>>62021751
>Put it last so you can delete it to regain space if you need it.
What if i know that i will never need that space?

What is the very best distro of all time?

>>62021624
use a swapfile isntad of a swappartition. This way you wont have to think about where to put that partition

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>>62021922
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>62021922
Debian GNU/Linux

>>62021938
>use a swapfile isntad of a swappartition
Thats a good idea but isnt it Ubuntu 17.10+ only?

Can I use xbindkeys to do an action on keydown, rather than keyrelease?

My current bind is something like

key1 + key2 -> action,
but I find it more comfy to hold down key1 as I press key2. If I release them at the same time it works, but can I instead do

key1_down + key2 -> action?

I couldn't find anything with a quick search and xbindkeys -k doesn't appear to capture key down and key up differently, whereas xev does

I might just use a single key I barely use because it's kinda annoying it only working when I press it exactly right

>>62021956
>>62021985
someone needs to make a crying feels guy BSD daemon

Is it true that Xubuntu is favorite flavor of Ubuntu on /g/? It says so in the wiki.

>>62022003
That has been possible on most Linux distros since like... 2000? Dunno anymore - but either way, ages ago.

It's not actually a better idea, but it works too.

>>62021841
Doesn't work. It just echoes everything that contains a number, not 5.

>>62021922
Alpine.Not being cucked by gnu is a breath of relief

>>62021914
>I currently have 1 partition for my Win7 and one partition for media storage. I want to follow that scheme but with Linux.
Sounds like you want 2 partitions. The main root partition "/", and one for "/home".
You would make both primary and you don't need a swap.

In fact it might be better to not use a swap in your case since most machines can only handle 4 partitions and you'd have 2 for win 2 for lin. Adding a swap would be a 5th, which usually means you would end up needing to make one of your 4 partitions into an extended partition that contains 2 partitions.

>>62022285
This. Just wish they used runit, not openrshit

>>62022332
There is nothing wrong with openrc

>>62022295
Also, for the root partition you should only need about 40-50GB. You could go a little higher to be safe, but I've had many yr old installs that only get up to 30-40 because most data gets put on /home, including games.

Another option you might consider though since I don't know what your idea of "media storage" is, is maybe you just want to put everything on a single partition and use the second one as extra storage.
You can just mount the 2nd partition at /mnt or /media or something.

>>62022084
Probably. Still, minimal Ubuntu install + i3wm is unmatched.

>>62022379
This. Just did Debian + i3 for the first time.
Had my first computing related epiphany in decades. Literal bliss.

Do you know how I can disable systemd services that get started by Debian/Ubuntu by default? Fuck it I'll Google it

>>62022378
>>62022295
Thank you.

>>62018601
For what purpose?

>>62022678
for epeen in desktop threads

>>62022773
Literal autism

>>62022458

systemctl disable service.name

>>62022773
I don't get it. Why would it matter that you use plain Arch vs Manjaro?

>>62022815
Because Manjaro is "Arch for noobs."

Guys, I am bored and have lots of free time at hand, what Linux distro should I try out?

>>62022815
manjaro has an installer so archfags will make fun of you because of it

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How the fuck do I increase scroll wheel speed? On my mouse, when I scroll anything, it's so damn slow. It's as if it takes me 20 full wheel scrolls to reach the bottom of an average article on the web or inside of a file browser.

How do I fix this? I use Cinnamon fwiw.

>>62022898
>manjaro
no, they'll make fun of you because manjaro's abandonware and shit breaks on it since it uses Arch as a base and Arch devs don't give a fuck about breaking Manjaro.

>>62022912
>abandonware
bullshit anon, if you're gonna blow smoke up my ass at least make it a believable sort of smoke

>>62022888
Gentoo, SourceMage, NixOS, or GuixSD

>>62022921
They LITERALLY wait 2 weeks before they push a package bump that arch does.
This includes security patches
They dont do any quality control their selves, they just wait for arch to push it then wait 2 weeks

>>62022969
that doesn't make it abandonware dumbass. abandonware is literally abandoned software, not poorly maintained software

>>62022969
HE WHO CONTROLS THE REPO CONTROLS THE DISTROS

i've been learning linux with ubuntu, ubuntu comes with gedit (at least the 16.04)
why does everybody use vim? why is it better?

>>62023298
basically it's
>muh keybinds

When i type

sudo apt-get update

what actually gets updated? To update all of the installed programs do i need some different command?

>>62023298
Vim has a lot of functions gedit doesn't, and even more if you include all the plugins.

Endless reasons, really. But vim users usually like the "command syntax", which isn't just shortcuts but things you can sequentially combine.
delete - until end of line. visually - mark text until end of line - copy. The "until end of line" part is the same key in both cases, as would be delete, visually, and copy. It makes the editor quite capable.

>>62023359
that just gets a list of updated packages, to actually update everything it's sudo apt-get install update

>>62023359
update updates the list of available packages. You have to run

sudo apt upgrade

after

 sudo apt update

to actually upgrade your installed packages.
a popular alias to bring the system up to date on debian based distributiuons is:

alias update='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'

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>>62023409
>having to use an alias to upgrade your system in a one liner
Nice.

>>62023380
>>62023409
Oh, so basically it just updates package manager subscription lists, right? Like lists in ublock origin.
>apt-get install update
>

sudo apt upgrade

They serve the same purpose, right? Thank you guys! Its so fun to learn Linux.

>>62007647
I'm running the latest, stable debian. I've installed flash player but I cant seem to update it. Can someone help me?

>>62007740

Based Linus calling out the GNUbeast.

>>62023439
its even worse on gentoo

sudo emerge --sync && sudo emerge -atvuDN --with-bdeps=y @world

>>62023449
nooo, upgrade will basically install the latest release version of your distro if you're not already on the latest version, it will often break stuff

>>62022904

Gee Bill! How come your mom lets you have TWO scroll wheels?

>>62023524
no it does not!
from man apt-get:
>upgrade
> upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
> currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
> /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
> versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
> circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages
> not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of
> currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
> changing the install status of another package will be left at
> their current version. An update must be performed first so that
> apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.

unless your sources.list is set up in a way that it will always track the current stable/testing/unstable branch you will not jump between major releases. Also iirc ubuntu needs a whole different command to upgrade between major versions

>>62023502

emerge --sync && emerge -uND world

cave sync && cave resolve -x world

Both of these are already extensive. And the sync part is only if you don't schedule it to happen automatically anyhow.

Not really a big problem.

So simple

pacman -Syu

So elegant

>>62023577
>>62023524
Very interesting!

>>62023649
its actually really nice that you dont need a sepparate sync command for pacman but the -Syu is just as bad as gentoos -uND

>>62023662
>-S
sync repos
>y
refresh package list
>u
update

Whats so "bad" about basic functionality?

>>62023700
the "bad" part is that if you look at the command and dont know anything about pacman you have no idea whats going on if you read apt upgrade its pretty clear whats going to happen. Its easier for people to remember update and upgrade than Syu or uDN

>>62023738
Its hard to remember 3 letters then what order to use two 6 letter words?
Nah
After 1 day you've already remembered the basic update process and you're good to go. No need to remeber if its update or upgrade or dis-upgrde

>>62023662
I feel -y is really quite redundant, whereas with Gentoo you have a real option to not use ANY of -uND, or add it to the default options.

I've done just emerge world before, or emerge -u @world. Also emerge -N @world. And so on.

>>62023757
Honestly this, I always got confused regarding update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade over years of using Ubuntu. On Arch it's so much simpler to just remember -Syu.

How do I escape a single quote character in my tmux config so it displays properly

>>62024588
escaping something is 99.9% of the time just putting a backslash in front of it

>>62024599
backslash didn't work

>>62024608
can you paste the entire line here

http://www.strawpoll.me/13760415

>>62023738
damm devs assuming users have brains and can read the manual before using software...

>>62024638

set -g status-right '#[fg=green,bg=black] (⊙＿⊙')'

>>62024702
Try 3 backslashes. If not then try using double quotes to surround it and a single backslash to escape

>>62024761
Still doesn't work

>>62017734
You would be more likely to see filesystem corruption because ext2 makes no metadata guarantees unless it's mounted synchronously. Very similar to fat32 in that respect.

>>62024798
Just tested it and this works:

set -g status-right "#[fg=green,bg=black] (⊙＿⊙')"

Just double quotes. Oddly enough you can escape a double quote inside a double quoted string in tmux but I guess it just doesn't like single quotes being used for strings very much.

>>62024839
wow I feel stupid for not trying that, thanks

knowing very well atom is bloatware and not liking sublime i need recomendations for a cool fast text editor for java

currently using ubuntu btw

>>62025307
>cool fast text editor
emacs or vim
>for java
well you can't have that

>>62007647
quick question.. what's the least horrendous looking de?

>>62025504
lol why? at least something that works for java without being bloatware

>>62025519
i3

>>62025543
i'm just kidding
vim and emacs are very lightweight and customizable, but you need to learn how to work with them, and configurate them to have a good Java IDE

since Java is verbose as fuck, you will want things like autocomplete and project management, which takes some time to have those things in vim/emacs and actually be efficient with it

if you want something fast, try intellij idea/eclipse/netbeans. I only have experience with Idea, but all of them work well with Java, but are way more heavyweight

Is it too much to ask for a reasonably simple/professional looking icon theme that uses more than 2 colors?

how well does Fedora scale to 4k on 25 and 26?

>>62025803
numix circle?

>>62026802
Actually I think what I'm looking for is "office themed" icons sort of like old win icons.
But I was just bored when I made that other post, I don't actually expect anyone to help. I'll find something.

>>62012100
>implying ubuntu is good

>>62017460
well, ext2 has no journal, so you risk corrupting data being written during an unclean shutdown (such as powerloss)
it won't blow up for no reason, though. it's old, but it's a solid filesystem, at least under linux, no clue how good the ext2 driver is in openbsd

>>62025543
>>62025671
I use vim as my Java text editor. If you're new, an IDE is probably the way to go for java. If you're a masochist like me, using a simple text editor like vim is great. You will end up learning a lot more about the Java ecosystem than you ever wanted to if you go down that path, and it will cost you many hours of frustration. It was worth it for me, but not for most devs. If you're dedicated to lightweight and customizable tooling, you need to be prepared to put in a lot of extra work up front.

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Okay, any fans of virtualbox/oracle know why gentoo with GRUB BIOS doesn't find my install after rebooting?

FATAL: INT18: BOOT FAILURE

is what is printed.

>>62022285
>he doesn't know what "cucked" means

>>62017768
negro

http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?p=57124#post57124

>>62027192
not sure what you're getting at here, he already knows he can use ext2 for this

>>62022285
Always the same dumb phoneposter. Dude why are you such an annoying existence. Do you even use linux except of your Android phone you aren't even able to type on? What's the point of being alive when all you do is shitting on people who have freedom at some chinese imageboard? Please rethink you life goals.

>>62027063
lol, due to my java course rules i cannot use a proper IDE for java i should use a text editor and do compilation and running through terminal

i was using atom but it's usability and ricing capabilities go to trash thanks to it being bloatware, that's why i was asking for something else, actually emacs seems nice for the job, vim.... dunno i feel it's progenitor vi was called the editor of the beast for a reason

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>>62016364
>a system monitor
>written in fucking nodejs

Just did a fresh install of arch and added plasma 5 and kde but when I try to log into the user I created I can't enter. I can type in the log in but when I press enter nothing happens. I've deleted the user and changed the password multiple times but no luck. What do I do?

>>62022084

>i only use things approved by other anonymous idiots

>>62026507

Scaling isn't distribution specific. It depends on the GUI toolkit and display server.

Is GNUnet any good? I gave Retroshare a shot but no one uses it

>>62025803

Faenza
Cheser
Adwaita
Elementary Xfce

All of those look neutral and cover a lot of things. Adwaita and Cheser look the most old-school.

This thread f*cking sucks!

>>62024673
>stawpoll

keep what javascript ridden /v/ crap out of fglt.

>>62011682
-there is no VAC for gnu+linux
-there is no noVidya telemetry either

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html
>However, if you're going to use these games, you're better off using them on GNU/Linux rather than on Microsoft Windows. At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do.

>>62027333
>lol, due to my java course rules i cannot use a proper IDE for java i should use a text editor and do compilation and running through terminal
Hahha. I bet your professor wanted to teach Haskel^WPython but he got told nono java is the standard beginner language, you have to use it! So he decided to be a real dick about it.

>>62026951
Like the most people use it.
Are you just trying to be some contrarian hipster?

>>62024700
I think you are being sarcastic but you just come of as unrealistic and defensive. A general purpose OS shouldn't be designed so that you have to do a course of study before using it, which is what you are implying.

Would a slow cpu possibly cause sound crackling? It happens on occasion but my cpu usage isn't anywhere near 100%.

Perhaps maybe a de-sync would cause it?

>>62028276
Forgot to mention this only happens with video playback; not listening to music.

>>62028276
try increasing your sound cache/buffer.

>>62028276
it's possible, if the cpu is unable to keep the soundcard's buffer filled
though it's not likely that the problem is that your cpu is simply too slow, unless it's extremely old

Why does grep not recognize

\d*,\d*\sMB/s

?
Instead I have to do

"[[:digit:]]*,[[:digit:]][[:space:]]MB/s"

I tried this with the -E option.

>>62028433

% grep -P "\d*,\d*\sMB/s" <<< "12,32 MB/s"
12,32 MB/s

>>62028481

Oh, so the backslash notation is Perl regex. Thanks.

>>62028023
like x11?

>>62028025
good but has barely Nything on it.

>>62028276
yes if its under load. depends on a few factors though.

>>62028558

Yes, it also depends on X. I don't know much, but I know that X can't do per-display scaling (DPI) for example while Wayland does.

>>62019636
Bump

Just tested my hard drive's write speed. It's a 7200RPM SATA2 8MB cache hard drive and I'm not satisfied.

1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 12,505 s, 85,9 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 26,8384 s, 40,0 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 25,4691 s, 42,2 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 26,8679 s, 40,0 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 26,9852 s, 39,8 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 22,9319 s, 46,8 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 24,3001 s, 44,2 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 25,7523 s, 41,7 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 26,7088 s, 40,2 MB/s
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 25,8235 s, 41,6 MB/s

Can someone test theirs with similar specs and post results? I used this:

for i in {1..10}; do dd if=/dev/zero of=test${i} bs=1M count=1024 |& grep -P "\d*,\d*\sMB/s"; done

40 mb/s sounds like shit for me to be honest. I did the same on my "slower" laptop hard drive with only 5400RPM and I get the same results.

>>62019636
>>62028609

There's a guide on how to install it on Debian on the Sway Wiki.

>>62028633
What are you trying to test with that command over just

dd if=/dev/urandom bs=4096 | pv > deleteme.raw

?

>>62027985
I was just curious. But i actually listen to /g/ very often.

>>62028741

I didn't know dd writes to stdout if no "of" is specified. Also, why should I use pv instead of status=progress? I checked and I'd have to install pv first.

Can someone clear up on what "nomodeset" in kernel parameters actually does? Without it I cannot boot into Debian - it gets stuck right before CLI and I have to reboot. I read something about video card drivers but I still don't understand. Do I lose actual performance using that setting?

What is a good Distro for recording music I have thinkpad with a Duo headphone jack Is there a distro that automatically support this kind of Jack with nice gui

i just need it for like audacity and RuneScape

>>62028906
it prevents "kernel modesetting", basically your kernel setting up your video card and getting you in a high res graphical console
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager#Kernel_Mode_Setting

kms only works if you let the kernel-based libre driver to manage your VGA card (x.org will use this later). However if the kernel driver cannot handle your card (new card, old kernel or too new card with no support even in the latest kernel) you will experience problems like what you described.

Without kms you get no video acceleration, unless you use the proprietary video drivers.

>>62028944

There is no specific distribution for every use case. You can install Audacity on every distribution (the majority packages it).
As for your duo headphone jack (TRRS), that's a hardware "issue" and every distribution will handle it the same.

>>62028944
I'd assume the port itself is modeled as microphone input and headphone output on the alsa driver's side?

If so, basically any distro should work, and the larger DE like KDE/GNOME would have some form of UI controls for the sound card - presumably by proxy of something controlling pulseaudio. If such a DE is not what you are using, pavucontrol is probably something you might want to try.

>>62028956
Alright, thanks for that. I installed Nvidia proprietary and now everything works. That makes me think - are proprietary drivers always better than their free counterpart?

>>62029116
>That makes me think - are proprietary drivers always better than their free counterpart?

kindly fuck off

How is 3G/4G support on Linux laptops? Usable without proprietary blobs?

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>>62029152

Pic related.

>>62029152
It depends on whether your specific hardware is supported, but generally speaking it can work.

If it's not supported you could use a supported stick or your mobile phone or a dedicated device as WLAN AP to forward the mobile internet.

>>62029152
Plenty of USB HDSPA modems work A-OK without firmware or proprietary crapware.

What's the go-to Gnome 3 with Debian now? I'd like to be able to use the absolute mountain of .deb packages and the familiarity with apt-get.

Can't be Ubuntu, shit's backdoored by Amazon. What's the issues with Linux Mint? Would try a KDE based distro but that's kinda bloated and dead in the water. Gnome apparently has very exciting things lined up and uses wayland already.

>>62029343
>Can't be Ubuntu, shit's backdoored by Amazon

Guess what? its Ubuntu Gnome.

>>62029343

What a retarded compilation of memes, ignorance and smugness.

>What's the go-to Gnome 3 with Debian now?
Debian with GNOME installed.

>Can't be Ubuntu, shit's backdoored by Amazon.
Update your adopted meme opinions, idiot. You don't know what a backdoor is. You don't know what the Amazon integration contained and which part of "Ubuntu" it affected (hint: it only "affected" Unity).

I'm not even going to specifically address the other retardation in your post. It's just a bunch of memes and myths you picked up on here and now you're parrotting them to show off "knowledge" and to appear smart because you're "in the circle".
Fucking idiot.

>>62029116
>are proprietary drivers always better than their free counterpart?
well they are when the HW manufacturers are massive cunts who go out of their way to sabotage competition and therefore openness.

>>62029420
Oh you fucking idiot. Just because Unity is _meant_ to be gone doesn't mean they have to take amazon with it.

If it brings in the bigbux they'll keep tracking people using their "humanity friendly" distro. Ubuntu is a fucking meme and I'll never trust it again after they got in bed with them.

Anyone using phallus fonts? I cloned the repo and install them using the file provided but I can't see them listed when I try to choose a font for openbox with obconf

>>62029447
He's right and you're the idiot in this situation you know?

>>62029457
How the fuck is he right? the whole freakin' point of a home desktop linux distro is that it's free of centralised marketing corporations like amazon, google, microsoft etc. Canonical immediately became unsafe to use as soon as they even talked to amazon to have their shit in Unity.

I have seen nothing to prove that Ubuntu is safe to use again.

>>62029563

Go read the code.

>>62029563

There is no "point" for "home desktop Linux distributions".

The Linux kernel is licensed under the GPL and is free software. So is the majority of software included with distributions (free software).
Free software has nothing to do with your "marketing corporations". If someone wants to tie in "marketing corporations" into free software, he's free to do so.

You are an utter retard who is parroting memes and myths without any knowledge. Stop posting because you are embarrassing yourself, wasting precious 4chan kilobytes and making everyone who is reading your inane drivel stupid.
I would suggest killing yourself, but apparently this is a friendly thread.

>>62029451
Looking at the repository for that, INSTALL seems to want to install in ~/.fonts, not /usr/share/fonts or ~/.local/share/fonts ... maybe that is part of the problem?

Not using openbox though.

>>62029563
Jesus, even Terry's autism levels pale in comparison to yours.

>>62029631

There's a difference between autism and being a retard. He's the latter one. What amuses me is his smugness for being a retard. Rarely have I seen someone more pride about being an idiot.

>>62029033
cool thanks for the explanation

So Linux is Windows then, got it. No point in installing it lmao. Enjoy the tracking, you've earned it.

>>62029667
what are you referring to?

>>62029667

Linux is a kernel and Windows is an operating system. "Tracking", whatever you mean with that, isn't related to the Linux kernel at all, so I don't understand your point.

I am interested now. How does it feel to be stupid and to be exposed for your stupidity by others? More specifically, what's the thought process behind smugly displaying your idiocy and lack of knowledge to people who have the (very basic) knowledge?

>>62029628
>>62029451


Actually just figured it out soon after posting turns out to enable bitmap fonts on Debian you have to remove the file '70-no-bitmaps.conf' from /etc/fonts/conf.d

>>62029727
Ah, it's going through fontconfig and you disabled bitmap fonts. Makes sense.

>>62022904
>Ay Tech
ayy

>>62007647
I have a 2003 Thinkpad R51 with a Pentium M 1.5Ghz processor
What OS should I put on it to make the laptop usable?

>>62031886
Maybe Xubuntu?

https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/

>>62031886
any recent distro with lxde/xfce/mate/simple wm only setup.

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>>62031952
Ill give it a go thank!

>>62031990
let us know if you have any issues

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