Why aren't modular upgradeable laptops standard yet? It's

There's no money in it for any of the companies with the manufacturing and R&D to pull it off.

>>61978875
>>Allowing consumers to upgrade their products instead of buying all new machines
>>Not soldering in your ram
>>Not changing laptop every 6 months
>>Being poor
Now seriously, why would OEMs make upgradable laptops if they make more money but soldering in everything and selling you a new machine every year?
Look at Apple, back in the day it used to be cheaper to manufacture their laptops with interchangeable SSDs so that in case there was a need for a specific storage capacity they could just produce more of those SSDs and put them in already made MacBooks.
But they have created a new totally proprietary connector for their otherwise M.2 NVME SSDs just so that their consumers could not upgrade themselves.
Since they are one of the most successful at selling their crap products, other OEMs followed, now we have soldered in RAM, soldered in SSDs and all of this is enclosed in a glued together piece of junk that can't be opened without totally breaking it, aka the surface laptop.

>>61978890
>>61979084
>m-muh profits
Fucking shills.

>>61978875
>yet
They used to be standard for industry.

>>61979181
They're right tho, sad but true.
It's all about numbers of actual units rather than parts or amount of part numbers sold.

Apple would have gone broke if they didn't make everything non-user serviceable especially the semi and portable stuff.

Even the big boy in Korea have to shut down their laptop or upgradable platforms in some country. Ps. Used to work in the design/test industry.

>>61978875
Big deal for us, no profit for them.

Just diy with a sbc, battery back, hdmi display, USB keyboard with touchpad, and some plywood and hinges.

>>61978875
>CPU
Exists
>>61978875
>GPU
Exists (MXM)
>>61978875
>RAM
Exists

There were issues with the implementations of MXM, and then there's software lockout in general, like with CPUs. Face it though, being disposable shit is more profitable and the industry being in decline just pushes us further down this dark path.

>>61978875
>Sky X9
I wish I had $10k to waste on a laptop.

>>61979300
>Exists
*existed

They did exist.
They were called ThinkPads
Then they got sodomised

>>61981784
Lies. HP EliteBooks were more upgradable. A 2012 HP 8760w can have every single of its components upgraded.

>>61981882
This. To the best of my knowledge no ThinkPad had a removable dedicated graphics card. The 87x0w Elitebooks all have MXM slots.

I don't agree with you at all. I'd rather have a lightweight easy to use laptop that I buy every 5 -years or so. I have no desire to fiddle with components or spend time configuring my laptop.

>>61982046
(You)

>>61979181
>m-muh profits
>Fucking shills.
This is stupid, of course companies primarily care about profit, in fact it's fair to say a lot larger corporations ONLY care about profit and nothing else. How are the other anon's shills for pointing it out. Dumbass

>>61978875
What's the point if Intel changes their sockets all the time?

The only thing proper laptops don't have upgradable easily is the GPU.

>>61979084
This. I only buy products with soldered parts to show all that poorfags that I don't give a shit if the device breaks

Why arent non modular desktops standard yet?
I mean its 2017. First imac is almost 20 years old.

>>61978875
muh thinness

CPU replacement involves cooler replacement and a significantly thicker bracket to make it replaceable
RAM being soldered, well it hasn't always been that way, at least it's cheap to get copies ram nowadays
GPUs are almost always replacable assuming the new one fits
Basically most consumers don't care about upgradability and would sacrifice it to have a slimmer, better-cooled, and more durable package
Do you buy a Ferrari to replace to rollcage and chop the chassis?

>>61979303
$15k actually, if you want the best options

>>61982011
But isn't that why they did not have optimus?

just buy a new one rofl

Actually we are regressing, laptops used to have upgradeable GPU back in the day, this was more than ten years ago.

>>61986932
i know right? i mean when the radiator in your car breaks down you just have to buy a new car instead of replacing the radiator. if you can afford one car you surely can afford to buy it again. all of these faggets ITT needs to stop being poor.

>>61979181

t. bernie bro who knows 0 about business

>>61978875
As others have stated this used to be the way things were. You need to go back 10 years..

>>61979181
how is it shill to point out how economics work
if it's not profitable they probably won't bother

>>61978875
CPU upgrades require full chipset upgrades more often than not
laptop models are annual and trying to keep backwards compatibility would be a nightmare
laptop externals aren't exactly made of anything special or sturdy

as well as like a billion other problems

>>61978875
Awful thermals

>>61981882
Not really
MXM for example on 8760w has a hardware blacklist so you can't just swap in some modern GPU

>>61987055
it's not really the same
most laptops have small components like that that are replaceable if something breaks

Your car comparison breaks down when you decide your car is too slow and want a faster engine (cpu)
This requires replacing a lot of other shit to support it (mobo) that isn't really doable because usually the entire car (laptop) is designed around the original engine, making it usually a better choice to just buy a new car in that case

>>61978875
Basically because making shit modular requires a lot of space, which is counterproductive to laptops
Note how only 17 inch behemoths laptops have MXM slots, because it's far more efficient from a design standpoint to just build the GPU right into the motherboard, in terms of saving space and for designing a chassis and heatsink to support it

As for CPUs not being replaceable anymore, blame Intel, every mobile cpu since Broadwell is soldered only

>>61987055
and eyyyyy, you can change laptop fans pretty easily
you need specialist tools and skills to pull your engine or transmission, just like you need a reflow kit and specialist skills to reflow your cpu or gpu. and if you want to replace them with something different, you're well into the territory of one-off handmade adapters. you COULD do this with laptops, there's nothing preventing it, it's just not done because the shell/keyboard/screen are together worth less than the time it would take to cram a different board in.

>>61978875
>2017
>caring about modular upgrades when botnet/bigdata is the successful market
>non-removable batt
>non-flashabele/unlockable BIOS
>non-removable OS
>embedded RAM or drives (macshits)
>you can jsut buy a new one goyim! - t. :^)
>you better get this skype approved portable device with fakesuspend and 24/7 voice recorder, GPS, tracking OS, and processor with 3G connection otherwise we won't make shekelz from u and build your underground market profile - t. :^)

Other reason:
>tech is getting cheaper and cheaper
>it is easier make them upgrade into a new hardware 'consumerist style' than make companies repair your broken shit (which costs more expenditure and bother for companies)
>it's hard to sell replacement and upgrades when you could buy them in the first place (if u bought high end shit. there's SSD everywhere though so why not upgrade into botnet storage? - :^D )
Generation of ego and consumerist epicureanists.
Notbad for the consumers because they are deceived. Not bad for the producers because they earn more.
You should be more worried about the quality of product and blatant backdoors ft. NSA-justification movies so that normie sensors take the blue pill of first information exposure.

>>61991718
>you can change laptop fans pretty easily
Not on other people's case.
Had a laptop where I had to unscrew every screw incl. the screen before I can get access into the fan

>>61982011
G41 had an upgradable and removable GPU
But that's nowhere near modern

>>61993911
"everything secured with standard screws" is easy in the greater scheme of repair, anon. fidgety glue and clips is even slightly better than average, surfacemount everything coated in epoxy globs like hotglue.mp4 and chip part numbers sanded off as an added insult is completely normal in the real world.

if it was ACTUALLY a conspiracy to keep you from servicing your own system, laptops would work like most old arcade boards and keep a bios decryption key in cmos/break the battery circuit on case open or key parts removal.

Because that is bad for business. Companies want you to buy new things every few years, not upgrading what you already have as that would make them less money.

>>61978875
>It's not hard to create an industry standard where you slot in and out the main parts like CPU, GPU, RAM.
Sure that could be done, but to keep everything standard and modular, laptops would have to be bulkier and heavier, which is counter to what most people really want out of laptops. And really, how often would the average person really want to replace one of said parts but keep the rest? I barely do that on my desktop, and even that's more hard drive upgrades than anything else. By the time I decide it's worthwhile changing CPU, for example, everything else is old enough to warrant an upgrade while I'm at it.

Besides, companies wouldn't make as much from selling laptop cases and replaceable bits as they do selling all-in-one laptops.

>It's not hard to create an industry standard where you slot in and out the main parts like CPU, GPU, RAM.

Yes it is you dumbfuck 14 year old. You have school tomorrow, go to bed.

>>61978875
laptoddlers will always be inferior to the desktop master race

>>61997085
I have both and I'm not an autistic tribe mentality cuckold who defines their personality by a god damn computer. Stay poor.

>>61978875
>yet

I have a 2013 ThinkPad and I can swap CPU/RAM/drives with zero effort, heatsink with moderate effort and I can swap the GPU by swapping out the entire motherboard for one with a GPU. It's not elegant, but it works.

>>61978875
>2020
/g still not using all components soldered, sealed case "maintenance free" laptops

>>61979181
there's literally no demand for a modular laptop
MXM is about as good as you'll get

>buy PC
>several years pass
>time to upgrade
>new cpus have different socket, need a new motherboard as well
>and new ram
>turns out you have to upgrade most of your PC
>might as well build a completely new one
Same for upgradable laptops, if they existed.

buy a clevo laptop