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Welcome to the new world order
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>>61975220
Make a fork of it if you don't like where the project is headed
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>>61975220
>>>/pol/
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denying platforms to rightists only makes them build their own platforms
please continue
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>>61975220
>tolerance rather than hate
Isn't that a good thing?
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>>61975323
>>61975330
>>61975607
current state of /g/ defending the suppression of free speech cuz "muh /pol/ boogeyman"
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>>61975624
>Starting a politically motivated thread that has nothing to do with technology and get surprised being told to keep this on /pol/
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>>61975672
>nothing to do with technology
>article about a popular web browser
huh?
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>>61975684
>Fake news
>Fact checking
>new world order
>B-b-but it has something to do with mozilla, so that means it's technology and not politics
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>>61975340
> They will finally move to their own safe spaces and stop shitting up 4chan and Reddit
I want this
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>>61975607
That's just newspeak for suppressing dissenting opinions.
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>>61975715
seriously, please
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>>61975705
So you dont want to talk about censorship on the internet because they're censoring opinions you dont like?
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>>61975748
If I wanted to talk about censorship, I would take my outrage to /pol/ because this is a political subject, not technology.
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>mozilla considers WSJ as reliable and believes that non-mainstream media hurts democracy
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/

Even the name is 1984 tier: "Information Trust"
Liberals are the real fascists and we need a light fascist regime to kill them
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>>61975779
>Censorship on the internet is not about technology
youre one dense retard
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>>61975220
>Mozilla and fact-checker engine join fight on fake news

This click bait title is misleading. It implies that Mozilla is teaming up with a fact-checker engine (btw it's called "Full Fact"), but at this time they have not. The Mozilla "Initiative" (at this point in time!) is Mozilla exploring what avenues they can possibly take.

Having said all that, props to you OP for not naming the boogeyman that /pol/ loves to throw around for every problem in the world.

Your post would have been 100% correct if you didn't include the click bait, misleading headline. I especially agree with about the part

>tolerance rather than hate
That's some 1984 shit
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>>61975796
>Censorship a company is doing isn't politics related
You're one dense retard, I bet you defend iphones, GPUs, and vidya being posted on /g/ as well
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>>61975220
>wtf they're blocking infowars?!
>don't they know fluoride is making people gay?
Kys poltard
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>>61975810
what is your job title
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>>61975705
>What are filter bubbles?
They are seriously talking about having one built into the browser.
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>>61975817
What does that have anything to do with what we're talking about?
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>>61975799
>It implies that Mozilla is teaming up with a fact-checker engine
That's false

Also
>Social media giant Facebook has teamed up with other tech corporations aiming to launch a $14 million fund to end news illiteracy and improve public understanding of journalism.
>The nonprofit called the News Integrity Initiative and sponsored by Facebook, Mozilla and other tech industry leaders and foundations, will be based at the City University of New York
https://www.rt.com/business/383274-facebook-millions-fight-fake-news/
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>>61975824
well this is an off topic thread so i have an off topic question for you

i'm requesting an answer to a simple question, it's impolite to avoid it
what's your job title?
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>>61975624
>>61975705
Who forces you to use firefox? And even if was "supressing" mah over-rated free-speech, it's their software and their decision. As a user you can criticise and boycott a service.
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>>61975834

*I meant it's true, they are really teaming up with a fact-checking engine sponsored by many megalomaniac capitalists, including Soros
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>>61975836
Unemployed
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>>61975854
ah
thank you
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>>61975845
I don't even use firefox, I use chromium
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>>61975858
Good for you, I am not surprised.
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>>61975866
And what is that supposed to mean?
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>>61975836
your mom impaler
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> Amerifats still think their free speech applies when dealing with corporations
You can't go inside a walmart and shout FUCKING NIGGERS and expect to not get kicked out.
Same way with 4chan, reddit, facebook or literally any company that hosts something you made.
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>>61975872
It means that I am not surprised that you use Google Chromium.
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>>61975878
This, I wonder how is that hard to grasp
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>>61975878
You are an idiot. They want to have a list of reliable news sources (such as WSJ) and they want to hide/censor or even put a flag in a website that is not Mozilla/Democrat approved
The blog post the girl wrote in mozilla's blog even mentioned that "Pizzagate controversy hurts democracy"
They are worse than Stalin
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>>61975902
This, they should include breitbart, the only real news source known to men
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>>61975846
>they are really teaming up with Soros
They are not teaming up with a "fact checker engine". Not at this time. They might in the future (the very near future), but right now they are not. I'd love to see you provide proof of your claims.
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>>61975918
kek
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Mozilla as a web browser company CAN'T MAKE A LIST OF FAKE/TRUE NEWS
They don't decide what is true or false. They want to use their power as a simple browse client provider to change what can and cannot be accessed.

Why are you europeans so retarded?
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>>61975918
The sad part is, I can't legitimately tell if it's a satire.
Such is the current state of /g/
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>>61975902
>They are worse than Stalin

>this private corporation is exercising its right to endorse media it arbitrarily approves of
>this is worse than the holodomor

/pol/ is worse than leftists
end your lives
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>>61975936
Mozilla is not a web browser, it's a company though.

>They don't decide what is true or false.
Currently google does it, without admitting to it
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>>61975942
The real sad part is that /g/ now defends censorship of the internet
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>>61975902
no one forces to use gulagfox m8
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>>61975961
>censorship of the internet
No, OP is talking about firefox, which is a property of a private company
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>>61975902
>and they want to hide/censor or even put a flag in a website that is not Mozilla/Democrat approved
i thought the whitepaper said the intent was to find additional news sites posting the same kinds of articles at around the same kind of time, as is normally what happens when news breaks
obscure websites posting news that nobody else is talking about is pretty suspect

it would be nice if they could filter out all the SEO garbage on a search engine result that takes you to a news post, but that's not what it will be doing
it unfortunately, will not be filtering at all
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>>61975961
Asking someone to keep politics on another board because there is enough turds in this toilet of a board isn't supporting censorship
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>>61975920
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/pierre-omidyar-and-george-soros-foundations-give-500000-to-uk-fact-checking-organisation/
https://phys.org/news/2017-08-mozilla-fact-checker-fake-news.html

>The "Mozilla Information Trust Initiative" comes as an automated real-time fact-checking engine developed by the Full Fact foundation was demonstrated in London.

>The group, which is backed by Omidyar and Hungarian-born investor and philanthropist George Soros, said its software is capable of spotting lies in real time, and was used to fact-check a live debate at the House of Commons.
Full Fact have been working with Britain's Office of National Statistics on the project, which they insisted was still very much at the test stage.

>"As the proponents of propaganda and misinformation become more sophisticated in their use of technology, it is important that fact checkers do not fall behind in our fight against it," Full Fact said.

>"This is an important investment in the future of fact-checking," Stephen King, of the Omidyar Network, told The Guardian newspaper.
"You only have to look at the number of initiatives that have risen up to address this challenge, either by tech companies or other organisations to see how worrying this phenomenon is to so many," Borchert added.
"Whether it's become a big enough priority is perhaps a better question," she said, arguing that it was time for rival news organisations to "rally around" to confront fake news.
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>>61975607
sure but what if the long-term goal isn't really tolerance but forced acceptance
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Don't you retards see, this is the beginning of a turning point. Put aside your differences, /pol/ and /g/. Censorship of, or on, the internet doesn't help any party.

>but it's just firefox!
Until it isn't. This is how it spreads. Other organizations and companies will follow suit eventually.
And, no, I'm not a raging 15 year old poltard. No, I'm not a stormfag. Just someone that realizes this isn't good for anyone.
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>>61976000
This isn't new, though. That's exactly how religion works, but I see what you are trying to say
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>>61976008
this, somehow redditors can not understand this
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>>61976008
What does EFF say about this? And what does stallman say?
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>>61975973
>I support free speech!
>...but not in the workplace
>...and not in any private company
>...and not in schools or universities
>...and not during public speeches
>...and not on the internet
>...and not in video games
>...and not in books, either
>...and not outside, in public

So where is free speech acceptable? At the bottom of the ocean?
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Mozilla Trust Initiative uses fact-checking engine developed by Full Fact foundation

Full Fact foundation is backed by Soros

#THIS WAS POSTED IN THEIR OWN WEBSITE#

Full Fact awarded $500,000 to build automated factchecking tools
>The game-changing investment comes from the Omidyar Network, the leading philanthropic investment firm established by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar and Open Society Foundations, the largest philanthropic funder of human rights in the world, founded by George Soros.

https://fullfact.org/blog/2017/jun/awarded-500000-omidyar-network-open-society-foundations-automated-factchecking/
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>>61976008
Agreed. Since mozilla can't be stopped along with any other browser that might follow, it's time smaller lesser known browers like qutebrowser or surf got promoted more.
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Who the fuck is soros and why is the the right's boogeyman?
Last week /pol/ and the_donald were scrambling to link the violent nazi protests to soros any way they could, regardless of how crazy it was
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>>61976040
>>I support free speech!
I don't, actually. I believe fascism cannot be avoided
>>...but not in the workplace
>>...and not in any private company
>>...and not in schools or universities
>>...and not during public speeches
>>...and not on the internet
>>...and not in video games
>>...and not in books, either
>>...and not outside, in public
yes
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>>61976040
Scary times brother
-HH
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>/pol/ on the internet, last month
>WE DON'T NEED GOVERNMENT REGULATION ON THE INTERNET, TO HELL WITH YOUR NET NEUTRALITY, THE FREE MARKET RULES ALL

>/pol/, after the free market decides to... whatever this manufactured controversy is
>HEY HEY HEY WHERE'S THE GOVERNMENT REGULATION, WHERE'S MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, AM I BEING DETAINED
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>>61976096
Top kek
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>>61976096
>/pol/ is one person
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>>61976096
/pol/ eternally rectally shattered
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>>61976096
>Implying a law declaring that companies should do X or Y are relevant anymore
European detected.
Net neutrality is a media distraction.
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>>61976034
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression

That's EFF. Have no idea about Stallman.
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>>61976096
tag the post that said the government should get involved
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>>61976123
If it's stallman, he's never once supported any kind of censorship and this is definitely going to be proprietary software, which stallman won't approve of. This isn't good man, this is getting bad.
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>>61976123
Stallman won't say anything like a jewish rat he is
Check his website for the past 14 months the only he is doing is lobbying for democrats using donations money.
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>>61976125
ctrl+f speech
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>>61976147
Stallman fought for software freedom more than you and your shitty cult ever did
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>>61976170
yeah and still he uses money received from donations to lobby for the most corrupt people in the world that even Soros find disgusting
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>>61976180
Trump campaign received money from zionists as well, it's nothing out of the ordinary
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>>61976187
we are talking about a fat guy who pretends to be the hero of freedom while doing the dirty work for rich and corrupt people
>b-but trump
pathetic
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First they came for the pedos but I did not speek out because I was not a pedo

Then they came for the drug dealers and I did not speek out because I was not a drug dealer

Then they came for "fake news" but I did not say anything because I did not read "fake news"

Then they came for 4chan shitposters and there was no one left to speak for us
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>>61976040
>>...and not in any private company
If this was actually mandated by law, you goons would be complaining about socialism and government meddling in the free market.

None of you actually know what the fuck you want.
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>>61976218
We're talking about an orange guy who pretends to be a hero of freedom while doing the dirty work for the rich and israel
>b-but stallman
pathetic
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>>61976218
>who pretends to be the hero of freedom
He already is, no need for mental gymnastics. Which one of your cult defended and fought against these companies? None? Thought so.
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>>61976123
>making sense
>get to the end
>says that neo-nazis controlling the government in the future seems possible
The fuck? Nobody takes them seriously. Does anyone actually believe that?
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>>61976263
Your hero don't write a single line of code since late 80s and only fights for freedom when it fits his agenda. On the plus side he uses money from donations to lobby for corrupt politicians.
The fact you worship people like this tell about your personality.
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>>61976285
>Your hero don't write a single line of code since late 80s
Because he fought for grater goods and no one was doing it.

He wrote GCC, the single most essential software that gave birth to freedom respecting way of life but you seem to forget about it.
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>>61976279
Other than the far right themselves, probably not. Maybe the far left do, or at least pretend to believe it, to further their own agenda, but that's it.
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>>61976285
Weev fully supports stallman
http://weev.livejournal.com/409835.html
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>>61975220
>Get more women on tech
>But women don't like programming and get out
>Well make women figth social causes
>But as company will lose millons
>Women with women studies had huge mount to feed
...
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>>61976263
>Which one of your cult defended and fought against these companies? None?
Bull fucking shit, his cabinet and advisors are the very same "swamp" he was so keen on draining. He's no different from what Hillary likely would have been in practice.
It's like listening to a liberal preach about how godly Obama was. No one cares what the man in office is actually doing, he's just a scapegoat for bizarre ideological fantasies. I'm actually impressed that he got a bunch of white nationalists to vote for a staunch Jew-loving Zionist, that takes media talent.
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>Heh he supports free speech on the internet, he must be a stupid drumpfkin from /pol/
I hate neo/g/ with a burning passion, why am I still here?
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>>61976348
>You literally cannot support trump, free speech, and just want politics on /pol/
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>>61976348
The world exists outside of vapid American first party politics. This is a technology board, not a politics board. Spamming these threads every day isn't going to change anyone's mind.
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>>61976355
Sure buddy
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>>61976375
>virtue signaling
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>>61976375
>Strawman and ad hominem
>Everyone who disagrees with me is an SJW
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>>61975872
It means you're a loser using yet another botnet.
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Not even the EFF can save you now.
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>>61976383
>>61976395
you got seriously this assblasted over a meme? jesus
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>>61976395
Have you been reading this thread at all?
Its literally been "everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/
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>>61976375
Really?
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>>61975715
4chan is their safe space?

How new are you?
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I know everyone shits on these threads but I find them entertaining and are much better than screenfetch or speccy threads :^)
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Tfw you just want to fight for net neutrality but the left and right keep ruining everything
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>>61976456
hello my fellow centrist :^)
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>>61975779
Why are you in this thread then? No one forced you to hit reply nigga
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>>61976623
his commie discord group / subreddit sent him here
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wtf should i switch to chromium
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>>61975715
>tfw they're literally so useless, uneducated, and lazy they won't do shit
remember when they didn't even migrate to 8ch
remember when they didn't even migrate to voat

lmaoooooo they literally can't even fully move to services built for them
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>>61975684
It's about Mozilla the organization not its browser you fucking /pol/ nigger.
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>>61976831
>>61976355
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> The only ones that makes off-topic posts in other boards are the right wing nuts from /pol/
It really activates the almonds
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>>61975607
tolerance doesn't mean lack of hate.
You can hate something but yet you can tolerate it.
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>>61976889
Gas the jews
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>>61976889
>identity politics
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>>61975672
>news of a major tech organization moving to censor the internet
>nothing to do with tech
I'm sorry this isn't another thread about video game benchmarks. Maybe you should try /v/.
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>>61977327
> Corporation exercising its right to do whatever the fuck it wants as long as it's not illegal
> CAN'T YOU SEE THIS IS BAD?????????
What happened to no step on snek and all that shit?
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>>61976040
You're also forgetting
>And not in the streets
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>>61975624
The problem with /pol/ is that they are like a bull rushing against an objective. The real enemies are the neo-marxists, they are in everything, not only in politics but in entertainment and technology.

Do not let them to seize power, or you are asking for a 1984.
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>>61977474
>What happened to no step on snek
Nobody is advocating for government intervention in this. They're advocating for people to protest and boycott companies doing things they don't like, which is exactly the capitalist and American way to handle such a scenario.
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>>61975607
it's good unless you cut some liberties to get it. Forcing change won't make things better. It takes time and patience, something or red friends lack or simply don't care.
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>>61976040
free speech is a social construct
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>>61977543
>They're advocating for people to protest and boycott companies doing things they don't like
This doesn't even work when companies are committing serious human rights violations. What makes you think some PR moves will start the fire?
Liberals didn't even stop eating at Chick-Fil-A for more than a month, and these same people are WAY more likely than conservatives to shop based on politics (i.e. Whole Foods). Similarly, the Christian right forgot about the Target bathroom controversy almost immediately.
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>>61975323
>Make a fork of it if you don't like where the project is headed
dont make any fork of anything mozilla, let this company and their culture die.
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