/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>61953973
first for xmonad

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first for Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>61953973
Should I get a Linux+?

>>61954063
yes

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Wizards assemble! >>61907876

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>>61954075

>>61954066
Would it help with the issues I mentioned here?
>>61953612
>>61953653

>>61954158
read lfs if you want an intimate understanding of linux

>>61954158
Install Source Mage (not even memeing).
It's LFS with a package manager.
It's package management system is simpler than gentoo's, but it provides the same level of customizability none the less.
It doesn't use systemd.
They have their own simple init scripts system implementation.
Both the package management tools and the init system are simple bash and therefore their inner workings are not obscured.
There's no package repos.
Instead, you have grimoires (collections of spells) and each spell is a collection of scripts that tells sorcery (the package manager) how to obtain the code from directly from upstream, resolve dependencies and build and install the package (it basically operates on the same principle as the AUR).
You will be forced to learn to configure your kernel, deal with init scripts, things like wpa_supplicant if you're using wifi, what xorg features you need to enable while compiling it and what they do, etc.
I learned a bunch of stuff when I installed it.

What are some essential things to do after Linux installation?

>>61955084
Watching anime.

>>61955084
install gnu

>>61955084
If it's a regular distro, just enjoy it, but if it's Arch Linux, tell everyone about it.

>>61955110
>>61955122
Non meme answers, pls...

Why do I need to "go get" import packages instead of the go get tool doing it automatically? Doesn't it make more sense to just get everything for me instead of making me do it separately?

>>61955110
>>61955122
>>61955135
I meant do i need to run some commands to update things or something? Maybe some important tweaks to do?

>>61955084
Uninstall and install anything else if you installed arch

>>61955144
No..

>>61955156
No.

>>61955165
Why not

>>61955179
Do you want 5 gb of libraries imported every time?

>>61955192
As long as it only downloads what I have specified in imports then what's the problem? Shouldn't be 5gb or even 0.1gb.

What is correct way to install software? Built in software center application? Or should i use terminal? How often are programs in software center get updated?

>>61955300
Your package manager, only

Is there a way to hav more desktop sessions?
I'd like to be able to switch between GNOME and aome tiline window managers I want to play around with. Is this possible? If so, how?

>>61955482
login to different tty
launch de/we

>>61955084
uninstall and install source mage if you didn't install source mage

>>61955482

Absolutely retarded.
A window manager isn't supposed to be noticeable, yet you apparently want to notice it, because you're wasting time switching back and forth between two. Do you also eat your food with two spoons at the same time?

>>61955319
>Your package manager, only
Its the same thing as "software center" correct? Why though? For the most compatibility?

>>61955482
just ditch gnome already

I WANNA FUCK FREEDOM TAN

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>>61954075

>>61955716
d-dame!

Is "home" the same thing as "my documents" on Win?

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>>61954063
*GNU+Linux

why does my linux act like the ctrl key is being pressed intermittently

I have firejail installed and used firecfg to sylink the programs to firejail,but using firejail --list reports no programs using firejail,despite there being syslinks in /usr/local/bin.
What do

>>61955791
Windows doesn't really have an equivalent. Maybe my documents folder is somewhat close assuming most of your files are saved there rather than the Desktop or wherever else.
But one aspect of $HOME for which there's no counterpart in Windows as far as I'm aware (I haven't used it ages) is that programs are usually owned and run under different permissions.
Take Firefox for example. It gets installed as root, but allows users to run it. This way nothing you do while using Firefox can change its files. It stores personalized data for your user in $HOME
but if another user then runs Firefox they are getting the completely pristine untouched version of it because nothing the other user did could change anything in the Firefox install outside his $HOME. Your new user will then get his own personalized data stored inside his $HOME.

So GNU/Linux $HOME directories are not only a great way to keep your data together, but also are very effective at isolating data/modifications/customizations of different users from each other, and it's also a really good security model since typically anything you break, or malware you somehow get piggybacking on anything in your $HOME can't effect the root owned base installation of the software or other users.

>>61956010
Thank you! Can i also get your opinion on >>61955300 ?

when did these threads get so slow?

>>61955300
Best way to install packages is the CLI. Ubuntu and some other distros have graphical applications, "Software Center" being the worst of them. It's slow, shit and the fact that it labels proprietary software as "free" doesn't make it any better. Meanwhile on the CLI you get what you want, instantly. "aptitude" is here pretty beginner friendly because when you fuck up, it holds your hand.
rundown:
# update the list of avaiable programs (the sources)
aptitude update
# now search for something
aptitude search browser
# install a program
aptitude install w3m
# use program
w3m 4chan.org
# get rid of program
aptitude remove w3m
# upgrade all programs
aptitude safe-upgrade

If you really want a graphical interface, "synaptic" is a very good choice.

>>61958399
what the fuck

Where can I download CloverOS?

>>61958468
CloverOS is for the common folk.
Use Source Mage if you want to join the noble elite.

>>61958543
Sell me on it.

>>61958563
See >>61907876

Suck at finding stuff from the command line.
How does one search for files/folders in Linux?

>>61958626
find
locate
mlocate

>>61958626
It seems you also suck at finding answers to dumb questions via web search engines.
Open wide, I'll spoonfeed you https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-a-file-under-unix/

>>61958682
thanks fampai

What is a good Linux OS to start off with? I've heard mint is really nice

>>61958762
>mint
no

I'm also trying to live boot Linux with persistence on a MacBook. Anyone have any luck with that? I've tried with ubuntu but he persistence wasn't set up for some odd reason

>>61958762
You can start by reading the OP
>>61953973
>>What distro should I choose?
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

I'd suggest an Ubuntu variant.
Pick a DE (Desktop Environment) you like and install the one with that DE.

>>61958793
Why not just dual boot?

Ah alright, thanks

>>61958822
Would that be an easier option? I assume you can do it through parallels or something like that right?

>>61958866
It would be the better option.
And I don't see how that can be difficult either.
Shrink your OS X partition and install GNU/Linux next to it.
<insert search engine here> is your friend.

>>61958902
Ah ok, thanks for the help

Did CloverOS die?

>>61959399
didn't it die already years ago?

>>61959522
The new one.

why doesn't /g/ develop a script which installs gentoo?

>>61959583
gentoo already has an installer

Installed arch, any suggestions to make my desktop more comfy?

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>>61959654
kill me I forgot the picture

>>61959654
install gentoo

>>61959670
needs more arch logos

>>61959730
Working on it, got any recommendations?

>>61959399
CloverOS was never a thing.

>>61959583
What's the point?

>>61959670

# pacman -Rnsc $(pacman -Qlq | grep kde)
# pacman -S openbox tint2 rxvt-unicode mpv feh compton pcmanfm lxappearance dmenu

>configure
>download waifu wallpaper

$ feh --bg-fill <path/to/waifu/wallpaper>

>done

>>61959522
>>61959745
There have been threads every day for a month.

>>61959583
http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/12.10/gldt1210.svg forks of gentoo do have installers

>>61959768
CloverOS is another meaningless, pointless, purposeless derivative distro that's no different from the one it was derived from.
There is nothing that sets CloverOS apart from Gentoo and defines it as a separate distro.
CloverOS is nothing.
It's not a thing.

>>61959851
What finally killed it?

>>61959889
It was dead from the start.

>>61959973
I mean why did the threads stop?

>>61959980
They didn't.

>>61960031
There hasn't been one for 6+ hours.

>>61960060
Who cares.

>>61960075
I'm saying they stopped.

>>61960086
Good.

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trading comfy vending machine picture for help with my stupid question >>61960022

Is I3 really good for use with a laptop that's constantly on the move? Being able to quickly use the keyboard seems better than the touchpad.

I've noticed screen tearing on my laptop when using i3 and switching between workspaces and resizing windows, as well as static (buffer garbage). My laptop isn't old, I got it a few years ago.
Is this an issue with all i3 instances? Is there a way to avoid it? Should I use the little NVIDIA GPU my laptop came with instead of the Intel graphics for running my window manager?

would you say this is a:
>girl
or
>girl(male)
type of thread

>>61960613
i'd say your post was fake(gay)

>>61960613
all /fglt/ is faggots
next thread will be /flt/

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>>61960376
I would strongly recommend looking into CWM instead

>>61960912
Why's that? I've never heard of it.

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>>61961325
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cwm_(window_manager)

desu

>>61961436

Yeah I can look that up I was wondering why you strongly prefer it over i3.

>>61955084
install gentoo

>>61960613
yes

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>>61961463
it is very, very simple. I feel like it is way less complicated, cleaner, extremely lightweight. It has robust features, very good documentation, it is easy and the default setup and keybinds are great.

I feel like tiled window managers such as I3 were an absolute nightmare of complications compared to CWM. desu

iptables question here:
What hapens if I omit the "-m state" in iptables rules? Do any of you specify your state as NEW,ESTABLISHED etc?

What is the difference between:
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
and
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

Also, I have seen that some people use "-p tcp -m tcp" notation and some just put "-p tcp". What "-m tcp" even does?

I couldn't find a better thread for this kind of questions and man pages didn't answer them, so sorry if it is offtopic.

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>tfw cheap HP laptop
>arch linux causes a huge amount of issues on that machine
>KDE crashes on startup
Consumershit, not even once

Can I access the windows partition of my harddrive from a linux os?
Too lazy to move stuff onto a separate harddrive, only to move it back onto the same one.
Also, I want to stash my anime girls on there

>>61961787
>Can I access the windows partition of my harddrive from a linux os?
Yes
But you can't access ext4 partitions from windows

>>61960376

You can use your keyboard with any window manager.

>>61961802
There are programs that let you access ext4 partitions on windows, but they are read-only

I'm installing gentoo and I'm at the part where I need to install the base system. The wiki says to download it from a repo but the computer I'm installing to doesn't have an internet connection. I'm installing from the most recent livedvd, is there a way I can go through these steps but with the livedvd?

I can't find the source for the libnl-3-dev package. I find a prepackaged .deb, .rpm and other files, but no source to compile.

To cut a long story short, Void linux doesn't seem to have that package or any combination of it in their repositories, which I find strange since they have libnl3 just fine.

Anybody help me out?

>>61961731
>cheap laptop
>kde
To be fair in recent years Plasma hasn't been particularly high demanding, but still I can see it causing problems. Have you tried using i3 or something?

>>61953973
moar of her pls

>>61962076
To be more specific the wiki is mentioning using emerge and then eselect to install(update?) portage and then select a profile. Is there a copy of the portage stuff in the livedvd? If so will eselect work to list and select the profile?
Is emerge even necessary from a livedvd install?

>>61962190
i doubt the livedvd has a copy of the portage tree on the disk, nor the sources needed to install anything

>>61962158
Going to install Calculate Linux XFCE and also going to give i3 a shot
And the laptop should be more than capable of handling KDE, it has an A10 9600p which is a decent CPU

How can i add folder to the left menu in nautilus? The one with desktop/downloads/music/etc? Is it possible at all?

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>>61957616
Thank you.

>>61962248
If I already unpacked the stage3 tarball can I skip the portage thing for now until I can connect this machine?

>>61962363
>can I skip the portage thing for now
sure, but you can't install any packages without it

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>>61958399

>>61962317
1. drag n drop
2. right click->add to bookmarks/favourites

one of them should work

I installled nvidia drivers today in ubuntu. Shouldn't have done that.

>>61957616
>aptitude
Is it better than apt-get?

>>61962473
a different tool for different purposes.

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Looking for a quick to install distro with large repositories and shipping with KDE Plasma. For a desktop at work. No time to set up Arch at the moment.

Antergos KDE or Manjaro KDE? Never tried either. What about OpenSuse KDE? Any recommendations?

KDE Neon is too buggy. No idea about Kubuntu or Debian.

What is a good alternative DE to move away from Unity? I love how the top bar works and HUD and I wonder if there is a DE that can do something similar.

>>61963013
Arch Anywhere massively speeds up the Arch installation
But antergos is fine

>>61963588
Debian is good because it can stay being used on a laptop for years with an issue.

>>61963588
>>61963013

The ARch installation takes 10 minutes.
Only retards look for a "quick install" distribution, because that's something you do once and it has nothing to do with the things that make up a distribution.
You don't have time to "set up Arch", but you have time to ask retarded questions online.

Fucking idiots, stop posting you pretentious posers and retards.

>>61963905
When you never did it before it takes hours to read on every topic so you do it correctly.
Copy-pasting commands indeed just takes 10 minutes. The actual pretentious poser is you.
>lol arch is so easy ph34r my $k!lls

>>61953973
export GALLIUM_HUD="cpu0+cpu1+fps"

how to have this without the graph?

>>61963992

Arch installers go against the very principle of it (useless bug inducing abstraction layers).
It takes equally long to install as any other distribution from a minimal installer.

Nice projecting.

>>61963013

Every worthwhile distribution has approximately the same repository size.
You're an idiot who will not install any of those. You just want to ask retarded questions. It takes 5 minutes to look up the key points of a distribution and make a decision by yourself based on your requirements. But no, you want to ask in here and get subjective answers mixed with memes.

>>61964153
>Arch installers go against the very principle of it (useless bug inducing abstraction layers).
yet arch uses systemd

>install firefox on fresh arch
>no more alsa support
It's been nice knowing you lads, I'm surrendering to the chrome botnet

>>61964227
bad post

>>61964227
>not using apulse

>>61964227
Why don't you use pulseaudio, anon?
>inb4 poettering memes

I have a chicken-and-egg problem with package dependencies.
I'm not sure how it started, but I think I tried to upgrade VLC and it failed:

vlc : Depends: vlc-bin (= 2.2.6-3+b1) but it is not going to be installed

So I tried apt-get -f install:

dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/vlc-bin_2.2.6-3+b1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cvlc', which is also in package vlc-nox 2.2.3-1

So of course, I tried to purge vlc-nox:

vlc : Depends: vlc-bin (= 2.2.6-3+b1) but it is not going to be installed

But apt-get won't let me do anything until the broken dependency is solved. I'm stuck here, I don't know what else I can do about this.
I also tried to purge all of VLC, but there are other packages on my system that depend on it.

>>61963905
>>61964153
wtf. I'm currently running Arch on the old work pc and at home, setting it up is not an issue but configuring everything takes a few hours and definitely not ten minutes.

I don't want to spend my free time setting up a work computer. The time I spend at work I need to actually do work. I don't care about ricing, I just use Arch with lts Kernel for the AUR.

The ubuntu repos are missing stuff I need, you have to fetch it from websites or mess around with ppas. The AUR has everything. I just checked, and OpenSuse also has most of the things missing.

Torn between using Arch Anywhere (didn't know about this) or Suse. Never used OpenSuse, any recommendations?

>>61963013
Anything Debian based or Debian itself

>>61964220

>systemd meme parroter hasn't displayed his idiocy in a long time so he has to chime in in an unrelated discussion
Go ask your mom if it's too late to abort you.

>>61964344

You run the same programs on any distribution, sot he configuration takes the same amount of time.

Sure, you don't want to spend your time configuring it, but you want to spend it role-playing on an anoymous image based internet forum.

The AUR is the same as PPAs. OpenSUSE has also a similar system, but you don't know that, because all of your idiotic knowledge stems from memes.

You won't use any. You just like to bikeshed because it makes you feel important and smart.

>>61965072
>>61965052
calm down faggots, this is a friendly thread

On Debian/Ubuntu:

>run python3 setup.py install
>installs in /usr/local/

But

python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.prefix)"

gives me /usr.
Why does it still install it to /usr/local when I leave out the prefix?

>>61965634

Figured it out.

https://wiki.debian.org/Python#Deviations_from_upstream

How can anyone use this is beyond comprehension. I'm looking at the dist-packages and site-packages change and it's just retarded.

>>61965072
Not sure why you enjoy being an edgy faggot so much. I know that the AUR is similar to PPAs, and that open suse has OBS. Yet I have had a lot of issues with PPAs in the past. I was just asking for actual experience.

Obviously everything is similar to some degree, but by your logic any question at all is superfluous.

I'm going to install openSuse now.

Firefox 55: when I open an image with it, I'm not getting the usual magnifying glass with a + in it to signify that the image can be zoomed in.
Did something change in recent Firefox versions?

>>61962102
Anybody?

>>61962102

Debian split the package into multiple ones. Your Void package already contains those files.

>>61956010
Windows is supposed to have a /home equivalent of C:\Users but nothing fucking works right in Windows so that's less isolated than you might think.

>>61966290
It doesn't seem to because when trying to make the aircrack-ng suite, it says it can't find the development files for libnl3. So unless there's something else I'm missing, I don't know what else it is.

>>61962158
Plasma is crashy as shit because the developers use GPUs in weird ways and expose corner case bugs. GNOME and some WM+Compton setup do not have this problem.

>>61966317

Took me 7 seconds to find the package's name on the official website of the distribution. I suggest you first learn how to use your package manager or your distribution's website.

>>61966357
Oh. Whelp. I guess I am retarded. Thanks for the shove in the right direction.

>>61953973
I need more of this qt

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Void Linux any good?

>>61966662
I'm using it right now, and I'm really loving it. No systemdick and the xbps package manager is very nice. It's very fast and efficient, like Pacman and they have a good repository so it seems to me.

>>61966662
Void is for lower middle class.
Use Source Mage if you want to join the top tier of society.

>>61966697
Hope it won't crash with no survivors
So far, only debian based stuff has been running fine on my laptop
Everything else causes a fuckton of issues for some reason

>>61966789
Well I won't be able to say with any amount of certainty. Void is it's entirely own distribution, like Arch and Gentoo, not built upon prior giants like most others. You might be lucky.

>>61953973
I want a decent network analyzer to install on an embedded device i turned into a gateway firewall.

want protocol usage, bandwidth monitor, network utiliation, etc..

any suggestions?

Wizards, how can I print the current pipe content but process it further? Pseudo code:

cat file | print_file_content | grep stuff (print grepped output)

>>61966874
I tried to print it to stdout with "tee", but obvioulsy it then goes twice into grep.

>>61966874

What's the point of doing it in one command? What's preventing you from printing it and then using grep to find things?

>>61966874
Once in 100 years this redirection find its use:
cat file | tee >(grep stuff)

>>61967024
ty bb
>>61966929
Learning possibilities.

>>61966789
void werks. runit as an alternative to systemd is very simple and basic and the repo will almost definitely have what you need. there really isn't much more to say. As far as non-systemd rolling release distros go it does very well considering how many people maintain it.

Void is for people too cool for Arch but not cool enough for Gentoo.

>>61966834
any suggestions?

>>61967187
Try Cacti.

>>61967068
Probably going to give it a try
Is the Enlightenment DE decent? Looks fancy to say the least

Is it possible to limit/throttle CPU usage caused by EncFS?

Running it on a VPS for backups, I want to limit its impact on other applications. I know it will run longer.

xdotool replacement for wayland ????????

how do i do keyboard automation in wayland?

>>61967301
I like it, but some might say it's way too ricer.

>>61967322
shouldnt xdotool work in wayland (through xwayland)?

>>61967240
thanks looks neat

>>61967339
it only partially works, for example xdotool still seems to work with a wine application, but not gnome-terminal

from what i read x applications like xdotool are NOT suppose to work in wayland

>>61953973

pstree
systemd-+-acpid
        |-5*[agetty]
        |-dbus-daemon
        |-dhcpcd
        |-login---bash---pstree
        |-pppd
        |-systemd-+-(sd-pam)
        |         |-at-spi-bus-laun---2*[{at-spi-bus-laun}]
        |         |-dbus-daemon
        |         |-dconf-service---2*[{dconf-service}]
        |         `-gconfd-2
        |-systemd-journal
        |-systemd-logind
        |-systemd-timesyn---{systemd-timesyn}
        |-systemd-udevd
        `-wpa_supplicant

/bin/free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           1972         228        1175         156         569        1423
Swap:          2048          22        2026

WTF mang

>>61967301
DE is irrelevant. You apply your DE or lack thereof to your distro. use void specifially if you want what it offers. Otherwise void with xfce is the same as ubuntu with xfce.

comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)

This script works to give a list of user-installed packages on Ubango, but it doesn't work in the same way for Debian, could it be adapted somehow? Does anyone know what is different?

Is there any downside of using Kali Linux that is installed on a USB drive? I'm just looking to mess with pen testing.
And what's the difference of Kali vs any other Ubuntu distro? Just security pre-sets and pre-installed toolkit?

>god tier: the high overlords
Source Mage GNU/Linux
>top tier: the noble elite
CRUX, Slackware, Gentoo, Funtoo, GuixSD, OpenBSD
>upper middle class
Dragora GNU/Linux-libre, FreeBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD
>lower middle class
Void, Devuan, Exherbo, Parabola, Trisquel, gNewSense
>plebian tier: the lowly peons
Arch Linux, Debian
>flea bottom tier: the lowest of the low
OS X, Arch derivatives, Fedora/RedHat (+derivatives), Debian derivatives
>detritus tier
Windows, Android, ChromeOS

Thoughts?

>>61967680

>posted from my window computer

>>61967657
usb is really slow right

So what browsers other than firefox/chromium/chrome support greasemonkey scripts so I can use 4chanx?

>>61967708
USB 2.0 caps at 41MB/s so yes. Slower than USB 3.0.

Is Kali capable of being a daily use OS? Or should I just stick with a more popular distro and only boot into a Kali partition when needed? Trying to decide if I should dual boot on my T420 laptop.

>>61967754
Kali is never supposed to be a daily use distro, it's just for penetration testing

>>61967771
I figured as much. That's why I was asking about whether to install to disk or not. Seems like the distro would benefit from just being a bare bones Install on USB to be booted into only when needed. Hmm. Maybe I'll dual boot.

>>61967475
I do realize that
Just saw that it offered it as a DE and wanted some opinions on it

>>61967680
You are easily influenced by the suggestive power of memes.

>>61967771
>>61967754
>tfw I have to many ThinkPads and one has Kali as its only OS

Internet-less anon from last night here, I was the person asking about skipping portage. I decided to just use my phone as a usbN and tether it. The bad part is my speeds are being severely throttled right now. Nothing like downloading huge snapshots at dialup speeds.

>>61967680
>bsd

>>61968301
>lignux

>>61967771
There's nothing wrong with Kali as daily driver when you set it up as daily driver.

>>61968325
sure, but that means undoing everything that makes it kali, rather than debian

>>61967680
>God tier isn't NixOS, just some shitty sourcememe distro
You get points for GuixSD though. Stop believing memes and you will go far.

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>>61953973
Friendly reminder that Linux is just the kernel. Other kernels are:
The Muen Separation Kernel https://muen.sk/
and HiStar http://www.scs.stanford.edu/histar/

Operating Systems under GPL are:
FreeVMS http://www.freevms.net/
FreeDOS https://www.freedos.org/
Plan 9 https://github.com/brho/plan9
JNode http://www.jnode.org/
KolibriOS http://kolibrios.org/en/
ReactOS https://reactos.org/

Special mention to GNU/Hurd https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/
Arch Hurd http://www.archhurd.org/
Debian GNU/Hurd https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd

>>61967466
rm -rf .config/{d,g}conf
ram is normal
gnome would have been nice if it didn't use a shit load of ram

>>61968385
>everything
?

>>61968610
Do you even know how memory on Linux works?

>>61968297
Why are you doing that? Can't connect to wireless?

You should be able to just use wpa_supplicant, or if all else false just temporarily disable wireless security in your router, perform the installation, the re-enable it.

How much longer is GTK2 supported? Should I use GTK3 exclusively?

what is the point of linux when you cant play games or run industry standard software in order to get some work done? do you guys even have any jobs?

>>61968790
>what is the point of linux when you cant play games
you can though, you stupid cunt

>or run industry standard software in order to get some work done?
you can though, you stupid cunt (what even constitutes an industry standard, linux *IS* the fucking industry standard server on the majority of servers worldwide)

>do you guys even have any jobs?
yes you stupid cunt

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>>61968790
>industry standard
Is this the new meme buzzword ordinary people fall for?

>>61968790
Why bother making this post? Surely, altruism is not one of your traits -- so, why?
>>61968605
I appreciate this post. Thank you for informing me of these resources.

Quick question for you guys. I recently hooked up an external monitor to my laptop, and when I unplugged it I could no longer change my brightness.

xbacklight -get

returns nothing
I've tried to reset xrandr but it doesn't make any difference.

I can ONLY change the brightness by changing the number in

/sys/class/backlight...

Any ideas/help would be appreciated.

>>61968790
Does xrandr work?

xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --brightness 0.5 

What is the best distro?

>>61968707
Temporary living situation, I don't actually have wifi here yet

>>61968790
>can't play games
I do
>can't run industry standard software
>implying you have any job

>>61968830
np

>>61968915
>>61967680

>>61967068
Grub refuses to install for me

>>61968915
Source Mage GNU/Linux

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>>61968915
Depends on your needs but definitely give source mage a look

>>61968924
Oh, you're literally internetless.
lol, good luck with that

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>>61968915

Ok I seriously need help with this:
I use Darktable for my Photography Workflow. I want the newest version butr Ubuntu software center will only give me 2.0.3.
So I decided to install directly. I went to the homepage And tried to enter the commands according to my distro (Ubuntu 16.04 http://www.darktable.org/install/#ubuntu), but after the second line it already told me "Unable to find source package for Darktable". SO I tried adding the repository and then enter that second line again but that didnt help either.
I've been trying to figure this out for quite a while now.
Is there some way to download a tarball and just INSTALL it without going through the terminal?

>>61968950
That's some pretty nice rice senpai.

>>61968979
Not mine but I definitely wanted to share the pic from a fellow wizard

>>61968837
So I can change the backlight from the

/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

perfectly fine. xbacklight just doesn't seem to detect it anymore. I purged it, and it still doesn't work after reinstall. Is this possibly a xorg problem?

Why are cli text editors like vi, vim, emacs, and nano better than GUI text editors?

>>61969049
People dont use these necessarily because they are cli, people generally use these because they have so many keyboard shortcuts that you can do stuff alot quicker and easier than most other gui text editors once you get used to them.

also, emacs is generally run with a gui

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>>61969049
fizzbuzz in vim

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I've tried to install a bunch of different versions of ubuntu on my laptop and they all hang on either the log in screen after pressing enter or when shutting down right after clicking the shut down button. Kinda at the splash screen stage I guess.
I've looked for solutions online but they say to open the terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 but that just makes my mouse pointer disappear.
No idea what to try at this point, I never had this much trouble installing on my last laptop so idk
If anyone has experience with this pls help

>>61969270
You can do anything emacs can do under X in the terminal

>>61969348
does a ubuntu live boot work correctly?

if so, it honestly sounds as if your installs arent being installed correctly.

try booting into runlevel 1 instead of going into a full boot and check out your logs, either journalctl or /var/log/kern.log and try dmesg as well

>>61969369
pretty much, ya

>>61969049
What the other anon said. But another reason is also that if I'm already doing something in the terminal it's just a lot faster to edit some text or config in the terminal as well. Alternatively I'd have to wait a few more seconds for a gui text editor to pop up and then the window might spawn in a weird place so I'll want to move it, or since I'm using i3, a tiling window manager, if I don't have it set to open a new window on top of the current one it might rearrange some shit.

Other text editors are great if you're doing something like writing an essay. But if you're just editing config files or other technical things there really is no beating a CLI editor.

Also vim's different modes make me feel safe. I can just go in command mode when not typing and know that I won't accidentally insert some text or something.

>>61968957
Its going better than I thought it would. Same with the entire installation. Right now it's downloading the kernel sources with an eta of 1hr 40m. Boring but at least I'm making progress.

>>61968978
If you added a ppa and it has a lower priority, apt or apt-get will default to the higher priority package.
try apt policy <packagename>
pick the version u want from the version table, and apt install <package>=<version number>

>>61969415
Can you do LaTeX in terminal?

>>61969643
you can run latex programs from a termimal and you can write latex code in a terminal text editor but terminal doesnt display latex

>>61953973
what are the steps for ulibc missing from the gentoo handbook?

>>61969643
>>61969696
When I was writing my thesis in LaTeX I used vim.
I used a pdf viewer that automatically refreshed itself if the document changed, and made a vim macro that would save and build the pdf.

So I'd basically just type some shit, and activate the macro and the pdf view would automatically update.

I tried other GUI LaTeX editros with built in viewers first but I wasn't really happy with any of them. Can't remember why. It's possible I just couldn't get them working properly.

>>61969562
Now I know that I have the newest version, but still don't know how to install it

apt policy darktable
darktable:
  Installed: 2.0.3-1
  Candidate: 1:2.2.5-0pmjdebruijn1~xenial
  Version table:
     1:2.2.5-0pmjdebruijn1~xenial 500
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/pmjdebruijn/darktable-release/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.0.3-1 500
        500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

>>61969889
>>61969562
Lol, just used

sudo apt-get install darktable

and it worked. all it did was ask me for a second verification before install because the packages could not be authenticated.

>>61969923
Have a (You) for dedication and perseverance.

What package do you use to mount usbs on gentoo? I'm visiting CloverOS from Arch and trying to figure out what extra stuff you're using.

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Void is the new arch, abandon ship hipsters or you might get left behind.

>>61970055
Either use just do

sudo mount -o loop /dev/sdX /path/to/mount

or install spacefm/pcmanfm

When I make changes to my ~/.xinitrc file and other such files, the changes apply only to the current user. Is this normal or should I be doing something so that all users (such as root) have all the same settings?

>>61970055
pretty sure 'mount' is universal across all distributions

>>61970611
>~/.xinitrc
this implies only the user whos home directory it is located in.

for systemwide try /etc/X/xinit.d/xinit.conf or something like that

>>61970611
try
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
for systemwide

>>61970636
>>61970650
Thanks!

anyone tried ubuntu budgie? Is it decent? I've never used budgie.

just got my order from ThinkPenguin this afternoon - still setting up my system.

From someone who has only dabbled with Linux and is now converting over to full time - what are some must have program/applications?

Are hidden volumes still a thing now that TrueCrypt has been discontinued? Can you make a hidden volume within a disk that's been previously encrypted with dm-crypt?

# The following commands will report the location (filename and line number) of a function’s definition.  Assuming a function named foo,

        # Turn on extended shell debugging
        shopt -s extdebug

        # Display the function’s name, line number and fully qualified source file
        declare -F foo

        # Turn off extended shell debugging
        shopt -u extdebug

    For example, the output of these commands might be:

        foo 32 /source/private/main/developer/cue.pub.sh

The above might work only in bash, and not in POSIX shells in general.

KDE or XFCE?

>>61970842
Yes

>>61970864
Which?

>>61955736
Oregano?

>>61971097

$ cower -s oregano
aur/oregano v0.83.2.1-1 (36, 0.43)
    Schematic capture and circuit simulator

>>61961711
I dun know why you would use state NEW. -m is to us module, like a syntax extending. I guess tcp module is load by default.

why is sysvinit so much better and comfier than systemd and so much easier to use?

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Still trying to plan out putting Source Mage on my Pi, not sure how to swap out the parts of the kernel and boot loader to make it not blow up in my face. I've never done anything close to that before.
Someone in the now dead source mage thread linked https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi, but is this just all there is, to do exactly what's in here but instead of doing it to a gentoo build it's to source mage?

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>>61967680
>Android
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Android,
is in fact, GNU/Android, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Android.
Android is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Android, and these people are using it, but it is just a part
of the system they use. Android is jus ta layer: the set of UI and system libraries
that sit on top of GNU/Linux and provide things like window and app management.
The UI and libraries layer is an essential part of a mobile operating system, but
useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete mobile
operating system. Android is normally used in combination with the GNU operating
system: the whole system is basically GNU with Android added, or GNU/Android. All
the so-called "Andorid" OS is really just a distributions of GNU/Android.

>>61964297
Use dpkg -i --force-overwrite on that vlc-bin deb listed in the error message. I think that's the right command.
Or run aptitude and see if it has any more helpful solutions.

>>61967309
You can lower scheduling priority with the tool called nice. You can pin to cores too. Not sure how you could set a hard cap though.

I'm installing Slackware and chose the slow full format option on a 299GiB HDD. It's been an hour, how long is this going to take?

Is there a GNU sanctioned image hosting platform (Think Imgur) or something that is generally open source / accepted?

>>61971683
>slow format
Hours

>>61971730
How many?

>>61971736
Hours

>>61971742
How many hours? Like 3 or like 20?

>>61971339
Technically it's Android/Linux (or for folks who insist that the kernel is the complete OS: Just Linux).

>FSF sticker pack shipping costs $15 to my country
So much for "Free" Software Foundation, am I right? Ha ha...

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>>61971768
Free as in Freedom, not as in beer.

>>61971768
Just use a felt pen instead. It's like compiling the stickers yourself with -O3!

>>61971787
Wos san des fia kloane Maßgriag, oida.

>>61971768
Well it's not the free sticker foundation.

>>61971768
>living in a nonfree country

>>61971683
It took me about 16 hours to slow format a 1TB hdd if that helps.

>>61971840
fug
Thanks though.

bored+drunk shell script wizard here
give me something to do faglets

>>61971840
How long did it take you to choose packages?

I'm having trouble getting the Source Mage iso, pls help.

>>61971871
Code a zsh emulator in bash. Make sure to use lots of arrays.

>>61971871
What is the difference between
#!/bin/bash and #!/usr/bin/env bash?

>>61971896
Did you try turning it off and back on again?

>>61971906
Incl. tetris and all that jazz?
There's lots of stuff bash can do like zsh which isn't enabled by default. The bash manpage is a real goldmine.
>menu-complete
>extglob
>globstar
>>61971916
#! is the interpreter which tells with which program the script should be executed, /bin/bash is a "hard" path to the bash binary, /usr/bin/env bash calls first the env binay, which searches for the bash binary, so if bash is in /opt/, /usr/, /whatever/, "env" will find it, which makes scripts a bit more portable.

What mouse device should I choose on Slackware to use the clitmouse on my ThinkPad?

Is there a way to make a shell script only run on Linux+GNU and not on MacOS or BSD?

>>61972068
a) Stupid
b) Useless
c) Anyone could remove any checks
d) if/else uname

>>61972049
pls help

>>61971871
I need a thumbnail script that uses ffmpeg to grab X screens then scale them down.I have this script but i need a way to add the filename,dimensions,playtime, etc to the header.

>>61972068
first off, bsd guys are /free/ culture, do not bully bsd!
since macos ships a pretty outdated version of bash, you can annoy user by using newer bash syntax, for example using \e instead of \033 or \x1b to render colors, etc, check the bash changelog

>>61971354
That worked, thank you.

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>>61972132
You mean something like this?

>>61953973
Ok so I've been using debian for a while now and was feeling pretty comf but I fucked it up somehow with updates nad now neofetch says I'm using trisquel what did I do?

>>61972338
Yes, but it needs to add filename,size,time, etc to the top of the picture.

>>61972356
Stop using neofetch and use the glorious screenfetch.

Is Nautilus worth using outside of gnome or does it come with tons of dependencies? If I'm just running i3 on gentoo would is still be considered at least reasonably light?

>>61972368
Screenfetch also says OS: Trisquel 6.0.1 toutatis

>>61972365
>>61972132
For porn reasons?

>>61972377
no

>>61972392
So you're using Trisquel.

>>61972365
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#drawtext-1

Will anyone ever be able to top Xfce or is it just timeless perfection?

>>61971979
> there's lots of stuff bash can do
Friendly reminder, read the reply chain to get the context of a post before replying.

So is runit the best init system to use?
I did like systemd because it just made my system load like twice as fast as sysv so I only really would switch to something that was significantly better, what's the point otherwise?

>>61972464
If i knew that i wouldnt be asking

>>61972365
Oh dear no, I'm srsly too drunk for ffmpeg fuckery, but read what this guy said >>61972464, you basically just need to add a drawtext filter. I generated this >>61972338 with

_(){ f=$(ffprobe -loglevel 0 -select_streams v -show_streams "${1}" | grep -Po '(?<=nb_frames=).*'); ffmpeg -ss 10 -i "${1}" -frames:v 1 -vf "select=not(mod(n\,$((f/48)))),scale=240:-1,tile=8x6" "$(date +%s).png"; };_ rms.mp4

>>61972356
apt install trisquel?

Anyone here tried NixOS yet? Did it justwerk?

>>61972545
>NixOS
cucked guix

>>61972521
openrc

>>61972567
>Something is cucked because it's not part of a communist organisation
Really makes you think..

>>61972567
The sad truth is that NixOS will win the race, simply because it provides nonfree stuff which people need.

>>61972545
Yes I'm using it. It pretty much just works if your configuration is right. But the only place I had trouble actually figuring out how to properly configure something was in getting Thunar to display thumbnails. Other than that it's intuitive.

Also, you should note that if you download 3rd party binary software then it's definitely not "just works". You'll have to patch the binaries.
But once you get used to it it's not so bad. I got the new UT game working

>>61972594
>communist
kill yourself right now dumb burger

>>61972619
This is why I wrote a long post a few days ago asking if anyone wanted to start a project to create a non-free layer on top of GuixSD.

Even RMS himself doesn't mind people using non-free software, he is only against it being forced in any way.
In my opinion doing this would be way better not only for the future of GuixSD but also for spreading the philosophy of free software. People are much more likely to learn and support it if the core of their OS fights for their freedom than they are if all the devs just say whatever.

But I got not replies, so whatever.

>>61972633
>>61972594
here we go again

>>61972626
Out of curiosity, how did you get thumbnails to work in thunar?

GNU with thread added as communication platform:
>>61972658

>>61972633
I'm British you retarded cunt

>>61972675
Had to just use some xfce option for plugins and add the thumbnailers to it. Don't add Thunar to the normal list of installed packages, just let it get pulled in by that xfce option.

Usually the config is more simple. But I guess this is just one area they haven't payed too much attention to and assumed most people using Thunar would be on xfce I guess.

It's always possible to bundle Thunar and the thumbnailers yourself in the configuration, I just couldn't figure out the right way to do it, so that xfce option saved me.

asdasd

I made it all the way through installing grub, everything seemed to be going so well, then when I went to restart the system, it goes through post, tries to do something (one line of text appears in the top left but its way too fast to read) and then restarts. It does this in a loop over and over until you stop it. Where do I go from here? How do I figure out what I fucked up?

>>61973412
You didnt install the bootloader properly

I have a 4GB RAM, do i need swap partition?