/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

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Help me choose guys

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-4-40-Headphones-BT/dp/B01MSZSJE9
https://www.amazon.com/Koss-BT540i-Bluetooth-Headphones-Silver/dp/B00MIJU844/
https://www.amazon.com/Resolution-Compatible-Dynamic-Bluetooth-Headphone/dp/B01NA6SMTK

>>61949708
Hm, OP girl quite adorable.
Much good taste.

>>61949708
Repost from last thread

>Budget
$$$$$$

>Location
Straya

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full sized, Active noise cancelling (either no battery or both powered and battery)

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Noise cancelling is more important

>Sound signature
IDC, I just need them for audiobooks and lectures in a loud environment.

>Past headphones
$7 rejects from Harvey Norman dumpster

>>61949708
Anime is shit

hpg>csg>spg>wdg>dpt>shit>ptg>flt>>>>>>>>>fglt
This is objective truth, you cannot debate me on this fact.

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*snap*

>>61950137
A certain someone just showed up so /hpg/ should be dead last.

>>61950190
This image is poorly sealed and has been debunked

>>61950028
4chan is anime.

>Budget
$350
>Location
USA
>Source
Schiit stack
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
As neutral as possible
>Past headphones
HD598, M40X

>>61950319
HD600 is your best option.

>>61949749
Pioneer ones because of aptx. I must ask though, why Bluetooth?

>>61950319
He-400i

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>>61950319
HD600, the objectively most neutral headphone in production.

>>61950357
>tfw I bought the 650s instead

Can I EQ these to sound like the 600s?

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>>61950367
Yes, simply use a shelf filter to lower all frequencies below 100hz by 3db.

>>61950386
*1000hz

>Ask advice
>0 (you)'s
>Shitpost about hd600
>5 (you)'s in 30 minutes
This general needs to be shut down.

>>61950357
that's wrong though.

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>>61950499
Nope.

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which one is better?

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>>61950357
>rolled off treble
>no sub bass
>bass hump

>the most neutral

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>>61950558
>accurate non ear rape treble
>no niggerbass
>euphonic warm tilt
You're right, it's better than neutral.

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>>61950558
Here senpai. This should give you all the treble you need and plenty sub bass extension

>>61950694
>accurate treble
>nosedive past 8k
>no niggerbass
>nosedive past 100hz
>better than neutral

this is cancer and it needs to stop.

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>>61950694
Timestamp your HD600s please

>>61950734
The graph I posted which is properly sealed shows treble extension up to the limit of human hearing (17-19K) and 30Hz in line with 1KHz. This post has been debunked, and is poorly sealed.

>>61950752
>has recessed mids
>30hz drop off is justified
>treble extension up to the limit of human hearing
>at -8db
>implying it has treble

just stop.

>>61950499
>PLEB
What is the best sub 400$ open headphone in your opinion if it is not the HD600?

>>61950797
>says the HD600 recessed mids
>then says the HD600 has recessed bass and treble
Why go through all this trouble to call the HD600 what it is - flat and neutral.

Is NFB 11.28 that much better than the schiit stack (uber)? Trying to decide between those two, the nfb doesn't have line in unfortunately which might come in handy.

>>61950328
>I must ask though, why Bluetooth?
Somehow I fucked up every jack socket in last 4 phones.

Is it common or is it just me?

>>61950853
The NFB11 does not have any measurements. It only has endorsements from known audiophools and shills. Id suggest either waiting for measurements or purchasing a known transparent amp/DAC like the schiit stack or o2+odac.

>>61950319
HD600 master race

>>61950853
Personally I would rather support an American company than frosty chinamen.

>>61950800
he-400i
Modded fostex t50rp

>>61950934
Forget le trip

>>61950826
it has a dip at that specific frequency, which you then use to justify the lack of bass.

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>>61950853
It's better, but that's not to say you wouldn't be satisfied with the Schiit stack. It also costs a bit more, though it's currently on sale

>>61950293
Try stretching your headband and come back to us, senpai

One thing to note about the HE400i is they have a very open design that gives a nice soundstage but also leaks much more sound than the HD600. You could blast music on the HD600's and someone across the hall probably wouldn't hear it but the HE400i it would sound like someone is playing music on their cellphone.

>>61950357
>In production
But that's wrong now, dude

>>61951032
>Using open headphones near someone you don't want hearing
Now that's just a shit excuse

>>61950997
Nah, my justification is how human hearing works. 30hz doesn't add much to music other than special cases like nigger rap.

I ordered a pair of Here One's yesterday, how bad did I fuck up?

Ok guys I have DT990 and HD650 but what will be my next purchase? Mid-fi segment

>>61951131
Which one do you prefer or use the most?

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>was gifted something called Hyper-X gaming headset
>actually genuinely like it

I feel ashamed. At least it doesnt have fucking blinking LEDs

>>61951131
I'd suggest you try some AKGs to get the full mid fi trio going. Maybe the K702 or K7XX.

My motherboard has a digital audio out port, can I use it as an input instead?

I want to send my tv audio like this: TV -> mobo -> dac -> headphone. But when I do it with a 3.5 I get this buzzing sound and it's just atrocious. Was hoping that a digital cable would fix that. I want high quality audio for my PS2 damn it!

>>61951131
why you wanna have 3 different headsets at the same time?

>>61951098
>lowest note on a downtuned bass guitar is 31.5hz
>lowest note on a piano is 30hz
>lowest extension of kick drum is 30hz
>pipe organs
>Synthesizer

so you dont understand how human hearing works got it.

>>61951180
Just EQ it

>>61951164
>he doesn't have 3 pairs of ears

Best entry level(~$400) closed back headphones? They can be big because I'd just use them on the public bus and I carry a messenger bag so they'll fit in with my laptop even if its something the size of a hd600.
List of potential candidates:
Meze Neo 99
ATH MSR7
MDR-1A
Sennheiser HD1
Oppo PM-3
Denon AH-MM400
NAD VISO HP50
PSB M4U

I'm thinking the Meze or MSR7 might be the best buy. I would prefer a smooth and warm sound that excels at vocals and I am not sensitive to treble at all.

>>61951140
50/50
>>61951153
I was thinking abou K612. They say it's the most neutral one.
>>61951164
Because I'm autistic and it's fun

>>61951180
>boo hoo 30hz is the same loudness as 1KHz
When the only thing people can do is make mountains out of molehills, you know that headphone is good.

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>>61951145
that's a really good headset, I can tell from the bbig red X on the side and the gigantic mic. Truly a must have for all G A M E R S

Need a replacement for my now completely broken PX 200-II. These headphones lasted longer than any previous pairs I owned.


>Budget
<100€

>Location
Europe, Switzerland

>Source

Phone, rarely Laptop. Mostly for music. Considering buying a dedicated audio player except I have no idea which one.

>Type of headphone
Preferably full. IEMs only if <30€, I tend to lose or misplace them for some reason.

>Open or closed
Preferably closed, I always fuck up the mesh with velcro closures on open ones.

>Comfort level
Should be comfortable during longer flights or train rides. Should not be too large and portable. The Sennheiser px 200 were great.

>Sound signature
No idea. I listen to minimal techno/deep house or rock/punk 90% of the time.


>Past headphones
Sennheiser px 200 II, various AKG and cheap in-ears.

I always just went to the store and bought some. Bought the PX 200 at the airport, and they have lasted longer than anything previously. Took years until I had to fix the cable because it broke.

>>61951031
Why not stretch is the proper way by fully extending and then bending the metal underband, and not the fucking unbendable plastic?

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>>61950357
Sorry senpai, but there's a new kid on the block

>>61951215
next time use https://pastebin.com/

>>61951197
>I was thinking abou K612. They say it's the most neutral one.
Sounds like a radio. Weird big bump around 2.5KHz with very rolled off bass. It's definitely a very unique sounding headphone though. If you're a gamer it definitely gives incredible detail to everything around you (eg wind blowing through trees in witcher 3 or going inside a cave and hearing the water droplets). Music sounds very fresh and light to the ear without ever being too harsh.

To me they're a very specific set of tools to enjoy certain things. As a general headphone I think it's subpar. I can see it being one of the best headphones for people that don't care about bass at all

>>61951256
Planar? LCD?

>>61951291
Thanks. Now I don't want them :)

>>61951203
>molehill
>giant mid range dip and no bass

kek

>>61951308
>Planar
Yes
>LCD
Close.

>>61950357 should have stuck with >>61939137 though, to be honest

>>61951145
It's a rebranded takstar pro 80 and is a very good cheap headphone although not the best.
The new takstar pro 82 is fucking gorgeous and even better.
Other similarly good cheap closed backheadphones are the ath-m40x, isk HD9999, and dt770i

>>61951348
Which headphone is it? hifiman don't tend to have measurements like that afaik

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what do I do about the tinnitus

>>61951391
Audeze Sine. But they're on-ear, which may not be for everyone, including me. At least they both are sold at a similar price

>>61951417
Try doing a peroxide cleanse of your ears. Helped my tinnitus

>>61951256
>8dB nosedive in treble after 4K
>4dB chunk missing from lower mids
Nah

>>61951256
The graph is properly sealed and hasn't been debunked

>>61951417
Turn the volume up.

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>>61949708
Welp, I fell for the meme and bought pic related. Honestly these are really fucking good. Great addition to my small collection.

>>61950190
>buying plastic headphones
You deserve this desu

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>>61951494
Then eq, goy

>>61951513
post collection

>>61951215
HD569, HD380 Pro, HD280 Pro, mdr-7506, mdr-cd900st, cb-1

>>61951515
If you throw EQ into the mix the whole argument becomes pointless.

>>61950319
Template for an obvious HD600 recommendation.

I EQ'd my internal motherboard speaker now it sounds like a world class sound system.

>>61951527
Like the HD 600s on the bottom with no bass and no treble?

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>I gushed in my HE400S review, in some ways I preferred it over the HD 600. Comparing the HE4XX to the HD 600 again today I've got to say I still think it's better in some ways. The HD 600 is smoother and more liquid sounding, but it's got that veil, and the long hump in the bass/lower-mids response does give it a thick coloration compared to the HE4XX. Treble is a bit more strident in the HE4XX, and the presence area is a little more withdrawn, but bass extension and midrange neutrality are better than the HD 600. Bottom line: both are very good cans. But that price difference! People should be yelling, "Take my money!"

>>61951578
Then eq, goy

>>61951092
You could use HD600s near someone but probably not HE400i at the same volume. HE400i leaks so bad you might as well use speakers.

>>61951594
inb4 sennheiser shills say his opinion is invalid.

>>61951594
>Polite? Yes. Laid back? Sure. Slightly lacking in the airy sound of very good top end response? Okay. But not veiled...at least not the HD 600. I do think the HD 650 might be worthy of the moniker though.

>>61951594
Till's getting old... it sucks how hearing gets worse with the years. But these are still pretty good in FR. Too bad they're hifimans.
Shit quality, shit QC, shit support. Do they even sell the parts so you can fix it yourself when it inevitably breaks at some point.
I'd suggest buying the trusted and reliable HD600. Been around for 20 years, easy to take apart/put together, parts readily available and prices reasonable.

>>61951594
>Bottom line: both are very good cans
Hmm quite a different conclusion than the graphposters here, with hifiman's track record of sub-par build quality I'd still rather have the HD600s even at a higher price.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61951650
>reasonable prices
>$100 for a headband

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>>61951520
reposting because my phone keeps going Aussie on me
>rate

>>61951674
>>$100 for a headband
Actual prices.
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-600-avantgarde

Pretty cheap for some part you'd have to be quite the animal to break.

>600s headbands are designed to snap but that's ok because they'll sell me replacement parts
Lmao, cucks

>>61951696
Get rid of that gamer garbage, anon

>>61951687
If your phone saves orientation information in the EXIF of the photo 4chan deletes all EXIF information before posting, so it reverts to the original rotation orientation the file was captured in.

To get around this just open it up in a photo editor and re-save it. The saved copy will have the rotation hard saved to the photo, not just in EXIF.

>>61951610
They're both great headphones. I'm sure if someone was trying to decide between them they would be happy with either selection.
I'm leaning towards the he400s personally.

>>61950960
I am not trip i am genuinely asking

>>61951714
>>61951687

>>61951674 >>61951696
>$100 for a headband
Actual prices:
>£41.16 GBP
>$53.03 USD
Proof sennhaters systematically lie.

>>61951728
I know I just forgot mine. In my honest opinion if you're spending more than $200 on headphones, you should always shoot for a planar magnetic design.

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Soon™...

>>61951731
>Not supporting Sennheiser by emailing them for $100 replacement parts
>Inb4 those replacement parts snap easier

>>61951731
This. Check out my replacement headband, bros!

https://www.shapeways.com/product/9QKXAU59F/sennheiser-replacement-headband?li=gmerchant&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CNHCtr644swCFQeraQodvxkCSQ

>planars
Enjoy your harsh treble ringing.

>>61951762
>inb4 5 delays from Massdelay and they get in hands in feb of next year

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>>61951729
The Kraken headset is p gud for gayming tho, that 7.1 does wonders for hearing those sweet footsteps.

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>>61951785
Who are you talking to?

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>>61951785
>dynamic drivers
Enjoy massive amounts of distortion at common spl's
>inb4 non audible meme studies from the shitposter who doesn't understand acoustics.

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>>61951785
How does it feel to no longer have the flattest headphones?

>>61951899
>planars
>flat
Lol, you did a funny.

Recommended Amp/DAC for an HD600 under $150?

>>61951943
>Dynamics
>Flat
:^)
>>61951515

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Idol trash recommends HD600.
Flat like chihaya's chest.

>>61951953
DAC-X6

>>61951953
https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=120&cp_id=12008&cs_id=1200801&p_id=11567#

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>>61949744
superior HD600s reporting in
mobi2 + magni2 u soon

>>61951863
>thumbnail

Anyone know where I can find velour pads to fit an Superlux 681?

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>>61951863
More THD is good.

>>61951863
THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of audibility:
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_I.pdf
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_II.pdf
> In our next paper we will show that .01% THD of one type of nonlinear system can be perceived as unacceptable while 10% THD in another example is perceived as inaudible. Even one of these simple examples is sufficient to invalidate THD as a viable metric for discussion of the perception of distortion. Furthermore, 1% THD is not at all the same as 1% IM, but we will show that neither correlates with subjective perception.
>These results supported the skepticism that THD and IMD metrics were poor predictor of subjective perception of sound quality ratings.
Furthermore:
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044
>Research has suggested that non-linear properties of headphone responses have little effect
Furthermore:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e38e/b5526af06589596390cd585e6aa38c19344c.pdf
From this presentation given at the AES 129th convention:
>Conventional distortion measurements such as THD do not show reliable correlation to the ear’s perception

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>>61952019
Excellent taste in headphones, amp/dacs and waifus, Anon.

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>>61952075
t-thanks

>>61952061
>More THD is better

>>61951863
What's the THD of your beloved speakers?

>>61952015
>>61951997
Thanks anons, I also don't have a dedicated sound card. I was primarily going to use the HD600s for music and fun gaming. Should I be alright with the DAC-X6?

>>61949744
I ordered from the 2nd run of HD6xx, in the mean time i've got AKG K712 and Denon AH-D2000 to play around with.

using both the Fiio E10 and Monoprice Desktop amp.

I've also got the 5" monoprice studio monitors for my speaker setup.

>>61952123
His shitty little tin cans in his ugly neckbeard room probably have like 10% distortion across the board lol
The fat causes another 10%

>>61951671
HD580

>>61952138
Yes, it's a DAC+AMP.
Its got good specs for the price. It's flaw is too high output impedance. That's irrelevant with HD600, as they're 300ohm, but if you ever want to drive low-impedance headphones (<100ohm), you should stretch your budget and get the modi+magni stack instead.

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>>61952061

>>61952138
The DAC X6 has no pre-outs compared to the Monoprice desktop amp, besides that they'll both do basically the same thing.

>>61952033
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velour-Velvet-Ear-Pads-Cushion-Superlux-HD-HMD-Series-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/261643450065

>>61952138
Ideally the Monoprice one, unless the DAC-X6 is the only one you can get where you live

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what are good non-noise cancelling earphones? i want them for just walking around the house
looking at yuin but what are some other options?

>>61952170
>>61952198
>>61952180
So if I can't afford to stretch my budget for the modi-magni stack, the monoprice is more ideal?
I'm relatively new to this but would having no dedicated sound card hinder my listening experience or is it negligible? Assuming I'm using an amp of course.

>>61952280
The monoprice desktop amp or the DAC X6 are both essentially USB sound cards to help you think of it properly.

They ARE sound cards, AND headphone amps.


So you DO have a dedicated sound card, just USB based, not internal like you're used to.

>>61952300
Ahh okay, thanks!
I'll go with the monoprice then.

>>61952280
Yes, unless you want to spend somewhere around the $200 range, the Monoprice one is pretty much the go-to as long as the 10 ohm output impedance isn't going to be an issue. Not going to be a problem at all with the HD600

>>61952123
.5%-1.2% thd across the range. 1.2% is at the breakup point of the tweeter (which is 30khz) making it non audible.

>>61952148
oh hi sennshill, how's your tiny dick doin?

>>61952148
>thinking this is even remotely funny

are you 14?

>>61952346
Source? Graph?

>>61952325
Cool, just be aware you'll want to make sure you use headphones with a greater than 80ohm impedance.

The HD600 at 300ohm are more than fine.

But something like ear buds which can be ~16ohm would not.

Might I ask a hi-fi question?

>>61952346
Did you measure it in your room? Room acoustics will affect thd.

>>61951525
All of them are huge. Are there any smaller ones? Or open ones which do not snag on velcro?

>>61952148
>lol
-___- xDDD

>>61952386
I'll pull some up from my work when I get the chance. My Alon IVs aren't original, we did measurements in our anechoic chamber after I installed the upgraded components.

>>61952400
Sure thing dude.

>>61952280
If you want to just use your computer's lineout, then $99 buys you a magni2, which is an excellent amp.
Else, if your onboard dac sucks, you might want to buy a DAC usb stick later. There's good ones for <$30. I don't have a link handy, but if you ask around here you'd get recommendations.

I'd actually suggest going this way (getting the magni2).

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These actually sound fantastic. Make sure your phone supports aptX.

>>61952435
You asked for full-sized.
If you never got full-sized, I'd suggest just doing so.

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>>61952465
Thanks awfully.

I currently have a Denon RCD-M40DAB paired with Monitor Audio Bronze 1's which I use for music as well as with the TV. As these only go down to 55Hz, the low end is somewhat lacking. My hi-fi has a subwoofer output so I would like to know how much I'd have to reasonably spend to realise a worthwhile improvement.

The MA Bronze W10 (which seems like the logical choice) would require some significant sacrifices elsewhere to afford at the current time, as would the Dali E9F recommended by my local hi-fi shop.

>>61952566
*The picture is from when I was in a tiny flat. They're now properly set up on my desk with an adequate distance from the wall.

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Nth for dac x6.
Awesome amp

>>61952280
A typical recommendation around here is to grab a Fulla 2 ($99), which is an excellent dac + a decent amp (particularly considering it's usb powered).
This will drive HD600 sufficiently, unless you want to go real loud. If so, the upgrade path is to add a magni 2 to the dac-out of the fulla2.
A few anons in this board do use this fulla2+magni2 stack with HD600 or HD650. Very popular setup.

>>61952605
The Fulla2 doesn't suffice for many classical recordings or opera.

Not that it matters for everyone, but it's pretty annoying for those of us who do. The HD600/650 need a decent amp to really give classical music justice.

Are the HD650s better than the HD600s? They look similar and I don't know how the numbering works.

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>>61952548
Have some at work. These are mostly for travel and commuting.

Sorry I should have specified this. I liked the PX 200 because they didn't have the flimsy mesh like the open ones, but still had a smaller profile.

>>61952621
That's where the magni2 comes into play.
Software gain as a stopgap.

>>61952582
if the receiver has line outs, there are plenty of options. If I were you, take a look into emotiva, svs, hsu research for good subwoofers new. Svs and hsu in particular are known for offering the best bang for buck as far as subwoofers. I'd recommend going with a sealed sub as well, ported subs create a significant delay as a sacrifice for extension, making them harder to pair properly with speakers.

If you're willing to go used. Look into Carver Sunfire subs on eBay or audiogon. That design is incredible for both the size, extension, and quality it offers and examples can be found for $200-300 typically in good condition.

>>61952646
Idol trash here. I'm familiar with the PX-100 (own) and PX-200 (used). On-ears are nice for outside use, but full sized cans are where it's at for quality+comfort, especially the open sort.
There's also IEMs... they will give you quality but no semblance of comfort.

>>61952661
What's your take on the vidar?
http://www.schiit.com/products/vidar

>>61952643
Depends what you prefer. HD650 is warm, HD600 is more neutral.

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I posted close to a week ago about how I bought a faulty pair of OB-1's and someone suggested that I just get a pair of Philips SHP9500s' instead. They just came in the mail and they're great. If you're here anon, thanks for the recommendation.

>>61952661
Thank you. Unfortunately it doesn't have a line out.

>extension
Might I ask what that means? All Google came up with was extension cables.

I'm putting it in a fairly small room so volume shouldn't be an issue and I care more about precision (rather than the monotonal boom I've experienced with PC subwoofers):
>>61952367

>>61952730
Yeah, the CB-1 are good for the price, but that doesn't extend to OB-1.
SHP9500s are excellent for the price, so you did well.

>>61952734
If it has a sub out that's what I meant by line outs (output for a sub). As far as extension, I'm referring to how low the subwoofer.

>>61952650
sure, but my argument is if you know you're buying decently high impedance headphones you might as well go with something like the DAC X6 or the Monoprice Desktop amp.

The 10Ohm output impedance isn't an issue if you know you'll be using high impedance cans. The Magni 2 is a great amp, but the Monoprice desktop amp is 90% of the quality for half the cost of the Schitt stack. Even less than half if it's still on sale like it has been for the past week.

>>61952835
Thanks again. Unfortunately, all the brands you listed are well outside of my price range once British taxes are applied. but I'll keep looking.

>>61952361
>sennshill
Are you retarded?

>>61952681
Thanks, Iam looking for something for outside use that is not too large. Any recommendations for on-ears?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrr-GAlHzLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWaIDITScI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVI2d_Fap4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUla3a-nes0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQCDES6HU8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL4BbYnse88

They're all wrong. Literally everyone is wrong. The HD600/650s are better. Planars are a meme.

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>>61953198
Why are you trying to defend your HD 600s so hard, senpai?

>>61953031
I don't use headphones outside, but a recommendation that's often thrown around is the koss portapro. They're like $35 and supposedly excellent value.

>>61953235
eq it, goy

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>>61953235
I'm saying that sennshills are fucking delusional.

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>>61953273
Sorry senpai, I didn't have the time to watch all those vids

>>61953198
So is the monolith good or what?

>>61951671
hd579

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>>61953235
Honk city: the headphone.

>>61953308
Over the no bass and treble? Eq it, goy!

>>61953308
Doug. You raped Patti.

>>61953281
Basically everyone gushing over how insanely good the value is compared to anything else at 300 dollars or below, that despite not being as neutral and analytical as the HDs, they sound miles better, equal to headphones costing almost 1000$ - if you can put up with them being really shitty build quality and possibly requiring a simple mod to alter the sound to your personal preferences.

Z is basically cumming during his review. DMS3 calls them end-game along with the NFB-11 dac/amp or a schiit stack.

Even some nobody spic who has only ever owned a pair of HD650s preferred the m1060s after trying them.

>>61953331
You first. Now go buy yourself some drop dead sexy HD600s.

>>61953249
>>61953031
The Porta Pros are pretty much impossible to beat at that price, I've had many of them over the years. Only problems I've had with them is the cord coming loose by the plug, but can't really blame the headphones for that

>>61953342
Planars are where it's at, anon. No need to fix the no bass there

>>61953340
>despite not being as neutral... as the HDs
So they're objectively inferior. Got it.

>>61953363
Instead you have ugly honky mids which you gotta fix.

>>61953387
>mfw
>>61940708

>>61953378
No need to shill your headphones anymore, anon. They aren't the flattest cans on the market anymore; didn't you hear? You've been let go from the Sennheiser shilling department

>>61953387 >>61953308
"flat" niggerbass.
messy mids
"good"
>honk!

Anyone else have experience with Audioquest Dragonfly Black? I own it and clearly it's better than onboard trash, but as a foreign semi-poorfag I can't compare it to anything. Can someone spoonfeed me its characteristics compared to other amp/dac boys in da hood.

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>>61953421
>Flat is now nigger bass

>>61953378
I used to get triggered by bait like this, but now I just find it humorous. Like, I get it now. Before I was letting my own beliefs and loyalties get in the way of just seeing clearly what the truth was, so I would project my insecurity and shame onto the trolls.

Nah, you shills keep doing what you're doing. You're like, weeding out the weak. Anyone that actually falls for it is falling for low-hanging fruit and deserves to be rustled.

>>61953447
Compensation curves roll off the bass for a reason.
Flat bass is nigger bass.

>>61949708
Looking at buying some earphones and im on a smal budget

found the sennheiser m2iei's, are these any good

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Literally tinny and veiled.

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>>61953480
>No bass is poorly sealed
>Flat bass is nigger bass
>Inb4 anon is >>61940762

>>61953496
Plus they're on-ear! No anon is stupid enough to buy on-ear right? Why is he shilling headphones he doesn't have? What a hypocrite.

>>61953496
>Veiled
So, the HD 600s?
>Trying this hard to defend headphones anon doesn't own

>>61953427
Very low power output since it's using just USB.
The DAC itself is decent, though nothing amazing. It wouldn't be good for higher power headphones with high impedance.

>>61953514
On-ear certainly aren't optimal for long-term use and I'm pretty sure most of /g/ are NEETs who sit at their computer wearing headphones all day.

>>61953553
Nah, I'm a wagecuck who sits at his computer wearing headphones all day. Close though.

>>61953527
It's fine for my beyerdynamic dt770 32ohm and hifiman re00
the re00's build quality is ABSOLUTE TRASH also lolnobass

>>61949708
She's quite adorable. Who's she?

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>>61953661

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none of you even own headphones

>>61953695
God-tier headphones and based 2nd amendment supporter... but tiny monitor.

>>61953695
Speakers for life, anon

I wonder if the Sennheiser shill even owns the headphone

>>61953659
>dt770 32ohm and hifiman re00
yeah because both of those are easy to drive headphones.

Good luck with 300ohm HD600 or even HE-400i. Sure they're 32 ohm, but planar magnets need lots of power to get punchy accurate sound, otherwise it's just loud and sloppy on underpowered amps.

>>61953689
Thanks good anon.
https://temachii.deviantart.com/art/COMM-Jocelyn-Half-686196605

>>61953695
>sennheiser veil
>still gets a tube amp

i'd puke

>>61951007
>glomf(11)
Why does the glomf poster do this to himself?

>>61953745
>sennheiser veil
Debunked.

>>61953745
hybrid tube amp that just gives it a touch of magic

>>61953803
>Inb4 doesn't own the headphones

Full size headphone fags, how often do you clean your pads? What materials do you use? Do you simply replace them?
Do you even wear full-size in the heat of summer?

>>61953820
I use masking tape like a lint roller once in awhile

>>61953820
>Using headphones
>Not taping speakers to your ears

>>61953848
earspeakers!

>>61951513
If only they weren't so ugly.

>>61953820
I use antibacterial hand/face wipes to get the skin oils out

>>61953855
Stax!

>>61953911
See through!

How are HD650s with hip-hop beats and instrumentals?

>>61953980
Sweet and nice

So anons, who are all the known posters of /hpg/?

>>61954012
That's good to know. I've been stuck between buying the 650 or 600.

>>61954050
The HD 600 is more neutral, whereas the HD 650 is darker. The 650 has more bass, whereas the 600 barely has any (Sub bass)

>>61952707
The vidar certainly looks interesting, I know one of the founders of schiit did work for sumo/sae/gas so it's probably well designed. The 400w mono mode is the most impressive aspect of it's performance. As a stereo amp, it's decent but not an amazing value. Emotiva would be a better choice.

>>61953980
windy and tailed

>>61953980
Rocky and inhuman.

>Budget
300€

>Location
Yurop

>Source
E10K

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Either

>Comfort level
Unimportant

>Sound signature
Neutral-ish with a small emphazis on bass but I'm most interested in the bass extension all the way to 30Hz. Not interested in agressive V headphones like the DT990 because of the ear rape

>Past headphones
DT990, K712

Current: HD650

Been reading alot about the M1060. I'm very happy with the 650 for everything except the bass. Could an EQ "fix" it? Or, actually, what about fixing the treble on the DT990s instead? I'd have to rebuy it though

>>61953980
he-400i would do much better.

>>61954182
Your E10K isn't really going to do justice to the HD650, let alone the M1060's.

>>61954219
This
>>61954182

>>61954219
>Your E10K isn't really going to do justice to the HD650
But they do

>>61954249
lol, FiiO even specifically says they're for 16-150ohm headphones, the HD650 are 300ohms.

They simply can't deliver the power necessary to give the HD650 punchy accurate sound.

Yes the E10K will get them to make noise, but it wont provide the power to do them justice. A better amp would give greater separation on the sound, a more accurate punchy bass, and probably overall more pleasant sounding.

I own HD650, and I can get loud enough volume from my motherboard's on-board sound so that the volume is fine, but that doesn't fucking mean it's anywhere near as good as a dedicated amp like the Schiit stack I have.

test

Lets do headphone manufacturer to anime studio analogies. I'll start: Sennheiser = KyoAni, a.k.a. undisputed best.

>>61954355
>>61954392
>>61954410
>>61954437
Almost all me

>>61954453
not me

Is /hpg/ degenerate?

>>61954410
Hifiman = DEEN
QUALITY issues all over the place but makes decent shows occasionally.

>>61954526
Haha


nice meeme

>>61954280
>FiiO even specifically says they're for 16-150ohm headphones
The 702 are 62ohms and they're a lot harder to drive than the DT990s 250ohm

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>>61954526
/hpg/ is degenerate

>>61950906
calm down ISIS

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>>61954921
ISIS members don't snap

>>61954541
own the 500 and 560. issue like everyone else with the attachment to the wire on the 500. easy fix though, rip them out and hot wire right to the cups.

THe 560 is stellar and I use it for hours a day almost every day going on 2 years now. it truly is a great value for the dollar.

Any suggestions for the next step up with in a reasonable price range?

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Lads, is the Creative E5 worth getting for 160$? Considering it over an O2 stack for some HD600's. Help appreciated.

>>61955074
>Creative
>Ever

>>61954591
>The 702 are 62ohms and they're a lot harder to drive than the DT990s 250ohm

k702 owner and they are about as hard to drive as my Hifman 560's

>>61955074
Absolutely not. Don't get the O2 either.

>>61955067
Honestly? In terms of neutrality it doesn't get much better than the 560. The HD600 is as neutral but "differently neutral" in that its more neutral in some respects but less in others. Maybe the HD800 if you're not shooting for true neutrality.

>>61955074
end-game dac/amp is either the modi/magni schiit stack or the NFB-11 from audio-gd.

Personally, if you can pay the extra shipping and don't mind the more complicated process of ordering them from china through personal emails to the company instead of an online store, and the 28 days they spend hand-building your unit, testing it rigorously, and burning it in for you before they ship it, go with NFB-11 and don't ever look at another dac/amp ever again for the rest of your life.

>>61955365
Those are some bold claims, Anon. I own the NFB-11 and I do like it a lot, but I'm not so sure about it lasting me my entire life.

>28 days they spend hand-building your unit

It doesn't normally take that long. Maybe when it's back-ordered, but I don't really know

>testing it rigorously, and burning it in for you before they ship it

More like a 100 hour stress test

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Is SHP9500 still a relevant meme? I want to try open headphones, I've owned only closed ones all my life

>>61955578
The best sub-$100 meme. Got mine for $60 CAD

>>61955635
Sadly, Amazon is the only available option for me, nobody sells them locally

>>61955643
Newegg is where I bought them

>>61955578
It is, but why cheapen out? Get HD600 and be done with it :^)

>>61955660
:^)

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>>61955578

>>61955704
>rtings

>mfw no bass is poorly sealed and flat bass is nigger bass

>>61955838
>HD600 is nobass
>HD650 is niggerbass

>>61951820
That's a pretty autistic claim. Friend of mine who has them hates PUBG rain matches because the rain is all bass and can't hear footsteps for shit because of it.
>>61952816
OB-1's shit stock. With some quick easy mods, they measured close to HD800 on flatplate.

>>61950554
for me bottom since the highs are smoother, but otherwise top for the bass and upper mids.
>Top shown at higher dB
There is a lot of uncertainty in that pic

There are so many mid-fi headphones. How do you ever stop looking into them?
I like my headphones but I'm still going to buy an HD600 and ATH-MSR7. Then after I do I'm sure I'll still spend all day here, or on amazon window shopping, or looking at FR graphs forever uncertain of my decisions.
>maybe these headphones will make me happy
>oh no! it's definitely these
>$550 later
>silly me, it's THOSE headphones that will finally fill the void
>hmm but what about those
this is my life and it is ending one day at a time.

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Where can I order cables like these but for my headphones not power?

>>61955865
>the rain is all bass and can't hear footsteps for shit because of it.

that is entirely realistic

>>61949749
OK, fuck it, I'm getting that Pioneers

>>61955942
Find somewhere you can listen and compare multiple models, buy one and shill it for the rest of your life.

>>61955704
It's confirmed. SHP9500 >>>> HD600.
Fuck yeah.

>>61955944
>not making them yourself

>>61955973
>rtings

>>61955978
>buying shitty hd600
I bet you some /csg/ IEMs sound better than those ugly outdated pieces of shit. I mean come on, the HD600 is so old and crappy looking is it really that uprising that it can be beat in sound quality for $65 all these years later?

>>61956004
Anon, I recommend you some HD600.

>>61956004
The drivers have changed, but it's the same ol' chink build quality

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>>61955942
You start looking into hi-fi headphones.

>>61951756
I am thinking about the m1060 or the he400i. Is m1060 is hyped and full of shit? Some compare it to lcd2

>>61956042
I doubt they are that good, but they're noice for the price

>>61956042
Just needs some new pads and a mod or two and it's very good. Some guy has a vendetta against monoprice in this thread but don't listen to him.
Also monoprice has easy returns and they have a long warranty on the m1060.
You could give it a shot and just send it back if you do not like it. That's my plan when I get my student loan disbursement.

>>61956042
HE-400i doesn't have the ringing issue that the M1060 does. If you're willing to chance Hifiman build quality (monoprice's isn't much better), the HE-4XX would be the best deal.

Hiya, /g/, /fit/ here
I'm looking to get a pair of Bluetooth headphones, preferably of the in-the-ear variety, so I can continue to listen to my music while using my camera to record sets.
The jaybird x2's came recommended to me by a fellow /fit/izen, which I could cop on eBay used for like $50, but I was wondering if the shilling out for the x3's would be worth it.
If they're both garbage, I'm open to suggestions, and am open to the idea of getting over-the ear headphones, since noise cancelation/isolation is a bit of a concern since I also commute via the subway.
If it helps, I'm willing to go up to around $200 as far as price point goes.

Anyone know of some good earbuds for less than $50? Over-ears are great but after about 30 min. they get really uncomfortable and they always fuck up my hair. Just looking for something nice to use while in class or while on the go without looking autistic

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>>61956042
>>61956067
>>61956082
>>61956128
Just want to mention, for what it's worth, reddit absolutely fucking hates the m1060s. Any threads about them gets instantly down-voted and vanishes.

>>61956197
Why would I trust the words of a redditor? Off you go.

>>61956185
KZ ZS5 + new eartips

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I asked for advice in this thread last week about a replacement amp and ended up buying a magni 2 on the advice of this thread. Been listening all day and it's just a wonderful amp.

Thanks for the great advice guys.

>>61956197
Reddit is one large circlejerk, but I guess it isn't any better than /hpg/; just a different flavour

>>61956231
you got meme'd, the magni 2 is a shit amp
it's THD is too low to be any good

>>61956208
You misunderstand me. Reddit is fucking retarded, and that's why I mentioned that they hate the m1060. Basically, whatever their opinion of anything is, you can take the opposite of that opinion as the truth of the matter in confidence.

For example, they shill the HD600/650 as being better than literally any headphone ever at ANY price point, even Stax and shit like that. It's absolutely degenerate. Like, if you thought sennshill was bad, ho boy, he's like, just a taste of reddit.

>>61956231
>>61956250
This. The cheapest AMP from 1980 should suffice.

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>>61956219
Damn, they seem really good from what I see, how is the fit though? I usually use pic related because they fit my ears alot nicer than the rubber-tipped ones

>>61956231
magni 2 is a fantastic amp. Glad you're enjoying it anon. Ignore the trolls, or laugh at their futile efforts, for you are enlightened now and know that the truth points to itself.

>>61956264
> Basically, whatever their opinion of anything is, you can take the opposite of that opinion as the truth of the matter in confidence.
How would you know what their opinion was unless you were a redditor yourself? Get out of here, reddit scum.

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>>61956299

>>61956144
Never used jaybirds, so I can't say anything about them one way or the other.
Check here for IEM's
https://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ

One pair, the Sony SBH80 are labeled as being Bluetooth compatible, and are listed at $85; probably a happy medium for what you're asking, as far as sound and usage goes

>>61956250
You're right, it doesn't sound very (((warm))), maybe if I hook it up to a cassette player

>>61956299
I literally just called reddit shit and said not to listen to them and you're firing shots at me for saying that.

The fuck, are you retarded?

>>61956271
>how is the fit though?

depends on the eartips you use

I'm a mentally challenged retard, Explain to me when i need a amp or dac and would i need them if i buy a pair of DT 770 80ohm

>>61956334
Stop false flagging, reddit scum. You come here and tell us all about what reddit thinks and act like an expert about reddit's opinions, and you expect us to believe you're not a faggot redditor?

>>61956384 new thread

>>61956391
You're on a dumbass witchhunt. Prove to us you don't post on reddit faggot. I'll wait. OH wait, you can't. Therefore you're a fucking redditor, clearly.

>>61956411
Unlike you, I didn't come here with firsthand knowledge of reddit. But you're right about one thing - always do the opposite of what reddit says. Which means always do the opposite of what YOU say.

>>61950872

Not really common, but ive fucked up a few and known i've been abusing the jack.

>>61956429
Right, so you should do the opposite of what I said and hate the m1060s then, because I'm from reddit and claimed reddit hates the m1060s. That way you'll be echoing reddit instead of me.

Find a rope and fucking hang yourself.

>>61956447
>hate the m1060s
Yes, exactly. They're shit headphones and you're shilling them. Want to know how I'm so sure you're a redditor?

>>61956461
>This was about the M1060s all along
Top kek

>>61956475
>reddit scum's floundering literacy abilities in action
Tippity top kek

>>61956360
A DAC will only help if you think your source has issues. There are generally pretty modest improvements to be found here, some would argue none at all.

I have the 80 ohm and it sounds better with an amp, but it isn't absolutely necessary. It doesn't sound bad plugged right into my work PC. But any of the entry-level amp solutions will probably fill it out quite nicely.

>>61955147
>Maybe the HD800 if you're not shooting for true neutrality.

I'm not and my hifiman 560's might be end game for me. They really perform well with any drama. BUT, i have not heard the hd800s and have always coveted them. I just don't know if I will enjoy the music with them. I hear so many bad and great things about them. Also, I really don't want to sacrifice any more bass.

>>61951687
Never tried the razers, but the other 3 are really quite nice.

I love my moments, but sometimes i do need some bass, and the sony's deliver that.

Obviously neither pare is good on the go despite bluteooth, so the koss are still king there.

what's so special about these pads
>https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01J53KM32/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=A15PLPAN81GD6T&psc=1

it's apparently recommended for the Shure SRH1540, but it seems like a sidegrade compared to this so why bother
>https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00HXAV0UY/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

i want to try it, but only because it's easier to clean than earpads that are perforated

>>61957624
new thread m8

Differences between normal and uber magni2?