/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>61934688
>Quadraphonic headphones

Jesus Christ how horrifying.

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>>61934688
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

So for the past few years I've been using a pair of Ear force PX20s and they finally died. Getting new headphones soon and wondering what I should get but I have this weird problem. My pc has different ports up front for audio in and out. Most headphones have one output for both but even with a splitter my pc doesn't like it and won't get audio. Any ideas?

New chapter @ tale of shit

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-1571#post-13663375

>>61934815
I couldn't care less

>Budget
$150
>Location
3rd world, but I'll buy it from Amazon.com
>Source
Cellphone and tablet, will get a amp later on
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care LOL
>Sound signature
I just don't want too much bass
>Past headphones
HD 201 and SRH 440

>>61934896
Dt770pro 32ohm

HD600 replacement parts.

http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-600-avantgarde

A headband replacement is THAT CHEAP?

We've been lied to by the snapheiser shill. Not only do they not snap, but it doesn't even matter!

Hey, anyone had any exp with these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008P8EXJI/ref=twister_B00M0HW21G?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 ? Btw, why would one white ones be ~17 dollars cheaper than blacks?

Are Xears IEMs still a thing?
Had some several years ago and want some new ones as they have decent reviews and a good price.

Their website is now flagged as a malware domain in uBlock's filter list and they didn't respond to the email I wrote.

If they are dead, what are decent IEMs that cost around 50€?

>>61931861
>Foobar 1.3.12 - Bright sounding
>Foobar 1.3.13 - Boosted, dull sound, lacks clarity
>Foobar 1.3.13 Beta 1 and Beta 2 - Better than the final version at least
>Foobar 1.3.11 - Best version yet

>>61934896
Look into HD569, HD380 Pro, mdr-7506, mdr-cd900st, status cb-1.

>>61934931
Doesn't ship to my cunt and blows my budget off
>>61935079
Ok

Thanks

>>61934931
>Dt770pro 32ohm
That's melanin-enhanced bass.

>>61931748
>>61931861
They are the same headphone, the drivers and frame are identical, when RMAing a 6XX I was offered to be sent a 650 by Sennheiser themselves as a replacement or to approach Massdrop directly for a 6XX replacement.

convince me not to buy hd600s

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dipolar senpai please impregnate me~

>>61936057
They may snap from your fatass head

>>61935808
>when RMAing a 6XX I was offered to be sent a 650 by Sennheiser themselves as a replacement
So what? It does not mean anything.

>>61936102
They don't snap and it wouldn't matter anyway.
>>61934936

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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If I post more anime will I get more eurobeat flac links in return?

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>>61936207

Are the SHP9500s a meme?

>Budget
Up to $1000.00 I guess (nothing too expensive, because I need money for music). Need amp, and dac included in price.
>Location
U.S.A.
>Source
Cellphone, pc, laptop. Need amp/dac included with price.
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed (for travelling in public heavy environments like bus, trains, airplanes).
>Comfort level
Very important. Extended use.

Eyeballing Oppo PM3+ Ha-2. Should I go with these, or are there anything better that's available?

>>61936207
Deez nuts

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I'm trying to recable my Audio Technica ATH AD700s. How do I know where to solder the L/R/Ground cables on the driver circuitboard? I forgot to take a pic of the way it was soldered before.

>>61936149
>They don't snap
Prove me wrong :^)

>>61936091
jesus he said he wouldn't be posting for a while in the previous thread

>>61936207
Kill yourself you poorfag

>>61936284
honestly the best can you can get for the price. However, they're a bit bright and there's a bass roll-off. Nothing EQ couldn't fix.

>>61936284
Yes, but they are the best sub-$100 meme

Currently using a pair of ATH-M50s. The M50s headband is beginning to fall apart, and the cable has a few nicks and scratches on it, probably nearing its end life. Would I be better of buying a new pair of headphones or just a new headband + cable and then re-assembling my current headphones?

>>61936406
depends on your budget, dear anon

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>>61936254
I can't get you off my mind, Anon...

https://my.mixtape.moe/whfxnm.flac

>>61936406
m50x aren't very good. Probably worth getting new headphones.
For closed, >>61935079
Else (open), I'd suggest HD600 or HD579.

>>61936352
That's great news

>>61936430
Id be willing to spend $150 - $200 CAD, im thinking that repair is my best option, but I don't know how difficult it is to repair a pair of M50s

>>61936455
im sure it is, he hurt a lot of hd600 shills feelings.

>>61936291
>Oppo PM3+ Ha-2
Anyone oppose? This seems pretty good.

>>61936291
You could go with the MrSpeakers aeon, which is slightly more neutral than the PM3. I personally have the PM3 and its absolutely wonderful. Cups are on the small side though.

>>61936291
>1k
Anything that expensive is ill-suited for commute use.

>>61936639
>mr. speakers aeon
Genuinely looking at these now.
What for portable dac/amp. Will the ha-2 be enough for this?
>Cups are on the small side
I need big cups/pads for extended use, so the pm3 might be a no go now.

Why does my music sound better outputted through WASAPI compared to directsound? I'm not kidding, I'm switching between the two while the same song is still playing, and I can hear a clear difference between the two.

>>61936691
>Anything that expensive is ill-suited for commute use.
Suggestions?

Looking for new phones, since my old pair is pretty beat after the better part of a decade.

>Budget
$300 or less, slightly flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop, rarely Clip+
Mostly listening to jpop, jazz, classical and game audio.
>Type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Open
(I really just want a comparable soundstage to my AD700s, so if I can get it from a closed set, by all means suggest it!)
>Comfort level
Good enough to wear for hours. Doesn't have to be max comfy, but was happy with last pair.
>Sound signature
Bright
>Past headphones
ATH-AD700
I loved the huge soundstage, especially for vidya, and would like to find something similar. Really liked that they were so bass-light, too, since I'm a weak baby man and heavy bass makes me a bit nauseous. I see this as a good opportunity to "step up" instead of just replacing 'em with the same.

Also have a pair of portapros but they're just "fine" for when I'm listening on the go. Really prefer the AD700s.

>>61936311
I just cracked mine open yesterday, I'll take a pic in about two hours when I get back from work, if nobody else does before me.

>>61936707
Do you need a laptop USB DAC/AMP or something that has an internal battery for use with a cellphone?

>>61936724
The portapros are pretty popular for that use, at ~$35.

I'll probably break down and do it, buy the hd600(maybe 650? probably not). It's in my price range and I've been convinced it's the safe bet. Maybe I'd prefer the sound of the he400i or the r70x or something like that but I know at the very least that nothing is like objectively superior to the hd600 at the price.
I really want to hear planars but I get wet shit thrown in my face everytime I mention the m1060. As far as the he400i goes I would prefer it because apparently putting really high end pads on it improves the sound where as most people leave stock pads on the hd600. I would love to have a headphone with big lamb skin pads.
Anyone else have this problem where when you buy something you are unable to give up the idea that maybe something else would have been better for your money? Even though I love my headphones mouse keyboard and computer I spend all day looking at other ones.

>>61936726
>ATH-AD700
HD600.
You _will_ lose some soundstage, in exchange for accuracy. The open ATHs do exaggerate soundstage after all. It is a form of coloring.
It won't sound like it's playing in your skull like closed headphones, so do not worry too much about that.
>replacing the ATH-AD700
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-600-avantgarde
No spares for your ATH?

Protip: Do not spend more than $50 in throwaway headphones.

>>61936707
Should be enough for the Aeons, yeah.

Se215 is any ok?

For everything - listening music, music production, monitoring while djing and performing etc.

>>61936768
>but I get wet shit thrown in my face everytime I mention the m1060.
To be expected. Their resonance issue is unholy.
>HD600
Safe bet. Worst that can happen you hate them (amazon returns).
You're otherwise covered, as all parts are replaceable, and the parts are available and cheap. They can keep going for as long as that's the case. Already 20 years and going.

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>>61936825
Could I replace the oads on the hd600 or would that ruin them? I really want to buy and use pic related https://www.mrspeakers.com/shop/accessories/ear-pads/alpha-pads-genuine-lamb-leather.html
As an aside aren't these really popular for the t50rp? Is modding that a possible alternative to the hd600? I'm very comfortable getting my hands dirty and voiding warranty.

>>61936819
You should probably get UM Pro 30s instead. SE215s are really, really muddy, especially for the price.

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LONG STORY SHORT i ordered ATH-M40x's from AMAZON (was SHIPPED & SOLD by them at the time, i could SWEAR..) first package came, had some sh•tty SAMSON knock-offs in the original M40x box. Got a replacement sent, this time it sure LOOKS authentic but now I am suspicious. Would anyone bother to counterfeit a pair of these bad boys? No, rite? I've seen some stuff bout the M50's but not these. SOUNDS good, i THINK . . . highs were a lil more pronounced than I thought they'd be compared to MDR7506's... but... but it's balanced. HOW can i make sure of authenticity!!!! I MUST know 4sure ! ! !

>>61936858
Do you own a pair of SEs?

>>61936848
It'd affect the sound, negatively. Like most headphones, except ones with pads that are very close to the pictured ones. I can't recommend it.
>voiding warranty.
Pads are a replaceable part. If shit happens, you can always put the original ones back.

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>>61936433
Y-you too

>>61936904
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>61936768
HE4XX, perhaps? If you want a planar, that is. Personally I'd go for either the HD600 or HD650.

>>61936848
>Could I replace the oads on the hd600 or would that ruin them?

It will change the sound signature for the worse, especially those thick leather ones.

>>61936743
>The portapros are pretty popular for that use, at ~$35.
Portapros are nice for the price, and I have a pair, but do you have any real suggestions?

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>>61936870
>random capslock on every other word for emphasis
I'll be billing your insurance for my chemotherapy, because your post gave me cancer.

>>61936487
No it was more your insistence of being the authority on every product known to man while not even owning headphones.

>>61936726

> I just cracked mine open yesterday, I'll take a pic in about two hours when I get back from work, if nobody else does before me.

Thanks anon.

>>61936937
Not for outside use, unfortunately. I absolutely do not use headphones while on the go, I'd just get hit by a bus or run by a train.

>>61936728
>Do you need a laptop USB DAC/AMP or something that has an internal battery for use with a cellphone?
Yes. Right now I'm into
Mr. Speakers Aeon as suggested over PM3, and Oppo ha-2 for dac/amp.
Suggestions needed. Will be used for travelling with people/strangers around while in public spaces.

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>>61936904
>>61936912

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what headphones would megumin have?

>>61936858
They are x4 pricey as shure

>>61936990
Ones with explosive bass.

>>61936990
Portapros, because shes always a broke, but loves good sound.

>>61937003
>>61936990
SZ2000

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>>61936986

>>61936957
you mean like most hd600 shills? because you just described hd600 shills.

also what do you mean by you?

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>>61937031

>>61936957
he owns headphones. pretty sure he's posted pics of his headphones. I'm guessing you're the paranoid anon who shills hd600s without owning them?

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>>61936904
doki doki~

https://my.mixtape.moe/cnybxc.flac

>>61936947
H'HAAAAAAAA u funney – pls answer ~

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this is my current setup:
>sennheiser hd 650
>fiio a5 (for mobile usage)
>fiio x3 (using it as an external dac)

i am currently "ok" with this setup. but thinking about buying a better amp or a sound card than x3. thinking about xonar essence stx ii.

what do you think i should buy next so i can enjoy hd 650 to its fullest? especially interested in price - performance oriented products since i live in a 3rd world shithole.

>>61936785
I appreciate the honest recommendation, anon. I've been considering the HD600s but was cautious since they're the current meme headphones around here. Worst case I return 'em, anyhow, but they seem nice.

Especially as the AD700s are discontinued, spares seem rare and could just buy a lightly used replacement set off ebay for $50~80 instead. Could probably nag customer support to see if they still have any but figured I'd just take the opportunity to change things up a little.

>>61936957
>he's still this paranoid
>doesn't even own hd600s

>>61937083
they are a meme. get the he-400i instead if you want a better experience overall.

>>61936983
The PM3 looks like a better choice for portability, the Aeon is bulkier and has more cabling since each phone needs a cable running to it. Personally I would try to find a pair of headphones with short, portable cabling.

>>61937082
NFB-11.28

It's a really good value for how well it performs

>>61937138
>he-400i
Infamous for bad QC and bad support. Basically, hifiman says fuck you, and you're on your own.
HD600 a much much safer proposition.

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>>61937124
Wrong, guess which pair is defective and being replaced.

>>61936882
I used to but I hated them so much I got a refund.

>>61937001
I know, but totally worth it.

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>>61937082
hd650 works very nice with essence one

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>>61937083
I'm a different anon, but here's the reasonable bottom-line when it comes to HD600s.

They're very close to neutral and very accurate. At that price, they're the most neutral and most accurate headphone there is. However, that doesn't necessarily mean your music will sound better than a headphone with less accuracy or less neutrality. If you prefer more bass, then a different headphone in the same price range would better suit, such as the beyerdynamic DT880, or the hifiman 400i. All three of these headphones are very good and would not be a bad decision regardless of which one you choose. You can safely ignore any shills that want to argue about quality control or customer service as well, since the statistically probability of you receiving a faulty pair or running into any issues are extremely slim, but nevertheless, for the hundreds of thousands of people who are silent (because they had no issues) we get a hundred or so that bitch very loudly (because they got unlucky) and so they misrepresent how prevalent any issues with these different brands (sennheiser, beyerdynamics, hifiman, AKG, etc) really are.

>>61937232
Leave it to Asus to have a retarded logo/emblem design on every single fucking product they sell.

>>61934688
>Budget
$150, flexible
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Computer, desktop
>Type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Past headphones
General gaming shit

I'm going to use them for general gaming/music/computer shit, so comfort is a big plus, audio doesn't have to be absolutely 10/10, but good enough for spotify listening. I assume the recommendation is to get a separate mic, yes?

>>61937271
>Location
>Sweden
I'm so sorry.

>>61937284
Better than America.

>>61937183
it's unfortunate you received a defective unit, but once you get a properly working one you will like them better. im sorry that happened to you.

>>61937298
I disagree, and i'm not American.

>>61937183
What was wrong about them? Got any more pics?

>>61937319
Well your opinion is incorrect and I am.

>>61937308
I didn't know that the Sennheiser product support team browsers /hpd/. It kinda explains all the shilling for the HD600.

>>61937327
Then why don't you and all the other cucks move to Sweden or Canada if you hate it here so much.

>>61937355
Because they won't issue foreigners VISAs for no reason, and I'm not muslim.

>>61937320
Right pad was significantly thicker than left pad and when I played a 30hz tone it just sounded like some distorted fart sound in the right driver.

>>61936870
I'm suprised they got away with that. Call them back and say the tracking says it delivered but it's not here! And they'll give you your money back. That way if it's fake it doesn't matter!
You can use the cash to buy an iem or open back. Having a variety of headphones is the shit, even if it's entry level like the m40x, hd 558, shp 9500, etc. Being able to swap around headphones will give you new insights into your tastes and your favorite music.
>>61936928
I'm not ordering until the first week of october. I would buy them

>>61937173
And how does it performs? Like a normal amplifier powering headphones? Then why you call it a good value?

>>61936768
The first pair of decent headphones I got back in 2011 were the ATH M50s, and obviously this was even before the m50x revision existed. I've been using them daily for 6 years now, but finally caved and decided to order the massdropped hifiman he4xx that ship out in december after seeing a good analytical review of them on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRF7wlJCv20

>>61936870 >>61937427
Ugh no. Just return them. Don't be an asshole.

>>61937053
raphi an shit

>>61937493
t. bullied satania-kun

>>61937469
Best performing amp+dac combo unit under ~$750

sup /hpg/

Bought a classic47 kit off ebay last year per your recommendation. Put it together OK and it's been doing it's job.
Only complaint is with the provided 3.5mm sockets; unless the jacks are in the perfect position I only get one channel, and the slightest touch or bump will mess it up.

What do I need to get to replace them? are the sockets standard fit to pcb?

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>>61937529
>$750 on chinkshit

>>61937620
No, not $750. They're going for $300 right now since it's back-ordered. Normal price is $330. It's good chinkshit.

>>61937680
>good chinkshit
oxymoron

>>61937693
That's the joke, but for real I'm loving my NFB-11.28

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>>61937620
better chinkshit than indianshit

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>>61937769
What brand?

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>>61937059

>>61937801
allo.com

>>61937507
satania is too qt for the bully

>>61937852
I've read worse engrish before. considering what the same amount of money gets you from schiit audio, I would still go with frosty chinks

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>>61937852
>We are not building arts but we are doing our best for the gears.

So humble~

>>61937529
There are no measurements or evidence to support this claim. Only subjective impressions from known audiophools.

Do you guys have any recommendations for some good wireless earphones? I'm looking to use them in the gym.

>>61937852
At least the chinks are passionate, so i've got to give that to them

>>61938083
Kz zs5+ Bluetooth module.

>>61936140
They are the same headphone and there is nothing out there to suggest otherwise.

>>61938272
except all those graphs that show they measure differently...

>>61938291
>what are measurement tolerances
Go find me 'all those graphs' showing various HD650 models measuring identically you retarded cunt.

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>>61938291
Wow it's almost as if they're the same exact headphone

Will I hear difference between feeding signal to amp from my motherboard with Realtek chip and from HiFimeDIY Sabre ES9023?

>>61938418
possibly

>>61938385
He's just an upset shitposter that somehow didn't get in to the drop and wants to try claim the 6XX is somehow a lesser headphone.when it's a literal recolor.

>>61938505
>b-b-but it's so cheap, they MUST be cutting the costs somewhere, it's got mismatched drivers, yeah that's it, o-o-or, maybe they're reject HD650 drivers, yeah that's gotta be it!

>>61938532
They use a lesser quality paint job, that's it!

Suck it, poorfags!

>>61938532
How does anyone even think that cheap glossy paint job on the 650 looks good.

>>61938505
>>61938532
>>61938557
>they start jerking eachother off when he posts one graph

kek

>>61938594
I'm just playing around, senpai. I'm on neither side ;)

>>61938594
>gets called out on bullshit
>9gag tier shitpost
Nice

Can you guys recommend phones that are extra crispy like mdrv6 but without that shitty ringing in the high end?

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>>61938588
It's a metallic finish. I like it, but I guess it might be a bit plain looking for some people

Any good cheap microphones? The XTY one suggested on Gentoo wiki has run out of stock and I can only find gay man headsets when I search on Ebay.

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>>61936311
Hey, >>61936726 back.
I can't tell if yours is the opposite orientation from mine by some devilry or not, but I've assumed that I'm just not seeing the bottom-right L soldering point because of the lighting. Hope all goes well for you!

>>61938985
NW-7000 USB

>>61939059
Quick addendum: I realize that I've placed G sloppily, centered and then on the opposite side from where it really is. As the picture I took shows, it's the opposite corner from red. Sorry about the lack of clarity there, although obviously there's only one solder point on that end anyway.

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Is there a full-sized headphone currently in production which measures better than this?

>>61937028
No, do not recommend those headphones ever

>>61939137
LCD-1s

>>61939196
>currently in production

>>61939137
>>61939196
>>61939211
Like clockwork!

>>61939211
>moving the goal post

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>>61937860
Look at this face. She's just begging to be bullied.

>>61939211
>He doesn't have the time and money to find the secret factory still producing them
Lmaoing at your life, poorfaggot.

>>61939137
no

>>61939137
Yes

HD800 or HD800S?

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>>61934688
Anyone here have experience with the MA900? Thinking of just getting one to see about the comfort, and since it's discontinued, it would be cool to have one. The problem is that the price has gone up to $260+ just for a used pair. Do they sound good enough to justify that price, outside of it being a collectors item? It's a hard sell considering the HD600/650 is only a bit more brand new

>>61939327
Ether Flow

>>61939240
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>61939403
>$1,799.99
>Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>get sucked into this hobby for a few weeks
>spend an unnecessary amount of money
>completely forget about headphones for a year and realize I wasted money on overpriced shit

Anyone else do this? It's easy to get sucked into this but once you're out this seems like the dumbest hobby in the world.

>>61939466
I only find that happens with my friends who don't listen to music or at least have narrow tastes
>friend listens to my headphones (he-400s)
>"wow these sound amazing"
>buys same headphones and amp
>has realization he doesn't listen to music outside of top 40 basic bitch stuff
>hates my music recommendations
>sells his setup on craigslist

Meanwhile
>friend and I have same music tastes (eclectic), have played in bands together
>buys really nice stereo and headphone setup
>uses it actively for years, has never considered selling any of it.

>>61939538
I'm afraid of hearing damage. If I spend more money on audio it'll be on speakers, not headphones or earphones.

>>61939565
more power to you, an actual stereo image is god tier compared to headphone image.

Although you could just watch your volume on headphones.

>>61937183
I would wait until you get a non defective pair before giving final impressions. planar magnetics have incredible bass and much lower distortion, they will probably crush the hd600s once you have everything sorted out.

>>61939466
>I wasted money on overpriced shit

What audiophool meme did you fall for?

>>61939713
Philips Fidelio X2

I love these headphones so I don't regret that purchase, but I can easily afford high-end headphones and have to restrain myself from wasting money. I don't really see how much better it can get...Also I've been reading a lot about hearing damage. Spoopy stuff.

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Is DSD and DXD a meme?

>>61939733
So you spent what, $250 total? Can't get your money's worth out of that?

>>61939779
Completely and utterly a meme. Although the advantages are real, whether they are audible or not is speculation.

Meanwhile mqa is a cancerous meme. A lossy format that just sounds louder and has built in DRM to prevent piracy.

>>61938588
Thats what I ask myself what I see almost all other headphones. Almost all of them are one big convoluted mess of failed design.

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>>61939059
>>61939083

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

Re. the soldering point, the left driver is just flipped around and I only have the soldering points you see in the image, here's a better pic. Am I missing a soldering point?

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Which one, bros?

>>61939919
Second one (bottom), dip at 5k is a little unsettling on the first

>>61939919
first one. Second one has some pretty bad bass roll-off and a treble nosedive.

>>61939919
first one

>>61939359
Comfort is unparalleled. Sound signature is warm/dark like an HD650. Soundstage is great. It's one of the most ideal candidates for equalization at any price but I wouldn't recommend it if you don't want to EQ unless you desire a warm/dark, HD650-like sound signature.

>>61939851
Fuck, ignore that post I just made/deleted, I just glanced at it again and yours is mirrored from mine after all. My brain is full of fuck. I can't even say it's standardized somehow because my right cup's solder point orientations are completely different from the left cup's. I'm going to do some googling.

>>61939919
Second one. First one seems to be a notreble nomids type of shitcan.

>>61939919
Second one. First has too much melanin.

>>61939919
#2 has god tier mids, #1 is chinkshit

>>61939919
Second one.

>>61939919
first one. No bass roll-off, flatter mids, no treble roll-off.

>>61939919
1. Better bass and mids and treble
2. Decent mids, no bass and no treble.
>people saying the 2nd can has better mids
>mfw /hpg/ thinks mids are 500-1000hz

>>61939919
graph one shows much better linearity from 20hz-20khz.

graph two shows no treble and no bass.

>>61939919
first one hands down. second one measures like absolute ass.

>>61940729
>graph one shows much better linearity from 20hz-20khz.
An actual flat FR means niggerbass and earrape.

Is there any good upgrade from a k712?
I'm mainly using my headphones for gaming and want the ultimate sound whoring devices.

>>61940762
so in other words, graph 2 is not a neutral headphone?

>>61940774
Modded HD 700 or HD 800

>>61940762
maybe if you have baby ears.

>>61940782
Graph 1 definitely isn't. It's definitely bassy. Treble rolls off too sharply at the higher end, and is too earrape at the lower end.
Graph 2 is closer to neutral, as the bass does look sorta sane. The treble is less of a mess, but still doesn't seem rolled off enough.

>>61939919
one is so much better. no contest.

>>61940811
I was looking at the hd 800 or beyerdynamic t1 or dt 1990.

How does the sennheiser warranty work for used headphones? I know they don't cover it, but what would they charge to repair used hd 800 ?

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>>61939919
One

>>61940839
>sane bass
>full -10db at 20hz
>-6 at 50hz
>-10db between 10khz-20khz
>-5db between 2khz-5khz
>neutral
>it's literally a veiled mid-bass cannon with no sub bass and no treble.

you're a fool if you think graph 2 is more neutral

>>61940902
Give him a break he probably fell for the Sennheiser meme and that's all he's used to

>>61940902
Bass at 30Hz is about as high as 5KHz. It's excellent bass extension, if this is a open headphone.

>>61940940
>headphone has recessed upper mids before rolling off completely
>"it's at the same level as 30hz that means good bass!"

top kek.

>>61940940
>excellent bass extension
>drops like a hot rock at 100hz

>>61941003
Anymore than that and it's niggerbass.

>>61940854
You most likely not get a warranty with used. If they get fucked, they're fucked. T1's are very detailed but bright as hell. 1990's a weird upgrade from DT880/990 if you like bright/V-shaped.

>>61940902
The 100-200 Hz hump is the biggest problem. Bass loses 5-6 dB at 30 Hz, mid range is around -4 dB, treble is mild and rolled off but holds its ground until 9 kHz.
The first graph has basically perflectly flat bass, the dip at 300 Hz isn't ideal but it picks back up which should not make it sound as muddy. Not a fan of how the treble dips down after 4 kHz, though. That's like an 8 dB dip.
Neither are perfect, but I'd go for the first one and maybe fix the treble a little with EQ.

>>61941046
Which one has the best imaging and soundstage. I want to be able to distinguish where the gun shots are coming from in my games.

My akg k712s are decent at it, but they have failed me a couple times.

>>61941027
>haha I said niggerbass
>that proves my point!

no it doesn't. The bass in graph one isn't bloated, it's neutral. The mids are also more neutral, from 2khz-5khz it's flatter. the treble roll-off is also more gradual and not as extreme as in graph 2. It doesn't matter how many times you say niggerbass, there's no bloat. It's flatter than graph 1 and presents no roll-off.

Graph 2 isn't even mid-centric. It's midbass centric. With no sub-bass. The headphone in graph 2 is complete trash.

>>61940854 >>61941046
>hd800
>repair
If it gets fucked, just unfuck it yourself.
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-800

>>61941082
Excuse me, flatter than graph 2.

if drivers are not matched properly, is it just a volume issue that can be fixed with skewing the channel balance digitally? My concern is if it's not just volume and if drivers may not have the same relativel frequency ranges.

>>61941082
The second graph is clearly poorly sealed, and debunked.

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>HD600 shitposting is now proxied by two graphs

>>61936870
>hey'd be compared to MDR7506's
why'd you bother with a sidegrade at this budget range

>>61939919
second one obviously

>>61939919
first one is much better.

>>61941142
Run a sine sweep. If the image sweeps to the left and to the right you have FR differences between channels. Channel imbalance shouldn't be tolerated for expensive headphones but you can use EQ to correct it same as you can with other FR issues, although its a bit trickier.

>>61941232
Ahh, yes! The poorly sealed excuse! But who knows? They may not even be Sennheisers ;)

>>61939919
#1 is number one!

>>61941279
>most people have voted for graph 1
>a good chunk of these people are hd600 owners or sennheiser shills

kek.

>>61939919
What am I looking at?

>>61941991
Two (2) frequency response graphs of two (2) unknown headphones

>>61941782
It was a joke, ffs.

>>61939919
2

Are electrostatic headphones next after owning Hd800 for years? Will I need specific amps or is my stx essence card good enough?

>>61942022
Don't worry, anon! Mine was too; maybe just a bit poorly done

>>61942044
Google it. Also make sure you mean electrostatic and not planarmagnetic.

>>61942066
Why would I confuse electrostatic with planar. There's huge difference in quality. It's like confusing a hamburger with a steak.

>>61942086
So you do know how to google?

>>61942005
I get the first one but the second graph there's is like 4 different lines

>>61942106
Do you?

>>61942128
No. I get most of my information regarding technology and especially headphones from a board of trolls and dissonant thinkers like this one.

>>61942159
Well shit me too, why would I be asking here?

>>61942112
That is distortion and shit. You can ignore that

>>61942210
But the primary indicator of excellent sound quality is higher total harmonic distortion.

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>>61942257

>>61942296
More THD is better, silly

>>61942296
You wouldn't understand

>>61942315
It goes great with my drone music mix

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>>61942345

>>61942524
kek

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Does it not seem excessive that just one pair of foam tips is almost US$5? Am I just too frugal?

this seems crazy. Are these more reusable than I imagine? When I have to use foam earplugs to sleep or use power tools, I only use them 1 - 3 times before I throw them out especially if they're too porous to properly clean. Is it different with IEM tips?

maybe i should just stick with silicone tips?

>>61942642
absolutely different. Those will last a few months at least per set, maybe more. They aren't too porous, the memory foam is fairly solid but soft. They also have a patent on their formula. It works really well, the seal is always perfect.

>>61942642
In addition to what the other anon said, here's the company's statement.
http://www.complyfoam.com/faq/
>Typically, average use is about 2-4 months per pair of tips.

>>61939919
Top

I'm rma'ing my akg 7xx's because the right can started hissing randomly during certain sounds or w/e
anyways, im getting $200 back for them
Currently looking at DT990's 250 ohms, but i've heard mixed reviews on them, saying the treble is terrible or something, but i've heard reviews saying they're amazing if you have a proper dac/amp combo

>Budget
200.00 (usd)
can be less, looking for a pair between 150-230

>Location
US

>Source
PC/amp

>Type of headphone
over ear

>Open or closed
Open, already have a closed pair

>Comfort level
comfy AF, really liked my akg 7xx's, disliked how weak the clamp force was, or rather lack of a clamp force

Help me out /g/, also if you recommend a pair let me know what your sound set up is like and if you like it/think its necessary for said phones

many thanks

>>61939137
Eikon

>>61942854
DT880 Pro

>>61939919
Top one, also, yeah, most of us know what headphones are those.

>>61942854
this >>61942923, all the pros of the 990, none of the cons.

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>>61942924
Describe the headphones, anon. No answers pls

What headphones have the fastest bass?

>>61942923
>>61942967

I saw these as well, but I just wasn't sure what "semi-open" means for headphones. Like is the soundstage terrible? is it not affected?

Either way I'll take another look at these again, any dacs/amps you guys recommend?

>>61942973
"Nazi" stuff and chink stuff.

>>61943013
>is the soundstage terrible?
not at all, semi-open means somewhere in between open and closed, but there's no rule about how much closer to open or closed it must be, in the DT880 case is pretty much open.

>>61943061

thanks anon, just trying to avoid closed, since i'm currently using my closed set due to not having an open set, and man, I want open again

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>>61943023
Maybe, who knows? Did the chinks participate in D-Day? ;)

>>61939919

Clearly, the second.

>>61939919
Top. I know that's a planar, anon. How can dynamiclets even compete?

Does it matter what device you listen on?
Like does it matter if you're headphones are connected to an mp3 player or an ipod touch or a laptop.

>>61943772
Ideally, you want to connect it to a source with very high THD to get the most out of your headphones. This means the 1990 netbook you snatched off a dead homeless dude.

>>61943772
>Does it matter
Yes
>>61943834
Also this

>>61943834
You're retarded.
>>61943772
Some devices will sound worse because of either insufficient power or a worse DAC.

>>61943772
Yes, because internal DAC quality varies and amp quality and power varies. An ipod can't push voltage to drive a higher-impedance set of phones while a laptop or desktop might. Obviously if you're using a separate DAC/amp the source is less important.

>>61943852
>his headphones have below 1% THD
>falling for the low THD meme
Everyone laugh at this pleb.

>>61943852
>You're retarded
Did you need a :^) or /s with that?

>>61943867
None of that shit, silly goose.
>>61943865
>Why does my bass distort?

>>61943902
Sorry senpai

>>61943902
>implying THD measures distortion
THD stands for transfer head dimension, and is actually a measure of soundstage. You've been lied to, cuccboi.

>>61943917
>Total Harmonic Distortion

>>61943933
WRONG

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>>61943933

>>61942854
Looks like a HD579 recommendation.

Klipsch R6 inear?
Any good?

>Budget
about $150
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfort is important.

Modular cable is a must.

>>61944629
nouns dynamic dt770pro

>>61944757
oh ffs I hate touch keyboards
beyerdynamic!

>>61944629
HD569

>>61944757
>>61944808
thanks

Any opinions on the TMA-2?

https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/over_ear_headphones/quietcomfort-35-wireless.html
anything better than this for that price range

>Budget
$300 or under
>Location
US
>Source
Cellphone and tablet, will get a amp later on
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
duhhh needs to be nice style and comfy
>Sound signature
Dubstep, electronic and rap
>Past headphones
Skull candies

>>61945522
Custom Studio

>>61945087
You're paying for modularity. It's shit. If you need a good on ear, HD 25.

>>61937058
tripfag never even owned the 600, so its hard to take his advice seriously when he only looks at graphs.

>Budget
120~ queenbucks
>Location
UK
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy is a requirement
>Sound signature
neutral preferably, don't mind if it isn't.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B

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What are you listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw

>>61946409
AT mx40

>>61946329
>owning a pair of headphones he's heard before and didn't like

sounds a bit masochist to me anon. don't most people who shill the hd600s not own them?

>>61946741
It's hard to tell, since you could also claim most people who shy the 600 don't own them as well.

>>61946427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34JplgQmgZY
Though a flac version

>>61946889
>flac
Why?

>>61946899
Because it was available and it's better than a youtube version

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>>61946889
That's pretty good.
What EQ are you using?

>>61945522
MSR7
Oppo PM-3

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>>61947114
Been experimenting with this but wasapi doesn't allow EQ with equalizer APO and haven't been bothered to make an EQ for foobar

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>>61947525
a VST equalizer on foobar like this one will work through WASAPI

When you're going out do you prefer IEMs or full sized cups?

>>61948327
I don't go out

>>61948384
why headphones instead of speakers then?

>>61948424
some people have mercy for their neighbours

>>61948424
I don't live alone and also have neighbors. Open-back headphones are best for me

>>61948327
bump for people who don't spend their entire life in a basement

>>61948327
>>61948596
IEMs because they get good isolation, don't cost a fortune for quality sound, and I'm not going to be wearing them for very long anyway.

Anyone seen a comparison between 598 and 579/599?

Plenty of people saying 579>599 but 598SR are close to 50% off at the moment and I've not seen anything to suggest the new line is actually any better

>Budget
80 - 100 Eur, not flexible

>Location
Italy

>Source
PC and cellphone

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
comfy at least at a medium level

>Sound signature
neutral

>Past headphones
shitty earphones

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I have a free pair of beats solo 3 coming in the mail
What can I expect? Is the mic good enough for casual streaming?

>>61948809
You'll find some if you look for HD599. The HD579 is newer, so it has less reviews.

>Budget
$$$$$$

>Location
Straya

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full sized, Active noise cancelling (either no battery or both powered and battery)

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Noise cancelling is more important

>Sound signature
IDC, I just need them for audiobooks and lectures in a loud environment.

>Past headphones
$7 rejects from Harvey Norman dumpster

>>61949176
I'm having difficulty finding 598/599 comparisons that don't just call 599 an 'updated version' of the 598. Reviewers don't seem to want to say whether or not they're actually improved in any way, which suggests to me they're not.
Really just asking here in the hope that someone knows of a side-by-side comparison write up or video.

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>>61949125
Ugh, how can anyone stand fucking another man. That's disgusting.

>>61949388
Then look at FR plots.
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-598.php
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-599.php
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-579.php
Bonus for reference:
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-600.php

>>61949509
I did, just trying not to base a purchase decision on muhh graffs. Thanks though

>>61949537
Well, then there's the reviews. Look for HD599 because that's been around longer. As for HD579, as FR shows, it's almost the same. It is way cheaper and the few reviewers that compare both do say 579 sounds better, for some reason.
I only have 598 and 600, but going by these plots I can tell you the treble on the 599/579 is better because it's louder (HD598's is too rolled off, I can't hear sounds that are there on HD600) and because the shape ressembles HD600, which treble is very good, rather than HD598, which is flawed/odd on the treble.

Are the HD600s a good upgrade from HD280 pros?

What do you guys think of all the massdrop xx headphones? Better than normal ones? Worse? Should I wait for some good headphones to land on massdrop?

>>61949660
Yes. A massive one.

new thread

>>61949708

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>>61949708

>>61949708