God, Robots, and AI

>>61930847
You have provided no sources to any of your claims. Why should I take anything you say as true?

Hi, Terry

>>61930847
The speed of thought is much, much slower than that of light.

>>61930847
I know for a fact this claim is false for one simple reason: the human eye does not have infinite resolution. It's on par with a 576 megapixels.

http://www.clarkvision.com/articles/eye-resolution.html

>>61930847
>Information travels to, and is processed by the human brain at the speed of the light.
You don't have the SLIGHTEST idea of how brains work, do you?

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>>61930847
>Implying 'robot's don't believe in god.

>>61930847
>Information travels to, and is processed by the human brain at the speed of the light
LOL
>human optics percieve an infinite resolution
false, its arroun 600 megapixels
>a computer would have to be purely analog to percieve detail as well as a human
not true, our brain uses symplification and drops unnecessary information all the time, thats why we dont have perfect memories, because our "storage" is simplistic and neural signals in the brain are actually digital (in the sense that they can be reduced to 1's and 0's, a neuron either fires or it doesnt)
>Lastly, computers cannot achieve true abstraction. We use abstraction as a buzzword in programming, but true abstraction is completely free and unstructured.
Animal behaviour is automatic, human behaviour is also a computer program, albeit analog in essence, you seem to forget that the approach to the quality of a computer is effectivity, how efficient the computer is at solving tasks, not how intrincate or beautiful the functioning is

> God is the greatest programmer of all time and you will never beat him
> Learn to program in DNA
True, DNA is infinitely more powerful than semconductor transistors, it outputs no heat, work in huge blocks (a.k.a cores), doesnt need a cache since enzimes themselves are able to reintegrate DNA strands after being processed, its an inherently digital process far more scalable and pararelizable than sylicon, problem is that its not as reliable, there are misshapens all the time when dna gets duplicated, you would need to have a form of making DNA more reliable before it being apt for computation, but if what you suggest is that DNA has inherently more potential than semiconductors and that given infinite time a purely biological optimization process would yield better payoffs than the most powerful processors in the universe, then yeah I agree

Your arguments are trash tho

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>>61930847
Why are these threads even allowed on /g/?

>>61931048
>neural signals in the brain are actually digital
You're an idiot.

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>>61931062
low activity: neuron on standby
peaks: neuron shoots

the neural network is a digital network, its simply doesnt rely on information processed and decoded inside a neuron, it cares about if it continues the strand or it doesnt.

It can be reduced to a series of logic gates with the caveat that they are prone to error unlike semicondutor "digitalness"

Perhaps go read a little?

>>61931062
>>61931081
cont.

https://youtu.be/opqIa5Jiwuw?t=3m53s

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>>61931081
>digital

>>61931118
literally what i am saying, the connectome model is a digital model

>>61931137
But what's going on at the noise floor?

>>61931081
>>61931100
That's cute, but no. Even the article you ripped that image from said that neuroscientists argue over this shit constantly haven't been able to prove it either way.

>>61931147
magnetism, neuron's bodily functions, static charge and possible quantum effects

>>61931165
no retard, what they are discussing is if the neuron signals themselves are are digital or analog (as in its a defined charge that they ouput or where of the peaks come from), here we are talking about the neural network itself, which is epifenomaically digital and thus can de replicated by digital models, such as the connectome

We are 100% sure nowadays that the neurons themselves dont store or process information in any inherently analog way such as neurons storing enzimes and lipids on their tails or having case sensitive neuroreceptors built in, neurons work on networks, which can be based off strands which make them digital, or quantum effects which make them qdigital

>>61930847
>God
There is no such thing as a "God".

>walk 20 feet away from your computer monitor
>you can no longer read the text on the screen

nice infinite resolution

>>61931289
observe real life object under microscope.

no pixels. infinite resolution.

>>61931289
you are conflating clarity with resolution.

>>61931400
that's not changing the resolution of your eyes, retard

>>61931437
that's because eyes don't have a resolution. eyes perceive the actual real world, which has an infinite resolution.

>>61931465
Eyes perceive it quite badly though, upside and only a tiny fraction of your actual "vision". What you "see" is the model your brain has developed of the world fed by the snippets of information it gets from the sensory organs. You won't notice "pixels" (more generally, limitations of the eye) for the same reason you don't notice all the noise in your eye or blind spots until you "trick" yourself.

>>61930950
U cant measure the speed of thought, nimbus

>>61931737
You can't measure the speed of thought, but it cannot be faster than the speed of light in axons, or in dendrites, or even synapse throughput.

>>61930847
Yeah go post this on /sci/ and get wrecked

You're all so delusional, AI will not beat humans at any point because we can't even comprehend how we proceed thoughts.

>>61934117
you say our brains process things at the speed of light yet no matter can move at the speed of light or else it will nuke everything in the nearby area

Throw a baseball at even 90% the speed of light you wouldnt have a town anymore

Throw a grape at 90% the speed o light the same would happen but worse as it would act like a hydrogen bomb from the water inside of it

If electrical signals moved through our brain at the speed of light then humans would have to be gods or extremophiles to survive that, of which we are neither.