I'll give you exactly ten seconds to post legitimate valid

I'm allergic to magnets.

Because I can get a 4TB mech drive for the same price as a 500GB SSD... You're just wasting your time and money if you go SSD for main storage.

I'm gay

>>61926284
Boot time

>>61926326
Obviously OS would be on an SSD

>>61926326
Who cares about 20 extra seconds of boot time

>>61926310
we know

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>>61926244
CoW filesystems make them great again.
You get capacity, write serialization, and RAM caching. Puny NAND cannot compete when you can buy five 2TBs for the same price as a 1TB SSD.

I heard torrenting wears down a SSD faster. Just replaced the mechanical drive for a SSD to install the OS, gonna put the old drive in an external enclosure just for torrenting and data storage.

>>61926244
Because all flash memory inherently is volatile when left unpowered, and will literally leak electrons from its cells. Magnetic storage does not have this problem; you can power on old IDE drives and they'll still retain data. An SD card or SSD won't guarantee such data integrity. SSDs are only worthwhile where IO is need, such as a boot drive. Everything else is a consumerist meme, where HDDs last longer/per GB and guarantee data integrity when left unpowered unlike SSDs.

>>61926326
/Thread

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>>61926244
They don't make 10TB SSDs yet.

>>61926244
Because there's no reason to use SSDs for storing TV shows and Movies.

>>61926418
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3040208/data-storage/samsung-ships-the-worlds-highest-capacity-ssd-with-15tb-of-storage.html

>>61926418
ok
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/8/1/12342696/samsung-pm1633a-ssd-15tb-storage-drive-specs-price

>> not having 1TB bank of DDR4
>> not burning OS installation into ROM
>> not having custom fpga to interface as sata drive
>> not enjoying microsecond load times
stay poor SSD fags

>>61926418
>>61926441
>$400 HDD vs $10,000 SSD
Choices... Choices.

>>61926489
10TB HDDs isn't $400

It's $350 or so nowadays

>>61926489
Nobody said you should buy them, they said you can buy them.

>>61926244
I appreciate the craftsmanship. Mechanical hard drives are like beautiful, exquisitely crafted clockwork watches.

>>61926418
god, i cant wait to pay $1000 for a hard drive

>>61926284
dont have to worry about boot times if you never turn off your computer.

>>61926535
See >>61926500

>>61926524
go back to /lgbt/

>>61926244
SSDs shit themselves if they're turned off for more than 2 weeks in a row

>>61926433
>10k dollars for a 15Tb SSD
How many 2Tb HDDs can you buy with 10k again?

>>61926244
They are bad for encryption.

>>61926284
programs open faster
web pages load faster
boot time
overall system sped

>>61926590
Stop being poor. I have a 4TB SSD, and it's all I need. Fast. Holds all my gaymes

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>tfw I fell for /g/'s memes
>Installed Gentoo
>2TB SSD
>Three 8TB HDDs using RAID 5
>64GB dual channel DDR4 RAM
>Intel processor (i7-7700K), and three GTX 1080's for five monitors
>Have been using this for six months and have filled less than 2GB of storage
>Have never used more than 5% of my RAM at a time

>>61926590
>>61926507

>>61926616
You do realize you can use more than one drive, right?

>>61926625
No matter how much I spend on an SSD I will get more storage by spending the same amount on an HDD.

>>61926636
Do you use more than 4TB? HDDs are cheaper. That's it. They're for poorfags or servers.

>>61926244

Because it serves it's function just the same and my time is more valuable than going out of my way to shave a second or two off boot time.

>>61926244
SSDs have poor legacy OS support

>>61926654
>Do you use more than 4TB?
Certainly, I'm getting another 4TB HDD soon. Running out of space with my current 7.5TB setup.

>>61926244
Well, because I'm poor, I use two eight years old wd black 1tb drives that was in home pc's before I got them.

>>61926692
For what? Any important content I've downloaded is under 500GB. Are you downloading linux isos? I have all my linux isos on a home media server. Yea, I use HDDs for it. It's just a linux iso server

>>61926941
TV shows and movies.

>>61926244
I have a 32TB RAID5 that cost me $800 vs $5,000 if it was SSDs

>>61926244
Electron leaking something or other

>>61926984
give it back, jamal.
you have to pay for the movies

>>61927033
I do when I see one I like for a good price. Not going to waste money on movies when I can spend it on HDDs and have even more movies.

>>61926244
SSD for OS and primary programs. 2-4TB mechanical drive for storage.

>>61926984
linux isos means movies. It's used on other sites so mods cant ban you for talking about pirating

>>61927081
Well then I am downloading Linux ISOs, and TV shows.

>>61926683
What legacy OS are you using?

>>61927210
jeffOS

>>61927225
Oh, hi Jeff

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>>61926244
Because I want a drive that will work without shitting itself if I write on it a lot.

>>61926326
Storage

>>61926326
he said storage

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>>61926535
>he hasnt spent 1000 for a 35mb hdd

>>61926633
It's about the potential, not the execution.

I too have extra power for things like firefox, twitter and 4chain. Those ylyl threads can be very gpu intensive.

>>61926633
>>Have been using this for six months and have filled less than 2GB of storage
>>/g/ptg/

Because I'm not some retard that thinks it has to be one or the other. My OS and applications are on SSDs because they can benefit from the increased performance offered by them, my long term storage is on HDDs because it's drastically cheaper per gigabyte and more reliable.

I get boot times under 10 seconds with bloated Windows 10 on a hard drive.
Now it's your turn to give me a reason for using an SSD.

>>61926633
>download entire booru
your welcome

>>61928504
Keke

>>61929162
Which one? Dan? Gel? Fluffy?

>>61929235
you have 24tb nigger download everything

I'm poor

>>61926326
jokes on you I never turn off my computer

>>61926244
So if you actually do this to the hard drive (along with preliminary software wipe), would even the FBI or CIA be able to recover any meaningful information from the drive?

>>61929268
Depends how many pieces you pick up and discard in different random locations.

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I have an SSD for the OS and my most common programs, and two spinning rust drives (one for programs I don't use very much and one for all my files)

>he doesn't use a 50TB ssd

http://www.storagereview.com/viking_ships_its_50tb_ssd

>>61926244
You can never fully erase a ssd. Never. You can erase a hdd. Physically destroy it and erase it. But never a ssd

>>61930212
Are you implying you can't physically destroy an SSD?

>>61930244
By the time you can destroy each individual chip I can eat and digest a disk from an hdd

>>61930300
Wouldn't spending a few minutes reducing the flash chips to dust with a hammer be more than sufficient?

>>61926571
interesting. i went abroad, had my desktop delivered 7 months later and somehow nothing was wrong with it. care to explain?

>>61930366
Anon thinks that specs from ancient SSDs apply to modern ones.

>>61926244
>hobo
Um, what?

>SSDs to replace my hhds would cost ~$4000, about double the price of all my recent computer hardware

>Wouldnt be any faster as it'd still be bottlenecked by ethernet

Because I have about 50 mechanical drives either in cabinets or desks or boxes that are each about a TB in size. Why buy more?

>>61926244
Because I'm using an old, withering laptop. I'll get one when I upgrade to an Elitebook within a few months, as it only costs like 10 bucks more to go from a 320 GB HDD to a 320 GB SSD.

I'm poor too expensive

>>61930322
If I'm guessing right, the dude prefers to use an industrial blender to reduce it to dust and eat it, so that he can have a smug, autistic grin when the cops bust down his door for whatever reason.

Alternatively you could get a netflix/crunchyroll subscription and stop hoarding your animu

>>61930487
>streaming
>>>/out/

>>61926244
neet here.
enjoy your flipped long term storage device.

>>61930441
>elitebook
get a chinkpad brah.

>>61930506
>get a chinkpad brah.
I'm good. I've been using this Sony Vaio since 2010. Elitebook will serve me just fine when I pull the trigger. i5, 8GB of RAM, and 320 GB on SSD for 187.

>>61926244

8 TB storage for $160

or

$2000

I was not born into the Trump crime family, so fuck (you)

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>ITT people who don't understand tiered storage

>>61926244
Ditched spindles completely? Because the 560tb of archive storage I have doesn't need to be especially fast, but does need better random i/o than a tape drive.

Front line storage is 32tb in spindle and 4tb in SSD.

Got some Phison chinkbrand M2 500 gigs SSD built into my craptop, absolutely based. I'll keep using my 2TB HDD on my server, however.

>>61926244
I'm both poor and a hobo

>>61926375
>not getting the best of ssds and hdds with bcache
Bcachefs is the future, it's also cow which is dank

>>61931116
>And one dumb animeposter

>>61926244
OS and programs on SSD, storage on HDD because: if SSD dies, its gone. Cant restore anythng.

>>61927033
Fuck off moralfag

>>61926524
oh sure... THAT's why. not because you're poor or anything

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>he doesn't use diskettes
Wow I thought/g/ liked good technology.

>>61926244
because they have a known write limit.

>>61926284
>wasting your "time and money"
Lmao excellent bait

>>61926244

SSDs can corrupt easier

>>61926244
>write super important data
>take it out for 1 month
>plug it in
>3.98TB free from 3.98TB
>consider suicide

Ssd's suck. Don't be a faggot and use zip disks like everyone else

>>61933906
>consider suicide
consider ZFS next time.

>>61926244
Because right now mechanical drives are cheaper than SSD's

>>61926326
Larger storage capacity is far more valuable than faster boot times.

>>61926244
RAID

>>61926244
They're much easier to completely encrypt
TRIM on SSDs is unsafe

>>61926244
SSD are not for storage. Mechanical drives are.

>>61926244
>Price per GB
>TB upon TB of storage
>Can last longer than an SSD depending on how often you're writing information.
>Arguably can be more reliable in the long run.
>Easier to retrieve data from due to a non-head-crash failure.

My reasons anyways.

>>61926244
read disturb

I'll consider it when I don't have to pay as much as for the rest of my system to replace HDDs with SSDs that have similar capacity.

''SSD speeding up practically everything that you do on a PC'' for me was one of the rare cases when I was NOT fucking meme'd
it's like swithing from black&white to colour television

>>61926244
>not using tapes for storage
get a load of this poorfag.

Is it true that data can never truly be wiped from SSDs?

Just put os and games and vms and shit on your ssds and mass storage have hdds. You dont need to only have one type of hard drive

You should use both. SSD for things you access often, mech drive for stuff to archive.

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>>61936457
Data can only be erased by completely destroying whatever it's stored on, same with all storage (yes, including HDDs).

>>61926590
At the rate I buy them at, about 285 of them. Currently have 16x2TB in my rack and paid something like $560 for them. The same in SSDs would be like $20k

>>61936457
It's difficult to intentionally erase it without writing over the entire drive (tools like shred will not reliably work on an SSD)

>>61936590
Not if you use encryption

>>61936790
I'm sure everyone who used DES-56 thought so too. It's just a matter of time before any encryption is cracked, it's not a permanent solution.