ITT: Retarded Tech

>>61925888
> I CAN'T AFFORD THESE HIGH-END APPLE PHONES, LAPTOPS AND IMACS
> I'VE NEVER EVEN TRIED ONE AT THE STORE LET ALONE USED ONE YET I'M MAD AT THEM
> I'M SEVERELY DEPRESSED AND MAD AT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS
> I'M OUT OF MY AUTISM PILLS TODAY BECAUSE MY ANXIETIES AND MENTAL ILLNESS ARE PREVENTING ME FROM LEAVING MY MOM'S BASEMENT
> I'M NOW SHIFTING ALL THE HATE TOWARDS THINGS I CANNOT HAVE
> I BETTER MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ON AUTISM /g/ENERAL FORUM ABOUT IT SO I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE MY LIFE IS
> I KEEP ON POSTING BULLSHIT MEMES BECAUSE IT'S ALL I CAN DO. JUST LOOK AT THE ARCHIVE AND MD5 OF MY POSTS TO SEE THE LEVEL OF MY ILLNESS
> PS: SOMEONE PLS KILL ME BECAUSE I'M TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO DO IT MYSELF
> PPS: PLEASE! MY FAMILY IS SICK OF ME AND WANTS ME GONE. JUST HELP ME END IT ALL
the post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OacVy8_nJi0

>>61926046
Objectively wrong, you angry Android cuck. Go use your obsolete at launch Fitbit blaze.

>>61925981
Ok but how do you justify putting the charging port on the bottom of a wireless mouse though?
Or having to put your Apple(TM) Pencil(TM) in a position where it is extremely vulnerable to breaking just so you can charge it, when they could have used a technology that doesn't require a powered stylus in the first place?

>>61926097
The mouse has a 2 month charge that takes only 2 hours to charge
or if you want a 2 minute charge lasts 9 hours

>>61926170
And that makes this a sane design choice?

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Solar: retarded
Along a freeway: retarded
Spending public money to install it around cloudy Portland: maximum retardation

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>>61926179
OY VEY you get still 70% of energy through the clouds

>>61926140
so glad these were banned at the theme park I worked at, telling guests they had to put them away or leave the park felt great. same with vapes.

>>61926212
That's almost the inverse of the actual number.
You get about 10 to 25% of the rated output on cloudy days.

>>61926250
its your word against mine, the n word

>>61926170
Still retarded. I can't keep it plugged in if the port's on the bottom.

>>61926352
Why would you keep a wireless mouse plugged in?

>>61926367
So it doesn't die.

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>>61926097
you don't have to plug the apple pencil into the iPad to charge it

>>61925981
You say the person's complaining, but as a person who's actually used on for a while, the ergonomics of the suck REALLY bad.
A $10 logitech mouse is easily more comfortable to use than that, but the fact the magic mouse 2 is $80 makes it really retarded tech for what it is. I ended up getting my own m720 for half the price. It's infinitely more usable than the magic mouse.
Looks good in pictures, terrible in practice.

>>61926406
Then wouldn't you just buy a regular USB mouse then? Do you know how retarded you sound right now?

>>61926464
Show me the corded version of that mouse. You can't, because there isn't one.

>>61926421

wow look i found another dongle

that one looks super easy to loose

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>>61926179
>Solar: retarded
Not for Atacama Desert. I would fill the entire desert with these beauties

>>61926487
it comes with the pencil when you buy it and losing things is kinda for children

is a little responsibility too much for you?

>>61926487
>loose
kys literally

>>61926492
Great for a desert, not so much for a forest.

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>>61926487
>>61926508
don't do it anon he's not worth it.

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>>61926492
>I would fill the entire desert with these beauties
And a slightly larger capacity of natural gas power plants to make up the peak power demand.

Solar power could be free, and it would still be to expensive due to the cost of energy storage. Let me expand on that. To meet the grid demand it would be cheaper to not even include free (installed not operated) solar.
Watch a video on the problems of solar on the grid and how nuclear is the only solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zD0m_ci-oo

>>61926472
*autistic screeching*

>>61926547
ebin

>>61926179
Wow, that is fucking nothing.

>>61926109
Why does the lightning to lightning connector even exist?

>>61926109
frightening

>>61926752
That's not Lightning, I believe it's USB C Thunderbolt to miniDP Thunderbolt.

>>61926764
Fair enough, I see that the male ends are a bit different, while I was browsing the rest of the thread I found the use for a short connector tho, carry it in your ipad bag to charge the pencil
>>61926421

>>61926764
Looks more like a USB-C to miniUSB plugged into a miniUSB to Ethernet adaptor.

>>61926179
Solar is the only sensible source of all the renewables that don't need a huge as fuck dam.

The panels last 20 years now, turbines shit the bed in 3.

>>61926829
No, that's certainly Thunderbolt. Look at the logos.

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Has anyone ever used NiZn batteries? Their whole marketing point was a voltage gimmick over NiMH. They need a special charger and their voltage was high enough to destroy anything that needed more than one AA in series.

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Cable elevators

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>>61926179
Sorry, but i sadly have to make the things you pointed smart in comparison.

>>61925981
iProducts are for welfare queens I would know because every single mexican and black had them at my shit poor high school

>>61926876
>MagSafe
>tabs to wrap cable
>works as a wallwart or as a powerbrick
Yeah, totally retarded.

>>61926845
Thunderbolt 3 uses USB-C form factor, the adapter is for the older connector.

>>61926886
Flimsy cable.

>>61926898
Which is what I said. >>61926764

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>>61925888

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>>61926140
Combine a selfie stick that doesn't have the remote shutter with a mini-tripod and you get a nice slim profile setup for 360 cameras that gets good height and stays largely out of the picture.

>>61926904
Are you using the thing as a fucking noose? How rigid do you want?

>>61926917
Yes, emojis are probably one of the most retarded techs we came up with.

>>61926840
>Solar is the only sensible source of all the renewables that don't need a huge as fuck dam.
How do you power anything when it's not daytime and sunny?

>turbines shit the bed in 3
Gas turbines will last 20 years before a major overhaul. Water turbines can hit 60 years. Steam turbines will last 40 so long as you have good water treatment and are not trying to run ultra super critical steam.

>>61926421
Why the fuck you need to charge a styllus? Really it's not just a capacitive shit?

>>61926932
My coworkers have to replace these frequently at work.

Google "flimsy cable" and nearly all of the results on the front page are complaints about shitty Apple products.

>>61926840
>solar
>sensible
>in nw oregon
OK m8, I think the wind farms in the Columbia River gorge that can run 24/7 are much more sensible though.

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>>61926179
>Solar: Retarded
t. Exxon shill

You're probably one of those republican cuckolds that hate solar energy because it's free "welfare energy".
I'll have you know that this is 100% Jesus energy, because it comes straight from the heavens. Gods holy light piped straight into your electrical sockets.

Hmmm, do I want energy from compressed dead giraffes and 3 gorillion year old shitposts, or from the LORD's giant nuclear fusion reactor...... Really makes me think anon......

>>61926973
The lamps are on when the solar panels are off.

>>61925981
>Can't afford
That meme is so fucking old, any piss poor asshole can get an iPhone.

>>61926954
Stylus hooks up trough bluetooth to give pressure data. Some stylus on proper drawing tablets can draw energy trough the screen to do there shit.

>>61926987
>what are batteries

>>61926492
Heh, wandering the wasteland almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

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>>61926973
>because it's free "welfare energy".
Yeah.

>>61927016
>>what are batteries
Very expensive. Like $0.60 to $1.20 / kWh expensive.

>>61927016
>what are batteries
Something we don't actually can do very well yet, generally making things that are horribly harmful for the environment and not very efficient.

>>61926967
Apple supposedly claims their cables break constantly because they use more environmentally friendly materials in the insulation such as soy product. My take is that the cables are made to "feel" nice when new at the cost of rapid deterioration, much like everything they make.

>>61926967
Your coworkers are retarded. I've had the same charger for about 5 years and there's nothing wrong with it.

>>61926292
thread

>>61927184
>so new he can't even /thread a post

>>61927054
>>61927060
For large scale its still an issue, but for single homes a battery bank with recyclable lead acid batteries is still pretty cheap if your already spending $10-15k on a solar system

>>61926173
>>61926352
It's still a retarded design choice
but what's 2 minutes compared to batteries or having to deal with a bluetooth adaptor
even NEETs have to go to the bathroom or sleep at some point, so plug it in then

>>61927190
fuck you faggot retard i intentionally chose to omit the slash

>>61927195
If you want to put banks of batteries on every home, you're back to a large scale problem.

>>61927141
Exceptions don't prove the rule. You're just a brainwashed Macfag who refuse admit that Apple products have any flaws.

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>>61927035
t. Assblasted coal miner

How does it feel to turn away from God's light and go underground to the realm of Satan to mine ancient jew turds for minimum wage???
You do not know the LORD's power, the harmful ultraviolet rays from his heavenly gaze will burn the pale skin away from your emaciated body. To mine coal is to participate in the rape of gods green earth, and he will send you to eternal hellfire for your sins.

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>>61926071
How shit are these actually?
I'm getting one for free with my student discounted mac air

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Solar is a huge fucking disaster though.
Without subsidies, it wouldn't exist.
I worked for a contractor in Texas installing panels.
Few things to note
1. The panels were stupid cheap, I assume they chose the lowest end model. These panels failed all the time.
2. The mechanisms that allowed the panels to follow the sun, never worked right. They'd break all together and stab other pannels with debree. When they weren't broken, they won't properly follow the sun.

Funny ish story
They wanted me to reset a HUGE ass transformer.
I called up a buddy and asked what the proper way to reset it was.
Found out what to do and what P.P.E. to wear.
I asked if they had the proper gear, 30min later they handed me a 20ft long stick.
>Fuckno.jpg
Tell em to fuck off

The proper P.P.E is a heat suit like what you use next to a hot furnace or say a volcano.
Apparently the arc flashes are like super heated plasma that can easily kill you.

Fuck those people

>>61926472
Yeah, there's the regular Apple USB mouse still available. It was discontinued in June this year but of course there's still plenty of stock available on various sites. You're one dumb cunt aren't you?

>>61927195
It gets cheaper the more you scale it up. At a home sized battery that is about as expensive as it gets.

>>61927359
That's not a Magic mouse, you cockmongler.

>>61927383
>hurr show me corded version of mouse that was only ever wireless

Are you fucking mentally disabled? The fuck is your point?

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>>61927331
>solar is a huge disaster
>bought absolute cheapest panels possible

Cellphones are a disater!!!
I know this because i bought a cellphone made from human feces on Taobao.

>>61927411
>Are you fucking mentally disabled?
Nah
>The fuck is your point?
That it's a retarded design.

>>61927430
Its a low profile mouse with a touch-sensitive glass top that covers the whole top. If you manage to let it run flat after a month of not charging once, it receives a 9 hour battery life from a 120 second charge thanks to quick charging. Where is the drawback here, where is the compromise?

>>61925926
>Preferring catapults

ishygddt

>>61927506
Batteries always die at the worst time. Plus when it does die I have to wait two minutes to use it again.

>>61926212
Is that Chuck Norris?

>>61927267
I wanna milk thoes tiddays

>>61927574
I want her to ride my face while I play with them

>>61925888
Is that a meat thermometer?

>>61925999
They are good at what they do.

But they can't stand alone to support a powergrid.

>>61926883
it's true. visit an apple store.

>>61927618
>They are good at what they do.
Expensive, non dispatchable, low power density, eye sores, bird killers.

only thing i'll give macbooks is li-pol battery

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>>61927267
>fagbook

lmao

>>61926179
>muh progress

>>61927524
The only reason not to use catapults is if your a poorfag navy who can't afford to operate a real carrier.

>>61927703
I think you have the air confused with the pro there anon

>>61927770
Have fun attempting rapid deployment catacuck

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>>61927776
What's the difference when they both throttle to $300 Acer level performance?

>>61927828
The air has an ULV chip. It doesn't need to throttle
I mainly bought it for the 12 hour battery life and because it'll last

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>>61927850
>because it'll last
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

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>>61927872
Again, you're posting infographics of the pro anon.
AndI'm well aware of the thinkpads capabilities, I own 6 of them.

>>61927872
>ThinkPad doesn't have this problem
Of course not, there's no warranty to worry about voiding on a decade-old laptop

>>61927985
Well, there are decade-old thinkpads.

>>61928026
Exactly what I was talking about.

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*creeerk*

>>61927032
wat

>>61927850
This is basically the same as throttling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-low-voltage_processor
>Ultra-low-voltage processors are a class of microprocessor that are deliberately underclocked to use less power (typically at or under 17W) at the expense of performance.

>>61926522
Oh man, you're right. Guess we better just stop doing it altogether, anon.

>>61928106
Using less power on a machine not meant for power is not the same as using less power on a machine that is meant to deliver power.

My air runs linux perfectly, and can handle gnucash, libreoffice and the rest of the shit that I need while staying cool and giving me insane battery life.

>>61927262
You're managing to lose an argument to a climate change denier, I'm impressed.

>>61927805
If you unironically defend ramps you're either a britcuck, a rusnigger or a chink

>>61927543
>Batteries always die at the worst time.

Batteries die because YOU let them. You can't even leave it overnight or whatever once every 2 weeks? You're disabled.

>when it does die I have to wait two minutes to use it again

Oh no, better change the whole design of the product because someone may, after letting it run completely flat by not charging for a whole month, have to wait 120 seconds before he can use it for 9 hours again.

Neck yourself you retarded child.

>>61927421
You are forgetting one thing, all 5 major solar companies are doing the same thing.
They make extremely cheap solar farms that don't work, collect the cash, then ditch everything.

Try to actually have some knowledge before commenting.
You are at the peak of mount stupid

>>61925926
They are not that bad if you do not have very heavy aircraft to launch
But then again, if you do not have such aircraft then you should not invest in an aircraft carrier to begin with
>>61925903
I fucking hate this, it makes me angry. If it ever gets build it would only take one angry autist and a small bomb to fuck an entire line and kill hundreds

>>61928255
>Batteries die because YOU let them. You can't even leave it overnight or whatever once every 2 weeks?
Why would I? It lasts two months.
>Oh no, better change the whole design of the product
This shouldn't have been the product design in the first place. A proper one would have the lightning port on the front so I could use it wired or wirelessly.

>>61927184
Yes, this is (indeed) a thread
Thanks for pointing that out
Congratulations
Well done
I am proud of you
What could we have done without you?
Please, stay here for longer and never leave

>>61928283
You're all over the place. First you say batteries die at the worst time, then you imply charging every fortnight or before it runs out is dumb, then you complain that 2 minutes is too long to wait for a 9 hour charge. What the FUCK is going on in your head you utterly fucking mentally disabled troglodyte? What the fuck do you want? You keep contradicting yourself.

>>61928339
You're arguing with the hivemind m8

>>61928339
>First you say batteries die at the worst time
Because they do.
>then you imply charging every fortnight or before it runs out is dumb
Charging anything 4x more often than you have to is dumb.
>then you complain that 2 minutes is too long to wait for a 9 hour charge.
Because it should be able to be used while charging. There should be no wait whatsoever.
>What the FUCK is going on in your head
I'm pointing out the various flaws of the product in question.

>>61925999
>>61926179
Ahh yes Americans.

>>61926062
>Genuine anger

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>>61925957

>>61926860
never even heard of it.. interesting. googling meow.

>>61928258
[citation needed]

>>61927331

>this one thing happened to me
>therefore it happens to everyone everywhere every time

>>61925981
>I BETTER MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ON AUTISM /g/ENERAL FORUM
Oh shit there he is guys! Literally unironically (not even joking) every single person on /g/ is about to get BTFO!

>>61928259
It's going up in California. That sounds like a good reason for it to be built and for those people to die.

>>61927262
this is the worst non-argument I've seen in a while, well done.

>>61928478
>well known fact
>hurr durr you need to prove it


kys

>>61927663
They kill more people than nuclear. And they take up a lot of land (and sea ones are navigation hazard and even harder to maintain), and generate infrasound, and their lifetime is about 20 years

>>61927331
>Subsidies
Didn't Spain cut subsidies for renewables and instantly a few wind companies went tits up? Because they were built in some poor location for the reason of getting a bit of that """green""" slice of budget pie?

>>61928593
just give me a link or links proving that all 5 major solar companies set up cheap solar farms that don't work (your words), collect the cash, then ditch everything.

you made this absurd claim, not me.

>>61925888
Why did you plug the pen into the mouse? I don't think that's how it works.
>>61926071
They'd be good if they cost what they were worth.
>>61926292
They're not retarded, they're a dictators dream. They are for retards however.
>>61926917
Stay mad Intel cuck
>>61928060
Fuck these stupid things

>>61928718
It's just a straightforward way to show the retarded location of ports. Some wireless nice have port in the front, useable when charging. Surface's stylus goes along the edge.

>>61925981
So many (You)s for this pasta

>>61928593
(((well known fact)))

>>61925903
That's some byproduct of dementia.

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>>61928240
>>61928582
t. Actual Assblasted coal miners

>>61928718
>being this idiotic

>>61927262
Whats your Problem with god?
Literal autist. Fuck.

>>61925903
>>people with no knowledge of fluid dynamics ripping on the future

>>61928259
I mean, all it takes is a small bomb to kill hundreds of people in other forms of mass-transport, too.

>>61926886
doesnt have the tabs, powerbrick mode or the magnets anymore on the current MBP/MB

>>61928183
Yes, we really should.
Nuclear power is the cleanest practical answer.

>>61929451
I'm not talking about the USB C charger, I'm talking about the pictured MagSafe one.

>>61929422
>>>61928259
That's true but hyperloop is a giant vacuum. It would fuck up a lot of shit if you got on one of those with a bomb

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>>61927872
>rewarding clumsy hambeast fucks for treating their stuff like shit and expecting to get it fixed for free

The ATX form factor
>RAM sits next and in front of the goddamn cpu socket
>in most cases the pci/pci-e slots aren't thermally shielded from the cpu
>nearly impossible to find a case where the positioning of the optical drives and hard drives allows you to install ducted cooling in a push-pull configuration.

Literally ancient garbage.

>>61926973
You must be really bored or really brainwashed to put that much effort into shitposting. Solar is absolutely retarded when nuclear can provide all our energy.

>>61927267
3dpd

>>61929570
>tfw BTX never caught on

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>>61929629
>>tfw BTX never caught on

Makes me miss my old Dell BTX box :/

>>61929666
I've got an old Optiplex 760 sitting next to me
Very interesting piece of hardware,
Its got a DisplayPort, an eSATA port, and uses the BTX form factor

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>>61927557
If that was Chuck, the police would be going the other way.

>>61927594
It's an iDildo

>>61927729
No, muh tax dollars. Try living in Oregon, where some school districts spend more that 50% of their budget on pensions alone and causes a biennial crisis. Anyway, we should embrace nuclear anyway. It has the lowest environmental impact.

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>>61929696
>tfw house is completely powered by hydro and nuclear
1 ETH to who ever can guess where I live

>>61929708
Vermont?

>>61929718
Nope

>>61928387
1. pay chink do design similar mouse
2. pay chink to make said mouse
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!!!

>>61928240
How is >>61927035 climate change denial?

>>61929708
France?

>>61926421
fundamentally bad design, you have to write a 600 words essay to explain "why" they made those choices.

>>61929708
how about slovakia?

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CueCat barcode reader. It scanned barcodes and directed your browser to the website. So if you scanned a Pringles can it would send you to the Pringles website......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat

>>61929743
I don't want the mouse.

>>61929834
These are really useful if you "declaw" them. I use mine for scanning serial numbers and shit so I don't enter them by hand (and mess them up).

>>61929708
Brazil?

>>61926046
I have an Apple watch and iPhone for my work. They're not bad, I just don't really know what to do with them.

Computers

>>61926753
frightening lightening.

>>61926495
>it comes with the pencil when you buy it
Now it does.

It didn't when the Pencil was first released.

>>61926798
You can charge the pencil.right from the iPad. 15 seconds gives 30mins of use

>>61929408
This

>>61929507
No it wouldnt.
Fucking idiots.

Thunderfoot had released a retardedvideo.
In fact the video was so stupid I'm sure he was simply milking his retarded watchers for easy clicks.

A very easy, cheap and reliable engineering solution would make that a NON problem.

Fucking safety valves.
In case of depressurization you open valves everywhere and depressurize the entire tube.

Tgats it.

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>>61928444
>one poolus shill in denial

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>>61926865
what did you just say?

>>61928507
>>61927000
>>61926883
>>61926460
>>61926097
This pasta has been all around /g/ for some time now, newfriends.

>>61929708
Ukraine?

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iPads and tablets
>Size of a laptop
>Functions of a phone
>Advertised for business and work
WHY NOT USE A LAPTOP THAT IS THE SAME SIZE YOU FUCKING RETARDED SHIT

>>61930654
>don't need the keyboard often
>for some reason there should be a physical one there at all times
Yeah, nah.

>>61929708
Saratov? Samara?

>>61927262
Now THIS is shitposting. Take notes fags.

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>>61930690
Explain me how you don't need a keyboard if you are using it for business purposes?
iPads and tablets are for kids.

>>61930654
I get your point when it's about 10 inch tablets

but 7/8 inch tablets?

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>>61930541
not only have you lowered the effectiveness of that pasta, you thought 6 newfag how to hide the fact that they're newfags

>>61930777
Still not as portable as phones and not as functional as laptops
Tablets are toys for kids

>>61930774
>post the only credible 2-in-1 device
yeah, that'll show 'em

>>61930774
>>61930807
>the only two uses for computers are Angry Birds and work
Looks like you're contradicting yourself by whining about tablets on 4chan.

>>61925958
How is this retarded?

>>61926179
Speaking of solar panels, don't they have non-linear loss of efficiency from heat (greencucks: 0.5% loss with 1°C rise, reality: ~50% with 10°C rise), and since they are 20-25% efficient at best, the rest of energy is wasted on heating?

>>61930770
Solar shills are the worst.

>>61928884
There was no point. Your entire post was some retarded narrative equating capitalism to satan.

>>61930864
Laptops are better for browsing internet.
Phones are better for playing music.
TVs/laptops/pcs are better for watching movies
iPads are better for throwing birds on pigs and doing Disney princesses's makeup
>iPads are for old people and kids

>>61930929
>Laptops are better for browsing internet.
Depends on what you're doing.
>Phones are better for playing music.
Phones suck for music almost as much as tablets do.
>TVs/laptops/pcs are better for watching movies
Depends on where you are.

>>61926179
SOLAR FREAKING ROAD WAYS
kek retard actually fell for this meme not realising the panels have to be angelled to do anything worthwhile

>>61931014
What do angels have to do with it?

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>>61931027

>>61930944
iJews are pretty okay for music, most flagship phone also have decent sound

battery life sucks when playing music tho

>>61931127
There are a select few that are good for music, and those have other such as storage capacity and codec support.

>>61931149
>codec support
No need to worry about codec when you use a smartphone

>>61930807
yeah, whoever tells me he can be productive with a tablet has a complete worthless job.

>>61926540
>it's a conservative retard not understanding the purpose of solar power episode
Solar wont replace coal or gas. It will just help aleviate the ever growing demand of electricity in the modern world. The peak production of solar might be well behind the peak of demand, but it could still help save tons of coal during noon and use those for the afternoon and evening. Turns out not burning coal is a near 100% efficient way of "storing" solar energy.

>>61926179
Actually, this post is the retarded one here.
Cloudy =/= absolutely 0 sunlight whatsoever.

Also, solar energy is LITERALLY cheaper than fossil fuels at this point and required little to no effort at all.
THE SUN IS LITERALLY FIRING FREE ENERGY AT YOU AT AN INCREDIBLE RATE AND YOU'RE COMPLAINING?

>>61931293
Call me when the rare earth metals, plastics, glass, etc used to build solar panels are actually extracted, refined and turned into solar panels with solar power.

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This:
1:1 (not 4:3/5:4) monitor
Server cannot run 54xx Xeons (support blocked via BIOS, despite it starts - chipset can run them)
Server have no IPMI/ILO - you need to buy additional card to run it.
Fug HP.

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>>61930883
It's was a designed to carry large on orbit and taking broken ones back to Earth for repairs. But rapid miniaturisation and advances in electronics made it easier and cheaper to build and launch a replacement for a broken satellite before Space Shuttle was even built. So, the project, so to say, was stillborn. Not that it made numerous notable achievements, Hubble would have been long-dead for example.

But what makes me especially upset about it is Buran. Shuttle definitely left some impression: its cargo bay was large enough to fit Salyut station. Thus Party people feared that the US wants to steal Soviet stuff off orbit (maybe even cosmonauts!), thus "we need the same thing but better". Subsequently cucking Spiral and air launch programs. And engineers delivered (a decade after Shuttle lost its purpose!): human-rated SHLLV Energia and Buran - 2 and 1 launches. Fully automatic flight and return of Buran is a great achievement, but... The country collapsed, no one had money or use for neither, then a hangar roof collapsed on top of it (IMO setting the lowest point in Russian space program): http://ralphmirebs.livejournal.com/219949.html

What do we have now? Dream Chaser that is derived from Boeing HL-20 that copied BOR test vehicles used in Spiral program? Stratolaunch that bears a resemblance to Molniya-1000? The secretive Boeing X-37, another small orbital plane? Clearly, the trend is shifting to smaller vehicles and air launch - and USSR had that research axed in favour of Buran.

>>61926886
>MagSafe
MagSafe has been retired years ago and everyone is still pissed about it. Have you been living under a rock?
Apple is using USB-C for everything except the iPhone now, which is weird, considering you can plug a Pixel into a MacBook without a dongle but the same cannot be said about Apple's own iPhone.
>tabs to wrap cable
OK, that's legitimately cool. But the cable itself is so flimsy it'll break within 6 months if you keep wrapping it.
>works as a wallwart or as a powerbrick
literally what

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>>61931293
Nuclear is cheaper and has the lowest impact of ALL energy sources.

>>61926171
>>61926178
I love poo fans in my computer

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>>61927032

They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard.

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>>61931213
I wasn't talking about smartphones, I just forgot the photo

>>61931325
>MagSafe has been retired years ago and everyone is still pissed about it.
No fucking shit. Look at the picture I'm replying to though. MagSafe.
>Apple is using USB-C for everything except the iPhone now
I'm well aware.
>literally what
You can plug the whole thing into the wall or you can remove the plug and add a cable.

>>61931353
T410 is even more retarded
t. T410 owner

>>61931343
Russia has already closed the fuel cycle with BN-800 solving what has been the main long-term "goncern :DD" with nuclear energy.
It's ironic that the scary Nucular is the safest of all energy sources. Hydro sounds "green", but a dam itself is a local ecologic disaster.

>>61930883
Better designs were scrapped for that useless piece of shit. VentureStar for a start, but even something like the HL-10 was more worthy of funding. Fuck the Space '''Shuttle'''.

>>61926171
>>61926178
What's wrong with these?

>>61926495
>losing things is kinda for children
Or for poor people. I can always buy another if I lose it.

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>>61931420
Come on, it's not that ba-

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>>61931420
>tfw the ruskies beat us with our own technology
RIP in peace 'murica

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>>61931420
(before)

>>61927035
Add the Iraq war budget to petroleum subsidies and see how that graph looks.

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>>61931321

buran sucked but you guys ruined energia stuffing up the polyus launch....you guys were a few lines of code away from having a functioning megawatt class space laser

the true shame and cringe of the space shuttle was that you axed the Apollo applications program and threw away a proven ultra heavy lift capability that would of kept getting cheaper for a reusable shuttle that wasnt actually resuable or cheap

>>61930036
>Thunderfoot had released a retardedvideo.
what a shock

>>61930036
He do have a few good arguments here and there.
But the main autistic issue of that man is his mania of re-releasing the same fucking video just because he found 10 seconds of extra data.

>>61931420
Bill Clinton should have a plutonium pit rammed up his ass for allowing the cancellation of IFR (and other things I suppose).

>>61925957
>oneplus one
>biggest winner in price/value since basically forever, held back but also made possbile beacuse of the invite system
>oneplus two
>a reasonable upgrade but weird things like missing NFC
>oneplus x
>a pretty good side project with some issues like heat and again no NFC
>oneplus 3/3T
>a clear upgrade from the 2, dash charging, has NFC this time, one of the fastest fingerprint readers especially at release, but again a slight price increase, but still well worth the money
>oneplus 5
>plagued with issues, too expensive, dual camera is a gimmick, barely any improvements over the 3T
How the mighty(?) have fallen.
I still have a sliver of hope for the 5T, but they really fucked it up this time.

>>61931321
>>61931424
>>61931537
Space spergs keep it up, I need to know moar!

>>61925903
But hyperloop is the future. No way Elon doesn't know what he do.

>>61931343
Nooo, you can't use nuclear, the only nuclear power source you are allwoed to use is the sun.
Remember the 1986 chernobyl disaster? Yes it was 31 years ago, but it's still relevant and any nuclear power plant can spontaneously explode and kill everyone.
Also, didn't you know that every nulcear power plant is actually a weapons factory?
Do you want a nuclear war?
Just accept solar power already, there are no other options.

>>61931768
>this is what solarfags actually believes

>>61931768
Let's also ignore that Chernobyl was a shit design that would never be acceptable in first-world countries.

>>61931320
why not just coreboot/libreboot the fuck out of that mobo via SOIC clips or something similar to remove any black lists on that hardware

>>61931768
>>61931801
And also ignore the money.
Everyone and their mother is researching solar because it's free money.
No one except angry insane people who care more about the future then about money are the ones who reseach nuclear power.

>>61925981
>I AM ANGRY AND PROJECTING BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LESS WILLING TO PAY FOR MY OVERPRICED TOYS THAN I AM

>>61931814
I'd rather disassembly native BIOS and remove restriction.
Because I have serious doubts about coreboots/libreboots abilities of supporting HP's proprietary RAID controllers (including builtin into mobo).

>>61926062
>implying the pebble steel will ever be obselete
enjoy your 400$ fagnet dummy

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>>61931768
>Nuclear power bad
>Every nuclear plant is a weapon factory
>Solar uber alles

Because of people like you, betavoltaic power technology development has stopped
>Betavoltaic? B-uh Its radioactive

Muh bad radiation, that just barely pass wooden plank barrier

FUCK YOU

>>61931801
That thing in Chernobyl was ACTUAL MILITARY type REACTOR, intended for produce plutonium further 'military' use (like bombs etc.)

>>61931768
Educate yourself, you dumbass.

>>61925981
I think you're the one who's out of autism pills

>>61926840
except for the huge as fuck dam you need to store energy?

>>61931801
Let's call it "early design". Because, you know, Fukushima in Cold War terminology was "first-world". MKER, the development of RBMK, is supposed to be very efficient and safe. NOT IN MY BACKYARD THOUGH!

>>61932130
Since when does solar power require dams?

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>>61931676
Probably the single most rage-inducing decision in the history of American aviation:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2006/01/x-33venturestar-what-really-happened/

>"hey Congress, we've got this amazing new spaceplane design all worked out, it'll be able to take off and land just like a regular aeroplane, it'll give us cheap reusable space access, it's perfect in every way"
>"hmm, why don't you switch out that perfectly functioning LiAl fuel tank for an untested composite design?"
>[all engineers involved with the project give a shitload of excellent reasons why that's a terrible idea and will doom the project]
>"no, I'm going to point-blank insist you keep the composite tank, even after multiple failures, and expressly refuse you switch back to the LiAl one you've already built and know works"
>"whoops, looks like your fuel tank keeps failing, this is costing too much money, time to scrap the whole project"

>>61932143
Storing energy as gravitational potential energy is quite common, could be referring to that.

>>61931703
Totally had one of these sad bricks of disappointment

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>>61931801
It was an early design from 60s, in which consequences weren't well understood yet. Instead of being arrogant and exceptionalist, you'd better learn of RBMK mistakes, or you can face the absolutely basic incompetency like this http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06/near-disaster-federal-nuclear-weapons-laboratory-takes-hidden-toll-america-s-arsenal in the "first world"

>>61931768
>>61932130

Do you know, that production of solar panels have that much impact on environment, so even for best ones with efficiency near 20% it would take years to pay off?

>>61932069
>>61932101
I'm sorry I was trying to really obviously pretend to be retarded, but I guess I was too good at pretending.

>>61931321
>Thus Party people feared that the US wants to steal Soviet stuff off orbit
This is a bunch of crap.
1) the inefficiency of the Shuttle, both economical and practical, was very well understood, that's why they originally wanted the Spiral which was much more practical
2) the rationale behind the Buran was replicating the technical capability, because it wasn't clear what US can do with the knowledge and infrastructure built for the Shuttle.

>>61931429
Nothing, he's just a shitter

>>61932190

It's cute how amerigans think they're safe from nuclear disasters. Declassified pentagon documents state that the US has between 15-20 nuclear bombs officially declared as missing.

>>61932161
>single most rage-inducing decision
>an SSTO
>not Orion
>not SeaDragon

>>61930036
>In case of depressurization you open valves everywhere and depressurize the entire tube.

Do you even know what vacuum means, you absolute mongoloid?

>>61928396
You're definitely from one of those northern European countries that draws less power annually than my toaster oven.

Solar is great out here, but only in some places. And wind turbines are a bad idea overall. We got the room for them, theres several thousand of the things about an hour South of me, but they require a lot of maintenance and dont produce much.

I think natural gas and nuclear are the ways to go. Use to live near both a ng plant and nuclear plant, both were very clean, just made steam.

I now live next to a massive coal plant that uses one of those big )_( cooling towers and all it does is make the lake water hot and look like an eyesore

>>61927663
Super inefficient. Why just kill some birds when you can kill the whole planet instead?

>>61932190
>Instead of being arrogant and exceptionalist
One serious incident, no deaths, no irradiated city. I would call that exceptional. We also don't mix civilian and military uses.

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>>61925957
>image.jpg
Imagine being blown the fuck out this hard by some chink company.

>>61932303
Doesn't mean they'll be used on us :^)

>>61925958

More like best tech

>>61928396
What did he meant by this?

>>61932359
Natural gas is certainly an improvement over coal, but extraction causes it to escape into the atmosphere, where it has waayyy more impact than CO2.

>>61928221
My $250 Toshiba Chromebook 2 does that as well.

>>61931283
Why supplement coal and gas when you can just replace them all with nuclear?

>>61929873
These are the legitimate /g/ dwellers.

>>61932512
This. Solar causes a lot of instability in the grid.
https://youtu.be/2zD0m_ci-oo

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>>61932532
ありがとう

>>61930036
That doesn't moot the fact that achieving vacuum in the longest vacuum chamber ever devised by orders of magnitude is still inachievable for us.
And the fact that they want to use airbreathing jet engines to power the vehicles for some reason.

>>61929559
>tfw user opened an energy drink near his MBP and needed an €800 repair
Spray got onto 1/4 of the keys, managed to seep under 6-10 of them and gum it up. Retarded new keyboard design means 1 drop of sticky drink means the key won't depress.
>User makes appointment with genius bar idiots
>User takes mbp to get checked, genius pops a key and notes issue
>Warranty now void on 1 month old, €2000+ system
>Replacement piece is €800 because the keyboard is literally part of the body
>5 minutes with a paper towel and it's working fine

Fuck.

>>61932359
The newer models of windturbines produces several MegaWatt per unit when they run.
Saves the natural gas for another day to be used.

>>61932764
One nuke can produce ~1 GW of energy, so take that!

>>61932781
>watts
>energy
lrn2physics faggot

>>61928060
Underated

>>61932818
Lack of sleep faggot

>>61929470
this

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>>61927506
>>61927430
>>61927411
holy shit
just stop arguing with him, he's too retarded

>>61932190

Chernobyl was literally caused by arrogant soviet higher ups forcing the plant personnel to run the reactor in extremely unsafe conditions well beyond the stated technical specifications just so they could run a test.

There is virtually nothing to learn from it that wasn't already known.

>>61927574
Too bad she's black.

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>>61926421
>the apple pencil
You guys are fucking with me now, right? This is like a modern demotivational poster type thing right?

>>61929708
Savoie, France.

>>61932412
Lining up plutonium rods for a nice photo nearly resulting in a criticality accident is basic incompetence bordering with criminal negligence. You can't find this kind of irresponsibility in Russian nuclear facilities, they've learned their lesson. (although lessons are easily forgotten over years, as you can see, so it's possible in the future of course)

>>61932937
>Chernobyl was literally caused by arrogant soviet higher ups forcing the plant personnel to run the reactor in extremely unsafe conditions well beyond the stated technical specifications just so they could run a test.
That wasn't the reason, it was one of the contributing factors. There was no "arrogant higher-ups", it was a tech personnel who violated the procedure to catch up with the schedule. Additionally, the procedure was unsafe itself. There was no evil KGB agents or Politburo members threatening to shoot everyone, most people involved were nuclear tech related.

Two main reasons for Chernobyl disasters were:
1. The designers' assumption that the reactor will always be operated by extrlemy trained people with complete understanding of the reactor internals. It was the case when they were designed, but it wasn't in 80s when they were deployed at scale.
2. The general deterioration of the skill and knowledge of the USSR nuclear industry in late 70s/early 80s due to mass NPP deployment. Simplifying the problem of expertise and scaling to ebil irresbonsible gommunists vorcing boor beoble to blow ub the blant :DDD just shows the lack of understanding of what actually happened.

>There is virtually nothing to learn from it that wasn't already known.
The US nuclear industry is deteriorating without practice, resulting in accidents like the mentioned above. Just like the Soviets in 70s, but for different reasons.

>>61931666
Don't forget the official software support dropped after a year.

>>61932359
Fuck Germans though.

>>61933174
And then you have us with the EPR kek.

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>>61926179
>"WE HAVE TO SAVE THE PLANET"
>cuts down trees
>"FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS"
>prevents the land from producing food
>"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
>revolts against nuclear power

Solar is good only for deserts and rooftops, any other case is only for PR. Why don't they just put some sparsely placed wind turbines on farms, if you want green energy?

>>61933313
>EPR
Eeh? Europe is building new nuclear instead of Germany forcing everyone to buy its ecogreen Siemens wind turbines?

>>61930793
I'd rather they hide the fact. Not like it matters, when the majority of the people here are newfriends too, who have learned to hide the fact that they're new

>>61930036
He is a cunt but is absolutely right on the unexplored difficulties of Hyperloop, a vacuum pipe dream. There is also no way around the thermodynamic difficulties of the engineering release he discussed in that one video. The pressure they name IS considered a vacuum by most metrics, yet many keep sperging about "muh reduced pressure".

>>61933608
Well EPR does prove Nuclear is just too complex for our modern world, no wonder it is goint to be dead in 20 years.

>>61927872
>too autistic to realize >>61927850 is talking about the battery lasting 12 hours

>>61932738
You don't necessarily have to replace the whole body, the keyboard is a pain in the ass to remove but it's possible. You can't do it without destroying the old keyboard and removing the motherboard. It also takes a billion tiny philips screws to put a new one in, and the old one is held in with rivets that fly everywhere when you remove it.

>>61933560
The green dream is a forest of wind turbines overshadowing endless bio-diesel fields. Trees and animals can GTFO.

>>61925958
>too soon

>>61932023
>used to develop docker
>easy to read source code
>quick to write, debugging is a breeze
>can be a scripted or compiled language
yeah, max autism

>>61932246
That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose something inefficient over practical when the latter is already in R&D?

>>61929708
Burgerville

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>>61932738
mfw I read this as:
>tfw user operated an energy drink (...)

>>61926954
>Why the fuck you need to charge a styllus? Really it's not just a capacitive shit?
Pressure sensitive styli aren't capacitive. It's possible for them to work without batteries though, but Wacom hold all patents on this shit, and refuse to license it to competitors. So every non-wacom pressure sensitive stylus out there forced to use batteries.

>>61933855
Because they needed the same industry capability to stay competitive, and a smaller spaceplane couldn't deliver them. Despite the Shuttle being extremely crippled in its intended use (inclination and launch-rate limited due to the orbiter thermodynamic balance, and many other major issues), the ability to put an xbox hueg spaceplane in orbit and take it back has spun up a lot of different technologies (related to control systems and heavy spacecraft reentry/landing in particular) and created a lot of infrastructure which could be used for many things. Soviets were a bit wiser in the hindsight, separating their orbiter and launch system. Energia was a universal super heavy launcher, more like Saturn V than Shuttle, potentially being reusable in the future with winged flyback boosters.

>Why would they choose something inefficient over practical when the latter is already in R&D?
Soviet space industry was far from being monolithic. There was a lot of rival design bureaus competing for funding, and lots of parallel designs in the works. Additionaly, they've made the same mistake as Americans, listening to militaries too much and allowing them to make requirements for the Buran hit the sky.

Chinese wanted to do the same, basically at the start of their manned program in early 90s they had 2 choices: a Shuttle-like spaceplane (Project 921-3) vs Soyuz-like capsule (Project 921-1). They wisely chose the latter due to lack of experience, and delivered it almost in time, which is pretty cool for the post-spacerace world. They still plan to make it someday, the project was shelved but it's still there.

>>61928238
hur hur lets make all phone shells made or glass now hur hur

I guess I wont be buying a new phone for a couple years

>>61925926

Im fairly sure some scientists working on the first new transportation method in 100 years can account for this easily

>>61934200
There are talks to develop a new launcher based on Energia. But it's all down to a budget, it certainly isn't planned before 2025. So if it ever flies again it will be almost half-century later...

>>61933174

The procedure they ran that night was THE reason for the meltdown. Calling it a "contributing factor" is a gross understatement.

I'm not saying they had guns pointed to their heads or were risking trips to the gulag, but you're kidding yourself if you think there wasn't pressure from higher up the chain for them to finish this test they were supposed to have accomplished months prior. Especially since they went way above and beyond what any reasonable nuclear power plant would have in order to get it done.

One man was calling the shots while everyone else in the control room objected but complied anyway because no idiot is going to risk a cushy job like that during the Soviet era.

>>61934879
It's not based on Energia. It's a completely different launcher.

>>61935019
>The procedure they ran that night was THE reason for the meltdown. Calling it a "contributing factor" is a gross understatement.
It's a contributing factor because there were many others, such as the unsafe design of the reactor itself.

I'm talking about the systemical source of the Chernobyl disaster, not just the human factor which is merely a consequence itself. The real source is failing to scale the industry properly, and/or failing to take scaling effects into account. RBMKs worked fine in an experimental setup with highly trained professionals in control, but when you build 15 NPPs with 4 reactors each without prior experience, you also need 60x personnel for these, that's several specialized universities which didn't exist before, a ton of newcomers and an inevitable expertise deficit and routine conditions. That's what happened in late 70s/early 80s, the new wave of soviet nuclear workers was significantly worse in quality than the previous one, which is well documented. RBMK had to be more foolproof for the new conditions, but it wasn't since nobody expected this.

Attributing nation-wide industrial planning mistakes to the political system and claiming it's impossible in another one is just plain ignorant. US, USSR/Russia and China have a lot more in common than one can think.

>because no idiot is going to risk a cushy job like that during the Soviet era.
Sorry, you're being the only clueless idiot here, these particular people in the control room had all the choices they needed to, they could cancel the experiment at any time if they felt the need to do this, which happened before several times, that wasn't the first try.