/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Tough decision for essentially the same money.

Good Brand, air cooled, newer designed (11 gbps)
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-aorus-geforce-gtx-1080-plus-8gb-11gbps-gddr5x-vr-ready-graphics-card-2560-core-1708-mhz-184

vs

ok? Brand, hybrid watercooled, older card (Looks to be end of line/discontinued)
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/innovision-3d-geforce-gtx-1080-ichill-black-8gb-gddr5x-vr-ready-graphics-card-2560-core-1759mhz-gpu-

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Waiting for the case is going to kill me

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I'm still on an old Sandy Bridge platform and have been putting off upgrading forever since I only really care about single-core performance for my gaymen, I still play a bunch of old games that absolutely rape either one or two cores and don't touch any others.

How dumb would it be for me to buy a pre-binned 5.4GHz 7740X if I essentially have money to throw away? Are there any benchmarks for it at these clocks? Highest I could find was 5.3GHz.

I know how shit the 7740X is from a price to performance perspective.

>>61923448
You could put it together on the motherboard box to make sure it all works, while you wait.

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Found this little cutie on my doorstep, gonna look sweet in my 300R case that better ship tomorrow cause I'm dying.

This a decent SSD?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SanDisk-SSD-240GB-Plus-SSD-520MB-s-Read-350MB-s-Write-Solid-State-Drive-New-ct-/132048027980
Fiver cheaper than elsewhere..

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>>61923515
>corsair cx
Aww that's cute sweetie.

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>>61923515
>old CX
why did you do this to yourself anon

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>>61923527
I'm only using a single gpu, it should suffice, I only want a GTX 970 at most, and my current card doesn't even need power connectors.

>>61923546
Because madman putting an 8350 rig together in current year.

>>61923405
does anyone have a suggestion for a monitor stand that clamps to the desk (so no base that sits on the desk) and can support 3 monitors, 24" - 27" - 24"?

Also general tips for what to look for in a computer stand? Never used one before, trying to save some space on my desk now.

>>61923595
>I'm only using a single gpu, it should suffice,
I don't care what you're powering with it, it's a piece of shit.

>>61923405
Should i wait for RX Vega 56 or buy a 1080 now?

>>61923670
Vega is shit, shit power consumption and shit performance, and will be launching at much higher prices than expected. A 1080 is Vega 64 levels of performance anyway, so just get that instead.

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Yeah/nah?

Also what RAM should I get for Ryzen? Do 2133 sticks have lots of overclock headroom? Higher speed stuff seems quite expensive, yet I see a lot of Ryzen users with 2500mhz+ RAM.

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>>61923643
C'mon Anon give me a break, I was gonna get the EVGA N1 750w, but that thing wasn't even 80 plus and the CX had a few more amps on the 12v rail, I'm new to this pc shit.

Inb4 the CX blows up at first boot

>>61923494
Is that actually something you can do or is it gonna break everything.

>>61923670
Vega 56 looks Albright if you were looking for a 1070, it doesn't match a 1080, also they'll be impossible to get on launch

Can I get a monitor rec? I have no idea what to look for for monitors these days.

I currently have two mismatched monitors, a 23" 1920x1080, 75hz, and some old dell 1680 x 1050. im looking to get a single monitor to put in between them in a 3-monitor setup, to use as my main monitor. i'll be running a 1080ti. desk space is limited so im not sure if i can tolerate a 27" monitor.

alternatively i can get a big main monitor and use it in conjunction with the 1920 x 1080, and scrap the dell monitor.

any thoughts anons? thanks.

Ram and CPU should be installed before mounting the case in most cases, you might break the GPU since it has no support

>>61923696
Tbh you just spoke what i think.
>>61923730
Well, i don't plan on getting a reference card anyways.

Sick and tired of waiting. Fuck this, i'm going full autism mode on 1080 + G-Sync. Why do (((they))) always win, guise?

>>61923708
Is this in aussie dollars or something? Seems very overpriced for US. I wouldn't risk the low speed rams, 3200 CL16 ones don't cost that much more.

>>61923820
yeah aud

guess I will be a good goy and get the 3000mhz stuff for 250+

maybe it would just be cheaper to build an intel system, since they perform fine with cheap 2133 ram?

>>61923820
>3200 CL16
isn't CL14 the recommended for Ryzen?

>>61923727
are you a fucking retard or something?

Do I need to buy SATA cables to connect my hard drives?

>>61923969
Board should come with it.

>>61923976
Wonderful, thank you.

>>61923727
Of course, it's stupid to go through the effort of actually building it inside your case when you don't even know it works. Just slap the motherboard on top of its box and build on there first to make sure everything works first. Once you're happy just take the GPU off, and you've got your mobo + RAM + CPU + cooler ready to just throw in the case all at once.

>>61923820
Does RAM speed even have an effect on performance anymore?

>>61923943
Yes

>>61924053
I guess I'll give it a try after I actually google to make sure this is safe. Honestly I was going to try this anyway since I know cardboard isn't conductive but 4chan recommending it has given me pause.

>>61923863
CL14 gets you Samsung b-die which early on was much more likely to reach rated speeds on Ryzen.
Memory compatibility has improved greatly (although still lots of room for improvement) so b-die is less important unless you're looking for 3400+.

>>61924057
Before Ryzen came out, no. But Ryzen loves high speed memory.

>>61924074
You'll see it done on most pc building youtube vids, don't worry.

I'm about to buy this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bKz6HN

Anyone save me before I do something stupid.
Else I'm paying within the next hour.

What's currently the ultimate CPU/RAM/mobo combo for serial performance? I need to keep TF2 at 240fps and from what I've heard even a 7700k struggles with this.

>>61924081
>Memory compatibility has improved greatly
Oh thank god. Is this list current or is there a newer one? Will I be okay with 2666 or 2400? The video I watched only showed an advantage with 3200 with a 1070 or higher, with no noticeable difference with a 1060. https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf

do i have to install any software programs for my gpu (gtx 1060 6gb gigabyte) or is that optional?

>>61924223
a driver you fool

>>61923838
If you want to consider intel it's better to wait for coffee lake, and i very much doubt it'll be cheaper. Ram speeds count on intel too even if not as much as on ryzen.

>>61923863
Yea but 3200 CL14 cost quite a bit more because it's samsung b-die and he was already worried about the ram cost, and the difference between 3200 CL14 and CL16 is minimal. You could argue that it'll be hard to get 3200 with hynix memory but with the latest agesa it is possible, and the new one (1.0.0.7) should be out in a month with more improvements for ram.

>>61924057
It does, ryzen's infinity meme fabric is linked to ram speed.

>>61924241
more specifically the card came with the Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming Engine program

what i mean is do i need that or is that an optional program?

>>61924292
that's just bloatware. rule of thumb, anything with 'extreme' in the title is gaudy bloatware for dumb 12 year old gaymers. especially if it's spelt 'xtreme'.

>>61924118
Looks fine component wise.
Price on the 1060 is a bit high, but probably normal pricing these days.

>>61924074
It will be fine anon, and if everything works you will be able to use it today instead of waiting for the case c:

>>61923405
Why did you dismiss 1060 3gb? It's the cheapest option for 1080 ultra gaming.

>>61924306
thanks

i was worried about uninstalling it because it said something about the program controlling the fans speed. i assume the card does that itself?

the program caused my pc to severely lag like once a day for some reason

So im going to buy a g4620 instead of a g4560 cause it has a better igpu. So my question is whats a good and cheap mobo for the g4620? Reason im planning on getting a cpu with better integrated graphics is because the 1050ti is way overpriced for my budget now so ill wait until the mining shitfest goes down. I was thinking of getting this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qjs8TW/msi-b250m-pro-vdh-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250m-pro-vdh But im open for suggestions and cricitism

why the hell werent more vegas manufactured
these tech faggots never keep up with demand

>>61924370
Yes fan speed is governed by the card's VBIOS which is on the PCB. That program would just let you set a custom fan curve, but you can do that with msi afterburner (overclock utility) if you like. Msi afterburner is also gaudy looking shit for 12 year old gamers, but you can get a theme to make it look normal if you care about that.

>>61924353
Yeah that's been a concern, but I can't really wait, my laptop died and I'm using very old hardware atm. Just going for it.

>>61922901
There won't be any reference

Would a 550w csm corsair be able to handle a 1.3v 4790k and a 1080 ti? Im thinking of upgrading my 1080 when i go to the states as ill be able to sell my 1080 at no loss so it would cost me about 150€ to upgrade. But i guess its not really worth it it i also have to buy a new psu

>>61924406
thanks for the help

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Was this a good buy?

>>61924628
Yea. The strix boards are always good.

Is CX600 that bad? My friend has a spare that was only used for a month or so before he bought an EVGA when he was troubleshooting. My current PSU is a non rated Raidmax I've been using for 3-4 years

Can anyone recommend a good mobo for a ryzen 5 1600, gtx 1060 6b, 16gb ram.

I was going to go with Asus Prime B350 Plus, but I'm not sure if it's trash. Anything better? Like gigabyte or something?

>>61924662
Let me put it this way. It's better than what you have.

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>>61924662
>Raidmax
Gross, people can hate on my CX all they want but at least it's not a ticking time bomb

>>61924683
>>61924700
I figured that much. I'll take it for free

>>61924677
Asus ROG Strix. It's only about $20 more and is a much higher rated board.

>>61924709
Nothing beats free.

>>61924662
I'm considering switching to an EVGA from a CX 550 M

The fan gets a bit too loud for the load it's given and the environment it is in. I think it might be a defect but it's not particularly worth RMAing and hoping to get an actual quiet unit.
I'll stick it in my old desktop where noise isn't a concern.

>>61924677
MSI B350 Tomahawk (and the Arctic variant)
MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon
Asrock B350 Fatal1ty
Asus Prime B350 Plus
Asus B350-F Strix
Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3

That's all while staying ATX, not looking at mATX or mITX

>>61924721
Sound isn't really a concern. I just want something I don't have to be afraid of failing.

>>61924740
Yeah but it's like my CX 550 M has a weird rattling it seems it shouldn't have.

Apparently it's an issue more prevalent when it's pointed down (which it is in my S340). But given my PCPP est. watt usage is a little over half of its max wattage it shouldn't be happening to begin with, I'd think.

It just seems off to me the PSU is the loudest thing in the build, even at some times when idle.

>>61924709
Hmm, price difference is maybe £40 here, so that sucks.

>>61924728
Thanks, will check out the price differences and see what i can do.

Do you know if the Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3 is much better than the Asus Prime B350 Plus, as it's only £15 more.

>>61924764
Personally, I'd get the MSi Tomahawk but whatever floats your boat. it's about the same performance wise as the Prime B350 Plus

>>61924662
The old CX (green) is shit, the new one (white) is decent.

Any recommendations on 24" -> 27" screens? 1080p or 1440p, should be IPS atleast.

>>61924807
Yeah I was just looking at that as the price is similar. Does look good.
This yeah? http://www.ebuyer.com/780726-msi-amd-b350-tomahawk-am4-socket-atx-motherboard-b350-tomahawk

>>61924831
mg279q

>>61924860

Horrible QC, got 4 screens (all new from two official retailers) with dead pixels and sometimes horrible backlight bleed.

>>61924860
I think that's out of my pricerange, i was thinking about a Dell Ultrasharp U2515H, i have a older ultrasharp which im pretty happy with.

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Should i do any changes?

>>61924896
I'd get one DIMM of the biggest size your board can support, helps with future ram upgrades.

>>61924916
Not him but I have 2x4GB @ 2933MHz in dual channel.
I have two additional slots, what issues would I have with getting another similar kit later to reach 16GB?

As long as they run at 2933MHz they shouldn't be a burden right?

>>61924942
There's no problem with having 4x 4GB modules for dual channel, it's only if you get an itch for a 32/64GB setup, you'd have to get rid of your modules.

>>61924368
Yeah, it's the only card you can buy at normal price nowadays.
There's a already a handful of games where it shits itself at ultra settings though, because of the 3 GB vram. This will probably happen in more and more games over the next years.

>>61924889
heh, maybe the pg279q is worth the price then

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What do you guys think of my first build? I'm not super knowledgeable on this stuff but hopefully I chose some good parts for my first pc. Any advice appreciated.

>>61925236
>PSU is 650w but it's high end
You're smarter than me.

I've just swapped my IPS QHD monitor which had pretty annoying IPS glow for a QHD TN one. The colors are obviously worse, I don't care, the uniformity is better too however there's a pretty atrocious interlacing, darker vertical lines which are really noticeable on lighter backgrounds. It's even noticeable during regular gaming. Fucking ugly. And apparently all similar TNs suffer from it. Is that more of a 144Hz thing or a 1440p thing? Are all panels of that kind shit? Can I just forget about QHD meme, go back to 1080p, find a nice fast 1080p panel that doesn't have those issues and wait for QLED or whatever?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WMRqFd (local prices from my country)
GTX 1050Ti for $164 or 1060 6 GB for $320?

Bugdet is around ~$750, including case and peripherals (monitor already bought).
No "wait for prices to go down" option, please.

>>61924377
Bump

>>61925316
What do you want to run?
Out of the two the Ti isn't nearly as overpriced than the 1060. With your limited funds I would get the Ti and get better CPU and 16 GB of memory and that way, while it will be time to upgrade a GPU sooner, by then the
>No "wait for prices to go down" option, please.
Thing may not be an issue.

With the current GPU market in mind... whats a logical upgrade from a R9 270.

Everything is out of stock or overpriced unless i go for a 1050Ti (more or less the same performance as my current GPU i think?) or throw caution to the wind and get a 1080.

Hello I want to buy a GTX 1080 for 200 dollars, can someone sell me one?

>>61925316
Could go 1060 3gb as they're not getting scooped up for mining anymore. Should be around $200-220.

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Got a 3570K at the minute, going to upgrade soon. A family member has a 980Ti and a i5 4590, is it worth giving them my 3570K (and motherboard) which does 4.7GHz, or is it not worth the hassle? Just wondering because it's a generation older, but clocked way higher.

Their system is pretty much just used for random internet shit and a bit of gaming.

>>61923727
It's gonna break anon, everyone else is trying to get you to break it don't listen to them. Wait for the case

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>>61923515
>CX750

>>61923711
They don't blow up at first boot, they wait until you're not home and thermite your entire case

>>61925663
That or they wait until you fall asleep and your fire alarm is out of battery.

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>>61923515
>people still buy corsair cx psu's despite it being extremely well known how shit they are
What did anon mean by this?

>>61925620
>his case is mATX
ree

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Are there any complaints with the ASUS GTX 1060?

>>61925901
Which one senpai?

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>>61925961
>6GB Dual-fan

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7q33TH
I'm in too deep to back out now.
>inb4 poorfags and nvidiots whine about vega

>>61923515
>not getting a Superflower or Seasonic OEM PSU

I hope you enjoy that explosive piece of shit CX series

>>61926180
>actually got your hands on vega
HOW

>>61926195
Fingers are fucking crossed, my peak worst case usage for my system is 289w, so I won't be putting a load on the bastard.

>>61926227
It still might die

It's just that shit

>>61926180
What kind of shady back street deals did you make to actually get Vega?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H68zD8

Convince me not to get this raisin.

>>61926238
Well fuck, at least It's got a 3 year warranty.

why are people even scalping vega? nobody in their right mind would pay more than what a 1080 is worth for a card that performs worse than 1080

>>61926226
>>61926272
I stayed up all night camping newegg.

>>61926312
Vega 64 is hotter, slower, and costs more or the same as a 1080

However, Vega 56 is at least faster than the 1070

>>61926313
i did the same
all that was there were fucking bundles
it was just my luck that a sapphire one came up for the 10 minutes i decided to make my dinner on

>>61926180
I hope you have fire insurance

looking for a new mouse, i use a fingertip style
There doesn't seem to be too many options compared to palm or claw. I'm looking for a light mouse and I have small hands. Side buttons and DPI buttons would be a plus

>>61926333
F
also nice get

>>61926364
Logitech pro is a small mouse

>People unironically getting Vega64
>These are the same people that berate you for being a fanboy and not buying the superior product
Being an AMD fanboy is a mental illness

>>61926364
Zowie

im not denying that the 1080 is superior in performance
i just cant use nvidia for what i need because of cucked drivers

>>61926419
>AMD drivers are superior to Nvidia
Now I have seen it all

>>61926443
>2017
the truth being anything but amd drivers > nvidia

i guesss its hard to see the truth when nvidia botnet drivers stole it all from you.

>all these passive-aggressive comments
>>>/r/buildapc
shoo shoo
>>61926443
AMD is Open Source, they're automatically better.

they dont even have $499 vegas listed anymore
fucking kikes

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>>61926389
>>61926404

>>61926501
>>61926509
>AMD drivers are better
>But AMD drivers are holding back Vega's potential because they have a skeleton crew for their drivers
Being an AMD fanboy is a mental illness

>>61926570
AMD drivers are objectively better.
Meanwhile, nvidia gimps the performance of their older cards in the drivers to force people to upgrade.
>but skeleton crew
And I raise you planned obsolescence

>>61926570
>amd being objectively better at things other than gaymen means they're bad
(You)

>>61926634
Here comes the tinfoil hat conspiracies. Literally a mental illness.

>>61926646
What is AMD drivers objectively better at?

I finally have my build locked in. I'm researching and seeing some bad reviews about the motherboard and DDR4 3000 compatibility, but honestly I'm assuming the reviewers are cavemen at best.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gndvJV

>>61926650
>R9 390X/290X currently outperforms GTX 780Ti
Explain this bullshit

>>61926667
rendering
computing
mining
price

>>61926667
longevity

>>61926706
http://www.babeltechreviews.com/nvidia-forgotten-kepler-gtx-780-ti-vs-290x-revisited/view-all/

>>61926706
>muh fine wine

I wish Navi will be a success at high end gayming.

>>61926717
I asked about their drivers. Not the cards itself. That being said their cards aren't even cheaper than nvidia's one anymore.

>>61923405
I bought a TYAN S3992 and 16GB of ddr2 ecc FB ram. It doesn't fit in the slot. What should I buy that will fit and work?

>>61926756
>399 and 499 aren't cheaper than 450 and 500+

>>61926778
1070 MSRP if you bother to check is actually 350.
Also
http://wccftech.com/amds-rx-vega-64s-499-price-tag-was-a-launch-only-introductory-offer/

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1050 4gb
or
1060 3gb

>>61926739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eNVv2yhDVE&t=255s

>>61926804
1050 4gb or 1060 6gb
The 1060 3gb is garbage.

>>61926796
After a year and a half, yes.

>>61926818
1050 it is.

I'm placing a lot of trust in you pal.

Also saving $50.

>>61926816
>>R9 390X/290X currently outperforms GTX 780Ti
>Explain this bullshit
>Gets linked to a detailed article
>Ignores it
>Instead post a youtube video from a site with a known AMD bias and it is about GTX780 which is not the 780ti
Literal mental fucking illness

>>61926796
>implying you could even get a 1070 for 350 even at launch

>>61926706
Because Nvidia switches to a new architecture every ~2 years

Vega is AMD's first new arch since 2011.

This means that every AMD driver update benefits "older" cards as well as "newer" cards since they're all essentially the same rebrands from 2011.

>>61926826
>If we go back in time, the Vega is cheaper than the Nvidia counterpart

>>61926864
>Let me compare MSRP to retail price and call it fair
Ebin

>>61926875
Launch price was $379 for aftermarket. $450 for FE.
Nice try you jewish shill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

>looking forward to upgrading to Volta
>suddenly Vega releases
>DOA
>Nvidia in no rush now
>Volta Q2 2018 btw
Once again, AMD manages to fuck everything up

>>61926916
Yes. Vega56 is competing with the launch price of 1070. Holy fuck the mental gymnastics of AMD fanboys is amazing.

>>61926931
What mental gymnastics? $400 is cheaper than $450 no matter how you try and spin it. People will buy the reference cards because that's what's available.

>>61926858
>known AMD bias
which must be why he recommends nvidia cards at every fucking opportunity
Fuck off. You're as bad as explaining what real oppression is to alt-right snowflakes

>>61926957
1070 cost $450 despite its MSRP being $350. The Vega56 will not be $400 dollars. And that is saving 50 dollar for something that runs hotter, louder and draws more power. If you manage to get it at $400.

>>61926991
>msrp being $350
stop moving the fucking goalposts
fe is $450
reference vega is 400
vega is cheaper than pascal

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>>61926977
Which is why he gives us gems like this benchmark which setting made to cripple the Nvidia cards and make the Vega56 look good. Or why there isn't a Vega64 review up because he is the good goy that he is when AMD said to focus on Vega56. Oh and what happened to 780TI? Right conveniently forgotten. Losing argument? Time to bring in /pol/ and the alt-right.

Literal

Mental

Illness

>>61927010
You are the faggot moving goalpost comparing Vega to launch price MSRP.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-1060-official-price-cut-specs-upgrade/
Update yourself moron. Specifically this part.
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Update – $349 US Price For Absolutely Competitive Performance

Is it just me or are the 1070 terrible value right now?

Looking in stores here in Sweden the 1060 6Gb costs about €250-300 and a 1080 from as low as €520, they seem like much better value than a 1070 which lands around €450-500 in most stores.

>>61927020
>nvidia sabotaging their own product means its a flawed benchmark
lmao
>>61927046
I never said anything about launch price, you brought that up. Even in the fucking TITLE of the article, 1070 is $350 AFTER PRICE CUTS to compete with the 480.
AMD has Intel and Nvidia shitting their pants because their products sell like hotcakes. Cards being sold to miners instead of gamers are not lost sales.

>>61927089
Yes. The 1070 is priced at $350 MSRP now you fucking idiot. Who cares if there is a price cut or not. It is at a cheaper MSRP now compared to the Vega. Your entire argument hinges on the "moving goalpost" and the FE being $450 like >>61927010. Holy fuck I am convinced you are mentally ill.

>Lmao
Good argument right here. This is the only response when someone moronic says a stupid statement and proceeds to backpedal till he is cornered. Remember it is 780TI. Not a 780.

>>61927087
The 1070 price is inflated because of miners. The same thing will happen with Vega56. I won't be surprised if the Vega56 ends up more expensive than the 1070.

>>61927157
I wasn't talking about aftermarket cards because they're not available vega yet. Even after the price cut for 1070s, you still couldn't get them for that much. The lowest price on an aftermarket 1070 was for the Zotac and Gigabyte minis which were $380 before the mining craze.

Eth dropping right?

>>61927226
btc is $5k

>>61927217
You are comparing MSRP to fucking retailer price you idiot which was what I pointed out here >>61926875. You don't even know Vega56 retailer price cause it hasn't been launched yet. Fucking mental ill right here.

You want to compare MSRP? Compare both products MSRP (At the same time period). Or compare both products retail price. Given that we don't know the latter, it is only fair to compare the former.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VHJTyf

Anything I should change? Already ordered the rx 580.

>>61927247
>we don't know the latter
msrp is $400
judging by 480 trends aftermarket retail will be $430-450
try to find a 1070 for that much

>>61927258
>X370
Why X370 over B350?
>Custom cooler
Why custom cooler over stock?
>580
Where did you get one in stock?

>>61923818
There's always something.

I did turn to Intel with my 4690k, back then AMD had nothing good against it.

Then, couple of years ago I went for the 390 meme, nice competitor to the 970, good times.

And now I just upgraded to Ryzen, so finally I have a full AMD build, but who knows what GPU upgrade will I choose next year when the time for 4K gaming comes.

>>61927258
That RX 580 is overpriced by $100

Beyond that, add a 1 or 2 TB HDD. 120 GB will not be enough, mark my words. Windows 10 is 20GB by itself. 1 good game and that drive is done.

>>61927270
>Still saying MSRP is $400
Fucking idiot. I just linked you this. FFS. Are you so stupid that you can't read?
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-1060-official-price-cut-specs-upgrade/
1070 MSRP is 350. Retail price can differ from MSRP.

As it is comparing MSRP for Vega56 to 1070, it is 350 vs 400. We don't know Vega56 retail price yet.

Stop being fucking stupid.

>>61927258
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/77njFd

>>61925620
Nah there's probably someone who needs it more than that person.

>>61927300
not the original poster, but that's much better. Still needs an HDD though

>>61927181
Seems kinda silly, you'd think the price would still sit way below a 1080 no matter what.

The Vega 64 started off at €500 but rose to €600 overnight, granted not many stores carries them yet.

The 1080 seems like the safer bet but Vega 64 looks to have way more raw potential if they bother optimizing their shit, it all hinges on the pricing for me as they currently have the same exact performance on average.

What's the best X370 MOBO?

>>61926925
You think this is over
>volta released
>because of no competition and miners launch prices are inflated by 50%
There are no brakes on the gpu train. You had one job amd

>>61927289
You can't keep calling pascal cheaper than vega if you can't even find a card for msrp. No video cards are going for msrp atm. Vega 56 will be $400 at launch assuming they don't have radeon packs.

>>61927322
Give that you have the euro sign I assume you live in Europe which probably has a high cost of electricity. That 50-100 dollars that you MIGHT save from buying the 64 over the 1080 will be included into electricity bill anyway.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tt4Jr7
Final revision before I buy, thoughts?
Want to stay under 1k and I'm reusing my PSU, 250gb will hold me over until I get 2x 3TB HDD's in a few months
Will pretty much be used for gaming (Racing sims, FPS, etc)

>>61927324
The one you don't pay for.
B350 overclocks just as well.

>>61927324
Either the ASUS ROG board or the Gigabyte Gaming k7.
>>61927358
>implying £2 will make a difference

>>61927379
Then what's the best B350?

>>61927362
That 1060 is overpriced but not as much as AMD cards. I'd say go for it.
Order that graphics card first though

I'm wanting to upgrade my case. What kind of things do you suggest I look out for? I'm thinking something simple with some good cooling capability. Budget is $50-$125

>>61927356
>No video cards are going for MSRP atm
>But Vega56 will go for MSRP at launch
Holy fuck. Stop being fucking retarded. Vega64 already rose over MSRP by 100 dollars overnight. Granted a few lucky people got it at MSRP at launch before it got sold out.

You honestly think that the Vega56 which reviewed comparatively better than the Vega64 is going to be at MSRP for long? You need to be one of those to grab it the moment it launches. Fuck it might not even launch at MSRP.

>>61927387
see:
>>61924728
We've discussed this shit before. Actually look

>>61927396
Define R5. Define C if you want cheaper/smaller.

>>61927396
>upgrading your case
why

>>61927358
The Vega 64 is currently €100 more expensive, but i'm holding off until more retailers carries the card, if they still sit around €600 by then i'm getting a 1080, to be honest it seems like the best bang for the buck hands down, presumably due to the mining inflation fucking up the mid range.

>>61927273
Im in Canada. Everything is more expensive. Checking the price history for the last years, this is 30$ more than the minimum price.

I have 2 1 tb hard drives

>>61927273

> Why X370 over B350?
I use linux and want kvm. That motherboard has the best kvm experience and I am willing to pay more for that.

> Why custom cooler over stock?
Cause I dont trust stock coolers. Will that cooler not lower temps enough to warrant it? Im not looking to overclock. Should I just go stock.

> Where did you get one in stock?
newegg canada.

>>61927427
Meshify C is the current year revamp with tempered glass and without the shitty brushed plastic front.

>>61927425
Tomahawk or Carbon Pro?

>>61927382
Assuming the Vega64 runs 100 watts over the 1080 and you use it 8 hours a day at 12 cents/kWh. That is 35 dollars a year.

>>61927458
https://youtu.be/LzIIIoSveU0
The Wraith Spire and Max are good coolers. Plenty of people have OC'd 1600 and 1700 to 3.9 GHz at ~35°C.

>>61927300 see >>61927458
also, Im in canada. Also, is the 850 ssd better than an nvme drive? NVME was cheaper

>>61927468
Costs more.
>glass
I hope you don't buy cases with windows, anon.

>>61927458
>Canada
Yeah just use stock.
If you lived in arizona then maybe not but you live somewhere cold enough you can use stock as long as you don't OC. Even then the stock OCs just fine.

>>61927490
god bless u anon. I will save 40$

>>61927472
Personally, Tomahawk

>>61927494
>It is the autistic anon who berates people for buying cases with windows

hi guys

>>61927521
>is the autistic anon who has a window on his PC
I bet you have LEDs too, you flaming faggot.

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>>61927494
It's tinted so dark it doesn't make a difference you autist. The front also has much better airflow.

>>61927445
If I were you and I really wanted a Vega64 I would wait for AIB. Regardless of performances, the thermals and noise that the Vega64 is generates is fucking insane on load. I will never have such a thing near me in my room.

>>61927530
Is there a version without a window? Half of my parts light up and I don't want to see that shit.

>>61927519
Why?

>>61927528
Like I mentioned the last time you faggot, I have a window so i can look into my case and judge when it is time to open it up to clean up the dust.

>>61927491
The 850 Evo is NVME, it's just 2.5" instead of m.2 2280.
>>61927538
Just turn them off.
https://youtu.be/xzfkTRKlUcA

>>61927501
I live in a temperate part of canada
>vancouver

lowest it gets during winter is -5.

But ya, Ill prolly go stock. I still wanna shave off more money buy looks like I can only do so if I compromise on the case and not get an air 540 which I really dont want to =(.

>>61927545
personal preference. I'm getting a TOmahawk Arctic. It's the only white B350 ATX board atm

>>61927554
Can't turn off power lights and certain MOBO lights.

>>61927559
How much is a 1060 6GB there? Or is it too late to switch GPU?

>>61927570
Is it just aesthetics or is it better in some way? I don't know much about motherboards.

>>61927576
Did you even watch the video? The guy even bitches about the tint being too dark.

>>61927583
Aesthetics. Under technicalities, the Pro Carbon is better. But in general, you probably won't notice a difference

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is buying a 1080ti a really bad idea if you only have 1 4k monitor and a 6700k

>>61927617
So there's really no reason to go X370?

>>61927535
It's not that i really want it, i just hate to buy something expensive only to see price cuts and shit a month later, i'm honestly just being cautious around new releases, but who the fuck knows with this mining shit fucking everything up, might be better to jump the gun before they fuck up the 1080 pricing too.

>>61927638
Not unless you plan to SLI 2 nvidia cards.
But if you're spending that much money on graphics cards to start with, why not Threadripper?

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>>61927619
im planning to buy one and i only have 1080p monitors and a 6700k

>60fps plebs gtfo

>>61927619
1080ti will run 4k@60 for most game well if you run off the retarded eye candy stuff. And your CPU hardly matters since the bottleneck will be GPU.

>>61927641
It is more likely the price will increase seeing how the Vega64 price spiked in a single day.

>>61927654
Perfect, thanks for all your help. Buying a B350 Carbon Pro right now.

>>61923708
Dude, so many things:

>Getting a x370 mobo for a Ryzen 5 1600
get a good b350 mobo, don't waste your money.
>Getting that cpu cooler
It's absolute overkill for a Ryzen 5 1600.

I'm assuming you're aiming for max fps in games since your getting a 165hz monitor and a Ryzen 5 (6c) as opposed to a Ryzen 7. SOPA aside, get a i7-7700k if you only plan on gaming, otherwise at least use the money saved by not getting an overkill motherboard and cpu cooler to move up to a Ryzen 7 1700.

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Daily reminder that if you use windows, make sure you enable high performance in the advanced power options, or download AMD's power plan.

Windows is retarded and fucks with the latency between frequency shifts.

Its like an 8% difference in some games, and I'm getting an extra 8 points on average in cinebench @3.6ghz

>>61927737

Also pccasegear tends to be more expensive compared to mwave and even scorptec

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>>61927745

>>61924821
>The old CX (green) is shit, the new one (white) is decent.
I think it's green. What kind of PSU would you suggest then? I need something around the 550 range, and I guess I can use this in the mean time

>>61927660
>It is more likely the price will increase seeing how the Vega64 price spiked in a single day.

That's a good point, i don't think the €520 1080 was a reaction to the Vega 64 though, most stores run that card at €600-700 it's just one store that are that much cheaper for whatever reason, it's not even on sale, they have a good reputation too so nothing shady.

The only reason i haven't ordered yet is because they aren't in stock and there's no expected date, i can order it and guarantee that price but i don't wanna wait months for it.

>>61927789
If you are getting a 1080 for gaming, there is plethora of good games being released this month and next (Xcom2: War of the chosen, TW:2, DivOS2) so you might not want to wait to long. But if you are not gaming then why not wait™

>>61925610
please stop recommending anything below 4GB of vram in 2017

>>61926749
>tfw still using 7970
>still running 1080p new games on high
Only in the last 6 months or so am I finally feeling the age a bit. This card was ridiculous long term value

>>61927868
The 7970 was the last good card AMD really made. Everything afterwards was a rebrand of that and a rebrand of a rebrand and when they finally made something new it was shit like Vega.

Vega 64 was bought by assholes in for a quick buck.
They're all over ebay for ridiculous pricing.

>>61927890
When I finally upgrade GPUs, probably next year at this pace, it'll be a 1060 or 1070 if prices calm down. I'm still red team as far as CPUs though.

>>61927926
I am team best product. Brand loyalty is stupid. I get the best product that I can afford. Why should I get invested in multimillion dollar companies and gimp myself out of a good product?

>>61927745
Thanks big bro. I plan on going vega 56

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I thought vega was out? I just searched RX Vega on amazon and it's not there. Man I actually have the money to buy a gpu at launch this time around and it's not there.
Did amd delay it again? I was told they launched a siggraph which was a while ago now.

>>61927915
You think that is bad? Vega64 got moderate reviews. The Vega56 got great reviews in comparison. The Vega56 is what everyone will be after. It will be scalped to hell and back.

niggas, recommend me a good site to purchase parts from in europe. a friend of mine recommended Scan.co.uk, but I need other options.

>>61927981
Vega64 launched on monday but it wasn't a global launch so certain parts of the world might not be available. Check your local retailer. Regardless all the first batch stock are currently sold out.

>>61927946
I'm all for it too.
Unfortunately, proprietary technologies (aka gsync/freesync) lock you in with a vendor.
I'm getting vega, but it's a butthurt feeling.

>>61927983
vega 56 bundles when?

>>61928004
I'm in the fucking UNITED STATES OF AMERICA what do you mean
how the hell is it sold out they said it was late so they would have stock

>>61928010
Gsync/freesync is optional tho.
Don't get something you will regret down the road. Especially a reference Vega. At least wait for an AIB Vega. I got the 290x reference and I regretted it so much cause it was like a fucking lawnmower in my room. Sold it after 6 months.

>>61927807
Well, i do have a huge backlog of games, not really in a hurry but my 600 series card doesn't cut it anymore for anything AAA, just a 1060/580 would honestly be a massive upgrade but i figured i might as well make it an investment that will last for a few years, the inflated prices doesn't exactly make it easier to decide though, logically the 1070 should be the best choice, but it really isn't, at all.

>>61928016
>I'm in the fucking UNITED STATES OF AMERICA what do you mean
Maybe they didn't launch on Amazon. There was stock on Newegg. Did you check there?

>how the hell is it sold out they said it was late so they would have stock
AMD lied. They are all sold out now.

>>61928010
>freesync
>proprietary
Intel's next generation of igpu is going to support it

>>61928015
28.08 is the launch date

>>61928049
I know how it feels, I used to have a huge backlog as well but ever since getting my 1080ti I have been clearing them pretty fast. Putting that money to good use. Not having a social life helps too.

There was still 64 stock if you had amazon prime within the first 30min after launch, too bad i want a vega 56 and not a 64

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING ACX 2.0 6GB GDDR5 Anything wrong with that card? it's crazy cheap and brand new as well. Reviews look really great on the store website. Anything specific I should look into when buying 1060?

>>61928050
wow what the fuck it's only been 2 days if it really launched on monday how did it sell out ALREADY

>>61928037
I'm done waiting.
I've been waiting for a year for this shit.
Crossfire rx480 is pretty good when it works, and playing without freesync when framerate drops below 60@4K is just terribad.
If I went green, I'd have to 1080Ti to make sure that doesn't happen.
Guess I'll just sell my 480s then.

>>61928077
It sold out within 10 minutes of there being stock.

>>61928080
Yeah. Cash in on those 480s while the mining hype is still up. I am surprised you didn't sell your 480s and get a 1080ti with the money.

>>61928077
Miners are going crazy over Vega.

>>61928076
Nope. Just make sure the store you are buying from isn't shady. Should be fine.

>>61928100
THought vega sucks ass for mining and that 75-100hash was a lie.

>>61928099
>I am surprised you didn't sell your 480s and get a 1080ti with the money
As I said, Freesync is a thing I wouldn't tolerate gaming without now.
It really makes things butter smooth down to 45ish FPS which is fine by me, as I don't play competitive stuff, and very handy at 4K

>>61928145
Vega sucks ass for mining but given the alternatives it is alright. This is a gold rush and everyone wants a shovel, if they can't find a shovel then a spade will do.

>>61928076
Also forgot to mention I'm using matx build so i guess I should be careful about size.
>>61928111
It's very legit, I bought from them plenty of times. I think unironically vega did something. Last time I checked prices every 1060 was about 40$ more expensive.

>>61928150
Time to get another 4k monitor with Kikesync. That is how the jews get you.

>>61928173
Vega64 doesn't even compete with the 1060 6GB. Maybe they lowered the price because more people were hitting their site and if they see a cheap 1060, they might be tempted to buy it because the 64 is out of stock.

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Is switching to an IPS monitor worth giving up muh refresh rates? Right now I have the VG248QE, which has...
>TN Panel
>144 Hz
>1ms
>24"
>1080p

It's basically perfect, but every time I see an IPS at a friend's house, the mall or wherever I can't help but salivate. I have a 290 X too, so I can generally run shit at high enough FPS to justify 144hz.

>>61924916
>recommending single channel
>ever

lol

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hello pls rate

>>61928242
you have the absolute worst 144hz monitor to own in 2017, so anything would be an upgrade for you

>>61928242
There are 144 Hz IPS monitors, VN panels are fine too but colors will suffer a bit, great contrast though.

That said proper HDR panels are just around the corner, i'd hold off unless you're okay with with buying a new one in a year or two since it will probably bother you quite a bit if you see it.

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>>61928291

triggered / 10

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>>61928291
What in the God damn...

>>61928291
Holy fckin yummy!

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what do you guys think about the evga 11G-P4-6696-KR

>>61928327
Not him but it goes a long way with proper calibration, the defaults are absolute garbage, night view mode is the only mode worth a damn and even then the colors are garbage.

If you don't have calibration hardware to deal with it you are fucked though, no amount of tinkering will make it look good, serviceable sure, but not good.

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>>61928291
10x microSD cards to Sata? You can DO that?

>>61928327
What's wrong with it? I mean I know there's no dynamic refresh rates but I've never had a problem with screen tearing anyways.
>>61928328
I got my current computer in 2015, so I could get a new monitor and a new computer at the same time in 2018 or 2019, as painful as that is.
>>61928402
I just looked up a guide to the calibration settings from Tom's Hardware and used what they recommended. It's fine I guess. Colors were definitely better than factory settings, but still not as nice looking as dem IPS's.

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is there any point in drive bays like this? couldnt you just pop it out of the case and ignore the lock?

What's a good vertical view capable monitor you guys recommend

>>61928291
maximum /csg/ approved
dont trust that power supply or ssd converter to save your life
the fucking sharks are good though
what in gods name would this monstrosity be used for

Is it likely that drivers will make vega 64 as good as or better than 1080? Did the 480/390 ever get better than the 970?

>>61928514
memes

>>61928491
That takes time, any security measure is there to either inflate the amount of time someone needs to get in somewhere (locks) or give them a short time limit to achieve their goals (alarms and such). The lock is there to deter casual theft, give someone enough time and they can steal anything.

>>61928546
i have a 980ti and a fury x, comparing those 2 years out its more of the same, at least at 1080p. for 4k the fury wins most of the time
with that ill say probably not, that said the fury x wasnt a huge architectural jump like vega, whereas the 7970 was. where the 7970 used to lose almost every time to the 680, after launch the 7970 caught up, now in 2017 they're in a dead heat, sometimes the 7970 pulls ahead
so im gonna say it will probably "win" by like maybe 5%, but at incredibly higher power and heat
truth is no one knows, as it stands i would get a 1080 on sale instead of waiting even longer for AIB cards, at which point miners will know if they really want these or not, in which case if they do you wont get one for anywhere near the msrp. also, if the rumors of a separate launch and release msrp are true, theres no reason
only vega card worth it is vega 56 and thats only if you want 144hz freesync, otherwise a 580 is better if you still want freesync, otherwise a 1080 is best because of inflated prices on 1070s

>>61928565
>sharks are memes
TAKE IT BACK

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What's the most price efficient 1080P monitor with a 60hz refresh rate? Bonus points if it's an IPS screen.
>1080p
I'm getting a 1050 Ti, and don't plan on running anything higher than it. I've had laptops all my life so believe me, it'll be an upgrade to me. I'll jump on the high res train in a few years or so when it's a bit more accessible.

>>61928491
That shit must be noisy as fuck, but i guess if you need something like that it probably isn't mounted long enough for it to be an issue.

>>61928625
>I've had laptops all my life
I-I thought I was the only o-one...

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wrLnRG
i think i can find gpus for just a tad cheaper.
also what are your guys' opinions on buying used components aside from refurbished storage devices. i feel like its a bit desperate but if its still in working condition i dont see a reason not to if youre tight on cash

>>61928625
Someone panasonic IPS screen.
Probably.

>>61928625
How big? That really makes the biggest difference in price.

>>61923527
>>61923546
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=528
>Fortunately, Corsair has never really had a big problem there with any unit I can think of. Sure, a lot of people whine about the older CX units, but a lot of those people don't get something fundamental about that line... it was really freaking popular. Everyone and his dog bought one.
>If you sell a million units and they have a 1% failure rate (not saying the CX units were that high... or low... or sold that many), that still works out to ten thousand units that get RMAd.
>I personally looked at those units and found nothing to support any idea that the protection in them was lacking in any way. In fact, the newer CX units are exactly the same, just with increased ability to handle heat before shutting down.

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>>61928676
I plan on building a moderate little desktop sometime next year. I guess laptops have just been enough for me all my life.

>>61928698
>How big?
What typically looks the best for that resolution? Space isn't an issue, but I'd rather it looked like it "fit" if that makes any sense. So the graphics don't look like they're stretched out too much.

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does anyone make drive racks like this for inside your pc case? I think replacing the flimsy thing my case comes with and welding something in would be the most secure thing.

>>61928730
I can stomach 1080p at 32" as a monitor but that's probably the limit, not to mention really expensive if you don't use a TV.

27" is not bad unless you sit really close, if you do sit close 24" is fine, i personally sit 60-70 cm from my 27" but that would be too far for a 24".

So it really depends, but if you are on a budget 24" is probably the best bet since 27" is considerably more expensive, i personally find 21-22" too small since i'm used to 27" but since you're coming from a laptop i'd assume it's still an upgrade for you.

>>61923405
What do we know about Raven Ridge? Is it good or should I just jump to the cheapest Ryzen?

is there any way to get a desktop pc to use the keyboard and monitor on a laptop? I'm building my computer piecemeal, so i want to order the monitor and keyboard last if theyre the least essential.

>>61928870
If you use Windows "Mouse without Borders" should do the trick.

I know there are better alternatives but i forgot the name, haven't used it in ages and recently formatted my PC.

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>>61928808
Yeah I was thinking that 24'' was the sweet spot.

Thanks Anon, have a cute girl.

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what do you guys think?

If I carry my GTX 660 over from my current build, will it still work right with Windows 10?

>>61929091
300 pounds for 1070 with pound worth less than a dirt, wtf I love uk now.

>>61929091
>Intel
Go meme somewhere else retard scum

>>61929091
No reason to use Intel, save some and get the equivalent ryzen

>>61929136
>Its okay to buy Vega despite it being inferior
>Its not okay to buy Intel despite it being inferior
Loving this meme. Yeah sure buying intel is fucking stupid but you don't see people saying

>Vega
Go meme somewhere else retard scum

Just shows you how bias this thread and /g/ is.

>>61929159
Literally no one is recommending to buy Vega. It's an utter waste of silicon.

>>61929170
Did I say recommending buying Vega?
I meant a response as aggressive as "Go meme somewhere else retard scum" when someone list Vega in their builds. Because plenty of people have said they wanted to buy Vega in this thread already. Have you called them retarded scum?

>>61928802
can you guys help me or am i going to have to ask leddit

>>61926804
1060 3GB.
You'll get more performance out of it but the 3GB will hinder you later.

>>61926804
Get a 1050 Ti 4Gb. It's the most cost efficient card if at the moment. However a 1060 6Gb will last you longer (assuming you're using both for 1080P gaming).

The 1060 3Gb is the worst of the options.

>plan to make a TRipper workstation
>check x399 mobos in pcpartpicker
>majority of em are marketed for gaming
Why?

>>61929232
Because the processor is marketed "Not just for gaming".
Better to sell something as gaming and more than not gaming.

why is it illegal to kill miners?

>>61929254
Same law is why niggers are still around

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>>61929254
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61929232
>not just giving into the rice

>Find GTX 1050 Ti for $120
>Hesitate
>Back up to $140

Fuck it. I'm going to track local power consumption, find the nearest crypto farmer, and fucking rob them.

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This is probably a dumb question, but can a [Nvidia] graphics card of the same series but different brands have a different amount of CUDA cores?

Like can a 1060 6 gig card from MSI have less CUDA cores than a 1060 6 gig card from EVGA?

>>61923448
Good taste. Is that the 1700 or 1800x? Also that gpu sags like a bitch. You have been warned. How much did you get it for?

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>>61929136
>>61929152
Who the fuck do you think I am to pass on a free Intel® game bundle. Unless Ryzen comes with a free mountain of hot dogs, go shill your to someone else

>>61929091
I agree with running the 7700k on the h270. It's fine and a good way to save a few bucks. Disagree with 16gb and definitely with 2400 ddr4. Get the fastest shit you can afford, sometimes 3k or higher is the same price. Some games see a big uplift from ram speed.
But the real question here is what are you driving with that? 1080p 60hz?

>>61929358
No. Different board partners should have the same specifications for the cards except maybe the clock/mem speed out of the box.

>>61929393
It's not 16gb, it's 8. I was thinking of going higher than 2400, didn't really know if it would make any difference. As for what I'm going for, I don't know. Ideally 1080p, but more than 60hz.

>>61929401
That's what I thought, I just wanted to be sure.

>>61929409
Do you actually have the monitor though? Do you own a 144hz monitor?
That was a typo I meant "disagree with 8gb" unless it's a very specific situation where you know for certain you can do what you want to on 8gb.
As far as 2400mhz goes I forgot that h270 only supports that so you would need z170/z270 to go higher. 2400 is fine but some games do really like memory frequency.
Shame I can't suggest vega as freesync is nice, some games get stuck between 70 and 100hz regardless of the hardware you run it on and adaptive sync is nice in that situation.
Either way it's fine but if you only have a 60hz monitor you can save a ton of money dropping the CPU to something way cheaper.

Please god. Please let a solar flare wipe out the power grid. Please do it to kill the crypto bullshit.

>>61929436
While I do have a shit monitor now, that's not going to stay that way. I wanna buy the PC first, then buy a monitor. After that, a keyboard and mouse. This is my first PC, and the monitor I have now is actually a TV & monitor in one. So it's not ideal.

>>61929459
Okay cool. Anyway you can see a 144hz in person before buying? I bought into 144hz too, built my whole pc around it, but I often wonder if I would have been better served by a higher resolution IPS monitor. You also get the benefit of saving money with something like a r3 as it's enough for 60fps.
Just food for thought.
Again make sure 8gb is enough for you and I think the gammax 400 and cryorig h7 both outperform the hyper 212 so if you can get them for the same price wherever you are do that.

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>>61929455
If that happened they would just buy more GPUs assuming those were fried.

>>61928603
i love my shark cards, but raid 0 in a sata adapter is a bit much

>>61929483
Oh no. No they wouldn't. Because the world would be knocked back like 50 years. Small communities would die. Big cities would die harder. Only a structured remnant of civilization would survive to even begin establishing new infrastructure to survive the event. It'd be glorious.

>>61929466
I always thought that 8gb would be sufficient for a gaming/do just about anything rig. Is 16gb that essential?

>>61929529
Yes. Because developers are lazy assholes. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

>>61929529
Last I checked almost all games will run on 8gb but you can't have a single thing open with some of them. Web browsers and desktop applications are fucking huge now. Half of the desktop applications these days are just disguised web browsers.
You could try it and if you want more just buy more?

>>61929504
Oh so you want civilization to crumble because you can't play games

>>61929529
16gb is the new standard IMO, it's a brave new world

>>61928291
>shark cards

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When can I finally buy Ryzen Pro?

>>61929650
Good question, but the answer is Soon™

>>61929650
Soon™

>>61929541
>>61929641
Hmmm. Interesting. Good thing about RAM is that I can always get more. And I will... eventually.

>>61929635
>Oh so you want civilization to crumble because you can't play games
Yes.

>>61923488

>>61929803
Save the money and get a better GPU.

>>61929803
7740X is shit, get a 7700K for single thread gays

I'm looking for a GPU which has analog output and still modern. I've found a Sapphire RX 550 model which has DVI-I but it appeared only in articles. I don't really want performance, I have an age-old computer and my prev GPU broke.

>>61929871
Find an adapter?

>>61929871
Just use an active adapter if you need analog output, hardly any cards have them now. They're usually $15-25

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>look up drive cages on google images
>see male chastity cages

>>61929908
I cannot afford buying both a gpu and an adapter. Guess I need to stick to older stuff then

what are some other cases similar to this?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112470

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is there a dual threadripper motherboard yet?

>>61930172
As I know, threadripper is not multiprocessing-ready.

$450 build
ryzen 1200 + gtx 1060
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FsnwsJ

>>61930290
Didn't include a case, but fixed. The 3GB 1060 is trash and not worth the money.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WWB4bj

>>61930172
threadripper is not dual socket, you'll need epyc for that