RX Vega real MSRP is $599 and $699 respectively

they just cant deliver because of desperate greedy manufacturers. sad.

>>61918593
There are no reason to buy this turd

>>61918593
This sounds like there must be some confusion here because there's a lot of shit flying around between 3rd party sellers, and sellers putting it way above MSRP, plus the bundle packs.

>>61918593
>https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_s_rx_64_launch_pricing_was_only_for_early_sales/1

>b-but ayyymd are the good guys

>>61918593
>>61918767

Its the miners. Theyll drive the price way above MSRP. The bundles are a jew move but the excuse is they are trying to make is so the card makes it to some gamers. Still the bundles look like crap.

>>61918593
They will sell no matter what. AMD doesn't care if it is a miner or a gamer that buys the cards.

Why are miners buying this card it's terrible for mining!

>>61919062
Sad!

>>61919062

price to performance its ok

>>61919025
>Below is a quote from Overclockers UK's Gibbo, who reported that AMD's £449.99 price tag for their RX Vega 64 was "launch only" pricing. This price only applied to the retailer's initial allotment of RX Vega 64 Black standalone GPUs, with AMD giving gamers a £100 discount as some form of an "early adopter" discount.

>i-it's the miners

>>61919080
DON'T MAKE ME NUKE NKOREA
>>61919081
No it's not! Performance/watt it's even worse.

>>61918593
RTG is fucking finished, what a joke. looks like my next gpu will have to be nvidia because of incompetence.

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>>61919025
>muh mining

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58742/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-nowhere-near-100mh-mining-power/index.html

>>61918767
The game bundle is now the standard SKU. AMD literally told them to stop selling the standalone card. Sellers had nothing to do with it.

>>61918593
If this is actually true it will be a complete disaster.
>$600 for 1070 performance
>$700 for 1080 performance
>both over a year late and significantly higher power consumption/heat output

>>61919550
What the fuck are amd high.?

>>61919597
The packs exist so you can actually buy it since the movers don't buy those. Hard to understand?
>It's okay when nvidia does it!

>>61919597
Well the article is a bit retarded and it's wccftech, fuck knows. $100 would put prices at $500/600/700 for 56/64/64 WC, that definitely seems to expensive to make sense. Who the fuck would buy them? $400 for 56 could actually be pretty decent, 64 is pretty unattractive anyway but if they price it higher than 1080 it's going to be completely dead.

>>61919399
I hope these miners go and stay go. I just want a new card, man.

>>61919597
Le freesync

>>61919694
t. redteam+

Fuck AMD
GTX 1080 prices were 500-550 for basic models, now everything is 600+
If Vega actually delivered, prices would be more reasonable.

>>61919694
This is the state of the radeon shill. Desperate to salvage Vega from the laughing stock it is. Everyone point and laugh.

The packs are an ok idea to curb mass consumption by idiot miners who have no idea what they are doing. Because the power consumption is off the charts, and undervolting only curbs some of the power consumption with out disrupting the hash rate.

But the fact that you are locked in to specific hardware that AMD deemed appropriate, is a joke for a company desperately trying to preach open source viability in an increasingly proprietary world. Once again, radeon shoots it's self in the fucking foot. It seems all the old AMD hacks just moved over to RTG.

This whole product launch stemming from one year ago is a fucking joke. The cards are slow, and overpowered, overvolting to scavenge as much silicon as they can, and the hardware it's self is fucking garbage for anything but computation.

Nvidia has to be laughing it's ass off.

Raja needs to go.

Can someone recommend me a 1070 and 144hz gsync monitor?

Looks like I will be hanging onto my RX 480 for a while.

>>61921698
I have the [fixed] EVGA GTX 1070 ACX 3.0 and it's a really good card. Stays in the mid 70s under load even when OC to 2.03 GHZ. Would recommend. I have a friend who has the MSI Gaming X 1070 and his card hits like 85 under load at around 1.9 GHZ whilst my GTX 1070 is operating at a higher frequency but at lower temps so I can't really recommend that MSI version based on that but I dunno maybe my friends graphics card is faulty or something. That's just my first hand experience though.

Get a freesync monitor and play without variable refresh because it's a meme. That same friend I mentioned before has an PG278Q from Asus and when I tested gsync on vs gsync off there was basically no difference at all unless you're playing at like 25 fps which feels jerky but it would feel like that anyway. Get a freesync IPS panel like the MG279Q 1440p 144hz and play at high fps without meme technologies and without having to overpay.

>>61919080
Trump, pls

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>>61921680
>Raja needs to go.
Raja is probably going to get bonused.

Vega SSG has no competition at all.
Vega WX will at least trade blows with P6000 for 1/3 the price
Vega MI25 is getting used in Project 47
RX Vega 56 utterly dumpsters the 1070 once you undervolt and overclock it (pic related) on half finished drivers.

Even if Vega 64 never works the way it was intended the other four versions of Vega 10 are going to be successful enough to make Raja look fucking great considering the resources he had to work with.

so this means, no VEGA48 for 299$?

>>61923939
So this is what being and amdrone looks like.

>>61918593

Where are all those AMD shills that police this board like the fucking gestapo that always go around telling everyone how AMD is your friend, how they never lie and would never do anything bad now, huh? Praying for Ganesha for enlightenment on new ways to damage control for this massive fuckup?

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>>61924694
If you have any evidence to present to refute any of the asertions made, please feel free to do so.

Vega is DOA, i'd have gotten a 56, but really theres no chance.

It's a pity nobody is willing to produce more GPUs because they are afraid the mining market will suddenly bottom out and they'll be left with a ton of inventory

>>61925102
It's India Independence day. Cut them some slack.

>>61925186
You've never owned a firepro and it shows shill.

>>61919399
Something isn't right about that. I get 30M hashes/sec on a fucking 290x.

Technically speaking, if, and i mean IF this i true, can't there be a class action suite against AMD for false advertising?

>>61925212
I have a freesync monitor and I'm gonna try to snatch an aftermarket vega 56 when it launches but vega 64 can suck a dick. I do believe we're gonna get quite a lot of improvements on it though, seeing as how some parts of the card are apparently off and there's some weird shit going on with AA on it as well.

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>>61925251
Oh look, it's you again. I'm shocked. Really.

>>61925315
Nobody give a shit about your damage control, pajeet.

>>61925312
i really hope vega's mining performance is less than promised, hopefully they'll be disappointed with them and keep their grubby mitts off the 56.

>costs the equivalent of $780 in Germany
nope, not upgrading.

The GPU market is so depressing for 1440p
>Don't want to go Vega because they over absolutely no value and are not obtainable
>Don't want to go Nvidia because they are massive gapping cunts and it won't change anytime soon
>Consoles are eternally shit tier

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>>61925354
Here's an OC'd reference Vega 56 on half-finished release drivers vs. an OC'd AIB 1070.

>>61927244
>buy a card that costs nearly the same as1080 and needs a nuclear plant to run and wait for drivers
KYS pajeet

>>61927293
>buy a card that costs nearly the same as1080
$399 MSRP is nearly the same as a 1080?
>and needs a nuclear plant to run
Gamers Nexus got Vega 56 to OC core and memory on a significant undervolt that kept power use to 236 watts
> and wait for drivers
OC'd Vega 56 reference on half-baked drivers already dumpsters an AIB OC'd 1070. This is only going to get worse for the 1070 as Vega's drivers mature, so I don't know what point you think you are making.

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>>61918593
How long before this happens to vega

>>61927460
It already did.

>>61927460
>>61927604

nop>>61919399

>>61927691
You really think it's sold out because gamers bought it? Get fucking real

>>61927460
What's this hairstyle called?

>>61928160
JUST

>>61918593
I'm OK with this. The miners are going to RMA them once the fad is over so let AMD charge them double.

>>61928160
The "Just fuck me up part 2"

>>61919550
>>$600 for 1070 performance
>>$700 for 1080 performance

Not in mining.

>>61927858
The stocks was very low.

>>61923939
I'm fairly certain this is copy pasta

>>61928274
It's several copy pastas with the same graphs posted by drones. They just change them after release when they fall flat on their face.

Is it likely that m'drivers will make vega 64 as good as or better than 1080? Did the 480/390 ever get better than the 970?

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>>61918593
What the fuck were they thinking with vega?

>>61918593
stop posting wccftech clickbait

>>61928548
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_s_rx_64_launch_pricing_was_only_for_early_sales/1

https://www.techpowerup.com/236177/amds-rx-vega-launch-prices-might-be-just-smoke-and-mirrors

http://www.hardware.fr/news/15220/rx-vega-64-prix-officiel-illusoire.html

>>61928548
amdtard completely BTFO
>>61928585

>>61928377
The 480 was always beating the 970 and so was the 390 for a large majority
Yeah drivers might make it better, they might not. That's purely objective.

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>>61928548
>>>/leddit/

>>61928585
>all link back to some obscure forum post with no legitimacy

>>61928548

This is not a clickbait, HBMeme is fucking expensive and the Vega GPU die is bigger than the GP102 (1080ti/Titan X) die. Stop your damage control.

>>61928548
>announcing sage
how to spot butthurt plebbitard

welp looks like im buying a 1080
i tried to stick with you amd ;_;

>>61918593
>lying pajeet and tranny chink in charge of amd
color me surprised

>>61929069
buy I ryzen CPU

>>61919112
>Below is a quote from Overclockers UK's Gibbo
>my dad works at nintendo

AMD MSRP is 499. Period. It is 499 unless AMD says it isn't.
Everything else is retailer deal.

>>61929371
did nvidia fix ryzen dx12 performance?

>>61923939
>comparing overclocked vega 56 with stock 1070
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>61918612
Literally has nothing to do with the AIBs or Retailers, AMD is forcing AIBs to sell everything as Black Packs or above, the intro cards were Black Packs with the game codes removed sold for $100 discount.

>>61919062
They fixed it already, AMD even has beta drivers for 'blockchain compute'

>>61929488
>amdrones getting BLACKED

>>61929449
The card alone is $499.
The card alone was limited in quantity ,most retailers getting less than, NewEgg only got 30 for the entire country, my local Wholesaler got 4 (across all AIBs)

Radeon Black Pack is $599
The 'Radeon Black Pack' was shipped in far greater numbers, my local wholesaler got 460 (across all AIBs)

This is Bait and Switch.

>>61929521
it includes $120 worth of games though?

>>61929538
Yes it does, but AMD are advertising that a card is available for $499, where it clearly isn't, since it was provided in low quantities, with the intention of forcing customers to buy the bundle pack.

This is legally bait and switch.

>>61929550
You can tell why they're doing it, though.
Fucking miners, jesus christ.

>>61929563
Nice mental gymnastics drone.

>>61929563
Not exactly an excuse the courts are going to accept.
Bait and Switch is illegal.

Expect Jewish Goldstein Lawyers to capitalize on this.

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT RTG
ALL I FUCKING WANT IS PLAYABLE 4K HIGH/ULTRA FROM A SINGLE CARD WITHOUT SPENDING A FORTUNE
AND YOU GIVE ME THIS BULLSHIT
NOT EVEN BETTER THAN A 1080 AND IT'S MORE FUCKING EXPENSIVE?!?!

>>61929580
it is not bait and switch. It would be if there was only one product. Packs is separate product.

>>61929588
Apparently new magic drivers will fix it.
But even with 12 months of delays, they apparently still couldn't enable any of the new features, so it's really just a FuryX with a higher clockspeed...

>>61929588
it is one hair better than 1080.
Wanna me send you one from russia? it's only 42k RUB here.

>>61929577
Desperate times, dude. AMD's GPU division is being murdered by miners right now. Their entire business is being destroyed. If they don't do something to stop miners they're not going to exist when the mining bubble pops. They NEED gamers to get their cards. So much so that they're willing to do this shit.

>>61929580
Nah, they probably consulted lawyers before doing it. The argument "well the card is $499, just it comes with $120 of games, for a mere $100 extra" works pretty well when backed up by lawyers.
An alternative would be to release drivers that nerf mining (and I think this is what they should have done), but miners would just use the old drivers and still hoover up the stock.

>>61929597
They baited by telling people a $499 would be available.
It isn't. Since it was limited to very small quantities for launch only (no restock)
They are forcing you to Switch to the Radeon Black Pack for an extra $100 if you want to actually buy the $499 GPU.

Classic Bait and Switch.

>>61929588
>how dare them not fulfilling my desires

>>61929610
you are shit at law, anon

>>61929612
I was legitimately looking at Vega 56 if drivers actually do boost performance somewhat in the next few months, but after this? Fuck that.

>>61919399
Lol these tech reviewers are a joke
noone runs gpus stock when mining. 580 gets over 30mh when bios fiddled with and optimized for less power than stock settings. 1070 easily gets 31-32 at 100 watts for example

>>61923939
This
Vega is one hell of a workstation card, repurposed to a decent gaming card

>>61923939
Lol. The hoops AMD fags have to jump through to justify this abortion.

It competes barely with entry level Quaddro cards, and Teslas shit all over the very best AMD.

We REALLY don't want to talk about CUDA vs Open CL.

AMD wouldn't make a dent in professional markets with out Apple propping them up because Nvidia is so shitty to do business with.

AMD competitive with this failure of an architecture.... HA!

>>61929620
>laws have loop holes
Doesn't make it less of a scummy move. Defend your pajeet company all you want, they fucked up.

>$499 plus tax is "under $500"
>nevermind goy now it's $599

>>61930142
>$699 goy? perfect, it's only $799

>>61930200
>here your RX Vega 64 Liquid™ for $899

>>61929964
He's going all out.

>>61919062
just wait for mining programs to optimize for it.

>>61919399
>1080 is slower than 1070
nvidigoy on suicide watch.

>>61930534
GDDR5X have a higher latency

>>61930615
>>61930534
gddr5x is used to mine zec and you actually get 2-3x the profit/day over a 580 with a 1080ti

Surprised people arnt being more cynical, this could just be a retailer justifying their price gouging.

they just fucking listed vega 64 preorders in romania.
4299 RON = 1103.67 US Dollars

>>61929485
Are you pretending to be autistic?

>>61930915
https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/sapphire/radeon-rx-vega64-8g-hbm2/

>>61930954
we get them monday, we also got game packs with it but no idea about those prices, I wonder if the fact that games here cost 2k RUB is considered or not, pack might be a much better deal than just a card in russia
if only reference design had better coolers, i'd snatch one for 40k RUB(1080 starts at 46k to 65k)

>>61930990
>design had better coolers, i'
they're preorders, "available in 5 days"

what a retarded fucking launch
also, fuck the EU

>>61930990
and yeah, i already ordered the 1080 ti yesterday
3600 RON, 923 USD

and then they serve us this vega 64 at 4300 ron horseshit. we're fucked either way

>>61931017
1080ti start at 60K, 15 more than normal 1080 - not worth it

>>61931010
649€ for air cooled
749€ for liquid cooled
in germany since yesterday.

>>61930915
> romania
Just steal it.

>>61931058
unfortunately, only gypos and the government are thieves here

i just have to work and pay for them, apparently

>>61929605
>AMD's GPU division is being murdered by miners right now.
> selling out of all their cards
>bad for amd
haha

>people seriously want to support AMD
Why?
What's so good about getting scammed every single time and be a loser who waste money?

>>61931119
prepare for nvidia going out of stock, zec is more profitable now

Does anyone else remember how /g/ repeatedly said that miners wouldn't buy Vega at all? I do, why is this board so delusional?

>>61931123
amdtards have stockholm syndrome

>>61931188
i personally know lots of retards that are also miners. they buy everything

Where are all the shills that said FE wasn't a gaminh card and gaming drivers would fix all of Vega's problems? Why is this board plagued with AMD shills? I knew RTG was lying about gaming drivers, yet the retards here believed them. I fucking hate this board, everything people here said about Vega was false yet you'll never hear anyone admit it. Its just shills vs. shills.

>>61931362
well, that fact that FE p6000 level is not false
56 beats 1070, there was hope 56 will equal 1080, in some games it does
64 = 1080
it didn't beat 1080ti, there was hope for that

what was lied about? prim shaders still do not work and drivers are alpha masked as beta
launch is shit per usual AMD tradition, hardware is okay

>>61931362
/g/ has always been biased towards amd. It's just that they released somhow competetive cpu for the first time in 6 years and all the underage b& from r/amd migrated here. You can spot them by how they bitch about shitposting completely unaware of the amounts of shitposting nvidia and intel got in the past but nobody complained.

>>61929604

I bet you'd use that money on mahorka and krokodil.

>>61931425
you grow mahorka yourself and roll it in yesterday newspaper, filthy capitalist swine

>>61929604
1080Ti is from 43K rub on CU.

>>61931418
I don't understand why people here support AMD whem their marketing is usually as scummy as Nvidia or Intel. Polaris was pretty bad, the card was good for price to performance but the marketing was awful.
>480 is a 1070 killer
>Crossfire 480's is better than a 1080!
Even before Ryzen with the 200 and 300 series a lot of their marketing was sketchy. It's annoying how people have formed a narrative on here that AMF are the good guys and Intel and Nvidia are the bad guys, it clouds everyone's judgement.

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>>61929964
Nice totally evidence free shitpost.

On the other hand I can prove WX Vega will at the bare minimum trade blows with the Quadro P6000 for 1/3 of the price.

>>61931517
>same post
>same graph
>probably the same resident pajeet

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>>61918593
>true pricing scheme revealed only after reviews were published

This is some underhanded bullshit.

>>61931539
You get 2 """"""free"""""" games for $100 extra goy
Doesn't matter if you don't want them. It's a steal.

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>>61931479
55k with a deal
same one costs 47 in my shop
I'm not even looking at blower or cheap variants its not wroth it for any money.

prices in EU are fucked even more than in RU for once

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>>61931538
Unfortunately not that many testers have tested pro applications yet. Nonetheless the testing that has been done clearly shows Vega FE Air trading blows with the P6000, much less Vega WX.

>>61927244

Wait are those numbers real? I mainly play Rainbow Six Siege and have to turn down everything to get 144fps. The Vega 56 might be good for me (when drivers are mature and prices have halved)

>Australian shitposting shill exposed as a shill
>AMDrones flock to defend him
(lol

>>61921781

This. It overclocks pretty nice (meaning stability-wise) while even undervolting it. The fans are superquiet.

>>61928160
1998

I like his JCPenney suit

>>61931864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6UJRNDOyHs

That's where those numbers are from. Unfortunately undervolting and overclocking were only sort of sometimes working on review drivers and is only still barely working now, even so, an undervolted and OC'd Vega 56 should pretty much tie a stock Vega 64 Air in every game.

Gamers Nexus got their Vega 56 to so from a Firestrike score of ~18k to a score of ~22k at ~230 watts by overclocking memory to 950-980mhz, increasing power target by 50% and undervolting to 1.080v.

And note that all of this is on basically half finished drivers, so Vega 56's advantage vs the 1070 is only going to go up from here.

g-guys what if the extra features like hbcc when enabled makes the 56 1080 tier and the 64 almost 1080ti tier? it justifies the increased price r-right? right?

>>61931888
I was exposed, wut?

>>61918593
Might as well raise the price $200 and soak the miners. Consumers won't get them anyways.

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>>61932377
Really interesting results.

>>61933428
I expect GN to get better results that Joker did as GN already showed they can get their Vega 56 to 950 or even 980mhz on the HBM2 vs the 900mhz Joker got.

Would be nice if someone got Hardware Unboxed to run the 25 game gamut with an undervolted and overclocked Vega 56.

In my european cunt 1080 windforce OC / asus turbo / founders edition is 660 USD

Meanwhile Vega 64 is 750 USD

Why do they even bother making GPUs at this point?

I think it's fair to assume the 1080ti wouldn't have happened or happened as fast if it weren't for the Vega threatening nvidia. Something good still came out of it. Sad part is all the video cards being so fucking overpriced cause of mining right now. A 1080 used to cost around what a 1070 is now.

Any bets on how fast these cards go out of stock next round?

>>61934121
There are countries where Vega wasn’t even available at launch

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>>61934121
Like, two seconds. Max. Bundles sold out in half a day.

>>61934019
>as fast
It came out like 8 months later though. Its funny how many people on /g/ said "wait for 1080ti" expecting to wait only 3 months or something.

Invest in crypto or inverst in AMD because cryptofags will buy all their stocks?
https://www.coindesk.com/amd-releases-new-software-package-cryptocurrency-mining/

>>61919025
> The bundles are a jew move but the excuse is they are trying to make is so the card makes it to some gamers. Still the bundles look like crap.

Correct. All they have to do is strike terms of supply whereby it can only be sold 1count per customer and set strict rules on pricing. (They) RTF are allowing and enabling this fiasco and its all because of myopic profits.

>>61919399
>Fury X doing so well
I keep getting told to mine. Is there any actual benefit or is the likelihood of actually seeing money out of it just a meme?
No, I don't need to buy a new card, I already have a custom watercooled Fury X

>>61934121
When is the next wave of stocks? One particular store keeps restocking the fucking $1000 bundles

>>61918593
FIRE RAJA

>>61918593
Economics for a 4th grader

>Product can be made at certain rate
>initial price reflects stock on hand for launch sale
>product sells out
>demand higher than supply
>price goes up to balance

Either the retailers increase prices or scalpers begin to charge $600, $700, $800, who knows how much to the demanding customers on resale sites.

Also Gibbo from ocUK is a manipulator and a fucking piece of shit liar. Cunts take him as gospel there while he makes conflicting statements and passes them as fact.

>>61935341
Vega sold out almost everywhere instantly. Next restock will be the same story. Raja is probably snorting cocaine off a hooker's back somewhere.

>>61935341
>has film camera monopoly shilling for pro ssg
>made Vega FE competitive against quadro p6000
>shits on retarded gamers while selling out rx vega to miners within moments of launch

Raja is probably getting blowjobs from Lisa's wife

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>>61934143
>Bundles sold out in half a day.
You can still get bundles on newegg

>>61918593
Will partner cards be cheaper or more expensive since they rice them out with fans.?

>>61935498
Some will probably be cheaper and others more expensive. But it wont matter much because they'll all get sold out in a matter of minutes.

>>61935498
there won't be any pakcs, and demand will subdue a bit probably around 430 for 56 which is good
if aibs do vega right they will OC memory and won't touch GPU to keep tdp in check it going to gain not 10 but 20 percent on 1070

but who am I kidding, miners will buy them all anyway

on the side note, where are all the cyberpunk faggots? are you happy now?
it can't get anymore cyberpunk with fale virtual money
can't wait when all those miners get taxed to 9th circle of hell

>>61918593
>What a mess

Miners. Its all sold out that I can see also.

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>>61935622
>there won't be any pakcs
wtf really?

>>61935749
>>61935366
NOP

https://videocardz.com/blog/all-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-sins
>In reality, there are countries where Vega wasn’t even available at launch

>Normally we get to see a variety of custom cards at launch. Of course, they are never available for sale, but this time we only saw ONE custom design by ASUS. No other partner was ready. What this means is that partners were not given enough time to prepare their cards. According to our source, the engineering boards were given to partners in June. That’s really late. As a result, we are not seeing more prototype designs at launch.

>>61921162
>blaming AMD for nJewia pricing
Besides, even if Vega 64 was two 1080Ti for $50, it would drive down prices thanks to miners.

>>61931119
>he doesn't understand how a failing business works
Lul

>>61935840
>In reality, there are countries where Vega wasn’t even available at launch
Like? Did they forget Poland?

Fuck this. Fuck AMD. Fuck miners. I just bought the 1080ti.

>>61935496
Yes, there's 9 of the bundles still available on day 3. Next time, it won't even be two days before they sell out.

>>61936158
>selling out
>"failing"
>m-muh mining bubble
>gonna burst any second now

http://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/amd-stock-price-cryptocurrency-mining-wont-be-a-long-term-growth-driver-2017-7-1002206475

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nvidia-more-bullish-on-cryptocurrency-than-amd-2017-08-10

https://news.bitcoin.com/russia-discusses-starting-cryptocurrency-mining-with-its-20-gigawatt-surplus/

>>61932377

That are some pretty interesting results. Will keep a close eye on future reviews.

>>61937534
>That are some pretty interesting results. Will keep a close eye on future reviews.
Yeah, it needs way more testing as the drivers are still half finished at best and there are a crap ton of bugs still. It will be interesting to see what results are obtained trying the same thing on Vega 64 Air and Liquid as well, but no one seems to have tried it on Vega 64 yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1JxvN_2i6c
Vega 56 is pretty good, OC the RAM only closes the performance difference between 56 and 64 to 11%, getting really close to the 1080 for $100 less

Is it going to be that bad, really? I'm looking at two Acer VA 144Hz monitors, and Freesync one is literally 1.5 times less expensive while using the same panel. I want to play it smart and save money, but I also don't want to buy a graphics card that will burn my house down, will be overpriced because of miners and will get obsolete the moment Volta releases.

>>61930915
Wew, and I thought Russian prices were bad!

Wait, you're a part of EU, can't you just drive to Germany or something and buy one cheaper, assuming it's in stock? I'm really not sure how this works.

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>>61931585
Wait, what?

>TFW sitting on a Fury X with custom loop and looking at Vega performance charts
>Fury X isn't too far behind
>Consider the fact that the latest games I bought in terms of release date were Fallout 4 and The Witcher 3
>Don't really play TW3 because it never really gripped me. Was happy to turn hairworks off anyway
>Used to play a lot of Fo4, but stopped not long ago. Was happy to force godrays off. Only occasionally have issues, and not as bad since I fiddled with some hidden settings
>Realise that I don't need a more powerful card just for Fallout

Feels pretty good desu. When I bought the Fury X, I knew there would eventually be a successor. I did expect it a lot sooner, because initially the expectation was that Polaris would have a Fury X successor, and Vega got pushed back and back and back.
Now looking at it, unless something amazing happens to the drivers and fixes a lot of issues with it, it seems like sticking to the Fury X was the best investment.

Definitely glad that I didn't try to sell my Fury X now. Would've been annoying to do so only to find out how much of a flop Vega is turning into.

>>61937878
this post was brought to you by amd

>>61938046
You can buy from online shops in other countries if they can ship it to you without extra taxes and bullshit.

>>61939302
Well then there's no reason to buy one in Romania, unless your postal service is really, really bad.

>>61937878
>getting really close to the 1080 for $100 less
You don't actually think you'll be able to buy a 56 without a Radeon Pack complete with two games you don't even want driving up the price to $499 do you?

>>61938130
What about other cards? like 580 vs 1060? maybe sellers just want to make some extra buck (or ruble) on people who want to grab the damn card, like hardcore AMD fans, for example.

>>61935426
What does Dan Whatshisname do? I've never seen any mention of his career. Is he just a househusband?

>>61918593
It would be sold at 499 or 599 or 999 so we never had a chance to get one. Let AMD jack the prices up so they can make up the R&D faster and give lower prices once the buttcoin fad dies again.

The one I ordered from Amazon finally got a delivery date.

>>61928196
so, its great for faggots

>>61935496
I can't find a single bundle with just the two games. Everything is over $1k and I can't afford that. I was going to sell my 480 on the secondary market after I got my Vega, but I can't afford a damned Vega at these prices.

It's really unfortunate for AMD that they employed whichever fuckstain thought those packs would be a good idea.

I'm an nvidiot and would never buy AMD, and I'd be fucking fuming if nvidia did something like that to me.

>>61930113
>Founders edition.

>>61919112
That's also the same guy who said that the card will mine at 100MH, wasn't it?

>>61943796
>founders edition with price out of ass
>nvidia did psu/motherboard/1060 packs
>geforce experience mandatory log in
>mandatory telemetry in drivers

that's just this year. Their cards just not in the crypto scope and it's not visible as much.

>>61921825
>the cheapest gigabyte 1070 sold in store
>2.15GHz and never past the 80's°
G-sync is fine if you can't reach your desired fps, if you can hit 60,120,144whatever always, then g sync is worthless
I like the PG278Q, I have it an am very happy

>>61918593
Why did AMD bought ATI
They're doing ok with the cpus, their gpus is ruining them

>>61937974
Uses the same panel but the refresh module is different, "to-freesync-spec" if amd and "g-sync licensed hardware" if nvidia
It's not the exact same hardware, it just does the exact same thing, and one is forcibly mandated while the other relies on asus or benq or something

>>61944017
Nah, stop

>>61944019
Literally 100% of those are optional
You want vega? You pay extra. There's no way around that, no amount of vega + aots and deus ex will mean shit if there isn't a $499 vega in existence

>>61944623
That's what they said, reversed, the last time they were struggling to be alive

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>>61944019
> Mandatory telemetry
Are you talking about geforce experience that you can uncheck during install?

Was holding out and looking forward to vega. Spent the last week doing research and awaiting launch+reviews.. Utter shit show launch and ridiculous power usage.
> Incomplete drivers
> Amateur hour compute stack that I'm not sure I can rely on for dev
> Marketed features (FP16) that aren't even accessible and no comments about it
> Incompatible with a number of compute platforms
> Pricing scams
> Short supply
> Spacing card launches by 2 weeks. 28th is likely to be an equal shit show

Just felt nasauted thinking about it anymore. Paid $100 above suggested MSRP for a 1070 new from newegg (fuck you miners) and grabbed my second 1070. Will now have a card for my new build and can continue w/o worry of the software stack with my compute dev. May get a vega56 just to fuck around with but have no desire to do full time compute dev on a Radeon card. RTG looks and feels like amateur hour. Jensen Huang was right...
https://twitter.com/nvidiageforce/status/895746289589039104?lang=en

A huge weight was lifted off my shoulders tonight...
Thanks Nvidya

>>61944704
>Are you talking about geforce experience that you can uncheck during install?
no, i'm talking about mandatory telemetry that comes with nvidia drivers

>>61929610
>It isn't. Since it was limited to very small quantities for launch only (no restock)
I'm quoting from wiki with no source, so take it with a grain of salt:
>advertising a sale while intending to stock a limited amount of, and thereby sell out, a loss-leading item advertised is legal in the United States. The purveyor can escape liability if they make clear in their advertisements that quantities of items for which a sale is offered are limited, or by offering a rain check on sold-out items.
So if they mentioned it was limited stock, they'd be in the clear. If they didn't, then they fucked up.

>>61920004
>Nvidia go plz go. I want my amd card, jsut sit go and never leave go, I hope you go and always go.

You sound like an uganda boy who doesn't know how to "spik" but he went to murrica to wash dishes in some bad neighborhood dinner. Ironically, you're american.

>>61925354
>damaj
>cuntrul

This is how retarded you sound you fucking amd retard.

>>61931058
>yous romanian?
>yous all jipsies
>just steal it, it's that fucking easy
>jesus Christ, us high noble US citizens know so easily how to handle thy situation yet you romanians don't

You're fucking retarded.

>>61944756
You can remove it before install.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnUW9-aYtx4

>>61931407
>prim shaders still do not work
Yes they do

>>61925186
>Vega 56 slower than a 980 Ti
Jesus christ what a disaster, first the Fury X couldn't beat it and 2 years later the Vega struggles to.

>>61945913
>always behind a 1080

>>61945913
f-fine wine any day now

>>61945913
No card sold that can run Wildlands at 4k 60FPS, I bet even Titan Xp chugs on it. Better luck next year for 4k gaming with volta eh.

>>61945913
Man, 1080Ti is a fucking beast. Why do they even call it 1080Ti? They could just name it 1090.

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>>61918593
>What a mess

These cards are really priced all over the place.

MSI Radeon RX Vega 64 8G: $777
Sapphire RX Vega 8GB Black: $1160

None of these prices are anywhere near the $499 "launch price". I guess it's expected that these would be higher since these are fascist union prices - but not this much higher. And more interestingly, it looks like these cards are priced all over the place. Oh btw, none are in stock. Not sure if they ever were or if they just haven't gotten here yet. Other local sites do list them as "1000 arriving August 22" and things like that.

>AMD releases cards for more than the 1080
>only about as good as the 1080 under ideal conditions
>consumes twice as much power as the 1080 anyway

Is that the gist of it?

>>61944756
there's no telemetry in the drivers you retard. The telemetry is in Geforce Experience (TM) so they can better optimise their hardware for your vidjewo goyims.

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>>61918593
I'm buying regardless because I haven't upgraded since my 6970 and I am falling for the freesync meme.

I'll probably end up with a Vega 56.

None of you can stop me.

>>61947644
nah

>amd makes compute monsters
>engineers it completely past the games market
>games never will see it's true performance

>>61947881
>a.k.a the card is only good for mining

Nvidia are evils
AMD are evils and incompetent

>>61936186
I can't see any Vega for sale here in Brazil.

>>61944677
Yeah, but I'm questioning if it's even really necessary. I've never noticed tearing, but I've also never have a 144Hz monitor (well, I had a CRT but it was a long time ago). I'm fine with G-Sync monitors costing more, but usually they have other premium features like different panels, often Freesync is TN and G-Sync is IPS (though in this case I wouldn't want IPS anyway).

>>61947724
good luck finding one in stock for the first year or two, really

>Bought an R9 390 and a Freesync monitor two years ago
>Wanted to upgrade to Vega
>Vega is the biggest disappointment in the history of GPU releases

What do I do now? Guess I'll buy a GTX 1080.

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>>61948077
not even that, just some individual rendering and computing shit

>>61947724
>6970
I'm in the same boat as you, although in my country nvidia is hilariously overpriced and amd cards are sold out due to scalpers exporting to other countries.

>>61949665
Gsync has one feature current Freesync monitors don't have, Ultra Low Motion blur. ULMB is basically a backlight strober that emulates a CRT. It massively reduces motion blur caused by sample-and-hold from LCD, but is incompatible with Gsync and you really need to be running the game at 120Hz, any less and the image will experience more ghosting or crosstalk. Benq also has vendor neutral monitors with strobing. I think Samsung is releasing a Freesync 2 monitor with strobing but I'm not sure.

I think the worst part is that aftermarket cards won't be available for months

>>61950003
people think vega is shit, miners are returning their cards. they will be available, but better get one before AMD starts fixing their broken drivers

>>61950048
>miners are returning their cards
Sauce or it didn't happen.

>>61950003
early september.

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So happy that I got the 1070 when the price wasn't fucking stupid...

>>61950000
Oh, I read about ULMB. That does sound pretty good and compelling - I was planning to get a high-end Volta on release so 120+ FPS in most games at 1080p would be expected. Still feel kind of ripped off, but a bit less so. I wish Vega wasn't both underwhelming and in such high demand it goes way over MSRP, or maybe that 1440p panels weren't so universally disappointing.

>>61944756
Ummm... this :
>>61947680
>>61945027

This is a reminder me to ignore all the (open-source) shills as well....

>>61949760
I'm gonna get a 1080ti when I get a ryzen build

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3023-aib-partners-to-gn-yes-vega-price-will-change

YOU DUMB AYYMDPOOJEETS FELL FOR BAIT & SWITCH

>>61950996
>gamersnexus
Not a rumor mill ,Other then their legit actual product reviews, any other "news" from them i wouldn't take it has the truth,

>>61931123
Because supporting AMD allows them to better compete with Intel and Nvidia, giving the consumers more options and forcing both companies to continually improve their products.

>>61952326
So you suggest supporting AMD by buying their subpar products so that eventually Nvidia would release better products you actually want to use?

>>61952355
I would hope that both companies eventually create cards and processors that can smoke one another. All I really want is to have a choice between two companies rather than being limited to one.

>>61952426
Well Ryzen is good. I bought one. There's nothing we can do to make Vega less disappointing, though.

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>>61918593
YOU
CANT
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP