Wizards assemble!

>>61907876
[code[# parted /dev/sda
> mklabel gpt
> unit mb
> mkpart primary 0g 128
> mkpart primary 128 2048
> mkpart primary 2048 4096
> mkpart primary 4096 6000
> mkpart primary 6000 8000
> mkpart primary 8000 20000
> mkpart primary 20000 -1
> name 1 boot
> toggle 1 boot
> name 2 swap
> name 3 root
> name 4 home
> name 5 temp
> name 6 usr
> name 7 var[/code]

Who would actually partition their drive like this?

>>61907944
You don't need to follow it to the letter.

>>61907876
The binaries are all out of date, it's only good as a source based distro

>>61907996
It's a source based distro.

>>61907876
Wizards KYS!

>>61907944
It's meant to be an example.

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>>61907944
>he doesn't have a 1TB /var partition

Post from an earlier thread:

>Ok, I've made a super simple installation on my thinkpad, if anyone is curious:
>Used parted

# parted /dev/sda

>Inside parted

mklabel msdos
unit mb
mkpart primary 0g 128
mkpart primary 128 -1
toggle 1 boot
p free
quit

>Yes, is only two partitions but it works to test sourcemage, also everything is ext4

# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2
# mkdir /mnt/drive
# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/drive
# mkdir /mnt/drive/boot
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive/boot
# wget "http://download.sourcemage.org/image/official/smgl-stable-0.61-basesystem-x86_64.tar.bz2";
# cd /mnt/drive
# tar xvjf /root/smgl-stable-0.61-basesystem-x86_64.tar.bz2
# mount --bind /dev /mnt/drive/dev
# mount --bind /sys /mnt/drive/sys
# mount -t proc none /mnt/drive/proc
# mount -t devpts none /mnt/drive/dev/pts

>So far nothing new, but what I've had to do is specify Bash on the chroot because the live USB I've used had a retarded shell

# chroot /mnt /bin/bash

>Now you have to change your root password, TEST IF YOUR KEYBOARD HAS ALL THE CORRECT MAPPINGS before you change the password

# passwd root

>Next I change the network interfaces

# nano /etc/network/interfaces

auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

>Set the name server (is from OpenNIC if you are curious)

# nano /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver 193.41.79.236

>Changed the fstab

# nano /etc/fstab

/dev/sda1 /boot ext4 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda2 / ext4 noatime 0 1

devpts /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs size=128m 0 0

>Set the bootloader

# nano /etc/lilo.conf

boot = /dev/sda
root = /dev/sda2

# lilo -A /dev/sda 1
# lilo

>Change the keymaps

# ls /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty
# nano /etc/sysconfig/keymap

KEYMAP=uk

# exit
# reboot

>Done.

figured it might be useful to someone

install gentoo

>>61908411
>python clusterfuck of a distro
no thanks

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have some fresh smgl rice

>>61908843
They added the logo?

>>61908935
yeah, a couple of weeks ago

>>61907876
installing smgl tomorrow on my pentium 4

>>61908843
They added the logo!

>>61908843
pape pls

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>>61909899

>>61909914
thank you kind anon

>>61907944
Who would physically assign partitions instead of using LVM in 2017?

Any tips on making spells other than the official page?

>>61909978
Use simple existing ones as examples or templates.

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Install Source Mage GNU/Linux
>>61909914
saved

>>61908843
That's pretty fucking neat anon. What font are you using?

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>>61910115

>>61910098
thanks
I'm using sgi-haebfix
you can get it here https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts

>>61910140
>https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
That whole page is gold, thank you.

>>61909970
Why should I use LVM for no reason?

>>61911171
It deprecates physical partitions.
>no reason
Except the benefits of having dynamic partitions.

Gonna try this out today.
What should I be aware of?

I'm on vacation but when I get home I'm doing this up on a VM, and if I end up liking it it will go onto my Thinkpad.

>>61911750
>>61911796
Go for the testing chroot image, since stable is pretty old at this time.
Be sure to use eudev instead of udev, since the newer udev is a part of systemd (you should be able to still use udev in stable).
Compile the newest kernel from kernel.org.
If you've got the filesystem driver in the kernel and you're not planning on encrypting your partitions, using RAID or LVM, you probably don't need an inital ramdisk image.
Just compile the kernel, put it in /boot and install the modules in /lib/modules and make sure to add it in your bootloader if it doesn't automatically detect it.
When compiling xorg, be sure to choose dri in the build type query and x11 and drm in the EGL platforms query, also select llvm to be used when you get asked about that, because it's needed for something.
Use python3 for meson (xorg dependency).
Be sure to do leave the devpts line in the fstab like here >>61908395.
Init scripts are in /etc/init.d/runlevels, you can start/restart/stop them like so

# /etc/init.d/runlevels/%3/network restart

Most of the important stuff is in %3.
Networking is like in older Debian versions, you have the /etc/network/interfaces file, you've got ifconfig and ifup and ifdown commands.
It's easy, you should figure it out, there's documentation on the Debian wiki.
Using just wpa_supplicant for wifi would make potential problems easier to diagnose.
Restart the network script when you edit the interfaces file.
You can check all the interfaces names in /sys/class/net/
Be sure the ones that show up there are the ones in the interfaces file.
Also make sure that the right wifi interface is in /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant
wpa_supplicant is well documented, you can check the Debian wiki or the Arch wiki for example
For wifi you need both the kernel driver (e.g. iwlwifi for intel) and the firmware.
See https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Iwlwifi#Firmware
Gentoo wiki is quite useful for kernel configuration.
Install the which command.

Seem good

>>61907944
it makes sense for a server, in fact I've seen partitioning like this as part of PCI compliance best practices because it can avoid issues where your DB/website/mail (var), global writable /tmp, or user directory will bloat to the point of affecting other critical services.

Boot partition was very popular back in the day.

>>61907876
I do appreciate your attention to magickal metaphors, but don't trust you yet.

>>61912137
thanks, anon

>>61912137
why should I switch from my custom LFS install to source mage? I have a lenovo miix and every distro is broken on it so I have to run a custom kernel.

I've tried source mage on my laptop, unfortunately, I can use only wifi with laptop and was unable to set it up...
I guess I'm too stupid without systemd

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>40 replies/16 posters

>>61911304
Isn't it better to use btrfs for such a purpose?

>>61913776
dumb frobposter

>>61913620
source mage is basically lfs with a package manager
>I have to run a custom kernel
you can do that on any distro

>>61913644
see >>61912137

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>>61908843
nicely themed.
Source Mage really lends itself well to ricing

>>61914903
Say rather that you have nothing better to do, fucking neets.

>>61915037
the same could be said for most free software contributors

>>61913776
all me

>they've implemented their own init scripts system
>>/trash/

>>61915289
>being a systemd cuck

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>>61907876

>>61907876
Are you a wizard?

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>>61917229
yes

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>he came into my thread, nothing to fear nothing to hide
>attached a rare, smug, pepe, ready for a fight
>He asked me: best lightweight distro, and easy to use?
>I told him: Source Mage, faggot, GNU/Linuuux
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

>>61908014
But they also provide precompiled binaries like gentoo

>>61917377
yeah, but what's the point in using anything precompiled on a source based distro, except the browser perhaps

>>61917393
It's convenient for programs that are huge to compile like firefox or libreoffice

>>61914058
how so?

>>61910506
This pic brings back nice memories.

>>61907876
>GPL
>Freedom

Yeah, no. GPL is restrictive, and decidedly against what most would consider to be elements of what we call freedom.

>>61919002
you're in the wrong place, corporate shill faggot

>>61917430
Firefox took like 10-15 min to compile on my t420

>>61917430
>installs gentoo
>don't compile his programs
embrassing

>>61919002
>he fell for the "restrictive" and "permissive" brainwashing buzzwords

The only "restriction" in the GPL is to keep a program free as in freedom.

>>61919682
>the only restriction is to force people to do something

Nice.

>>61919750
>I'm feeling opressed.
>>>/tumblr/

>>61919750
no one's forcing you to use gpl, faggot

>>61919783
>no one is forcing you to live in the communist country, so that country embraces freedom

>>61919804
what the fuck are you talking about
are you mentally challenged?

>>61919002
>>61919804
>eh punk, how can you call it freedom when niggers are running around everywhere and we're not allowed to enslave them? where is my freedom to own a nigger? that's not the american dream my grandpa died for, damn jewish communist

>>61910140
>>61910218
You should shill this page a little bit on /fglt/ and whenever a font / rice thread is created.

>>61913776
>oh no ! people are having a discussion !

>>61919043
nice

Arch is just a stepping stone.

Towards source magic.

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>>61907876
redpill me on sourcemage. Why should i give a shit?

>>61926358
if you love bash, youll love smgl

>>61926358
>Why should i give a shit?
becuse it's a fun and interesting distro

>>61919002
Get a life nigger

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>>61926358
Because deep down every hacker wants to be the wizard of their own box and Source Mage is "so advanced it might as well be magic"

>>61908843
Jesus Christ that font is awful.

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/r/equest: some anon who knows how to contact the FSF and inform them about the existence of Source Mage GNU/Linux so they may add it to the FSF approved freetard distro list.

It would be a great archivement for /g/ and a greater archivement for mankind.

good thread

>>61927561
Which talk was this? Looks hilarious so I'd like to check it out.

>>61926449
sorry for the question, but why?

>>61919038
>corporate shill
>>61919783
>faggot
>>61919818
>mentally challenged
>>61927138
>nigger

Not even in the same country as an argument. It's nice to see that someone pointing out a reasonable objection to the license is met only with bigotry and name-calling.

Consider using MIT instead for any future projects.

>>61929558
The FSF won't approve of the fact that they offer an optional nonfree repo.

Same reason they wouldn't add Debian.
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html
>Debian's Social Contract states the goal of making Debian entirely free software, and Debian conscientiously keeps nonfree software out of the official Debian system. However, Debian also provides a repository of nonfree software. According to the project, this software is “not part of the Debian system,” but the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers, and people can readily find these nonfree packages by browsing Debian's online package database and its wiki.
>There is also a “contrib” repository; its packages are free, but some of them exist to load separately distributed proprietary programs. This too is not thoroughly separated from the main Debian distribution.
>Previous releases of Debian included nonfree blobs with Linux, the kernel. With the release of Debian 6.0 (“squeeze”) in February 2011, these blobs have been moved out of the main distribution to separate packages in the nonfree repository. However, the problem partly remains: the installer in some cases recommends these nonfree firmware files for the peripherals on the machine.
>Debian's wiki includes pages about installing nonfree firmware.

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Imagine if your hobby was configuring your OS.

>>61929558
To be added to that list needs to ship with the linux-libre kernel by default, that's it.

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>>61932898
SMGL has a separate repo that hosts recipes for installation.
These spells ARE NOT included in their main repo and the distro IS NOT hosting nonfree binaries in any of their servers.

They only need the linux-libre kernel.

>>61907876
If you want an entirely GNU system, try GuixSD. It's not 100% ready for production yet but it's the future of GNU and operating systems in general with a declarative, one file configuration of your entire system. It also obsoletes GnuPG signatures, makes reproducible builds dead simple, and there's no more broken software or reinstalling. If your update fucks your system you can easily roll it back to a previous snapshot.

Speaking of snapshots, they don't work like VM snapshots. You don't save gigs worth of "virtual files system" it's just a text file that describes the current state of your system. What this means is you can reproduce your system anywhere with just a pile of text files.

Highly recommend, no systemd either

>>61934696
What you say is nice and all but is not a granular control, it does control a lot though. As SMGL is all done in Bash obviously everything is text files too, the next step would be saving specific configs from the sorcery package manager (although I suspect current configuration is already saved somewhere) to have reproducible builds too.

>>61932249
I'm calling you a retard because this post
>>no one is forcing you to live in the communist country, so that country embraces freedom
makes absolutely no sense in respect to software licensing
I doubt that even you yourself know what you were trying to say
and spewing nonsense is a common trait among mental handicaps

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I see love in here

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>>61938333

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>>61939099

>>61934696
>guile
no thanks I'd rather stick to easy bash

>>61930362
good post

>>61929517
jesus christ that post is awful

>>61942219
good reply

>>61907876
How do the docs compare to gentoo and arch? Last time I checked arch was still the best docs.

hmm

>>61945923
The SMGL specific docs are good enough.
You can use the Arch wiki for everything else.

So, can I install from an existing distro and how? Or do i have to do that whole usb thing again?

>>61947684
>So, can I install from an existing distro and how?
Yes.
I installed it from Arch and now I'm dual booting SMGL and Arch.
If you need to change the size of your existing root partition, you've gotta do it from a live usb, because the root partition has to be unmounted for you to resize it.
I just had to unmount /home and reduce it's size to make space.

I have become very impatient, so I will continue to use Arch.

>>61948379
Arch is for the peons.
Use Source Mage if you want to join the high overlords.

can I still using yaourt in this distro?

>>61950394
underrated

>>61950454
There's no need, you have sorcery.

>>61950454
Sure, sorcery works by compiling software so is like you install stuff manually, except by the hassle.

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>>61907876
Asked in /fglt/ already but might as well ask here too

Can I install Source Mage on a Raspberry Pi? I know I can put a LFS build on it, so I assume Source Mage is also doable.

>>61952421
>Can I install Source Mage on a Raspberry Pi?
I don't see why you couldn't.
>LFS
As this fella here mentioned >>61914854, Source Mage is basically LFS with a package manager.

>>61952671
Cheers

>>61952421
I am trying this too! Probably takes using the kernel for raspi.

>>61953277
Yep,
>>61952421
this is the kernel you need, according to the gentoo wiki https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux

>>61953325
Not sure, but isn't the bootloader somewhat different?

>>61954076
Apparently yeah, I've never used an rpi, so I never looked into that stuff.
It would take us the same ammount of time to google and go through forums and whatnot, so I leave you to it.

Anyone porting to Odroid? Here is an interesting article https://magazine.odroid.com/wp-content/uploads/ODROID-Magazine-201702.pdf#page=6

Gonna try porting Source Mage.

There are three things you need when porting SMGL:
1 the appropriate kernel, because drivers
2 tweak the bootloader
3 you need an archspec for the architecture

The archspec is a particular file telling sorcery architecture specific flags for the compiler to use. The one I plan to use on a odroid c2 is

CFLAGS="-march=armv8-a+crc -mcpu=cortex-a53+simd -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8 -mabi=lp64 -fexpensive-optimizations -funsafe-math-opt -O3 -fPIC -g"

You can see which flags to use here https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html

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alias cls='clear'

>>61955090
just use ctrl-l

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>>61955090
>>61955619
Relevant picture

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>>61956725
>not using the superior vi editing mode in readline

>>61957058
Nice!

>>61957132
Look into readline and .inputrc.
You can use

set -o vi

to set the vi editing mode (you can put it into .bashrc), but I suggest you use .inputrc.
You can use .inputrc to bind macros and do all kinda nifty stuff.

>>61907876
It's literally gentoo but shitty.

>>61957397
Do you like being wrong?

test

>>61957132
Here's my .inputrc if you're interested: https://pastebin.com/r612QdVV
I can't post it here because 4chan is dumb
>Your IP or IP range is blocked from accessing 4chan.
it's not though

>>61957399
No. That's why I'm always right.

>>61957528
le internet tough guy

>>61957400
did it work?

>>61958702
no

How good will the battery life and performance of my T420 be with this?

>>61958938
Depends entirely on what kinda system you build.
If you're using heavyweight programs, it'll be short.
If you're using lightweight programs, it'll be longer.
If you're using xfce, it'll last as long as it'd last with xubuntu.

>>61959202
If I just install a tiling window manager and lightweight browser?

>>61959202
Will it support the media keys and thinklight?

>>61959236
You seem to be under the impression that different distros are somehow fundamentally different from each other and therefore they must have different battery life and performance.
The only difference between distros are:
>the package management system
>package repositories
>update cycle (is it rolling release, etc)
>the packages they ship by default
>"sensible" configurations of some programs provided by the distro maintainers
>compiled features for some programs
Source Mage one of those distros that, like Arch and Gentoo provides only the base system, the bare minimum the distro mainteners think you'll need to go from there and build and tailor your system to your needs.
So there's not a lot of packages that ship with it by default.
The base Source Mage system is not much different from a base Arch, Debian or Gentoo system or any other.
Source Mage with i3 is not much different from Arch with i3.
So, the only differences in battery life and performance would be negligible and they would depend on the kernel configuration or the init system (I'm sure that systemd does more work than init scripts, even though it's negligible).
Unlike Arch and Gentoo, SMGL it doesn't provide any "sensible" configurations.
Everything is left as is default in the upstream and there are no choices made for you by the distro maintainers.
Also, unlike binary distros like Arch, SMGL allows you to fine-tune your software during compilation.
You can choose to compile in less features for some programs and that might result in longer battery life.
But even that would in most cases be negligible.
Your software choices make the greatest impact on performance and battery life.
If you're using mpv a lot, it depends on your mpv config.
Using a compositor would reduce your battery life more than not using a compositor.
Huge difference in running GNOME vs just running i3.
You can also look into TLP or Laptop Mode Tools to improve your battery life.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP

>>61959325
If you enable thinkpad ACPI drivers in your kernel, thinklight and brightness controlls wil work.
Media keys have nothing to do with the kernel and they will either work by default with a DE or you need to bind them in your WM config.

>>61959325
>>61959236
All that depends solely on your decisions.
You can make SMGL be whatever you want.
And that's the whole point of distros like that.
Asking questions like that makes no sense at all, because the answers depend on your choices.

>>61959615
Are they available open source?

>>61959697
Thinkpad ACPI drivers?
They come with the kernel tarball.
You just need to make sure they're enabled in the kernel config before compiling.

>>61907876
This sounds like LFS for noobs

>>61959710
But are they open source?

>>61959755
It's LFS with a package management system.

>>61959755
LFS?

>>61959762
Yes.

>>61959778
Thanks.

Is the x86_64 version 64-bit?

>>61959796
Yes.

>>61959821
Should I take devel or test?

>>61959764
Slackware, then?

>>61959874
Take the test chroot image.
The ISO guide is currently outdated.
Follow the instructions as depicted here >>61907876, here >>61908395
and here http://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot.
Remember, <inser search engine here> is your friend.

>>61959877
I said LFS **with** a package manager.

>>61959877
I was going to ask how this distro stacks up to Slackware
>one of the oldest and cleanest distros
>stable and time-tested
>great number of packages

>>61959974
Slackware is not a primarily source based distro.
It doesn't have an interactive package manager that lets you choose compile flags and asks you what featurs you want to enable/disable, what deps you want to use, etc.
Slackware has it's own repos, while SMGL gets everything from the upstream.
Source Mage exists since 2002.
Stability mostly depends on the upstream and your own decisions.
Adding new spells is easy.

>>61960020
that was informative, thanks anon.

though, Slackware packages do offer compile flags; it's as interactive as it needs to be imo.

>>61957448
thanks anon

>>61957397
smgl was made before gentoo