Can the internet stay free?

>>61906138
No, we're fucked. We've been fucked.

It's already happening.
You can't even hold a negative opinion on gays without committing social suicide.

this is why we need to fight back from the oppressive liberals

yesterday Jason Kessler got attacked and had to flee from a lawfully permitted panel, the police did nothing and the people were not arrested. the left cheered this as good, because "fuck nazis" right? well im sure theyll care once it starts happening to people they agree with. its a dangerous precedent to set

Stop supporting products that do instead of being a battered housewife.

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>>61906242
>holding a negative opinion on gays

>>61906242
>watching twitch
>use the word fag in a friendly manner
>get permabanned by the broadcaster

boy do I know it

>>61906273
I'm legitimately curious what assassinating a bunch of wrongthinkers would get from the media.

>>61906138
Suddenly those evil /pol/ nazis don't sound that insane amirite?

>>61906365
gays aren't cute in real life
stop posting

>>61906341
>launch a free and independent website on a banned topic
>will never show up on search results
>will never be accepted by domain registry
>will never be accepted by hosting companies
>can never post about it on social media

Okay, I'll post pieces of paper with an IP address around the neighborhood. Fuck those evil companies, right?

What's next on the list of wrongthink topics now that being conservative is verboten?

>>61906537
>anything bad about islam (probably banned in europe first)
>anything bad about gays
>anything bad about trannies
>anything about evolutionary biology
>anything good about white guys, religion, or traditional life

>>61906505
That's not true if they're cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZLuJwwnGpU

>>61906537
Moderates would be next on the line

>>61906138
Who gives a shit? It's just internet.

>Can the internet stay free?

The Internet was never free you turbo dingus.

>>61906138
Saw a post earlier about a distributed/self-run FOSS search engine. Anyone have info on that?

>>61906583
Sound argument. Caring is for faggots, lmao.

>>61906562
Its a mental illness that we foster because of them piggy-backing off of civil rights in the 60s.

Instead of making gay marriage legal, they should've bumped up civil union rights to that of a marriage certificate and made marriage just a religious ceremony. Instead, we re-elected a moron because of these politrix.

>>61906537
>>61906537
The obvious conclusion.

Right or left. People will look for a place where they can be freely heard and express opinions.

The more the State revokes those basic rights under some bullshit "Business can do what it wants. Just use another business " (Because denying a cake or dress worked soooo well.)

So people will turn to "Free" software. Freedumbs will be revoked on software, the surveillance will begin anew with the "violent left/right" needing to be monitored.

More they monitor the more the resentment grows. More resentment means more NEED for free software and privacy/security. The State and the Media will crack down hard.

So all of /g/ loses, no matter the spectrum.

>>61906666
How do you ban free software?

>>61906640
Yeah that's a good idea about the civil union but it's not a 'mental illness' as it's not classified by the DSM-V which is an utter shitbook anyway.

It's just a fetish at worst and a union between two people at best. It's the other side of the same coin.

>>61906602
Searx?

>>61906697
fetishes used to be a mental illness too
honestly, it was just easier when these things were still in the DSM.

>>61906691
They'd do it through ISPs.

>>61906717
Why would you ban free software?

>>61906237
>nihilist

>>61906691
You make it difficult for normies to find and implement, thereby keeping a fringe tool that can never overpower government regulation. You make "safe" alternatives that are easy for normie. This is how netflix and itunes actually managed to succeed.

>>61906691
Never said banned. That'd be a bit much wouldn't it?

But ensuring that you can monitor and record everything (Patriot act) or even get your grubby mitts onto the source of anything that's a different story.

There's no need to ban everything, that'd be impossible to uphold. But allowing it to continue and gathering the information until we become full George Orwell.

Yes yes, source code can be checked because it's free. But do you think half these fucks check the source/kernel? Nope. Probably filled with backdoors or unsecure protocols.

Shit just look at the Intel Management chip

>>61906736
I don't understand what this has to do with free software.

>>61906138
>Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite? But what happens when other subjects start getting banned?
> Implying leftism isn't 21st century fascism and they won't start banning everything they don't like.

There's a reason why our founding fathers (who would be considered "far right" nowadays) were libertarian and hated leftists.

>it's a /pol/ attempts to talk about computers episode

>>61906711
Still doesn't help with the extreme cognitive dissonance these people go through to be in a relationship due to conflicting traditional viewpoints from society.

Doesn't really matter, they're leaving the gene-pool anyway. Maybe they'll pay a slave to have their baby from an Asian shithole, maybe they'll raise Steven or Jamal they adopted. Either way they're gone.

>>61906666
I think he's saying that all foss is a lie and all freedom software is a dormant botnet waiting to strike. Fair and reasonable.

>>61906697
They removed it in the 70s due to pop culture, but biology is the same today as it was then.

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It's actually a great thing. As we already knows the Internet sees censorship as a network issue and will route around it. In the end it benefits the whole network which will become more robust. And the undesirables will pave the way towards a truly free, anonymous, secure and distributed web.


>implying
I agree, stormweenies are probably too retarded to figure out how to make themselves uncensorable.

>>61906710
yeah that thanks

>>61906782
Biology is nearly the same as it was in Roman times and much longer before then. BIOLOGY isn't an argument.

>>61906717
Free software has lived before the Internet, it could survive through other networks, the sneakernet, and user groups.

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>>61906784
>stormweenies are probably too retarded to figure out how to make themselves uncensorable.

right? they actually thought being on godaddy was a good idea

>>61906772
Pretty much.

We lot can be paranoid and check the ports, firewalls, daemons, services, protocols, and source code all we like. But there's always suspicion to be had on something you can't verify. (Why I don't eat at fast food places)

The main issue is Normies. Honestly, have you ever tried to convince a normie not to use Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc? They accept censorship all too willingly, which will ENABLE more of it. They don't use IRC or check for security flaws, so everything becoming Corporate Proprietary bullshit won't phase them in the least.

>>61906734
We can always get unfucked, but I don't see it happening. I see civil war.

>>61906854
normie here
normie there
NORMIE HERE
NORMIE THERE

>>61906872
I assume the point of your post was to point out I used the term Normie?

I mean what else can I call them? Normie summarizes it pretty well. I suppose I could say "The technologically impaired" but that's a bit much to type for my lazy ass.

>>61906561
I need a janitor to clean up this hatespeech please

>>61906800
Look, its a mental disorder, period. Now I guess its called "gender dysmorphia", but its the same tree. And yes, biology is an argument because of our reproductive systems being what they are.

>>61906831
I agree, he was just asking how. I'm personally all for a cyberpunk future personally.

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>>61906958
It's not even in the DSM-V. We've been over this. You're opinion is literally subjective and not supported in anyway by literally anything other than it compromising a reliably small percentage of society.

Prove it's a mental disorder, you literally can't.

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>>61906138
You didn't listen.

>>61906986
>Know two Cyber security personnel who work at two different firms.
>Good guys. Know some shit.
>Still use all Social media, weak passwords, and implement patches without running them on a secured sandbox first.

I mean they're probably shit at what they do I know, but the point is that there aren't enough people like us for that to become anything more than a pipe dream. If people who know their shit ignore the risks what of the others who don't?

Think CCTV nanny state rather than good ol' cyberpunk.

>>61907012
/pol/ doesn't listen, they just tell, which they were told to do by their authority
they do what's fashionable at the moment

>>61906958
Gender Dysphoria isn't homosexuality. It's the rejection of your own body not what would be deemed natural sexual tendencies.

I have a theory that gender dysphoria is largely environmental. Ever notice how mtf always have fucked up parents?

Maybe my own genital dysphoria I experienced when I was five was caused by my mother's own sexual dysfunction and dysphoria towards penises or something just as weird. A five year old shouldn't feel extremely uncomfortable showing a bulge in a spiderman costume.

>>61906831
The actual sale of disks will be relevant again. People will buy black market dvds with forbidden freedomware. USB drives will be banned by the US post.

>>61906515
nigger just host one at home and on Tor

>>61906138
>Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite?
This. It's especially useful when those banning the nazis get to decide who's a nazi in the first place.

>>61906515
>Waaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaaah! Private corporations won't list my political website because they disagree! Muh rights! Muh rights!

This is a free market, dipshit. If you want it differently make it differently.

>>61907221
wtf i love google now

>>61907221
>T. some faggot who doesn't understand business or tech.

wEw

>>61907054
You're right, they're different. I was speaking in general regarding the term as it traces back in the DSM to what was originally Homosexuality.

Anyway, it isn't natural but rather environmental and pushes us further towards the fate of the Romans. Europe calls a spade a spade, and we fail to do that here.

>>61907221
>This is a free market, dipshit.
No it's not, retard. You're not free to hire who you want, you'r enot free to fire who you want, you're not even allowed to sell what you want to who you want. It's about as far as you can get from a free market.

>>61907268
Yeah, totally. I forgot we live in a totalitarian deep state, thanks for reminding me, you fucking exaggeratory nutcase. When is our great president finally releasing the assigned corporate production quotas for this year?

>>61907221
>don't like this international corporation making billions of dollars and millions in US grants using censorship and social enginerring
>LOL THEN MAKE A BUSINESS TO COMPETE WITH THEM
wow now I can change the world

>>61907221
So if Facebook started banning BLM pages would you just not give a fuck?

>>61907382
not to mention google has been CIA from day one

>>61906583
Woah, don't cut yourself on that edge now.

>>61906138
>Is anyone else worried?
They should be. This is how it starts.

>>61908093
Not him, but he's right y'know.

>>61908115
But he isn't though???

>>61906640
the only bad thing is the media giving attention to these mentally ill idiots. no one would care or even know about trannies or fags if the media didnt shitpost about them every day.

>>61906138
Everybody's already moving to TOR, i2p, and Urbit.

>>61910842
that's absolutely retarded when it's not a last resort as you're more easily slandered as a terrorist/pedophile, it's not nearly bad enough for that yet

>>61910942
Nah it's time. The normie web is for cucks, boomers, libshits, and retards now.

Best to move to anonymous, secure, and distributed platforms now, and en-masse, so there is momentum and so there will be broad resistance if (((they))) try to SHUT IT DOWN.

Also remember to run your shit on non-Intel architectures.

>>61906242
Good. That means our plan is working.

>>61906724
The same way we managed to get safety regulations on newer cars, market normal software as being the "safe, secure" version and make it seem like free software will fuck up your computer for good

>>61907005
>Prove it's a mental disorder, you literally can't.

>the ultimate goal of every individual in every species is to reproduce and pass down your genes
>due to changes in their brains homosexual units engage in mating that biologically can not lead to reproduction
>effectively it's a destructive behaviour that eliminates the individual's and reduces the species' chance of succeeding in survival
>a condition that reduces the chance of survival is illness
>an individual that does not contribute to the survival of the species is a parasite
>homosexual behaviour is caused by changes from the norm in the brain
>homosexuality is mental illness
>homosexuals are mentally ill parasites

>>61906138
Congrats, you've realized that any weapon you use can and will inevitably be used by your enemies.

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Everything is going according to plan.
The internet from the very beginning was probably thought out as a tool for societal control.
After being on 4chan since 05 it's clear this place is a psyop run by TBTB to gain intel on people and sway public opinion (psychic driving).
If you don't do something about this now your descendants will not only have to live with the burden of your failings, they probably won't even exist.

>>61912121
Not planning on having descendants, so that argument holds no sway with me.

>>61906666
Checked.
>forced to bake cake
>but others can revoke domain name for hurting someone's feelings

The double standards are endless.

>>61906242
This>>61906242

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>>61912036

>>61906458
Recommended viewing for any one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ACa539myFk

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I didn't realized that /g/ pro-nazi.
What happen with all those faggots who keep saying "my grandad fight in WW2"?

>>61912392
I didn't realize that anything to the right of antifa (which reminds my grandfather of the brown shirts, or so he says) was considered a Nazi.

>>61912410
In all fairness both sides do it (e.g. everyone right of Reagan is a commie, everyone right of Pol Pot is a nazi)

>>61912410
I don't give a shit about what's wrong or right, that still doesn't answer my question.
I'm just curious why /g/ suddenly pro-nazi like in OP statement.
NK or US can nuke each other tomorrow or Trump became the new Fuhrer, my view on the world wont changed.

>>61912442
It's just /pol/ leaking from it's containment board.

>>61912442
Neat. But the people you are calling Nazi's aren't National Socalists. You would need to combine Bernie Sanders with David Duke to get that.

You want me to be disgusted with those people? Ok. But I don't know anyone who is like that, and haven't seen anyone that is pushing for that shit.

I'm not overly political, and I'm sick of this shit infesting this board, but that's just the fact of the matter.

>>61912463
>But the people you are calling Nazi's
OP was making statement about NAZI site getting banned, not me.
Holy shit.

>>61912476
Seeing as how you didn't link a post, all I could do is go off of what you typed. I'm against National Socialism. I don't buy into the ideology. That said, any weapon that you use against an enemy will just be used by them when they inevitably achieve some sort of power. If you don't think Nazis should be able to censor you, then you shouldn't set the precedent by censoring them. I'm of the opinion that the ideology of any kind of socialism is stupid enough to where they should be allowed to say whatever they want. They discredit themselves.

>>61906752
They were libertarian because they had just been under an alt-right system and went overboard with the anti-authoritarianism.

>>61912497
>If you don't think Nazis should be able to censor you, then you shouldn't set the precedent by censoring them
We just going in circle here. >>61912392

>>61912511
How is this going in a circle? Me being against censorship doesn't mean that I support Nazis.

>>61912502
>current year minus 300
>alt-right
What?

>>61912456
The nazis were known to be anti censorship

>>61912392
The nazis were known for their opposition to censorship

>>61912522
What I'm saying that is /g/ was never pro-nazi, no matter the cost.
Nigger sayer, yes.
Misoginy, yes.
Goyim troller, yes.
>>61912534
>>61912546
You gotta be shitting me, Nazi germany was pro-freedum?
Like they never tried to burn shit they don't like?

>>61912534
>The nazis were known to be anti censorship

>>61912546
>The nazis were known for their opposition to censorship

Blatantly false, which is likely why you didn't cite a source for your claim.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/censorship-in-nazi-germany/

>Censorship was rampant throughout Nazi Germany. Censorship ensured that Germans could only see what the Nazi hierarchy wanted people to see, hear what they wanted them to hear and read only what the Nazis deemed acceptable. The Nazi police dealt with anyone who went outside of these boundaries. Censorship dominated the lives of the ordinary citizen in Nazi Germany.

>>61912497
>>61912534
>>61912546
Jesus, this board is fucked.

Tech companies have terms of service. If users willingly break the terms of services, they risk getting banned. If people wanted a true free speech platform, maybe they should try building their own. GoDaddy and Google had all the justification they needed for not allowing The Daily Stormer to operate off of their services. This isn't a matter of first amendment rights, this is a matter of terms of service. If one service doesn't suit your needs, find a different fucking service.

>>61912317
I wonder if they ever thought to point out that is weakens their race and culture massively

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>>61912612
you mean terms of silence?

>>61912612
Yeah, and cake makers were perfectly within their rights for refusing to bake a cake for gay weddings, right?

>>61912634
I mean anime is shit

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>>61912557
>Censorship was rampant throughout Liberal America. Censorship ensured that people could only see what the liberal hierarchy wanted people to see, hear what they wanted them to hear and read only what the liberals deemed acceptable. The media dealt with anyone who went outside of these boundaries. Censorship dominated the lives of the ordinary citizen in liberal America.

>>61906138
Google and Godaddy just screwed themselves over. For a long time, they argued it wasn't their responsibility to regulate content on sites they hosted. This excuse allowed them to hold back The Hollywood Music/TV/Film Mafia from sueing Google and Godaddy in lawsuits involving copyright. Now with their recent actions, Google and Godaddy lost their main excuse and Hollywood can now set their copyright sharks on google and go daddy without any obstacles

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>>61912650
Why are you knowingly lying?

>>61912657
They are certainly attempting this. The internet is tripping them up pretty hard, though.

>>61912663
Because anime is shit

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>Implying censorship

Nothing is stopping them from becoming domain registrars dipshits.

They didn't pull their webhosting or servers. They just pulled their DNS name cause they didn't want to do business with them.

If you don't want to do business with someone who is well within their rights to deny service to someone, that's your prerogative. Stop trying to shift blame though.

Christ, I wish people raised this much of a ruckus when 4chan's DNS was pulled.

Please go the fuck back to your /pol/ containment area you fucktards.

>>61912613
Just for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxMrWSTlvgg

>>61912734
>If you don't want to do business with someone who is well within their rights to deny service to someone, that's your prerogative
Not if a gay couple wants you to bake a wedding cake. Don't get me wrong, I understand and agree with what you believe the law should be, but what should be and what is are two separate things.

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Liberals WILL ban everything they don't like

>>61912634
>I broke the rules and got punished for it, how could this happen to me? :'(
>>61912647
Terms of Service and the right to refuse service are not the same.

>>61912747
This isn't a gay couple baking a cake though.

I'm talking about what DID happen. If you want to talk about /gay/ rights take this to the containment board for that shit, or /pol/

/g/ is for technology.

Don't fucking get in a tizzy cause Google and Godaddy exercised their fucking rights as American companies and said "nah" and change the subject to gay rights to fit your fucking narrative.

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>>61912717

Got this from image searching photo of a celebrity from /tv/ thread. pic related

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>(((government))) ask Google, Telegram, and other IT companies to add filter contents or something for our country version
>tfw (((they))) basically want to monitor us in internet now
JUST

>>61911662
Ryzen CPUs also have the equivalent of Intel's Management Engine FYI. The Bulldozer architectures are the best.

>>61912762
He just wants to talk about gay things cause he's gay. He's been doing this for like 5 hours.

>>61912761
>Terms of Service and the right to refuse service are not the same.
Actually, they are. You can't break the law just because you have a terms of service agreement.

>>61912765
She looks like trollface's daughter.

>>61912775
They literally go through undersea cables with super computers, anime retard

>>61912762
>You can deny business to anyone
>E-EXCEPT HERE STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT

>>61912775
>now
''no''
you're not special altrighter, we are all being monitored.

>>61912756
Both sides, at a certain point, will use censorship. Just because a lot of liberals support censorship doesn't mean that they're the only ones. The aut right would gladly censor liberal opinions.

>>61912797
Not an argument :^)

>google refuses to give someone service because they're gay

Media outrage, complete fucking pandemonium.

>Google refuses to give someone service because they're white
Applause, support, and laughing babies.

>>61912781
I don't think faggots would lurk here. To think they lurk here is kinda weird.
I always assume faggots are either from leldit, /co/mblr, or some fa/g/gots doing some trolling.

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>>61906138
This is what you right-wing cucks get for defending capitalism.

If you express any views that could be construed as a threat to a provider's bottom line, you will be dropped like a hot potato. Hell they might just go after you if you're small enough and present a good PR opportunity. Markets and liberty are FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE. Get that through your thick skulls already. A capitalist web is a restricted web.

>>61912818
>tourist isn't in the know
programming socks

>>61912789
>>61912800
I might be already monitored by murrifat or other western countries, but my country government just join the game recently.

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>>61912807
This

The alt right already pushes and goes full fledged into blocking anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

See: Fox News deleting and filtering comments.
See: T_D deleting and insta banning people who aren't sucking Trumps dick

But you guys raise a fuss when companies refuse to do business with someone.

If the government was forcing companies to do business regardless of race or nationality, that would be a very liberal thing to do wouldn't it :D

>>61912817
Actually Google doesn't want to do business with them because they're toxic customers and high risk under propaganda attack and generally would make the company look like shit to the greater majority of people

Hell there's a reason why 4chan had a hard time trying to find hosting for the longest time. E_D Kept getting shutdown.

This isn't the first time this has happened, won't be the last.

>>61912835
Yes, the government should just be in control of everything. Surely a monopoly will solve the problem of an oligarchy.

Fucking retard.

>>61912297
Nice rebuttal.

>>61912836
Programming socks aren't gay.
Liking traps aren't gay either.

>>61906854
Don't call them normies... call them neutrals. It shouldn't be abnormal to give a shit. Filthy neutrals.

>>61912862
it's ok honey

>>61912835
Still less restricted than EU web that helps criminals

>EU right to be forgotten
>criminals can now delete their past from google and continue scamming people
Thanks EU

>Terms of service are rules by which one must agree to abide in order to use a service.
>b-but muh first amendment
Fuck off, everything has rules. Companies as private entities have the right to set these rules as long as they do not discriminate against people based on race, gender or sexual preferences. If I host an image uploading service, but my terms of service includes a rule saying you are not allowed to upload images of sinks, if you agree to use my service and willingly upload images of a sink, I'm within my right to terminate your account. Fuck you, sinkfaggots.

>>61912854
Practically speaking it is far more difficult for a Western government to censor disagreeable content because it is beholden to onerous constitutional standards. Go ahead and name one time the US Federal Govt stopped somebody from publishing right-wing content in the past 30 years. Historically speaking, they've gone after leftists like me.

Private firms answer only to the whims of executives. Capital is nothing more than a series of micro-dictatorships.

But even then I think the answer lies in federated distribution systems where nobody has the power to shut anybody else up.

>>61912913
stop, they'll sinkpost to spite you

>>61912913
>Please Mr. Porky, may I have another hot load?

>>61906138
They're still on the internet now. Just their name reference on the world wide web got removed cause a corporation they tried to register with refused to do business with them.

Go ahead and register your own registrar with ICANN for altright websites though.

>>61912913
This

>>61906138
>Is anyone else worried?
yeah, i am. i guess we're close to the point where i cancel my connection and go back to 1997.

>>61912960
>/leftypol/ abortion of memes
>>>/out/

>>61906138
Can the internet stay free of anime?
Serious question.

I wish Antifa was treated with the same reaction as the Aut Right from tech companies.

>>61913018
Antifa doesn't kill people sweetie.

>>61912919

US is still number one in free speech. We don't have the same rights here in Europe. Here you are not only subject of corporate censorship but also state censorship. You talk like it's bad in US but it's even worse everywhere else.

>>61913043
Wrong, they killed a lot of NAZI.

>>61913043
Not yet. When communism takes over, they'll start the genocides.

>>61913054
That's what I'm saying idiot.
If the US govt nationalized all web infrastructure, free speech would improve because it'd be held to more stringent constitutional standards rather than "our marketing department doesn't like this, so it has to go."

Libertarian faggots who think privatized = freer are delusional.

>>61913085
what planet are you living in? as if the multinationals would allow that.

>>61913102
>you must be delusional, communists have never committed genocides before.

>>61913093

US has more privatized web and it is more free than what we have in Europe.
Your "stringent constitutional standards" while nationalizing all of web infrastructure are not compatible. Countries that do such efforts have constitutions worthy of toilet paper, that's why they are able to do it. Same thing would happen to the US constitution. You can't have it both.

>>61912657
Literally came to make this same exact post when I saw >>61912557.

>>61912036
The computer you so willingly use to post was invented by a fag.

>>61913106
sorry what?
>>61913192
thanks for the update sweetie

>>61913187
Aaand it's this insane logic that is why I don't feel worry for right-wing retards at the end of the day. As long as you continue to lick the hand that beats you, you deserve whatever you get.

>>61913202
A species does not need a computer to survive.

>>61913211

I'm not right wing.
Government control results government censorship, it's like a law of nature. World is full of examples of this. Counter examples I don't think exist.

>>61906138
>Can the internet stay free?
No.

Also
>implying it is free right now

UNABOM.TXT

>>61906138
Can we please meme super hard that censorship is evil and a Nazi practice? Ensure the government bans censorship.

Opinions should never be illegal.

>>61906138
We'll all be banned from the internet soon because 4chan shows up in our ISPS log files.

Was nice knowing you guys.

>>61906242
And it's not serving to bridge the divide. I don't harbor any negative opinions about gays, and I've maintained numerous platonic relationships with several gay people, but I like to say fag. Not with negative connotations, just calling people faggots. The phonetics are just better than fucker or douchebag, faggot is just audibly more impactful, and I will not censor myself for the sake of someone's hurt feelings over something I said that is taken well out of context.

It's only by making everyone a faggot that will make the world a hospitible place for gays and straights alike, which is why the word faggot should be promoted to blur the lines and reconstitute the understanding of sexuality as being exclusively bi-polar. Everyone should be a faggot, then. And everyone should be a nigger too, and a kike, chink, retard, and everyone should have aspergers.

>>61913300
>a law of nature
Your ideological myths ≠ laws of nature. Also, republicanism is not the only, let alone the best form of government.

Regardless of what you think about the alt right, I find it disturbing that domain registrars and hosts can pick and choose which ideas are "correct" and can be allowed to have a voice. Everyone is for censorship until it applies to them. The internet has become the primary means we have to communicate with each other, apply for jobs, pay our bills etc. If its that essential it should be regulated like a utility. Corporations should not be used to skirt freedom of speech, your rights are non-negotiable. What is the difference between the bakery that refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding and a registrar which refuses to list an alt right website? Both provide a public service. Both should not be allowed to discriminate. The means by which we express ideas change but the protections should not. Public discourse is essential to maintaining a healthy democracy. Regardless of your own ideals you should be for freedom of speech.

>>61906138
stop being a resourceless cuck and host the sites you want
if it's not breaking the law, they cant do shit

>>61909525
Not him or him, but he's wrong

>>61912036
There is a theory why homosexuality could be beneficial for your genes. Some studies have shown that women related to faggots were also more attracted to males and reproduced more. Some goes for brothers/sons of lesbians.

>>61906138
Welcome to Liberal Fascism.

>>61912658
I'm surprised this point got buried. We're gonna see shit happen for the next few years. Grab your files before they are gone.

>>61906138
Hopefully the Internet turns into a totalitarian hell-hole so that BBSes can be cool and underground again

why is everyone retarded?

>>61907484
I'm banned from Facebook so probably not.

>>61906476
They barely covered the fact that a leftest tried to assassinate politicians playing basketball.

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>>61914224
how ironic

>>61906752
Who were the leftists of the 1700s if not the leaders of the American revolution? Who are you even saying they hated?

>>61906138
Well first things first.

1. Cut off the media bullshit, Do not buy from those companies again, put them on a shitlist.

2. Switch search engines

3. Switch Providers etc.

Its not hard to do. One huge fault of a corporation and the government is another persons capitalization of business. Good thing there is some competition. Otherwise we would be fucked.

>>61912762
>present an argument ("If you don't want to do business with someone, you can deny then of that business, its legal right!")
>get a counter-argument in return ("Here's an instance where a party didn't want to do business with another party, and it was not possible")
>proceed to reject the counter argument foolishly (businesses follow the same code of ethics regarding dealing, the topic in which they do business has little to do with it)

>pretends as if he's "won"

Debating in 2-0-1-7

>>61912848
>Fox News
>Alt-Right

guess complex is alt right too :-)

When did new media start acting like old media btw?
The old media virtue signaling and pandering to regressives, while fighting to stay alive is almost to be expected.
But how does it make sense for the new shit to do this.
It's actually very interesting to see Google do this while content creators on their new media platforsm suffer.

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It's like when they banned cosplaying as storm troopers at some big con.
"Silence the fascists"
"But storm troopers are only a symbol of fascism that, if anything, teaches us that fascists are the bad guys"
"YOU'RE A FASCIST"

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>>61906138
And they'll call you a fascist if you disagree. And everyone will believe them.

We're approaching a revolution. Be ready to fight for freedom.

>>61916175
Like I said in another thread. I saw an alt right blogger on minds thank the regressive left for the race war. It's exactly what they wanted.

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It's like the political compass should have a third axis called progressive / regressive added to it.
The lefties wanting to ban words and ideas from everything are in with a lot of bad guys who don't share their commie views.
Statists who just want to control the discourse. Nothing progressive or liberal about that I can assure you.
Alt right or antifa? From their methods I can't tell the difference. I just know Zuck and Angela Merkel love it.

>>61906752
The US founding fathers have more in common with Richard Spencer than with Trump.

People need to wake up to reality. The progressives keep "progressing" while the Conservatives are reactionaries, trying to conserve what society was like in the previous generation. The conservatives keep losing.

>95. It is said that we live in a free society because we have a certain number of constitutionally guaranteed rights. But these are not as important as they seem. The degree of personal freedom that exists in a society is determined more by the economic and technological structure of the society than by its laws or its form of government. [16] Most of the Indian nations of New England were monarchies, and many of the cities of the Italian Renaissance were controlled by dictators. But in reading about these societies one gets the impression that they allowed far more personal freedom than out society does. In part this was because they lacked efficient mechanisms for enforcing the ruler's will: There were no modern, well-organized police forces, no rapid long-distance communications, no surveillance cameras, no dossiers of information about the lives of average citizens. Hence it was relatively easy to evade control.

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>>61916249
You must listen to Teddy

>>61912658
Jesus fucking Christ, that is a legit good point

>>61912658
they won't though
you should know why

>>61916447
>>>/somethingawful/

>>61912658
That was back when Google and Godaddy had little to no leverage, but nowadays?
If a film corp like Universal decided to pull the stunt you described, Google could easily say "Ok, but now you can't host your content on Youtube, and your newest releases won't show up in google searches for until 2 weeks after opening night (which would work because most normies use google and only google for inquiries on where to go for movies). No android support either, we'll rip your movies off of the play store, throttle download speeds on your apps, mess with your gmails (which someone in the company most likely uses)." Google is fucking monolithic and can be fucking brutal if they so wanted.

I don't know much about Godaddy, but they are the most likely to fold. Regardless, those sites could easily use the myriad of other sites that provide the exact same service. In fact, it's so easy to set up, i'm surprised i haven't seen the "Gab.ai" "We protect ur free speech" "alt-right welcome" provider yet

>>61906138

What really bothers me is that niggers have been killing and raping tens of thousands of people for decades, but nobody bans black power/anti-white rhetoric, on the contrary, the MSM is encouraging it, Muslims are decapitating and burning people alive in Africa and raping and killing in Europe, but nobody bans Islam, on the contrary, it's illegal to criticize it and the MSM defends it, leftists hold antifa marches where they brutalize people and destroy property but nobody bans left-wing discourse, on the contrary, the MSM is protecting it and encouraging it, BUT ONE GUY, runs over some leftists and all of the sudden the entire political, MSM and part of the corporate scene immediately bans anything rightwing.
You could swear, it's almost as if the Jews, via their masonic lodges, have control over critical sections of our society or something.

>>61910842
>Urbit
Hosting stuff on platforms born of NRx sure is a great idea!
I like Urbit, but I fear for its future. Not because Mencius would do anything himself, mind you, but because of things like what happened at that convention.

>>61912036
This^

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>>61912858
>I think you need to reproduce or else you're a parasite
>Posts on a site full of permavirgins

>>61906138
>Its cool to ban nazis from the internet because they deserve it amirite?
No. Neither side should want that.
It benefits no one, the only result it can ever have is to further radicalize the right and to make the left more authoritarian.

This banning has already started long ago here in Germany. The best argument that "holohoaxers" have is that the discussion is banned in Germany (and other countries).

And the censorship has only grown since then, now people who disagree with letting murderous islamists into Europe without sufficient security measures are being targeted for "hate speech".

You people have it fucking great in America when it comes to free speech and you should be really fucking worried.

Charlottesville is what will continue to happen again and again if you don't let people speak openly.

>>61906138
i2p