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BREAKING NEWS Vega 56 is fine. Vega 64 is shit. They're

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BREAKING NEWS

Vega 56 is fine.
Vega 64 is shit.

They're both overpriced like every GPU on the market currently.

Wait for Navi and Volta in late 2018.
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>>61900236
No wonder they're trying to sell it as a 1440p/4k GPU.
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>>61900236
>Wait
>Late 2018
Waiting is always the shit choice for Radeon GPoos
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>>61900236
>draw much more power than 1080 and the 1070
>shit overclocking

No thanks
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>>61900388
Drivers weren't working apparently (surprise!)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_vega_64_8gb_review,32.html

>We halted testing overclocking until AMD can deliver a final driver where it works properly. There are sliders in the Wattman control panel that allow users to change the clock speeds for the GPU's highest power states. You'll see them there if you pick the “custom” profile.

>Unfortunately, there was an issue in the press driver where adjustments made to these sliders are not applied. An updated beta driver however ONLY allowed us to use this driver for playing with Wattman. The standard performance and other tests should still be performed with the previously uploaded driver. Not even AMDhad time to test this functionality with all other aspects of the driver and needs further testing before prime time.
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>>61900441
>release day
>drivers still aren't ready
Hooo boy.
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>>61900441
this shit draw 300 fucking watts...imagine the OC
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>>61900559
Wait for partner GPUs next month.

Not like you can buy them now anyway as they all sold out.
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So it's basically AMD's 1070 and 1080. Well over a year to make exactly what Nvidia made in early 2016. And they needed almost twice the TDP to do it

I can't wait for Volta to shit on all the R and D money AMD spent to reinvent the Pascal wheel
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>>61900673
>I can't wait for Volta to shit on
It's only going to be marginally faster than Pascal (10%)

Biggest thing they're adding is something called warp rasterizer and we still know next to nothing about it.

"Really big dies" won't make it into consumer GPUs.
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>>61900768
>i-it's only going to be marginally faster!
>amd still has a chance guys!
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>>61900808
NVidia is either going to have to ditch the bigger dies, raise prices or suffer a hit to their margins. Which do you think is the most likely?
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>>61900559
Why is that a surprise? It's applied to almost every AMD card ever made. Give it a few years and it'll be outperforming a 1080 Ti in most titles, but nobody will care because the 1280 Ti will be wrecking its shit.
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>>61900236
>Vega 56 is fine.
It's a little better than fine if you can get it to overclock, which most reviewers struggled with on test drivers. Today's driver update should fix that.
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>>61900285
To be fair 1080p is a pretty low resolution now. Even $200 phones have 1440p screens now and there are some 1440p monitors going for under $200 too.
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>>61900971
It looks like theres not much point in overclocking anything except the memory.
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>>61900873
Vega20, anon.
Vega20.
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>>61901024
>32 GB
>pro card only
Yeah, nah. This is as good as it gets for consumer Vega.
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>>61901008
Yeah, because like I've been saying, the Vega 10 is entirely memory bandwidth bottlenecked in games. Get Vega 56's HBM2 to 945mhz at it will tie a stock Vega 64 Air in every test.
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>>61900559
Now the most silly part: prim shaders are disabled!
It's choking full of nasty overdrawn tris!
>>61901039
They'll launch it for consumer too the moment nVidia launches cutdown GV102.
Because why not?
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>>61901039
They need to make a 4-stack version of Vega for gaming, either 4 x 2 or 4 x 4. Might as well piggyback it off Vega 20 dev and not bother doing a Vega 10 x2 at all, since there's no point to an x2 of a totally bandwidth bottenecked GPU.
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>>61900285
But even 1080ti barely plays 4K@60FPS. And Freesync is still better than G(oy)-Sync.
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>>61901067
>prim shaders are disabled!
Why is this still happening?
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>>61901100
Ask Rys.
Guess why he was silent about whether or not prim shaders were enabled in FE.
:^)
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>>61901116
Well it's a little too late to enable it now and surprise everyone so it looks like RTG is just not good enough to finish the drivers any time soon.
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>>61901169
It's never too late.
The first impression is bad though.
Especially regarding 1080p perf.
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>both cards are very comparable to the competitor's ones OC'd when it launches despite that it's early as fuck, drivers are shit and you can't flash the BIOS
>costs way less
>but it's fine cause Vega is DOA & "I want my gorillion FPS" and the card to also beat the 1080 ti but while also costing 50% off.

You faggots will never get what you want. I can't comprehend people who haven't yet figured out that Vega & AMD's marketing strategy is about being more cost-effective rather than making expensive-as-fuck cards to get muh FPS.
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>>61901293
Sorry I couldn't hear you over the raging house fire around you.
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>>61900236
>Wait for Navi and Volta in late 2018.

For more overpriced "fine" gpus?
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>>61900236
>Vega 56 is fine.
>Vega 64 is shit.
"Shit" is probably harsh, but it's definitely... burning.

I'm going to get a custom Vega 56 as soon as they're going to be release, probably early September.
Still waiting for the official Euro price.
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>>61901293
It will give moar FPS once it actually works.
Right now these are nice space heaters.
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>>61901310
Ausfag here pricing gonna be insane since we pay $400+ for a 580 and $700+ for a 1080
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>>61901335
That's quite something.
However, Polaris prices are far from what they should be everywhere because of the mining power.

I'm happy Vega didn't turn out to be a hash monster.
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VEGA 56 BIOS is locked at 300w max. How fucking shitty is that.
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>>61901293
>costs way less
$399 MSRP for Vega 56 vs $379 for 1070. Plus vega uses almost twice as much power and was released a year after it should have been.
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>>61901293
>vega 64 $599
>gtx 1080 $500-$560
>vega costs way less
i don't think that's how numbers work
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>late 2018

u retarded? isnt volta coming early 2018?
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>>61901371
>>61901412
>0.15$ have been deposited into your account.

And the pigs are also flying,amirite?
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>>61901371
>$379 for 1070
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>>61901425
So tell me more about why AMD is pricing 580 $200 above where it should be and how it's all AMD's fault and miners have nothing to do with it.
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>>61901425
>that cherrypicking
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=367&sort=price&page=1
the other guy saying that gtx 1070 costs $379 was obviously wrong
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>>61901424
in your dreams
for the last 7 years nvidia announces tesla first and consumer gpu 10-12 months later
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>>61901371
VEG 56 ID 210W TDP FOR FUCK SAKE STOP SAING IT USES 300, EVEN 64 IS 295W TDP, ONLY THE LIQUID COOLING IS 340W TDP AND FOR ALL OF THEM IF YOU HAVE A 750W PSU YOU'RE FINE.
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>>61901424
I think it's supposed to be Q2 or Q3. Anyways they don't even need to release Volta.
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>>61901371
>$399 MSRP for Vega 56 vs $379 for 1070.
>>61901412
Keep giving e-bay-like numbers from nVidia while comparing them to official numbers from AMD.

And even if the prices are the same,which one are you gonna compare?The one who performs almost the same on the release day & has a lot more headroom or the ones who cost the same(or more,most likely) after a year?

Your green panties are showing.
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>>61901484
What if i have 600w is it good for vega 56
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>>61901484
Calm down, Pajeet! This is very unprofessional!
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>>61901357
Because if hey didn't it would be exactly as fast as an OC'd Vega 64, since the card is memory bandwidth bottlenecked.

Get Vega 56's HBM2 to ~945mhz and it will tie Vega 64 Air in every benchmark.
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56 looks like a decent 390 replacement
you have to be stupid to buy 64

question is, how much powerdraw increase OCing memory does? if it's negligble I can see AIBs selling memory OC version that shred 1070s and come very near 1080
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>>61901499
>Keep giving e-bay-like numbers from nVidia while comparing them to official numbers from AMD.
The official numbers from Nvidia have 1070 at $349 and 1080 at $499.
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>>61901499
>Keep giving e-bay-like numbers from nVidia while comparing them to official numbers from AMD.
what the fuck are you even talking about
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487252
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>>61901506
500 is enough, if it's decent PSU at least bronze, no oem shit
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>>61901506
If it have 2 8pin for PCIe, yes.
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>>61901526
>you have to be stupid to buy 64
They still haven't fixed the memory bandwidth issues on Vega 64. It's better than FE but still a big regression from Fiji. The improvement seems to indicate its fixable though.
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Are gpu prices going down? When will the mining for ETH slow down
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>>61901542
Don't mind him, he's retarded.
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>>61901506
>What if i have 600w is it good for vega 56
then get another PSU you fucking faggot, you get a 400$ but can't spend money on a decent 700W+ PSU?

>inb4 but muh card shouldn't use 300W
Are you an idiot who never knew that AMD cards use more power than the nvidia ones?
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>>61901547
They need to enable fucking prim shaders first.
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>>61901557
Youre mean and smelly pajeet. I'll just go nvidia
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>>61901561
>They need to enable fucking prim shaders first.
Jesus fuck, just how understaffed is the RTG driver team? This is totally insane. Do we have any idea if DSBR is even working yet? Has anyone even ASKED RTG about WTF is going on with the memory bandwidth?
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>>61901561
they need to release vega driver first that isn't beta
when will RTG allocate real budget for driver team? every launch, every freaking launch it's like this
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>>61901582
>>61901588
Early access is coming too GPUs too.
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>>61901582
https://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en-us&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2017-08%2Fradeon-rx-vega-64-56-test%2F
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>>61901594
NVIDIA did it first with OG Titan tho.
Literally GK110: early access edition.
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>>61900236
Wasn't Vega supposed to go in new iMac Pro? Is that thing going to be constantly on fire?
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Isn't AMD gonna make a killing with these though? I feel like they designed the Vega architecture for these cards, with the two gaming cards as an afterthought they'd try and sell with freesync.
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>>61901531
>>61901542
Keep posting fucking newegg numbers, and yet most people either don't have newegg in their countries or usually have nvidia cards way overpriced.

Cards from both companies are way over-priced anyways, but i'm pretty damn sure 1070 and 1080 weren't 400/500$ when they launched, and for the most part you can't even buy them at those prices 1 year after unless you crate-dig at SH on e-bay or have your little alarm set for newegg price-drops.
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>>61901640
temperature is fine though, even with blower
powerdraw is bad only for 64
56 looks good all around
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>>61901557
I can make my RX 480 draw 220W
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>>61901657
They will.
Hell Pro drivers are working nice and dandy.
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>>61901658
/600$*
The point still holds
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>>61901668
>whole system load

at least post tom's, they don't have 56 though
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>>61901658
you're moving those goalposts all the time
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>>61901640
Apple always gets best binning and they won't clock as high as the AIB versions.

Also Apple is pretty good at cooling. The trashcan Mac Pro is literally the size of of a shoe and can keep dual FirePros and a 12 core Xeon cool.
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>>61901658
>Keep posting fucking newegg numbers
I'm not posting anything from Newegg, I'm posting the official MSRP from Nvidia.
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>>61901693
I'm not exactly moving shit,but the point is that people who're saying (and have also being saying it before Vega was even realeased/or just the FE was out) that AMD is DOA with Vega are completely wrong.

If i got to pay couple hundred dollars less for the same performance 1 year later that's perfectly fine for me, the fact that it draws more power doesn't bother me.
And after all, these numbers are still as early as they get, custom versions aren't even out and people are still shilling for the green team.

People should buy whatever their judgement tells them it's the best, fanboyism in the [current year] just proves one's not actually interested in the point of discussion rather than being a faggot.
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I pray to god everynight that i snatch a 56 before a miner
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>>61901658
>don't have newegg in their countries or usually have nvidia cards way overpriced
The fuck are you talking about? Even in my shithole of a country nVidia GPUs are mostly at the same price like everywhere else, AMD ones tend to be more expensive though.
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>>61901744
And can you buy these nvidia cards for these MSRP prices without them being SH?
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>>61901547
>They still haven't fixed the memory bandwidth issues on Vega 64.
Isn't that a hardware issue because they went with 2 stacks?
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>>61901780
>People should buy whatever their judgement tells them it's the best
and that's why they shouldn't buy vega at this moment
you look like an amd fanboy to me, the 1080 looks way better right now after amd added $100 to the price of the vega 64, with a $599 price tag and lower performance AND way higher power consumption there is literally no point to get it over a 1080
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>>61901829
Can you buy Vega?
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>>61901842
They actually fixed it. They toggled the DSBR on.
Now they need to toggle prim shaders on.
Funny stuff.
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>>61900873
Never going to happen
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>>61901846
>and that's why they shouldn't buy vega at this moment
So you admit you're a shill or something?You're exactly proving my point.
>>61901856
No, i never claimed so faggot, but apparently you have for posting muh MSRP prices when you can't even find these nvidia cards at those prices without them being SH.
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>>61900559
>a-amd drivers are just f-f-f-f-fine!
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>>61900236
>Wait for Navi and Volta in late 2018.
No. Fuck you. I'm buying a GTX 1080.
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>>61901901
>So you admit you're a shill or something?You're exactly proving my point.
i'm pretty sad you don't have a tripcode so i could just block you
you ignored EVERYTHING i said and just called me a shill, that's a classic shill tactic or you're just retarded
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>>61900559
>Can't even buy them yet, barely out of benchmarks NDA
>BUT MUH DRIVERS!
Cry when you get your hands on one, meanwhile the cards are hbm2 and not the same old gddrgayx5.

What the fuck do you expect from such a new platform?At least AMD hasn't claimed to boost their performance of a card by 30% through drivers.
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These cards are only worth a shit if you fell for the freesync meme and don't pay your own power bill.

>falling for the freesync meme in any case

Enjoy your flickering and broken implementation.
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>>61900559
You thought AMD no drivers is a fucking meme? Welcome to reality boy.
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>>61901943
>you're not tripfaggin' so i'm gonna block you
>i got no more shilled proved™ arguments so you're retarded & i'm gonna block you
Ok buddy, you post again when you get a new 1080 for 500 fucking dollars.(lmao)
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>>61900998

Yep, the current state of benchmarking is beyond stupid. Yep, some laptops are limited to 1080p but you're not going to put a new GPU in that anyway. All the desktop users will have higher resolutions. I use a 3x1440p monitor setup myself. And I've had that a while.

It anywhere near realistic to believe that

people will go out and buy a $1100 GPU and a computer to put it in

and a $100 1080p TN panel? Seriously?

It's beyond ridiculous.
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>>61901425
>>61901433
>>61901499
So let me get this straight your counter argument against his MSRP comparison is the idea that Vega will somehow magically be sold at its advertised price because it won't share the same fate that Pascal did when it comes to mining. Can we just ban all niggers using AMD hardware from /g/? I'm sick and tired of your retarded fallacies and bullshit.
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When will the board partners release their cards? I want to get a Sapphire or XFX Vega 64.

At first I wanted to get a liquid cooled version, but those are over 700€. Fuck paying that much.
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>>61902167
Probably next month some time.
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>>61902134
>All the desktop users will have higher resolutions.
Lolno, the majority of desktop users are still on 1080p and will be for a long time.
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>>61902167
Literally every Vega 64 will cost at least as much as 1080 Ti you mouth breathing retard. All those prices you see on newegg etc. are MSRP due to the fact that sellers don't actually have them in stock. Expect a $700 price tag on Vega 56 once they actually become available.
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>>61902195
No, you fucking double nigger. I could order a reference rx64 black edition for 500€ but I'm not putting a fucking jet engine in my case.
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>>61902153.
V56 is probably not gonna be 400$ but more like 500-550$, yet you can hardly find any 1070 on amazon under 450$.

It's a new platform, and judging by the benchmarks results 1 day after the NDA with shit drivers they're looking promising.
>inb4 muh 300W power-draw when stress-testing
Also in pretty much every other task than gaming it's gonna be in favor of AMD thanks to their higher bandwidth & way higher BUS.

Also i never claimed for these cards to hit the shelves with the MSRP prices, but he apparently shilled with his cherrypicked newegg 400/500$ 1070/1080s respectively, care to explain why or you're just gonna switch to another point?
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>>61900971
Gamers Nexus said it may be very difficult to do because of a Microsoft security feature that prevents the gpu from using more than 300 watts of power.
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You want volta and navi if you want to drive a 4k monitor above 60fps for what a gtx 1070 or 1080 costs now. Otherwise you can just get a 1080 Ti today.
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>>61900441
They didn't have approval from EPA to allow the drivers to overclock due to risks in power grid so the function was disabled
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in Germany Vega 64 air just went from launch to sold out within minutes.
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>>61902577
But why?
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>get 27 inch 1440p freesync monitor
>get non ref Vega 56
>profit???
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>>61902589
because a lot of people WAITed
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there is literally NO GAME OUT that demands buying a newer GPU

its so hilarious watching all you 15-19 year olds go back and forth about amd this nvidia that when the technology is stagnated to a screeching halt.

there is nothing GOOD enough out there that warrants a new GPU you can't already play

PC GAMING IS DEAD

it died many years ago and all this amd/intel/nvidia discussion is just pointless filler for your empty lives. none of it matters because tech is so good these days you just end up arguing semantics (this price point vs that price point)

so funny watching you kids get all riled up over this pointless garbage.
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>>61902592
feeling HOT HOT HOT
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>mfw VEGA is complete fucking shit but it's sold out anyways

How did AMD manage this?
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>>61902629
Ya jackass
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>516W card power
HOLY FUCK
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>>61902707
Nope.

Fuck this I'm out Nvidia won
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>>61902622
>VRM IS HOT
No shit?
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>>61902134
>tfw 1440x900 w/ GTX 1060
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>>61902707
fuck off
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>>61902748
>rx air = rx liquid

reading comprehension ladies!
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>>61900589
Partner cards will draw even more power and generate more heat .. The only difference is that they wont be blowing them out the back of the chassis and will be inconsiderately dumping that shit into your case. This is fine for something that is exhausting less than 200Watts a card. There's no way in fuck i'm buying a partner card that sucks down 400W plus and dumping that shit into my chassis for 3% performance boost + $100-$200 more markup .. You can get right the fuck outta here w/ that bullshit.
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>>61902748
>Air cooled
IT DOESN'T CONSUME 500W BECAUSE IT THROTTLES. SUCH AMAZING FORESIGHT FROM AMD! I'LL TAKE 5, MAYBE I'LL MATCH A 1080TI WITH THAT
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>>61902776
You think it's going to increase 100 watts just from a partner GPU?
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>all these people crying about power draw

What? If the temperatures are fine and managed well then what the fuck are you complaining about? Do none of you know anything about computers? Are you just upset that you have an anemic 430w PSU?
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>>61902186
Do you even read? I'm not talking about the "majority" of desktop users with their old dual-core systems and 1080p panels.

Read again. Are you going to buy a $1000 GPU and a $1000 motherboard/GPU/RAM combination and not buy a new 1440 or 4k monitor? The whole idea is just stupid.

Yes, again, I know people with a 10 year old computer will have a 1080p monitor. So what? They didn't just buy a new GPU, did they?
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>>61902814
I'm not a neet living in my mothers basement so I pay my own powerbill.

This bill happens to be about 6 times what it was prior to crypto-mining.
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>>61902838
>crypto-mining
I hope your little toes fall off.
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>>61900236
Wow, sobmany delays and still horribly broken drivers!

Way to go RTG!
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>>61902791
If the card is throttling on a reference design, then a more efficiently designed cooling solution could very well increase power draw by a significant margin. But that would also indicate a performance increase by the same margin.

So then there's the question, does the RX Vega air-cooled reference card throttle or not, and by how much?
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>yfw 2x rx580 is faster than vega
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What is AMD thinking marketing their Vega 64 card for $700? That's like $25 less than a decent 1080ti model. What are they smoking?
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>>61902969
Actually, it's $1100.

Your price and location may vary.
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>>61902946
I believe Jayz2cents had his fan speeds set to 100% so it wouldn't throttle on the reference design. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flekUCK9O2g
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>>61902981
Well I meant standard MSRP before faggot miners bought them all. I figured Vega 64 would be in the $450-$550 mark, making it a more power hungry gtx 1080.

The 1080ti buries the Vega 64 using way less power, higher OC ceiling, more VRAM. Better cooling options too. Literally what reason is there for me to even consider a Vega card? Assuming I could find one in stock of course.

Fuck I should have bought those 2 XFX Black Edition GTS RX580s when they were $210 each. I'd be sitting comfy having sold them for $500 each.
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>>61901878
>toggled
Moron
>prim shaders
Need to be programmed for on a game by game basis. Takes even longer than implementing DSBR.

Moron.
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>>61900559
56 isn't releasing today, and I can't find any place I can buy Vega 64
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12.6 teraflops.
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>>61902969
>What is AMD thinking marketing their Vega 64 card for $700?
They're thinking about shekels and cryptofags.
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>>61902987
Watching the video I heard him say he upped the fan curve *slightly*.
Where did you get "100%" from?
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>>61903166
Oops I guess I mis-remembered but anyway he upped it so there wouldn't be any thermal throttling which he also mentioned.

Of course this will make your PC sound like it has a jet engine inside it ..
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>>61901506
My 620W Antec (Seasonic) would handle Vega 56.
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Was there a vega 56 preorder? Can't find any listing sold out or not.
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Remember, with AMD the cutdown version is always better.
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>i-im saving money Anon!

No you aren't
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Well I guess the silver lining of all this is that AMD is selling graphics cards at all. It could always be worse, and AMD have no outlet, customer base, or sales at all. I mean let's be honest. Their RX 4xx/5xx line of cards along with these new Vega ones wouldn't have sold nearly as much if it weren't for the miners.
Maybe they'll take all this money and actually start working on on time drivers that don't suck.
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>>61901079
It barely does but at least it fucking does do it. Most games it can't have a dynamic resolution option and the very few that you absolutely can't run at 4k you will get by good enough at 3k or any in-between custom resolution
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>>61903363
>mobileposter thinking his opinion is worth shit
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>>61903419
Not an argument
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>>61903370
>drivers that don't suck
AMD had better drivers then novidia for a while. It is just that Vega is hard to code drivers for, new architecture. DESU id get Vega 56 even with current results. If it gets better when they enable all of the advanced shit then its just a bonus for me.
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>1080ti goes for ~700
>Vega 64 Liquid Cooled goes for 700

What did they mean by this?
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>>61903439
I owned the r9-290X as an early adopter. Xfire even. I never felt more ripped off in my entire life. I sold them for close to $650 each when the mining craze first hit. Bought an EVGA gtx 980ti classified for $750 and pocketed the rest.

AMD only recently for their equivalent to shadowplay. Something I use often. For the price they charge for their flagship cards, especially ones that are still outperformed by the current flagship of Nvidia, their drivers are lack luster to say the least.
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>>61900236
Didn't expect to find so soon a non-retarded post on /g/ regarding vega
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>msi 390x
>adaptive sync 1440p monitor
>want good fps and not a space heater

what are my options bros. 2nd 390x, or 2 pascals?
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>>61903567
Non ref Vega 56 obviously. Such a retarded question desu.
>>
I am so glad I bought a 1080 for 350 USD new 6 months ago.
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>>61900236
>wait for 2018

I need a GPU now though
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>>61903589
>799 US dollars!
>>
>>61903567
A single 1080 or Vega 56
>>
What nonref 56/64 card will be the best tho
>>
>>61903652
saphire, xfx, and msi are usually well liked
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>>61903439
I'm interested in their drivers and their software stack beyond just goofy ass vidya. On such matters, Nvidia kicks their ass and has for some time. As for comparing the two, both of these faggots disable tons of powerful features so people buy their pro line. You discover that when you use these cards beyond vidya. This is one of them : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-root_input/output_virtualization

So, i have no clue wtf you mean by better drivers.
If there's anything Nvidia does to kick Radeon's ass it's in the software stack.
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>>61903717
I'm deciding by the end of the day if I'm going to wait for 56 or buy an nvidia card. So, far it isn't looking good for Radeon. Vega 64 was never on my radar given to how power inefficient and lack luster its performance is. Radeon knows this which is why they pushed the 56 moreso than the 64. Thank god for the tards who bought the inventory of 64s in 5min. Seems they could use the cash to get their shit together.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I don't want to wait a whole year reeeeeeeeeee
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>>61903791
>>61903601
I don't see why this is so difficult, just get a 1080ti
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>>61903747
>lackluster performance
>faster than the 1080
okay dweeb, we understand you're a little slow and a little bit of a fag

in the end you're not gonna buy any of these cards so just beat it kid
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How long until we can get 56 with some sensible cooling?
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>>61902620
Fuck me lol. What's more pathetic than some bitchy old man screaming at anonymous (hypothetical) teenagers on the internet. You are a fucking loser mate lol.
Not that it even matters, but I'm well into my 20s. Well before that though you should know better than to act like such a stupid spastic lol. Sort yourself out you prized plum.
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>>61903822
I want a gtx 1080 but more efficient and cheaper so yeah I'll wait
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>>61902620
This isn't about running more complex games moron, it's about playing the same games at a higher resolution.
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>>61903822
>£800 on a GPU
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>>61904103
The "you're arguing for nothing" argument could be better argued by the fact that GPUs are either insanely overpriced or out of stock completely.
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I just bought a new MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G for 420€.

Suck it, AyyMD.
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>>61904362
Sure you did buddy.
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>>61900236
>Wait for Navi and Volta in late 2018.
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>>61904431
Why can't it be early 2018?
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>>61904362
>eurocuckbux
You already lost, at life.
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>>61904103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKI3dMiH5rs
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$200-$300 gaming card that supports sr-iov when?
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>>61904299
Thats not the argument I'm making. That post was just so retarded and tragically ironic I couldn't resist. Chiding young people by acting like a big flailing babby. Lel
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>>61904524
someone said that FE doesn't support it...
is sr-iov seriously limited to workstation cards?
also in pro apps RX performance is almost the same as FE...
so what's the fucking point of FE?????
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>>61903303
Later
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>>61904164
$729 for a top binned highly overclockable silent Aurous model. Worth every penny
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>>61901067
oh fuck off, post some source
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>>61902461
u wot? my 390x pulls 315w maxxed out, windows never stopped that.
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>>61903512
290x~$650
No you didn't fgt, post the transaction and' I'll apologize
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>>61903567
xfire is dead, also on 390x and qhd. vega 56 partner card is the answer if you wanna keep freesync
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>>61900586
Apparently, the normal 64 variant is using somewhat around 311W while under max load.

THE WATER COOLED VARIANT USES ALMOST 400W WHILE UNDER MAX LOAD FOR BARELY 15% PERFORMANCE INCREASE

source: linusdicktips
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>>61904857
An extra 8GB of RAM. Idiots tried their hardest to defend the existence of RX Vega and started shitting themselves with excitement spouting bullshit like "RX WILL BE 10X BETTER THAN FE" even tho their performance is... wait for it... IDENTI-FUCKING-CAL YOU STUPID FUCKING AMD DICK LOVERS.

But who am I to judge? The card does indeed deliver some great performance especially in apps that use OpenCL.
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>>61902461
>>61905538
That's actually AMD security "feature", according to GN
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>>61900236
AMD; Wait™
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>>61902826
>I Live Under A Rock: The Post
Because if you didn't you would know that retards do exactly that. Furthermore, there are garbage optimized games out there.
Also.
>What is Steam hardware survey
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>>61904524
>>61904857
>https://community.amd.com/message/2815591
Nope, not getting that either.
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>>61901335
Fuck off with your shitposting. US has 17dollar mind wage
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>literally a 1070
AMD's graphics division needs its shit wrecked.
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>>61906503
thas jus dum
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>>61900971
Custom PCB custom cooler Vega 56 is going to be the one to buy.
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