First Vega Review

>>61895162
RIP AMD

>>61895162
If Vega released last year it would be pretty cool

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>>61895162
>drivers will fix it

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>500W

I wonder if there's still any headroom left for the watercooled Vega to be overclocked, though that would probably push it over 400 watts of power so maybe not worth it.

>>61895162
I wonder how Vega will go in custom loops.

>>61895221
>>61895222
lmao

>>61895162
>It's actually slower than 1080 FE
Wew lad.

>>61895221
Have we started the fire?

>>61895221
>Total system power

Wait for Toms Hardware for proper power measurements noobs.

>>61895162
>only 30% jump over Fiji with all the uarch improvements
Now that's what I call a spectacular failure.

>>61895199
This. Literally Bulldozer.
It may be a good uarch, and the may fix it later with new revisions, but I don't know. They rely on some features available only for Vega and hope to talk vendors into using it, there's probably no way for them to improve this generation until it happens.

>>61895199
Looks pretty damned hot to me

>>61895221
>+50%
balanced actually looks better than expected, 390w system power is nothing, I expected it in the range of 600-700w for liquid
huh, 56 looks even better now

>>61895252
Gamers nexus is generally more reliable.

>>61895221
> 300W for the aircooled card
Eh, it's OK.

>>61895270
haha, no.

>>61895270

Not for power draw numbers - Tom's german team have no equal for that.

>>61895274
within the spec, which is nice for AMD card

>>61895264
So if I'm in the market for a 1070 or a Vega56, which do I buy? Or do I wait another half year for Volta?

>>61895295
Get 1070.

>>61895295
you wait 9 more hours and see the reviews and compare prices in your locale

>>61895295
56 looks very compelling judging from the leaks, it performs slightly better, if you manage to buy one

>>61895295
Wait for benchmarks and prices first.
> Or do I wait another half year for Volta?
Volta is Pascal with strapped on HBM2, nothing more. Maybe a new node process and more cores.

Now that's truly nv30-tier disaster.
How, slow, late, pricey.
I won't buy it even for $250 lmao.

>>61895295
also don't forget to factor in resolution
as history shows with 390 vs 970 for 1440p
390 won in the long run

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>people waited a year for this

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wait for navi

>>61895326
go to bed already, nv30-anon,

>500 watts
So this is the power of a house fire

My only question is...is it good for crypto?

>inb4 fuck off cryptofaggot

>>61895162
Hahahaha where the fuck is that dumb pajeet poster who wouldn't get a trip when he was claiming VEga 56 would compete with the 1080

>>61895347
fuck off cryptofaggot

>>61895347
fuck off cryptofaggot
>>>/biz/

>>61895344
>denying that Vega is worse than nv30
Come on.

>>61895352
dude chill out the mods want us to go easy on them tonight. they are in a very troubled place right now and we need to be supportive.

>>61895347
It's the same as the Vega FE, so no.

Threadripper and Nvidia for ultimate machine

Intel and Vega for ultimate heater

>>61895346
>+50% stress
you know that nvidia cards pull around the same when you do that, right?
wait for toms proper measurement

>>61895388
Not really, the 1080 Ti won't pull over 650W consistently no matter the situation, even under LN2. It will only have spikes that last microseconds

>>61895388
>j-just wait for proper tests n-nvidiot
Ha haaaaa.

>>61895388
Nvidia cards don't let you go above 120% without hard modding the card itself.
If it isn't hard modded, i am 90% sure some retard is going to set his house on fire when he puts it to 150% while it is aircooled.

>>61895332
>in the long run
>many years later
>970 can do average 60 FPS, 390 can do average 62 FPS
>3-390 won in the long run!

>>61895221
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>>61895162
good job matching the 1080 from more than a year ago!

>>61895366
hey, my FX 5200 still works and is on use on a office pc after like 12 years of constant use (14+ hours a day, probably on 100% usage even for fucking solitaire), passed and survived thru 4 mobos, 2 PSU and god know how much dust (passive cooled), i don't see those vega shit lasting more than 5 years without melting itself up.

>>61895404
970 couldn't and still can't into 1440p
it was always behind 390 at 1440, gap is just wider now

>>61895428
>FX5200
That's 5200. 5800 was a true housefire.

>>61895404
being a waitfag(tm) are in these days you know?

Fuck it. I'll just flash my RX 480 to a 580 and wait for Navi.

>>61895456
don't, it won't do anything good
just OC as much as you can on 480 bios

>literally worse than bigger Polaris would've been
Bravo RTG!
Truly a miracle of engineering!

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1070 performance!

THE FIRE RISES

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>>61895499
you should have listened. I warned you guys

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>>61895499
1080ti performance!

>>61895508
>bf1 dx12
how desperate

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aren't these kimchi dogs breaking some agreement?

>>61895499
>It's 15% better than Fiji with 60% higher clocks
HOLY FUCK THATS ABYSMALLY BAD
The uarch is simply atrocious.
Fire poojet and nuke RTG China.

>>61895518
They probably sourced the cards indirectly so not under NDA.

>>61895518
Probably
It's not like AMD is gonna do anything about it

This is worse than I thought it would be. AMD shopuld cut RTG loose and sell the IP to Nvidia.

>>61895516
because cherrypicking Civ VI isn't desperate?

>>61895162
>>61895192
wait for drivers

>>61895508

That is the sort of performance I want to see across the board for Vega to be my next card. I want tio build a 4k machine and would prefer not to go Nvidia for several reasons.

>>61895540
>let's nuke our APUs!
What's next, let's give x86-64 to retards from nvidia that can't even make an in-order core without causing a housefire?

>>61895541
>cherrypicking
except BF1's implementation of DX12 is garbage and both cards get bottlenecked by it, of course they're going to look more similar in performance.

How is Civ VI a cherrypick if it represents Vega relative to the NVIDIA cards in every graph but the BF1 one?

Fuck off with your literally cherrypicked graph you stupid AMD pajeet.

I wouldn't pay more than $400 for the 64

>>61895556
best i can give ya is tree fiddy

>YFW you didn't wait 1 year for this HOUSEFIRES garbage

>>61895556
I wouldn't pay even $200 for it.
I don't want my house to burn down.

so,uhm, why are these numbers look exactly like FE numbers?
Identically like FE? hmmmm

>>61895572
Yes. Poojeet lied about RX being faster than FE in gaymen.

>>61895456
580 is just an overclock 480.
just overclock your 480 and not break your drivers.

>>61895555
every other graph shows 1080 performance or better. Civ VI is an outlier.

nice reddit spacing, btw

>>61895585
>1080 perf
>at 400watts
Bravo RTG!

>>61895585
>1080 performance or better

We're talking about the regular Vega you retard, or are you actually trying to be proud of the fact that it takes an AIO overclock for Vega to compete with a ref 1080 using the garbage FE blower cooler?

>>61895585
>Says the man who used spacing

>>61895570
>not just underclocking it and get mad temps.
wew. i'll take it.

>>61895221
better than expected

>>61895508
>DX12

>>61895606
>it doesn't count

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inb4 but m-muh hardware scheduler

>>61895600
>1070 perf at 300watts
Bravo RTG!

Liquid has stupid power requirements for little gan IMHO. Air is still hungry but not as bad as it could have been. But it is a flop if you take the 1080 FE into consideration and how fucking late it is.

>>61895615
BF DX12 implementation is notoriously fucking shit. Everyone who plays BF1 is going to play BF1 in DX11 moron. Yet another case of a specific scenario that AMD pajeets can circlejerk over that the norms don't use. Fuck off shill.

>>61895619
Volta will have one, yes.

5 0 0 W A T T S
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>>61895572
>FE FireStrike = 21355
>64 Air FireStrike = 22306
what the fuck

What kind of PSU do you need for liquid cooled one? Over 1000W?

>>61895364
we dont want any more coinfags fuck off

L I T E R A L L Y worse than Fiji per clock.
How does one fuck up this hard?

>>61895630
only Nvidia performs bad in DX12.

>>61895643
Those driivers sure did fix it...not!

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>>61895670
Chinese engineering

>>61895672
That's objectively wrong

>>61895672
If Nvidia DX11 gets more frames and consistent performance than AMD DX12, what is the point of the latter? You can easily dig up 1080/ti DX11 performances now and go compare them to the Vega.

>>61895680
Same chinks made Fiji and Polaris.
Fucking hell such a disaster after Polaris, that was fucking decent.

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FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT

I hope all amdtards polluting the board during the last month with prepared pasta and slides commit suicide for cleaner /g/ and streets.

>>61895221
If they tried to make 1080ti tier card it might have actually burnt your house down.

>>61895690
b-but muh dx12 future proof!

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So its a side grade from my $330 980ti I bought 6 months ago on ebay??

>>61895723
It's a downgrade actually.

>>61895723
b-but it can't dx12 and async! hahha! e-enjoy ancient tech!

>b-but muh sandbagging
>b-but muh drivers
>b-but muh deliberately disabled HW features which would give 40% performance over FE and lower power consumption

>>61895729
BTFO waiting vega

>>61895723
>>61895729
>>61895746
>>61895761
quality shitposting.
it's at least 30% faster than a 980ti

>AMD made a GPU uarch for $200 million revenue quarterly market that is already claimed by CUDA
LMAO FUCKING PAJEETS.

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>>61895776
I know, right. pathetic

>>61895770
At double the power draw.

>>61895784
Don't worry, the meme man also makes a uarch for niche market that is about to be nuked by ASICs.
GPU manufacturers are so fucking retarded.

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/887736810625019910

>People actually believed this stupid Italian fucker

>>61895770
>we beat 3yo gpu while risking your house
WE DID IT /r/AMD

Ho-ly fuck, it took AMD 486mm^2 die clocked to the fucking moon to reach throttling nvidia's shitblower aka 1080 FE.
Fucking M A R V E L O U S.

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only 650 bucks for house fire 1070

>>61895811
>Ho-ly fuck, it took AMD 486mm^2 die
It's really impressive how little performance they got from that card. How much more expensive is Vega to make compared to Pascal?

>>61895830
Oh, the BoM for Vega10 would be pretty morbid.
486mm^2 die and interposer for it are not cheap.

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>>61895826
>$650

>>61895649
Probably 750W or even 850W to be safe, and only for a single card.

This is literally the worst GPU launch in recent history. Hell at least GF100 performed better than Cypress. This shit performs WORSE.
MUCH worse.
And Thermi housed fucking FP64.
This turd is pure FP32.

>>61895809
r/Amd
> waiting new drivers and new wolfenstein
> wanting new far cry
> nvidia show volta
>wanting navi just looks new version fine wine
> benchmark volta
> accepted nvida supremacy

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something is severely fucking wrong

Someone should interview Raja how the fuck this turd was even conceived.
Did they learn nothing from history?

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>>61895252
>>Total system power

>>61895893
Sir pls DELET DIS right fucking now

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Where does AMD go from here?

>>61895893
literally confirmed housefire, was msi or gigabyte saying that it draws lots of power back then?

>>61895909
MSI.

>>61895893
Jesus fucking christ. How the fuck can AMD fuck this one so badly?

>>61895893
D E L E T
E
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T

>>61895921
By not designing a GPU specifically for fucking gaymen.
For the only thing that matters for GPU.
Vega is a worse bottleneckfest than Fiji, and that was bad already.

>>61895935
Even if it wasn't for gaymen, fucking 500 TDP is fucking insane.

>>61895874
Raja came on board AMD when Vega was still in development. He should have just scrapped it but Lisa Su probably told him not to.

>>61895428
Dear god i do miss my days of fx5500 and 9600se.

>>61895949
And Navi is based on Vega.
RTG is literally dead in GPU market for the next 3-4 years.
>>61895944
It's +50% power limit.
Something that you can't even do on nvidia cards without resorting to shuntmodding.

>>61895696
Pretty sure AMD has two graphics teams. The team that did Polaris is now working on Navi.

>>61895908
lots of clean streets out there

>>61895975
No, Fiji/Polaris/Vega is the same team, RTG China.

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kek

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>>61895893
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61895971
Some retard is going to read a Nvidia guide about turning power limit to max is safe and apply it to his vega64 air cooled and burn his house down. You just know it. RIP.

>>61895995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5YJsMaT_AE

Shame that everyone worthwhile from ATi were booted in 2011, including Killebrew.

>>61895995
I like how the dude kneeling at the door don't seem to give a shit. Literally an AMD fag in denial.

What the fuck has been going in GPU threads lately? It's just a massive insufferable storm of "AYYYMD HOUSEFIRE" or "POOOOOJEEEETTTTTSSS XDDDDDD" or "WORSE THAN POLARISXDDDDDDDDDDDD"

And I bet that all the responses to this post will be exactly along these lines. Because you guys are just the most original joke makers aren't you?

>>61896058
But it's literally worse perf per clock than Polaris.

>>61895162
Nice results, if this card were released 12 months ago.

>>61896058
GPU releases are highlights of the year for lots of us.

>>61896023
This
One man doesn't make a product

Koduri won't make Navi a turnaround like Zen.
I said last year when people began talk of MCM GPUs that it's the dying throes of the graphics division, just like multi-chip GPUs were the death knell of 3dFX.

It doesn't mater how many small high yield chips they can get to function on a single card if those chips can't perform well compared to the competition.

>>61896058
12 months of Vega hype built up to this moment. Enjoy it.

>>61896058
amd spent 3 years to make a gpu that is ~20% better than a fury x but runs at 400-500W

>>61896058
AMDfags since april 2016 say just wait vega will kick butt pascal and makes poor vega.

15 months nVidia user play and joy, meanwhile AMDfags just waiting in fucking corner.

>>61896066
We get it. Stop spamming it in every thread you insufferable children.

>>61896080
>>61896092
>>61896085
Way to do exactly what I said you would. So goddamned predictable.

>>61896102
>Way to do exactly what I said you would. So goddamned predictable.

>complains about idiot spam
>response gives actual stats
>claims that is the exact same thing as idiot spam
did you get heatstroke from bitcoin mining

>>61896102
>You are not allowed to discuss GPU on a board meant for technology because I say so
>>>/r/amd

>>61896075
They basically need to nuke current RTG (sans driver dudes, these got decent) and reassmble old ATi team.
Shame they lost Moorhead forever.

I'm going to bed to cry.

>>61896106
discuss is an odd choice of word there

>>61896115
me too

>>61896106
>Discussing = rampant shitposting and MAYMAYSXDXDXDXDXD
k
>>61896105
I didn't ask for stats retard. I asked why all retards have come out of the framework and I got the same tired responses that have been repeated like 10 times in this very thread.

And just to turn the knife a bit, they're rumoured to have amazing hash rates for mining.

>>61896117
This has how 4chan discussion always have been. How new are you? Not saying it is good or bad but it isn't the type of discussion you are looking for, I already linked you to r/amd.

Any analysis of where are the bottlenecks? They could just double Polaris and it would be faster than 1080 ti.

>>61896127
people are constantly shitposting in gpu threads because AMD has released the GPU equivalent of bulldozer, idiot

HBM on customer grade GPU was a mistake?

>>61896127
>I asked why all retards have come out of the framework
And we gave you the answer you fucking bloodly imbecile. AMDfags have been shitposting for 1 year about Vega. Now that it is a confirmed turd, everyone is shitposting them back. That is how it works on 4chan. Why are you so fucking bloodly stupid?

>>61896135
>Any analysis of where are the bottlenecks?
Since clocking the core to housefire levels does practically nothing - it's memory.
Or something in the pipeline chokes somewhere.

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>>61896130
>"AYYMD RELEASED RUMORS SAYING HASH RATE WAS AMAZING"
>turns out that was another lie

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/896821929654571008

I guess it's back to Waiting™

>>61896135
Diminishing returns probably. Size doesn't scale with performance past a certain point.

>>61896132
>This has how 4chan discussion always have been
Perhaps in the many /g/ generals, but shut the fuck up with that whole generalizing. Not all of 4chan discussion is or has been this way. It's always existed, yes, but it's more pervasive now

Fucking GG and Election shit has ruined this goddamned site save for a few boards.

Also ur a fagget

>>61896152
That's not the case for nVidia.
GM200 -> GP102 was a big jump that scaled well.
>>61896140
It killed Quadro, but that's not a large market.
NVDA barely posts $200million revenue quarterly from it.

>>61896157
>Fucking GG and Election shit has ruined this goddamned site save for a few boards.
Fucking newfag that wasn't here for woodscrews and pork shoulder detected.

>>61896132
How new are you newfriend? There can be actual discussion about GPUs here without resorting to Facebook-tier memes and /v/ level tech understanding. You seem to love those dank maymays child.
>>61896140
Nice persecution complex new friend.
>>61896137
>He does the same thing for a second time.
You aren't very bright, are you?

>>61896165
No one cares about workstation card aside from using them to shit post about brand loyalty. A large part of /g/ actually cares for consumer grade cards

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>>61895995
FTFY

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>>61895209

>>61896181
>A large part of /v/ actually cares for consumer grade cards
FTFY

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>>61895221

>>61896171
>How new are you newfriend?
Older than you because you seem to have missed the days that lead up to the release of Fermi. Fermi was actually worse because they had dedicated tripfags for those. Does the name inElite ring any bells? No? I thought so you fucking newfag.

oh boy here we go with /v/idiot excuse. this is you pajeets. accept it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s14ytWO3TgcL

>>61895944
Hey the wattage joos want all of us to replace the 500w psu someday ya ? 1000w psu exists for this reason.

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>>61895339

vega turns out to be a shitty card. Should I wait forever?

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hwhat about the 56?

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>>61895506

What do you expect from typical madshills?

>>61895221
GODDAMN

>>61896237
>lower than 1070 performance for 60watts more
Why?
Hell Vega11 would be worse than Polaris lmao.

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>>61895893
>>61895221

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>>61895567

ikr

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>>61895680

I thought pajeets did it?

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>>61896237


>>61896249
>lower than 1070 performance
nice meme

>>61896275
No, it's RTG China.
The Pajeet himself is very competent, the mooks and management are meh, since everyone valuable from ATi was booted in 2011. It's a skeleton crew.
>>61896281
>firestrike scores
Let's see actual games.

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>>61895893

mfw

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>>61895893
>>61895991
The power plant is on fire

>>61896294
it doesn't say firestrike

>>61896203
Fermi was a disaster in every sense of the word and deserved the shitposting it got. Just like Bulldozer. But the reason for why they were bad were apparent. What's the reason for Vega's under performing hmm? I've yet to see anyone actually discuss Vega in this thread other than to post "le epic dank maymays xDDDDDDDDDDD"

When does the NDA actually lift?

>>61896314
yes we know you guys love to confuse and make tons of lies talking about technologies very few if any of us understand truly

>>61896314
Fermi was a disaster because nVidia was too retarded to properly work with TSMC to unfuck their shitty 40nm node.
ATi did that.
Too bad everyone half-decent from ATi was booted in 2011.
Fuck Rory Read.

>>61896319
9 AM EST

>>61896319
couple hours

>>61896314
>Moving goalpost
Nah you can fuck off right. Vega shitposting is mild now compared to Fermi. Remember that was from a time where there was no captcha and no generals. Literally page 1 of /g/ was filled with housefires, woodscrews, 1.7% and pork shoulder memes. But you don't know that because you weren't here. Again i repeat. Fuck. Off. Newfag.

>>61895594
oh gee i wonder why vega wants so much power..
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-16gb,5128-6.html

>>61896340
Hmm where's the gaymen perf then?
Up pojeet's ass.

>>61896294
Did you even bother looking at the image for more than half a second you autist?

>>61896319
six hours

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>>61896185

savage

>>61896146
pcper saying that vega fe doesnt have that hashrate
amd saying that rx will have updated bios to fix some of the memory problem
gee i wonder who is lying

6AM PST, 9AM EST probably

>>61896363
AMD said nothing about "memory problems". They never acknowledged them.

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who here fermi posting!?

>>61896339
Way to attack my argument? I never said that the Vega shitposting was as bad as the Fermi shitposting. Improve your reading comprehension skills before trying to attack my argument you fucking retard.

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>>61896294
>The Pajeet himself is very competent,

Hi pajeet

>>61896385
That Pajeet designed some kickass GPUs.
He's okay in my book. RTG China is not okay though, 3 duds in a row.

>>61896367
they didnt had to say ANYTHING we know that the regression came from the culling but the culling wasnt working with the hbcc

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who /immediateorder/ here

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while you guys are arguing about his power hungry turd he is out in the clubs getting any women he wants and basically ur fucking stupid

>>61896374
You want proper discussion? Fuck off to r/amd. People have linked that to you multiple times. GPU discussion on /g/ has always been like this for better or for the worse. Don't like it? Again r/amd. Hilarious you dare to call me the newfag when you are the one who is new as fuck.

You don't like GPU discussion sprinkled with memes and shitposting? r/amd. Who the fuck are you to come here and demand change?

>>61896397
We don't know what causes the regression.
We don't know anything concrete about Vega's problems.
We don't know why this turd was ever made.
Cutress needs to make a "history of Vega" article.

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>>61896395

>triggered shitskin

Just admit that most pajeets are really bad at coding, programing, inventing, etc...

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>>61896406

fix'd

>>61896414
>reddit spacing
Убeйcя. Быcтpo. Peшитeльнo.

I hope someone is running blender opencl render tests on 2.79 RC1. Together with Red's CEO saying adobe will be updating after effects to support vega, it would make a good content creation card with some gaming.

>>61896423
Hacocaч.

>>61896437
Workstation tasks are the only thing Vega excels at.
But why won't you opt for nvidia card then? CUDA is fucking everywhere.

>>61896408
>le epik /r/amd maymay xD
How original. You'll make someone laugh someday. Go ahead and call me a newfag and tell me to go to /r/amd again. Maybe I'll finally do it.

There is no discussion of Vega going on here idiot. "Sprinkled with memes and shitposting" my ass.

>>61896444
Хyя бля, мapтыхи c cocaчa пpилeзли cpaть. A чтo нa cocaкe твopитcя?

>>61896458
crimea = ukraine!

>>61896463
Low effort shitposting my friend.
Better post another crying wojak edit.

>>61896421
nice, gives a good chuckle.

>>61896456
Cry more faggot. You come into this thread acting like a blazing faggot and then exposed yourself as a newfag and now you are going to cry because this thread is exactly what /g/ is like? What are you? Some kind of moron?

>>61896458
> Хyя бля
You should know it better desu. Kindly fuck off w/your special snowflake language.

>>61896478
cyka

>>61896476
OOOOooo he called me a newfag again. Do it again. And I fail to see how I "exposed myself", but I know that the answer is going to be very retarded.

Like I said in my original post, you can have actual discussion about hardware in /g/ without the entire thread being a dumpster fire fit for /trash/, but you probably stay away from those threads because they hurt your wittle brain.

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>All this shitposting
This is why I love you /g/.

>>61896510
Non-ching-chong benches are coming.
Expect MORE shitposting.

When is volta?

>>61896501
>discussion
how new

>>61896520
Early Q2 2018 at best, since there's no competition.

>>61896501
all you guys mean by discussing details is to give hope to clueless fucks with statements like "drivers will fix memory bandwidth" its old

>>61896510
Can't wait for the Risitas Pooga videos on Youtube today

It will be glorious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruCr6OXbK5E

>>61896501
>you can have actual discussion about hardware in /g/ without the entire thread being a dumpster fire fit for /trash/
/g/ has always been like this idiot. The fact that you think otherwise only shows how fucking new you are.

Man you are really butthurt about being a newfag huh? What you gonna do? Cry more? All your bitching isn't gonna change the fact that when the NDA lifts, more shitposting is gonna happen. Hilarious you actually think /g/ is "different" and it is the "newfags" ruining it with epik memes.

>>61896520
nvidia said it's not coming in the foreseeable future so definitely no earlier than march

>>61896530
My-my, let's not pretend this place got worse 2014-onwards.

>>61896501
Oh man you are going to be so butthurt when the actual reviews come in. Adopt a trip so I can filter it when you start crying about memes later on. How about InElite?

>>61896521
Year starts with a 2.

>>61895455
Hi, pajeet.

>>61896545
4chan as a whole got worse. But shitposting from both sides during a GPU release isn't new or a side effect of /g/ being worse.

This is what you get if you let the B-team make a new GPU and put a poo in charge of them. Fucking idiots, they learned nothing from bulldozer. This is exactly the same mistake.

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>>61896528

that video triggers the pajeets

>>61896578
The poo made R300.
R300 nearly killed nVidia.
Both companies produced several duds in history.

>>61896369
555m here

>>61896530
Yes, every thread in this place must be equivalent in quality to /trash/. Good threads are an impossibility. Oh wait. >>61667604
Thanks for calling me a newfag, I enjoy predicting what idiots will do. :^)
>>61896549
>Implying that I'm going to stick around in these threads.
Nah, enjoy your shitposting. I don't care about Vega at all, I just wanted to poke the minds of the shitposters a little and what I found was expectantly lacking.

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>Chink GPU division
>Pajeet Software division

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>61896614
>Poor little anon comes to 4chan and expects not to find shitposting

>>61896621
Not everything is supposed to be shitposting.
Yes, even in the shithole that is 4chan.

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>>61896614

>>61896633
>Poor little anon expects discussion in an AMD GPU release thread

>>61896621
I expect the threads on my Mongolian throat singing appreciation forum to have shitposts, I just wanted to question the idiocy for once. I either ignore it or leave the thread.

>>61895628

I imagine the Liquid version will be quieter than the air version.

>>61896510
it's just one guy

the better question is why you marketers even try to persuade the shitposters. your time is better spent elsewhere.

>>61896656
>Why do people shitpost on 4chan?
:thinking:

>>61896670
>4chin exists solely for shitposting
?

>>61896659
That's good because people will need to hear your screams of fire.

>>61895162
It rivals a 1080 which isn't that bad, but it seems they won't be that competitive with their pricing and then there's the power draw. Will have to see what vendors will be actually selling them for desu.

>>61896685
$800 for liquid

>>61896676
Not sure what the ? is for.
If you think otherwise I am sure there is an alternative site called reddit just for people like you.

>>61896704
>l-lebbit!
Nice argumentation you have here.

>>61896697
Well yeah the liquid version seemed like a joke just from the MSRP.

>>61895555
Are you saying that fucking civ vi is a good optimized graphic benchmark?
Have you seen how it looks?

>>61896712
No it is not an argument. It is a suggestion. It is clear you are fucking stupid and seem to don't understand the culture of /g/ threads so reddit is perfect for you. You can go there and downvote all the shitpost so you don't see them. I am not sure why you want to stick to 4chan and then bitch like a little girl about shitpost especially when it is an AMD thread knowing it attracts shitposters like flies to dung specifically due to AMD vs Nvidia. The same applies to AMD/Intel/Android etc threads that have 2 competing brands.

>>61896733
>l-lebbit!
Like fucking clockwork.

>>61896451
It's true that nvidia cards gets better support out of the box for commercial applications and even oss like blender's cycle renderer. But since AMD is starting to gain support from the professional market, it's interesting to see how applications will take advantage of vega's unique features like the double FP16 performance and high bandwidth cache controller.

>>61896740
Now this is shitposting. Seems like you gotten a hang of it. Keep it up and you might fit in.

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>>61896741

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/

The butthurt will be glorious once the reviews are up

>>61896773
You should read the review thread that is already up. There is already butthurt in the thread.

>>61895242
You need glasses

>>61896752
FP16 is mostly useful for meme learning, and nothing beats CUDA there. HBCC is interesting, but niche, just like whole GPU visualisation segment.

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>>61896753
>y-you are trying to fit in I s-swear

>>61896799
No one besides retards (or ITX retards) buys blowers.

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Why even bother making vega cards with blower cooler?

>>61896793
Now you can ask yourself why you shitpost.
The answer was so simple. To find out why shitposters shitpost, you simply have to become one and ask yourself. I hope the answer you sought satisfied you.

>>61896808
so refrence cards don't fuck the card makers or w/e. that was always my assumption

>>61896815
The one who started shitposting is (You), anon.

>>61896827
Teach a man to shitpost and he learns the art of shitposting.
Young padawan, I was merely training you in the art of shitposting so that you might seek the answer to your question.

>>61895221
Holy fucking shit AMD HOUSEFIRE memes are back.

>>61895162
Vega is the architecture overhaul at the transistor level thats it.

Next gen navi is when they go after nvidia seriously in the top end GPU market. Thats when they take this new design and reduce it to tiny 2000 shader dies running at lower voltages to max power efficiency. They then stitch the dies together on a package with HBM the same way they are stitching 8core ryzen dies together in packages for 16-core/32-core cpus.

So what you will see is Volta which is Pascal on a better process with 10-15% higher clocks and a new 5400 shader behemoth at the top end and all designs knocked down a price tier competing with a brand new never before seen mesh GPU design. AMD will scale the design up or down to go against each performance category and then price them accordingly. From AMD you are likely gonna see 4000/8000/12000/16000 shader designs with fully integrated HBM2 and maybe even HBM2+.

>>61895850
typical AMDrone waiting

>>61896863
FERMI HOUSEFIRE
1.7 YIELD
WOOD SCREWS

when is it actually for sale?

>>61896876
>old memes
stop living in the past gramps

>>61896883
Preorder drops when NDA lifts

>>61896883
NOW

>>61895988
RTG programmers are based in India

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>>61896888
>Pre-ordering

>>61896808
They can fit in nicely in AIO PCs like iMac.

>>61896872
n-next time g-guys!
j-just wait another y-year!
and another...
and another...................

>>61896872
>HBM2+
That's called HBM3.
And Navi is DOA since its based on Vega, and Vega is a bottleneckfest even at 4k ALUs.

>>61896898
You pre-order because miners will snatch up the stock. If it is shit, you can just sell it at the original price. And if it is good, you can use it or sell it higher (for mining). Win-win.

>>61896888
what fucking time you shitnigger

>>61896905
Navi isn't due till 2019

>>61896905
It took nVidia 5 gens of shit and pure mediocrity to hit gold with Maxwell.

>>61895893
Kindly do the needful, sir,

>>61896872
> Next gen navi is when they go after nvidia seriously
Oh yeah, so now they only pretending to go after Nvidia.

>>61896918
Mean. I am not answering your question.

>>61896872
I'm really going to enjoy watching leather jacket man fuck AMD again.

The delusion of you AMDrones makes it so sweet.

>>61896919
Wasn't Vega supposed to be released sooner?

>>61896894
Programmers have nothing to do with very much flawed hardware design.

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HAHAHAHAHA
I hope one of you fag's screenshoted the site

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>>61895162
>d-drivers will fix it
>s-some features aren't enabled yet you'll see..!
TOPEST OF KEKS!

>>61896930
>Poor volta was just a j-j-joke

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>>61896934

>>61896942
>amd damage control

>>61896930
Right now they are hitting only one market seriously, it's fucking visualisation.

>vega is a flop
>still sells like hotcakes because of miners
Toppest of keks

>>61896967
Miners would never buy Vega as long as Polaris cards and 1070 exist.

>>61895221
why are the Nvidiots pointing out 500W on the liquid cooled card on absolute maximum power like that means something? Vega 64 air is 330W

>>61896967
>sell like hotcakes
Cause they literally are

>>61896973
>Miners would never buy Vega
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH

>>61896978
>330watts for barely 1080 perf is okay
?

Even if Vega was 500% better than 1080Ti minerfags would still buy them all.

>>61896999
Miners won't touch Vega or 1080/1080ti as long as Polaris cards and 1070s exist.

>>61896999
Nice logic

Vega 56 doesn't look that bad, but it's a shame we won't see them because of miners.

>>61897006
You'll see soon enough how wrong you are.

>>61897011
Vega56 looks extremely bad.
It'll look even worse the moment 1070 returns to MSRP pricing.

>>61896942
L O C K E D
O
C
K
E
D

I have that full chinese review saved. where should I upload?

>>61897029
Take a screenshot and upload it here quick before the thread dies.

>>61897029
screenshot then upload here

>>61897029
No point. The NDA just lifted.

>>61897017
Isn't Vega 56 somewhere between 1070 and 1080 in performance and supposed to be similary priced?

>>61897041
seriously? how long till benchmarks? I need to sleep and study for a final ;_;

>>61896999
500% worse you mean?

>>61897054
If it was 500% worse not even minerfags would buy it.

>>61897029
Make a new thread and post them

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>>61897050
Go to sleep. When you wake up there will be videos all over the place.

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>amdpajeets shit the board for over a year
>vega is turd
>l-let's not shit on AMD guise and have a civil discussion
FUCKING GOLD

>>61897029
It's uploaded here:
https://videocardz.com/71984/first-review-of-radeon-rx-vega-64-air-and-liquid-is-here

>>61897096
Cheers. I made sure to archive this time.

>>61897050
Anon, go to sleep, and study well. Proper education is as important as shitposting

>>61897127
>Proper education is as important as shitposting

>>61896223
why not just buy a good card that is out on the market right now? why side with brands and shit? don't be silly.

this is like buying a Ryzen for gaming, or an i7 for seriously parallel work.

>>61895893
ouch

>>61896617
now that you mention, yeah, the board was full of "MUH DX12", "MUH ASYNC" when the 480 came. I kept saying that it will only be a major thing years later...

turns out it never became a major thing.
Mantlel the second.

>>61897041
>The NDA just lifted.
NDA lifts at 9AM EST, which is a bit over 4 hours from now

>>61896697

too slow than $599 1080FE


AMD failed.

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barely faster than GTX 1080 while $100 more over MSRP and loses to the 1080 in higher resolutions.

>>61897293
pajeet pls

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On the paper, it sounds very powerful, however, IRL, it is shitty. Blame pajeets' shitty coding on the driver.

Fire all shitskins!

If tech influencers don't shit on Vega like they did on Nigvidya's 400 series and Skylake-X and skirt around to not offend AMDrones then they are shills.