can I have 4TB of disk space in this thing?
ask your local tech support
>>61887328
yes
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000LM024/dp/B01LZMUNGR
>>61887348
fuck that's great, lad
http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-senpai/barracuda-new/files/barracuda-2-5-ds1907-1-1609us.pdf
5TB too
>>61887328
Is this the perfect machine?
You can do it with an HDD for $150 or a 4TB SSD would run you about $1500.
What is included in that box? CPU? Anything else? Can you upgrade it over time?
>>61887441
it's not bad but it's fucking overpriced like an apple product. it's literally only worth half its cost.
>>61887348
Jesus Christ seeing this makes me proud of how far personal computers have come over the last years. With this thing in mind, just think of all the 10/10 classified stuff that could be floating around tech/gov firms. It's a wonder we're not having space stations all over our solar system yet.
>>61887482
Everything is soldered
>>61887482
Its laptop hardware. Only RAM, Drives and maybe CPU can be exchanged.
>>61887441
for me it is. very small, silent and powerful.
>>61887482
it's a barebone, so everything is included except memory and storage
it supports notebook memory and m.2 ssds and the taller versions 2.5 hdds
it's basically a fucking laptop in the form of a small case and no built in display or keyboard
>>61887482
Only can upgrade RAM memory or storage capacity
http://nucblog.net/2017/04/kaby-lake-i7-nuc-review/
>>61887504
>>61887511
>>61887532
So you can't upgrade the CPU. I have a normal SSD in my PC right now. Can I use it in that thing?
Also
>Intel® NUC Kit NUC7i7BNHX1 with 16 GB Intel® Optane™ Memory
What the hell is "Optane Memory"?
>>61887617
Google it faggot
>>61887617
> What the hell is "Optane Memory"?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-optane-technology.html
Something like SSD with even lower access latency.
>>61887328
Are you the same guy that was asking if an Intel nuc was ok to buy?
>>61887617
Optane is sort of a cross between RAM and an SSD. It has faster speeds than SSDs but it's more expensive per GB (though less $ than RAM per GB). And it's nonvolatile unlike RAM so you can shut off power and it'll still keep data stored like an SSD
>>61887652
>16GB
Too small. And ONLY m.2 SSDs? Why ...
>>61887662
Nope. When?
>>61887681
>ONLY m.2 SSDs?
You can probably put a 2.5 ssd in the talle version just fine, bu then where do you put the hdd?
>>61887681
Afaik it does have sata for normal HDDs/ssds
Does a PC with dedicated GPU exist in a similar form factor?
>>61887713
Exactly. You can't have both. I'm not excited anymore.
>>61887742
What's your problem with m.2? It doesn't cost more than a 2.5 (or at least not by much) and it's faster
>>61887681
> Too small.
It's almost certainly not supposed to replace bulk storage HDD or tape drives at this point.
This is for programs and databases and such. And you can fit a lot of that into xx GB. (For example, my current everyday file manager is around 4.5MB, the terminal is 95kb - including docs and all that - and I didn't really minimally install them).
Surely they'll also sell bigger drives eventually.
>>61887767
It's not any faster unless it's an NvME drive and they're certainly more expensive than their SATA counterparts
>>61887713
>bu then where do you put the hdd
USB is an option. You can get cases for 5x3.5" drives, which is 50TB if you want.
Or just on your network, you do have a certainly reasonably fast GBit Ethernet port.
I have actually been thinking.
What the fuck is the point of a full Desktop these days anyways? No need for a fucking Physical Drive Bay, just GPU, CPU, etc.
>>61887921
NUCs have no GPU. The internal GPU sucks balls.
>>61887921
Tower PCs are only for gamers these days. Those machines require decent cooling, a decent PSU with active cooling, a dedicated graphics card with cooling etc. Plus, you can squeeze in any number of HDDs if you want
>>61887328
Is that a gamecube?
>>61887921
> What the fuck is the point of a full Desktop these days anyways?
Of a desktop / server tower? That you can use fast parts, and mount a significant number of them (for example, 10 HDD and a big GPU, with all the power cables and all that). Both of which you can't do in a NUC.
>>61887485
these youngins don't appreciate it
>>61887975
>>61887947
>>61887939
I am speaking for general consumer/gaymer use.
>>61887996
Sure, many people are of course just fine with a smartphone in terms of processing power and storage and all that. They'll let others run entirely all the server they use.
Which is why they already primarily use such devices, yes.
And maybe more of them will switch to such Atom / ARM mini PC things - but actually, they generally aren't even looking to upgrade their old laptops, and will prefer a laptop all-in-one thing again IF they actually upgrade.
I have pic related and I want it to be even smaller
>>61888064
That said, gamers do NOT want to use these all in one media PC.
Obviously these small machines don't take the big CPU, big GPU, and their big coolers and power supplies. Nor are the parts on the mainboards etc. nearly as powerful.
It's surely often a bit of hobby vanity, but gamers DO tend to use pretty good hardware, particularly at the moment when they buy their PC it's usually good.
>>61888077
No problem if you don't need particularly much hardware.
There are TV box things with pretty decent i7 CPU and 8GB RAM and all that. And cheaper ones with Celerons or Atoms.
>>61888204
storage space is the problem
>>61888325
You can have a few TB of storage internally, which is often already enough.
If you have more, you can externalize to a NAS that then can be anywhere where it's not in the way.
Or an USB3 / SATA single or multi HDD dock / hotswap thing that you can use when you need it. But that tends to be less convenient on its own.
>>61887328
You could have TEN
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178997
>>61888460
They only fit 2.5" laptop hard drives so no you can't. You can fit 4 or 5 though.
I have an i5 one I use for Plex and play some RTS games on super low. It works fine.
>>61887484
still planing to buy intel nuc skull canyon
>>61887328
These things seem like an elegant way to set up a little home server. Anybody have much experience with NUCs in that kind of role?
With SSD gouging are mechanical drives relevant again?
>>61889866
I can play a few indie games on my Brix i3 (i3-4310U i think?) and those work perfectly fine,
I am leaning towards building an ITX APU system some time in the future however.
Someone tell me why Hybrid drives are bad
>>61887532
does anybody ever upgrade CPUs?
by the time I'm questioning the speed of my CPU, i generally upgrade to the next generation.
ram and hdd space is obvious.
you can double your ram and hdd space when you upgrade.
i don't see more than a 10% increase when upgrading a CPU.
>>61891088
HDDs were never not relevant if your desire is high capacity storage. SSDs did make them irrelevant for the drives you use for like the 90th percentile of your time, though. I'm thinking of getting a pair or two of 6TB drives in raid 1 for my bigger storage needs, and then keep my stuff I use all of the time in my SSDs.
>>61887741
There are some but they are expensive.
https://www.zotac.com/ro/product/mini_pcs/zbox-e-series/all
http://www.gigabyte.com.ro/Mini-PcBarebone/GB-BXi7G3-760-rev-10#ov
or Intel NUC NUC6i7KYK with external GPU via DisplayPort.
>>61890642
Me too. But even on a discount (it's already oldish) it's still expensive, about 6-700 bucks, excluding the RAM and SSD. So basically if you factor in RAM and SSD you're getting into 1k bucks territory, which is overpriced as fuck.
You can get a decent laptop for 1k. And you even have a display on it.
With a NUC, you still need other external stuff, display, keyboard, mouse.
I'm curious what is the real cost of the components. Since it's just a laptop CPU with integrated graphics, there's not much else that could cost as much on that board.
Could be that having DP, which is rare on htpcs, requires a license.
>>61888077
My friend has one of these sitting in my place for an offsite backup, has around 16tb i think in place
Personally, I'd rather have 1TB of data with 4x redundancy. But that's just me.
>>61893199
it's all the power of a laptop inside a 4x4x2 case
laptops= paying for portability
NUCs= paying for table space
just mount it to your monitors VESA connectors
>>61887328
Hol' up, not to your rain on your parade
>>61887348
>>61887409
But those drives are 15mm thick, and
>One SATA3 port for connection to 2.5" HDD or SSD (up to 9.5 mm thickness)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc7i7bnh-brief.html
AFAIK the largest 9.5mm thick 2.5" drive is 2TB.
>>61893199
you can get a decent laptop for under 300
if it's a 2.5" drive, sure.
currently got a 2tb 5400rpm 128mb cache Seagay hard drive from an old laptop, as well as a 250gb Samsung 850 in M.2 form factor. only have it as m.2 because got it for $30
shits pretty comfy desu
don't worry lads I have a quick, simple, and cheap solution to fit 4tb in this NUC here
http://a.co/aRIexom
>>61887328
You could build something a little bit larger with a faster pentium/i3/i5 with itx and sfx psu and htpc case at the same price of a mid range NUC.
Beekeeper here.
Can't even begin to tell you how confusing it was to keep hearing about all this Intel NUC shit when it first came out.