/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>61876235
Why? There was none in the catalog.

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Wow good timing. I resorted to /wsr/ for advice on my first build, and someone nicely pointed out OP made one.

I attempted for an 800 dollar build for gaming and for CAD. How did I do for the first time? Is there any where I can improve or recommendations? I would love to be able to squeeze more power out of it since right now pcpartpicker has me at 770 and I don't mind going over 800 much.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTz7LD

Say I want to stream on Twitch as a career? Around what specs should I aim for? Or is it just generally like PC's in the 1000 range pretty much?

I'm working on an eBay build, already got an HD7850 for cheap. What CPU should I be looking for, and FX series?

Been out of the loop for awhile. Why are i5's not recommended? Also, I was lead to believe Ryzen was a meme and a letdown so why are they so popular?

>>61876657
Ryzen is great, but make sure to really research RAM/MOBO

>>61876574
1050ti for gaming? maybe at low resolutions at low settings. go for an rx 580 at least, if you can squeeze it, a 1060 6gb.

>>61876657
Is this disinfo shill: the post?

>>61876657
https://youtu.be/2_fAzBB_oAQ

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So I'm moving into an apartment for coming year of college. Unfortunately my landlord doesn't have the room I'm renting rigged for an ethernet connection, which means I have to buy a wifi adapter for my desktop. I've been looking at PCI adapters, and it got me thinking to just get a new CPU and MOBO with wifi included.

Should I? Here's what I'm running with now, is it time to start upgrading? Specifically, the MOBO and CPU?

>>61876654
Man, building a Craigslist/eBay build is painful. All those great deals that you don't need/can't afford...
Good luck mang.

>>61876607
Get a ryzen 7, you need those extra cores. GPU doesn't really matter for streaming, just get whichever one gives you a smooth experience. Gamersnexus did a vide about streaming a week or so ago, you could check that out.

>>61876948
It's an option, yes. You'll need to replace that CPU soon if you want to do anything remotely taxing, so might as well do it now. You won't get good gaming performance without replacing the graphics card though, so if you care about that and are on a tight budget then blowing everything on a new processor is not the smartest idea.

>>61877002
I was planning to just start upgrading now, and do it piece be piece.
I was imagining to start with the CPU/MOBO, then get a new GPU, then SSD, then case, and just carry over my PSU.
So the smartest option is just buy a PCI wifi adapter?

I want to upgrade my GPU, I currently have a radeon hd 7850. I've been looking at the GTX 1060 6gb, or the RX 580. My question is, do you think the price of these will go down once Vega comes out?

>>61877028
>So the smartest option is just buy a PCI wifi adapter?
or just get a motherboard with built in wifi

>>61876948

Ultimately I think it is a budget decision. PCI cards are cheap, a new mobo+CPU+RAM is obviously way more. While your old i5 doesn't appear to be overclockable, I know people that get by fine on an i5 2400 Dell Optiplex. Old i5s are still fine for 1080p gaming if you're a gamer (Although you may look into a new GPU when prices fall again)

Do we know anything about gpu price drops? Right now my r9 380 is still doing ok, might drop a setting here and there, but I'm kinda looking at some replacement. From what I know something similar to 380 now would be 1060/580, but right now those are extremely overpriced. Is there any info about volta and new mid range cards?

>>61877039
likely, just wait as the release date is pretty close.

vega apparently has very good hash rates. If i had to guess 580s should at least be available at 250$ again, but dropping back to 170-190 is unlikely.

>>61877078
Yeah, I noticed this bitcoin bullshit has jacked up the prices. Is there any consensus on when they should start dropping? I'll just live with my setup as is and buy the pieces for the new one over the coming months.

>>61877028
If you're going to replace your motherboard soon then the most cost effective option is replacing it now without buying additional hardware. It just means that you'll have to wait a bit before getting the new graphics card to improve your framerates.

If that wait takes too long in your opinion then get the wifi card and a new graphics card now. It depends on how much excess income you earn and what level of hardware you aim for.

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>inb4 i refresh amazon in 24 hours and vega is already sold out after a few minutes

>>61877161
Well the wifi card is happening regardless, I'll transfer it to the new build once the new one is done.
If I buy a new mobo I'll have to get a new CPU, unless I just shelf it until I get the CPU, as I'd buy one to use with a ryzen chip.

>>61877195
Gigabyte has B350 ITX board with wifi.

>>61877195
New mobo also means new RAM, which the price has gone up on. WiFi card is the smartest investment imo. You can always resell or reuse it later.

>>61877245
What's the catalyst behind RAM going up now?

>>61877257
shortages in NAND flash memory. Same thing is affecting the price of SSDs.

>>61877257
Just good ol' Supply v. Demand iirc. Something like the NAND chips are used in phones, SSDs, and RAM. Apple has a new phone soon...

>>61877329
>>61877324
Truly the worst time to upgrade/buy new pc. Prices of ram/ssd/gpu through the roof

>>61876220
Does anybody know what speeds RAM runs at on Ryzen 7 1700x?
They said 2667 MHz but they said that for the 1600 and I got over 3000.

>>61876679
you do realize a 580 is better than a 1060

>>61877433
In my experience it's more dependent upon the mobo and its BIOS. I am currently at 3200 MHz with my latest BIOS update. I haven't seen many going above 3200 though.

>>61877461
Thanks. That is good to know.

Just got an AM4-5300 and fan for $8, what the fuck do I do with this?

>>61877467
Sell it?

>>61877484
Not make a shitty build?

>>61876220
just buy a computer dont go threw the trouble of building a computer is cheaper and safer to just buy one. i suggest a macbook personally

>>61877485
Not worth it.

>>61877002
Thanks! I just wanted to know a general pathway so I can build around that.

>>61877511
That's not very fun of you.

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My old Dell L800CXE retro system blew its ps after 16 yrs. I know dell totally fucked with the atx wiring back in those days so that if you tried to swap everything into a new case with psu you'd end up frying the mobo/components. So I hunted around and came across a converter cable that fixes Dell's screwed up wiring and allows a standard ATX ps to be used with existing parts. Question is has anyone ever used such a cable before? Theory behind it is sound so I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I know that back then there was no such thing as "80+" energy efficiency ratings so I dunno how modern psu's would take to an old board from 2001.

>>61877511
Fine have fun with it! I've messed around with some APU builds, and in 2017, I just don't have the creativity to find a use for them. HTPCs are a meme but you could try that. Try to make some kind of server or NAS setup if you get a mobo with gigabit ethernet.

In my experience though, FM2 boards tend to be unreliable.

>>61877680
I could get the cheapest coomponents possible and a 1337 gaymur case and try to sell it for like $200.

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hello please rate

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-Corsair 300R
-CX750 750w
-MSI 990FXA GAMING
-FX 8350
-16 GB HyperX Fury 1866mhz
-Re-using Radeon HD7750 from my old rig
-Cooler Master Hyper TX3

I've got everything except my CPU and RAM, been buying parts for cheap because poor. Can't wait to start building.

>>61877800
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>>61877800
Rating depends on goal and price range. Tell us what you wqnt with this and your budget.

>>61877562
if its one of those 24 pin to 8 pin mobo adapters they work fine.

>>61877800
wat the fak

>>61877834
>he doesnt want a raid 0 with 10x 256GB shark cards

Well, I was going to use my new 5400 to make a terrible mini-itx build, but after seeing motherboard prices I might just try to resell it.

Any opinions on getting a refurbished 1060 for 200 american dollars?

Trying to make a decent gaming rig with it.

>>61877806
>FX 8350

Is there any way you could scrape together 80$ for a b350 am4 motherboad and 110$ an r3 1200?

Better build, better speed, much better energy efficieny, and a modern socket so you could upgrade again until 2020.

>>61877915
3GB or 6GB?

Nothing wrong with used components, so long as you see them working, but the 3GB is pretty fucking terrible and you are better off with a 1050TI.

>>61877939
He'd also need $85 for 8GB og fast ram

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>>61877997
The RAM situation is bullshit, I remember back in 2016 it was like 80 bucks for a 16 gig kit.

What's the best ultracheap CPU? I'm talking <$50.

>>61877954
thanks. i was looking at a 3gb gpu, but it makes sense of it being shit.

>>61878018
NAND shortages are affecting ram and SSD prices

>>61878090
Artificial shortages

>>61878119
wouldn't surprise me. They do the same shit with diamonds. They're actually common as dirt.

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>>61878138
Plus it's old DDR3 that's been sitting around, I'm just lucky I got my MSI board for $100 with the way things are looking, and I don't even care for gaming shit, Originally wanted a 990FX-UD3, but everyone's being an asshole.

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Already have a good comp & want to get a laptop that won't quite make me want to gouge my eyes out.

Which would make the bigger difference with vidya?
7700hq (4core/8thread 2.8ghz) with a 5400rpm HDD
or
7300hq (4core/4thread 2.5ghz) with a 7200rpm HDD
?

going for a 1050, an SSD for the OS, & 8gb ram as well.

>>61878064
either a core 2 quad Q9400 if you need 4 cores, or a A6-6400K if you don't.

>>61878183
Thanks.

>>61876220
What is going to stop intel from pulling the same illegal business practices as last time? Like paying companies such as dell a significant amount of money to sell a small percentage of amd processor? Or hell, not to sell amd processors all together?

Userbenchmark says that the i5 7600k is better than the r7 1600 while costing less (at least in italy). Is that true?

Also should i upgrade now or wait for new releases? I'm using an i5 3570k.

Hey, need some assistance with fans. I'd like to lighten up my case alittle with led fans. In front i would like to use Corsair hd120s or similiar but hd120's dont have SP version for radiators. Basicly my question is, is there a set fans that both have bot version SP and AF and can lightning can be controlled over a controller

>>61878464
I think AMD shit relies heavily on OC'ing to be competitive atm.
And last I heard, so long as it's got that, it's slightly better than intel's alternative.

Is that what you were looking at?

>>61878589
Probably.

Well i don't want to OC since day one, so i guess i'll wait for newer models

poorfag complete build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWjZYr
vs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWjZYr
vs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/twpHyf

All I should need is a hdmi cable and a win 10 key to run out of the box right?

>>61878464
User benchmarks is pretty shit, and relies on simple retarded synthetic numbers.

The i5 has better single core but the R5 1600 blows it out of the water in multicore.

As far as pricing goes, in most of the world the i5 is at an irrelevant price point, but make sure you are not confusing an R5 and an R7.

>>61878795
You can run win10 with no key for as long as you want (full drivers, games, etc), but you get a watermark in the lower right and can't change desktop backgrounds.

>>61878795
>>61878817
The ryzen based builds have a better upgrade path. Switch to 2*4GB unless you plan on picking up another 8GB soon.

>>61878795
>win10
Don't do this

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>oc to 3.6ghz
>set ram to profile xmp-2

help

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>>61879066
before and after

>>61879066
>>61879080
Return everything to how it was

I want to get a ryzen cpu but my only problem is that it's PGA and my hands shake so much specially when dealing with small fragile expensive stuff.
How fragile are the pins on the cpu? I'd appreciate an example.

>>61876220
I'm planning on putting my PC on a surge protector I currently own. I assume it will run about 300W or above (if I overclock).

I don't have many outlets in my room, they are all spread out. Will connecting my build to the surge protector, connected to the outlet cause any hazard? Should it be placed on a separate outlet?

Here is the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sxP6HN

Here is the current surge protector I currently own: http://www.homedepot.com/p/6-Outlet-Wall-Mount-Surge-Protector-YLCT-30/203353681

>>61879185
They're pretty stiff, but if you want to play it safe you can quickly place it on the socket, and nudge it till it drops in the holes.

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>>61879122
i don't even understand what the fuck

>>61879288
>Ryzen 6 core going faster than an X79 6 core
I know Sandy bridge E is old as fuck but compared to piledriver that's fucking cool.

So it's been a while since I looked at consumer hardware. Why is every guide recommending amd now? Seems like just 6-12 months ago, Intel processors dominated the market.

>>61878795
I would reccomend displayport for monitors that can use it.
Also get 1x8 if you plan to buy another of the same type, 2x4 if you don't.

>>61879322
AMD's new RYZEN stuff doesn't have sub core 2 duo performance, so AMD rigs are viable for gaming.

>>61879322
Ryzen is good for its prices.
AMD made a pretty strong comeback.

>>61876607
Get whatever you need for a gaming PC, and a second computer to run the stream. Otherwise, 8 cores at least.

>>61879322
AMD shrunk from 32nm to 14nm and shoved a bunch of cores that are properly soldered to the IHS

Suddenly intel has real competition

Ryzen 1600x vs i7 6700/7700, how well does it stack up for games? Are we talking equal performance, barely edges out, or does about 3/4 as much but dat price makes it worth it? I'm buying AMD over Intel regardless, just wanna know what I'm getting myself into.

>>61879468
7700 is still better for pure MUH GAMES, but this could change, especially for shitty console ports, as both consoles have 6 core shit in them, so maybe we will get better multi-threading soon.

AM4 socket is good until 2020 as well so who knows what zen2 will bring. Meanwhile, coffee lake is not compatible with z200 series that the 7700 is on.

The 6700 seems rather irrelevant.

I have a 670 FTW, an i5 4440 and 8gb of ddr3 which one these need an upgrade the most?

>>61879517
I'd say the 670.
If you don't mind buying used an old 300 series Radeon or 900 series GTX card will do you some good.

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Rate my gayming/workstation build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VK8Yjc
I put a gtx 960 because it's the cheapest graphics card i found and all mid range cards are overpriced or out of stock.
When will graphics cards go back to their normal price?
Also should i get a SATA SSD or NVME M.2 SSD. Nvme rated speed is 2000mb while sata ssd is 500mb how true is this?

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Poorfag here. My power supply died.

Part picker lists my draw at 218.
I have an older hp psu rated at 220.
How stupid would I be to try to run it or should I just suffer until I can replace it?

>>61879597
Wouldn't recommend stressing that oem psu, get a large cheapshit psu like a 750w CX or EVGA N1 750w and be comfy.

>>61879559
Good build, though the PSU could be a bit overkill.
I would recommend maybe a 1060 but if you can get a 960 for $50 that's good.
As for SSDs, you should research that and see if it benefits your use case.
>>61879597
Don't fucking run that. Risk/reward is way too high considering PSUs aren't terribly expensive.

>>61879604
>>61879618
>>61879618
Roger that.

>saw a new, lovely gtx 750ti for just 70€
>until i checked some review about it, it was already sold out
:(

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>>61879597
no

any news on raven ridge? when's the next APU (i think current gen? idk) coming out?

>>61879185
You should be fine. Mount it the way you're supposed to (just let it fall in parallel to the ground). It's meant to be pretty easy.

Fucking computers all so overpriced

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>>61877888
>Through SATA
This hurts

>>61879727
Complain about literally anything.
Things have to be overpriced to make profits.

>>61879754
They're really not even these days, I consider my 8350 rig for $523 badass and it's not like back in the day where shit went obsolete real fast.

>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM
Stop spouting this bullshit.

>>61879789
>Is it absolutely essential?
No.
>Does it increases performance quite a bit?
Yes.

>>61879789
they do you retard

>>61876220
Is there a recommended system for doing GPU Passthrough?

>>61879789
sitting pretty on my 2933MHz in dual channel

where you at?

How fucked am I if I want to build a computer with a CPU that doesn't have ME/PSP in it?

>>61879912
>>61879913
>>61880102

>>61879080

>>61880267
Must have fucked something up.
Mine works fine.

>>61879597
>trying to run at max
Good fucking luck
>>61879618
>cheapshit
Just so long as it's not korean house-fire-bait

Vega NDA lifts soon.
Get ready for this thread to turn into ground 0

>>61880489
in 24 hours? or is it today?

>>61880564
14 August no idea what timezone

>>61880584
2017-08-14T13:00:00Z

>>61880594
/g/ will be a shitfest then

>>61880613
As will every board on the internet

Do you guys recommend the Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB as first SSD? My hard drive is getting kinda slow.

>>61880679
Did you put thermal paste on your drive

>>61876574
Why would you pair a 1600 with a 1050 Ti? You should either upgrade the GPU or downgrade the CPU

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No Itx ryzen?

>>61876220
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/FTsLQV (-case)

My current system that I'm running for about 5 years from a boutique builder, only upgrade over the years was the gtx 970. Should I further "just upgrade" or should I pursue building one from scratch?

CPU is oc just as the 970.

>>61880936
Upgrading is not worth it build a new one from scratch.
You can save some money if you use the cpu cooler you already have, the hdd and the graphics card since it's more than good for 1080p gaming

>>61880936
This build is still fine unless you want to play the latest and great AAA games.

>>61880920
There are several boards available but I would avoid the Gigabyte ones because the layout is awkward and cable management will be awful.

>>61879468
The 7700k has basically no advantage over a 1600(x) unless you're targeting 100fps+, and even then it's not a huge difference.

>>61880936
Depends, if you're just gaming then you're probably ok for a while or at least wait until Coffee Lake/Zen+.

>>61879935
As in, distro? Or guide?

>>61881028
>>61881052
okay let's say I want to stick with this setup, how long can I extend this system?
Yeah sure, in some time I want to be able to play the latest AAA games too. don't need to be 4k ultra high or sth.

>>61881064
>at least wait until Coffee Lake/Zen+.
Any news on when that comes out? 2018?

>>61881076
Start saving and then when the GPU prices finally drop low enough. Get a completely new system.

>>61881076
>Any news on when that comes out? 2018?
Coffee Lake in a couple weeks, Zen2 in second half of 2018.

>>61881108
>>61881124
Alright then, gpu prices are still high due to miners right?

>>61881161
>Alright then, gpu prices are still high due to miners right?
Yes. Vega will likely make mining with Polaris less profitable, so the prices of mid-range GPUs will likely come down some even if they don't normalize.

>>61881124
Zen2 should be good to focus for. Zen is a great start but wait for the tools and everything to mature round it.

>>61881183
We will know tomorrow

what thermal paste do I get? I heard arctic silver doesn't come off so if I apply it wrong am I fucked? also, give me all your thermal paste applying tips

>>61881214
>We will know tomorrow
what is tomorrow?

>>61881297
RX Vega reviews

>>61881314
oh I see

Currently have a 280x that I was going to use in my new r5 1600 build while waiting for gpu prices to drop, but is a 1050ti worth it?

Why is Ryzen so picky about RAM?

>>61881291
Arctic Silver DOES come off, and it's fabulous stuff, you can't go wrong with it
Just make sure you don't buy thermal ADHESIVE, that shit actually won't ever come off

>>61881328
The memory controller is integrated into the SoC instead of the mobo chipset and Ryzen's sub-memory timings are very tightly tuned.

>>61881323
280x to 1050ti isn't that much of an upgrade desu. if you're on 1080p i'd just wait.

>>61880920
iTX is meme shit

>>61879789
Infinity Fabric runs at the frequency of your RAM, fool

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>>61876220
Someone please halp

I'm looking at the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 Mini ITX OC 3GB atm as oppose to the dual fan because its $40 cheaper.

they have the same speeds but i don't undder stand this,

>3GB 192-Bit GDDR5
>Core Clock 1556 MHz in OC Mode
>1531 MHz in Gaming Mode
>Boost Clock 1771 MHz in OC Mode
>1746 MHz in Gaming Mode
>8008mhz memory clock

what the fuck is gaming mode? do i have to turn that on myself?

also, i'm returning my EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING 4GB, which specs are

>4GB 128-Bit GDDR5
>Core Clock 1354 MHz
>Boost Clock 1468 MHz
>7010mhz memory clock

think the 1060 will be better than it?

>>61876574
You know you can make the general yourself right

Also other anons are right go for an Rx 580 or or 1060 6gb

>>61881615
1060 (3 GB) is barely better than your 1050 Ti, might as well just keep that

>>61881629
the only thing that's driving me nuts is that i feel that if i switch to the 1060 3gb i won't drop under 60fps on high/ultra, right now in most games i'll drop to the low 40's.

forgot to mention that i'm running an fx 6300 at 3.5ghz, i'll be upgrading to an i5 6600k with new mobo and ram around october. in that case, should i still stick with the 1050 ti sc?

>>61876574

Upgrade that GPU anon. Save your shekels for a while and buy a watercooled Vega when you can.

Do I really need more than 8 threads for modern gayming?

>>61880859
Yes, the whole tube

>>61881674
Your CPU is definitely the bottleneck right now, upgrade that instead, then think about a GPU upgrade afterwards

>>61881713
Most games don't even need that many

>>61881732
So, R3 1200 and slap the most powerful card I can buy?

>>61876906

The interesting part of that video is showing the framedrops the i5's - notably the 6500 - have compared to the 1600.

>>61881732
>>61881745
Even 7600k gets shitty minimums in many games, a quadcore with SMT is really what you should be aiming for. More than that doesn't do much good.

>>61881745
1300X

Finally saved up enough cash.First time ever making a build btw. Just wanted yalls opinion or what should I change. Budget was $1900

>>61881774
Whoops forgot link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FHMvJV

>>61881766
1400 then?
>>61881772
1200 is easily overclockable.

>>61881785
shit monitor. get ViewSonic XG2401 instead

>>61881069
Hardware. Intel vs AMD, which processor, Motherboard etc.

Annoyingly my system should support it, but ASUS fucked the BIOS up.

>>61881785
looks good my man. make sure those ram sticks are in your motherboard's qvl.

the 1080 ti gaming x is the best gpu i've ever owned.

>>61881745
>>61881713
In some games 8 threads do even out the framepacing, which means that the gameplay feels smoother due to less stuttering. But it's not strictly nesseccary.

I woudnt pair 1200 with gtx 1070/1080 but for everything else it's decent enough. 1300x has fairly high base clock speeds though, so if you're not keen on overclocking it's well worth the extra price. Also some people have discovered that 1200 doesnt overclock as well, you're limited at 3,8-3,9 GHz.YMMW

>>61881785

You need to check that you get an AM4 compatible cooler. IIRC Noctua offer an upgrade kit for most of their coolers (and sell some explicitly with the AM4 bracket in the box).

This is a more general question but I was checking out on newegg and after I thought I finished order, I was redirected to something called Verify by Visa. Is newegg a dodgy site?

>>61881856
No.

>>61876220
I like this OP

>>61881856
Lolwhat. Verified by Visa is the online verification system used by Visa cards.

>>61881804
Any difference? I'll check it out
>>61881820
Will do anon
>>61881832
So have to find a compatible cooler?

>>61881788
It's a mere $20 difference, the lowest jump to a comparable X model
And it still comes with a cooler, easily worth it

>>61881885

>So have to find a compatible cooler?

http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit

Unless otherwise stated the D15 doesn't support AM4 out of the box (hence why they have a specific AM4 model).

>tfw completely new to all this

Any /g/ approved gaming build for around £900?

>>61881946
Ryzen 3 1300X/B350 Mobo/GTX 1050Ti
Boom, done

>>61881946

Ryzen 5, 16gb 3200mhz ram, ssd, 1tb HDD, define R5, any decent single tower cooler, 580/1060 for gpu, good 600w psu.

>>61881956

Thats not a £900 build.

>>61881913
Ahhh i see. yeah I got the notification "may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit this motherboard" guess have to buy that as well thanks anon

>>61881992

If you read the link Noctua provide them for free if you provide proof of purchase.

>>61882004
Yeah i barely read it. Well guess I'll get to it then

Which one should i get for gaming

Acer XG270HU or Acer X34

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>>61882085

How bad will the bottleneck be if I try to stick one of the latest graphics card on a 7-year-old mobo alongside a cpu of that era?

>>61882173
bad

>>61882173
Horribly bottlenecked
You need a new CPU/mobo

>>61882190
but I'm scared of ME

>>61882173
It's Ryzen time, brah

>>61882085
XB271HU

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Is it worth getting a 1700x/1800x, or get a 1700 + watercooler & OC'ing it?

>>61882275
>watercooling

>>61882275
1700x is only a few bucks more, but I don't know how much higher binned than 1700 they are.

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Anybody here got a Silent Base 800?
How is it? Thinking of buying one

>>61882275
The 1800x and 1700x are better binned, so you're more likely to get to 4.0 or 4.1 to them with decent voltages. If you want best value, they're not worth it. If you're willing to spend extra cash for marginal improvements(and were going to get an aftermarket cooler anyway), they can be.

>>61882354
Get the solid colored one.

>>61882374
you mean without a side panel window? why?

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>>61882393
No

>>61882304
>

>>61882433
Ohhh, the black-on-black one
They're currently all the same price, so if any one of them goes on sale, I'll probably just get that one
But I like the orange-accented one best

>>61881966
Thanks breh, how's this look?

>>61882525
>>61881966
forgot link
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVWtGf

>>61882540

1) If you don't want to be fucking with hand tuning your RAM make sure its on the motherboard QVL

2) Check if the cpu cooler fits the AM4 socket.

>>61882540
You don't need a custom CPU cooler. Just use the one the 1600 comes with unless you are doing some serious overclocking.

>>61882540
what other anons said + if you want quieter hdd you can pick toshiba p300 1tb

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>>61882654
>Toshiba HDDs

I dug up a couple motherboards:
Asus M4A88TD-M Evo
Asus M4A79XTD Evo

Can I make a serviceable build with either of these or are they just junk?

>>61882677
stop shitposting if you don't have any arguments. there's literally nothing wrong with toshiba or seagate.

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New part list. Any problems?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8NyggL

>>61882627
So a CPU cooler is included in the CPU I chose? I don't plan on overclocking atm so I really don't need to buy my own?

>>61882616
Thanks. I updated ram to one on the am4 compatibility so it's a corsair one now. Also added a new noctua cooler but it might not be needed according to other anon

>>61882654
Thanks. Looked into it but I can't source one in UK unfortunately.

>>61882883
Yes. The 1600 comes with a stock cooler. If you don't plan on overclocking, it will suffice 100%.

My old 6870 finally died today, and now I need to get a new GPU.
I really want to get a 580, but I am not sure which manufacturer I should get. I read that the Aorus comes with a quiet and stable cooler and is overclocked out of the box. The other good option would be a Sapphire Nitro.
So, what are you guys opinion on this? Could you guys recommend me a 580 to buy?

>>61883400
If you find any 580 in stock. Buy that regardless of brand. Any brand will do.

Thinking of buying a new workstation for Solidworks here are the specs:
i7 7700K (4,2 GHz)
MSI Z270 SLI PLUS
Corsair DDR4 Vengance 2x16GB
Corsair H100i
Fractal Define C
PNY Quadro M4000
What do you think guys?

>>61882883
Drop the cooler and use the money to get a bigger SSD

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Anyone else sad that the value of the hardware is about to be cut in half over the next 5 months?

>i5 6600k
Took a huge hit when ryzen launched. Will be selling for pennies after cfl-s.
>980ti
Still hitting 21,500 in fire strike which is = to a 1080 and gpu shortage is keeping resale prices decent but the second consumer "volta" hits it's a $100 piece of shit.
>z170
useless dead shit trash
>ddr4 3733 cl17
still valuable i guess, worth more than my cpu anyway.

Need to sell for vega 56, 64, 1080ti and 8700k AS SOON AS FUCKING POSSIBLE. Can't do it until early October and I'm shaking in my boots.
>friendly reminder that if you stay on top of the market and time selling your old parts well you can have top of the line performance forever on the cheap

>>61883400
more than one fan on a GPU is a good card for me.

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>>61876220
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7rHzD8
new build coming, what do you think?

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I wish Nvidia would hurry up and release Volta or at least announce more details. I keep getting the feeling the 10 series has been out too long to justify splashing out. It's like this every time it's time to upgrade.

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>>61877800

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3nJqZ8

gaming/light video editing build

using 4TB HDD from my current build with this. Chose MB for bluetooth capabilities rather than wasting a slot for it, if this is stupid let me know. Never fucked with liquid cooling, is the one I have selected sufficient for the build? is it hard to install? will I need to cover the case in fans regardless? also some suggestions for a case please.

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How do you guys feel out the kraken series? the pump on my x52 died last month after 2 months. sent it back to nzxt 2 weeks ago and it should have arrived by now but i haven't found anything from them sending me my replacement. should i just give up on it? i've been waiting awhile now and im honestly temped to just buy a different cooler, because now im seeing alot of reviews claiming that their pumps have died under 6 months.

legit starting to think this product is shit.

Should I just give up on my small form factor meme and go with ATX board? There doesn't seem to be any high end mATX boards.

>>61884050
investing in a dead socket is dumb. coffee lake is a week away, worth waiting imo. also what stuttering issues? wasn't the only case in like gta 5?
>Ryzen isn't an option for me as I play a lot of CSGO
yeah because that 300 vs 330fps really makes a difference

Retard here, is there any reason I shouldn't use an enterprise/NAS/whatever this stuff means hard drive in my desktop if I desire incredibly high capacity on a single drive? Looking at these 10TBs WD Red Pros and I think I want one.

>>61883856
3GB 1060s are barely better then 1050TIs. You kinda fucked up there but the rest looks good.

>>61877800
>2.5 tb of SD card storage
>projector instead of a screen

Kek

>>61884214
i dont think $60 is worth for the 6gb version

>>61884111
I use the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 at the moment. I'll have to leave out 2 of the fans though, because it's too bulky to fit in the top of my case without leaving the top cover off.

>>61884156
investing in a dead socket is dumb
I hear this a lot, can you explain why? I'm not really sure what you are losing by using an older socket. From my perspective anything Ivy Bridge or later has all I need, i.e. SATA3 and PCIe 3, plus Windows 7 support. A 4960X + motherboard will presumably be quite a bit cheaper than a 8700K + motheboard, and will allow me to use my current RAM too.

>also what stuttering issues? wasn't the only case in like gta 5?
It happens in a lot of games, I always noticed it on my i5 too, I thought it was just a directx thing but it turns out it's the CPU shitting the bed for a split second, seems 6+ cores fixes it because a 4960X or 5960X has much better minimums in gaming benchmarks than a 7700K.

>yeah because that 300 vs 330fps really makes a difference
pic related, a 40%+ drop in minimums is kind of a big deal, 110FPS in CSGO is unacceptable.

>>61884310
enjoy you're comp overheating

>>61884214
>3GB 1060s are barely better then 1050TIs

the 1060 3gb is way faster than the 1050 ti.

Is anything from this salvageable/usable/worth keeping if I want to play recent video games?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wwJyCy
Thsi is my PSU, couldn't find it on the part picker http://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Nox/Nox_Urano_600W/822
Technically that's not the motherboard I have either, but it's close enough. Actual mobo is M4A79XTD

storage is a non-issue.

>>61884363
7700k still has hyperthreading so it shouldn't stutter as much as i5 do with 4c/4t.
if you care about cs so much you should have fps config anyway and even with ryzen you wouldn't ever drop under 200fps.

Is this an acceptable Mobo, for a 1600 & 1080 gti

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1205_1505&item_id=104706 for a 1600 & 1080 gti

>dutch vendor doesn't know when vega 56 will be available
>tfw shit's gonna be snatched up by cryptoniggers

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>>61884368
It has more than enough cooling power with 2 fans. 4 fans is just their way of saying "fuck you" to the other AIOs.

Currently got a 1TB Samsung 840 EVO SSD. Is there any reason I shouldn't pick up another one used and run those badboys in RAID0?

>>61884845
it could have cp on it

>>61884845
New one might spread Bit rot to your old one.

Tfw no asus vega 56

>>61884845
Do you have a hardware RAID controller? If you're doing RAID0 at the OS, you're probably gonna be sad. Either way, have backups. RAID0 doubles your likelihood of data loss.

>>61884845
> RAID0
> SSD
Transfer speeds will be higher, but latency will also be higher. Use it for a fast file storage, not as a system drive.

>>61884993
I'm on a Z77 board so I don't think so.

I don't really care about storage loss too much as I always store everything important in USB drives, the system is only used for gaymen.

Would it just be better to sell my current SSD and buy a 2TB one?

Is the 1080 worth it now?
I want to impulse buy but I get the feeling I'm going to regret it in 6 months time

>>61885042
> Would it just be better to sell my current SSD and buy a 2TB one?
Set up a dynamic array in Windows: JBOD visible as a single disk.
Or use joint links to distribute your games library across several disks without breaking anything.

What do you you guys do with your old PCs and parts? I feel they aren't valuable enough to sell anymore. Just trash them or is there some decent place to donate?

>>61885088
Semi on the same boat, but I figured the new RX Vega cards won't be able to be purchased in store before December anyway here (nonref, obv, also stores here don't do MSRP preorders like you can do in USA and just wait it out). Due to this I feel like buying a cheap 1080 and then reselling it if and when RX Vega / Volta are worth it is a good idea.

>>61885107
Keep them as collector's item. Maybe in 50 years they'll be valuable.

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could probably save money by getting a cheaper case but I'm quite keen on this one. still working out some things but hope to place an order by the beginning of next month

>>61885100
Will this impact me using a dual-boot OS setup at all?

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> still haven't overclocked my 4770k

no motivation and no reason so far

>>61885191
> dual-boot OS setup
Well, you can't boot to Windows from dynamic disks and you hardly will be able to follow joint links on Linux, but it should be OK on Windows.

>>61884503
pls respond

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>>61885236
I'm not sure what you mean, I'm a dumbder.

If I'm dual-booting Win7 and Win10 am I all good, or screwed?

>>61884503
If you're building a system with used parts and are going with a platform old enough to support DDR3, if you're feeling risky you might try and combine your current RAM with other DIMMs to reach the 16GB you'll need. Otherwise, just throw it all in the bin.

>>61885296
> am I all good, or screwed?
Depends on what you will do. Again, you can't place Windows on a dynamic disks, but both Windows 10 and WIndows 7 will work with joint links, so you may want to use joint links to add an additional drive as a folder in your first drive.

>>61885205
same here

>>61885344
Even the PSU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzmkM8

Finally finished my build. It's a pure gaming machine aside from web browsing. Might do some streaming for fun but otherwise nothing intensive. A new monitor will be purchased in the next month or so, but I'm still really happy with it.

i've got a i7 7700k what cooler should i get

>>61885455
Are you going to overclock?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bKz6HN

Is this ok?

I'm UK. Want to spend about £800 and don't care for looks. Take the wifi off the price, that's extra, plus there's currently fluctuation with the mobo and other stuff, so it's around £800.

Any improvements for around that price anyone can suggest? or am I good to go?

>>61885463
i didn't overclock it with my last cooler so probably not

>>61884302
The 1050TI beats the 1060 3GB in some gamed.

You bought a shit card.

>>61885474
Oh look it's this build again

>>61885580

I made some changes and was checking it was ok. I don't know what I'm doing.

What OS do people recommend for gaming? Does it have to be windows 10 now?

>>61885656
Looks fine. I don't know why some other jackass is memeing you.

>>61885493
Why get a k then? If you won't overclock get a 212 Evo or something

>>61885737
a friend helped me pick the parts out, because i didn't know jack shit. guess he thought i was going to overclock it.

>>61885708
Thanks.
I checked the QVL for the mobo and can't find the RAM I'd want anywhere, but do find similar Corsair ones so hoping it'll be ok. But at 3200mhz it says DOCP3200 when using Ryzen. Anyone know what that means?

>>61885737
>>61885816
i want to add that it not like i can't overclock, or at least i think. if the cpu is meant to overclock then i guess i should overclock.

would the NH-D15 be good?

OverclockersUK have a sale on GTXs,
I'm looking to buy a 1060 6gb

There's
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-mini-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-106-zt.html
and
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1060-compact-x1-6144mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-06b-in.html

Can save a bit of money, but is Inno3D garbage? OR doesn't it matter?

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Will a corsair air 540 support a 280mm radiator?

>>61885474
It's good. Just get a Non Mini version of the1060 if you can, for better cooling

>>61881291

About
This$
Much

Only blob shaped.
https://youtu.be/-hNgFNH7zhQ

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Are there any FX-8350 fags who can tell me how fast one can OC on stock volts? I'd be happy with 4.2GHz turbo speed locked, a 5% boost is a boost.

>>61886424
I'll try to, but the cost difference is frustrating for a damn fan.
Will I be ok with the mini if I don't plan on OCing for anything?

>>61885107
Save them so can downgrade to a working system until the new parts arrive when something breaks.

>>61886560
Yeah, just higher average temps, but it's no big deal, your pc is looking great. Enjoy.

>>61886545
4.2Ghz is ltierally the stock boost, it shuld go this high at stock bios settings, mine did with a really shitty gigabyte motherboard.

>>61886691
Yeah I should expect higher from a 990FX board, my Dell Optiplex overclocked by 300mhz before crashing and that thing's shit.

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>>61876220
>Vega
>Above 1080ti

>>61886545
My 8350 would do 4.4 at stock, or I could undervolt it down to around 1.19 at 4.0

>>61886798
That's fucking sick, I may crank up the bus until it crashes or save heat by working the voltage back at 5.0 till it crashes, good stuff, never had a standard atx system before.

>>61886820
>5.0
4.0**

>>61886820
Depending on your board you'll have better luck with the bus. There are certain values that work better, like my system just was kit stable at 230, but rock solid at 264 or 290. You'll want to bump vdda voltage a bit though, and keep cpu+NB voltage at around 1.28 max, that will help stabilize higher bus speeds. Obviously adjust ht and NB speeds down, try to keep them around 2400ish and keep them at the same speed, don't go above 1.28 for ht or nb voltage though

>>61886372
That case is so big you could fit a full sized air conditioner in there.

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>>61886893
I'm building with the MSI 990FXA GAMING, which delivers clean enough power to run a 9590 at 4.7, would've liked to have a based 990FXA-UD3 rev 4 or 5, but whatever.

It'll be cooler than what I've got now, and the rest of the system such as the case, psu and everything else is going as I planned.

>>61886297
Anyone provide any input? Thanks.

>>61877800
I'm so confus after this anon.

>>61884267
Would that thing even function properly?

How/where do you learn about building PC's? I have no clue

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Any tips on a pricy and fancy case that isn't a poor QC ripoff or tempered glass shit?

>>61887206
Define properly.
It would be slow as fuck, more expensive than an equivalent HDD and if it's a RAID0, have fun troubleshooting when one of the cards shits the bed.

What's a decent nvme m.2 ssd that's not terribly expensive?

>>61886944
Single slot GPU is unbearably attractive, I wish to stroke it like a soft kitten.

>>61887539
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#p=0&s=0&t=4

Are any of the AMD cards a decent alternative to the new GTX cards?

I was thinking of dropping maybe €800 on a new build and dropping 500 just on the gpu would severely limit the rest of it.

>>61887566
I've heard good things about the p600 series.

>>61887994
Tomorrow we'll know how good these vega cards from amd are. Vega 56 competes with the 1070 and the other vega with the 1080. With a 800€ budget I wouldn't go higher than a 1070 or vega 56 imo.

>>61887501
https://youtu.be/VhdV2wv3jQs

Will we see any price changes for anything this week with new releases?

>>61888087
>step 1: have all your parts
How do I know which parts are appropriate for me or good/bad?

>1060 expensive as fuck
>rx580 STILL not in fucking stock yet

(((cant wake up)))

>>61888149
> 1060 - 380eurobucks
> 1070 - 480eurobucks
> 1080 - 600eurobucks

WAKE ME UP

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>>61888215
>1080 Ti - 900 euros

>>61887566
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-250-084

>>61888080
I see the 1070s at around the €500 euro range, which is about double what I was hoping to spend on the GPU. Are the vega cards gonna be similarly priced?

If I'm going with Windows 10, then what's the best way to get it?
But cheap code online?
Upgrade with assistive technology from Windows 7 or something?

Graphic card isn't working right, considering going from gtx 760 to gtx 1050 ti because it's cheap.

However my motherboard is an Foxconn 2ADA 1.0
it's old and can't find anywhere if it will be compatible.
>this model doesn't exist on the Manufacturer site

Anywhere i can find this information ?

>>61888456
Just don't.

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I want to build a system for rendering what's the cheapest option? I want the cheapest and what monitor shoud I buy also the cheapest please

I have a Nikon D5500

>>61888505
http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-2ada-foxconn/

>>61888444
hard to say since we are at the mercy of the miners fucks. vega 56 should be 400ish but how knows what will happen. And if you wanted to spent 250€ on the card that's the price sector most fucked up by the mining crisis.

>>61888526
What do I go for then if I want easy gaming, video editing and photoshop?

>>61888559
Just stick with 7 or 8.1 at most. 10 is just cancer.

I have to use 10 at work and every fucking day I take every excuse I can to get off the computer, which is hard when you're a programmer.

>>61888594
>I don't like it so nobody can!

>>61888644
It is objectively bad.

Name one reason to use win10 over 8.1.

>>61888653
>Objectively (insert subjective adjective)
8.1 was subjectively shit, anyway.

>>61888594

What about for windows 10 games?

>>61888749
Fuck are you on about

>>61888843
The xbone games that are also released for windows 10.

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When is zen 2?
Is it going to be based on the 10nm microarchitecture?
How much improvements?
Should i wait?

>>61888902
They're all shit. If you must play them spin up a VM whenever you want to be disappointed.

>bitcoin spiked to over $4k

Guess it's a really bad time to consider an upgrade, eh

>>61888962
Late 2018
7nm IBM black magic
We don't know, but the expectations are pretty high given that Zen is first gen and there are probably plenty of improvements to be made
If you don't actually NEED a new computer within the next year or so... probably?

How big is the difference between, for example, an Asus 1050ti and a gigabyte 1050ti? Does it even matter?

Also, how does a 3GB 1060 compare to a 4GB 1050ti? Worth €80?

Can I render 4k videos with a ryzen 1400.?

And a gtx 1050ti

Well now I have no clue what OS to use for my new build...

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Looking fora good lga1151 board for my 7700k that's coming.

Suggestions?

>>61889016
Are prices going to go up more? Any chance of decreases due to new releases?

>>61888550
thanks !

>>61889112
Gaming? windows 7/8.1

Gaming but have no standards and already sold your privacy? win10.

Not gaming or only interested in a few specific games? pick a linux distro.

>>61889113
Return the cpu.

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>>61889232
got it for less than 200, no.

>>61889190
>Any chance of decreases due to new releases?
If Vega gaming cards can actually mine 70MH/s(or even more) as rumored, it should certainly ease the demand on polaris cards.

>>61889248
Maybe sell it for an Intel fanboy for much more.

>>61889221
Plenty of gaming, so I guess 8.1. Can always do an upgrade if I ever get desperate for some garbage.

What case should I get for this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

GPU options pending news on the vegas. Probably gonna roll a 1050Ti or 1060.

>>61889221
Didn't Jewsoft block Ryzen on everything except W10?

>>61889443
wrong link dipshit
copy the permalink

>>61889659
fuck I'm retarded
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gM74bj

>>61889533
Kinda

>>61889533
I see a few sources claiming microsoft dropped support, but that doesn't mean the processors don't work.
Anecdotal evidence from around the internet seems to indicate it might be a bitch to run on win7, but win8.1 doesn't complain.

>>61889533
Oh damn, so if I go Ryzen then I have to get Windows 10?

>>61889714
If you go any newer Intel gen, you have to go win10 as well. Unless you have a brain and force 7/8.1 on it.

>>61889785

Looks like I'm stuck with Windows 10 then, I could fuck around with it, but I'm lazy.
Plus living in the UK means that I don't have any privacy anyway, so it doesn't matter too much.

>>61889714
http://windowsreport.com/windows-7-8-1-updates-blocked-amd-ryzen-kaby-lake/
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/248069-unofficial-patch-unblocks-windows-7-8-1-updates-kaby-lake-ryzen

make of that what you will.

If you really can't get enough cock in your mouth, go ahead and grab win10. Otherwise resist the jews.

I'm having trouble deciding what to get with the vega 56 lads
>get 27" 4K monitor and play indieshit/non-demanding games/very well optimized games in 4K and other shit interpolated to 1440p for €450
>Get 34" 3440x1440 monitor for €550

Just got the 7300 version of this & a 250gb SSD swap for the optical drive, did I do good for 800$?
(already have a PC)
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-HP-Pavilion-17-i7-7700HQ-GTX-1050-Laptop.200756.0.html

>>61889833
Thanks, I'll have to look into it. Having to get W10 is the main reason I've been reluctant to upgrade my 3570k system.